[SWR] Fw: NSS Conservation Network
- Forwarded Message From: Steve Smith stevenlsm...@usa.net To: stevenlsm...@usa.net Sent: Sat, May 7, 2011 9:22:20 AM Subject: NSS Conservation Network From Jim Werker and Val Hildreth-Werker, NSS Conservation Division Co-Chairs (through the NSS Conservation Network - Steve Smith, Coordinator): We just received this information from Peter Youngbaer, NSS WNS Liaison, who requested that it be sent out on the NSS Conservation Network (NSSCN). Please pass the word out to the folks within your IO. Thanks! Jim Val . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dear NSS Members, We need your help to contact your U.S. Senators about research funding for White Nose Syndrome as soon as possible. A sign-on letter initiated by Sen. Lautenberg, NJ and Sen. Leahy, VT, is being circulated now, requesting that members join them in asking for $10.8 M in funding for WNS. ACTION: Please contact your Senator's office and ask them to sign on to Sen. Lautenberg's and Leahy's WNS letter. If any of the offices agree to sign on please let me know at wnsliai...@caves.org, so that we can take them off the list. Contact information for your Senators is here: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm Please call the Washington, D.C. phone number as ask to speak with the staff person who handles Environmental affairs for the Senator. If you have a personal contact, use that instead. Why is this important, and why now? Congress has just returned after a recess, and all the appropriations requests from members are being taken at this time. The approach we are supporting is a significant change from prior efforts, in that funding would be given to a variety of federal agencies, not just U.S. Fish and Wildlife. This will help bring a more balanced approach to WNS activities. As you know, this is an extremely difficult time for any federal funding. Without research that can help us answer questions about WNS, we will continue to see management decisions based on hopeful prevention strategies and speculation. For details on the collaborative budgetary initiative, please review this testimony, prepared by a number of organizations, including the NSS, and delivered by BCI's Executive Director, Nina Fascione: http://www.caves.org/WNS/BCI%20House%20Int%20Approps%204-15-11%20Final.pdf To help you speak with confidence and knowledge about the NSS and our involvement in the WNS effort, please refer to this document: http://www.caves.org/WNS/The%20NSS%20and%20WNS%20final.pdf ACTION: Please make your contacts now. We are looking for as many Senate signers as possible by Tuesday. ACTION: Please feel free to forward this message to any other lists. Thank you, Peter Youngbaer wnsliai...@caves.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . In my never-ending quest to keep the NSSCN E-Mail addressee list as current as possible, I'd appreciate it greatly if each IO would send me their druthers on who within the IO they'd like to receive this info. Usually, this info should go to the IO Conservation Chair, for subsequent forwarding out to their respective membership. If the IO does not have a designated Conservation Chair, then this info should go to the overall IO Chair. Please send me any addressee changes/updates due to IO internal elections, folks moving out of town, etc. Thanks! Steve Smith, NSSCN coordinator ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
[SWR] Lechuguilla Cave 3-D photo exhibit
From: http://www.currentargus.com/ci_18018457 CARLSBAD — Lechuguilla Cave is part of the larger cave system that includes Carlsbad Caverns. I guess I am unaware of the recent connection.:-) Lee Skinner ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
[Texascavers] Mammoth Cave National Park taking steps to prevent spread of WNS
They are using bio mats. Anybody know what chemicals are in them? See the article http://www.mlive.com/outdoors/index.ssf/2011/05/mammoth_cave_national_park_tak.html by Victor Skinner (no relation to me). Lee Skinner - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [SWR] Mammoth Cave National Park taking steps to prevent spread of WNS
On 5/8/2011 9:35:16 AM, Lee H. Skinner (skin...@thuntek.net) wrote: They are using bio mats. Anybody know what chemicals are in them? See the article http://www.mlive.com/outdoors/index. ssf/2011/05/mammoth_cave_national_park_tak.html Probably quats (quaternary ammonium compounds). See the Mammoth Cave WNS management plan: http://www.nps.gov/maca/parkmgmt/loader.cfm?csModule=security/getfilePageID=330269 Starting on page 38, there's a protocol for General Walking Tours. Quats are commonly employed in cleaning footwear in order to control spread of pathogens, and have demonstrated activity on spores of G. destructans- a bit surprising, as quats are generally not effective on spores. -AJHicks Chandler, AZ ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
[Texascavers] Bexar Grotto program announcement...
At tomorrow's Bexar Grotto meeting, Alan Montemayor will be presenting slides of his recent trip, where he and his wife Cheryl Hamilton spent 49 days in South Africa, Lesotho, Swaziland, Botswana, and Namibia. They did a self-drive safari in 4WD Toyota pickup trucks equipped with rooftop tents. Along the way, they visited shelter caves in Lesotho and Namibia that contained rock art from ancient Africans, visited Kruger National Game Park in South Africa , Etosha Game Park in Namibia , the red sand dunes of the Namib Desert and Fish Canyon (the Grand Canyon of Namibia). We can expect to see photos of wild animals including Lion, Leopard, Cheetah, Elephant, Cape Buffalo, Rhinoceros, Hippopotamus, Giraffe, Ostrich, Hyena, Zebra, Kudu, Wildebeest, Warthog, and many other hoofed beasts. A good time will be had by all in attendance...the Bexar Grotto meets at Chester's Hamburgers (NW corner of Hwy 281 and Thousand Oaks Dr) at 7:00 pm on the second and fourth Monday of each month. -Tom
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texascavers Digest 8 May 2011 22:35:38 -0000 Issue 1306
texascavers Digest 8 May 2011 22:35:38 - Issue 1306 Topics (messages 17730 through 17735): Re: more Cookout stuff 17730 by: David Camera related 17731 by: dlocklear01.gmail.com Mammoth Cave National Park taking steps to prevent spread of WNS 17732 by: Lee H. Skinner Cave happenings in Carlsbad 17733 by: George Veni Bexar Grotto program announcement... 17734 by: Tom Florer Re: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links page. 17735 by: Butch Fralia Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- Any caver who goes caving on Saturday morning, May 21, and can get to Camp Happy Hollow by 9 p.m., we will save you some food. You will get in free and a hot shower will be waiting for you.I will have some extra cots, and and a roof over your head. Also, any cavers travelling from West Texas, Lubbock, Wichita Falls, out-of-state, etc. will get in free. Anyone with a valid excuse to get in free, just let me know. ( Like you shot Bin Laden or something, equivalent, or discovered the cure for WNS, etc. ) There may be a mid-night movie and popcorn to watch in the lodge. Hopefully there will be a blender and a table with a few beverages. I doubt we will run out of wine, or soft-drinks. If anybody wants to bring milk and cereal for breakfast Sunday morning, that would be appreciated. We might have a raffle.