Re: [TeX-Music] Image in the title: slightly off topic
No joke. Just a brain fart. Sorry about that --Done Simons From: icking-music-archive.org-tex-music-boun...@mailman.nfit.au.dk [mailto:icking-music-archive.org-tex-music-boun...@mailman.nfit.au.dk] On Behalf Of Jill-Jênn VIE Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 1:22 AM To: Werner Icking Music Archive Subject: Re: [TeX-Music] Image in the title: slightly off topic Le 3 janv. 09 à 02:53, Don Simons a écrit : Lets be clear: PMX doesnt specify any default music size; its a required input. As for the computed value of \interstaff, yes the default does look a little big in this case. In fact Ive noticed over the years that it often tends to come out a little bigger than Id on the first page. But as Jean-Pierre and Jill-Jean Whark! :P Was it a joke (for "Jill-Jean")? :D are well aware, its easy to adjust this with Ai. Yup, I almost never use it :D Le 3 janv. 09 à 08:59, Don Simons a écrit : If thats really the question, why not convert the pdf to eps using epswrite in gsview32, and then do this: Yup yup, thanks :) Hey, that discussion is one of the longest ever seen on the TeX-Music mailing list \o/ -- Jill-Jênn ___ tex-mu...@icking-music-archive.org mailing list http://mailman.nfit.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/icking-music-archive.org-tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] Image in the title: slightly off topic
Le 3 janv. 09 à 02:53, Don Simons a écrit : Let’s be clear: PMX doesn’t specify any default music size; it’s a required input. As for the computed value of \interstaff, yes the default does look a little big in this case. In fact I’ve noticed over the years that it often tends to come out a little bigger than I’d on the first page. But as Jean-Pierre and Jill-Jean Whark! :P Was it a joke (for "Jill-Jean")? :D are well aware, it’s easy to adjust this with Ai. Yup, I almost never use it :D Le 3 janv. 09 à 08:59, Don Simons a écrit : If that’s really the question, why not convert the pdf to eps using epswrite in gsview32, and then do this: Yup yup, thanks :) Hey, that discussion is one of the longest ever seen on the TeX-Music mailing list \o/ -- Jill-Jênn ___ tex-mu...@icking-music-archive.org mailing list http://mailman.nfit.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/icking-music-archive.org-tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] Image in the title
Jill-Jênn wrote
>Is it possible to put an image (PDF format) just after the title of a
MusiXTeX sheet?
If thats really the question, why not convert the pdf to eps using epswrite
in gsview32, and then do this:
===
1 1 4 4 4 4 0 0
1 1 20 0
t
.\
\\input epsf\
Tt
Hello~\epsffile{pchlogo.eps}
c44 d e f g f e d c d e f g f e d c0 /
?
A pdf of the result is attached. This seems about as straightforward as
possible.
--Don Simons
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Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 1:17 AM
To: Werner Icking Music Archive
Subject: [TeX-Music] Image in the title
Hi! Happy New Year 2009!
Is it possible to put an image (PDF format) just after the title of a
MusiXTeX sheet? Japanese characters, for example :)
For information, I tried to include the Japanese characters directly in
XeTeX (thanks to Hiroaki Morimoto), but here is what I got:
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/5273/xdvipdfmxwg5.png
But on Acrobat Reader, it works fine. I'll try to fix this.
Thanks in advance.
