Re: [Tex-music] xdvi crashes while searching in musixdoc.dvi
Dirk Laurie dirk.lau...@gmail.com wrote:
2015-02-17 5:22 GMT+02:00 Bob Tennent r...@cs.queensu.ca:
P.S. Who wrote I hate LaTeX in a comment in musixdoc.tex? :+)
This has been in there as long as I have been using MusiXTeX [1] and
I cannot imagine that anyone other than Daniel Taupin wrote it. The comment
expresses understandable exasperation at the verbosity of LaTeX.
\renewcommand{\arraystretch}{1.5}% I hate LaTeX
The line can be shortened to
\def\arraystretch{1.5}
at the expense of offending one of the design goals of LaTeX.
and/or comprehension by someone who's not used plain tex...
[1] If you must know how long that is, read the Acknowledgments section
of the M-Tx manual.
But that is not what this post is about. I built musixdoc.pdf via
latex - dvips - ps2pdf (using out-of-the-box TeX Live 2013/Debian
on Ubuntu 14.04). Everything went through, and I could view the
file in evince. But when I tried viewing the dvi file something strange
happened.
If you search for a string using Ctrl-F, and the string cannot be
found, xdvi crashes.
xdvi.bin: Fatal error: currinf.set_char_p is not a registered routine!
This does not happen with non-music TeX documents, but it also
happens with mtxdoc.dvi. In fact, on mtxdoc.dvi it happens on
any string search whatsoever, whether it is found or not.
it probably happens with _any_ document containing fonts that xdvi
doesn't know about. xdvi needs an encoding to back-translate what's
in the dvi file (which is in font encoding -- possibly some virtual font
encoding, in which case xdvi knows how to generate the real character.
The problem may be related to the fact that the music fonts are
unusual. Many messages like the following appear:
xdvi.bin: Warning: guess_encoding(): nothing suitable for xsld20,
assuming Cork encoding.
those messages are the proximate indication of the problem that causes
the crash. (if i'm right.)
indeed. however, xdvi shouldn't crash. the problem should be reported
to the texlive mailing list (who are i think are the de facto
maintainers of xdvi). the submission should contain sources that run
with current tex live (2014).
robin
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Re: [Tex-music] musixps issues
Don Simons dsim...@roadrunner.com wrote: Oops...the hidden .tex files were in doc\generic\musixtex\addons. -Original Message- From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of Don Simons Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 5:22 PM To: 'Werner Icking Music Archive' Subject: Re: [Tex-music] musixps issues I just successfully created musixdoc.pdf from musixdoc.tex, version 1.15 dated April 2011. On the initial latex pass, tex failed to find curly.tex and tuplet.tex. I'm using MiKTeX 2.9 and I think I got musixtex through that. I seem to remember some recent mention about some .tex components getting put in strange places in the distribution and sure enough I found both curly.tex and tuplet.tex in the MiKTeX folder doc\generic\musixtex, which was not in my MiKTeX path. Once I fixed that (rather annoying!) problem, it was smooth sailing, with the following manual steps, as listed in the document itself: doc\generic\musixtex is the _proper_ (for some value of ...) place in the TDS (tex directory structure) for code involved in the (re-) generation of documentation. so it's no surprise that the source files for the package are there. however, are they really never used in running musixtex in the ordinary course of events (i've never used either, but it's an age since i used musixtex). if they are common things in run-of-the mill use of musixtex, they should be in tex/generic/musixtex/ along with musixtex.tex itself. (tex live doesn't have it there ... at least not my tl'13 ... i really must update!) i presume no-one has told the distribution generators, if that's the case; they won't necessarily guess where a file with such a left-field name as curly.tex should go. afaik, there's no-one in the distribution teams is a musixtex user. robin the ex-musixtex user --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [Tex-music] Funny article about Word vs. LaTeX
Dirk Laurie dirk.lau...@gmail.com wrote: [...] As far as music typesetting goes, the following sentence seems relevant to us: LaTeX users, however, more often report enjoying using their respective software. Because it is there … istm that music typesetting is in a different league to text typesetting; not least because the users of the typeset output aren't used to being given printed material that's typeset in a crappy way. my wife, when we married, had been using sibelius for several years, and at that time (15 years ago) i couldn't produce anything from musixtex to match sibelius' output. back then i was working for a living, and major undertakings, like typesetting multi-part choral music, seemed to need more time than i had available. now, i'm retired -- and might, in principle, extend musixtex as required. but she's had 15 years' _more_ experience using sibelius, and i fear i have no chance of weaning her off it. (despite it being taken over by a company of corporate ahems). i have a friend who uses a different wysisomething vaguely appropriate sort of program, and she too is loath to leave it ... and she's a computer scientist and occasional latex user. --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [Tex-music] Diagonal lines
Don Simons dsim...@roadrunner.com wrote: Bob Tennent wrote I've used both pstricks and tikz/pgf. Both would be acceptable but tikz is simpler. Here is a diagonal-line producing TeX source using tikz: \input tikz.tex \tikzpicture \draw (0,0) -- (1,1.5); \endtikzpicture. \bye \end ... Not sure how you define simpler. Here's a tested tex source using pstricks: \input pstricks \psline(0,0)(1,1) \bye \end In fact, pstricks was definitely simpler for me, because it was already in my system, but I had to download and install pgf. it depends whether you want to create pdf. i know most of the music my wife writes (using sibelius, i admit) is distributed as print. if that's not the way you want to go, digital distribution is far better served by generating pdf output, which is much easier using pdftex (which rules out pstricks, to first order). pgf works on most if not all tex-alike platforms (tex, pdftex, xetex and possibly luatex). robin. who's not written any musixtex for years. --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [Tex-music] Diagonal lines