( definitely not an iPad 2, but something cool ) Most people will leave Saturday night and the rest very early on Sunday morning. But I plan to be there most of the day on Sunday, so please let me know if you can come out Sunday only, and maybe we can throw something on the grill. Please add the link below to your Facebook wall, or pass it along: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=198886710150583 David Locklear ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Best Buy has the Sony a230 camera on clearance for only $ 360. Looks like a good bargain for a caving camera. No idea if that is every store or just the one I am at. The additional flash is $ 130. I think telephoto lens is $ 250 And another $ 250 for a 16 mm lens David Locklear Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- They are using bio mats. Anybody know what chemicals are in them? See the article http://www.mlive.com/outdoors/index.ssf/2011/05/mammoth_cave_national_park_tak.html by Victor Skinner (no relation to me). Lee Skinner ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Here are a couple of news stories from Carlsbad: Unveiling of the Jim White sculpture: http://www.currentargus.com/ci_18013872?IADID=Search-www.currentargus.com-ww w.currentargus.com Opening of the Underground of Enchantment Lechuguilla Cave 3D photo exhibit: http://www.currentargus.com/ci_18018457 I don't recall seeing either on the Texas list (and Texans were spotted at both events) and I only recall the report on the Lech exhibit on the New Mexico list. George ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- At tomorrow's Bexar Grotto meeting, Alan Montemayor will be presenting slides of his recent trip, where he and his wife Cheryl Hamilton spent 49 days in South Africa, Lesotho, Swaziland, Botswana, and Namibia. They did a self-drive safari in 4WD Toyota pickup trucks equipped with rooftop tents. Along the way, they visited shelter caves in Lesotho and Namibia that contained rock art from ancient Africans, visited Kruger National Game Park in South Africa , Etosha Game Park in Namibia , the red sand dunes of the Namib Desert and Fish Canyon (the Grand Canyon of Namibia). We can expect to see photos of wild animals including Lion, Leopard, Cheetah, Elephant, Cape Buffalo, Rhinoceros, Hippopotamus, Giraffe, Ostrich, Hyena, Zebra, Kudu, Wildebeest, Warthog, and many other hoofed beasts. A good time will be had by all in attendance...the Bexar Grotto meets at Chester's Hamburgers (NW corner of Hwy 281 and Thousand Oaks Dr) at 7:00 pm on the second and fourth Monday of each month. -Tom ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Does this name ring a bell with anyone? From: Wanda L. Drisoll [mailto:wdrisc1...@suddenlink.net] Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 4:54 PM To: bfra...@maverickgrotto.org Subject: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links page. I am seeking information regarding the death of a cave explorer in the 1970's, maybe in Hays or Kendall County. Could you share any information with me regarding the decedent, james Beall? ---End Message---
Re: [Texascavers] FW: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave rel...
Excerpted from Fifty Years of Texas Caving, p. 358 : Jim Beall was a student from Galveston and died in Fair Oaks Pit in Kendall County. He had problems getting up the 60 ft entrance pit and fell to the bottom and then rolled down a steep slope and fell into the second pit that was 50 ft deep. He was able to communicate with his companions at the surface and his initial injuries were believed to be serious but survivable. Local firemen were summoned and strapped him to a wooden backboard and began hoisting him up the drops using a manila rope and steel cable from a tow truck with a powerful winch. Communications were poor. At the top of the second drop, the backboard hung up, and continued pulling snapped the manila rope. More force was applied and the cable tore through the attachment on the backboard, thereby dropping the victim down the 50 ft pit once more. The cumulative effects from both falls proved fatal. Jerry. Bibliography: Anonymous. [1976]. Cave trek ends in death. Austin American-Statesman, [n.d.], p. A8. Iliffe, Tom. 1976. Accident report. Texas Caver, 21:70. Knutson, Steve. 1981. American caving accidents 1976 through 1979. NSS News, 39(5, part 2):i-ii + A1-A82. Kunath, Carl. E. 2007. Fifty Years of Texas Caving, San Angelo, TX, A K Enterprises, 526 pp. In a message dated 5/8/2011 7:13:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, fr...@frankbinney.com writes: I recall news stories of a “spelunker”, who wasn’t affiliated with any Texas caving group, falling while trying to hand over hand a rope in the pit entrance of a small Hays County cave in the 1970s. Maybe it was the decedent in question. Poor guy apparently fractured his spine in his fall and the local volunteer fire department tried to bring him to the surface without a backboard or other c-spine stabilization. Victim was dead when they got him out, whether from the original fall or the rescue wasn’t stated. -Frank On 5/8/11 3:38 PM, Butch Fralia _bfralia@maverickgrotto.org_ (mip://02f6b288/bfra...@maverickgrotto.org) wrote: Does this name ring a bell with anyone? From: Wanda L. Drisoll [_mailto:wdrisc1941@suddenlink.net_ (mailto:wdrisc1...@suddenlink.net) ] Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 4:54 PM To: _bfralia@maverickgrotto.org_ (mip://02f6b288/bfra...@maverickgrotto.org) Subject: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links page. I am seeking information regarding the death of a cave explorer in the 1970's, maybe in Hays or Kendall County. Could you share any information with me regarding the decedent, james Beall?
[SWR] GCC Trip Announcement - May 20-22
Hello Cavers, The next dig weekend at Grand Canyon Caverns will happen on the weekend of May 20-22. Please spread to word to all interested parties. Cavers will begin arriving Friday evening, and we'll work until midday Sunday. If you're interested in helping out, please email me and let me know when you intend to be there. I need an RSVP by 4PM Monday, May 16th. If you have any questions, shoot me an email. I hope to see you there, -Rich ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
[SWR] 3D slide program on Lech Thursday
Peter and Ann Bosted will be presenting a special 3-D slide show on Lechuguilla Cave at the Carlsbad Museum (Fox street between Halagueno and Alameda) at 7 PM on Thursday, May 12, at 7 PM. Tell a friend, bring a friend! ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
[Texascavers] Facebook related
Facebook has taken over e-mail for communicating with groups like caving clubs. It is so easy to create a new group: http://www.facebook.com/groups All the latest smartphones and tablets are Facebook friendly. It is hard to say where this is all heading. But after playing with Facebook on a 7 tablet with wireless broadband service ( 4G ), it seems to have a bright future for several years to come. Having your caving group communicate this way instead of say Yahoo Groups, or a list-serve ( like this one ) is much more efficient.There is more info readily available, and instant chat is integrated into the service. There is a bright side to all of this.I will be doing less posting on CaveTex. David Locklear P.S. My prediction is, the next big thing in Tablets is the ability to get their broadband in remote areas. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] FW: Arthropod Sampling and Archaeological Feature Mapping of Easter Island Caves (24 July - 08 August 2011)
