date:20111001

[Texascavers] cave news related

2011-10-01 Thread David

The web-site below appears to have been up for about 11 months.


http://www.karstworlds.com/

Nearly each day, there is a new story posted in a blog format about
a cave related topic.

For example,

   http://www.karstworlds.com/2011/09/new-room-tunnel-found-underwater-in.html

If you scroll down a little and look on the right of the screen you can
see the blog topics listed.

There is some way to get each new post to feed directly to you thru
a 3rd party service onto your tablet or cell-phone, etc.

David Locklear

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[Texascavers] cave news related

2011-10-01 Thread David

The web-site below appears to have been up for about 11 months.


http://www.karstworlds.com/

Nearly each day, there is a new story posted in a blog format about
a cave related topic.

For example,

   http://www.karstworlds.com/2011/09/new-room-tunnel-found-underwater-in.html

If you scroll down a little and look on the right of the screen you can
see the blog topics listed.

There is some way to get each new post to feed directly to you thru
a 3rd party service onto your tablet or cell-phone, etc.

David Locklear

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[Texascavers] cave news related

2011-10-01 Thread David

The web-site below appears to have been up for about 11 months.


http://www.karstworlds.com/

Nearly each day, there is a new story posted in a blog format about
a cave related topic.

For example,

   http://www.karstworlds.com/2011/09/new-room-tunnel-found-underwater-in.html

If you scroll down a little and look on the right of the screen you can
see the blog topics listed.

There is some way to get each new post to feed directly to you thru
a 3rd party service onto your tablet or cell-phone, etc.

David Locklear

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[Texascavers] a new slideshow about prehistoric cave art

2011-10-01 Thread David

This slideshow was uploaded 2 days ago:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7c2leQssOQ&feature=player_embedded

Click on the resolution at 720p and then click on full screen, at the bottom
right corner of the video.

This presentation is one that could be shown at a grotto meeting.

David Locklear

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[Texascavers] a new slideshow about prehistoric cave art

2011-10-01 Thread David

This slideshow was uploaded 2 days ago:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7c2leQssOQ&feature=player_embedded

Click on the resolution at 720p and then click on full screen, at the bottom
right corner of the video.

This presentation is one that could be shown at a grotto meeting.

David Locklear

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[Texascavers] a new slideshow about prehistoric cave art

2011-10-01 Thread David

This slideshow was uploaded 2 days ago:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7c2leQssOQ&feature=player_embedded

Click on the resolution at 720p and then click on full screen, at the bottom
right corner of the video.

This presentation is one that could be shown at a grotto meeting.

David Locklear

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RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...

2011-10-01 Thread jociehooper

My Fannie Farmer Cookbook (p.687)is so old the scan/copy was just too dark, so 
I am typing it.  Also, I doubled the recipe to make use of a bigger pan than 
the cookbook called for.  And, I deleted the nuts.
  Coconut Bars
 1/2 lb butter
 4 Tbsp Confectioners' Sugar
 2 Cups plus 4 Tbsp flour
 4 eggs
 2 1/2 cups brown sugar
 2 Tsp Vanilla
 1/2 tsp Salt
 2 Tsp Baking Powder
 2 Cups moist shredded Coconut
  Preheat oven to 350 deg F.  Line a 9 x 13" pan with wax paper.  Cream the 
butter, then add the confectioners' sugar & the 2 cups of flour, and blend.  
Pat evenly into the pan and bake for 15 min.  While the pastry is baking, beat 
the eggs, then add the brown sugar and vanilla, beating until thick.  Mix the 
remaining 4 Tbsp flour, salt and baking powder together and add to the egg 
mixture.  Beat in the coconut.  Spread evenly over the pastry and bake for 
25-30 min.  Cool in the pan.  Makes 24 bars.




 Denise P  wrote: 
> 
> Yum. But kindy pricey huh? 
>  
> Jocie's coconut bars were outstanding, we are going with them. 
>  
> Jocie can you scan the recipe and send to everyone?
>  
> -Denise
>  
> 
> 
> 
> To: stefan.crea...@arm.com; trog...@cavechat.org; tcrco...@texascavers.com
> From: galenfalg...@yahoo.com
> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 19:35:43 -0500
> Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Also shrimp is in season. What do u guys think about having boiled shrimp
> Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!
> 
> 
> - Reply message -
> From: "Stefan Creaser" 
> Date: Wed, Sep 21, 2011 1:25 pm
> Subject: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> To: "Heather Tucek" , "tcrco...@texascavers.com" 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> :-)
>  
> 
> From: Heather Tucek [mailto:trog...@cavechat.org] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 1:15 PM
> To: tcrco...@texascavers.com
> Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
>  
> I'll make some Seadog Salad and bring it tonight for ya'll to try out.
> 
> -h
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 18 September 2011 17:18, Denise P  wrote:
> 
> 
> Dale will test them out tomorrow. I can  cook them on Friday, the day before 
> the dinner, so they will be pretty fresh.
>  
> I did have a problem with them being sticky, hard to get out of the pan (I 
> greased  a glass pan), and not exactly holding their shape. We'll see what 
> Jocie comes up with.
>  
> -Denise
> 
>  
> 
> > Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:10:32 -0500
> > From: tr...@sprynet.com
> > To: tcrco...@texascavers.com
> 
> 
> 
> > Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> > 
> > How good are they second day? Since we will have no ovens at TCR they 
> > will need to wait around a bit.
> > 
> > Terry H.
> > 
> > On 9/18/2011 4:26 PM, Denise P wrote:
> > >
> > > I made a batch, used margarine to make dairy free. Pretty yummy, quite 
> > > coconutty.
> > >
> > > One batch was 16 peices, 2 1/2" X 3 1/4." I guess maybe count on making 
> > > 300 peices for 200 people or 19 batches?
> > >
> > > Let me know what you think when you've had a chance to make them Jocie.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Denise
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:03:10 +
> > >> From: jociehoo...@austin.rr.com
> > >> To: aim...@yahoo.com; pepabe...@hotmail.com
> > >> CC: mrzap...@gmail.com; sandi.calh...@gmail.com; 
> > >> tcrco...@texascavers.com; tr...@sprynet.com; stefan.crea...@arm.com
> > >> Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> > >>
> > >> Denise, I would be happy to make half of them to even out the load! I'm 
> > >> not thinking very creatively right now. Too much going on. Jocie
> > >>  Denise P wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> I am going to try this one. Similar ingredients but bars are easier 
> > >>> than cookies.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Coconut Bars
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> 1/2 cup butter
> > >>> 2 cups brown sugar
> > >>> 2 eggs
> > >>> 2 teaspoons vanilla
> > >>> 1 cup flour
> > >>> 2 teaspoons baking powder
> > >>> 1 1/2 cups coconut
> > >>>
> > >>> Directions:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Melt butter in pan, remove from heat and add brown sugar, stir until 
> > >>> dissolved cool slightly.
> > >>>
> > >>> add eggs and vanilla.
> > >>>
> > >>> Beat well.
> > >>>
> > >>> stir in flour and baking powder.
> > >>>
> > >>> Mix thourghly add coconut.
> > >>>
> > >>> pour into 9x13 pan sprayed w/Pam.
> > >>>
> > >>> bake at 350 30 minutes cut while warm.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Read more: http://www.food.com/recipe/coconut-bars-11130#ixzz1XesitwQE
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> CC: sandi.calh...@gmail.com; stefan.crea...@arm.com; 
> > >>> tcrco...@texascavers.com; mrzap...@gmail.com; 
> > >>> jociehoo...@austin.rr.com; tr...@sprynet.com
> > >>> From: aim...@yahoo.com
> > >>> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:59:03 -0500
> > >>> To: pepabe...@hotmail.com
> > >>> Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I liked them. 2 per person for 200 should be perfect. Perhaps you could 
> > >>> chill the dough in tubes then cut off buttons. Might make it easier to 
> > >>> work with. I donno.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sep 10, 2011, at 5:57 PM, Deni

RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...

2011-10-01 Thread jociehooper

My Fannie Farmer Cookbook (p.687)is so old the scan/copy was just too dark, so 
I am typing it.  Also, I doubled the recipe to make use of a bigger pan than 
the cookbook called for.  And, I deleted the nuts.
  Coconut Bars
 1/2 lb butter
 4 Tbsp Confectioners' Sugar
 2 Cups plus 4 Tbsp flour
 4 eggs
 2 1/2 cups brown sugar
 2 Tsp Vanilla
 1/2 tsp Salt
 2 Tsp Baking Powder
 2 Cups moist shredded Coconut
  Preheat oven to 350 deg F.  Line a 9 x 13" pan with wax paper.  Cream the 
butter, then add the confectioners' sugar & the 2 cups of flour, and blend.  
Pat evenly into the pan and bake for 15 min.  While the pastry is baking, beat 
the eggs, then add the brown sugar and vanilla, beating until thick.  Mix the 
remaining 4 Tbsp flour, salt and baking powder together and add to the egg 
mixture.  Beat in the coconut.  Spread evenly over the pastry and bake for 
25-30 min.  Cool in the pan.  Makes 24 bars.




