[Texascavers] Texas prizes at convention
The UT Grotto T-shirt, with drawing by Don Arburn printed by Galen Falgout, won the blue ribbon in the T-shirt contest at the NSS convention. The cover for AMCS Activities Newsletter 34, 2011, won the blue ribbon for photographic newsletter covers; photographs were by Daniel Riordan and Franco Attolini, with layout by Bill Mixon. I suppose photos from the traditional NSS convention weather event are all over Facebook. On the way south from the convention, I passed fleets of utility company bucket trucks (or whatever they're called) headed north.--Bill Mixon I'm walking down the street with Leonardo da Vinci. He says, The things your science has created are indeed wonderful. You must explain to me how everything works. That's when I wake up. You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[SWR] Address change
My home cable company was bought by another company, which is canceling my gv...@warpdriveonline.com e-mail address. Please delete that address from your address books and use my NCKRI address below. I'm sorry for the inconvenience. George *** George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org http://www.nckri.org www.nckri.org ___ SWR mailing list s...@just119.justhost.com http://just119.justhost.com/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience
I just want to add to George's statement that John Woods from California won the Arts and Letters Award this year for his work in photography and vertical training. Like many others, no one could hear the presentation. John most certainly deserved his moment, just as all the other recipients did. Sad for everyone who didn't get their acknowledgment. By the time most of them did, half the NSS was outside trying to hold onto their belongings and rescue other peoples' possessions. Once again, a typical NSS Convention with all the usual suspects…. Peter On Jul 1, 2012, at 11:08 PM, George Veni wrote: I've just flown back to El Paso from DC and am driving home to Carlsbad. I was luckier than most, having camped in my rental car which survived undamaged, dry, and with a full tank of gas that let me enjoy Saturday's hydrology field trip and reach DC without any problem. There I stayed with my old friend Larry Cohen whose neighborhood was an island of electrical power. While we're incredibly lucky no caver was hurt in the storm (to the best of my knowledge), the timing was terrible for the many people who have given so much to caving and missed their moment of recognition. Dwight accidentally proves my point in mentioning Art Palmer's award. Art didn't get an award. He was yelling into the dark banquet hall, describing the accomplishments of the NSS' newest Honorary Member Dr. Pavel Bosak of the Czech Republic. Look in the NSS News in a couple of months to see all of the award recipients' names, and make sure to give them the pat on the back they missed but greatly deserve. George George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.org Sent by mobile phone. Original message Subject: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience From: dirt...@comcast.net To: Cave NM s...@caver.net,Cave Texas Texascavers@texascavers.com,TAG Net tag-...@hiddenworld.net CC: Sunday Evening We are still in the Great Eastern Power Outage. For those NOT at the convention in Lewisburg, The power from Ohio through West Virginia, Virginia, DC, Rhode Island and parts of New Jersey and North Carolina, and, in Lewisburg, went out just as the awards ceremonies at the NSS Banquet started. The weather was hot but otherwise wonderful all week, but the NSS convention weather fortune continued on Friday night! The power went out and killed the projectors and sound after most had finished eating, and speakers bravely shoutedawards the names of the new Fellows. Then, when Art Palmer rose to accept his well-deserved award, the Great Gust arrived, clearing the campground (literally) and blowing some tents over 1/4 mile - we later saw one flattened tent pinned against the fence around the Fair Grounds on the East side of the one-way road to the south (just south of the limbs of a huge fallen tree which blocked the highway). After the wind threatened the integrity of the doors to the banquet hall, the ceremonies deteriorated further. All roads from the normal exit from our part of the Fair Grounds were blocked by numerous fallen trees. By some devious route-finding (and an unexpectedly unlocked gate), we found our way across the Fair Grounds and out to the one-way road on the other side, heading north. A bit more devious route finding across much lesser streets got us successfully to our hotel for a powerless night. Hotel operators wringing their hands were amazed by our cheery room, illuminated by several 200-lumen headlamps (operating on low and partial power). (Where did you get that??!!, they asked.) (We are cavers, the reply.) The next day was also beautiful (Saturday) but the extent of the outage in West Virginia became apparent - it was NOT just Lewisburg. Refrigeration was out everywhere, as was all power for any services, including pumping gas. It had been our plan to re-visit haunts from 56 years ago around Cass, Senica Rocks, Germany Valley, and Franklin. We had a full tank so headed north. All services were out. We found one or two rural gas stations where the owner had a generator, and the lines were 50 plus cars from each direction and rapidly selling out of whatever gas they had in their tanks. The batteries in the cell towers ran out and so did that service. Without power, of course there was no internet. We found lunch in Elkins by going to the hospital cafeteria. (Bright idea, Mary!) Our thought was that we would not have any problems once we got east into Virginia. Bad thought. Most of Harrisonburg and Staunton were either without power or running on half-power(120 V, not 240v). What few hotels that had power were swamped with
Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience
All: The loss of power at the awards presentation was unfortunate. No microphone meant no one could hear the presentations. As for light, cavers always have lights. A write up will appear in the convention issue of the NSS NEWS with all the winners. The best we can do. Fortunately, no one was seriously hurt by the downed trees. We were fortunate that cavers were at the banquet. I saw cars and tents under the branches. One car has a 2+ft diameter tree trunk on top of it, and tents flattened . Bill Tozer In a message dated 7/2/2012 4:33:57 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, pjca...@gwi.net writes: I just want to add to George's statement that John Woods from California won the Arts and Letters Award this year for his work in photography and vertical training. Like many others, no one could hear the presentation. John most certainly deserved his moment, just as all the other recipients did. Sad for everyone who didn't get their acknowledgment. By the time most of them did, half the NSS was outside trying to hold onto their belongings and rescue other peoples' possessions. Once again, a typical NSS Convention with all the usual suspects…. Peter ___ SWR mailing list s...@just119.justhost.com http://just119.justhost.com/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
RE: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience
DD and all, Sounds like all the more reason to have the next one in Oregon. This year it's in the hi 70s to mid 80s. We had rain over the weekend and it's in the 50s at nite. Not every year, mind you, but this year. Of course the first of July, it goes to 90 and higher until the end of fire season (some time in Aug or Sep). Isn't the NSS slogan: Be prepared, but have fun! ? Sounds like an interesting time was had by all. Louise Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 11:34:10 + From: dirt...@comcast.net To: lmcn...@austin.rr.com CC: s...@caver.net; Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience Yes, Logan, it was quite chaotic. I don't think any cavers were hurt but there must have been a fair amount of camping equipment damaged. We ended up being both resourceful and a little lucky, and enjoyed two excellent days touring the cave country of Virginia and West Virginia, showing Mary some of the places of one of my miss-spent youths. One of the bigger problems driving around in the powerless areas was that few had credit card capabilities, so if you did not have real cash you were out of luck. I saw that one gas station with a generator was limiting gas to $25 per customer, but it was cash only. I seemed that quite a number did not have the $25 that they could spare. DirtDoc From: Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com To: dirt...@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2012 9:15:09 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience Thanks for the update, Dwight. We've been getting spotty reports and photos through Facebook and from cavers who left early and missed the storm. Just talked to Geoff Hoese. Fortunately, he and Aimee Beveridge left on Thurs in his private plane.
[Texascavers] Fwd: Latest WNS decontamination protocols
-- Forwarded message -- From: Sarah Richards srichs...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 3:06 PM Subject: Fwd: Latest WNS decontamination protocols To: varl...@listserv.vt.edu All, Follow this link for the latest version of the USFWS WNS decontamination protocols (as of 6/25/2012): http://whitenosesyndrome.org/sites/default/files/resource/national_wns_revise_final_6.25.12.pdf Note that hot water is the easiest and safest method available! I have taken to cleaning the heavy stuff off my gear and then putting everything in my washing machine (set on hot) to soak. I just fill up my washer with hot water, put all my gear in there, close the lid, and leave it for 20 minutes. Then I pull out my helmet, footware, knee pads, etc. before letting the wash cycle continue. Seems to work well and doesn't kill my hands with exposure to harsh chemicals. Check the temperature on your hot water heater and the resultant temperature of your hot wash cycle to ensure that it maintains the 122-degree water temperature for the full 20 minutes. Sarah (Permission granted to repost as necessary.) -- May you be well. May you be happy and healthy. May you be free from suffering and pain. May you be filled with loving kindness. Namaste. -- May you be well. May you be happy and healthy. May you be free from suffering and pain. May you be filled with loving kindness. Namaste.