For more information, please contact Jut Wynne directly at the address below. Feel free to distribute this information to others who may be interested. Thanks, George *** George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 413-383-2276 gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.org - 2011 Rapa Nui Expedition- Arthropod Sampling and Archaeological Feature Mapping of Easter Island Caves (24 July - 08 August 2011) We are seeking volunteer cartographers and archaeologists to assist in a biological and cultural resource inventory project on Easter Island (AKA Rapa Nui). Our objectives are as follows: (1) Set bait traps and search for cave-adapted insects in the four deepest caves on the island; (2) Revise cave habitat maps from 2009 expedition; and, (3) Map cave and archaeological features in the largest known cave on the island (which incidentally contains the greatest number of structures and is the most visited cave by tourists). Minimum requirements: Excellent physical condition; team-player; willingness to work long hours underground only to return to an evening of working on maps and other related expedition tasks; must be a skilled cartographer and/ or highly experienced sketching archaeological features; at minimum American Red Cross First Aid/ CPR certified. Volunteers will be responsible for all expenses. Total costs estimated ~5,100.00 Trip Overview: 24 July - Depart U.S. 25 July - Arrive Santiago/ Depart-Arrive Rapa Nui 26 July - Orientation 27 July - Deploy baits in four caves 28-29 July - Revise habitat maps ~10 caves. 30 July - 03 August - Map cave and archaeological features 04-05 August - Check baits/ Collect Arthropods/ Pull Baits 06 August - Process arthropods/ Pack 07 August - Depart Rapa Nui 08 August - Arrive US Airfare: USA-Santiago, Chile-Rapa Nui ~2,700.00 USD. Accommodations/ Food: Unfortunately, there are few camping opportunities on Rapa Nui, and we will have a lot of gear that will need to be secured. We will either stay in a hotel or rent a house (I'm currently working on both options). A 13-night hotel stay will be around 1,400.00 USD, but includes 3 meals/ day. Renting a house will be cheaper (stand by for price), but we'd be responsible for all meals. Rental Truck/ Gas: Team members will split the cost of a truck for the duration on the island. ~600.00 USD (estimated) Global Rescue Travel Insurance (required): Short-term membership. 119.00 USD. Immunizations (required): Hepatitis A B ~100.00 USD. Tourism Entry Fee into Chile (required): ~150.00 USD. Technical Equipment/Skills: There will be no vertical work on this trip. Explorers Club Flag Expedition: We will submit an application for this project to become an EC Flag Expedition (URL: http://www.explorers.org/index.php/expe ... g_the_flag). Anyone participating in an EC flag expeditions is eligible for consideration for membership into The Explorers Club. The last two expeditions to Rapa Nui were flag expeditions. If interested, please email Jut Wynne at jut.wy...@nau.edu. Please be prepared to send a current CV and contact names, phone numbers and email addresses of three professional references. Maururu roa nui! /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^ /|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\ J. Judson Wynne http://jutwynne.com http://sbsc.wr.usgs.gov/cprs/research/projects/caves/research.asp 928.863.8628 (mobile) 928.523.7757 (office) 928.556.9111 (fax) Colorado Plateau Research Station Northern Arizona University Box 5614, Building 56, Suite 150 Flagstaff, Arizona 86011 /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^ /|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\
[Texascavers] FW: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links page.
Does this name ring a bell with anyone? From: Wanda L. Drisoll [mailto:wdrisc1...@suddenlink.net] Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 4:54 PM To: bfra...@maverickgrotto.org Subject: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links page. I am seeking information regarding the death of a cave explorer in the 1970's, maybe in Hays or Kendall County. Could you share any information with me regarding the decedent, james Beall?
RE: [Texascavers] FW: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links page.
Jim Beall was a Bexar Grotto member in the late 80's and I think the early 90s. As I recall, he moved out of state but I don't recall where. Linda Palit may know more. George From: Butch Fralia [mailto:bfra...@maverickgrotto.org] Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 16:39 To: 'texas cavers' Subject: [Texascavers] FW: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links page. Does this name ring a bell with anyone? From: Wanda L. Drisoll [mailto:wdrisc1...@suddenlink.net] Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 4:54 PM To: bfra...@maverickgrotto.org Subject: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links page. I am seeking information regarding the death of a cave explorer in the 1970's, maybe in Hays or Kendall County. Could you share any information with me regarding the decedent, james Beall?
Re: [Texascavers] FW: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links page.
I recall news stories of a ³spelunker², who wasn¹t affiliated with any Texas caving group, falling while trying to hand over hand a rope in the pit entrance of a small Hays County cave in the 1970s. Maybe it was the decedent in question. Poor guy apparently fractured his spine in his fall and the local volunteer fire department tried to bring him to the surface without a backboard or other c-spine stabilization. Victim was dead when they got him out, whether from the original fall or the rescue wasn¹t stated. -Frank On 5/8/11 3:38 PM, Butch Fralia bfra...@maverickgrotto.org wrote: Does this name ring a bell with anyone? From: Wanda L. Drisoll [mailto:wdrisc1...@suddenlink.net] Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 4:54 PM To: bfra...@maverickgrotto.org Subject: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links page. I am seeking information regarding the death of a cave explorer in the 1970's, maybe in Hays or Kendall County. Could you share any information with me regarding the decedent, james Beall?
[Texascavers] Cave happenings in Carlsbad
Here are a couple of news stories from Carlsbad: Unveiling of the Jim White sculpture: http://www.currentargus.com/ci_18013872?IADID=Search-www.currentargus.com-ww w.currentargus.com Opening of the Underground of Enchantment Lechuguilla Cave 3D photo exhibit: http://www.currentargus.com/ci_18018457 I don't recall seeing either on the Texas list (and Texans were spotted at both events) and I only recall the report on the Lech exhibit on the New Mexico list. George
[SWR] Fw: NSS Conservation Network
- Forwarded Message From: Steve Smith stevenlsm...@usa.net To: stevenlsm...@usa.net Sent: Sat, May 7, 2011 9:22:20 AM Subject: NSS Conservation Network From Jim Werker and Val Hildreth-Werker, NSS Conservation Division Co-Chairs (through the NSS Conservation Network - Steve Smith, Coordinator): We just received this information from Peter Youngbaer, NSS WNS Liaison, who requested that it be sent out on the NSS Conservation Network (NSSCN). Please pass the word out to the folks within your IO. Thanks! Jim Val . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dear NSS Members, We need your help to contact your U.S. Senators about research funding for White Nose Syndrome as soon as possible. A sign-on letter initiated by Sen. Lautenberg, NJ and Sen. Leahy, VT, is being circulated now, requesting that members join them in asking for $10.8 M in funding for WNS. ACTION: Please contact your Senator's office and ask them to sign on to Sen. Lautenberg's and Leahy's WNS letter. If any of the offices agree to sign on please let me know at wnsliai...@caves.org, so that we can take them off the list. Contact information for your Senators is here: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm Please call the Washington, D.C. phone number as ask to speak with the staff person who handles Environmental affairs for the Senator. If you have a personal contact, use that instead. Why is this important, and why now? Congress has just returned after a recess, and all the appropriations requests from members are being taken at this time. The approach we are supporting is a significant change from prior efforts, in that funding would be given to a variety of federal agencies, not just U.S. Fish and Wildlife. This will help bring a more balanced approach to WNS activities. As you know, this is an extremely difficult time for any federal funding. Without research that can help us answer questions about WNS, we will continue to see management decisions based on hopeful prevention strategies and speculation. For details on the collaborative budgetary initiative, please review this testimony, prepared by a number of organizations, including the NSS, and delivered by BCI's Executive Director, Nina Fascione: http://www.caves.org/WNS/BCI%20House%20Int%20Approps%204-15-11%20Final.pdf To help you speak with confidence and knowledge about the NSS and our involvement in the WNS effort, please refer to this document: http://www.caves.org/WNS/The%20NSS%20and%20WNS%20final.pdf ACTION: Please make your contacts now. We are looking for as many Senate signers as possible by Tuesday. ACTION: Please feel free to forward this message to any other lists. Thank you, Peter Youngbaer wnsliai...@caves.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . In my never-ending quest to keep the NSSCN E-Mail addressee list as current as possible, I'd appreciate it greatly if each IO would send me their druthers on who within the IO they'd like to receive this info. Usually, this info should go to the IO Conservation Chair, for subsequent forwarding out to their respective membership. If the IO does not have a designated Conservation Chair, then this info should go to the overall IO Chair. Please send me any addressee changes/updates due to IO internal elections, folks moving out of town, etc. Thanks! Steve Smith, NSSCN coordinator ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
