[Texascavers] Lots of great cave pictures
Maybe I am the last one to discover this site, but just in case it might be new to you, I strongly recommend a visit to view the pictures at this site: http://www.flickriver.com/groups/60045304@N00/pool/interesting/ I see only a few names that I recognize and I have no idea how many images are available. Set aside some serious time for your first visit. ===Carl Kunath
RE: [ot_caving] cyclone relief
And this will be very handy for the victims in Myanmar since the company is practically next door (relatively speaking) in Pakistan. I looked through their whole list of products and it looks like this will be just the thing for the folks who were affected--a variety of high energy food, milk that doesn't have to be refrigerated, antidiarrhea mixture. Very cool. Maybe Myanmar's gov't will be more willing to accept aid from Pakistan than they have been from the U.S. and the rest of the world. I'm not sure what their relationship is.> Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 15:06:15 -0500> From: dlocklea...@gmail.com> To: o...@texascavers.com> Subject: [ot_caving] cyclone relief> > I did not know this.> > Here is an example of a "High Energy Bisquit"> > http://www.em5aid.com/heb.php> > -> Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com> To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com> For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com>
Re: [ot_caving] essential caving gear ?
A helmet is not essential cave gear? 2008/5/8 David : > According to Woman's Health Magazine > > here is an article on essential caving gear: > > > Rags to Ditches > > Minimal gear makes spelunking a budget sport > > Fancy caving gear consists of a shapeless bright jumpsuit a la Bozo > the Clown. So save your dough and wear comfy old clothes instead, > suggests caving expert Emily Davis, owner of the bookstore Speleobooks > in Schoharie, New York, which she opened nearly 30 years ago as a fun > way to pay for her own caving adventures. She also says any pair of > sturdy ankle-high boots and gardening gloves will do. > > Here are five other items you shouldn't cave without. > > A backpack is too bulky for tight spaces. A better option is the > Sealline Seal pack ($30, Dom's Outdoor Outfitters). It's small enough > to slide through cracks but large enough to hold a tiny water bottle > and other light sources. Its watertight polyester and roll-down > closure will keep stuff dry. > > Prevent cave war wounds like bangs, bruises, and scrapes by wearing > the Gonzo Guano knee and elbow pads ($33 and $27, Karst Sports). Made > of tear-proof neoprene, these durable buffers have an extra center > layer and elastic straps for a cozy fit. > > And you thought glow sticks were found only in roller rinks and gay > bars. One of these 6-inch Cyalume Lightsticks (10 for $14, Karst > Sports) packs up to 12 hours of light but — unlike your other two > light sources — needs no batteries. Stuff them in cigar cylinders to > keep them from snapping too soon. > > Bring the Petzl Tikka Plus headlamp ($33, Petzl) for backup. Weighing > just 3 ounces, it has three adjustable lighting levels, including a > strong 30-yard beam, powered by a bulb that burns 100 hours on three > AAA batteries. > > - > Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com > > -- Go find out! -Heather Tucek UT Grotto (512) 773-1348 trog...@cavechat.org
Re: [ot_caving] essential caving gear ?
Woman's Health?!?! Dude!!! you seriously need to find something else to do, you have wy too much time in your hands On 5/8/08, David wrote: > According to Woman's Health Magazine > > here is an article on essential caving gear: > > > Rags to Ditches > > Minimal gear makes spelunking a budget sport > > Fancy caving gear consists of a shapeless bright jumpsuit a la Bozo > the Clown. So save your dough and wear comfy old clothes instead, > suggests caving expert Emily Davis, owner of the bookstore Speleobooks > in Schoharie, New York, which she opened nearly 30 years ago as a fun > way to pay for her own caving adventures. She also says any pair of > sturdy ankle-high boots and gardening gloves will do. > > Here are five other items you shouldn't cave without. > > A backpack is too bulky for tight spaces. A better option is the > Sealline Seal pack ($30, Dom's Outdoor Outfitters). It's small enough > to slide through cracks but large enough to hold a tiny water bottle > and other light sources. Its watertight polyester and roll-down > closure will keep stuff dry. > > Prevent cave war wounds like bangs, bruises, and scrapes by wearing > the Gonzo Guano knee and elbow pads ($33 and $27, Karst Sports). Made > of tear-proof neoprene, these durable buffers have an extra center > layer and elastic straps for a cozy fit. > > And you thought glow sticks were found only in roller rinks and gay > bars. One of these 6-inch Cyalume Lightsticks (10 for $14, Karst > Sports) packs up to 12 hours of light but — unlike your other two > light sources — needs no batteries. Stuff them in cigar cylinders to > keep them from snapping too soon. > > Bring the Petzl Tikka Plus headlamp ($33, Petzl) for backup. Weighing > just 3 ounces, it has three adjustable lighting levels, including a > strong 30-yard beam, powered by a bulb that burns 100 hours on three > AAA batteries. > > - > Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com > > - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com
[ot_caving] cyclone relief
I did not know this. Here is an example of a "High Energy Bisquit" http://www.em5aid.com/heb.php - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] Perfect Mothers Day Gift -- For Cavers!