RE: [Texascavers] Fwd: Latest WNS decontamination protocols
I don't think that's going to work well in my front loading washing machine. Cheers, Stefan From: Mallory Mayeux [mailto:mmay...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 3:09 PM To: GHG; Texascavers@Texascavers.Com Subject: [Texascavers] Fwd: Latest WNS decontamination protocols -- Forwarded message -- From: Sarah Richards srichs...@gmail.commailto:srichs...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 3:06 PM Subject: Fwd: Latest WNS decontamination protocols To: varl...@listserv.vt.edumailto:varl...@listserv.vt.edu All, Follow this link for the latest version of the USFWS WNS decontamination protocols (as of 6/25/2012): http://whitenosesyndrome.org/sites/default/files/resource/national_wns_revise_final_6.25.12.pdf Note that hot water is the easiest and safest method available! I have taken to cleaning the heavy stuff off my gear and then putting everything in my washing machine (set on hot) to soak. I just fill up my washer with hot water, put all my gear in there, close the lid, and leave it for 20 minutes. Then I pull out my helmet, footware, knee pads, etc. before letting the wash cycle continue. Seems to work well and doesn't kill my hands with exposure to harsh chemicals. Check the temperature on your hot water heater and the resultant temperature of your hot wash cycle to ensure that it maintains the 122-degree water temperature for the full 20 minutes. Sarah (Permission granted to repost as necessary.) -- May you be well. May you be happy and healthy. May you be free from suffering and pain. May you be filled with loving kindness. Namaste. -- May you be well. May you be happy and healthy. May you be free from suffering and pain. May you be filled with loving kindness. Namaste. -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you.
texascavers Digest 2 Jul 2012 20:30:36 -0000 Issue 1584
texascavers Digest 2 Jul 2012 20:30:36 - Issue 1584 Topics (messages 20288 through 20300): Re: Maryland and convention 20288 by: Geary Schindel Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience 20289 by: dirtdoc.comcast.net 20290 by: George Veni 20292 by: dirtdoc.comcast.net 20297 by: Louise Power Celebration of Life 20291 by: Jenni Arburn 20293 by: Linda Palit 20294 by: Linda Palit Texas prizes at convention 20295 by: Mixon Bill Address change 20296 by: George Veni Re: Aftermath of the NSS Convention 20298 by: Preston Forsythe Re: Latest WNS decontamination protocols 20299 by: Mallory Mayeux 20300 by: Stefan Creaser Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- After leaving WV, Sue, Graham, and I drove to the D.C. Area to visit the folks. There was no power in Lewisburg, White Sulpher Springs, Covington and therefore no gas. There were two stations with power in Lexington with moderate lines. We got some gas and drinks and made it into Maryland. There was power in some places in the Shanandoah valley and nerthern Va. My folks are without power but the houses behind us have power. We have run a cord over to there house to keep the fridge going. Very few gas stations in the area are open and some have run out of gas. We did have a great meal using the propane grill Sent from my Samsung Captivate(tm) on ATT Floyd Hebert heber...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Cavers, I'm living in Abilene, TX for the next 6 months to a year, and I interested to know if there are any caves in the surrounding area. I know there once was a very strong Abilene Grotto, but that is has long since been abandoned. If no one knows about any caves, contact information of some old Abilene Grotto members would be appreciated. Thanks, Floyd ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Sunday Evening We are still in the Great Eastern Power Outage. For those NOT at the convention in Lewisburg, The power from Ohio through West Virginia, Virginia, DC, Rhode Island and parts of New Jersey and North Carolina, and, in Lewisburg, went out just as the awards ceremonies at the NSS Banquet started. The weather was hot but otherwise wonderful all week, but the NSS convention weather fortune continued on Friday night! The power went out and killed the projectors and sound after most had finished eating, and speakers bravely shoutedawards the names of the new Fellows. Then, when Art Palmer rose to accept his well-deserved award, the Great Gust arrived, clearing the campground (literally) and blowing some tents over 1/4 mile - we later saw one flattened tent pinned against the fence around the Fair Grounds on the East side of the one-way road to the south (just south of the limbs of a huge fallen tree which blocked the highway). After the wind threatened the integrity of the doors to the banquet hall, the ceremonies deteriorated further. All roads from the normal exit from our part of the Fair Grounds were blocked by numerous fallen trees. By some devious route-finding (and an unexpectedly unlocked gate), we found our way across the Fair Grounds and out to the one-way road on the other side, heading north. A bit more devious route finding across much lesser streets got us successfully to our hotel for a powerless night. Hotel operators wringing their hands were amazed by our cheery room, illuminated by several 200-lumen headlamps (operating on low and partial power). (Where did you get that??!!, they asked.) (We are cavers, the reply.) The next day was also beautiful (Saturday) but the extent of the outage in West Virginia became apparent - it was NOT just Lewisburg. Refrigeration was out everywhere, as was all power for any services, including pumping gas. It had been our plan to re-visit haunts from 56 years ago around Cass, Senica Rocks, Germany Valley, and Franklin. We had a full tank so headed north. All services were out. We found one or two rural gas stations where the owner had a generator, and the lines were 50 plus cars from each direction and rapidly selling out of whatever gas they had in their tanks. The batteries in the cell towers ran out and so did that service. Without power, of course there was no internet. We found lunch in Elkins by going to the hospital cafeteria. (Bright idea, Mary!) Our thought was that we would not have any problems once we got east into Virginia. Bad thought. Most of Harrisonburg and Staunton were either without power or running on half-power(120 V, not
[SWR] June 25 revised Decon procedures
I don't think I sent this out yet, but USFWS issued a revised decontamination guidance last week, with language clarifying recommended decontamination procedures based on manufacturers' suggested product usage. http://whitenosesyndrome.org/resource/revised-decontamination-guidance-june-25-2012 Jen. ___ SWR mailing list s...@just119.justhost.com http://just119.justhost.com/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention
Future NSS Convention Schedule. 2013-Shippensburg, Penn., near Carlisle 2014-Huntsville, AL 2015-Rolla, Missouri 2016-Ely, Nevada. Believe that is the plan voted on by the board. The board had a discussion about having three conventions in the east, but decided that east and west are relative. By the way at the next UTG Grotto meeting ask Pete and Gill to describe the moment the squall line hit the Lewisburg campground, including sound effects. Preston in Outer Browder - - Original Message - From: Louise Power To: Dwight Deal ; Logan McNatt Cc: s...@caver.net ; Texas Cavers Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 1:27 PM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience DD and all, Sounds like all the more reason to have the next one in Oregon. This year it's in the hi 70s to mid 80s. We had rain over the weekend and it's in the 50s at nite. Not every year, mind you, but this year. Of course the first of July, it goes to 90 and higher until the end of fire season (some time in Aug or Sep). Isn't the NSS slogan: Be prepared, but have fun! ? Sounds like an interesting time was had by all. Louise --
Re: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention
The Ely bid was presented but cannot be voted on until the next BOG meeting. Their presentation was very impressive. Carol From: Preston Forsythe pns_...@bellsouth.net To: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com; Dwight Deal dirt...@comcast.net; Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com Cc: s...@caver.net; Texas Cavers texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Monday, July 2, 2012 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention Future NSS Convention Schedule. 2013-Shippensburg, Penn., near Carlisle 2014-Huntsville, AL 2015-Rolla, Missouri 2016-Ely, Nevada. Believe that is the plan voted on by the board. The board had a discussion about having three conventions in the east, but decided that east and west are relative. By the way at the next UTG Grotto meeting ask Pete and Gill to describe the moment the squall line hit the Lewisburg campground, including sound effects. Preston in Outer Browder - - Original Message - From: Louise Power To: Dwight Deal ; Logan McNatt Cc: s...@caver.net ; Texas Cavers Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 1:27 PM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience DD and all, Sounds like all the more reason to have the next one in Oregon. This year it's in the hi 70s to mid 80s. We had rain over the weekend and it's in the 50s at nite. Not every year, mind you, but this year. Of course the first of July, it goes to 90 and higher until the end of fire season (some time in Aug or Sep). Isn't the NSS slogan: Be prepared, but have fun! ? Sounds like an interesting time was had by all. Louise
RE: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention
Hi Carol, Here's what I sent to Preston: Whoop de doo! Ely is close (or at least closer than all the others). I worked there for almost 10 years. Love the area. Good excuse to go back! Actually, I have to disagree with the board. East and west are only relative if you have money or don't have to travel 2000 miles. Used to be the convention would be on one side of the country one year; mid-country the next year; and the other side of the country the next year. I thought that was a good plan. You could generally make it to one or two in a 3-year period. Now, with the price of gas... Thanks for the info. Louise Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 13:31:41 -0700 From: cti...@ymail.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention To: pns_...@bellsouth.net; power_lou...@hotmail.com; dirt...@comcast.net; lmcn...@austin.rr.com CC: s...@caver.net; texascavers@texascavers.com The Ely bid was presented but cannot be voted on until the next BOG meeting. Their presentation was very impressive. Carol From: Preston Forsythe pns_...@bellsouth.net To: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com; Dwight Deal dirt...@comcast.net; Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com Cc: s...@caver.net; Texas Cavers texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Monday, July 2, 2012 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention Future NSS Convention Schedule. 2013-Shippensburg, Penn., near Carlisle 2014-Huntsville, AL 2015-Rolla, Missouri 2016-Ely, Nevada. Believe that is the plan voted on by the board. The board had a discussion about having three conventions in the east, but decided that east and west are relative. By the way at the next UTG Grotto meeting ask Pete and Gill to describe the moment the squall line hit the Lewisburg campground, including sound effects. Preston in Outer Browder - - Original Message - From: Louise Power To: Dwight Deal ; Logan McNatt Cc: s...@caver.net ; Texas Cavers Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 1:27 PM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience DD and all, Sounds like all the more reason to have the next one in Oregon. This year it's in the hi 70s to mid 80s. We had rain over the weekend and it's in the 50s at nite. Not every year, mind you, but this year. Of course the first of July, it goes to 90 and higher until the end of fire season (some time in Aug or Sep). Isn't the NSS slogan: Be prepared, but have fun! ? Sounds like an interesting time was had by all. Louise
Re: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention
It is still my goal to rotate the sites, but the BOG has the final say (as you saw this year). The biggest problem with the rotation is finding hosts. I still hope we can have a convention in Flagstaff one day. It was a good site, I just need people the region will accept to be the host group. Seeing different parts of the country, I have not been to before, is one of the pluses to going to convention. Carol From: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com To: cti...@ymail.com; Preston Forsythe pns_...@bellsouth.net; Dwight Deal dirt...@comcast.net; Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com Cc: s...@caver.net s...@caver.net; Texas Cavers texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Monday, July 2, 2012 8:49 PM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention Hi Carol, Here's what I sent to Preston: Whoop de doo! Ely is close (or at least closer than all the others). I worked there for almost 10 years. Love the area. Good excuse to go back! Actually, I have to disagree with the board. East and west are only relative if you have money or don't have to travel 2000 miles. Used to be the convention would be on one side of the country one year; mid-country the next year; and the other side of the country the next year. I thought that was a good plan. You could generally make it to one or two in a 3-year period. Now, with the price of gas... Thanks for the info. Louise Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 13:31:41 -0700 From: cti...@ymail.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention To: pns_...@bellsouth.net; power_lou...@hotmail.com; dirt...@comcast.net; lmcn...@austin.rr.com CC: s...@caver.net; texascavers@texascavers.com The Ely bid was presented but cannot be voted on until the next BOG meeting. Their presentation was very impressive. Carol From: Preston Forsythe pns_...@bellsouth.net To: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com; Dwight Deal dirt...@comcast.net; Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com Cc: s...@caver.net; Texas Cavers texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Monday, July 2, 2012 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention Future NSS Convention Schedule. 2013-Shippensburg, Penn., near Carlisle 2014-Huntsville, AL 2015-Rolla, Missouri 2016-Ely, Nevada. Believe that is the plan voted on by the board. The board had a discussion about having three conventions in the east, but decided that east and west are relative. By the way at the next UTG Grotto meeting ask Pete and Gill to describe the moment the squall line hit the Lewisburg campground, including sound effects. Preston in Outer Browder - - Original Message - From: Louise Power To: Dwight Deal ; Logan McNatt Cc: s...@caver.net ; Texas Cavers Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 1:27 PM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience DD and all, Sounds like all the more reason to have the next one in Oregon. This year it's in the hi 70s to mid 80s. We had rain over the weekend and it's in the 50s at nite. Not every year, mind you, but this year. Of course the first of July, it goes to 90 and higher until the end of fire season (some time in Aug or Sep). Isn't the NSS slogan: Be prepared, but have fun! ? Sounds like an interesting time was had by all. Louise
Re: [Texascavers] Celebration of Life
On Sunday, July 1, 2012, Jenni Arburn wrote: I'm sorry that I forgot not everyone is into Face Book. Thanks, Joe Ranzau for the reminder. Dear Friends, Family and Misc Loved Ones: Allan Cobb and Linda Palit have very graciously provided us with space to celebrate Nick's life on Saturday, July 7 at 1122 Haltown, San Antonio, 78213. We welcome everyone who touched his life from 11AM to about 4PM. Please being your own chairs, a potluck dish, happy memories and photos to share. We'll have a keg of Shiner beer to toast with and brisket. Don and I look forward to seeing you there. Hugs! - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.comjavascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.comjavascript:;
Re: [Texascavers] Celebration of Life
If you want to stay the evening, we will find you a place to crash. If you are coming, please drop me a note so we have enough food, and please bring lawn chairs. Thanks, Linda On Sunday, July 1, 2012, Jenni Arburn wrote: I'm sorry that I forgot not everyone is into Face Book. Thanks, Joe Ranzau for the reminder. Dear Friends, Family and Misc Loved Ones: Allan Cobb and Linda Palit have very graciously provided us with space to celebrate Nick's life on Saturday, July 7 at 1122 Haltown, San Antonio, 78213. We welcome everyone who touched his life from 11AM to about 4PM. Please being your own chairs, a potluck dish, happy memories and photos to share. We'll have a keg of Shiner beer to toast with and brisket. Don and I look forward to seeing you there. Hugs! - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.comjavascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.comjavascript:;
[Texascavers] Texas prizes at convention
The UT Grotto T-shirt, with drawing by Don Arburn printed by Galen Falgout, won the blue ribbon in the T-shirt contest at the NSS convention. The cover for AMCS Activities Newsletter 34, 2011, won the blue ribbon for photographic newsletter covers; photographs were by Daniel Riordan and Franco Attolini, with layout by Bill Mixon. I suppose photos from the traditional NSS convention weather event are all over Facebook. On the way south from the convention, I passed fleets of utility company bucket trucks (or whatever they're called) headed north.--Bill Mixon I'm walking down the street with Leonardo da Vinci. He says, The things your science has created are indeed wonderful. You must explain to me how everything works. That's when I wake up. You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[SWR] Address change
My home cable company was bought by another company, which is canceling my gv...@warpdriveonline.com e-mail address. Please delete that address from your address books and use my NCKRI address below. I'm sorry for the inconvenience. George *** George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org http://www.nckri.org www.nckri.org ___ SWR mailing list s...@just119.justhost.com http://just119.justhost.com/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience
I just want to add to George's statement that John Woods from California won the Arts and Letters Award this year for his work in photography and vertical training. Like many others, no one could hear the presentation. John most certainly deserved his moment, just as all the other recipients did. Sad for everyone who didn't get their acknowledgment. By the time most of them did, half the NSS was outside trying to hold onto their belongings and rescue other peoples' possessions. Once again, a typical NSS Convention with all the usual suspects…. Peter On Jul 1, 2012, at 11:08 PM, George Veni wrote: I've just flown back to El Paso from DC and am driving home to Carlsbad. I was luckier than most, having camped in my rental car which survived undamaged, dry, and with a full tank of gas that let me enjoy Saturday's hydrology field trip and reach DC without any problem. There I stayed with my old friend Larry Cohen whose neighborhood was an island of electrical power. While we're incredibly lucky no caver was hurt in the storm (to the best of my knowledge), the timing was terrible for the many people who have given so much to caving and missed their moment of recognition. Dwight accidentally proves my point in mentioning Art Palmer's award. Art didn't get an award. He was yelling into the dark banquet hall, describing the accomplishments of the NSS' newest Honorary Member Dr. Pavel Bosak of the Czech Republic. Look in the NSS News in a couple of months to see all of the award recipients' names, and make sure to give them the pat on the back they missed but greatly deserve. George George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.org Sent by mobile phone. Original message Subject: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience From: dirt...@comcast.net To: Cave NM s...@caver.net,Cave Texas Texascavers@texascavers.com,TAG Net tag-...