[SWR] Lechuguilla Cave 3-D photo exhibit
From: http://www.currentargus.com/ci_18018457 CARLSBAD — Lechuguilla Cave is part of the larger cave system that includes Carlsbad Caverns. I guess I am unaware of the recent connection.:-) Lee Skinner ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
[Texascavers] Mammoth Cave National Park taking steps to prevent spread of WNS
They are using bio mats. Anybody know what chemicals are in them? See the article http://www.mlive.com/outdoors/index.ssf/2011/05/mammoth_cave_national_park_tak.html by Victor Skinner (no relation to me). Lee Skinner - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [SWR] Mammoth Cave National Park taking steps to prevent spread of WNS
On 5/8/2011 9:35:16 AM, Lee H. Skinner (skin...@thuntek.net) wrote: They are using bio mats. Anybody know what chemicals are in them? See the article http://www.mlive.com/outdoors/index. ssf/2011/05/mammoth_cave_national_park_tak.html Probably quats (quaternary ammonium compounds). See the Mammoth Cave WNS management plan: http://www.nps.gov/maca/parkmgmt/loader.cfm?csModule=security/getfilePageID=330269 Starting on page 38, there's a protocol for General Walking Tours. Quats are commonly employed in cleaning footwear in order to control spread of pathogens, and have demonstrated activity on spores of G. destructans- a bit surprising, as quats are generally not effective on spores. -AJHicks Chandler, AZ ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
[Texascavers] Bexar Grotto program announcement...
At tomorrow's Bexar Grotto meeting, Alan Montemayor will be presenting slides of his recent trip, where he and his wife Cheryl Hamilton spent 49 days in South Africa, Lesotho, Swaziland, Botswana, and Namibia. They did a self-drive safari in 4WD Toyota pickup trucks equipped with rooftop tents. Along the way, they visited shelter caves in Lesotho and Namibia that contained rock art from ancient Africans, visited Kruger National Game Park in South Africa , Etosha Game Park in Namibia , the red sand dunes of the Namib Desert and Fish Canyon (the Grand Canyon of Namibia). We can expect to see photos of wild animals including Lion, Leopard, Cheetah, Elephant, Cape Buffalo, Rhinoceros, Hippopotamus, Giraffe, Ostrich, Hyena, Zebra, Kudu, Wildebeest, Warthog, and many other hoofed beasts. A good time will be had by all in attendance...the Bexar Grotto meets at Chester's Hamburgers (NW corner of Hwy 281 and Thousand Oaks Dr) at 7:00 pm on the second and fourth Monday of each month. -Tom
texascavers Digest 8 May 2011 22:35:38 -0000 Issue 1306
texascavers Digest 8 May 2011 22:35:38 - Issue 1306 Topics (messages 17730 through 17735): Re: more Cookout stuff 17730 by: David Camera related 17731 by: dlocklear01.gmail.com Mammoth Cave National Park taking steps to prevent spread of WNS 17732 by: Lee H. Skinner Cave happenings in Carlsbad 17733 by: George Veni Bexar Grotto program announcement... 17734 by: Tom Florer Re: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links page. 17735 by: Butch Fralia Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- Any caver who goes caving on Saturday morning, May 21, and can get to Camp Happy Hollow by 9 p.m., we will save you some food. You will get in free and a hot shower will be waiting for you.I will have some extra cots, and and a roof over your head. Also, any cavers travelling from West Texas, Lubbock, Wichita Falls, out-of-state, etc. will get in free. Anyone with a valid excuse to get in free, just let me know. ( Like you shot Bin Laden or something, equivalent, or discovered the cure for WNS, etc. ) There may be a mid-night movie and popcorn to watch in the lodge. Hopefully there will be a blender and a table with a few beverages. I doubt we will run out of wine, or soft-drinks. If anybody wants to bring milk and cereal for breakfast Sunday morning, that would be appreciated. We might have a raffle.( definitely not an iPad 2, but something cool ) Most people will leave Saturday night and the rest very early on Sunday morning. But I plan to be there most of the day on Sunday, so please let me know if you can come out Sunday only, and maybe we can throw something on the grill. Please add the link below to your Facebook wall, or pass it along: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=198886710150583 David Locklear ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Best Buy has the Sony a230 camera on clearance for only $ 360. Looks like a good bargain for a caving camera. No idea if that is every store or just the one I am at. The additional flash is $ 130. I think telephoto lens is $ 250 And another $ 250 for a 16 mm lens David Locklear Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- They are using bio mats. Anybody know what chemicals are in them? See the article http://www.mlive.com/outdoors/index.ssf/2011/05/mammoth_cave_national_park_tak.html by Victor Skinner (no relation to me). Lee Skinner ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Here are a couple of news stories from Carlsbad: Unveiling of the Jim White sculpture: http://www.currentargus.com/ci_18013872?IADID=Search-www.currentargus.com-ww w.currentargus.com Opening of the Underground of Enchantment Lechuguilla Cave 3D photo exhibit: http://www.currentargus.com/ci_18018457 I don't recall seeing either on the Texas list (and Texans were spotted at both events) and I only recall the report on the Lech exhibit on the New Mexico list. George ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- At tomorrow's Bexar Grotto meeting, Alan Montemayor will be presenting slides of his recent trip, where he and his wife Cheryl Hamilton spent 49 days in South Africa, Lesotho, Swaziland, Botswana, and Namibia. They did a self-drive safari in 4WD Toyota pickup trucks equipped with rooftop tents. Along the way, they visited shelter caves in Lesotho and Namibia that contained rock art from ancient Africans, visited Kruger National Game Park in South Africa , Etosha Game Park in Namibia , the red sand dunes of the Namib Desert and Fish Canyon (the Grand Canyon of Namibia). We can expect to see photos of wild animals including Lion, Leopard, Cheetah, Elephant, Cape Buffalo, Rhinoceros, Hippopotamus, Giraffe, Ostrich, Hyena, Zebra, Kudu, Wildebeest, Warthog, and many other hoofed beasts. A good time will be had by all in attendance...the Bexar Grotto meets at Chester's Hamburgers (NW corner of Hwy 281 and Thousand Oaks Dr) at 7:00 pm on the second and fourth Monday of each month. -Tom ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Does this name ring a bell with anyone? From: Wanda L. Drisoll [mailto:wdrisc1...@suddenlink.net] Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 4:54 PM To: bfra...@maverickgrotto.org Subject: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links page. I am seeking information regarding the death of a cave explorer in the 1970's, maybe in Hays or Kendall County. Could you share any information with me regarding the decedent, james Beall? ---End Message---
Re: [Texascavers] FW: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave rel...