Thank your mom this Mother's Day by protecting caves! Whatever she did, however she did it, your mother brought you up right, to become a caver.whether she intended to or not! Caving probably changed your life, by putting you on a road to adventure and exploration, and giving you a special group of good friends like no others. Maybe even led you to your partner or soul mate. For such a special mother, flowers or jewelry don't cut it. Thank Mom by making a donation in her name to the NSS! Contributing to the Cave Acquisition Fund means your mom will help the NSS and cave conservancies purchase caves to protect them, and protect access by cavers. A contribution to the Endowment Fund would mean mom would be helping ensure the future of your Society. Interested? Go to the NSS Web page www.caves.org/donate to see a full list of special Funds. You may donate securely online or print a pdf form to send by fax or regular mail. Perhaps it´s time to say "Thanks mom, for raising me up to be a caver!" This is just an idea for those so inclined. >From your NSS Fund Raising Committee. (Please circulate to cavers and their mothers.) - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[ot_caving] Fox News
Interesting little story about the big sinkhole down there close to Houston. But did anyone else notice how clueless the anchorperson/reporter sounded? I mean - there's nothing new about about on-screen news persons being cited as unbelievably stupid, but I have to wonder if there are others out there who feel this trend continues to get deeper and deeper... For the past few years my ears have been picking up on a tendency for the newscaster's inflection being WAY OFF for the material they are reading, as though the teleprompter is feeding them word by word rather than in sentences or paragraphs which their brains could possibly pre-decipher before regurgitating the information verbally. In college, when I worked at the ABC affiliate in Shreveport - I was a little surprised to discover that the newscasters (of that time) actually wrote their own copy. The teleprompter of the day displayed at least three lines of text at a time. The teleprompter was a black and white television screen in reverse image which reflected up to a piece of glass angled at about 45 degrees - which was positioned directly in front of the camera lens. The result was that they were looking at the camera lens while reading their copy. You could see their eyes moving back and front of the camera (but they were reading back words that they themselves had written up). But yeah - getting to know a little about these people did confirm they were indeed shallow and not exactly candidates for Mensa. Back in the old days, reporters were reading from actual sheets of paper. I remember I was impressed by the newscasters who could scan ahead several lines at a time and then look back up at the camera as they "read back" what they had just scanned. This was typically done with perfect inflection. By the way - I'm getting WAY off topic here. Where I was going with this - is the pathetic "conservatist nature" of the Fox News Organ. Along with the story on the web page about the 'Sinkhole De Mayo' - I saw a link about some gaffe by author/writer Steven King. Apparently Mr. King said something to a group of students about the importance of READING. He said something like "reading is important - if you *know* how to read, you're bound to get better jobs - if you *don't*know how to read you'll end up in the ARMY going to Iraq or some place like that.." I WAS DUMBFOUNDED by the commentators response on this. An insipid pretty lady with a big red ribbon around her neck (which apparently covered cleavage exposed by her low cut dress) - the voice deflection of an oxycotin user - she, a third person commentator - rattled on about Stephen King being "brain dead". So within a short period of time - there's at least three Fox News personalities making personal attacks on Mr. Stephen King - one asking the other if he had suffered brain damage by being hit by that pickup truck several years ago - and criticizing his body of work - a diatribe that goes on for about 5 minutes - which had very little to do with what Mr. King had actually SAID! All these morons were doing - it appeared - was attempting to discredit Steven King, because he inferred that the ARMY is for stupid people? Boy, that Pat Tillman dude sure made an intelligent choice... (Too bad his patriotic motivation was so terribly misguided.) So I watched a few other little Fox News video clip features. One that caught my eye was Hillary Clinton vs Obama - so I watched it too. WOULD YOU BELIEVE these axehandles brought up *Monica Lewinski*?!?!?! They actually got into the Clinton's legacy of being a smudge on the character of the WhiteHouse... *whew! * Could these people actually BELIEVE the crap they're saying? Or is someone in "the regime" paying them big bucks to say things that make them look very, very stupid? -WaV
[ot_caving] essential caving gear ?
