Re: [Tex-music] Back to square one after a long break from typesetting

2013-07-28 Thread Hermann Hinsch
Am Sonntag, 9. Juni 2013, 15:22:38 schrieb Raphaela:


Hello all,

I used to be quite an active user of MusixTeX for classical guitar typesetting, 
but 
have been occupied with other things for something like six years now. I'd like 
to 
take it up again with a view to completing a few projects I left unfinished 
back 
then, but it's been so long that my last working installation of TeX/MusixTeX 
was 
several computers ago.

So I'm returning to this list with much the same request for help that I posted 
back on Mutex years and years ago -- would anyone be kind enough to talk me 
through the process of setting up the requisite software on my current machine? 
Just yesterday I installed Linux Mint 15 on a spare partition and this is the 
OS I'd 
prefer to run TeX and MusixTeX on, but I'm still finding my way around and I 
don't 
even know yet whether anything I'll need comes preinstalled in Mint. I also 
have 
no facility at all in finding my way around a Linux system at any level deeper 
than 
the GUI, so I'd be grateful if any forthcoming advice and explanations were 
tailored to my level of inexpertise!

Thanks in advanceEva-Raphaela


Take this link! You will find all you need to install the latest TeXLive. I 
used this to 
successfully install MusiXTeX on SUSE 12.3


http://icking-music-archive.org/software/htdocs/Getting_Started_Four_Scenar.html#SECTION0002200
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Re: [Tex-music] Back to square one after a long break from typesetting

2013-07-28 Thread Hermann Hinsch
Am Sonntag, 9. Juni 2013, 15:22:38 schrieb Raphaela:


Hello all,

I used to be quite an active user of MusixTeX for classical guitar typesetting, 
but 
have been occupied with other things for something like six years now. I'd like 
to 
take it up again with a view to completing a few projects I left unfinished 
back 
then, but it's been so long that my last working installation of TeX/MusixTeX 
was 
several computers ago.

So I'm returning to this list with much the same request for help that I posted 
back on Mutex years and years ago -- would anyone be kind enough to talk me 
through the process of setting up the requisite software on my current machine? 
Just yesterday I installed Linux Mint 15 on a spare partition and this is the 
OS I'd 
prefer to run TeX and MusixTeX on, but I'm still finding my way around and I 
don't 
even know yet whether anything I'll need comes preinstalled in Mint. I also 
have 
no facility at all in finding my way around a Linux system at any level deeper 
than 
the GUI, so I'd be grateful if any forthcoming advice and explanations were 
tailored to my level of inexpertise!

Thanks in advanceEva-Raphaela





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Re: [Tex-music] Back to square one after a long break from typesetting

2013-06-10 Thread Dirk Laurie
2013/6/9 Raphaela evarapha...@gmail.com:

 thank you. I have now installed the full TeXlive package, but the
 instructions on the page for Unix-like systems are not working for me (all I
 get is a command 'tlmgr' not found message) and I don't know how to go
 about installing a package manually.

A chicken-and-egg problem. If you already have an older TeXLive it can
used to get the new one going, but if you don't, your system can't see
the necessary scripts.

Find the directory

   texlive/2012/texmf/scripts

(maybe 2013 in your case) and add it to your PATH. Do `hash -r`
otherwise your system might remember that it could not find tlmgr.
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Re: [Tex-music] Back to square one after a long break from typesetting

2013-06-10 Thread Raphaela
On Monday, June 10, 2013 at 11:12:49 AM, dirk.lau...@gmail.com wrote:

 A chicken-and-egg problem. If you already have an older TeXLive it can
 used to get the new one going, but if you don't, your system can't see
 the necessary scripts.

 Find the directory

texlive/2012/texmf/scripts

 (maybe 2013 in your case) and add it to your PATH. Do `hash -r`
 otherwise your system might remember that it could not find tlmgr.

Thanks, but I discovered after writing my last post that tlmgr is
actually absent from the version of TeXlive (even TeXlive-full) in the
Mint/Ubuntu repositories! I managed to install a musixTeX package via 
the repositories, but it's out of date and doesn't work as it should.