Excerpted from Fifty Years of Texas Caving, p. 358 : Jim Beall was a student from Galveston and died in Fair Oaks Pit in Kendall County. He had problems getting up the 60 ft entrance pit and fell to the bottom and then rolled down a steep slope and fell into the second pit that was 50 ft deep. He was able to communicate with his companions at the surface and his initial injuries were believed to be serious but survivable. Local firemen were summoned and strapped him to a wooden backboard and began hoisting him up the drops using a manila rope and steel cable from a tow truck with a powerful winch. Communications were poor. At the top of the second drop, the backboard hung up, and continued pulling snapped the manila rope. More force was applied and the cable tore through the attachment on the backboard, thereby dropping the victim down the 50 ft pit once more. The cumulative effects from both falls proved fatal. Jerry. Bibliography: Anonymous. [1976]. Cave trek ends in death. Austin American-Statesman, [n.d.], p. A8. Iliffe, Tom. 1976. Accident report. Texas Caver, 21:70. Knutson, Steve. 1981. American caving accidents 1976 through 1979. NSS News, 39(5, part 2):i-ii + A1-A82. Kunath, Carl. E. 2007. Fifty Years of Texas Caving, San Angelo, TX, A K Enterprises, 526 pp. In a message dated 5/8/2011 7:13:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, fr...@frankbinney.com writes: I recall news stories of a “spelunker”, who wasn’t affiliated with any Texas caving group, falling while trying to hand over hand a rope in the pit entrance of a small Hays County cave in the 1970s. Maybe it was the decedent in question. Poor guy apparently fractured his spine in his fall and the local volunteer fire department tried to bring him to the surface without a backboard or other c-spine stabilization. Victim was dead when they got him out, whether from the original fall or the rescue wasn’t stated. -Frank On 5/8/11 3:38 PM, Butch Fralia _bfralia@maverickgrotto.org_ (mip://02f6b288/bfra...@maverickgrotto.org) wrote: Does this name ring a bell with anyone? From: Wanda L. Drisoll [_mailto:wdrisc1941@suddenlink.net_ (mailto:wdrisc1...@suddenlink.net) ] Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 4:54 PM To: _bfralia@maverickgrotto.org_ (mip://02f6b288/bfra...@maverickgrotto.org) Subject: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links page. I am seeking information regarding the death of a cave explorer in the 1970's, maybe in Hays or Kendall County. Could you share any information with me regarding the decedent, james Beall?
[SWR] 3D slide program on Lech Thursday
Peter and Ann Bosted will be presenting a special 3-D slide show on Lechuguilla Cave at the Carlsbad Museum (Fox street between Halagueno and Alameda) at 7 PM on Thursday, May 12, at 7 PM. Tell a friend, bring a friend! ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
[Texascavers] Facebook related
Facebook has taken over e-mail for communicating with groups like caving clubs. It is so easy to create a new group: http://www.facebook.com/groups All the latest smartphones and tablets are Facebook friendly. It is hard to say where this is all heading. But after playing with Facebook on a 7 tablet with wireless broadband service ( 4G ), it seems to have a bright future for several years to come. Having your caving group communicate this way instead of say Yahoo Groups, or a list-serve ( like this one ) is much more efficient.There is more info readily available, and instant chat is integrated into the service. There is a bright side to all of this.I will be doing less posting on CaveTex. David Locklear P.S. My prediction is, the next big thing in Tablets is the ability to get their broadband in remote areas. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] FW: Arthropod Sampling and Archaeological Feature Mapping of Easter Island Caves (24 July - 08 August 2011)
For more information, please contact Jut Wynne directly at the address below. Feel free to distribute this information to others who may be interested. Thanks, George *** George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 413-383-2276 gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.org - 2011 Rapa Nui Expedition- Arthropod Sampling and Archaeological Feature Mapping of Easter Island Caves (24 July - 08 August 2011) We are seeking volunteer cartographers and archaeologists to assist in a biological and cultural resource inventory project on Easter Island (AKA Rapa Nui). Our objectives are as follows: (1) Set bait traps and search for cave-adapted insects in the four deepest caves on the island; (2) Revise cave habitat maps from 2009 expedition; and, (3) Map cave and archaeological features in the largest known cave on the island (which incidentally contains the greatest number of structures and is the most visited cave by tourists). Minimum requirements: Excellent physical condition; team-player; willingness to work long hours underground only to return to an evening of working on maps and other related expedition tasks; must be a skilled cartographer and/ or highly experienced sketching archaeological features; at minimum American Red Cross First Aid/ CPR certified. Volunteers will be responsible for all expenses. Total costs estimated ~5,100.00 Trip Overview: 24 July - Depart U.S. 25 July - Arrive Santiago/ Depart-Arrive Rapa Nui 26 July - Orientation 27 July - Deploy baits in four caves 28-29 July - Revise habitat maps ~10 caves. 30 July - 03 August - Map cave and archaeological features 04-05 August - Check baits/ Collect Arthropods/ Pull Baits 06 August - Process arthropods/ Pack 07 August - Depart Rapa Nui 08 August - Arrive US Airfare: USA-Santiago, Chile-Rapa Nui ~2,700.00 USD. Accommodations/ Food: Unfortunately, there are few camping opportunities on Rapa Nui, and we will have a lot of gear that will need to be secured. We will either stay in a hotel or rent a house (I'm currently working on both options). A 13-night hotel stay will be around 1,400.00 USD, but includes 3 meals/ day. Renting a house will be cheaper (stand by for price), but we'd be responsible for all meals. Rental Truck/ Gas: Team members will split the cost of a truck for the duration on the island. ~600.00 USD (estimated) Global Rescue Travel Insurance (required): Short-term membership. 119.00 USD. Immunizations (required): Hepatitis A B ~100.00 USD. Tourism Entry Fee into Chile (required): ~150.00 USD. Technical Equipment/Skills: There will be no vertical work on this trip. Explorers Club Flag Expedition: We will submit an application for this project to become an EC Flag Expedition (URL: http://www.explorers.org/index.php/expe ... g_the_flag). Anyone participating in an EC flag expeditions is eligible for consideration for membership into The Explorers Club. The last two expeditions to Rapa Nui were flag expeditions. If interested, please email Jut Wynne at jut.wy...@nau.edu. Please be prepared to send a current CV and contact names, phone numbers and email addresses of three professional references. Maururu roa nui! /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^ /|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\ J. Judson Wynne http://jutwynne.com http://sbsc.wr.usgs.gov/cprs/research/projects/caves/research.asp 928.863.8628 (mobile) 928.523.7757 (office) 928.556.9111 (fax) Colorado Plateau Research Station Northern Arizona University Box 5614, Building 56, Suite 150 Flagstaff, Arizona 86011 /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^ /|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\
[Texascavers] FW: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links page.