@hiddenworld.net CC: Sunday Evening We are still in the Great Eastern Power Outage. For those NOT at the convention in Lewisburg, The power from Ohio through West Virginia, Virginia, DC, Rhode Island and parts of New Jersey and North Carolina, and, in Lewisburg, went out just as the awards ceremonies at the NSS Banquet started. The weather was hot but otherwise wonderful all week, but the NSS convention weather fortune continued on Friday night! The power went out and killed the projectors and sound after most had finished eating, and speakers bravely shoutedawards the names of the new Fellows. Then, when Art Palmer rose to accept his well-deserved award, the Great Gust arrived, clearing the campground (literally) and blowing some tents over 1/4 mile - we later saw one flattened tent pinned against the fence around the Fair Grounds on the East side of the one-way road to the south (just south of the limbs of a huge fallen tree which blocked the highway). After the wind threatened the integrity of the doors to the banquet hall, the ceremonies deteriorated further. All roads from the normal exit from our part of the Fair Grounds were blocked by numerous fallen trees. By some devious route-finding (and an unexpectedly unlocked gate), we found our way across the Fair Grounds and out to the one-way road on the other side, heading north. A bit more devious route finding across much lesser streets got us successfully to our hotel for a powerless night. Hotel operators wringing their hands were amazed by our cheery room, illuminated by several 200-lumen headlamps (operating on low and partial power). (Where did you get that??!!, they asked.) (We are cavers, the reply.) The next day was also beautiful (Saturday) but the extent of the outage in West Virginia became apparent - it was NOT just Lewisburg. Refrigeration was out everywhere, as was all power for any services, including pumping gas. It had been our plan to re-visit haunts from 56 years ago around Cass, Senica Rocks, Germany Valley, and Franklin. We had a full tank so headed north. All services were out. We found one or two rural gas stations where the owner had a generator, and the lines were 50 plus cars from each direction and rapidly selling out of whatever gas they had in their tanks. The batteries in the cell towers ran out and so did that service. Without power, of course there was no internet. We found lunch in Elkins by going to the hospital cafeteria. (Bright idea, Mary!) Our thought was that we would not have any problems once we got east into Virginia. Bad thought. Most of Harrisonburg and Staunton were either without power or running on half-power(120 V, not 240v). What few hotels that had power were swamped with
Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience
Yes, Logan, it was quite chaotic. I don't think any cavers were hurt but there must have been a fair amount of camping equipment damaged. We ended up being both resourceful and a little lucky, and enjoyed two excellent days touring the cave country of Virginia and West Virginia, showing Mary some of the places of one of my miss-spent youths. One of the bigger problems driving around in the powerless areas was that few had credit card capabilities, so if you did not have real cash you were out of luck. I saw that one gas station with a generator was limiting gas to $25 per customer, but it was cash only. I seemed that quite a number did not have the $25 that they could spare. DirtDoc - Original Message - From: Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com To: dirt...@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2012 9:15:09 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience Thanks for the update, Dwight. We've been getting spotty reports and photos through Facebook and from cavers who left early and missed the storm. Just talked to Geoff Hoese. Fortunately, he and Aimee Beveridge left on Thurs in his private plane . ___ SWR mailing list s...@just119.justhost.com http://just119.justhost.com/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience
All: The loss of power at the awards presentation was unfortunate. No microphone meant no one could hear the presentations. As for light, cavers always have lights. A write up will appear in the convention issue of the NSS NEWS with all the winners. The best we can do. Fortunately, no one was seriously hurt by the downed trees. We were fortunate that cavers were at the banquet. I saw cars and tents under the branches. One car has a 2+ft diameter tree trunk on top of it, and tents flattened . Bill Tozer In a message dated 7/2/2012 4:33:57 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, pjca...@gwi.net writes: I just want to add to George's statement that John Woods from California won the Arts and Letters Award this year for his work in photography and vertical training. Like many others, no one could hear the presentation. John most certainly deserved his moment, just as all the other recipients did. Sad for everyone who didn't get their acknowledgment. By the time most of them did, half the NSS was outside trying to hold onto their belongings and rescue other peoples' possessions. Once again, a typical NSS Convention with all the usual suspects…. Peter ___ SWR mailing list s...@just119.justhost.com http://just119.justhost.com/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
RE: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience
DD and all, Sounds like all the more reason to have the next one in Oregon. This year it's in the hi 70s to mid 80s. We had rain over the weekend and it's in the 50s at nite. Not every year, mind you, but this year. Of course the first of July, it goes to 90 and higher until the end of fire season (some time in Aug or Sep). Isn't the NSS slogan: Be prepared, but have fun! ? Sounds like an interesting time was had by all. Louise List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 11:34:10 + From: dirt...@comcast.net To: lmcn...@austin.rr.com CC: s...@caver.net; Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience Yes, Logan, it was quite chaotic. I don't think any cavers were hurt but there must have been a fair amount of camping equipment damaged. We ended up being both resourceful and a little lucky, and enjoyed two excellent days touring the cave country of Virginia and West Virginia, showing Mary some of the places of one of my miss-spent youths. One of the bigger problems driving around in the powerless areas was that few had credit card capabilities, so if you did not have real cash you were out of luck. I saw that one gas station with a generator was limiting gas to $25 per customer, but it was cash only. I seemed that quite a number did not have the $25 that they could spare. DirtDoc From: Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com To: dirt...@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2012 9:15:09 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience Thanks for the update, Dwight. We've been getting spotty reports and photos through Facebook and from cavers who left early and missed the storm. Just talked to Geoff Hoese. Fortunately, he and Aimee Beveridge left on Thurs in his private plane.
[Texascavers] Fwd: Latest WNS decontamination protocols
-- Forwarded message -- From: Sarah Richards srichs...@gmail.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 3:06 PM Subject: Fwd: Latest WNS decontamination protocols To: varl...@listserv.vt.edu All, Follow this link for the latest version of the USFWS WNS decontamination protocols (as of 6/25/2012): http://whitenosesyndrome.org/sites/default/files/resource/national_wns_revise_final_6.25.12.pdf Note that hot water is the easiest and safest method available! I have taken to cleaning the heavy stuff off my gear and then putting everything in my washing machine (set on hot) to soak. I just fill up my washer with hot water, put all my gear in there, close the lid, and leave it for 20 minutes. Then I pull out my helmet, footware, knee pads, etc. before letting the wash cycle continue. Seems to work well and doesn't kill my hands with exposure to harsh chemicals. Check the temperature on your hot water heater and the resultant temperature of your hot wash cycle to ensure that it maintains the 122-degree water temperature for the full 20 minutes. Sarah (Permission granted to repost as necessary.) -- May you be well. May you be happy and healthy. May you be free from suffering and pain. May you be filled with loving kindness. Namaste. -- May you be well. May you be happy and healthy. May you be free from suffering and pain. May you be filled with loving kindness. Namaste.
RE: [Texascavers] Fwd: Latest WNS decontamination protocols
I don't think that's going to work well in my front loading washing machine. Cheers, Stefan From: Mallory Mayeux [mailto:mmay...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 3:09 PM To: GHG; Texascavers@Texascavers.Com Subject: [Texascavers] Fwd: Latest WNS decontamination protocols -- Forwarded message -- From: Sarah Richards srichs...@gmail.commailto:srichs...@gmail.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 3:06 PM Subject: Fwd: Latest WNS decontamination protocols To: varl...@listserv.vt.edumailto:varl...@listserv.vt.edu All, Follow this link for the latest version of the USFWS WNS decontamination protocols (as of 6/25/2012): http://whitenosesyndrome.org/sites/default/files/resource/national_wns_revise_final_6.25.12.pdf Note that hot water is the easiest and safest method available! I have taken to cleaning the heavy stuff off my gear and then putting everything in my washing machine (set on hot) to soak. I just fill up my washer with hot water, put all my gear in there, close the lid, and leave it for 20 minutes. Then I pull out my helmet, footware, knee pads, etc. before letting the wash cycle continue. Seems to work well and doesn't kill my hands with exposure to harsh chemicals. Check the temperature on your hot water heater and the resultant temperature of your hot wash cycle to ensure that it maintains the 122-degree water temperature for the full 20 minutes. Sarah (Permission granted to repost as necessary.) -- May you be well. May you be happy and healthy. May you be free from suffering and pain. May you be filled with loving kindness. Namaste. -- May you be well. May you be happy and healthy. May you be free from suffering and pain. May you be filled with loving kindness. Namaste. -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you.