 Denise P  wrote: 
> 
> Yum. But kindy pricey huh? 
>  
> Jocie's coconut bars were outstanding, we are going with them. 
>  
> Jocie can you scan the recipe and send to everyone?
>  
> -Denise
>  
> 
> 
> 
> To: stefan.crea...@arm.com; trog...@cavechat.org; tcrco...@texascavers.com
> From: galenfalg...@yahoo.com
> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 19:35:43 -0500
> Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Also shrimp is in season. What do u guys think about having boiled shrimp
> Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!
> 
> 
> - Reply message -
> From: "Stefan Creaser" 
> Date: Wed, Sep 21, 2011 1:25 pm
> Subject: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> To: "Heather Tucek" , "tcrco...@texascavers.com" 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> :-)
>  
> 
> From: Heather Tucek [mailto:trog...@cavechat.org] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 1:15 PM
> To: tcrco...@texascavers.com
> Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
>  
> I'll make some Seadog Salad and bring it tonight for ya'll to try out.
> 
> -h
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 18 September 2011 17:18, Denise P  wrote:
> 
> 
> Dale will test them out tomorrow. I can  cook them on Friday, the day before 
> the dinner, so they will be pretty fresh.
>  
> I did have a problem with them being sticky, hard to get out of the pan (I 
> greased  a glass pan), and not exactly holding their shape. We'll see what 
> Jocie comes up with.
>  
> -Denise
> 
>  
> 
> > Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:10:32 -0500
> > From: tr...@sprynet.com
> > To: tcrco...@texascavers.com
> 
> 
> 
> > Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> > 
> > How good are they second day? Since we will have no ovens at TCR they 
> > will need to wait around a bit.
> > 
> > Terry H.
> > 
> > On 9/18/2011 4:26 PM, Denise P wrote:
> > >
> > > I made a batch, used margarine to make dairy free. Pretty yummy, quite 
> > > coconutty.
> > >
> > > One batch was 16 peices, 2 1/2" X 3 1/4." I guess maybe count on making 
> > > 300 peices for 200 people or 19 batches?
> > >
> > > Let me know what you think when you've had a chance to make them Jocie.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Denise
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:03:10 +
> > >> From: jociehoo...@austin.rr.com
> > >> To: aim...@yahoo.com; pepabe...@hotmail.com
> > >> CC: mrzap...@gmail.com; sandi.calh...@gmail.com; 
> > >> tcrco...@texascavers.com; tr...@sprynet.com; stefan.crea...@arm.com
> > >> Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> > >>
> > >> Denise, I would be happy to make half of them to even out the load! I'm 
> > >> not thinking very creatively right now. Too much going on. Jocie
> > >>  Denise P wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> I am going to try this one. Similar ingredients but bars are easier 
> > >>> than cookies.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Coconut Bars
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> 1/2 cup butter
> > >>> 2 cups brown sugar
> > >>> 2 eggs
> > >>> 2 teaspoons vanilla
> > >>> 1 cup flour
> > >>> 2 teaspoons baking powder
> > >>> 1 1/2 cups coconut
> > >>>
> > >>> Directions:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Melt butter in pan, remove from heat and add brown sugar, stir until 
> > >>> dissolved cool slightly.
> > >>>
> > >>> add eggs and vanilla.
> > >>>
> > >>> Beat well.
> > >>>
> > >>> stir in flour and baking powder.
> > >>>
> > >>> Mix thourghly add coconut.
> > >>>
> > >>> pour into 9x13 pan sprayed w/Pam.
> > >>>
> > >>> bake at 350 30 minutes cut while warm.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Read more: http://www.food.com/recipe/coconut-bars-11130#ixzz1XesitwQE
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> CC: sandi.calh...@gmail.com; stefan.crea...@arm.com; 
> > >>> tcrco...@texascavers.com; mrzap...@gmail.com; 
> > >>> jociehoo...@austin.rr.com; tr...@sprynet.com
> > >>> From: aim...@yahoo.com
> > >>> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:59:03 -0500
> > >>> To: pepabe...@hotmail.com
> > >>> Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I liked them. 2 per person for 200 should be perfect. Perhaps you could 
> > >>> chill the dough in tubes then cut off buttons. Might make it easier to 
> > >>> work with. I donno.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sep 10, 2011, at 5:57 PM, Deni

RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...

2011-10-01 Thread jociehooper

My Fannie Farmer Cookbook (p.687)is so old the scan/copy was just too dark, so 
I am typing it.  Also, I doubled the recipe to make use of a bigger pan than 
the cookbook called for.  And, I deleted the nuts.
  Coconut Bars
 1/2 lb butter
 4 Tbsp Confectioners' Sugar
 2 Cups plus 4 Tbsp flour
 4 eggs
 2 1/2 cups brown sugar
 2 Tsp Vanilla
 1/2 tsp Salt
 2 Tsp Baking Powder
 2 Cups moist shredded Coconut
  Preheat oven to 350 deg F.  Line a 9 x 13" pan with wax paper.  Cream the 
butter, then add the confectioners' sugar & the 2 cups of flour, and blend.  
Pat evenly into the pan and bake for 15 min.  While the pastry is baking, beat 
the eggs, then add the brown sugar and vanilla, beating until thick.  Mix the 
remaining 4 Tbsp flour, salt and baking powder together and add to the egg 
mixture.  Beat in the coconut.  Spread evenly over the pastry and bake for 
25-30 min.  Cool in the pan.  Makes 24 bars.




 Denise P  wrote: 
> 
> Yum. But kindy pricey huh? 
>  
> Jocie's coconut bars were outstanding, we are going with them. 
>  
> Jocie can you scan the recipe and send to everyone?
>  
> -Denise
>  
> 
> 
> 
> To: stefan.crea...@arm.com; trog...@cavechat.org; tcrco...@texascavers.com
> From: galenfalg...@yahoo.com
> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 19:35:43 -0500
> Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Also shrimp is in season. What do u guys think about having boiled shrimp
> Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!
> 
> 
> - Reply message -
> From: "Stefan Creaser" 
> Date: Wed, Sep 21, 2011 1:25 pm
> Subject: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> To: "Heather Tucek" , "tcrco...@texascavers.com" 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> :-)
>  
> 
> From: Heather Tucek [mailto:trog...@cavechat.org] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 1:15 PM
> To: tcrco...@texascavers.com
> Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
>  
> I'll make some Seadog Salad and bring it tonight for ya'll to try out.
> 
> -h
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 18 September 2011 17:18, Denise P  wrote:
> 
> 
> Dale will test them out tomorrow. I can  cook them on Friday, the day before 
> the dinner, so they will be pretty fresh.
>  
> I did have a problem with them being sticky, hard to get out of the pan (I 
> greased  a glass pan), and not exactly holding their shape. We'll see what 
> Jocie comes up with.
>  
> -Denise
> 
>  
> 
> > Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:10:32 -0500
> > From: tr...@sprynet.com
> > To: tcrco...@texascavers.com
> 
> 
> 
> > Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> > 
> > How good are they second day? Since we will have no ovens at TCR they 
> > will need to wait around a bit.
> > 
> > Terry H.
> > 
> > On 9/18/2011 4:26 PM, Denise P wrote:
> > >
> > > I made a batch, used margarine to make dairy free. Pretty yummy, quite 
> > > coconutty.
> > >
> > > One batch was 16 peices, 2 1/2" X 3 1/4." I guess maybe count on making 
> > > 300 peices for 200 people or 19 batches?
> > >
> > > Let me know what you think when you've had a chance to make them Jocie.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Denise
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:03:10 +
> > >> From: jociehoo...@austin.rr.com
> > >> To: aim...@yahoo.com; pepabe...@hotmail.com
> > >> CC: mrzap...@gmail.com; sandi.calh...@gmail.com; 
> > >> tcrco...@texascavers.com; tr...@sprynet.com; stefan.crea...@arm.com
> > >> Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> > >>
> > >> Denise, I would be happy to make half of them to even out the load! I'm 
> > >> not thinking very creatively right now. Too much going on. Jocie
> > >>  Denise P wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> I am going to try this one. Similar ingredients but bars are easier 
> > >>> than cookies.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Coconut Bars
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> 1/2 cup butter
> > >>> 2 cups brown sugar
> > >>> 2 eggs
> > >>> 2 teaspoons vanilla
> > >>> 1 cup flour
> > >>> 2 teaspoons baking powder
> > >>> 1 1/2 cups coconut
> > >>>
> > >>> Directions:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Melt butter in pan, remove from heat and add brown sugar, stir until 
> > >>> dissolved cool slightly.
> > >>>
> > >>> add eggs and vanilla.
> > >>>
> > >>> Beat well.
> > >>>
> > >>> stir in flour and baking powder.
> > >>>
> > >>> Mix thourghly add coconut.
> > >>>
> > >>> pour into 9x13 pan sprayed w/Pam.
> > >>>
> > >>> bake at 350 30 minutes cut while warm.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Read more: http://www.food.com/recipe/coconut-bars-11130#ixzz1XesitwQE
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> CC: sandi.calh...@gmail.com; stefan.crea...@arm.com; 
> > >>> tcrco...@texascavers.com; mrzap...@gmail.com; 
> > >>> jociehoo...@austin.rr.com; tr...@sprynet.com
> > >>> From: aim...@yahoo.com
> > >>> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:59:03 -0500
> > >>> To: pepabe...@hotmail.com
> > >>> Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I liked them. 2 per person for 200 should be perfect. Perhaps you could 
> > >>> chill the dough in tubes then cut off buttons. Might make it easier to 
> > >>> work with. I donno.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sep 10, 2011, at 5:57 PM, Deni

RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...