According to Woman's Health Magazine here is an article on essential caving gear: Rags to Ditches Minimal gear makes spelunking a budget sport Fancy caving gear consists of a shapeless bright jumpsuit a la Bozo the Clown. So save your dough and wear comfy old clothes instead, suggests caving expert Emily Davis, owner of the bookstore Speleobooks in Schoharie, New York, which she opened nearly 30 years ago as a fun way to pay for her own caving adventures. She also says any pair of sturdy ankle-high boots and gardening gloves will do. Here are five other items you shouldn't cave without. A backpack is too bulky for tight spaces. A better option is the Sealline Seal pack ($30, Dom's Outdoor Outfitters). It's small enough to slide through cracks but large enough to hold a tiny water bottle and other light sources. Its watertight polyester and roll-down closure will keep stuff dry. Prevent cave war wounds like bangs, bruises, and scrapes by wearing the Gonzo Guano knee and elbow pads ($33 and $27, Karst Sports). Made of tear-proof neoprene, these durable buffers have an extra center layer and elastic straps for a cozy fit. And you thought glow sticks were found only in roller rinks and gay bars. One of these 6-inch Cyalume Lightsticks (10 for $14, Karst Sports) packs up to 12 hours of light but — unlike your other two light sources — needs no batteries. Stuff them in cigar cylinders to keep them from snapping too soon. Bring the Petzl Tikka Plus headlamp ($33, Petzl) for backup. Weighing just 3 ounces, it has three adjustable lighting levels, including a strong 30-yard beam, powered by a bulb that burns 100 hours on three AAA batteries. - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [ot_caving] caves in recent news articles
The late Ioannis Zenas from Greece had a website set up with the latest caving news from all over the world, World Caving News, unfortunately the site died when he passed away last year from a heart attack. Nico On 5/8/08, David wrote: > Caver fatality: > > This tragic death happened last week in England. > > http://www.buxtonadvertiser.co.uk/news/Fatality-in-39testing39-cave-route.4034162.jp > > > Interview of Dave Socky: > > http://www.planetblacksburg.com/2008/04/from_the_depths_of_caves_to_the_film_world.php > > The movie "The Descent" to receive sequel: > >http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/news/article/0,,4679520,00.html > > > Cave diving: > > > http://discovermagazine.com/2008/apr/11-the-race-to-find-the-world.s-biggest-underwater-caves > > > Commercialization of caves in Oman > > http://www.asiatraveltips.com/news08/85-OmanTourism.shtml > > > Malaysian caving: > >http://www.darkcave.com.my/ > > http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/4/20/sundaymetro/20977144&sec=sundaymetro > > > Jewel cave: > > > http://www.ajc.com/travel/content/travel/otherdestinations/us_stories/2008/05/01/TRrushmore_0504.html > > > Wisconsin caving: > > http://onmilwaukee.com/visitors/articles/wicaves.html?15025 > > > Kartchner Caverns: > > http://www.newwest.net/topic/article/cave_men_neil_millers_kartchner_caverns/C39/L39/ > > > New Zealand cave rescuers awarded by NZ parliament: > > http://www.stuff.co.nz/4473975a10.html > > > Caving in Borneo: > > > http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/TravelTimes/article/FeatureStory/20080427133303/Article/ > > Cave conservation in India: > > http://www.telegraphindia.com/1080428/jsp/northeast/story_9195867.jsp > > > There are probably dozens of more "new" articles, but finding them all > and organizing them into friendly e-mail is time consuming. > > It is my opinion that the caving world needs its own internet business like > Yahoo. I would be called > something like Yocaver, and have GuanoNews, GuanoTube, GuanoMail, and > GuanoSearch, GuanoChat, and GuanoPedia, all integrated together in a smooth > seemless user-friendly enviroment. > > David Locklear > > - > Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com > > - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com
[ot_caving] knots 101
YouTube has dozens of videos on the subject of knots. For example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpHnwMaEX88&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EygGgS6iqvM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EygGgS6iqvM So the questiona I have now are, which of the videos on the web is the best? And should the winner get an award? Since it would be a caving award, I think there would have to be something caving related to the video, such as the knot being tied underground with formations in the background. Or a lovely caver girl wearing sexy overalls and a hardhat. David Locklear - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [ot_caving] sports news