texascavers Digest 2 Jul 2012 20:30:36 -0000 Issue 1584
texascavers Digest 2 Jul 2012 20:30:36 - Issue 1584 Topics (messages 20288 through 20300): Re: Maryland and convention 20288 by: Geary Schindel Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience 20289 by: dirtdoc.comcast.net 20290 by: George Veni 20292 by: dirtdoc.comcast.net 20297 by: Louise Power Celebration of Life 20291 by: Jenni Arburn 20293 by: Linda Palit 20294 by: Linda Palit Texas prizes at convention 20295 by: Mixon Bill Address change 20296 by: George Veni Re: Aftermath of the NSS Convention 20298 by: Preston Forsythe Re: Latest WNS decontamination protocols 20299 by: Mallory Mayeux 20300 by: Stefan Creaser Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- After leaving WV, Sue, Graham, and I drove to the D.C. Area to visit the folks. There was no power in Lewisburg, White Sulpher Springs, Covington and therefore no gas. There were two stations with power in Lexington with moderate lines. We got some gas and drinks and made it into Maryland. There was power in some places in the Shanandoah valley and nerthern Va. My folks are without power but the houses behind us have power. We have run a cord over to there house to keep the fridge going. Very few gas stations in the area are open and some have run out of gas. We did have a great meal using the propane grill Sent from my Samsung Captivate(tm) on ATT Floyd Hebert heber...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Cavers, I'm living in Abilene, TX for the next 6 months to a year, and I interested to know if there are any caves in the surrounding area. I know there once was a very strong Abilene Grotto, but that is has long since been abandoned. If no one knows about any caves, contact information of some old Abilene Grotto members would be appreciated. Thanks, Floyd ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Sunday Evening We are still in the Great Eastern Power Outage. For those NOT at the convention in Lewisburg, The power from Ohio through West Virginia, Virginia, DC, Rhode Island and parts of New Jersey and North Carolina, and, in Lewisburg, went out just as the awards ceremonies at the NSS Banquet started. The weather was hot but otherwise wonderful all week, but the NSS convention weather fortune continued on Friday night! The power went out and killed the projectors and sound after most had finished eating, and speakers bravely shoutedawards the names of the new Fellows. Then, when Art Palmer rose to accept his well-deserved award, the Great Gust arrived, clearing the campground (literally) and blowing some tents over 1/4 mile - we later saw one flattened tent pinned against the fence around the Fair Grounds on the East side of the one-way road to the south (just south of the limbs of a huge fallen tree which blocked the highway). After the wind threatened the integrity of the doors to the banquet hall, the ceremonies deteriorated further. All roads from the normal exit from our part of the Fair Grounds were blocked by numerous fallen trees. By some devious route-finding (and an unexpectedly unlocked gate), we found our way across the Fair Grounds and out to the one-way road on the other side, heading north. A bit more devious route finding across much lesser streets got us successfully to our hotel for a powerless night. Hotel operators wringing their hands were amazed by our cheery room, illuminated by several 200-lumen headlamps (operating on low and partial power). (Where did you get that??!!, they asked.) (We are cavers, the reply.) The next day was also beautiful (Saturday) but the extent of the outage in West Virginia became apparent - it was NOT just Lewisburg. Refrigeration was out everywhere, as was all power for any services, including pumping gas. It had been our plan to re-visit haunts from 56 years ago around Cass, Senica Rocks, Germany Valley, and Franklin. We had a full tank so headed north. All services were out. We found one or two rural gas stations where the owner had a generator, and the lines were 50 plus cars from each direction and rapidly selling out of whatever gas they had in their tanks. The batteries in the cell towers ran out and so did that service. Without power, of course there was no internet. We found lunch in Elkins by going to the hospital cafeteria. (Bright idea, Mary!) Our thought was that we would not have any problems once we got east into Virginia. Bad thought. Most of Harrisonburg and Staunton were either without power or running on half-power(120 V, not
[SWR] June 25 revised Decon procedures
I don't think I sent this out yet, but USFWS issued a revised decontamination guidance last week, with language clarifying recommended decontamination procedures based on manufacturers' suggested product usage. http://whitenosesyndrome.org/resource/revised-decontamination-guidance-june-25-2012 Jen. ___ SWR mailing list s...@just119.justhost.com http://just119.justhost.com/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention
Future NSS Convention Schedule. 2013-Shippensburg, Penn., near Carlisle 2014-Huntsville, AL 2015-Rolla, Missouri 2016-Ely, Nevada. Believe that is the plan voted on by the board. The board had a discussion about having three conventions in the east, but decided that east and west are relative. By the way at the next UTG Grotto meeting ask Pete and Gill to describe the moment the squall line hit the Lewisburg campground, including sound effects. Preston in Outer Browder - - Original Message - From: Louise Power To: Dwight Deal ; Logan McNatt Cc: s...@caver.net ; Texas Cavers Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 1:27 PM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience DD and all, Sounds like all the more reason to have the next one in Oregon. This year it's in the hi 70s to mid 80s. We had rain over the weekend and it's in the 50s at nite. Not every year, mind you, but this year. Of course the first of July, it goes to 90 and higher until the end of fire season (some time in Aug or Sep). Isn't the NSS slogan: Be prepared, but have fun! ? Sounds like an interesting time was had by all. Louise --
Re: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention
The Ely bid was presented but cannot be voted on until the next BOG meeting. Their presentation was very impressive. Carol From: Preston Forsythe pns_...@bellsouth.net To: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com; Dwight Deal dirt...@comcast.net; Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com Cc: s...@caver.net; Texas Cavers texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Monday, July 2, 2012 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention Future NSS Convention Schedule. 2013-Shippensburg, Penn., near Carlisle 2014-Huntsville, AL 2015-Rolla, Missouri 2016-Ely, Nevada. Believe that is the plan voted on by the board. The board had a discussion about having three conventions in the east, but decided that east and west are relative. By the way at the next UTG Grotto meeting ask Pete and Gill to describe the moment the squall line hit the Lewisburg campground, including sound effects. Preston in Outer Browder - - Original Message - From: Louise Power To: Dwight Deal ; Logan McNatt Cc: s...@caver.net ; Texas Cavers Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 1:27 PM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience DD and all, Sounds like all the more reason to have the next one in Oregon. This year it's in the hi 70s to mid 80s. We had rain over the weekend and it's in the 50s at nite. Not every year, mind you, but this year. Of course the first of July, it goes to 90 and higher until the end of fire season (some time in Aug or Sep). Isn't the NSS slogan: Be prepared, but have fun! ? Sounds like an interesting time was had by all. Louise
RE: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention
Hi Carol, Here's what I sent to Preston: Whoop de doo! Ely is close (or at least closer than all the others). I worked there for almost 10 years. Love the area. Good excuse to go back! Actually, I have to disagree with the board. East and west are only relative if you have money or don't have to travel 2000 miles. Used to be the convention would be on one side of the country one year; mid-country the next year; and the other side of the country the next year. I thought that was a good plan. You could generally make it to one or two in a 3-year period. Now, with the price of gas... Thanks for the info. Louise List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 13:31:41 -0700 From: cti...@ymail.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention To: pns_...@bellsouth.net; power_lou...@hotmail.com; dirt...@comcast.net; lmcn...@austin.rr.com CC: s...@caver.net; texascavers@texascavers.com The Ely bid was presented but cannot be voted on until the next BOG meeting. Their presentation was very impressive. Carol From: Preston Forsythe pns_...@bellsouth.net To: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com; Dwight Deal dirt...@comcast.net; Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com Cc: s...@caver.net; Texas Cavers texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Monday, July 2, 2012 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention Future NSS Convention Schedule. 2013-Shippensburg, Penn., near Carlisle 2014-Huntsville, AL 2015-Rolla, Missouri 2016-Ely, Nevada. Believe that is the plan voted on by the board. The board had a discussion about having three conventions in the east, but decided that east and west are relative. By the way at the next UTG Grotto meeting ask Pete and Gill to describe the moment the squall line hit the Lewisburg campground, including sound effects. Preston in Outer Browder - - Original Message - From: Louise Power To: Dwight Deal ; Logan McNatt Cc: s...@caver.net ; Texas Cavers Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 1:27 PM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience DD and all, Sounds like all the more reason to have the next one in Oregon. This year it's in the hi 70s to mid 80s. We had rain over the weekend and it's in the 50s at nite. Not every year, mind you, but this year. Of course the first of July, it goes to 90 and higher until the end of fire season (some time in Aug or Sep). Isn't the NSS slogan: Be prepared, but have fun! ? Sounds like an interesting time was had by all. Louise
Re: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention
It is still my goal to rotate the sites, but the BOG has the final say (as you saw this year). The biggest problem with the rotation is finding hosts. I still hope we can have a convention in Flagstaff one day. It was a good site, I just need people the region will accept to be the host group. Seeing different parts of the country, I have not been to before, is one of the pluses to going to convention. Carol From: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com To: cti...@ymail.com; Preston Forsythe pns_...@bellsouth.net; Dwight Deal dirt...@comcast.net; Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com Cc: s...@caver.net s...@caver.net; Texas Cavers texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Monday, July 2, 2012 8:49 PM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention Hi Carol, Here's what I sent to Preston: Whoop de doo! Ely is close (or at least closer than all the others). I worked there for almost 10 years. Love the area. Good excuse to go back! Actually, I have to disagree with the board. East and west are only relative if you have money or don't have to travel 2000 miles. Used to be the convention would be on one side of the country one year; mid-country the next year; and the other side of the country the next year. I thought that was a good plan. You could generally make it to one or two in a 3-year period. Now, with the price of gas... Thanks for the info. Louise Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 13:31:41 -0700 From: cti...@ymail.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention To: pns_...@bellsouth.net; power_lou...@hotmail.com; dirt...@comcast.net; lmcn...@austin.rr.com CC: s...@caver.net; texascavers@texascavers.com The Ely bid was presented but cannot be voted on until the next BOG meeting. Their presentation was very impressive. Carol From: Preston Forsythe pns_...@bellsouth.net To: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com; Dwight Deal dirt...@comcast.net; Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com Cc: s...@caver.net; Texas Cavers texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Monday, July 2, 2012 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention Future NSS Convention Schedule. 2013-Shippensburg, Penn., near Carlisle 2014-Huntsville, AL 2015-Rolla, Missouri 2016-Ely, Nevada. Believe that is the plan voted on by the board. The board had a discussion about having three conventions in the east, but decided that east and west are relative. By the way at the next UTG Grotto meeting ask Pete and Gill to describe the moment the squall line hit the Lewisburg campground, including sound effects. Preston in Outer Browder - - Original Message - From: Louise Power To: Dwight Deal ; Logan McNatt Cc: s...@caver.net ; Texas Cavers Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 1:27 PM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience DD and all, Sounds like all the more reason to have the next one in Oregon. This year it's in the hi 70s to mid 80s. We had rain over the weekend and it's in the 50s at nite. Not every year, mind you, but this year. Of course the first of July, it goes to 90 and higher until the end of fire season (some time in Aug or Sep). Isn't the NSS slogan: Be prepared, but have fun! ? Sounds like an interesting time was had by all. Louise
