[ot_caving] Poem for Palin
Sarah Palin, a lipstick pig Obama didnt, but I just did Crystal Meth state, Mayor of six This is who the Elephant picks Bridge to Nowhere, that's her career Thanks, But No Thanks, it just ain't your year This job's too big for this mom to handle Life too full of its own SCANDALS... (Wish I could claim it) -WaV
RE: [ot_caving] Poem for Palin
It ain't that good and not very poetic. I wouldn't claim it. Fritz From: Don Cooper [mailto:wavyca...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 12:28 AM To: Off Topic Subject: [ot_caving] Poem for Palin Sarah Palin, a lipstick pig Obama didnt, but I just did Crystal Meth state, Mayor of six This is who the Elephant picks Bridge to Nowhere, that's her career Thanks, But No Thanks, it just ain't your year This job's too big for this mom to handle Life too full of its own SCANDALS... (Wish I could claim it) -WaV
texascavers Digest 31 Oct 2008 15:48:18 -0000 Issue 636
texascavers Digest 31 Oct 2008 15:48:18 - Issue 636 Topics (messages 9288 through 9299): Re: TSA Officers 9288 by: Ron Ralph OT-Austin Halloween Party 9289 by: Denise P 9290 by: Denise P cave restoration proposed in Veracruz 9291 by: Mixon Bill 9292 by: Nico Escamilla 9293 by: Fofo 9294 by: Nico Escamilla Chris Thibodaux 9295 by: dirtdoc.comcast.net Robber Baron Celebration November 8 9 9296 by: Linda Palit RB Website wrong again 9297 by: Linda Palit A hopeful note re WNS 9298 by: CaverArch 9299 by: Jim Kennedy Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- As Linda Palit said a few days ago: You should be receiving your TSA ballot for 2009 officers if you did not vote at TCR. We tried to have some people vote at TCR, and to keep the records so that we would not have to be spending on so much money on mailings. If you do not receive a ballot in the next couple of days, and you feel you need one, please email me with all of your mailing information. Other complaints or comments may be sent this way also, but I may or may not be the one who can help. Please drop you cards in the mail as soon as possible, but they must be postmarked by November 10th to count. I will count all ballots postmarked November 10 or before. Ron _ From: Denise P [mailto:pepabe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:57 AM To: 'TexasCavers' Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TSA Officers We got our ballot yesterday and it said it must be postmarked by the previous Monday to be valid. I assume that's not true? -Denise ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Put on your costume and join us ghouls for a scary and enthralling Halloween Party! Where: 4811 Duval St., Austin TX (Wes and David's/ Bev's) When: 31 October, Friday, 8pm till ? What: Party, with campfire, grill, coolers - please bring a dish/drink if you canHosts: Wes and David Cheers,Denise ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Oops, meant to mention that this is the same party that was planned to be at Jean and Viv's but was recently relocated... -Denise From: pepabelly@hotmail.comTo: texascavers@texascavers.comDate: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:25:41 +Subject: [Texascavers] OT-Austin Halloween Party Put on your costume and join us ghouls for a scary and enthralling Halloween Party! Where: 4811 Duval St., Austin TX (Wes and David's/ Bev's)When: 31 October, Friday, 8pm till ?What: Party, with campfire, grill, coolers - please bring a dish/drink if you canHosts: Wes and David Cheers,Denise ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Sergio Humberto Aguilar Rodríguez (aguilar.ser...@gmail.com) is proposing to restore a volcanic cave in Xalapa, Veracruz, as a tourist attraction. Knowing of the work that Texas cavers have done in Bustamante, NL, he contacted the AMCS to find out if anyone has suggestions or advice. In particular, contact info for cavers in that area would probably be most useful. I am appending his proposal; Google does an apparently decent job of translating it, if necessary. -- Mixon --- PROGRAMA DE RESCATE DE LA CUEVA DE LA ORQUÍDEA, XALAPA, VER. La llamada cueva de la Orquídea, ubicada en la avenida Miguel Alemán a la altura de la subestación de la Comisión Federal de Electricidad. Esta cueva fue rehabilitada en 1996 por el H. Ayuntamiento de Xalapa en conjunto con la organización Espeleover, A.C. extinta actualmente. La cueva está formada por piedra de origen volcánico y el edificio formado data de 30,000 años atrás y está asociada con la erupción del Cerro Macuiltépetl. Hoy por hoy la cueva se encuentra cerrada al público. Desde hace 5 años el Patronato para el Parque Ecológico Macuiltépetl, A.C. trabaja con los jardineros de la cueva para el remozamiento del jardín ubicado en la parte superior y colabora en el mantenimiento de una pequeña población de Tilcampos o iguana negra (Ctenosaura similis) que se mantiene en el área. El 5 de febrero del año 2007 el Patronato para el Parque Ecológico Macuiltépetl, A.C. propuso su reapertura al Gobernador del Estado y al Alcalde de Xalapa, a lo que se recibió respuesta positiva. Actualmente se está trabajando en un dictámen técnico para poder recibir grupos guiados a la misma que permitan enriquecer las actividades turísticas de Xalapa, creando un corredor ecoturístico que se prolongue desde el Cerro de la Galaxia, pase por el Museo de Antropología, siga hacia el Parque Ecológico Macuiltépetl, incluyendo el área arqueológica aledaña y termine precisamente en la Cueva de la