Does this name ring a bell with anyone? From: Wanda L. Drisoll [mailto:wdrisc1...@suddenlink.net] Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 4:54 PM To: bfra...@maverickgrotto.org Subject: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links page. I am seeking information regarding the death of a cave explorer in the 1970's, maybe in Hays or Kendall County. Could you share any information with me regarding the decedent, james Beall?
RE: [Texascavers] FW: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links page.
Jim Beall was a Bexar Grotto member in the late 80's and I think the early 90s. As I recall, he moved out of state but I don't recall where. Linda Palit may know more. George From: Butch Fralia [mailto:bfra...@maverickgrotto.org] Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 16:39 To: 'texas cavers' Subject: [Texascavers] FW: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links page. Does this name ring a bell with anyone? From: Wanda L. Drisoll [mailto:wdrisc1...@suddenlink.net] Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 4:54 PM To: bfra...@maverickgrotto.org Subject: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links page. I am seeking information regarding the death of a cave explorer in the 1970's, maybe in Hays or Kendall County. Could you share any information with me regarding the decedent, james Beall?
Re: [Texascavers] FW: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links page.
I recall news stories of a ³spelunker², who wasn¹t affiliated with any Texas caving group, falling while trying to hand over hand a rope in the pit entrance of a small Hays County cave in the 1970s. Maybe it was the decedent in question. Poor guy apparently fractured his spine in his fall and the local volunteer fire department tried to bring him to the surface without a backboard or other c-spine stabilization. Victim was dead when they got him out, whether from the original fall or the rescue wasn¹t stated. -Frank On 5/8/11 3:38 PM, Butch Fralia bfra...@maverickgrotto.org wrote: Does this name ring a bell with anyone? From: Wanda L. Drisoll [mailto:wdrisc1...@suddenlink.net] Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 4:54 PM To: bfra...@maverickgrotto.org Subject: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links page. I am seeking information regarding the death of a cave explorer in the 1970's, maybe in Hays or Kendall County. Could you share any information with me regarding the decedent, james Beall?
[Texascavers] Cave happenings in Carlsbad
Here are a couple of news stories from Carlsbad: Unveiling of the Jim White sculpture: http://www.currentargus.com/ci_18013872?IADID=Search-www.currentargus.com-ww w.currentargus.com Opening of the Underground of Enchantment Lechuguilla Cave 3D photo exhibit: http://www.currentargus.com/ci_18018457 I don't recall seeing either on the Texas list (and Texans were spotted at both events) and I only recall the report on the Lech exhibit on the New Mexico list. George
[SWR] Fw: NSS Conservation Network
- Forwarded Message From: Steve Smith stevenlsm...@usa.net To: stevenlsm...@usa.net Sent: Sat, May 7, 2011 9:22:20 AM Subject: NSS Conservation Network From Jim Werker and Val Hildreth-Werker, NSS Conservation Division Co-Chairs (through the NSS Conservation Network - Steve Smith, Coordinator): We just received this information from Peter Youngbaer, NSS WNS Liaison, who requested that it be sent out on the NSS Conservation Network (NSSCN). Please pass the word out to the folks within your IO. Thanks! Jim Val . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dear NSS Members, We need your help to contact your U.S. Senators about research funding for White Nose Syndrome as soon as possible. A sign-on letter initiated by Sen. Lautenberg, NJ and Sen. Leahy, VT, is being circulated now, requesting that members join them in asking for $10.8 M in funding for WNS. ACTION: Please contact your Senator's office and ask them to sign on to Sen. Lautenberg's and Leahy's WNS letter. If any of the offices agree to sign on please let me know at wnsliai...@caves.org, so that we can take them off the list. Contact information for your Senators is here: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm Please call the Washington, D.C. phone number as ask to speak with the staff person who handles Environmental affairs for the Senator. If you have a personal contact, use that instead. Why is this important, and why now? Congress has just returned after a recess, and all the appropriations requests from members are being taken at this time. The approach we are supporting is a significant change from prior efforts, in that funding would be given to a variety of federal agencies, not just U.S. Fish and Wildlife. This will help bring a more balanced approach to WNS activities. As you know, this is an extremely difficult time for any federal funding. Without research that can help us answer questions about WNS, we will continue to see management decisions based on hopeful prevention strategies and speculation. For details on the collaborative budgetary initiative, please review this testimony, prepared by a number of organizations, including the NSS, and delivered by BCI's Executive Director, Nina Fascione: http://www.caves.org/WNS/BCI%20House%20Int%20Approps%204-15-11%20Final.pdf To help you speak with confidence and knowledge about the NSS and our involvement in the WNS effort, please refer to this document: http://www.caves.org/WNS/The%20NSS%20and%20WNS%20final.pdf ACTION: Please make your contacts now. We are looking for as many Senate signers as possible by Tuesday. ACTION: Please feel free to forward this message to any other lists. Thank you, Peter Youngbaer wnsliai...@caves.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . In my never-ending quest to keep the NSSCN E-Mail addressee list as current as possible, I'd appreciate it greatly if each IO would send me their druthers on who within the IO they'd like to receive this info. Usually, this info should go to the IO Conservation Chair, for subsequent forwarding out to their respective membership. If the IO does not have a designated Conservation Chair, then this info should go to the overall IO Chair. Please send me any addressee changes/updates due to IO internal elections, folks moving out of town, etc. Thanks! Steve Smith, NSSCN coordinator ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
[SWR] Lechuguilla Cave 3-D photo exhibit
From: http://www.currentargus.com/ci_18018457 CARLSBAD — Lechuguilla Cave is part of the larger cave system that includes Carlsbad Caverns. I guess I am unaware of the recent connection.:-) Lee Skinner ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
[Texascavers] Mammoth Cave National Park taking steps to prevent spread of WNS
They are using bio mats. Anybody know what chemicals are in them? See the article http://www.mlive.com/outdoors/index.ssf/2011/05/mammoth_cave_national_park_tak.html by Victor Skinner (no relation to me). Lee Skinner - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[SWR] Mammoth Cave National Park taking steps to prevent spread of WNS
They are using bio mats. Anybody know what chemicals are in them? See the article http://www.mlive.com/outdoors/index.ssf/2011/05/mammoth_cave_national_park_tak.html by Victor Skinner (no relation to me). Lee Skinner ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] Mammoth Cave National Park taking steps to prevent spread of WNS
On 5/8/2011 9:35:16 AM, Lee H. Skinner (skin...@thuntek.net) wrote: They are using bio mats. Anybody know what chemicals are in them? See the article http://www.mlive.com/outdoors/index. ssf/2011/05/mammoth_cave_national_park_tak.html Probably quats (quaternary ammonium compounds). See the Mammoth Cave WNS management plan: http://www.nps.gov/maca/parkmgmt/loader.cfm?csModule=security/getfilePageID=330269 Starting on page 38, there's a protocol for General Walking Tours. Quats are commonly employed in cleaning footwear in order to control spread of pathogens, and have demonstrated activity on spores of G. destructans- a bit surprising, as quats are generally not effective on spores. -AJHicks Chandler, AZ ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
[Texascavers] Bexar Grotto program announcement...