2011-10-01 Thread jociehooper

I can make 6 pans of coconut bars...I think I said 5 earlier.  Jocie
 Denise P  wrote: 
> 
> That gives us 364 dessert servings. Is that enough? Maybe we could buy some 
> chocolates or something. I just don't want people to be left craving 
> something sweet and we're short on dessert. -d
>  CC: stefan.crea...@arm.com; tcrco...@texascavers.com
> From: aim...@yahoo.com
> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 11:00:54 -0500
> To: pepabe...@hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> 
> About 3 doz at least. 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 30, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Denise P  wrote:
> 
> 
> Cool. How many will that make?
>  
> -Denise
>  
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 20:35:14 -0700
> From: aim...@yahoo.com
> To: pepabe...@hotmail.com; stefan.crea...@arm.com
> CC: tcrco...@texascavers.com
> Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> 
> I have a cupcake angel who is going to help me whip up three boxes of duncan 
> hinds spice flavored cakes with homemade vanilla frosting.  Work for you 
> guys? 
> 
> From: Denise P 
> To: Stefan Creaser 
> Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:21 PM
> Subject: RE:
>  [tcrcooks] Menu...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> No, I am out of town with a mom who has just had a triple bypass. I'll be 
> lucky to make it back in town for TCR.
>  
> -Denise
>  
> > From: stefan.crea...@arm.com
> > To: pepabe...@hotmail.com
> > CC: tcrco...@texascavers.com
> > Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 19:00:58 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> > 
> > Have you tried to recruit any more people?
> > 
> > Sent from my iPad
> > 
> > On Sep 29, 2011, at 8:06 PM, "Denise P" 
> > mailto:pepabe...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > If we don't get more volunteers for dessert, we will need to buy something 
> > ready made. Ideas?
> > 
> > -Denise
> > 
> > 
> > Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:49:58 -0500
> > From:  
> > mrzap...@gmail.com
> > To: 
>  pepabe...@hotmail.com
> > CC: jociehoo...@austin.rr.com; 
> > stefan.crea...@arm.com; 
> > galenfalg...@yahoo.com; 
> >  
> > tcrco...@texascavers.com
> > Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> > 
> > I'm going to do 4 cakes, each of which could serve about 16.  So, that 
> > gives us 64.  The cakes are going to require deep 10 to 12 inch cast iron 
> > skillets.  So, if we can find someone else to help make the cakes, we'll 
> > still need to make sure they have the skillets.
> > 
> > 2011/9/29 Denise P 
> > <pepabe...@hotmail.com>
> > I can make 6. That gves us 264. With Matt's 2 cakes (shoot I forget how 
> > many servings each was), we will still neeed more desserts. Can
>  someone recruit a person to make more cakes?
> > 
> > -Denise
> > 
> > > Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:08:45 -0500
> > 
> > > From:  
> > > jociehoo...@austin.rr.com
> > > To:  
> > > mrzap...@gmail.com; 
> > >  
> > > stefan.crea...@arm.com; 
> > >  
> > > pepabe...@hotmail.com
> > 
> > > CC:  
> > > galenfalg...@yahoo.com; 
> > >  
> > > tcrco...@texascavers.com
> > > Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> > 
> > >
> > > My Coconut Bars make 24 in a 13 x 9" baking pan. I thought I would make 
> > > at least 5 pans. How
>  many can you do Denise? Matt might have to make only 5 Upside Down cakes - 
> depends on how many cast iron skillets he can rustle up. Jocie
> > >  Denise P 
> > > <pepabe...@hotmail.com>
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 4 cakes would be how many servings? We might need someone else to make 
> > > > some more cakes as Jocie and I were covering only half the desserts.
> > > >
> > > > -Denise
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:53:16 -0500
> > > > From:  
> > > > mrzap...@gmail.com
> > > > To:  
> > > > stefan.crea...@arm.com
> > > > CC: 
>  galenfalg...@yahoo.com; 
>  
> tcrco...@texascavers.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Did you still want me to make the pineapple upsidedown cake? I can 
> > > > probably make 2 or 4 if you want. What details do you need from me 
> > > > concerning the recipe?
> > > >
> > > > --Matt
> > > >

RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...

2011-10-01 Thread jociehooper

I can make 6 pans of coconut bars...I think I said 5 earlier.  Jocie
 Denise P  wrote: 
> 
> That gives us 364 dessert servings. Is that enough? Maybe we could buy some 
> chocolates or something. I just don't want people to be left craving 
> something sweet and we're short on dessert. -d
>  CC: stefan.crea...@arm.com; tcrco...@texascavers.com
> From: aim...@yahoo.com
> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 11:00:54 -0500
> To: pepabe...@hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> 
> About 3 doz at least. 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 30, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Denise P  wrote:
> 
> 
> Cool. How many will that make?
>  
> -Denise
>  
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 20:35:14 -0700
> From: aim...@yahoo.com
> To: pepabe...@hotmail.com; stefan.crea...@arm.com
> CC: tcrco...@texascavers.com
> Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> 
> I have a cupcake angel who is going to help me whip up three boxes of duncan 
> hinds spice flavored cakes with homemade vanilla frosting.  Work for you 
> guys? 
> 
> From: Denise P 
> To: Stefan Creaser 
> Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:21 PM
> Subject: RE:
>  [tcrcooks] Menu...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> No, I am out of town with a mom who has just had a triple bypass. I'll be 
> lucky to make it back in town for TCR.
>  
> -Denise
>  
> > From: stefan.crea...@arm.com
> > To: pepabe...@hotmail.com
> > CC: tcrco...@texascavers.com
> > Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 19:00:58 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> > 
> > Have you tried to recruit any more people?
> > 
> > Sent from my iPad
> > 
> > On Sep 29, 2011, at 8:06 PM, "Denise P" 
> > mailto:pepabe...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > If we don't get more volunteers for dessert, we will need to buy something 
> > ready made. Ideas?
> > 
> > -Denise
> > 
> > 
> > Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:49:58 -0500
> > From:  
> > mrzap...@gmail.com
> > To: 
>  pepabe...@hotmail.com
> > CC: jociehoo...@austin.rr.com; 
> > stefan.crea...@arm.com; 
> > galenfalg...@yahoo.com; 
> >  
> > tcrco...@texascavers.com
> > Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> > 
> > I'm going to do 4 cakes, each of which could serve about 16.  So, that 
> > gives us 64.  The cakes are going to require deep 10 to 12 inch cast iron 
> > skillets.  So, if we can find someone else to help make the cakes, we'll 
> > still need to make sure they have the skillets.
> > 
> > 2011/9/29 Denise P 
> > <pepabe...@hotmail.com>
> > I can make 6. That gves us 264. With Matt's 2 cakes (shoot I forget how 
> > many servings each was), we will still neeed more desserts. Can
>  someone recruit a person to make more cakes?
> > 
> > -Denise
> > 
> > > Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:08:45 -0500
> > 
> > > From:  
> > > jociehoo...@austin.rr.com
> > > To:  
> > > mrzap...@gmail.com; 
> > >  
> > > stefan.crea...@arm.com; 
> > >  
> > > pepabe...@hotmail.com
> > 
> > > CC:  
> > > galenfalg...@yahoo.com; 
> > >  
> > > tcrco...@texascavers.com
> > > Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> > 
> > >
> > > My Coconut Bars make 24 in a 13 x 9" baking pan. I thought I would make 
> > > at least 5 pans. How
>  many can you do Denise? Matt might have to make only 5 Upside Down cakes - 
> depends on how many cast iron skillets he can rustle up. Jocie
> > >  Denise P 
> > > <pepabe...@hotmail.com>
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 4 cakes would be how many servings? We might need someone else to make 
> > > > some more cakes as Jocie and I were covering only half the desserts.
> > > >
> > > > -Denise
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:53:16 -0500
> > > > From:  
> > > > mrzap...@gmail.com
> > > > To:  
> > > > stefan.crea...@arm.com
> > > > CC: 
>  galenfalg...@yahoo.com; 
>  
> tcrco...@texascavers.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Did you still want me to make the pineapple upsidedown cake? I can 
> > > > probably make 2 or 4 if you want. What details do you need from me 
> > > > concerning the recipe?
> > > >
> > > > --Matt
> > > >

RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...