Why, do you anticipate turning into a frog? Fritz -Original Message- From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 11:34 AM To: o...@texascavers.com Subject: [ot_caving] sports news Here is something I want to try before I croak: Water-buffalo racing http://www.thailandlife.com/buffalo.htm - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [ot_caving] sports news
People Eating Tasty Animals - with lots of BBQ sauce sounds like a Texas thing. Or is that People Eating Tasty Annuals? BTW, some programmers in Austin TX used deadbeef to initialize their variable - 8 valid hex characters. And this way they knew that a variable was initialized. Not culturally sensitive in this day and age. nigel > Interesting, but, you better not let P.E.T.A. find out about it. > > Mark ... from Dave L, I guess there was no LED news today! > Water-buffalo racing > > http://www.thailandlife.com/buffalo.htm - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com
[ot_caving] caves in recent news articles
Caver fatality: This tragic death happened last week in England. http://www.buxtonadvertiser.co.uk/news/Fatality-in-39testing39-cave-route.4034162.jp Interview of Dave Socky: http://www.planetblacksburg.com/2008/04/from_the_depths_of_caves_to_the_film_world.php The movie "The Descent" to receive sequel: http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/news/article/0,,4679520,00.html Cave diving: http://discovermagazine.com/2008/apr/11-the-race-to-find-the-world.s-biggest-underwater-caves Commercialization of caves in Oman http://www.asiatraveltips.com/news08/85-OmanTourism.shtml Malaysian caving: http://www.darkcave.com.my/ http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/4/20/sundaymetro/20977144&sec=sundaymetro Jewel cave: http://www.ajc.com/travel/content/travel/otherdestinations/us_stories/2008/05/01/TRrushmore_0504.html Wisconsin caving: http://onmilwaukee.com/visitors/articles/wicaves.html?15025 Kartchner Caverns: http://www.newwest.net/topic/article/cave_men_neil_millers_kartchner_caverns/C39/L39/ New Zealand cave rescuers awarded by NZ parliament: http://www.stuff.co.nz/4473975a10.html Caving in Borneo: http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/TravelTimes/article/FeatureStory/20080427133303/Article/ Cave conservation in India: http://www.telegraphindia.com/1080428/jsp/northeast/story_9195867.jsp There are probably dozens of more "new" articles, but finding them all and organizing them into friendly e-mail is time consuming. It is my opinion that the caving world needs its own internet business like Yahoo. I would be called something like Yocaver, and have GuanoNews, GuanoTube, GuanoMail, and GuanoSearch, GuanoChat, and GuanoPedia, all integrated together in a smooth seemless user-friendly enviroment. David Locklear - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] FOXNews.com - Regulators Monitor Massive Sinkhole in Southeast Texas Town -
Well, there you are David. A cave (or is that cave-in) near Houston. Be careful what you wish for! I don't know what it really looks like up close--and they say there's no pollution associated--but from the pics it looks like a sludgy mess.> Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 08:15:09 -0500> From: jcra...@edwardsaquifer.org> To: Texascavers@texascavers.com> Subject: [Texascavers] FOXNews.com - Regulators Monitor Massive Sinkhole in Southeast Texas Town - > > Folks,> Check out the news on this new sinkhole in Texas.> > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354501,00.html> > > Jon> > > -> Visit our website: http://texascavers.com> To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com> For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com>
RE: [ot_caving] sports news
Interesting, but, you better not let P.E.T.A. find out about it. Mark -Original Message- From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 11:34 AM To: o...@texascavers.com Subject: [ot_caving] sports news Here is something I want to try before I croak: Water-buffalo racing http://www.thailandlife.com/buffalo.htm - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com
[ot_caving] sports news
Here is something I want to try before I croak: Water-buffalo racing http://www.thailandlife.com/buffalo.htm - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [ot_caving] rising gas prices