[NMCAVER] More on Tianxing in China
Here is some more on Tianxing in China. It�s old news for those of you at the NSS convention in Florida. It�s still a fine hole, with more to come. Hong Meigui group continues to explore some of the greatest caves in the world. The Brit news articles (cropping up in British papers this week) get low marks for fact checking. Check out the Hong Meigui web site: http://www.hongmeigui.net/ DirtDoc X From Erin Lynch and Duncan Collis at http://www.hongmeigui.net/ Despite reports to the contrary, the system is still 1020m deep (deepest in China, but certainly not the deepest in the world), Miao Keng's surveyed vertical extent is 500m, and the British team has included cavers from about a dozen countries over the years. We're planning to continue exploration in Tianxing in September/October 2009. The Daily Mail: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1081666/Dont-look-Climbers-explor e-murky-abyss-3-100ft-deep-underground-shaft-China.html The Telegraph: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/3284948/Climbers-explore-on e-of-worlds-deepest-underground-shafts.html ___ NMCAVER mailing list nmca...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/nmcaver_caver.net
[Texascavers] More on Tianxing in China
Here is some more on Tianxing in China. It�s old news for those of you at the NSS convention in Florida. It�s still a fine hole, with more to come. Hong Meigui group continues to explore some of the greatest caves in the world. The Brit news articles (cropping up in British papers this week) get low marks for fact checking. Check out the Hong Meigui web site: http://www.hongmeigui.net/ DirtDoc X From Erin Lynch and Duncan Collis at http://www.hongmeigui.net/ Despite reports to the contrary, the system is still 1020m deep (deepest in China, but certainly not the deepest in the world), Miao Keng's surveyed vertical extent is 500m, and the British team has included cavers from about a dozen countries over the years. We're planning to continue exploration in Tianxing in September/October 2009. The Daily Mail: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1081666/Dont-look-Climbers-explor e-murky-abyss-3-100ft-deep-underground-shaft-China.html The Telegraph: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/3284948/Climbers-explore-on e-of-worlds-deepest-underground-shafts.html
[ot_caving] Halloween Earthquake this AM near Dallas
USGS reported that just after midnight, a 2.6 magnitude earthquake was recorded. Epicenter - almost dead center between Dallas and Fort Worth. Spooky. -WaV
Re: [ot_caving] Halloween Earthquake this AM near Dallas
Details: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/103108dnmetearthquake.167675aa4.html On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:01 AM, Don Cooper wavyca...@gmail.com wrote: USGS reported that just after midnight, a 2.6 magnitude earthquake was recorded. Epicenter - almost dead center between Dallas and Fort Worth. Spooky. -WaV
Re: [ot_caving] Halloween Earthquake this AM near Dallas
Thanks for the info! There were at least two within 30 miles of Palmer/Wasilla when I was up in Alaska summer before last that were close to that magnitude - I didnt feel them at all. -Don C On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.orgwrote: Details: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/103108dnmetearthquake.167675aa4.html On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:01 AM, Don Cooper wavyca...@gmail.com wrote: USGS reported that just after midnight, a 2.6 magnitude earthquake was recorded. Epicenter - almost dead center between Dallas and Fort Worth. Spooky. -WaV
[ot_caving] Re: Halloween Earthquake this AM near Dallas
More info: http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/last_event_states/states_texas.html On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:01 AM, Don Cooper wavyca...@gmail.com wrote: USGS reported that just after midnight, a 2.6 magnitude earthquake was recorded. Epicenter - almost dead center between Dallas and Fort Worth. Spooky. -WaV
[Texascavers] A hopeful note re WNS
Posted on TAG-NET: 1) Article Bat Death Mystery Solved By: Paul Aughey (Atlanta, Georgia) It sounds like there may have been a break in the explanation of white nose syndrome. Bat Death Mystery Solved By Jeanna Bryner, Senior Writer http://www.livescience.com/animals/081030-bat-fungus.html -Paul Roger Moore, GHG
[Texascavers] RE: A hopeful note re WNS