At tomorrow's Bexar Grotto meeting, Alan Montemayor will be presenting slides of his recent trip, where he and his wife Cheryl Hamilton spent 49 days in South Africa, Lesotho, Swaziland, Botswana, and Namibia. They did a self-drive safari in 4WD Toyota pickup trucks equipped with rooftop tents. Along the way, they visited shelter caves in Lesotho and Namibia that contained rock art from ancient Africans, visited Kruger National Game Park in South Africa , Etosha Game Park in Namibia , the red sand dunes of the Namib Desert and Fish Canyon (the Grand Canyon of Namibia). We can expect to see photos of wild animals including Lion, Leopard, Cheetah, Elephant, Cape Buffalo, Rhinoceros, Hippopotamus, Giraffe, Ostrich, Hyena, Zebra, Kudu, Wildebeest, Warthog, and many other hoofed beasts. A good time will be had by all in attendance...the Bexar Grotto meets at Chester's Hamburgers (NW corner of Hwy 281 and Thousand Oaks Dr) at 7:00 pm on the second and fourth Monday of each month. -Tom
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texascavers Digest 8 May 2011 22:35:38 -0000 Issue 1306
texascavers Digest 8 May 2011 22:35:38 - Issue 1306 Topics (messages 17730 through 17735): Re: more Cookout stuff 17730 by: David Camera related 17731 by: dlocklear01.gmail.com Mammoth Cave National Park taking steps to prevent spread of WNS 17732 by: Lee H. Skinner Cave happenings in Carlsbad 17733 by: George Veni Bexar Grotto program announcement... 17734 by: Tom Florer Re: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links page. 17735 by: Butch Fralia Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- Any caver who goes caving on Saturday morning, May 21, and can get to Camp Happy Hollow by 9 p.m., we will save you some food. You will get in free and a hot shower will be waiting for you.I will have some extra cots, and and a roof over your head. Also, any cavers travelling from West Texas, Lubbock, Wichita Falls, out-of-state, etc. will get in free. Anyone with a valid excuse to get in free, just let me know. ( Like you shot Bin Laden or something, equivalent, or discovered the cure for WNS, etc. ) There may be a mid-night movie and popcorn to watch in the lodge. Hopefully there will be a blender and a table with a few beverages. I doubt we will run out of wine, or soft-drinks. If anybody wants to bring milk and cereal for breakfast Sunday morning, that would be appreciated. We might have a raffle.( definitely not an iPad 2, but something cool ) Most people will leave Saturday night and the rest very early on Sunday morning. But I plan to be there most of the day on Sunday, so please let me know if you can come out Sunday only, and maybe we can throw something on the grill. Please add the link below to your Facebook wall, or pass it along: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=198886710150583 David Locklear ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Best Buy has the Sony a230 camera on clearance for only $ 360. Looks like a good bargain for a caving camera. No idea if that is every store or just the one I am at. The additional flash is $ 130. I think telephoto lens is $ 250 And another $ 250 for a 16 mm lens David Locklear Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- They are using bio mats. Anybody know what chemicals are in them? See the article http://www.mlive.com/outdoors/index.ssf/2011/05/mammoth_cave_national_park_tak.html by Victor Skinner (no relation to me). Lee Skinner ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Here are a couple of news stories from Carlsbad: Unveiling of the Jim White sculpture: http://www.currentargus.com/ci_18013872?IADID=Search-www.currentargus.com-ww w.currentargus.com Opening of the Underground of Enchantment Lechuguilla Cave 3D photo exhibit: http://www.currentargus.com/ci_18018457 I don't recall seeing either on the Texas list (and Texans were spotted at both events) and I only recall the report on the Lech exhibit on the New Mexico list. George ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- At tomorrow's Bexar Grotto meeting, Alan Montemayor will be presenting slides of his recent trip, where he and his wife Cheryl Hamilton spent 49 days in South Africa, Lesotho, Swaziland, Botswana, and Namibia. They did a self-drive safari in 4WD Toyota pickup trucks equipped with rooftop tents. Along the way, they visited shelter caves in Lesotho and Namibia that contained rock art from ancient Africans, visited Kruger National Game Park in South Africa , Etosha Game Park in Namibia , the red sand dunes of the Namib Desert and Fish Canyon (the Grand Canyon of Namibia). We can expect to see photos of wild animals including Lion, Leopard, Cheetah, Elephant, Cape Buffalo, Rhinoceros, Hippopotamus, Giraffe, Ostrich, Hyena, Zebra, Kudu, Wildebeest, Warthog, and many other hoofed beasts. A good time will be had by all in attendance...the Bexar Grotto meets at Chester's Hamburgers (NW corner of Hwy 281 and Thousand Oaks Dr) at 7:00 pm on the second and fourth Monday of each month. -Tom ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Does this name ring a bell with anyone? From: Wanda L. Drisoll [mailto:wdrisc1...@suddenlink.net] Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 4:54 PM To: bfra...@maverickgrotto.org Subject: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links page. I am seeking information regarding the death of a cave explorer in the 1970's, maybe in Hays or Kendall County. Could you share any information with me regarding the decedent, james Beall? ---End Message---
Re: [Texascavers] FW: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave rel...
Excerpted from Fifty Years of Texas Caving, p. 358 : Jim Beall was a student from Galveston and died in Fair Oaks Pit in Kendall County. He had problems getting up the 60 ft entrance pit and fell to the bottom and then rolled down a steep slope and fell into the second pit that was 50 ft deep. He was able to communicate with his companions at the surface and his initial injuries were believed to be serious but survivable. Local firemen were summoned and strapped him to a wooden backboard and began hoisting him up the drops using a manila rope and steel cable from a tow truck with a powerful winch. Communications were poor. At the top of the second drop, the backboard hung up, and continued pulling snapped the manila rope. More force was applied and the cable tore through the attachment on the backboard, thereby dropping the victim down the 50 ft pit once more. The cumulative effects from both falls proved fatal. Jerry. Bibliography: Anonymous. [1976]. Cave trek ends in death. Austin American-Statesman, [n.d.], p. A8. Iliffe, Tom. 1976. Accident report. Texas Caver, 21:70. Knutson, Steve. 1981. American caving accidents 1976 through 1979. NSS News, 39(5, part 2):i-ii + A1-A82. Kunath, Carl. E. 2007. Fifty Years of Texas Caving, San Angelo, TX, A K Enterprises, 526 pp. In a message dated 5/8/2011 7:13:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, fr...@frankbinney.com writes: I recall news stories of a “spelunker”, who wasn’t affiliated with any Texas caving group, falling while trying to hand over hand a rope in the pit entrance of a small Hays County cave in the 1970s. Maybe it was the decedent in question. Poor guy apparently fractured his spine in his fall and the local volunteer fire department tried to bring him to the surface without a backboard or other c-spine stabilization. Victim was dead when they got him out, whether from the original fall or the rescue wasn’t stated. -Frank On 5/8/11 3:38 PM, Butch Fralia _bfralia@maverickgrotto.org_ (mip://02f6b288/bfra...@maverickgrotto.org) wrote: Does this name ring a bell with anyone? From: Wanda L. Drisoll [_mailto:wdrisc1941@suddenlink.net_ (mailto:wdrisc1...@suddenlink.net) ] Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 4:54 PM To: _bfralia@maverickgrotto.org_ (mip://02f6b288/bfra...@maverickgrotto.org) Subject: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links page. I am seeking information regarding the death of a cave explorer in the 1970's, maybe in Hays or Kendall County. Could you share any information with me regarding the decedent, james Beall?