Don Simons dsim...@roadrunner.com wrote: David Allsopp wrote TeX does provide a way - but sadly it's in the form of METAFONT! Arbitrary lines is one of the reasons for using PostScript specials (or MetaPost). So it would be nice if someone who knows a whole lot more than I do about PostScript and TeX would once and for all put together a (small) package to draw a line of thickness t from point A to point B. I'm sure that would be much much much simpler than the postscript music fonts. such macros have been written already (pstricks). the trick would be to develop a glue layer to link pstricks to musixtex perhaps a better bet would be to go with pgf/tikz, a pair of packages that do amazing graphics things within tex (or pdftex, ...) itself. (the platform independence is alluring, but i've not even tried programming pgf or tikz, myself.) robin the mostly silent musixtex-er --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [Tex-music] Adventures with \coda
Jean-Pierre Coulon cou...@obs-nice.fr wrote: On Fri, 5 Apr 2013, Dirk Laurie wrote: There is a tiny but growing movement to standardize software release numbering. There is a not tiny but already grown up movement among software developpers to manipulate their intructions till their software seems to work by chance, and make incessant bufgix releases! :-) Can't developpers think a bit more and write the correct software from the beginning? that is, in fact, nearly impossible, except by chance. speaking as an one time (commercial) software developer, i can name more problems that arose from mistakes by the commissioning people, than arose from errors on my part. robin (incidentally, the english word is developer; i presume the french word has two letters p...) --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [Tex-music] Panmus: a proposal? a dream?
Kittybriton kittybri...@gmail.com wrote: PDFInclude adds pages from a PDF document to a LaTeX document during compilation. do you mean the \includepdf command of the pdfpages package? or am i missing something that's not been submitted to ctan, ever? When I say TeX score, I'm thinking of i.e. MusiXTeX. robin --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [Tex-music] PMX under MacTex
Luis A. cirl...@yahoo.es wrote: I'd like you help me with some problems with PMX, I am trying all, the problem is: I have the complete MacTeX 2010 distribution on iBook G4 (it works very well), however seems to miss the PMX package. not surprising. pmx only made it to tex live when bob tennent sorted out the tangled mess that was pmx on ctan and wima; so pmx is in current tex live 2012. mactex 2010 was based on texlive 2010, so predates pmx in mactex by 2 years. I can not install it. The instructions in the manual are not very clear for Mac. I tried to install it putting the files on the path directory, but it doesn't recognizes the command when I compile the file.pmx; maybe I did it wrongly so at this point I don't know what else to do. i'm no mac expert, so i fear i can't help. (i installed mactex 2012 on my laptop, for tex-ing while on the move, but i do *nothing* else with it, not even update -- so it too has no pmx.) speaking from my un*x experience, i would put pmx in the directory you're working in. however, bob's suggestion to upgrade to current mactex is the proper way to go ... will lead to fewest hassles down the road. (and then update it with tlmgr -- i don't think pmx is in the original base system.) robin --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [Tex-music] New manager of the WIMA software archive
Simon Dreher simon.dre...@gmx.net wrote: Am 31.12.2012 17:10, schrieb Bob Tennent: |However, this is the one package that one absolutely must |download and install from the original version. The repackaging |industry tends to lag behind. For example, if you use the latest |Ubuntu LTS (12.04 Precise Pangolin) you haven't got it. The problem is the LTS version: either you use the up-to-date version (raring? At least quantal!) and get texlive2012, or you use the LTS version getting only security fixes and some tested bugfix version and have a stable, but soon somehow outdated system... it was your choice ;-) Of course you /can/ install texlive by hand, if you don't care about the benefits of a clean system package management system. Actually it is often recommended, but somehow this is a bit contradictive to the idea of LTS distros... it's a problem for people who manage their own machines. my work machine (belonging to the laboratory) is 12.04 lts by lab policy. i run my own tl2012 installation, separately -- i need to keep up, but i'm not allowed to change my os. Dirk: I believe Ubuntu depends on Debian packaging and the Debian maintainer for musixtex et al regards WIMA as the upstream source. m-tx 0.60d-5 is in Debian testing. And works quite well. Only some of the short commands for compiling the m-tx sources seem to be missing (pmx2pdf and m-tx), but the basic commands prepmx (for m-tx) and pmx (pmx tex for pmx - dvi) are working great. note that i don't ordinarily use musi*tex (it's my wife who's the professional musician). i'm just here keeping an eye on you lot ;-) (as the ctan team, we try to remain aware of what people are doing.) robin --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [Tex-music] Mysterious musix.cfg and musix11
Xavier Moch xa...@hotmail.com wrote: I formatted my computer before I installed PMX again (with GhostScript and Ghostview and so on). PMX works fine, but MusiXTeX doesn't. Explanation : 1/ pmxab myfile gives a correct result. I can etex this file on another computer (with MusiXTeX 1.15 too). 