2011-10-01 Thread jociehooper

I can make 6 pans of coconut bars...I think I said 5 earlier.  Jocie
 Denise P  wrote: 
> 
> That gives us 364 dessert servings. Is that enough? Maybe we could buy some 
> chocolates or something. I just don't want people to be left craving 
> something sweet and we're short on dessert. -d
>  CC: stefan.crea...@arm.com; tcrco...@texascavers.com
> From: aim...@yahoo.com
> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 11:00:54 -0500
> To: pepabe...@hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> 
> About 3 doz at least. 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 30, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Denise P  wrote:
> 
> 
> Cool. How many will that make?
>  
> -Denise
>  
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 20:35:14 -0700
> From: aim...@yahoo.com
> To: pepabe...@hotmail.com; stefan.crea...@arm.com
> CC: tcrco...@texascavers.com
> Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> 
> I have a cupcake angel who is going to help me whip up three boxes of duncan 
> hinds spice flavored cakes with homemade vanilla frosting.  Work for you 
> guys? 
> 
> From: Denise P 
> To: Stefan Creaser 
> Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:21 PM
> Subject: RE:
>  [tcrcooks] Menu...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> No, I am out of town with a mom who has just had a triple bypass. I'll be 
> lucky to make it back in town for TCR.
>  
> -Denise
>  
> > From: stefan.crea...@arm.com
> > To: pepabe...@hotmail.com
> > CC: tcrco...@texascavers.com
> > Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 19:00:58 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> > 
> > Have you tried to recruit any more people?
> > 
> > Sent from my iPad
> > 
> > On Sep 29, 2011, at 8:06 PM, "Denise P" 
> > mailto:pepabe...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > If we don't get more volunteers for dessert, we will need to buy something 
> > ready made. Ideas?
> > 
> > -Denise
> > 
> > 
> > Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:49:58 -0500
> > From:  
> > mrzap...@gmail.com
> > To: 
>  pepabe...@hotmail.com
> > CC: jociehoo...@austin.rr.com; 
> > stefan.crea...@arm.com; 
> > galenfalg...@yahoo.com; 
> >  
> > tcrco...@texascavers.com
> > Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> > 
> > I'm going to do 4 cakes, each of which could serve about 16.  So, that 
> > gives us 64.  The cakes are going to require deep 10 to 12 inch cast iron 
> > skillets.  So, if we can find someone else to help make the cakes, we'll 
> > still need to make sure they have the skillets.
> > 
> > 2011/9/29 Denise P 
> > <pepabe...@hotmail.com>
> > I can make 6. That gves us 264. With Matt's 2 cakes (shoot I forget how 
> > many servings each was), we will still neeed more desserts. Can
>  someone recruit a person to make more cakes?
> > 
> > -Denise
> > 
> > > Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:08:45 -0500
> > 
> > > From:  
> > > jociehoo...@austin.rr.com
> > > To:  
> > > mrzap...@gmail.com; 
> > >  
> > > stefan.crea...@arm.com; 
> > >  
> > > pepabe...@hotmail.com
> > 
> > > CC:  
> > > galenfalg...@yahoo.com; 
> > >  
> > > tcrco...@texascavers.com
> > > Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> > 
> > >
> > > My Coconut Bars make 24 in a 13 x 9" baking pan. I thought I would make 
> > > at least 5 pans. How
>  many can you do Denise? Matt might have to make only 5 Upside Down cakes - 
> depends on how many cast iron skillets he can rustle up. Jocie
> > >  Denise P 
> > > <pepabe...@hotmail.com>
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 4 cakes would be how many servings? We might need someone else to make 
> > > > some more cakes as Jocie and I were covering only half the desserts.
> > > >
> > > > -Denise
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:53:16 -0500
> > > > From:  
> > > > mrzap...@gmail.com
> > > > To:  
> > > > stefan.crea...@arm.com
> > > > CC: 
>  galenfalg...@yahoo.com; 
>  
> tcrco...@texascavers.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Did you still want me to make the pineapple upsidedown cake? I can 
> > > > probably make 2 or 4 if you want. What details do you need from me 
> > > > concerning the recipe?
> > > >
> > > > --Matt
> > > >

Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...

2011-10-01 Thread jociehooper

Thank you!! Jocie
 Aimee Beveridge  wrote: 
> I have a cupcake angel who is going to help me whip up three boxes of duncan 
> hinds spice flavored cakes with homemade vanilla frosting.  Work for you 
> guys? 




From: Denise P 
To: Stefan Creaser 
Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:21 PM
Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...


 
No, I am out of town with a mom who has just had a triple bypass. I'll be lucky 
to make it back in town for TCR.
 
-Denise
 

> From: stefan.crea...@arm.com
> To: pepabe...@hotmail.com
> CC: tcrco...@texascavers.com
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 19:00:58 -0700
> Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> 
> Have you tried to recruit any more people?
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Sep 29, 2011, at 8:06 PM, "Denise P" 
> mailto:pepabe...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> If we don't get more volunteers for dessert, we will need to buy something 
> ready made. Ideas?
> 
> -Denise
> 
> 
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:49:58 -0500
> From:  
> mrzap...@gmail.com
> To:  
> pepabe...@hotmail.com
> CC: jociehoo...@austin.rr.com; 
> stefan.crea...@arm.com; 
> galenfalg...@yahoo.com; 
>  
> tcrco...@texascavers.com
> Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> 
> I'm going to do 4 cakes, each of which could serve about 16.  So, that gives 
> us 64.  The cakes are going to require deep 10 to 12 inch cast iron skillets. 
>  So, if we can find someone else to help make the cakes, we'll still need to 
> make sure they have the skillets.
> 
> 2011/9/29 Denise P 
> <pepabe...@hotmail.com>
> I can make 6. That gves us 264. With Matt's 2 cakes (shoot I forget how many 
> servings each was), we will still neeed more desserts. Can someone recruit a 
> person to make more cakes?
> 
> -Denise
> 
> > Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:08:45 -0500
> 
> > From:  
> > jociehoo...@austin.rr.com
> > To:  
> > mrzap...@gmail.com; 
> >  
> > stefan.crea...@arm.com; 
> >  
> > pepabe...@hotmail.com
> 
> > CC:  
> > galenfalg...@yahoo.com; 
> >  
> > tcrco...@texascavers.com
> > Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> 
> >
> > My Coconut Bars make 24 in a 13 x 9" baking pan. I thought I would make at 
> > least 5 pans. How many can you do Denise? Matt might have to make only 5 
> > Upside Down cakes - depends on how many cast iron skillets he can rustle 
> > up. Jocie
> >  Denise P 
> > <pepabe...@hotmail.com>
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > 4 cakes would be how many servings? We might need someone else to make 
> > > some more cakes as Jocie and I were covering only half the desserts.
> > >
> > > -Denise
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:53:16 -0500
> > > From:  
> > > mrzap...@gmail.com
> > > To:  
> > > stefan.crea...@arm.com
> > > CC:  
> > > galenfalg...@yahoo.com; 
> > >  
> > > tcrco...@texascavers.com
> > > Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> > >
> > >
> > > Did you still want me to make the pineapple upsidedown cake? I can 
> > > probably make 2 or 4 if you want. What details do you need from me 
> > > concerning the recipe?
> > >
> > > --Matt
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Stefan Creaser 
> > > <stefan.crea...@arm.com>
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > That sounds like a good deal, as long as the shipping costs aren't that 
> > > high.
> > >
> > > Will that be 50lbs of 'meat', or how much would we expect after 
> > > processing?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From:  
> > > galenfalg...@yahoo.com 
> > > [mailto:galenfalg...@yahoo.com]
> > > Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 12:39 PM
> > > To:  
> > > galenfalg...@yahoo.com; Stefan Creaser; 
> > > Heather Tucek;  
> > > tcrco...@texascavers.com
> > > Subject: Re: [tcrcooks

Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...

2011-10-01 Thread jociehooper

Thank you!! Jocie
 Aimee Beveridge  wrote: 
> I have a cupcake angel who is going to help me whip up three boxes of duncan 
> hinds spice flavored cakes with homemade vanilla frosting.  Work for you 
> guys? 




From: Denise P 
To: Stefan Creaser 
Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:21 PM
Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...


 
No, I am out of town with a mom who has just had a triple bypass. I'll be lucky 
to make it back in town for TCR.
 