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Re: [Texascavers] Celebration of Life
On Sunday, July 1, 2012, Jenni Arburn wrote: I'm sorry that I forgot not everyone is into Face Book. Thanks, Joe Ranzau for the reminder. Dear Friends, Family and Misc Loved Ones: Allan Cobb and Linda Palit have very graciously provided us with space to celebrate Nick's life on Saturday, July 7 at 1122 Haltown, San Antonio, 78213. We welcome everyone who touched his life from 11AM to about 4PM. Please being your own chairs, a potluck dish, happy memories and photos to share. We'll have a keg of Shiner beer to toast with and brisket. Don and I look forward to seeing you there. Hugs! - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.comjavascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.comjavascript:;
Re: [Texascavers] Celebration of Life
If you want to stay the evening, we will find you a place to crash. If you are coming, please drop me a note so we have enough food, and please bring lawn chairs. Thanks, Linda On Sunday, July 1, 2012, Jenni Arburn wrote: I'm sorry that I forgot not everyone is into Face Book. Thanks, Joe Ranzau for the reminder. Dear Friends, Family and Misc Loved Ones: Allan Cobb and Linda Palit have very graciously provided us with space to celebrate Nick's life on Saturday, July 7 at 1122 Haltown, San Antonio, 78213. We welcome everyone who touched his life from 11AM to about 4PM. Please being your own chairs, a potluck dish, happy memories and photos to share. We'll have a keg of Shiner beer to toast with and brisket. Don and I look forward to seeing you there. Hugs! - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.comjavascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.comjavascript:;
[Texascavers] Texas prizes at convention
The UT Grotto T-shirt, with drawing by Don Arburn printed by Galen Falgout, won the blue ribbon in the T-shirt contest at the NSS convention. The cover for AMCS Activities Newsletter 34, 2011, won the blue ribbon for photographic newsletter covers; photographs were by Daniel Riordan and Franco Attolini, with layout by Bill Mixon. I suppose photos from the traditional NSS convention weather event are all over Facebook. On the way south from the convention, I passed fleets of utility company bucket trucks (or whatever they're called) headed north.--Bill Mixon I'm walking down the street with Leonardo da Vinci. He says, The things your science has created are indeed wonderful. You must explain to me how everything works. That's when I wake up. You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[SWR] Address change
My home cable company was bought by another company, which is canceling my gv...@warpdriveonline.com e-mail address. Please delete that address from your address books and use my NCKRI address below. I'm sorry for the inconvenience. George *** George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org http://www.nckri.org www.nckri.org ___ SWR mailing list s...@just119.justhost.com http://just119.justhost.com/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience
I just want to add to George's statement that John Woods from California won the Arts and Letters Award this year for his work in photography and vertical training. Like many others, no one could hear the presentation. John most certainly deserved his moment, just as all the other recipients did. Sad for everyone who didn't get their acknowledgment. By the time most of them did, half the NSS was outside trying to hold onto their belongings and rescue other peoples' possessions. Once again, a typical NSS Convention with all the usual suspects…. Peter On Jul 1, 2012, at 11:08 PM, George Veni wrote: I've just flown back to El Paso from DC and am driving home to Carlsbad. I was luckier than most, having camped in my rental car which survived undamaged, dry, and with a full tank of gas that let me enjoy Saturday's hydrology field trip and reach DC without any problem. There I stayed with my old friend Larry Cohen whose neighborhood was an island of electrical power. While we're incredibly lucky no caver was hurt in the storm (to the best of my knowledge), the timing was terrible for the many people who have given so much to caving and missed their moment of recognition. Dwight accidentally proves my point in mentioning Art Palmer's award. Art didn't get an award. He was yelling into the dark banquet hall, describing the accomplishments of the NSS' newest Honorary Member Dr. Pavel Bosak of the Czech Republic. Look in the NSS News in a couple of months to see all of the award recipients' names, and make sure to give them the pat on the back they missed but greatly deserve. George George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.org Sent by mobile phone. Original message Subject: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience From: dirt...@comcast.net To: Cave NM s...@caver.net,Cave Texas Texascavers@texascavers.com,TAG Net tag-...@hiddenworld.net CC: Sunday Evening We are still in the Great Eastern Power Outage. For those NOT at the convention in Lewisburg, The power from Ohio through West Virginia, Virginia, DC, Rhode Island and parts of New Jersey and North Carolina, and, in Lewisburg, went out just as the awards ceremonies at the NSS Banquet started. The weather was hot but otherwise wonderful all week, but the NSS convention weather fortune continued on Friday night! The power went out and killed the projectors and sound after most had finished eating, and speakers bravely shoutedawards the names of the new Fellows. Then, when Art Palmer rose to accept his well-deserved award, the Great Gust arrived, clearing the campground (literally) and blowing some tents over 1/4 mile - we later saw one flattened tent pinned against the fence around the Fair Grounds on the East side of the one-way road to the south (just south of the limbs of a huge fallen tree which blocked the highway). After the wind threatened the integrity of the doors to the banquet hall, the ceremonies deteriorated further. All roads from the normal exit from our part of the Fair Grounds were blocked by numerous fallen trees. By some devious route-finding (and an unexpectedly unlocked gate), we found our way across the Fair Grounds and out to the one-way road on the other side, heading north. A bit more devious route finding across much lesser streets got us successfully to our hotel for a powerless night. Hotel operators wringing their hands were amazed by our cheery room, illuminated by several 200-lumen headlamps (operating on low and partial power). (Where did you get that??!!, they asked.) (We are cavers, the reply.) The next day was also beautiful (Saturday) but the extent of the outage in West Virginia became apparent - it was NOT just Lewisburg. Refrigeration was out everywhere, as was all power for any services, including pumping gas. It had been our plan to re-visit haunts from 56 years ago around Cass, Senica Rocks, Germany Valley, and Franklin. We had a full tank so headed north. All services were out. We found one or two rural gas stations where the owner had a generator, and the lines were 50 plus cars from each direction and rapidly selling out of whatever gas they had in their tanks. The batteries in the cell towers ran out and so did that service. Without power, of course there was no internet. We found lunch in Elkins by going to the hospital cafeteria. (Bright idea, Mary!) Our thought was that we would not have any problems once we got east into Virginia. Bad thought. Most of Harrisonburg and Staunton were either without power or running on half-power(120 V, not 240v). What few hotels that had power were swamped with
Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience
Yes, Logan, it was quite chaotic. I don't think any cavers were hurt but there must have been a fair amount of camping equipment damaged. We ended up being both resourceful and a little lucky, and enjoyed two excellent days touring the cave country of Virginia and West Virginia, showing Mary some of the places of one of my miss-spent youths. One of the bigger problems driving around in the powerless areas was that few had credit card capabilities, so if you did not have real cash you were out of luck. I saw that one gas station with a generator was limiting gas to $25 per customer, but it was cash only. I seemed that quite a number did not have the $25 that they could spare. DirtDoc - Original Message - From: Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com To: dirt...@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2012 9:15:09 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience Thanks for the update, Dwight. We've been getting spotty reports and photos through Facebook and from cavers who left early and missed the storm. Just talked to Geoff Hoese. Fortunately, he and Aimee Beveridge left on Thurs in his private plane . ___ SWR mailing list s...@just119.justhost.com http://just119.justhost.com/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience
All: The loss of power at the awards presentation was unfortunate. No microphone meant no one could hear the presentations. As for light, cavers always have lights. A write up will appear in the convention issue of the NSS NEWS with all the winners. The best we can do. Fortunately, no one was seriously hurt by the downed trees. We were fortunate that cavers were at the banquet. I saw cars and tents under the branches. One car has a 2+ft diameter tree trunk on top of it, and tents flattened . Bill Tozer In a message dated 7/2/2012 4:33:57 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, pjca...@gwi.net writes: I just want to add to George's statement that John Woods from California won the Arts and Letters Award this year for his work in photography and vertical training. Like many others, no one could hear the presentation. John most certainly deserved his moment, just as all the other recipients did. Sad for everyone who didn't get their acknowledgment. By the time most of them did, half the NSS was outside trying to hold onto their belongings and rescue other peoples' possessions. Once again, a typical NSS Convention with all the usual suspects…. Peter ___ SWR mailing list s...@just119.justhost.com http://just119.justhost.com/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
RE: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience
DD and all, Sounds like all the more reason to have the next one in Oregon. This year it's in the hi 70s to mid 80s. We had rain over the weekend and it's in the 50s at nite. Not every year, mind you, but this year. Of course the first of July, it goes to 90 and higher until the end of fire season (some time in Aug or Sep). Isn't the NSS slogan: Be prepared, but have fun! ? Sounds like an interesting time was had by all. Louise List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 11:34:10 + From: dirt...@comcast.net To: lmcn...@austin.rr.com CC: s...@caver.net; Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience Yes, Logan, it was quite chaotic. I don't think any cavers were hurt but there must have been a fair amount of camping equipment damaged. We ended up being both resourceful and a little lucky, and enjoyed two excellent days touring the cave country of Virginia and West Virginia, showing Mary some of the places of one of my miss-spent youths. One of the bigger problems driving around in the powerless areas was that few had credit card capabilities, so if you did not have real cash you were out of luck. I saw that one gas station with a generator was limiting gas to $25 per customer, but it was cash only. I seemed that quite a number did not have the $25 that they could spare. DirtDoc From: Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com To: dirt...@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2012 9:15:09 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience Thanks for the update, Dwight. We've been getting spotty reports and photos through Facebook and from cavers who left early and missed the storm. Just talked to Geoff Hoese. Fortunately, he and Aimee Beveridge left on Thurs in his private plane.