2/ etex myfile does not work on my computer. I get following lines : [...] - D:\Documents\TeX\Tempetex Pirates This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (MiKTeX 2.9) entering extended mode (D:\Documents\TeX\Temp\Pirates.tex (C:\Users\Xaxou\AppData\Roaming\MiKTeX\2.9\tex\generic\musixtex\musixtex.tex MusiXTeX(c) 1.15 3 April 2011 Running miktex-makemf.exe... miktex-makemf: The musix source file could not be found. Running hbf2gf.exe... hbf2gf (CJK ver. 4.8.0) Couldn't find `musix.cfg' miktex-maketfm: No creation rule for font musix11. ! Font \musiceleven=musix11 not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not found. to be read again \font l.735 \font \musicthirteen=musix13 ? --- I don't know which packages I have forgotten. Has anyone an idea ? Moreover, I checked on the other computer : there is no musix.cfg file on the hard drive. I get the same lines until MusiXTeX(c) 1.15 3 April 2011, but nothing like Running miktex-makemf.exe... (I've got maxinstruments=6 - and so on - instead) I had a look on the line musix13 too : it is part of musixtex.tex What was wrong when I installed the files again ? pass. i see that you're using miktex, and miktex's packages for musixtex and its fonts seem ok -- i.e., derived from bob's current stuff on ctan. if it's really not able to use the fonts from its own packages, that would signal a serious bug with miktex. otoh, if you've downloaded your musixtex stuff from wima rather than use the miktex packages, i'm afraid i'm not the person to answer your question; i've never used non-miktex stuff with miktex. (i reserve that sort of behaviour for unices, where i understand the system rather better.) robin --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [Tex-music] No room for new \dimen
Bob Tennent r...@cs.queensu.ca wrote: TeXLive and MikTeX have found the CTAN distributions more convenient than the WIMA packages because most files are pre-organized in TDS-compliant tree hierarchies. the fact is, that wima's software directory always seems a shambles, to mere occasional users such as me. (tl and miktex admins have no chance -- at least i have a basic idea of what's what.) which is why _i_ (as a ctan manager) was so grateful to bob for supplying up-to-date versions of musixtex stuff for ctan. _that's_ why tl and miktex use the ctan distribution. robin --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [Tex-music] musixtex.zip: 3 versions ?
Bob Tennent r...@cs.queensu.ca wrote: |By now I can avail myself of 3 different versions of |musixtex.zip: | | (1) the official WIMA version: | http://icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/musixtex.zip | , | | (2) the Bob Tennent version, recommended in WIMA for users | whose installation is compliant with the TDS with a | link to here: | http://CTAN.org(tex-archive/macros/musixtex/musixtex.zip , | | (3) the CTAN version: | http://CTAN.org(tex-archive/macros/musixtex/musixtex-texmf.zip | | As far as I can gather, (1) is what mxinsuse.pdf (DSimons et | al.) refers to, and (2) is what goes with your installation | guide. | | But what does (3) refer to ? (looks to me that's also | 'yours' ...) That's the TDS-compliant part; it's now everything except the README, the ChangeLog, the installation doc and the licence. Please at least read the README and if possible musixtex-install.pdf. It wouldn't kill you to actually do an installation somewhere. | And are the 3 versions -- they are all different from another | -- compatible/incompatible when used for the various | installion guides/install scripts ? I must admit that I am a | bit confused, and I believe that's not entirely due to my | slow conception ... There are two versions. The CTAN version is derived from the official WIMA version but uses an distribution-independent approach to installation. This is what MikTeX and TeXLive use because they understand this approach. The WIMA method is mostly Windows or even MiKTeX-dependent and is far more complicated. | As I am presently writing the MiKTeX 1.15 Installation part | of my PMX tutorial and am engulfed in discussions with Don | about all that, this is not an academic questions, but | clarity will help many readers.; so your help will be | appreciated! I'm just working on updating pmx at CTAN (to version 2.6.03, because that seems to be the best compromise between bug-fixes and unstable and/or incomplete features). Unfortunately, TeXLive won't take pmx because the source is in Fortran but perhaps MiKTeX will. up until quite recently, i was taking stuff for ctan from wima (i told this list about my procedure some time ago). i have always found the wima software pages confusing (notably because of multiple versions of the same thing, with subtly different names), so when bob started working on musixtex, i gave up my stumbling attempt to get an up-to-date pmx onto ctan. as of now, i shall no longer struggle to gather stuff from wima; if anyone wants a package from wima on ctan (and hence, possibly, in tex live), they will need to upload the package to ctan, in the normal way. robin one of the last few ctan maintainers --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [Tex-music] Archive stats observations and mysteries
Don Simons dsim...@roadrunner.com wrote: I wrote ..it looks like every single file in the archive has been downloaded at least once, including of course many that are not linked from any of the web pages. Any good ideas how or why that could happen? And Christian replied Just a guess: the counts are file accesses rather than more specifically downloads. If that is true any file has been accessed at least once when it was uploaded. I doubt that, because practically all of these files were originally uploaded before you started including the .zip's in the count. I check some more to see if it really does include all of the files. far more likely it's a crawler signal (there are masses of them, and they skew the stats of the tex faq something rotten). robin --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [Tex-music] fwd: question about musixflx
bob tennent asked for a translation. i can _read_ this stuff, but it comes out as a sort of stream of consciousness in my brain, not easy to write down. so i used google translate from the text of the mail: === I am writing to you because I have some problems with musixflx and musixtex. I am quite new in the use of musixtex, so I do not know how I should actually use musixflx. Namely, if I score sheet had brought, and let the code compile with XeLaTeX (I use texworks, downloaded from TeX), the rows are not ordered - that would musixflx do, but I can not use. I have all the necessary files, (musixflx.bat, musixflx.lua) but I do not know in which directory should I place them. For example: ... \ texlive \ 2010 \ texmf-dist \ ... or what. I have read the guide (. Pdf), but that has not enough to help me solve this problem. Please if you can help me, please reply. If you want, I can. Tex file attach. === robin --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [Tex-music] TeX Compiling
Xavier Moch xa...@hotmail.com wrote:
Thanks all !