-Denise
 

> From: stefan.crea...@arm.com
> To: pepabe...@hotmail.com
> CC: tcrco...@texascavers.com
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 19:00:58 -0700
> Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> 
> Have you tried to recruit any more people?
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Sep 29, 2011, at 8:06 PM, "Denise P" 
> mailto:pepabe...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> If we don't get more volunteers for dessert, we will need to buy something 
> ready made. Ideas?
> 
> -Denise
> 
> 
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:49:58 -0500
> From:  
> mrzap...@gmail.com
> To:  
> pepabe...@hotmail.com
> CC: jociehoo...@austin.rr.com; 
> stefan.crea...@arm.com; 
> galenfalg...@yahoo.com; 
>  
> tcrco...@texascavers.com
> Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> 
> I'm going to do 4 cakes, each of which could serve about 16.  So, that gives 
> us 64.  The cakes are going to require deep 10 to 12 inch cast iron skillets. 
>  So, if we can find someone else to help make the cakes, we'll still need to 
> make sure they have the skillets.
> 
> 2011/9/29 Denise P 
> <pepabe...@hotmail.com>
> I can make 6. That gves us 264. With Matt's 2 cakes (shoot I forget how many 
> servings each was), we will still neeed more desserts. Can someone recruit a 
> person to make more cakes?
> 
> -Denise
> 
> > Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:08:45 -0500
> 
> > From:  
> > jociehoo...@austin.rr.com
> > To:  
> > mrzap...@gmail.com; 
> >  
> > stefan.crea...@arm.com; 
> >  
> > pepabe...@hotmail.com
> 
> > CC:  
> > galenfalg...@yahoo.com; 
> >  
> > tcrco...@texascavers.com
> > Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> 
> >
> > My Coconut Bars make 24 in a 13 x 9" baking pan. I thought I would make at 
> > least 5 pans. How many can you do Denise? Matt might have to make only 5 
> > Upside Down cakes - depends on how many cast iron skillets he can rustle 
> > up. Jocie
> >  Denise P 
> > <pepabe...@hotmail.com>
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > 4 cakes would be how many servings? We might need someone else to make 
> > > some more cakes as Jocie and I were covering only half the desserts.
> > >
> > > -Denise
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:53:16 -0500
> > > From:  
> > > mrzap...@gmail.com
> > > To:  
> > > stefan.crea...@arm.com
> > > CC:  
> > > galenfalg...@yahoo.com; 
> > >  
> > > tcrco...@texascavers.com
> > > Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> > >
> > >
> > > Did you still want me to make the pineapple upsidedown cake? I can 
> > > probably make 2 or 4 if you want. What details do you need from me 
> > > concerning the recipe?
> > >
> > > --Matt
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Stefan Creaser 
> > > <stefan.crea...@arm.com>
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > That sounds like a good deal, as long as the shipping costs aren't that 
> > > high.
> > >
> > > Will that be 50lbs of 'meat', or how much would we expect after 
> > > processing?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From:  
> > > galenfalg...@yahoo.com 
> > > [mailto:galenfalg...@yahoo.com]
> > > Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 12:39 PM
> > > To:  
> > > galenfalg...@yahoo.com; Stefan Creaser; 
> > > Heather Tucek;  
> > > tcrco...@texascavers.com
> > > Subject: Re: [tcrcooks

Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...

2011-10-01 Thread jociehooper

Thank you!! Jocie
 Aimee Beveridge  wrote: 
> I have a cupcake angel who is going to help me whip up three boxes of duncan 
> hinds spice flavored cakes with homemade vanilla frosting.  Work for you 
> guys? 




From: Denise P 
To: Stefan Creaser 
Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:21 PM
Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...


 
No, I am out of town with a mom who has just had a triple bypass. I'll be lucky 
to make it back in town for TCR.
 
-Denise
 

> From: stefan.crea...@arm.com
> To: pepabe...@hotmail.com
> CC: tcrco...@texascavers.com
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 19:00:58 -0700
> Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> 
> Have you tried to recruit any more people?
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Sep 29, 2011, at 8:06 PM, "Denise P" 
> mailto:pepabe...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> If we don't get more volunteers for dessert, we will need to buy something 
> ready made. Ideas?
> 
> -Denise
> 
> 
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:49:58 -0500
> From:  
> mrzap...@gmail.com
> To:  
> pepabe...@hotmail.com
> CC: jociehoo...@austin.rr.com; 
> stefan.crea...@arm.com; 
> galenfalg...@yahoo.com; 
>  
> tcrco...@texascavers.com
> Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> 
> I'm going to do 4 cakes, each of which could serve about 16.  So, that gives 
> us 64.  The cakes are going to require deep 10 to 12 inch cast iron skillets. 
>  So, if we can find someone else to help make the cakes, we'll still need to 
> make sure they have the skillets.
> 
> 2011/9/29 Denise P 
> <pepabe...@hotmail.com>
> I can make 6. That gves us 264. With Matt's 2 cakes (shoot I forget how many 
> servings each was), we will still neeed more desserts. Can someone recruit a 
> person to make more cakes?
> 
> -Denise
> 
> > Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:08:45 -0500
> 
> > From:  
> > jociehoo...@austin.rr.com
> > To:  
> > mrzap...@gmail.com; 
> >  
> > stefan.crea...@arm.com; 
> >  
> > pepabe...@hotmail.com
> 
> > CC:  
> > galenfalg...@yahoo.com; 
> >  
> > tcrco...@texascavers.com
> > Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> 
> >
> > My Coconut Bars make 24 in a 13 x 9" baking pan. I thought I would make at 
> > least 5 pans. How many can you do Denise? Matt might have to make only 5 
> > Upside Down cakes - depends on how many cast iron skillets he can rustle 
> > up. Jocie
> >  Denise P 
> > <pepabe...@hotmail.com>
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > 4 cakes would be how many servings? We might need someone else to make 
> > > some more cakes as Jocie and I were covering only half the desserts.
> > >
> > > -Denise
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:53:16 -0500
> > > From:  
> > > mrzap...@gmail.com
> > > To:  
> > > stefan.crea...@arm.com
> > > CC:  
> > > galenfalg...@yahoo.com; 
> > >  
> > > tcrco...@texascavers.com
> > > Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> > >
> > >
> > > Did you still want me to make the pineapple upsidedown cake? I can 
> > > probably make 2 or 4 if you want. What details do you need from me 
> > > concerning the recipe?
> > >
> > > --Matt
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Stefan Creaser 
> > > <stefan.crea...@arm.com>
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > That sounds like a good deal, as long as the shipping costs aren't that 
> > > high.
> > >
> > > Will that be 50lbs of 'meat', or how much would we expect after 
> > > processing?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From:  
> > > galenfalg...@yahoo.com 
> > > [mailto:galenfalg...@yahoo.com]
> > > Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 12:39 PM
> > > To:  
> > > galenfalg...@yahoo.com; Stefan Creaser; 
> > > Heather Tucek;  
> > > tcrco...@texascavers.com
> > > Subject: Re: [tcrcooks

RE: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier

2011-10-01 Thread jociehooper

I have a couple of carriers.  Jocie
 Andy Zenker  wrote: 
> And I just checked again and found another cake carrier that's about 3 inches 
> tall so I have 4 carriers total.
> 
> Andy
> 
> --- On Wed, 9/28/11, Stefan Creaser  wrote:
> 
> From: Stefan Creaser 
> Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier
> To: "Andy Zenker" , "tcrco...@texascavers.com" 
> 
> Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 6:17 PM
> 
> 

 
 


I have been scavenging those from work; got 3 today, I think I have 2 or 3 more 
at home :-) 
   

From: Andy Zenker [mailto:andyzen...@yahoo.com]

> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 6:09 PM
> 
To: tcrco...@texascavers.com
> 
Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier 

   




Matt, I also have these.
> 

> 
Andy
> 

> 
--- On Wed, 9/28/11, Andy Zenker  wrote: 

> 
From: Andy Zenker 
> 
Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier
> 
To: "tcrco...@texascavers.com" 
> 
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 12:39 PM 





Agreed.  Carriers are for moving the food, not as a cutting/serving boards.
> 

> 
I just remembered that I may have some other large party tray style containers 
with lids.  I'll check this evening and send a picture.
> 

> 
Andy Z
> 

> 
--- On Wed, 9/28/11, Matthew Zappitello  wrote: 

> 
From: Matthew Zappitello 
> 
Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> 
To: "Andy Zenker" 
> 
Cc: "tcrco...@texascavers.com" 
> 
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 9:46 AM 


Mine is similar.  I would not serve the cake in these.  I would have some other 
serving dish, since I wouldn't want anyone to gouge my cake carrier with a 
knife. 


  


--Matt 


On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Andy Zenker  wrote: 




Mine is similar to the one in the attached photo
> 

> 
Andy Z 


> 

> 
--- On Wed, 9/28/11, Stefan Creaser  wrote: 




> 
From: Stefan Creaser  

Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> 
To: "Matthew Zappitello" , "Andy Zenker" 

> 
Cc: "tcrco...@texascavers.com" 
> 
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 9:03 AM 


Wot do they look like? 
  