I guess my next step is to install a version of TeXlive that does 
include tlmgr (or more correctly to find hout how to do that in the 
first place). Until then, could you explain more clearly *how* to add 
a directory to my path? As I said, I only installed Mint on Saturday 
and I've barely begun to learn the ropes!

Eva-Raphaela


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Re: [Tex-music] Back to square one after a long break from typesetting

2013-06-10 Thread Bob Tennent
 |2013/6/9 Raphaela evarapha...@gmail.com:
 |
 | thank you. I have now installed the full TeXlive package, but the
 | instructions on the page for Unix-like systems are not working for me
 |(all I
 | get is a command 'tlmgr' not found message) and I don't know how to go
 | about installing a package manually.

Off-list I've learned that the OP actually installed texlive
packages using her distribution package manager. So there is no
tlmgr available. She has managed to install a musixtex package but
it's not the most recent version and the musixtex script produces
dvis rather than pdfs.

According to

http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=allarch=i386searchon=nameskeywords=musixtex

the most recent musixtex packages are available in the testing
and unstable repositories. Could someone familiar with Linux Mint
advise her on how to add those repositories to the package manager
configuration?

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Re: [Tex-music] Back to square one after a long break from typesetting

2013-06-10 Thread Bob Tennent
 |Thanks, but I discovered after writing my last post that tlmgr is
 |actually absent from the version of TeXlive (even TeXlive-full) in the
 |Mint/Ubuntu repositories! I managed to install a musixTeX package via
 |the repositories, but it's out of date and doesn't work as it should.

Raphaela: It *is* working as intended. But the musixtex script
generates dvi files. You can convert dvi to pdf by using standard
tools (dvips and ps2pdf).  

 |I guess my next step is to install a version of TeXlive that does
 |include tlmgr (or more correctly to find hout how to do that in
 |the first place). Until then, could you explain more clearly
 |*how* to add a directory to my path? As I said, I only installed
 |Mint on Saturday and I've barely begun to learn the ropes!

No.  Your next step is one of the following:

 + download and use musixtex.lua from CTAN or WIMA

 + add testing or unstable repositories to your package manager and
   update musixtex

 + actually follow the instructions for installing TeXLive itself 
   (*not* using your package manager)

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Re: [Tex-music] Back to square one after a long break from typesetting

2013-06-10 Thread Dirk Laurie
2013/6/10 Raphaela evarapha...@gmail.com:

 To that end, would someone be kind enough to explain how to add the
 relevant bin directory to my PATH? Where would I find the PATH and how
 do I add things to it?

Say you have some excutables in /home/raphaela/texmf/bin.

$ echo $PATH
/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
$ PATH=/home/raphaela/texmf/bin:$PATH
$ echo $PATH
/home/raphaela/texmf/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
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Re: [Tex-music] Back to square one after a long break from typesetting

2013-06-10 Thread Simon Dreher
Hi Raphaela,

 (raphaela may have a local helper, but if that helper is hot enough to
 know about tl 2013, it's a bit odd that she needs _our_ help.)
 
 Correct. I'm on my own! My next step will be to attempt to remove the 
 existing TeX installation using the software manager, and then go with 
 your strand (b).

Actually, that's not necessary (if you have enough space). Have a look
at http://www.tug.org/TUGboat/tb32-1/tb100gregorio.pdf for a detailed
description of the installation of texlive on debian-based systems.
Version 2013 should work the same way. I don't know if mint uses
sudo command
to execute a command with root rights (on my debian it is not configured
like this). If that doesn't work, use
su
to get a root shell and type in the commands without sudo.
Anything else should work the same way.

 Once I have a TeX installation in place that tlmgr 
 (which seems to have been somewhat crudely removed from the full 
 version in the repositories, since some screenshots of the interface 
 are still there but not the executable itself), I might stand a better 
 chance of being able to follow the musixtex installation instructions 
 on the WIMA site.
 
