[Texascavers] TCMA says Thanks and Announces New Board Members
TCMA thanks Texas cavers for coming out to another GREAT Texas Cavers Reunion. Our Garage Sale was a big success, thanks to all of you. Your donations and purchases contributed more than $500 for the Deep and Punkin payoff. Breakfast Saturday morning added another $150 to the fund. However the biggest donation to the Deep and Punkin mortgage this weekend was from TSA. The TSA Land Fund will be used to help pay off the mortgage of Deep and Punkin. The payment pushes us closer to full ownership of the cave! Thanks to all for their individual contributions, and to TSA for their donation to the fund, and for their trust in our mission to make sure we have more caves for Texas cavers. We also elected four board members to TCMA for the 2009 to 2011 term, Jim Kennedy, Linda Palit, Joe Ranzau and Geary Schindel. We, and the incumbent board members, Don Arburn, Aimee Beveridge, Allan Cobb, Jon Cradit, Kevin McGowan, Joe Mitchell, William Russell, and Sue Schindel look forward to serving you in the coming year. Good Caving, Linda
Re: [ot_caving] the current financial slump - part of my opinion
The only LOSERS in the blame game, are the ones that don't do anything to effect change. -WaV! On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 9:53 PM, David wrote: > I see people and cavers are finally talking about the economy. > > I don't see any political candidate talking about anything specific > or detailed issue. > > I don't see either candidate, especially their vice presidents as > being good president's, nor being able to turn the financial situation > around in 4 or 8 years. > > I think people are not looking at the big picture and trying to only blame > the bad loans for the crisis. The loans went bad because the > borrowers failed to plan for the potential of inflation, the rising > cost of living etc. > > But the rising cost of living is due to dozens of factors. > > I believe Alan Greenspan purposely lied to everybody the entire > time he was in office. He knew what was really going on in > the world, but it would have wrecked havoc had he told everybody > about it. > > I believe the Baby Boomer Generation is partly to blame.As far back > as the early 60's they were already setting the forces into motion. > > Too many people in our economy are generating money without > actually creating anything. Baseball players, sports announcers, > racecar drivers, tele-evangelist, crack dealers, prostitutes, bank > robbers, tow-truck drivers, lawyers, doctors, politicians, judges, > and even good minded non-profit workers, and the list goes on. > Our economy is interwoven with all of these careers. > > Many americans like myself, have never purchased anything in > their life that was ever made in the U.S.A. All of my disposable > income, goes to Chinese made LED lights and foreign made > gas-sipping cars. I am to blame. > > Bill Gates is to blame. He has put a stranglehold on the > computer industry with his methodology. How can an old > version of Windows in a box sell for $ 299. When a new > version of Linux is practically free? > > Globalization and the war on Globalization has been a negative > effect on the U.S. Economy. How can a factory worker > in the U.S. working under OSHA and EPA, and paying for > health care, compete with a sandal wearing rice-farmer working > in a factory in Yong-Bong-Doh? > > The relentless controversery over abortion is holding America > back like a ball and chain. This is a very inefficient use > of our money. > > The Big 3 are to blame. 30 years of producing crappy > cars and finally the big gas guzzling SUV's. That drove > at least one nail into our coffins if not 2 or 3. > > The media portrayal of George Bush. I heard a person who is unknown ( > at least to > me ) pretending to be a celebrity on the Dave Letterman show, > this week call Bush a "Jackass," or something to that effect.The > media > has never assaulted a president's moral like they have with Bush. This > doesn't help our situation. > > George Bush. He has had a rough presidency. You can't blame > him for 911, or Katrina, or Hurricane Ike. However, he doesn't seem > very presidential now, does he? But I think we can blame him for > not coming out on day one of the war in Iraq, and telling us that this > would cost us billions of dollars, and the loss of 5,000 young americans. > I think if he did, we would have impeached him then just for suggesting > the crazy idea. > > Harley-Davidson is to blame. They have been building expensive, > crappy, noisy, gas guzzling death machines for years, so serious > bikers have > had to turn to Suzuki to get a real road machine - The Suzuki Bergman 650, > or to even BMW. > > Bill Clinton is too blame. Instead of focusing his attention on > helping > americans, he was sliding his penis in and out of the mouth a young intern. > > The terrorist are to blame. They are clearly costing lots of money to > spy on them, and kill them. > > Ronald Reagan is to blame. He told Gorbachev to tear down the wall. > Now all of America wants to spend billions of dollars building our own > wall. > Can't our leaders see that these kind of events are like dominoes in a > domino chain? > > The relationship with industry and unions is to blame. This constant > battle just wrecks havoc on our economy. A person with no skills > on an assembly line does not need to be making $ 30 an hour, nor do > the bosses need to be treating them like slaves. > > The high CEO' packages. This has clearly been a major factor > in he destruction of the free-market economy, which will soon be considered > a theory that didn't work very well. At least one nail in our coffin. > > There are dozens if not hundreds of other factors. > > > I would like to add that my grandparents when they were living in their > house > in the 70's, had no air-conditioning in the heat of Dallas. They never > envisioned > a cell phone, or a fax machine or the internet. How much does the > average > am
[Texascavers] Paging Ann Scott
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[Texascavers] Auction Item for TCR
Unpacking my car - I found a charger that goes with an item I donated to the auction. Afterward, I forgot all about the auction. I don't know if the item sold or not. I would appreciate a response from whomever ended up unsold items, or from the person that bought it - so that I can get the item back together with its charger. -WaV