From: Matthew Zappitello [mailto:mrzap...@gmail.com]

> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 7:36 AM
> 
To: Andy Zenker
> 
Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com
> 
Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu... 

  
Awesome!  Thanks.  That makes two with mine.  Two more, anyone? 

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Andy Zenker  wrote: 




Matt, 



I have a cake carrier I can loan out. 



Andy Z 




  







From: Matthew Zappitello 
> 
To: Stefan Creaser 
> 
Cc: "tcrco...@texascavers.com" 
> 
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 4:38 PM
> 
Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu... 




You might try to cook them in those large rectangular trays, but I doubt they'd 
turn out as well.  The way I cook them is in a 12 inch cast iron skillet.  I 
caramelize the sugar and pineapple to start, then put the batter on top and
 cook it directly in the pan.  Then, you flip it out onto a plate and voila, 
heaven on a plate!!!  Jocie already lent me her cast iron skillet, which is why 
I have 2.  I wouldn't want to make 8 cakes myself, but if we can get other 
people to help, I'd be happy
 to convey all the instructions.
> 

> 
--Matt 


On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Stefan Creaser  wrote: 




Could these be cooked in the large rectangular metal trays I use for my BBQ? 
Being rectangular may make them easy to cut, serve and transport. 



  



I think we’d want at least twice that amount, and would still need something 
else to get the numbers for dessert up to close to 400. ATM we have 200 
cookies/bars from Jocie/Denise. 



  



Do you have an approximate cost per cake? 



  



Cheers, 



Stefan 



  



From: Matthew Zappitello [mailto:mrzap...@gmail.com]

> 
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 5:11 PM
> 
To: Stefan Creaser
> 
Cc: 
tcrco...@texascavers.com
> 
Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu... 






  



This cake can be served at ambient temperature.  Nothing needs to be served 
with it.  I could really use a way to transport them.  If anyone has any cake 
carriers, that would be perfect.  I've got one, but I'll need 3 more to carry
 all four cakes.  The cakes are going to be circular with 12 inch diameters.  
My guess is that you could serve 16 people per cake for a total of 56 people 
with the 4 cakes, but you might be a better judge of serving size and whatnot.
> 

> 
The recipe calls for the following (per cake, so multiply by 4): 



1 1/4 stick of Earth Balance Buttery Sticks or Willow Run Margarine sticks 
(these have not dairy at all)
284 grams Dark Brown Sugar
1 20 oz. can sliced pineapple in heavy syrup
9 maraschino cherries (even a small bottle will probably cover two cakes)
26 grams pecans
169 grams All Purpose Flour
6 grams Baking Powder
3 grams Salt
4 large Eggs
248 grams Granulated Sugar 


If I really needed to, I could probably manage making 6 cakes, but I would love 
some help.  The cakes last well for 5 days at room temperature, so it's 
relatively easy to make t

RE: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier

2011-10-01 Thread jociehooper

I have a couple of carriers.  Jocie
 Andy Zenker  wrote: 
> And I just checked again and found another cake carrier that's about 3 inches 
> tall so I have 4 carriers total.
> 
> Andy
> 
> --- On Wed, 9/28/11, Stefan Creaser  wrote:
> 
> From: Stefan Creaser 
> Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier
> To: "Andy Zenker" , "tcrco...@texascavers.com" 
> 
> Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 6:17 PM
> 
> 

 
 


I have been scavenging those from work; got 3 today, I think I have 2 or 3 more 
at home :-) 
   

From: Andy Zenker [mailto:andyzen...@yahoo.com]

> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 6:09 PM
> 
To: tcrco...@texascavers.com
> 
Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier 

   




Matt, I also have these.
> 

> 
Andy
> 

> 
--- On Wed, 9/28/11, Andy Zenker  wrote: 

> 
From: Andy Zenker 
> 
Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier
> 
To: "tcrco...@texascavers.com" 
> 
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 12:39 PM 





Agreed.  Carriers are for moving the food, not as a cutting/serving boards.
> 

> 
I just remembered that I may have some other large party tray style containers 
with lids.  I'll check this evening and send a picture.
> 

> 
Andy Z
> 

> 
--- On Wed, 9/28/11, Matthew Zappitello  wrote: 

> 
From: Matthew Zappitello 
> 
Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> 
To: "Andy Zenker" 
> 
Cc: "tcrco...@texascavers.com" 
> 
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 9:46 AM 


Mine is similar.  I would not serve the cake in these.  I would have some other 
serving dish, since I wouldn't want anyone to gouge my cake carrier with a 
knife. 


  


--Matt 


On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Andy Zenker  wrote: 




Mine is similar to the one in the attached photo
> 

> 
Andy Z 


> 

> 
--- On Wed, 9/28/11, Stefan Creaser  wrote: 




> 
From: Stefan Creaser  

Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> 
To: "Matthew Zappitello" , "Andy Zenker" 

> 
Cc: "tcrco...@texascavers.com" 
> 
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 9:03 AM 


Wot do they look like? 
  

From: Matthew Zappitello [mailto:mrzap...@gmail.com]

> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 7:36 AM
> 
To: Andy Zenker
> 
Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com
> 
Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu... 

  
Awesome!  Thanks.  That makes two with mine.  Two more, anyone? 

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Andy Zenker  wrote: 




Matt, 



I have a cake carrier I can loan out. 



Andy Z 




  







From: Matthew Zappitello 
> 
To: Stefan Creaser 
> 
Cc: "tcrco...@texascavers.com" 
> 
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 4:38 PM
> 
Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu... 




You might try to cook them in those large rectangular trays, but I doubt they'd 
turn out as well.  The way I cook them is in a 12 inch cast iron skillet.  I 
caramelize the sugar and pineapple to start, then put the batter on top and
 cook it directly in the pan.  Then, you flip it out onto a plate and voila, 
heaven on a plate!!!  Jocie already lent me her cast iron skillet, which is why 
I have 2.  I wouldn't want to make 8 cakes myself, but if we can get other 
people to help, I'd be happy
 to convey all the instructions.
> 

> 
--Matt 


On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Stefan Creaser  wrote: 




Could these be cooked in the large rectangular metal trays I use for my BBQ? 
Being rectangular may make them easy to cut, serve and transport. 



  



I think we’d want at least twice that amount, and would still need something 
else to get the numbers for dessert up to close to 400. ATM we have 200 
cookies/bars from Jocie/Denise. 



  



Do you have an approximate cost per cake? 



  



Cheers, 



Stefan 



  



From: Matthew Zappitello [mailto:mrzap...@gmail.com]

> 
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 5:11 PM
> 
To: Stefan Creaser
> 
Cc: 
tcrco...@texascavers.com
> 
Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu... 






  



This cake can be served at ambient temperature.  Nothing needs to be served 
with it.  I could really use a way to transport them.  If anyone has any cake 
carriers, that would be perfect.  I've got one, but I'll need 3 more to carry
 all four cakes.  The cakes are going to be circular with 12 inch diameters.  
My guess is that you could serve 16 people per cake for a total of 56 people 
with the 4 cakes, but you might be a better judge of serving size and whatnot.
> 

> 
The recipe calls for the following (per cake, so multiply by 4): 



1 1/4 stick of Earth Balance Buttery Sticks or Willow Run Margarine sticks 
(these have not dairy at all)
284 grams Dark Brown Sugar
1 20 oz. can sliced pineapple in heavy syrup
9 maraschino cherries (even a small bottle will probably cover two cakes)
26 grams pecans
169 grams All Purpose Flour
6 grams Baking Powder
3 grams Salt
4 large Eggs
248 grams Granulated Sugar 


If I really needed to, I could probably manage making 6 cakes, but I would love 
some help.  The cakes last well for 5 days at room temperature, so it's 
relatively easy to make t

RE: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier

2011-10-01 Thread jociehooper

I have a couple of carriers.  Jocie
 Andy Zenker  wrote: 
> And I just checked again and found another cake carrier that's about 3 inches 
> tall so I have 4 carriers total.
> 
> Andy
> 
> --- On Wed, 9/28/11, Stefan Creaser  wrote:
> 
> From: Stefan Creaser 
> Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier
> To: "Andy Zenker" , "tcrco...@texascavers.com" 
> 
> Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 6:17 PM
> 
> 

 
 


I have been scavenging those from work; got 3 today, I think I have 2 or 3 more 
at home :-) 
   

From: Andy Zenker [mailto:andyzen...@yahoo.com]

> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 6:09 PM
> 
To: tcrco...@texascavers.com
> 
Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier 

   




Matt, I also have these.
> 

> 
Andy
> 

> 
--- On Wed, 9/28/11, Andy Zenker  wrote: 

> 
From: Andy Zenker 
> 
Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier
> 
To: "tcrco...@texascavers.com" 
> 
Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 12:39 PM 





Agreed.  Carriers are for moving the food, not as a cutting/serving boards.
> 

> 
I just remembered that I may have some other large party tray style containers 
with lids.  I'll check this evening and send a picture.
> 

> 
Andy Z
> 

> 
--- On Wed, 9/28/11, Matthew Zappitello  wrote: 

> 
From: Matthew Zappitello 
> 
Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> 
To: "Andy Zenker" 
> 
Cc: "tcrco...@texascavers.com" 
> 
Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 9:46 AM 


Mine is similar.  I would not serve the cake in these.  I would have some other 
serving dish, since I wouldn't want anyone to gouge my cake carrier with a 
knife. 