Too bad TAG-Net only comes out once a day. Here is what I posted there (which hasn’t come out yet) after Aughey’s recent post: Ah, wouldn’t we all hope that were the case! Alas, it is not. Granted, this is another piece of the puzzle, but even more so it is a glaring case of the media taking a single report and blowing out of proportion to the context, much like the recently-touted “barotrauma” ballyhoo regarding bats and wind turbines. I just got back from the North American Symposium for Bat Research where both topics received the lion’s share of attention, and believe me, we are a long way from resolution on either. Jim “Crash” Kennedy, 26791FL Cave Resources Specialist Bat Conservation International jkenn...@batcon.org From: CaverArch [mailto:cavera...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 10:33 AM To: texas cavers Subject: [Texascavers] A hopeful note re WNS Posted on TAG-NET: 1) Article Bat Death Mystery Solved By: Paul Aughey (Atlanta, Georgia) It sounds like there may have been a break in the explanation of white nose syndrome. Bat Death Mystery Solved By Jeanna Bryner, Senior Writer http://www.livescience.com/animals/081030-bat-fungus.html -Paul Roger Moore, GHG
[Texascavers] Re: A hopeful note re WNS
Roger said It sounds like there may have been a break in the explanation of white nose syndrome. Cautious optimisum is resulting from the recent conference. Please see today's updates to the WNS pages on the NSS Web site (link near the bottom of the home page...). Alex -- Alex Sproul NSS 8086RL/FE NSS Webmaster - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] Re: A hopeful note re WNS
Roger said It sounds like there may have been a break in the explanation of white nose syndrome. Cautious optimisum is resulting from the recent conference. Please see today's updates to the WNS pages on the NSS Web site (link near the bottom of the home page...). Alex -- Alex Sproul NSS 8086RL/FE NSS Webmaster - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[ot_caving] another cheap LED flashlight review
Sears has a new cheap flashlight that I have been wanting to test. http://www.dorcy.com/products.aspx?p=412495 So I traded in my last purchase for it. It is a Dorcy product, and the label says HIGH PERFORMANCE L.E.D. The product looks good on the outside for a flashlight under $ 15. It has a very interesting hole on the end for hanging, and also a fold-out carabiner. This part is a good design. The flashlight did not work straight out the box. I had to diagnose it, and bend a tap that connects the switch to the headpiece.This took a while to figure out. The light pattern was one of the worst I have seen on an LED light. The light claims to float, but only looked water-resistant. If it were not for the poor light pattern, I would recommend this light for newbies to take to caves where there is walking passage as light to carry inside of their cavepacks. I would have also recommended it for camping or overnight hikes, but I can't. The flashlight is very lightweight, but large. For its size, it could accomodate much larger batteries or more batteries. This flashlight was first designed as a halogen light, and it only has a LED module in it. That is good in that you can easily replace the module. I suspect the flashlight would survive a 3 foot drop test or maybe even higher. It is too bad the light pattern sucked. It does shine a long spotlight for a 1/2 watt light, so you could use it to shine light up into a dome or a pit. The switch does seem more rugged than other lights in the $ 15 price range. I don't see an easy way to modify the lens to diffuse the light? David - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com
[ot_caving] lithium-ion batteries
This is probably old news to those of you who use gadgets with lithium-ion batteries. One of my favorite flashlights is my old Inova T4. It uses a proprietary lithium-ion battery pack. Unfortunately, I haven't used it in a few months, and I let it become discharged. The battery is dead. I think I have had it about 2 years now, but maybe longer. http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-25924480583388_2023_25554487 According to one web-site: Some lithium-ion batteries fail due to excessive low discharge. If discharged below 2.5 volts per cell, the internal safety circuit opens and the battery appears dead. A charge with the original charger is no longer possible. Some battery analyzers (Cadex) feature a boost function that reactivates the protection circuit of a failed battery and enables a recharge. However, if the cell voltage has fallen below 1.5V/cell and has remained in that state for a few months, a recharge should be avoided because of safety concerns. To prevent failure, never store the battery fully discharged. Apply some charge before storage, and then charge fully before use. My battery can only be ordered online and cost over $ 31.00 ( not very practical for caving, Right? ) David - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com