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Jill-Jênn
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Re: [TeX-Music] Image in the title: slightly off topic
Lets be clear: PMX doesnt specify any default music size; its a required input. As for the computed value of \interstaff, yes the default does look a little big in this case. In fact Ive noticed over the years that it often tends to come out a little bigger than Id on the first page. But as Jean-Pierre and Jill-Jean are well aware, its easy to adjust this with Ai. --Don Simons From: icking-music-archive.org-tex-music-boun...@mailman.nfit.au.dk [mailto:icking-music-archive.org-tex-music-boun...@mailman.nfit.au.dk] On Behalf Of Jill-Jênn VIE Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 10:25 AM To: Werner Icking Music Archive Subject: Re: [TeX-Music] Image in the title: slightly off topic Le 2 janv. 09 à 17:28, Jean-Pierre Coulon a écrit : On Fri, 2 Jan 2009, Jill-Jênn VIE wrote: A friend managed to convert it, using: pdftops .pdf && pstoedit -f gs:pdfwrite .ps .pdf Here is the result! http://mickay.jill.free.fr/tmp/hurray2.pdf Nice piece, but is there a good reason to work in \smallmusicsize and to put such a large \interstaff? It's what is put by default when I compile the PMX code ^^ J'espère qu'à free.fr vous avez beau temps:-) Je vous en prie, tutoyez-moi :) Pourquoi dites-vous ça ? free.fr est un bon hébergeur ^^ -- Jill-Jênn ___ tex-mu...@icking-music-archive.org mailing list http://mailman.nfit.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/icking-music-archive.org-tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] Image in the title: slightly off topic
Le 2 janv. 09 à 17:28, Jean-Pierre Coulon a écrit : On Fri, 2 Jan 2009, Jill-Jênn VIE wrote: A friend managed to convert it, using: pdftops .pdf && pstoedit -f gs:pdfwrite .ps .pdf Here is the result! http://mickay.jill.free.fr/tmp/hurray2.pdf Nice piece, but is there a good reason to work in \smallmusicsize and to put such a large \interstaff? It's what is put by default when I compile the PMX code ^^ J'espère qu'à free.fr vous avez beau temps:-) Je vous en prie, tutoyez-moi :) Pourquoi dites-vous ça ? free.fr est un bon hébergeur ^^ -- Jill-Jênn ___ tex-mu...@icking-music-archive.org mailing list http://mailman.nfit.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/icking-music-archive.org-tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] Image in the title: slightly off topic
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009, Jill-Jênn VIE wrote: A friend managed to convert it, using: pdftops .pdf && pstoedit -f gs:pdfwrite .ps .pdf Here is the result! http://mickay.jill.free.fr/tmp/hurray2.pdf Nice piece, but is there a good reason to work in \smallmusicsize and to put such a large \interstaff? J'espère qu'à free.fr vous avez beau temps:-) Jean-Pierre Coulon cou...@obs-nice.fr___ tex-mu...@icking-music-archive.org mailing list http://mailman.nfit.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/icking-music-archive.org-tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] Image in the title
A friend managed to convert it, using: pdftops .pdf && pstoedit -f gs:pdfwrite .ps .pdf Here is the result! http://mickay.jill.free.fr/tmp/hurray2.pdf Good evening/afternoon/morning/etc. (according to your hour ^^), Le 2 janv. 09 à 15:23, Hiroaki MORIMOTO a écrit : Hi Jill-Jênn, do you mean every note in http://mickay.jill.free.fr/tmp/hurray.pdf (converted with dvipdfm-0.13.2c, not dvipdfmx nor xdvipdfmx) is correctly visible on your MacOSX Preview? -- Jill-Jênn ___ tex-mu...@icking-music-archive.org mailing list http://mailman.nfit.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/icking-music-archive.org-tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] Image in the title
Le 2 janv. 09 à 15:23, Hiroaki MORIMOTO a écrit : Hi Jill-Jênn, do you mean every note in http://mickay.jill.free.fr/tmp/hurray.pdf (converted with dvipdfm-0.13.2c, not dvipdfmx nor xdvipdfmx) Yup ^^ Isn't xdvipdfmx for XeTeX only? is correctly visible on your MacOSX Preview? Yup! And thanks for the circumflex in my name :D and good game for having guessed that I'm a boy :) -- Jill-Jênn ___ tex-mu...@icking-music-archive.org mailing list http://mailman.nfit.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/icking-music-archive.org-tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] Image in the title