There are many advantages in using tex (or etex) rather than pdflatex ;
but as a consequence, I've got a question with TeX...
Does anyone know whether it is possible to activate the ansinew encoding
with TeX (as a LaTeX command, \usepackage[ansinew]{inputenc} will probably
not work) ? In french, we keep having difficulties with words like
Fl�te. For some reasons, I'd rather write it Fl�te (ANSI-encoding) and
not Fl\^{u}te.
that's not an ansi encoding, nor yet is it the slightly tweaked ansinew
-- i would guess it's utf-8 (widnoze tends to use unicode nowadays, and
most current unices can do so).
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
may well deal with the problem -- it won't if the file contains a
mixture of old (ansinew) stuff and current utf-8 -- but give it a
try anyway.
robin the latex nerd
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Re: [Tex-music] TeX Compiling
David Allsopp dra-n...@metastack.com wrote:
Robin Fairbairns wrote:
Does anyone know whether it is possible to activate the ansinew
encoding with TeX (as a LaTeX command, \usepackage[ansinew]{inputenc}
will probably not work) ? In french, we keep having difficulties with
words like Fl te. For some reasons, I'd rather write it Fl te
(ANSI-encoding) and not Fl\^{u}te.
that's not an ansi encoding,
Yes it is - û is just ANSI character 251.
however, the token that appeared in my mail was indeed an utf-8
sequence rather than a single octet.
maybe there's something converting to utf-8 when forwarding to me: seems
unlikely (since i'm postmaster here, i would know), but it is possible,
i guess.
of course things like fl\^ute kill hyphenation, but unless the score is
accompanied by an essay, that's unlikely to be an issue. latex gets
around that.
Xavier was asking how to achieve this in Plain TeX!
doh! sorry for the mis-reading.
r
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Re: [Tex-music] TeX Compiling
Xavier Moch xa...@hotmail.com wrote: Something strange happens since I began to use PMX : the way I get from .tex to .pdf. Explanations : Assume I have a .pmx file, named file.pmx. By executing pmxab file, I obtain file.tex. That's great, no problem with that. What shall I do with file.tex ? Since I used (very shortly) MusiXTeX before I dowloaded PMX (which changed my life... or at least the time spent to write music), I supposed I had to do : pdflatex file musixflx file pdflatex file But pdflatex gives the error : ! Undefined control sequence \rm boggle. there exist classes that suppress that command, but article doesn't. i don't understand what's happened to \rm, but it doesn't really matter Moreover, it's the same with \nopagenumbers and \bye all three are plain tex commands, and you asked for latex. (\rm is retained in standard latex, including article, to help people compile their old documents ... but people haven't learned the new commands, even though new in this context means since 1994...) as Jill-Jênn said: use pdftex rather than pdflatex. robin --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [Tex-music] WIMA
Christian Mondrup rec...@icking-music-archive.org wrote: Dirk Laurie wrote: It is possible that some members of this list have not recently visited WIMA http://icking-music-archive.org itself. There is a discussion on the future of WIMA that we should be aware of. I encourage Tex-Music subscribers to participate in that discussion. Let me emphasize, though, that the discussion is primarily focussed on WIMA's sheet music activities: they're increasingly vulnerable with just one, not that young person, yours sincerely, as manager. In order to have WIMA's score collection maintained in the long run we _must_ transform WIMA into a fully collaborative project. i concur, here. i work in another collaboration, maintaining the tex archive network: recently, one collaborator resigned and withdrew his node (tug.ctan.org) from the network. since then, we have come to realise that two nodes aren't enough: we've been run off our feet, and have made far more mistakes than we would ordinarily expect. (fortunately, none of the mistakes was in any sense serious.) WIMA's software activities are on a much more modest level. I have my hands full with the score activities and hence participate only sparsely in the management of the MusiXTeX related activities. Luckily there is a group of persons taking responsibility with Don as a highly competent 'boss'. I don't see any urgent need for changing the web interface of the MusiXTeX WIMA interface like that under discussion for the score collection. But maybe WIMA's MusiXTeX section could benefit from a 'modernization'. Please feel to comment on that in the new WIMA forum, http://forums.icking-music-archive.org/index.php Concerning this mailing list we should definitely make no changes after TUG (TeX User Group) has taken over the hosting. tug is more active now than it has seemed in my 25 years as a tex user; long may it remain so! -- it's providing valuable resources. robin --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] Vertical distribution of systems.
Jean-Pierre Coulon cou...@obs-nice.fr wrote:
I have a piano score with only 4 systems. I do not like the vertical
distribution I obtain because the first and last systems are stuck to
the vertical boundaries of the page.
Instead, I would like the space above the first system and below the
last system to be half the space between systems. How can I do this
without putting two ugly \vspace's in my source?
what's the concept of ugly in a tex source?