[ot_caving] LED worklight
Here is a very expensive light for having around camp for cooking or for working on your car. http://s.sears.com/is/image/Sears/00928103000?qlt=90,0resMode=sharpop_usm=0.9,0.5,0,0 The light, the charger, and the lithium-ion battery cost $ 140 plus tax at Sears, and each appears to be sold separately. Since the battery is 20 volts, the LED's are possibly pushed to their maximum output. I will not be testing this one. Would someone else like to give it a try? For $ 140, it should light up your whole campsite pretty good. Right? I would also think you would get 2 or 3 nights of light on a single charge. It probably doesn't weigh as much as other worklights, so it would be more portable. David - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com
[ot_caving] Koehler Lighting Cap Lamps
http://www.coaleducation.org/technology/Safety/images/model-5200.jpg http://www.goodtradeusa.com/koehler.php Mark V (5200 Series) 5200 Series Cap Lamps feature a smaller, Lexan headpiece which provides high impact resistance and a lighter weight. Also features a fully focusable dual filament Xenon bulb and a slide type connection of head-piece to charger. a.. Ejection mechanism for bulb b.. Locking plate over battery connectors c.. Bezel Lock d.. Focusing Spot to Flood e.. Superior Impact Resistance f.. Non-Conductive Battery Top g.. 1 year warranty h.. 3 - 4+ year battery life Koehler Wheat Cap Lamps are approved for use in methane-air atmospheres by the U.S. Mine Safety and Health Administration (MSHA). Mark V Wheat Cap Lamps feature an intrinsically-safe battery, a specially-designed highly flexible cord, and a dual filament Xenon bulb with both filaments fully focusable. A single knob controls all switch and focusing functions. Lamps are charged through their headpieces. Find out more about Koehler lights at: http://www.koehlerlighting.com/about-us.asp
[ot_caving] Gills reply THE COLONEL AND LINCOLN
Thanks for the reply to the hate mail. And if the same stuff had been sent for McCain I would still call it hate mail! I think it is actionable. Quinta
Re: [ot_caving] Gills reply THE COLONEL AND LINCOLN
Who was that Colonel? Colonel Linguist? A fine southern gentlemen - appreciated by almost all the southern belles in small doses. -WaV On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Quinta Wilkinson qui...@clearwire.netwrote: Thanks for the reply to the hate mail. And if the same stuff had been sent for McCain I would still call it hate mail! I think it is actionable. Quinta
[Texascavers] lava tube caves on Mercury?
Is anybody looking at the new photos of Mercury for lava tube caves? - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] lava tube caves on Mercury?
Sounds like the perfect job for an armchair-caver David Scott --- On Fri, 10/31/08, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: From: David dlocklea...@gmail.com Subject: [Texascavers] lava tube caves on Mercury? To: Texascavers Mailing List texascavers@texascavers.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 3:58 PM Is anybody looking at the new photos of Mercury for lava tube caves? - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[ot_caving] other topics?
Since everybody appears to have LED update fatigue, I need to find some new exciting topics to report about. How about: 1.A comparison of Erectile Dysfunction medications? 2.Or a restaurant review of Kerrville restaurants? Any other ideas? David - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [ot_caving] other topics?
Delete button instructions? -Original Message- From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 3:06 PM To: o...@texascavers.com Subject: [ot_caving] other topics? Since everybody appears to have LED update fatigue, I need to find some new exciting topics to report about. How about: 1.A comparison of Erectile Dysfunction medications? 2.Or a restaurant review of Kerrville restaurants? Any other ideas? David - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [ot_caving] other topics?
Wouldn't it just be more productive to find a job so you didn't have so much spare time on your hands? Oh wait! That would probably interfere with your blogging and your junior college classes. My bad! From: fh...@townandcountryins.com To: dlocklea...@gmail.com; o...@texascavers.com Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:54:49 -0500 Subject: RE: [ot_caving] other topics? Delete button instructions? -Original Message- From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 3:06 PM To: o...@texascavers.com Subject: [ot_caving] other topics? Since everybody appears to have LED update fatigue, I need to find some new exciting topics to report about. How about: 1. A comparison of Erectile Dysfunction medications? 2. Or a restaurant review of Kerrville restaurants? Any other ideas? David - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com