[SWR] GCC Trip Announcement - May 20-22
Hello Cavers, The next dig weekend at Grand Canyon Caverns will happen on the weekend of May 20-22. Please spread to word to all interested parties. Cavers will begin arriving Friday evening, and we'll work until midday Sunday. If you're interested in helping out, please email me and let me know when you intend to be there. I need an RSVP by 4PM Monday, May 16th. If you have any questions, shoot me an email. I hope to see you there, -Rich ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
[SWR] 3D slide program on Lech Thursday
Peter and Ann Bosted will be presenting a special 3-D slide show on Lechuguilla Cave at the Carlsbad Museum (Fox street between Halagueno and Alameda) at 7 PM on Thursday, May 12, at 7 PM. Tell a friend, bring a friend! ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
[Texascavers] Facebook related
Facebook has taken over e-mail for communicating with groups like caving clubs. It is so easy to create a new group: http://www.facebook.com/groups All the latest smartphones and tablets are Facebook friendly. It is hard to say where this is all heading. But after playing with Facebook on a 7 tablet with wireless broadband service ( 4G ), it seems to have a bright future for several years to come. Having your caving group communicate this way instead of say Yahoo Groups, or a list-serve ( like this one ) is much more efficient.There is more info readily available, and instant chat is integrated into the service. There is a bright side to all of this.I will be doing less posting on CaveTex. David Locklear P.S. My prediction is, the next big thing in Tablets is the ability to get their broadband in remote areas. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] FW: Arthropod Sampling and Archaeological Feature Mapping of Easter Island Caves (24 July - 08 August 2011)
For more information, please contact Jut Wynne directly at the address below. Feel free to distribute this information to others who may be interested. Thanks, George *** George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 413-383-2276 gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.org - 2011 Rapa Nui Expedition- Arthropod Sampling and Archaeological Feature Mapping of Easter Island Caves (24 July - 08 August 2011) We are seeking volunteer cartographers and archaeologists to assist in a biological and cultural resource inventory project on Easter Island (AKA Rapa Nui). Our objectives are as follows: (1) Set bait traps and search for cave-adapted insects in the four deepest caves on the island; (2) Revise cave habitat maps from 2009 expedition; and, (3) Map cave and archaeological features in the largest known cave on the island (which incidentally contains the greatest number of structures and is the most visited cave by tourists). Minimum requirements: Excellent physical condition; team-player; willingness to work long hours underground only to return to an evening of working on maps and other related expedition tasks; must be a skilled cartographer and/ or highly experienced sketching archaeological features; at minimum American Red Cross First Aid/ CPR certified. Volunteers will be responsible for all expenses. Total costs estimated ~5,100.00 Trip Overview: 24 July - Depart U.S. 25 July - Arrive Santiago/ Depart-Arrive Rapa Nui 26 July - Orientation 27 July - Deploy baits in four caves 28-29 July - Revise habitat maps ~10 caves. 30 July - 03 August - Map cave and archaeological features 04-05 August - Check baits/ Collect Arthropods/ Pull Baits 06 August - Process arthropods/ Pack 07 August - Depart Rapa Nui 08 August - Arrive US Airfare: USA-Santiago, Chile-Rapa Nui ~2,700.00 USD. Accommodations/ Food: Unfortunately, there are few camping opportunities on Rapa Nui, and we will have a lot of gear that will need to be secured. We will either stay in a hotel or rent a house (I'm currently working on both options). A 13-night hotel stay will be around 1,400.00 USD, but includes 3 meals/ day. Renting a house will be cheaper (stand by for price), but we'd be responsible for all meals. Rental Truck/ Gas: Team members will split the cost of a truck for the duration on the island. ~600.00 USD (estimated) Global Rescue Travel Insurance (required): Short-term membership. 119.00 USD. Immunizations (required): Hepatitis A B ~100.00 USD. Tourism Entry Fee into Chile (required): ~150.00 USD. Technical Equipment/Skills: There will be no vertical work on this trip. Explorers Club Flag Expedition: We will submit an application for this project to become an EC Flag Expedition (URL: http://www.explorers.org/index.php/expe ... g_the_flag). Anyone participating in an EC flag expeditions is eligible for consideration for membership into The Explorers Club. The last two expeditions to Rapa Nui were flag expeditions. If interested, please email Jut Wynne at jut.wy...@nau.edu. Please be prepared to send a current CV and contact names, phone numbers and email addresses of three professional references. Maururu roa nui! /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^ /|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\ J. Judson Wynne http://jutwynne.com http://sbsc.wr.usgs.gov/cprs/research/projects/caves/research.asp 928.863.8628 (mobile) 928.523.7757 (office) 928.556.9111 (fax) Colorado Plateau Research Station Northern Arizona University Box 5614, Building 56, Suite 150 Flagstaff, Arizona 86011 /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^ /|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\ /|\^._.^/|\
[Texascavers] FW: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links page.
Does this name ring a bell with anyone? From: Wanda L. Drisoll [mailto:wdrisc1...@suddenlink.net] Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 4:54 PM To: bfra...@maverickgrotto.org Subject: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links page. I am seeking information regarding the death of a cave explorer in the 1970's, maybe in Hays or Kendall County. Could you share any information with me regarding the decedent, james Beall?
RE: [Texascavers] FW: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links page.
Jim Beall was a Bexar Grotto member in the late 80's and I think the early 90s. As I recall, he moved out of state but I don't recall where. Linda Palit may know more. George From: Butch Fralia [mailto:bfra...@maverickgrotto.org] Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 16:39 To: 'texas cavers' Subject: [Texascavers] FW: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links page. Does this name ring a bell with anyone? From: Wanda L. Drisoll [mailto:wdrisc1...@suddenlink.net] Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 4:54 PM To: bfra...@maverickgrotto.org Subject: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links page. I am seeking information regarding the death of a cave explorer in the 1970's, maybe in Hays or Kendall County. Could you share any information with me regarding the decedent, james Beall?
Re: [Texascavers] FW: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links page.
I recall news stories of a ³spelunker², who wasn¹t affiliated with any Texas caving group, falling while trying to hand over hand a rope in the pit entrance of a small Hays County cave in the 1970s. Maybe it was the decedent in question. Poor guy apparently fractured his spine in his fall and the local volunteer fire department tried to bring him to the surface without a backboard or other c-spine stabilization. Victim was dead when they got him out, whether from the original fall or the rescue wasn¹t stated. -Frank On 5/8/11 3:38 PM, Butch Fralia bfra...@maverickgrotto.org wrote: Does this name ring a bell with anyone? From: Wanda L. Drisoll [mailto:wdrisc1...@suddenlink.net] Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 4:54 PM To: bfra...@maverickgrotto.org Subject: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links page. I am seeking information regarding the death of a cave explorer in the 1970's, maybe in Hays or Kendall County. Could you share any information with me regarding the decedent, james Beall?