\input musixtex
\instrumentnumber1\setstaffs12\setclef1{\bass\treble}
%\vskip2cm
instead:
\leavevmode\vskip0pt plus2fill
\lineskip0pt plus1fill
\startpiece
\NOtes\qa{HKNH}|\qa{hjec}\en\bar\NOtes\qa{HKNH}|\qa{hjgc}\en\bar%
\NOtes\qa{HKNH}|\qa{hjlc}\en\bar\NOtes\qa{HKNH}|\qa{hjoc}\en\bar%
\NOtes\qa{HKNH}|\qa{hmjc}\en\bar\NOtes\qa{HKNH}|\qa{hcec}\en\bar%
\NOtes\qa{HKNH}|\qa{hmjc}\en\bar\NOtes\qa{HKNH}|\qa{hjec}\en\bar%
\NOtes\qa{HKNH}|\qa{hjhc}\en\bar\NOtes\qa{HKNH}|\qa{hjjc}\en\bar%
\NOtes\qa{HKNH}|\qa{hjkc}\en\bar\NOtes\qa{HKNH}|\qa{hjgc}\en\bar%
\NOtes\qa{HKNH}|\qa{hjec}\en
\linegoal4%
\Stoppiece
%\vskip2cm
instead:
\vskip0pt plus2fill
\eject
\end
Incidentally the first \vskip does not do its job.
that's what the \leavevmode is for. (it's not the *right* thing to do,
but since my brain is only just waking up, it'll do.)
\hskip at the start of a line doesn't work either...
robin
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Re: [TeX-Music] Vertical distribution of systems.
Jean-Pierre Coulon cou...@obs-nice.fr wrote:
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010, Robin Fairbairns wrote:
what's the concept of ugly in a tex source?
Simply the need for my calculating the half of the distance between
systems before I know this distance! IMO trial-and-error is even
uglier!
instead:
\leavevmode\vskip0pt plus2fill
perhaps:
\null\vskip0pt plus1fill
(\null was what i was trying to remember, before)
\lineskip0pt plus1fill
[...]
This gives too big a top space. Could you please explain how I can adjust
the spaces?
Incidentally the first \vskip does not do its job.
I can work around by saying \centerline{~} before this \vskip.
the same thing (in effect) as \null does: an invisible hbox on the main
vertical list. \leavevmode actually starts a line, though it doesn't
seem to matter here.
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Re: [TeX-Music] WIMA has been shut down
maurizio .mau. codogno dotmau...@gmail.com wrote: The January Webalizer visit statistics says Total Hits 2165121 Total Files 1628099 . Avg Max Hits per Hour 2910 11532 Hits per Day 69842 102820 Files per Day 52519 84621 Pages per Day 2164 3571 Sites per Day 3935 6069 Visits per Day 1279 1436 KBytes per Day 10805387 103106373 16GB of disk space is not a great deal for a decent server; I fear that 10 TB/Day (with a peak of 103 TB in a single day!) is the real problem. We should ask Google :-) which would seem to imply that on a normal day, the average file size is 205kbytes. so software is very probably not the problem. i'm not surprised daimi coughed at those figures. my ctan node hovers around 100 gbytes/day; the other two shape their traffic to stop their transfer rates getting that high. ctan, of course, relies on a batch of mirrors to ease the load, but i've never heard of a wima mirror. robin ___ tex-mu...@icking-music-archive.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://mailman.nfit.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/icking-music-archive.org-tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] WIMA has been shut down
Jean-Pierre Coulon cou...@obs-nice.fr wrote: On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Christian Mondrup wrote: Since 2007 WIMA has been hosted by DAIMI (The Dept. of Computer Science, University of Aarhus, Denmark). Unfortunately this has suddenly stopped. A few hours ago the DAIMI staff, without precedent warning, disabled WIMA's part of the DAIMI web server. The reason is that WIMA is causing a too high load on DAIMI's web servers, threatening the faculty activities. Couldn't the DAIMI staff limit the time ratio that the server uses for WIMA to say, 10%? So the access speed to truly scientific faculty ressources would be decreased in a acceptable manner. it's the bandwidth that's the problem, like as not. hardly any web servers i know use more than a small fraction of the cpu power available. cpu power is cheap. i guess they really need to shape the network traffic (specify a maximum transfer rate for the various applications). this isn't trivial, but there are established techniques (possibly even in the web server software). robin ___ tex-mu...@icking-music-archive.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://mailman.nfit.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/icking-music-archive.org-tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] Problems in concatenating music files
Jean-Pierre Coulon cou...@obs-nice.fr wrote: On Wed, 17 Feb 2010, Andre Van Ryckeghem wrote: I have problems when i concatenate dvi or ps files. ps files: I have already succeeded like this: open a DOS window and type: COPY file_1.ps+file_2.ps myconcat.ps and convert myconcat.ps to pdf with your usual method. (I hope the unix cp command works the same) it does; a user here told me yesterday he had resolved a problem that way. If there are font problems convert only one of the ps files to pdf with your usual method to investigate. i.e., find which file is giving a problem, by converting them independently. robin ___ tex-mu...@icking-music-archive.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://mailman.nfit.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/icking-music-archive.org-tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] A new application for PMX
Don Simons dsim...@roadrunner.com wrote: [passwords in pmx] I love it. my wife is a great one for mnemonics. she sang her daughter's bank account number back to her, on the phone on saturday (1=tonic, 5=dominant, etc.). daughter said mum, you're weird. weird she may be (part of why i like her, actually) but she's remembered the number :-) (and now i've got to send the money to daughter. damn. had forgotten that...) robin ___ tex-mu...@icking-music-archive.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://mailman.nfit.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/icking-music-archive.org-tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] Understanding Postscript-to-pdf conversion better.