[Texascavers] Fwd: Latest WNS decontamination protocols
-- Forwarded message -- From: Sarah Richards srichs...@gmail.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 3:06 PM Subject: Fwd: Latest WNS decontamination protocols To: varl...@listserv.vt.edu All, Follow this link for the latest version of the USFWS WNS decontamination protocols (as of 6/25/2012): http://whitenosesyndrome.org/sites/default/files/resource/national_wns_revise_final_6.25.12.pdf Note that hot water is the easiest and safest method available! I have taken to cleaning the heavy stuff off my gear and then putting everything in my washing machine (set on hot) to soak. I just fill up my washer with hot water, put all my gear in there, close the lid, and leave it for 20 minutes. Then I pull out my helmet, footware, knee pads, etc. before letting the wash cycle continue. Seems to work well and doesn't kill my hands with exposure to harsh chemicals. Check the temperature on your hot water heater and the resultant temperature of your hot wash cycle to ensure that it maintains the 122-degree water temperature for the full 20 minutes. Sarah (Permission granted to repost as necessary.) -- May you be well. May you be happy and healthy. May you be free from suffering and pain. May you be filled with loving kindness. Namaste. -- May you be well. May you be happy and healthy. May you be free from suffering and pain. May you be filled with loving kindness. Namaste.
RE: [Texascavers] Fwd: Latest WNS decontamination protocols
I don't think that's going to work well in my front loading washing machine. Cheers, Stefan From: Mallory Mayeux [mailto:mmay...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 3:09 PM To: GHG; Texascavers@Texascavers.Com Subject: [Texascavers] Fwd: Latest WNS decontamination protocols -- Forwarded message -- From: Sarah Richards srichs...@gmail.commailto:srichs...@gmail.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 3:06 PM Subject: Fwd: Latest WNS decontamination protocols To: varl...@listserv.vt.edumailto:varl...@listserv.vt.edu All, Follow this link for the latest version of the USFWS WNS decontamination protocols (as of 6/25/2012): http://whitenosesyndrome.org/sites/default/files/resource/national_wns_revise_final_6.25.12.pdf Note that hot water is the easiest and safest method available! I have taken to cleaning the heavy stuff off my gear and then putting everything in my washing machine (set on hot) to soak. I just fill up my washer with hot water, put all my gear in there, close the lid, and leave it for 20 minutes. Then I pull out my helmet, footware, knee pads, etc. before letting the wash cycle continue. Seems to work well and doesn't kill my hands with exposure to harsh chemicals. Check the temperature on your hot water heater and the resultant temperature of your hot wash cycle to ensure that it maintains the 122-degree water temperature for the full 20 minutes. Sarah (Permission granted to repost as necessary.) -- May you be well. May you be happy and healthy. May you be free from suffering and pain. May you be filled with loving kindness. Namaste. -- May you be well. May you be happy and healthy. May you be free from suffering and pain. May you be filled with loving kindness. Namaste. -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you.
texascavers Digest 2 Jul 2012 20:30:36 -0000 Issue 1584
texascavers Digest 2 Jul 2012 20:30:36 - Issue 1584 Topics (messages 20288 through 20300): Re: Maryland and convention 20288 by: Geary Schindel Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience 20289 by: dirtdoc.comcast.net 20290 by: George Veni 20292 by: dirtdoc.comcast.net 20297 by: Louise Power Celebration of Life 20291 by: Jenni Arburn 20293 by: Linda Palit 20294 by: Linda Palit Texas prizes at convention 20295 by: Mixon Bill Address change 20296 by: George Veni Re: Aftermath of the NSS Convention 20298 by: Preston Forsythe Re: Latest WNS decontamination protocols 20299 by: Mallory Mayeux 20300 by: Stefan Creaser Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- After leaving WV, Sue, Graham, and I drove to the D.C. Area to visit the folks. There was no power in Lewisburg, White Sulpher Springs, Covington and therefore no gas. There were two stations with power in Lexington with moderate lines. We got some gas and drinks and made it into Maryland. There was power in some places in the Shanandoah valley and nerthern Va. My folks are without power but the houses behind us have power. We have run a cord over to there house to keep the fridge going. Very few gas stations in the area are open and some have run out of gas. We did have a great meal using the propane grill Sent from my Samsung Captivate(tm) on ATT Floyd Hebert heber...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Cavers, I'm living in Abilene, TX for the next 6 months to a year, and I interested to know if there are any caves in the surrounding area. I know there once was a very strong Abilene Grotto, but that is has long since been abandoned. If no one knows about any caves, contact information of some old Abilene Grotto members would be appreciated. Thanks, Floyd ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Sunday Evening We are still in the Great Eastern Power Outage. For those NOT at the convention in Lewisburg, The power from Ohio through West Virginia, Virginia, DC, Rhode Island and parts of New Jersey and North Carolina, and, in Lewisburg, went out just as the awards ceremonies at the NSS Banquet started. The weather was hot but otherwise wonderful all week, but the NSS convention weather fortune continued on Friday night! The power went out and killed the projectors and sound after most had finished eating, and speakers bravely shoutedawards the names of the new Fellows. Then, when Art Palmer rose to accept his well-deserved award, the Great Gust arrived, clearing the campground (literally) and blowing some tents over 1/4 mile - we later saw one flattened tent pinned against the fence around the Fair Grounds on the East side of the one-way road to the south (just south of the limbs of a huge fallen tree which blocked the highway). After the wind threatened the integrity of the doors to the banquet hall, the ceremonies deteriorated further. All roads from the normal exit from our part of the Fair Grounds were blocked by numerous fallen trees. By some devious route-finding (and an unexpectedly unlocked gate), we found our way across the Fair Grounds and out to the one-way road on the other side, heading north. A bit more devious route finding across much lesser streets got us successfully to our hotel for a powerless night. Hotel operators wringing their hands were amazed by our cheery room, illuminated by several 200-lumen headlamps (operating on low and partial power). (Where did you get that??!!, they asked.) (We are cavers, the reply.) The next day was also beautiful (Saturday) but the extent of the outage in West Virginia became apparent - it was NOT just Lewisburg. Refrigeration was out everywhere, as was all power for any services, including pumping gas. It had been our plan to re-visit haunts from 56 years ago around Cass, Senica Rocks, Germany Valley, and Franklin. We had a full tank so headed north. All services were out. We found one or two rural gas stations where the owner had a generator, and the lines were 50 plus cars from each direction and rapidly selling out of whatever gas they had in their tanks. The batteries in the cell towers ran out and so did that service. Without power, of course there was no internet. We found lunch in Elkins by going to the hospital cafeteria. (Bright idea, Mary!) Our thought was that we would not have any problems once we got east into Virginia. Bad thought. Most of Harrisonburg and Staunton were either without power or running on half-power(120 V, not
[SWR] June 25 revised Decon procedures
I don't think I sent this out yet, but USFWS issued a revised decontamination guidance last week, with language clarifying recommended decontamination procedures based on manufacturers' suggested product usage. http://whitenosesyndrome.org/resource/revised-decontamination-guidance-june-25-2012 Jen. ___ SWR mailing list s...@just119.justhost.com http://just119.justhost.com/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention
Future NSS Convention Schedule. 2013-Shippensburg, Penn., near Carlisle 2014-Huntsville, AL 2015-Rolla, Missouri 2016-Ely, Nevada. Believe that is the plan voted on by the board. The board had a discussion about having three conventions in the east, but decided that east and west are relative. By the way at the next UTG Grotto meeting ask Pete and Gill to describe the moment the squall line hit the Lewisburg campground, including sound effects. Preston in Outer Browder - - Original Message - From: Louise Power To: Dwight Deal ; Logan McNatt Cc: s...@caver.net ; Texas Cavers Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 1:27 PM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience DD and all, Sounds like all the more reason to have the next one in Oregon. This year it's in the hi 70s to mid 80s. We had rain over the weekend and it's in the 50s at nite. Not every year, mind you, but this year. Of course the first of July, it goes to 90 and higher until the end of fire season (some time in Aug or Sep). Isn't the NSS slogan: Be prepared, but have fun! ? Sounds like an interesting time was had by all. Louise --