Good post, David. The rising cost of fuel, namely diesel, has definitely affected us. As a matter of fact, my wife now drives my truck and I take her car to work, as she has a much shorter drive than I do. To answer your query below: Is it affecting your budget yet? YES! Have you lightened your basket at the grocery store? YES! Have you put off getting a hair cut or any other things you used to take for granted? Not applicable. I shave my head. Now, if the prices of Mach III's go up... Are you planning on skipping any major events like the NSS Convention, OTR, TCR, etc? YES! Have you cut back on any activities yet? Movies? YES! Eating out? YES! Trips to the store? YES! Road-trips? YES! Went to New Orleans last month and used up the last of our tax refund. It was cheaper to fly than drive. Caving? YES! Sex? NO! Vasectomy in place, thankfully! Later, Mark
[ot_caving] rising gas prices
Gas prices at the pump are sure to be around $ 3.60 across Texas by next week. Is it affecting your budget yet? Have you lightened your basket at the grocery store? Have you put off getting a hair cut or any other things you used to take for granted? Are you planning on skipping any major events like the NSS Convention, OTR, TCR, etc? I am trying to accelerate less and brake less while driving, but that is hard to do in traffic, and when you are in a hurry. I am trying to turn off lights and tv's in the house when they are not being used. Have you cut back on any activities yet? Movies?Eating out? Trips to the store? Road-trips? Caving? Sex? For example, if you were in some kind of long distance relationship, where you had to commute to meet them. David Locklear - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com
[ot_caving] side-mounted flashlights
Here is a link for a $ 30 bracket to mount a flashlight on the side of your helmet: http://www.inboardhelmetlights.com./firehelmetlight.htm I think most cavers use lightweight plastic ties. The plastic ties are more practical for caving. They are lighter weight, readily available, and can be tightened to fit any shape or size of flashlight. In my opinion, with the arrival of tiny 2 watt LED flashlights, it makes sense to have these as side-mounted lights for back-up. In this age of LED caving, a real caver should never have to fumble in their pack in the dark for a light source, especially while on rope or in a precarious situation. David Locklear - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com
[ot_caving] Environmental news
Government to "give away" 127 million dollars to study filling underground voids with CO2. http://www.news.com/8301-11128_3-9937986-54.html?tag=ne.fd.mnbc Why does this study need to cost taxpayers 127 million dollars? The final results are obvious. The CO2 is going to be absorbed into the surrounding rock formation and eventually contaminate the area. I wish they would pay me 127 million dollars for that information. This plan obviously would not work in karst areas, but let them pay a geophysicist to write a report on that, so that it can end up in the giant warehouse where the government stores all of these reports. It would be much more practical to just freeze the CO2 into square frozen cubes and store them on a sand dune in Death Valley. David Locklear - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] FOXNews.com - Regulators Monitor Massive Sinkhole in Southeast Texas Town -
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[Texascavers] FOXNews.com - Regulators Monitor Massive Sinkhole in Southeast Texas Town -
Folks, Check out the news on this new sinkhole in Texas. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354501,00.html Jon - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[ot_caving] world news
According to various web news agencies, such as the New York Times, there is a news event concerning the karst region of Abkhazia. The Bush administration accused Russia of acting provocatively against Georgia by moving troops to the breakaway region of Abkhazia and shooting down a remotely piloted aerial vehicle, increasing the risk of armed confrontation. A White House spokeswoman, Dana Perino, urged Russia to restate its support for Georgia's sovereignty, and Georgia to show restraint. The number one cave on my list of caves to visit before I croak is in Abkhazia. http://www.mountain.ru/article/article_display1.php?article_id=2226 We need a cave like that near Houston. David Locklear P.S. Set your Google News personal preferences to include words that are of interest to you. I wish there were a news web-site where I could filter out news like Britney Spears, American Idol, topics of no interest, and also have the capability to archive articles I have already read, so that they don't keep popping up over and over. For example, I would like my internet news to bring me instant updates on the latest news of things that are important to me, such as LED headlamps, hybrid cars, cave related news, certain musical performers, major world breaking news. To me it is not news that "Hillary may or may not stay in race." - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com