texascavers Digest 12 Oct 2008 17:51:02 -0000 Issue 625
texascavers Digest 12 Oct 2008 17:51:02 - Issue 625 Topics (messages 9162 through 9165): Desulforudis audaxviator 9162 by: David 9163 by: Louise Power TCR Beer Emergency! 9164 by: Joe Ranzau a LED light review - the Tikkina 9165 by: David Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: -- --- Begin Message --- There is news about a new bacteria discovered at nearly 3 miles below the surface, surviving without an ecosystem and all alone. It is believed to live off of hydrogen and sulfur. http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=5998582&page=1 So did it evolve there? Or has it been there since the Big Bang? Or is it something common to all the planets subsurfaces? How could it have just suddenly appeared, say in the last million years? What purpose does it serve if it is not part of the food chain? Why was it created if it serves no purpose? Could it evolve in another million years to something more complex? Is it our ancestor? Critics are already suggesting that it probably migrated from the surface to that depth over millions of years. If so, why don't we see any missing links in between, for example, in deep caves. Maybe some bio-caver can get a grant out of this? David Locklear ( Friday night, still in Fort Bend County, and hoping to at least make the chow at TCR, but still undecided ) --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- "If so, why don't we see any missing links in between, for example, in deep caves." Maybe nobody has looked in the right deep cave. "What purpose does it serve if it is not part of the food chain? Why was it created if it serves no purpose?: I'm sure it does have a purpose, just like all those other extinct plants, animals, etc, that we've managed to callously exterminate. Just because it doesn't serve man's purpose doesn't mean it doesn't serve a purpose. Just stomp on a butterfly and then come back in 1000 years and see if that butterfly was useless. List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:25:29 -0500From: dlocklear01@gmail.comTo: texascavers@texascavers.comSubject: [Texascavers] Desulforudis audaxviator There is news about a new bacteria discovered at nearly 3 miles below the surface, surviving without an ecosystem and all alone. It is believed to live off of hydrogen and sulfur. http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=5998582&page=1 So did it evolve there? Or has it been there since the Big Bang? Or is it something common to all the planets subsurfaces? How could it have just suddenly appeared, say in the last million years? What purpose does it serve if it is not part of the food chain? Why was it created if it serves no purpose? Could it evolve in another million years to something more complex? Is it our ancestor? Critics are already suggesting that it probably migrated from the surface to that depth over millions of years. If so, why don't we see any missing links in between, for example, in deep caves. Maybe some bio-caver can get a grant out of this? David Locklear ( Friday night, still in Fort Bend County, and hoping to at least make the chow at TCR, but still undecided )--- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- Our keg taps don't work! Are you coming out late? Call 512-694-5433 or 210-289-6839 to help! We have arrangements done, we just need a driver! Joe j...@oztotl.com Sent while mobile --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- I won a door prize this year at TCR. It was a Tikkina headlamp. http://www.campmor.com/images/lights/larger/37764_l.jpg I would like to say thank you to Whole Earth for donating all the cool prizes this year. The Tikkina's number one feature is that it is lightweight. This headlamp would probably work excellent in "Airman's Cave." The Tikkina is not a suitable caving headlamp for wet caves, or large cave passage, and certainly not for really big caves. The Tikkina would be handy on an overnight hiking trip, and to use around in your tent. For $ 23, you could buy a better LED headlamp. I don't like the switch, and that you can't dim the light, or temporarily make it brighter. I know cavers take lamps like the Tikkina and attach them to the helmet above, or to the side of their primary light. That would be fine if you plan to go to a dry cave.I will let somebody who does that say more about the advantages and disadvantages of doing that. The Tikkina is sold at many outdoor retailers. I bet Academy even sells it. In my opinion, the Tikkina and similar lights need to be more rugged. Perhaps, they could make the helmet bracket out of stainless steel, or put a rubber coating around it somehow. I am only going to give it 1 star out of 5. On a related note, My theory is that tiny lamps like this wil
[Texascavers] a LED light review - the Tikkina
I won a door prize this year at TCR. It was a Tikkina headlamp. http://www.campmor.com/images/lights/larger/37764_l.jpg I would like to say thank you to Whole Earth for donating all the cool prizes this year. The Tikkina's number one feature is that it is lightweight. This headlamp would probably work excellent in "Airman's Cave." The Tikkina is not a suitable caving headlamp for wet caves, or large cave passage, and certainly not for really big caves. The Tikkina would be handy on an overnight hiking trip, and to use around in your tent. For $ 23, you could buy a better LED headlamp. I don't like the switch, and that you can't dim the light, or temporarily make it brighter. I know cavers take lamps like the Tikkina and attach them to the helmet above, or to the side of their primary light. That would be fine if you plan to go to a dry cave.I will let somebody who does that say more about the advantages and disadvantages of doing that. The Tikkina is sold at many outdoor retailers. I bet Academy even sells it. In my opinion, the Tikkina and similar lights need to be more rugged. Perhaps, they could make the helmet bracket out of stainless steel, or put a rubber coating around it somehow. I am only going to give it 1 star out of 5. On a related note, My theory is that tiny lamps like this will be more practical someday when the capacity of triple-A batteries becomes greater.Also, if LED lights ever get more efficient; then this style of headlamp will become more suitable for caving. David Locklear