Hi Jill-Jênn, do you mean every note in > http://mickay.jill.free.fr/tmp/hurray.pdf (converted with dvipdfm-0.13.2c, not dvipdfmx nor xdvipdfmx) is correctly visible on your MacOSX Preview? Best regards, Hiroaki MORIMOTO Tokyo, Japan Jill-Jênn VIE wrote: > HEYYY!!! > > http://mickay.jill.free.fr/tmp/hurray.pdf > > Some questions remain unsolved, can you help me to answer them: > 1) Why dvips imagtitl didn't work, Jean-Pierre Coulon? > 2) Do anyone have simpdftex? Is it useful? > 3) It's a pity that the Japanese text is a bit grayer than there: > http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/5273/xdvipdfmxwg5.png > Isn't it possible to include a PDF instead of a PS file in a TeX file? > > Le 2 janv. 09 à 13:58, Arjen Bax a écrit : > > > Maybe there is some (illegal) pdf-instruction in the pdf for which the > > programmers of acroread wrote a work-around and those of kpdf didn't. > > So, xdvipdfmx is bugged? > That would mean it's impossible to generate a MusiXTeX XeTeX PDF file > readable by Preview.app or KPDF, etc.? > > Thanks to all! > > -- > Jill-Jênn > > > ___ > tex-mu...@icking-music-archive.org mailing list > http://mailman.nfit.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/icking-music-archive.org-tex-music ___ tex-mu...@icking-music-archive.org mailing list http://mailman.nfit.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/icking-music-archive.org-tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] Image in the title
Hi all, [preamble to all] I have been helping Jill-Jênn for these days (or, for months). Since I'm not a MacOSX user, I had many hurdles about explaining the multibyte-character typesetting with XeTeX. However, we cleared them and thus now he can produce a PDF as you know. [contents] > 1) Why dvips imagtitl didn't work, Jean-Pierre Coulon? Although I have no knowledge about this, I guess the problem is in writing font-encoding table into the PDF. That's beyond my skill but I will write what I think about... MusiXTeX fonts uses char0 to char32; ordinally control codes. dvips has a option -G*, Shift low chars to higher pos. (Of course xdvipdfmx does not have such option.) Perhaps using -G* makes no effect, but is there any relation about this? > 3) It's a pity that the Japanese text is a bit grayer than there: > http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/5273/xdvipdfmxwg5.png Using color specials will do, but the syntax is specific on each dvi->pdf translator. Each dvips/dvipdfm/pdftex have different syntax. Using LaTeX a little absorbs the difference but the .tex source is dependent on the software at all. > Isn't it possible to include a PDF instead of a PS file in a TeX file? Possible in xdvipdfmx (in the same way of dvipdfm). I forget the detail. Best regards, Hiroaki MORIMOTO Tokyo, Japan Jill-Jênn VIE wrote: > HEYYY!!! > > http://mickay.jill.free.fr/tmp/hurray.pdf > > Some questions remain unsolved, can you help me to answer them: > 1) Why dvips imagtitl didn't work, Jean-Pierre Coulon? > 2) Do anyone have simpdftex? Is it useful? > 3) It's a pity that the Japanese text is a bit grayer than there: > http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/5273/xdvipdfmxwg5.png > Isn't it possible to include a PDF instead of a PS file in a TeX file? > > Le 2 janv. 09 à 13:58, Arjen Bax a écrit : > > > Maybe there is some (illegal) pdf-instruction in the pdf for which the > > programmers of acroread wrote a work-around and those of kpdf didn't. > > So, xdvipdfmx is bugged? > That would mean it's impossible to generate a MusiXTeX XeTeX PDF file > readable by Preview.app or KPDF, etc.? > > Thanks to all! > > -- > Jill-Jênn > > > ___ > tex-mu...@icking-music-archive.org mailing list > http://mailman.nfit.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/icking-music-archive.org-tex-music Best regards, Hiroaki MORIMOTO Tokyo, Japan ___ tex-mu...@icking-music-archive.org mailing list http://mailman.nfit.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/icking-music-archive.org-tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] Image in the title: dvips imagtitl
Le 2 janv. 09 à 14:51, Jean-Pierre Coulon a écrit : Some questions remain unsolved, can you help me to answer them: 1) Why dvips imagtitl didn't work, Jean-Pierre Coulon? What do you mean? Here it works! Do you have an imagtitl.dvi? How big? (here 1492 bytes). 1816... I just typed tex imagtitl ^^' -- Jill-Jênn ___ tex-mu...@icking-music-archive.org mailing list http://mailman.nfit.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/icking-music-archive.org-tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] Image in the title: dvips imagtitl
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009, Jill-Jênn VIE wrote: Some questions remain unsolved, can you help me to answer them: 1) Why dvips imagtitl didn't work, Jean-Pierre Coulon? What do you mean? Here it works! Do you have an imagtitl.dvi? How big? (here 1492 bytes). Jean-Pierre Coulon cou...@obs-nice.fr___ tex-mu...@icking-music-archive.org mailing list http://mailman.nfit.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/icking-music-archive.org-tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] Image in the title