  


--Matt 


On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Andy Zenker  wrote: 




Mine is similar to the one in the attached photo
> 

> 
Andy Z 


> 

> 
--- On Wed, 9/28/11, Stefan Creaser  wrote: 




> 
From: Stefan Creaser  

Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...
> 
To: "Matthew Zappitello" , "Andy Zenker" 

> 
Cc: "tcrco...@texascavers.com" 
> 
Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 9:03 AM 


Wot do they look like? 
  

From: Matthew Zappitello [mailto:mrzap...@gmail.com]

> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 7:36 AM
> 
To: Andy Zenker
> 
Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com
> 
Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu... 

  
Awesome!  Thanks.  That makes two with mine.  Two more, anyone? 

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Andy Zenker  wrote: 




Matt, 



I have a cake carrier I can loan out. 



Andy Z 




  







From: Matthew Zappitello 
> 
To: Stefan Creaser 
> 
Cc: "tcrco...@texascavers.com" 
> 
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 4:38 PM
> 
Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu... 




You might try to cook them in those large rectangular trays, but I doubt they'd 
turn out as well.  The way I cook them is in a 12 inch cast iron skillet.  I 
caramelize the sugar and pineapple to start, then put the batter on top and
 cook it directly in the pan.  Then, you flip it out onto a plate and voila, 
heaven on a plate!!!  Jocie already lent me her cast iron skillet, which is why 
I have 2.  I wouldn't want to make 8 cakes myself, but if we can get other 
people to help, I'd be happy
 to convey all the instructions.
> 

> 
--Matt 


On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Stefan Creaser  wrote: 




Could these be cooked in the large rectangular metal trays I use for my BBQ? 
Being rectangular may make them easy to cut, serve and transport. 



  



I think we’d want at least twice that amount, and would still need something 
else to get the numbers for dessert up to close to 400. ATM we have 200 
cookies/bars from Jocie/Denise. 



  



Do you have an approximate cost per cake? 



  



Cheers, 



Stefan 



  



From: Matthew Zappitello [mailto:mrzap...@gmail.com]

> 
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 5:11 PM
> 
To: Stefan Creaser
> 
Cc: 
tcrco...@texascavers.com
> 
Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu... 






  



This cake can be served at ambient temperature.  Nothing needs to be served 
with it.  I could really use a way to transport them.  If anyone has any cake 
carriers, that would be perfect.  I've got one, but I'll need 3 more to carry
 all four cakes.  The cakes are going to be circular with 12 inch diameters.  
My guess is that you could serve 16 people per cake for a total of 56 people 
with the 4 cakes, but you might be a better judge of serving size and whatnot.
> 

> 
The recipe calls for the following (per cake, so multiply by 4): 



1 1/4 stick of Earth Balance Buttery Sticks or Willow Run Margarine sticks 
(these have not dairy at all)
284 grams Dark Brown Sugar
1 20 oz. can sliced pineapple in heavy syrup
9 maraschino cherries (even a small bottle will probably cover two cakes)
26 grams pecans
169 grams All Purpose Flour
6 grams Baking Powder
3 grams Salt
4 large Eggs
248 grams Granulated Sugar 


If I really needed to, I could probably manage making 6 cakes, but I would love 
some help.  The cakes last well for 5 days at room temperature, so it's 
relatively easy to make them in advance.  But, I can only fit two cakes at a 
time
 in my oven and they take at least an hour to cook, not inc

[Texascavers] Holy Batcow!

2011-10-01 Thread Logan McNatt

This will give you a chuckle.  I have seen some of the cows around Austin but just now found out about the batcow.  Definitely a new species, 
/bovinus./


http://cowparadeaustin.com/photo-gallery

http://pentagram.com/en/new/2011/09/holy-batcow.php#more

LowGun

[Texascavers] Holy Batcow!

2011-10-01 Thread Logan McNatt

This will give you a chuckle.  I have seen some of the cows around Austin but just now found out about the batcow.  Definitely a new species, 
/bovinus./


http://cowparadeaustin.com/photo-gallery

http://pentagram.com/en/new/2011/09/holy-batcow.php#more

LowGun

[Texascavers] Holy Batcow!

2011-10-01 Thread Logan McNatt

This will give you a chuckle.  I have seen some of the cows around Austin but just now found out about the batcow.  Definitely a new species, 
/bovinus./


http://cowparadeaustin.com/photo-gallery

http://pentagram.com/en/new/2011/09/holy-batcow.php#more

LowGun

[Texascavers] Re: Excellent grotto meeting program

2011-10-01 Thread Alex Sproul

>I think it's my favorite caving movie of all time.

I think you nailed it, Bill!  L'Abisso has that magic combination of 
the thrill of new exploration, the link to past generations, enjoyable, 
'real' characters with some depth, suberb videography, and a great 
score.  It's a vibrant and beautiful tribute to the passion of caving.

I was delighted to premiere it at the ICS, and have the producers 
there to see its popularity and receive their award.

When somebody wants to know what caving is all about, that's 
what I show 'em!  
Alex

--
Alex Sproul
NSS 8086RL/FE
NSS Webmaster
www.caves.org

[Texascavers] Re: Excellent grotto meeting program

2011-10-01 Thread Alex Sproul

>I think it's my favorite caving movie of all time.

I think you nailed it, Bill!  L'Abisso has that magic combination of 
the thrill of new exploration, the link to past generations, enjoyable, 
'real' characters with some depth, suberb videography, and a great 
score.  It's a vibrant and beautiful tribute to the passion of caving.

I was delighted to premiere it at the ICS, and have the producers 
there to see its popularity and receive their award.

When somebody wants to know what caving is all about, that's 
what I show 'em!  
Alex

--
Alex Sproul
NSS 8086RL/FE
NSS Webmaster
www.caves.org

[Texascavers] Re: Excellent grotto meeting program

2011-10-01 Thread Alex Sproul

>I think it's my favorite caving movie of all time.

I think you nailed it, Bill!  L'Abisso has that magic combination of 
the thrill of new exploration, the link to past generations, enjoyable, 
'real' characters with some depth, suberb videography, and a great 
score.  It's a vibrant and beautiful tribute to the passion of caving.

I was delighted to premiere it at the ICS, and have the producers 
there to see its popularity and receive their award.

When somebody wants to know what caving is all about, that's 
what I show 'em!  
Alex

--
Alex Sproul
NSS 8086RL/FE
NSS Webmaster
www.caves.org

texascavers Digest 1 Oct 2011 16:56:35 -0000 Issue 1401

2011-10-01 Thread texascavers-digest-help

texascavers Digest 1 Oct 2011 16:56:35 - Issue 1401

Topics (messages 18664 through 18677):

Re: Schelten's take and other opinions
18664 by: David

Excellent grotto meeting program
18665 by: Speleosteele.aol.com
18674 by: Mark Minton

A google earth alternative
18666 by: BMorgan994.aol.com
18667 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net
18669 by: caverarch

S.P.R.A.T.
18668 by: Julia Germany

$1 Protects the Water Supply of 40 Million Americans
18670 by: George Veni

Re: NSS Headquarters: John Schelten's Take
18671 by: Alex Sproul

Re: Retractable lanyard recall
18672 by: Louise Power

Lost souls
18673 by: Ron Ralph

great photos
18675 by: Mixon Bill

glacier caving video
18676 by: Mixon Bill

Avery Ranch Panoramic View
18677 by: Lyndon Tiu

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--
--- Begin Message ---
A month ago, I posted a negative statement about the direction the NSS
was taking.

Mr. Schelten's letter posted yesterday, voiced some of the same
concerns but in a different language.

My take is,

the NSS should NOT buy any blank building property unless the deal is simply
too awesome to turn down.

I have only taken one economics class in college, but I don't see
anything going on in
our economy to make it improve. I only see things that indicate it
is going to get
worse. A handful of NSS members are going to struggle to survive
in the coming years.
They are going to have less resources to help the NSS with it's
financial burdens. Many of
the dedicated old-timers, are going to be in nursing homes or worse.

I do agree with Mr. Schelten, that initial risk of buying property is
much lower than
buying the temple. However, I feel that risk is still too high.