 To that end, would someone be kind enough to explain how to add the
 relevant bin directory to my PATH? Where would I find the PATH and how
 do I add things to it?

The bin directory you should use is /usr/local/bin (you need to have
root rights to put stuff there). This directory is automagically on the
PATH.
But with the texlive version from ctan you shouldn't need that - getting
the packages via tlmgr should do the job.

Good luck,
Simon
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Re: [Tex-music] Back to square one after a long break from typesetting

2013-06-10 Thread Raphaela
On Monday, June 10, 2013 at 3:17:05 PM, dirk.lau...@gmail.com wrote:

 Where would I find the PATH and how
 do I add things to it?

 Say you have some excutables in /home/raphaela/texmf/bin.

 $ echo $PATH
 /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
 $ PATH=/home/raphaela/texmf/bin:$PATH
 $ echo $PATH
 /home/raphaela/texmf/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games

Fantastic, thank you!

R


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Re: [Tex-music] Back to square one after a long break from typesetting

2013-06-10 Thread Bob Tennent
 |Correct. I'm on my own! My next step will be to attempt to remove the
 |existing TeX installation using the software manager, and then go with
 |your strand (b). Once I have a TeX installation in place that tlmgr
 |(which seems to have been somewhat crudely removed from the full
 |version in the repositories, since some screenshots of the interface
 |are still there but not the executable itself), I might stand a better
 |chance of being able to follow the musixtex installation instructions
 |on the WIMA site.
 |
 |To that end, would someone be kind enough to explain how to add the
 |relevant bin directory to my PATH? Where would I find the PATH and how
 |do I add things to it?

If you don't know enough about Linux to do that, I don't recommend
this. I suggested several much simpler alternatives: use dvips and
ps2pdf to convert dvi to pdf, download and use a script that does
that for you, or configure your package manager so musixtex will be
updated to a version that installs that script.  You currently have
working TeX and musixtex packages.  

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[Tex-music] Back to square one after a long break from typesetting

2013-06-09 Thread Raphaela
Hello all,

I used to be quite an active user of MusixTeX for classical guitar
typesetting, but have been occupied with other things for something like
six years now. I'd like to take it up again with a view to completing a few
projects I left unfinished back then, but it's been so long that my last
working installation of TeX/MusixTeX was several computers ago.

So I'm returning to this list with much the same request for help that I
posted back on Mutex years and years ago -- would anyone be kind enough to
talk me through the process of setting up the requisite software on my
current machine? Just yesterday I installed Linux Mint 15 on a spare
partition and this is the OS I'd prefer to run TeX and MusixTeX on, but I'm
still finding my way around and I don't even know yet whether anything I'll
need comes preinstalled in Mint. I also have no facility at all in finding
my way around a Linux system at any level deeper than the GUI, so I'd be
grateful if any forthcoming advice and explanations were tailored to my
level of inexpertise!

Thanks in advance
Eva-Raphaela
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Re: [Tex-music] Back to square one after a long break from typesetting

2013-06-09 Thread Raphaela
Bob,

thank you. I have now installed the full TeXlive package, but the
instructions on the page for Unix-like systems are not working for me (all
I get is a command 'tlmgr' not found message) and I don't know how to go
about installing a package manually. I assume that what I need would be
something like this one:
musixtex_0.115.ctan20130123-2_i386.debhttp://pkgs.org/ubuntu-13.10/ubuntu-universe-i386/musixtex_0.115.ctan20130123-2_i386.deb.html(I'm
running a 32-bit version of Mint; Cinnamon if it makes a difference),
but will it put itself in the correct location if I execute it?

Eva-Raphaela

On 9 June 2013 16:13, Bob Tennent r...@cs.queensu.ca wrote:


 Eva-Raphaela: Mint is a Debian-based distribution. You should be
 able to find a musixtex package for it:

 http://pkgs.org/download/musixtex

 Otherwise, follow the instructions under

 TeXLive on a Unix-like System

 at

 http://icking-music-archive.org/software/htdocs

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