HEYYY!!! http://mickay.jill.free.fr/tmp/hurray.pdf Some questions remain unsolved, can you help me to answer them: 1) Why dvips imagtitl didn't work, Jean-Pierre Coulon? 2) Do anyone have simpdftex? Is it useful? 3) It's a pity that the Japanese text is a bit grayer than there: http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/5273/xdvipdfmxwg5.png Isn't it possible to include a PDF instead of a PS file in a TeX file? Le 2 janv. 09 à 13:58, Arjen Bax a écrit : Maybe there is some (illegal) pdf-instruction in the pdf for which the programmers of acroread wrote a work-around and those of kpdf didn't. So, xdvipdfmx is bugged? That would mean it's impossible to generate a MusiXTeX XeTeX PDF file readable by Preview.app or KPDF, etc.? Thanks to all! -- Jill-Jênn ___ tex-mu...@icking-music-archive.org mailing list http://mailman.nfit.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/icking-music-archive.org-tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] Image in the title
Le 2 janv. 09 à 13:34, Jean-Pierre Coulon a écrit : On Fri, 2 Jan 2009, Jill-Jênn VIE wrote: I guess it's because I chose "Pdftex" instead of "TeX and Ghostscript" as script. I'm currently looking for how to install it :D I think my attachment looks like what you want. It is true that pdftex cancels the image without complaint :-) AFAIK if you have MikTeX there is nothing more to install to make dvips+ps2pdf. Good news! macbook-de-jill-jenn-vie:narcimil jj$ dvips imagtitl This is dvips(k) 5.95a Copyright 2005 Radical Eye Software (www.radicaleye.com ) ' TeX output 2009.01.02:1337' -> |lpr . [1] That didn't work (why?), but dvipdfm did! Just a little problem: the Japanese characters are in a .ps file, but it's a whole page with just the characters at the top. How to include only these? Do I have to crop something? I heard of pdfcrop... Thanks, Jean-Pierre :) -- Jill-Jênn ___ tex-mu...@icking-music-archive.org mailing list http://mailman.nfit.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/icking-music-archive.org-tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] Image in the title
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009, Jill-Jênn VIE wrote:
I guess it's because I chose "Pdftex" instead of "TeX and Ghostscript" as
script.
I'm currently looking for how to install it :D
I think my attachment looks like what you want.
It is true that pdftex cancels the image without complaint :-)
AFAIK if you have MikTeX there is nothing more to install to make
dvips+ps2pdf.
Jean-Pierre Coulon cou...@obs-nice.fr\input musixtex
\input epsf
\centerline{\BIGtype BLABLABLA da MILANO}
\vskip2cm
\centerline{\BIGtype Mylanguage \epsfxsize=2cm\epsfysize=2cm\epsfbox{gmagni.ps}}
\vskip2cm
\centerline{\BIGtype BLABLABLA da MILANO}
\setstaffs12
\startpiece
\qspace
\NOTes|\wh{jk}\en
\bar% 2
\NOtes|\ha{jf}\en
\NOTes|\wh i\en
\bar% 3
\Notes|\qa{hghf}\en
\NOTes|\shake n\wh g\en
\systemnumbers%
\bar% 4
\Notes|\roffset{.9}{\zw f}\qu{fghi}\en
\NOtes|\zw h\hu j\itieu3m\hu m\en
\bar% 5
\NOtes|\ttie3\hl m\en
\NOtes|\itieu3l\hu l\en
\NOtes|\zw f\ttie3\hu l\itieu3k\hu k\en
\stoppiece
\end
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Re: [TeX-Music] Image in the title
Le 2 janv. 09 à 12:35, Jean-Pierre Coulon a écrit : On Fri, 2 Jan 2009, Jill-Jênn VIE wrote: If I compile it (without modifying the source), I get a good sheet (except that it could be positioned better), but the EPS file isn't included (?). Did you succeed in unzipping narcimil.zip and obtaining gmagni.ps? (size=58K) Yup. I guess it's because I chose "Pdftex" instead of "TeX and Ghostscript" as script. I'm currently looking for how to install it :D But what I wanted is to put the Japanese characters just after the title of the sheet, not on a cover page. I don't think it is possible :( What to you mean with 'title'? What do you mean with 'just after'? Some Japanese characters in the \setname string? Or in the first \uptext string? I want to have that: http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/5273/xdvipdfmxwg5.png Here in the attachment I've put another image at bar 19. Ok, thanks. -- Jill-Jênn ___ tex-mu...@icking-music-archive.org mailing list http://mailman.nfit.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/icking-music-archive.org-tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] Image in the title
Le 2 janv. 09 à 12:16, Jean-Pierre Coulon a écrit : On Fri, 2 Jan 2009, Jill-Jênn VIE wrote: Every note: http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/3858/couloney8.png Hahaha! But then how come Christian succeeded in compiling my MusiXTeX source on WIMA? The only test I can suggest is to remove my two epsf lines and try again! If I compile it (without modifying the source), I get a good sheet (except that it could be positioned better), but the EPS file isn't included (?). But what I wanted is to put the Japanese characters just after the title of the sheet, not on a cover page. I don't think it is possible :( -- Jill-Jênn ___ tex-mu...@icking-music-archive.org mailing list http://mailman.nfit.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/icking-music-archive.org-tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] Image in the title