It is often better to down-size and re-assess the market.That is what every
business in America has to do to survive. I have been
self-employed for 13 years,
and have had to operate on a budget that all accountants would claim is
impossible.

The current youth that may be potential NSS members someday, are going to
be less interested in caving, than the same market group was 10 years
ago. This opinion,
is in part due to the competition caving has with so many other
activities.Youth today like video games,
and video games are about to become even more addictive.When the
3D iPad tablet hits the
market in 5 years or so, the youth are going to spend every financial
resource they have to
get their hands on one, and spend all their spare time trying to
master it. If you don't believe me,
go take a look at some of the 3D games already available on the new LG
Thrill cell-phone.
Once Facebook Timeline goes 3D in about 10 years, the world we know
today will most likely
be irrelevant, in a manner like Mayberry is to today's youth.

[ Side note: A far-fetched worst-case scenario view was expressed a
few months ago by the
Locklear impersonator claiming to be from the future. In that
bizarre abstract, he or she suggested
young people growing up in an environment saturated by Facebook may
de-evolve into a mutated
human sub-species.( That was not me, by the way ).Let's hope
that doesn't happen. But
still, any potential scenario should be taken into consideration when
planning for the long-term future
of the NSS headquarters. ]

And to add to the bleak outlook,

the unexpected effects from outside forces, like the WNS problem,
demographic changes
in population, cave closures, the rising cost of living, $ 5 a gallon
gas, global warming, national
political policy, caring for the baby boomer generation, etc. are not
going to help the NSS in the
era where the NSS would be operating the proposed headquarters.

The NSS must NOW hunker-down and take a survival approach to its
economic strategy.
They need a written plan for a worst-case scenario, and hope for better.

But not all is bad,

We won't be eating crackers made of Soylent Green this century, and
there will be lots of good things in the pipe-line
for our kids and grand-kids to come to be optimistic about living.
More cavers may own caves.LED lights and battery
technology will allow us to go caving for days underground on the same
charge.Some tablet apps
will make it easier to do caving related things, or at least more fun
to be an armchair caver. We will be able to watch
our caving videos in HD on an 92 inch screen, if not bigger.

David Locklear
NSS # 27639
Independent caver in Fort Bend County, Texas

Ref:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayberry

http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/09/lg-thrill-4g-review/

http://www.amazon.com/Mitsubishi-WD-92840-92-Inch-1080p-Projection/dp/B004ZL2O9U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1317279212&sr=8-1
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texascavers Digest 1 Oct 2011 16:56:35 -0000 Issue 1401

2011-10-01 Thread texascavers-digest-help

texascavers Digest 1 Oct 2011 16:56:35 - Issue 1401

Topics (messages 18664 through 18677):

Re: Schelten's take and other opinions
18664 by: David

Excellent grotto meeting program
18665 by: Speleosteele.aol.com
18674 by: Mark Minton

A google earth alternative
18666 by: BMorgan994.aol.com
18667 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net
18669 by: caverarch

S.P.R.A.T.
18668 by: Julia Germany

$1 Protects the Water Supply of 40 Million Americans
18670 by: George Veni

Re: NSS Headquarters: John Schelten's Take
18671 by: Alex Sproul

Re: Retractable lanyard recall
18672 by: Louise Power

Lost souls
18673 by: Ron Ralph

great photos
18675 by: Mixon Bill

glacier caving video
18676 by: Mixon Bill

Avery Ranch Panoramic View
18677 by: Lyndon Tiu

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A month ago, I posted a negative statement about the direction the NSS
was taking.

Mr. Schelten's letter posted yesterday, voiced some of the same
concerns but in a different language.

My take is,

the NSS should NOT buy any blank building property unless the deal is simply
too awesome to turn down.

I do agree with Mr. Schelten, that initial risk of buying property is
much lower than
buying the temple. However, I feel that risk is still too high.

And to add to the bleak outlook,

The NSS must NOW hunker-down and take a survival approach to its
economic strategy.
They need a written plan for a worst-case scenario, and hope for better.

But not all is bad,

David Locklear
NSS # 27639
Independent caver in Fort Bend County, Texas

Ref:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayberry

http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/09/lg-thrill-4g-review/

http://www.amazon.com/Mitsubishi-WD-92840-92-Inch-1080p-Projection/dp/B004ZL2O9U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1317279212&sr=8-1
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texascavers Digest 1 Oct 2011 16:56:35 -0000 Issue 1401

2011-10-01 Thread texascavers-digest-help

texascavers Digest 1 Oct 2011 16:56:35 - Issue 1401

Topics (messages 18664 through 18677):

Re: Schelten's take and other opinions
18664 by: David

Excellent grotto meeting program
18665 by: Speleosteele.aol.com
18674 by: Mark Minton

A google earth alternative
18666 by: BMorgan994.aol.com
18667 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net
18669 by: caverarch

S.P.R.A.T.
18668 by: Julia Germany

$1 Protects the Water Supply of 40 Million Americans
18670 by: George Veni

Re: NSS Headquarters: John Schelten's Take
18671 by: Alex Sproul

Re: Retractable lanyard recall
18672 by: Louise Power

Lost souls
18673 by: Ron Ralph

great photos
18675 by: Mixon Bill

glacier caving video
18676 by: Mixon Bill

Avery Ranch Panoramic View
18677 by: Lyndon Tiu

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--- Begin Message ---
A month ago, I posted a negative statement about the direction the NSS
was taking.

Mr. Schelten's letter posted yesterday, voiced some of the same
concerns but in a different language.

My take is,

the NSS should NOT buy any blank building property unless the deal is simply
too awesome to turn down.

I do agree with Mr. Schelten, that initial risk of buying property is
much lower than
buying the temple. However, I feel that risk is still too high.

And to add to the bleak outlook,

The NSS must NOW hunker-down and take a survival approach to its
economic strategy.
They need a written plan for a worst-case scenario, and hope for better.

But not all is bad,

David Locklear
NSS # 27639
Independent caver in Fort Bend County, Texas

Ref:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayberry

http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/09/lg-thrill-4g-review/

http://www.amazon.com/Mitsubishi-WD-92840-92-Inch-1080p-Projection/dp/B004ZL2O9U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1317279212&sr=8-1
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[Texascavers] Avery Ranch Panoramic View

2011-10-01 Thread Lyndon Tiu

On September 18, 2011, photographer Benedict Kim, Eunice Kim and Mike
Walsh went to Avery Ranch Cave to photograph the cave.

See the great new Avery Ranch Cave Panoramic View:
http://travel-informed.com/panos/tcc360v28/popup.html

Also, go to the Texas Cave Conservancy web site and look under TCC News.
http://texascaves.org/

While there, check our new SEARCH  link.

This is one reason that we have had over 375,000 visits since the new
web site went on line in April 2010. We are also working on obtaining
a clear copy of  “The Caves of Cedar Park” to add to our website.
Until then, check it out at YouTube “The Caves of Cedar Park. The TCC
has a large number of NSS News and the Texas Caver available for free.
If you are interested, contact us and we will bring them to the Texas
Caver’s Reunion.

tcc-ca...@austin.rr.com

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[Texascavers] Avery Ranch Panoramic View

2011-10-01 Thread Lyndon Tiu

On September 18, 2011, photographer Benedict Kim, Eunice Kim and Mike
Walsh went to Avery Ranch Cave to photograph the cave.

See the great new Avery Ranch Cave Panoramic View:
http://travel-informed.com/panos/tcc360v28/popup.html

Also, go to the Texas Cave Conservancy web site and look under TCC News.
http://texascaves.org/

While there, check our new SEARCH  link.

This is one reason that we have had over 375,000 visits since the new
web site went on line in April 2010. We are also working on obtaining
a clear copy of  “The Caves of Cedar Park” to add to our website.
Until then, check it out at YouTube “The Caves of Cedar Park. The TCC
has a large number of NSS News and the Texas Caver available for free.
If you are interested, contact us and we will bring them to the Texas
Caver’s Reunion.

tcc-ca...@austin.rr.com

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[Texascavers] Avery Ranch Panoramic View

2011-10-01 Thread Lyndon Tiu

On September 18, 2011, photographer Benedict Kim, Eunice Kim and Mike
Walsh went to Avery Ranch Cave to photograph the cave.

See the great new Avery Ranch Cave Panoramic View:
http://travel-informed.com/panos/tcc360v28/popup.html

Also, go to the Texas Cave Conservancy web site and look under TCC News.
http://texascaves.org/

While there, check our new SEARCH  link.

This is one reason that we have had over 375,000 visits since the new
web site went on line in April 2010. We are also working on obtaining
a clear copy of  “The Caves of Cedar Park” to add to our website.
Until then, check it out at YouTube “The Caves of Cedar Park. The TCC
has a large number of NSS News and the Texas Caver available for free.
If you are interested, contact us and we will bring them to the Texas
Caver’s Reunion.

tcc-ca...@austin.rr.com

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