Re: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention
The Ely bid was presented but cannot be voted on until the next BOG meeting. Their presentation was very impressive. Carol From: Preston Forsythe pns_...@bellsouth.net To: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com; Dwight Deal dirt...@comcast.net; Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com Cc: s...@caver.net; Texas Cavers texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Monday, July 2, 2012 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention Future NSS Convention Schedule. 2013-Shippensburg, Penn., near Carlisle 2014-Huntsville, AL 2015-Rolla, Missouri 2016-Ely, Nevada. Believe that is the plan voted on by the board. The board had a discussion about having three conventions in the east, but decided that east and west are relative. By the way at the next UTG Grotto meeting ask Pete and Gill to describe the moment the squall line hit the Lewisburg campground, including sound effects. Preston in Outer Browder - - Original Message - From: Louise Power To: Dwight Deal ; Logan McNatt Cc: s...@caver.net ; Texas Cavers Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 1:27 PM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience DD and all, Sounds like all the more reason to have the next one in Oregon. This year it's in the hi 70s to mid 80s. We had rain over the weekend and it's in the 50s at nite. Not every year, mind you, but this year. Of course the first of July, it goes to 90 and higher until the end of fire season (some time in Aug or Sep). Isn't the NSS slogan: Be prepared, but have fun! ? Sounds like an interesting time was had by all. Louise
RE: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention
Hi Carol, Here's what I sent to Preston: Whoop de doo! Ely is close (or at least closer than all the others). I worked there for almost 10 years. Love the area. Good excuse to go back! Actually, I have to disagree with the board. East and west are only relative if you have money or don't have to travel 2000 miles. Used to be the convention would be on one side of the country one year; mid-country the next year; and the other side of the country the next year. I thought that was a good plan. You could generally make it to one or two in a 3-year period. Now, with the price of gas... Thanks for the info. Louise List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 13:31:41 -0700 From: cti...@ymail.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention To: pns_...@bellsouth.net; power_lou...@hotmail.com; dirt...@comcast.net; lmcn...@austin.rr.com CC: s...@caver.net; texascavers@texascavers.com The Ely bid was presented but cannot be voted on until the next BOG meeting. Their presentation was very impressive. Carol From: Preston Forsythe pns_...@bellsouth.net To: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com; Dwight Deal dirt...@comcast.net; Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com Cc: s...@caver.net; Texas Cavers texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Monday, July 2, 2012 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention Future NSS Convention Schedule. 2013-Shippensburg, Penn., near Carlisle 2014-Huntsville, AL 2015-Rolla, Missouri 2016-Ely, Nevada. Believe that is the plan voted on by the board. The board had a discussion about having three conventions in the east, but decided that east and west are relative. By the way at the next UTG Grotto meeting ask Pete and Gill to describe the moment the squall line hit the Lewisburg campground, including sound effects. Preston in Outer Browder - - Original Message - From: Louise Power To: Dwight Deal ; Logan McNatt Cc: s...@caver.net ; Texas Cavers Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 1:27 PM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience DD and all, Sounds like all the more reason to have the next one in Oregon. This year it's in the hi 70s to mid 80s. We had rain over the weekend and it's in the 50s at nite. Not every year, mind you, but this year. Of course the first of July, it goes to 90 and higher until the end of fire season (some time in Aug or Sep). Isn't the NSS slogan: Be prepared, but have fun! ? Sounds like an interesting time was had by all. Louise
Re: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention
It is still my goal to rotate the sites, but the BOG has the final say (as you saw this year). The biggest problem with the rotation is finding hosts. I still hope we can have a convention in Flagstaff one day. It was a good site, I just need people the region will accept to be the host group. Seeing different parts of the country, I have not been to before, is one of the pluses to going to convention. Carol From: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com To: cti...@ymail.com; Preston Forsythe pns_...@bellsouth.net; Dwight Deal dirt...@comcast.net; Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com Cc: s...@caver.net s...@caver.net; Texas Cavers texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Monday, July 2, 2012 8:49 PM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention Hi Carol, Here's what I sent to Preston: Whoop de doo! Ely is close (or at least closer than all the others). I worked there for almost 10 years. Love the area. Good excuse to go back! Actually, I have to disagree with the board. East and west are only relative if you have money or don't have to travel 2000 miles. Used to be the convention would be on one side of the country one year; mid-country the next year; and the other side of the country the next year. I thought that was a good plan. You could generally make it to one or two in a 3-year period. Now, with the price of gas... Thanks for the info. Louise Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 13:31:41 -0700 From: cti...@ymail.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention To: pns_...@bellsouth.net; power_lou...@hotmail.com; dirt...@comcast.net; lmcn...@austin.rr.com CC: s...@caver.net; texascavers@texascavers.com The Ely bid was presented but cannot be voted on until the next BOG meeting. Their presentation was very impressive. Carol From: Preston Forsythe pns_...@bellsouth.net To: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com; Dwight Deal dirt...@comcast.net; Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com Cc: s...@caver.net; Texas Cavers texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Monday, July 2, 2012 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention Future NSS Convention Schedule. 2013-Shippensburg, Penn., near Carlisle 2014-Huntsville, AL 2015-Rolla, Missouri 2016-Ely, Nevada. Believe that is the plan voted on by the board. The board had a discussion about having three conventions in the east, but decided that east and west are relative. By the way at the next UTG Grotto meeting ask Pete and Gill to describe the moment the squall line hit the Lewisburg campground, including sound effects. Preston in Outer Browder - - Original Message - From: Louise Power To: Dwight Deal ; Logan McNatt Cc: s...@caver.net ; Texas Cavers Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 1:27 PM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience DD and all, Sounds like all the more reason to have the next one in Oregon. This year it's in the hi 70s to mid 80s. We had rain over the weekend and it's in the 50s at nite. Not every year, mind you, but this year. Of course the first of July, it goes to 90 and higher until the end of fire season (some time in Aug or Sep). Isn't the NSS slogan: Be prepared, but have fun! ? Sounds like an interesting time was had by all. Louise
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Re: [Texascavers] Celebration of Life
On Sunday, July 1, 2012, Jenni Arburn wrote: I'm sorry that I forgot not everyone is into Face Book. Thanks, Joe Ranzau for the reminder. Dear Friends, Family and Misc Loved Ones: Allan Cobb and Linda Palit have very graciously provided us with space to celebrate Nick's life on Saturday, July 7 at 1122 Haltown, San Antonio, 78213. We welcome everyone who touched his life from 11AM to about 4PM. Please being your own chairs, a potluck dish, happy memories and photos to share. We'll have a keg of Shiner beer to toast with and brisket. Don and I look forward to seeing you there. Hugs! - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.comjavascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.comjavascript:;
Re: [Texascavers] Celebration of Life
If you want to stay the evening, we will find you a place to crash. If you are coming, please drop me a note so we have enough food, and please bring lawn chairs. Thanks, Linda On Sunday, July 1, 2012, Jenni Arburn wrote: I'm sorry that I forgot not everyone is into Face Book. Thanks, Joe Ranzau for the reminder. Dear Friends, Family and Misc Loved Ones: Allan Cobb and Linda Palit have very graciously provided us with space to celebrate Nick's life on Saturday, July 7 at 1122 Haltown, San Antonio, 78213. We welcome everyone who touched his life from 11AM to about 4PM. Please being your own chairs, a potluck dish, happy memories and photos to share. We'll have a keg of Shiner beer to toast with and brisket. Don and I look forward to seeing you there. Hugs! - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.comjavascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.comjavascript:;