Jean-Pierre Coulon cou...@obs-nice.fr wrote: Both the MiKTeX and Ghostscript distributions contains a ps2pdf.bat file. I have both packages installed. If I type ps2pdf -h it seems that of MiKTeX is called. What will happen if I don't have Ghostscript installed? Does the MiKTeX distribution need Ghostscript for the ps2pdf job, for the fonts or the like? ps2pdf is a wrapper script for ghostscript, so you definitely need it (gs, that is). sometimes, tex output uses fonts that gs provides, but it shouldn't be necessary in a modern tex distribution (all of which provide themeans to embed the gs fonts directly in the postscript output). robin ___ tex-mu...@icking-music-archive.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://mailman.nfit.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/icking-music-archive.org-tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] Problem with mtxlatex
Cornelius C. Noack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
\documentclass[11pt]{article}
\usepackage{mtxlatex}
\mtxlatex
\nofiles
\begin{document}
\newpage
\begin{Score} {title of piece} {bachair} \end{Score}
\bigskip
\Done.
\end{document}
bachair.tex is a 5-line, 1-insrument piece, nothing complicated.
I get (with MikTex 2.6) the following error message:
This is pdfTeX, Version 3.141592-1.40.4 (MiKTeX 2.6) (preloaded format=latex
2008.6.16) 17 SEP 2008 21:54
entering extended mode
...
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! No room for a new \dimen .
knuth's feeble limit of 256 dimen registers in total. more of these are
used by latex than by plain tex.
add
\usepackage{etex}
as a new line 2 (i.e., before loading mtxlatex)
that'll make use of the extended register set of the e-tex extensions to
tex.
robin
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Re: [TeX-Music] OpusTeX
Christian Mondrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the package was never on ctan -- just a particular ctan node's /incoming directory. otoh, the reason i kept it that way was that andreas egler wanted it so. so ubuntu isn't a dissident ctan, Just for clarifying - ubuntu is one among several linux distributions (IMHO an excellent distribution). Ubuntu offers ao. a set of teTeX installation packages. i know that. i'm a bit surprised it's still distributing tetex -- i had thought most distributions were doing texlive now. (after all, even redhat now distributes texlive, and they distributed tetex 2 for ages after tetex 3 came out...) robin ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] OpusTeX
Beda Szukics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody know if OpusTeX is still maintained by its author, Andreas Egler? last i heard he was developing yet another new system. The last post I have seen from him is about four years ago. The usual place you could download it doesnt exist no more. Before I tell everybody where it is possible to get it now, I would like to contact Andreas. andreas was very insistent that i should not put opustex on the main ctan archive, which i back up. i had a minor disc problem, and was unable to retrieve the distribution ... since it wasn't on ctan. if anyone does get in contact with him, please ask him to mail me. i don't remember if my address for him didn't work, or whether he just didn't respond. will mail you the address i have for him, off line/ Robin Fairbairns For the CTAN team ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] MusiXTeX hates LaTeX: true or myth?
Jean-Pierre Coulon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 9 Jul 2007, Robin Fairbairns wrote: [...] no: registers are things like boxes, counters, lengths and the like. in knuth's original code, there were a maximum of 256 of each; in e-tex 65535 are available. it was always easy to run out of registers in original tex -- pictex was a good candidate for that; it wasn't just musixtex. Since I find PICTEX.TEX from 06/11/1989 in my EMTEX distribution, I believe that in this distribution from 1997, the same as Daniel's, the register limit had already been expanded, but Daniel was not aware of this! nope. pictex has been around since forever. however, it uses large amounts of registers, and with latex or context it was always prone to running out (there are several solutions to this problem, both under latex and under context -- making pictex use scratch registers instead of allocating its own, etc). without those packages, you were always in danger of finding you couldn't fit anything _else_ in with pictex; even with them there was always a chance of problems. e-tex dates from before the time of your pictex distribution, but i don't believe eberhard ever provided an e-tex version in his system, so etex.sty wouldn't have helped. robin ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] MikTeX 2.5 font troubles
Eva-Raphaela Jaksch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This isn't strictly a MusixTeX question, for which I apologise, but I'd be pathetically grateful for some help because the problem I'm encountering is interfering with my ability to view my old MusixTeX typesettings in Yap now that I have MikTeX 2.5 installed. for general questions like this there's the miktex list (see miktex.org), or texhax (see tug.org) or the comp.text.tex group on google groups. the last is probably the place to start... Specifically, Yap can't seem to find the Palatino font I use for my titles, and it's substituting Computer Modern and spewing error messages as follows when I check the Document Properties in Yap: searching c.t.t on google, there's a seeming similar question, which suggests you remove a package urwstd and install packages times, courier, helvetica, palatino and so on... this only makes sense if you upgraded from 2.4 since there doesn't seem to be a urwstd package in miktex 2.5. note -- i don't have miktex 2.5 either (i had intended to put it on my laptop over these hols, but i've spent most of my time cooking up to now...); these comments are based on examining miktex on the archive rather than running it. good luck... robin ___ TeX-music mailing list TeX-music@icking-music-archive.org http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] (Ab)using MusiXTeX