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009, Jill-Jênn VIE wrote: Every note: http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/3858/couloney8.png Hahaha! But then how come Christian succeeded in compiling my MusiXTeX source on WIMA? The only test I can suggest is to remove my two epsf lines and try again! Jean-Pierre Coulon cou...@obs-nice.fr___ tex-mu...@icking-music-archive.org mailing list http://mailman.nfit.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/icking-music-archive.org-tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] Image in the title
Le 2 janv. 09 à 11:32, Jean-Pierre Coulon a écrit : On Fri, 2 Jan 2009, Jill-Jênn VIE wrote: My PDF viewer also reads Y acute accent instead of notes there :/ Do you use xdvipdfmx? Do you mean *every* note troughout the pieces? Or only at the picture position? Here I use dvips + ps2pdf. I tried dvipdfmx instead without noticing trouble. The .pdf is only slightly bigger. Every note: http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/3858/couloney8.png -- Jill-Jênn ___ tex-mu...@icking-music-archive.org mailing list http://mailman.nfit.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/icking-music-archive.org-tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] Image in the title
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009, Jill-Jênn VIE wrote: My PDF viewer also reads Y acute accent instead of notes there :/ Do you use xdvipdfmx? Do you mean *every* note troughout the pieces? Or only at the picture position? Here I use dvips + ps2pdf. I tried dvipdfmx instead without noticing trouble. The .pdf is only slightly bigger. Bye, Jean-Pierre Coulon cou...@obs-nice.fr___ tex-mu...@icking-music-archive.org mailing list http://mailman.nfit.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/icking-music-archive.org-tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] Image in the title
Le 2 janv. 09 à 10:27, Jean-Pierre Coulon a écrit : There is an example with MusiXTeX source here: http://icking-music-archive.org/ByComposer/Narciso.php My PDF viewer also reads Y acute accent instead of notes there :/ Do you use xdvipdfmx? -- Jill-Jênn ___ tex-mu...@icking-music-archive.org mailing list http://mailman.nfit.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/icking-music-archive.org-tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] Image in the title
Le 2 janv. 09 à 10:31, Robin Fairbairns a écrit : you could include it in the normal way for any image, in pdftex. Ok, thanks :) Merci, Jean-Pierre Coulon ! personally, i would be using musixtex over pdflatex I didn't know it was possible. As I code in PMX, I only get a file I can compile with pdftex. But on Acrobat Reader, it works fine. I'll try to fix this. i'm not sure i understand that remark. The main Mac application to open PDF files is Preview. We don't need Acrobat Reader. What I get on Preview is the screenshot I provided. On Acrobat Reader I get the correct sheet. -- Jill-Jênn ___ tex-mu...@icking-music-archive.org mailing list http://mailman.nfit.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/icking-music-archive.org-tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] Image in the title
Jill-Jênn VIE wrote: > Is it possible to put an image (PDF format) just after the title of a > MusiXTeX sheet? Japanese characters, for example :) you could include it in the normal way for any image, in pdftex. (personally, i would be using musixtex over pdflatex, in which case "the normal way" is the latex standard graphics package. however, i've not tried my patches on current musixtex with current latex, so can't confidently say how this is done. you could use the latex standard graphics with miniltx.) > For information, I tried to include the Japanese characters directly > in XeTeX (thanks to Hiroaki Morimoto), but here is what I got: > http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/5273/xdvipdfmxwg5.png looks as if xetex has its font selection mixed up. since i don't know xetex, this comment comes without any sort of guarantee and without any supporting "fix". > But on Acrobat Reader, it works fine. I'll try to fix this. i'm not sure i understand that remark. robin ___ tex-mu...@icking-music-archive.org mailing list http://mailman.nfit.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/icking-music-archive.org-tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] Image in the title
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009, Jill-Jênn VIE wrote:
Hi! Happy New Year 2009!
Is it possible to put an image (PDF format) just after the title of a
MusiXTeX sheet? Japanese characters, for example :)
You must convert the image into .ps first. Say \input epsf at the
beginning of your MusiXTeX source, and say:
\hskip6.5cm\epsfxsize=6cm\epsfysize=8cm\epsfbox{yourpicture.ps}
(adjust the position afterwards).
There is an example with MusiXTeX source here:
http://icking-music-archive.org/ByComposer/Narciso.php
Hope this helps,
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