Olivier Vogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le dimanche 29 octobre 2006 à 09:29 +0100, Thomas Schwinge a écrit : While being a happy user of MusiXTeX ``regular'' output, I now have a use case to abuse MusiXTeX a bit: I need high quality pictures of notes only, i.e. without staffs and everything, just pictures of a quarter note, an eighth note, rests and so on. Is this possible to achieve? do you mean pictures (i.e., free-standing things you could hold up in front of a class, say) or do you mean notes you could incorporate as symbols in your document? You can easily convert any character of a font into a picture with FontForge. So you just have to open musix20.pfb with FontForge and to convert what you want. but why? why not just make a .eps which contains one character and the subsetted font? The only problem is that, you don't have a single character producing directly the quarter and eight notes. so, doesn't help with the precise issue that thomas asked about? i can't imagine that the macros to make the notes are difficult to extract from musixtex, however, so that the fontforge route is surely going to lose in the face of conventional tex-based image production. robin ___ TeX-music mailing list TeX-music@icking-music-archive.org http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Kuykens's warning, history of MusiXTeX
Don Simons skryf: I agree that disk space is no longer an issue, and that the tone of the Kuyken remark is too negative, However, it is still true, at least for the tetex distribution, that MusiXTeX sails dangerously close to TeX capacity exceeded. really? even in tetex 3, which has (by default) *huge* arrays...? if it's in scraping the ceiling in tetex, it'll scrape the ceiling in any distribution whatever. (of course, if you're talking about shortages of counts, etc., that is fixed by etex.sty, exactly the same in any distribution.) robin ___ TeX-music mailing list TeX-music@icking-music-archive.org http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Re: Non-PDF special ignored! running pdflatex no like CMTT10
Cannot find or create the font 'CMTT12'. Could this be an uppercase/lowercase conversion problem? Normally that font should be called cmtt12. no: for the bluesky fonts, the font name (as in the name inside the file cmtt12.pfb) is in upper case; the map line goes: cmtt12 CMTT12 cmtt12.pfb meaning for font cmtt12, load cmtt12.pfb and then take the font named CMTT12 inside it. so, either the op has a broken bluesky distribution, or [s]he is using the bakoma fonts with a bluesky map file. robin ___ TeX-music mailing list TeX-music@icking-music-archive.org http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Pronunciation of MusiXTeX
Did anyone ever actually hear how any of the developers pronounced it? Yes, me. MusicTeX (Daniel Taupin) and musicflex (Ross Mitchell) are combined to MusiXTeX (me, so x is the last character of flex) thanks, andreas: it's obvious when you explain it! robin ___ TeX-music mailing list TeX-music@icking-music-archive.org http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Pronunciation of MusiXTeX
2. TeX and the X pronounced as the Greek chi is absolutely NOT like Bach or Loch! There are two very different versions of ch, the Bach and Loch version being more deep throat and ugly, and the chi and TeX version being softer and higher, it is somewhat a relative to f. Where do you take that from? You should not trust too much the German way of pronouncing chi, that's not realy valuable as reference here :-) The vowel just before the ch in question decides about that: a, o and u call for the darker Bach/Loch pronounciation, and e and i call for the softer chi/TeX version. But does this also apply for a mixed construct like TeX? looking here http://www.greek-language.com/alphabet I find that Donald Knuth's instruction how to pronounce seem to be correct (Not found in English. Much like Spanish 'j') and the Spanish 'j' is definitely not like the ch in 'ich'. the fact that knuth offers different pronunciation guides seems to me to indicate that he's not really concerned all that much, so long as it's not pronounced as english x. i've been at a meeting where he's heard different pronunciations (ch as in german ich - michel goossens; as modern greek isolated chi - me[*]; as ch in bach - several others), and i saw no sign that he cared one jot. i've had really quite angry mail about my slightly flippant answer in the tex faq on this topic. i can't be bothered, frankly. robin [*] of course, chi tends to lose its gutterality in modern speech (becoming a mere h), though my teacher made it gutteral when he was telling us spellings. i don't know classical or biblical greek, so can't comment about them. ___ TeX-music mailing list TeX-music@icking-music-archive.org http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] LaTeX help wanted for new musixdoc
Don Simons wrote: I've received a proposed update to the musixtex distribution from Olivier Vogel. Christian and I are in the process of cleaning up some loose ends before officially posting it. One problem neither of us has a quick solution to concerns the vertical alignment of pages in musixdoc.tex. The attached pdf illustrates the problem. It was made with dvips -tletter. The pages are all too low (top margin is too big) and also the page number is misplaced on some pages, falling halfway off the bottom of the image. Can anyone untangle the mysteries of LaTeX and explain how to fix the vertical positioning? If any potential advisor wants to look at the source, you may be able to get it from this link: i should be looking at musixtex-T113/doc/musixtex/musixdoc.tex in the .zip file? what you describe is typical of a latex file with the class option a4paper set, but it seems that the musixdoc i'm looking at isn't suffering from that. the other possibility is that your dvips is set to a4 but your ghostscript is set to force everything to letter paper - what does your postscript say the paper size is? robin ___ TeX-music mailing list TeX-music@icking-music-archive.org http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Typr 1 fonts with new tetex
On Wednesday 15 June 2005 19:13, Guido Milanese wrote: Many thanks to Robin Fairbairns and Christof Biebricher. I am out of town now. After returning at home Il'll try the suggested systems and let you know what happened. It may be useful to some future users of the archives to know what was my mistake: I had run updmap as root, and not as user. So the pfb were used only if I compiled the file as root. Simple but quite distressing before finding it... there are user-level and root calls; if you're running as root, use updmap-sys. updmap-sys isn't much use in the case of single-user systems... ___ TeX-music mailing list TeX-music@icking-music-archive.org http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] OH NO!!!
user user shouts his spam: OH NO!!! THE CLASSICAL MUSIC ARCHIVES (http://www.classicalarchives.com) HAVE A LOT MORE FILES THAN YOU DO, AND THEY'RE SO MEAN!! PLEASE, NEVER EVER CONTRIBUTE ANY FILES TO THEM! do we have _any_ recordings on the icking archive? i thought not, which makes user's claim trivially true. otoh, i can't find a single score on user's site... ___ TeX-music mailing list TeX-music@icking-music-archive.org http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Type 1 fonts for Opustex
Veronica Brandt writes: I'm having a go at converting the opustex fonts from mf into Type 1. I'm using mftrace and I'm concentrating on the Gregorian chant fonts. Has anyone already done this? not that i've heard of: a useful thing to do! I'm running into similar problems as Mr Milanese with regard to having any of the Type1 fonts I've ever installed recognised. The TETEXDOC.pdf that's on my computer is dated Feb 2003. I'm using tetex 2.0.2c-6 on Debian waiting for a copy of the stable release of Sarge. I've found a folder called /usr/share/tetex-base/maps which seems to be the only directory called maps on my computer. Am I warm? it's different in the latest tetex, but: 1. create a directory something like texmf-local/dvips/opustex, and put the map file in it 2. put the .pfb files and .tfm files in the normal sorts of places -- see http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=instpackages+wherefiles 3. run texhash (mktexlsr is the same command, but texhash is older so _i_ tend to remember it first) 4. run updmap --enable Map opustex.map or whatever name you've given the opustex 5. try using the stuff (and complain to the list if it still doesn't work). And when is Opustex v1.0 being released? Andreas popped up somewhere (was it here?) a few months back, and said he was working on it again. if i had said that, it wouldn't be a terribly useful sign (i spend time on too many things), but perhaps Andreas is actually near release ... let's hope! robin ___ TeX-music mailing list TeX-music@icking-music-archive.org http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Typr 1 fonts with new tetex
in my installation of tetex I used to have type 1 fonts for musixtex under /usr/local/texmf. Now, after an upgrade of my Linux box, I cannot use the fonts any more. Apparently something in the paths is changed and following the old README is not succesful. probably to do with positioning the maps. they should now be in fonts/map/syntax/font/ (or similar) syntax is dvips or pdftex or dvipdfm ..., according to the type of map. i expect you should be using dvips. this is all discussed in the tetex docs -- read them via texdoc TETEXDOC (most distressing -- i don't know why it's uppercase). robin ___ TeX-music mailing list TeX-music@icking-music-archive.org http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] LaTeX editor
Cornelius Noack writes: I am using WinEdt for editing LaTeX document and it works fine for MusiXTeX, but there is a quite fine free editor that does the job just as well. It is LaTeXEditor: http://www.ntu.edu.sg/home5/pg03053527/latexeditor/. Try it out. This definitely not a MusiXTeX-specific matter, so I do NOT think there should be a link to this editor on the MusiXTeX software page itself. The place where (some) text editors are discussed is Eva Jaksch's installation manual (http://icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/musixwinstall.pdf) where she has recently included an `honorable mention' of the crimson editor. Anyone who feels that the latexeditor proposed should be mentioned there as well should contact Eva. i agree. however, if the authors of latexeditor can bring themselves to submit it to ctan, i might feel moved to publicise it via the tex faq. ___ TeX-music mailing list TeX-music@icking-music-archive.org http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] Re: Notify
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[TeX-music] Re: Message Error
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Re: [TeX-music] ps2pdf and Acrobat reader
I have converted the attached .ps file into pdf with the ps2pdf command available with version 4.6 of gsview, and I when I view it with Acrobat Reader 6.0 some eighth-rests are spread over my score. Does anybody know why ? Is there an option that can change this ?=20 Couldn't there be a spurious character in the defintion of \ds, that do not bother previous versions of ps2pdf ? this rings a bell -- other users have reported similar problems with ghostscript 8.14 and accents wandering about. the thing to do, if i'm right, is to replace ghostscript, not gsview. i fear i can't remember which versions of ghostscript gsview 4.6 will work with, but there are versions 8.30 and 8.31 on ctan, and i've not heard anything bad about them. (yet -- 8.31 is pretty new.) robin ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] MusixTeX issues with LaTeX
Don Camillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Experimenting with M-Tx+PMX+MusixTeX+LaTeX recentl I noticed a few
issues. I did only a small list archive browsing for answers, I post my
questions here instead. Sorry if they were already discussed here.
1. I couldn't use the Babel package with MusixTeX because notes like
[`a] in the scores drove LaTeX crazy and those notes didn't appear in
the output. Similar effects with repeat sign :|
that'll be because of the active character selections of _your_
language's (croatian?) babel style.
probably best to do the music under a language that doesn't use active
characters:
...
\usepackage[english,croatian]{babel}
...
\begin{document}
...
\begin{otherlanguage}{english}
\begin{music}% or whatever
...
\end{music}
\end{otherlanguage}
otherwise, you might try
\shorthandoff{`:}% or whatever
inside the music environment; it'll restore the shorthand characters
again once you leave the environment.
[sorry, can't help with your question 2.]
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Re: [TeX-music] MusiXTeX authors and other questions
I've been writing a greatly revised chapter on notation software for the 2nd edition of my book, and I've completed the profile of MusiXTeX but I don't have a list of recent and current maintainers. Can someone direct me to that information ? i'm also in the frame for this sort of information -- the ctan catalogue is sorely lacking music software info. obviously, i have to record daniel as the author of musi[cx]tex (marked inactive :-( ), but while i see occasional patches going past, i'm not aware of anyone actually maintaining the software. Also, does a CVS exist for MusiXTeX ? What about PMX ? I've had some problems with PMX, but I'm still studying how it works and will hopefully be able to resolve my difficulties on my own. Hopefully... ;) pmx is another important item that doesn't have a catalogue entry. and while it's still there, i ought to write something about musictex (if only to make clear it's not a good idea to go for it). robin ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] Re: Re: Thanks!
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