Re: [Texascavers] 2018 TCMA Board of Directors election

2017-11-11 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers


 Invalid Access Key

This ballot doesn't seem to exist. Please contact your election 
administrator.



On 11/10/2017 8:34 PM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers wrote:


The elections for the 2018 Board of Directors will be taking place 
starting at midnight tonight. Check your email for your chance to 
weigh in.


Since they were delayed a little by some technical difficulties voting 
will be available until December 1st. Please see our website for the 
candidate bios and everything else important going on in the TCMA


https://www.tcmacaves.org/



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Re: [Texascavers] Name that Cave

2017-10-21 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers
I thought giving out cave locations was the ultimate taboo?


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 Original message From: David via Texascavers 
 Date: 10/21/17  6:26 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: CaveTex 
 Cc: David  Subject: 
[Texascavers] Name that Cave 
Who can tell us about this once popular cave ?

Dropped Pin

https://goo.gl/maps/xzjTddAKpZ72
If you zoom in all the way you can see the chain-link fence around the cave.
Does the BCCP still have a key and grant access ?



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Re: [Texascavers] Mystery Cave of the Month

2017-10-19 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers
Caverns of Sonora?Sent from my Verizon ASUS tablet

 Original Message 
From:David via Texascavers 
Sent:Thu, 19 Oct 2017 22:46:25 -0500
To:CaveTex 
Cc:David 
Subject:[Texascavers] Mystery Cave of the Month

>From David Locklear
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>Highly recommended to hit delete button now
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>I took the attached picture around 1996 ( although it has an incorrect camera 
>date processed on it )
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>This image was re-created today using my LG G6 smartphone camera of a small 
>faded print.
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>I doubt only 3 or 4 people would know the lady posing here.
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>Hint:
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>Cavepearl's future mom
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Re: [Texascavers] Bexar Grotto is the center of the caving universe and here's proof...

2017-08-29 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers

Yes I agree, and the PBSS is slowly fading away... slowly


On 8/29/2017 3:46 PM, Bennett Lee via Texascavers wrote:


I just wanted to point out that Texas has eight separate Grottos, and 
that the leaders of all the major *Texas, national,* and 
*international* cave organizations are *all Bexar Grotto members.*


  * /International Union of Speleology (UIS)
/President: George Veni, Bexar Grotto

  * /National Speleological Society (NSS)
/President: Geary Schindel, Bexar Grotto

  * /National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI)
/Executive Director: George Veni, Bexar Grotto

  * /Texas Speleological Association (TSA)
/Chairman: Rob Bisset, Bexar Grotto

  * /Texas Speleological Survey (TSS)
/President: Joe Mitchell, Bexar Grotto

  * /Texas Cave Management Association (TCMA)
/President: Gregg Williams, Bexar Grotto

I HEREBY DECLARE THE BEXAR GROTTO AS THE CENTER OF THE CAVING 
UNIVERSE. BEXAR GROTTO ROCKS.


--Bennett



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Re: [Texascavers] Anyone know where caver Dale Ellison is living :

2017-08-27 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers

http://www.cemetery-repair.com/ 

http://facebook.com/CemeteryDale 


   CELL PHONE 682.248.7311


   emaild...@cemetery-repair.com



On 8/27/2017 1:36 AM, Jerry via Texascavers wrote:

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Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] 12 miles in USA Today

2017-07-11 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers

37 years of caving is limited experience... Geez.

Maybe that was why I was denied entry into Lech too because of my 
limited experience...


I was told I had to volunteer to work and do my part to go there several 
years ago... I have yet to be notified that I could participate even in 
a mule fashion of assistance.


My perception hasn't changed one bit.

As far as Whitenose... Did anyone even listen to Dr. Tuttle at the 
Convention? The country's foremost and knowledgeable person said there 
isn't much anyone can do except let it run it's course. Yet things have 
not changed and caves still remain closed or limited.


Bill



On 7/11/2017 9:13 PM, Steve Peerman wrote:

Bill,
I would be remiss in my job as Project Director if I didn’t respond. 
 I agree that this is an unfortunate perception of the FSCSP. 
 However, we work very hard to be as inclusive as possible.  The 
perception of privilege and exclusivity is, for the most part, a 
consequence of the severe limitations on entries imposed by the BLM. 
The management plan for Fort Stanton Cave calls for as many as two 
trips per day with as many as 10 cavers per trip.  That plan has been 
superseded for the last several seasons, in response of the perceived 
threat of WNS, with an annual limit of 120 entries into the cave. 
 That is supposed to accommodate all research, exploration and 
administrative entries for the season, from April 15 through October 31.
Because of this severe limitation, every entry into the cave is 
valuable and we have to make sure that we make good use of each entry. 
It makes it difficult for someone of limited experience to be placed 
on a trip, but it does happen.  We encourage trip leaders to be 
inclusive, and in the last couple of years, where more activities were 
focused on the historical part of the cave because of flooding in 
Snowy River, several new cavers and cavers new to Fort Stanton Cave 
got an opportunity to participate.



On Jul 11, 2017, at 7:42 PM, Bill Bentley > wrote:


Only a few privileged established cavers...


On 7/11/2017 7:10 PM, Dwight wrote:
New Mexico's Lincoln County, Snowy River and Fort Stanton Cave make 
headlines in USA TODAY!


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/local/2017/07/05/snowy-river-book-sold-fort-stanton-live/453916001/

Will this bring us some new NSS members?

This news release does refer interested individuals to the Fort 
Stanton Cave Study Project web site, but that is clearly written for 
established cavers.  It gives the dates for the upcoming project 
schedule.


Your web site is wonderful, conveys the right message, and is very 
educational. You list a series of requirements for participation in 
work trips and then say:


---

The FSCSP is unable to accommodate persons not possessing all of the 
above skills, attitudes and equipment during project events in 
caves. However you are welcome to join us in surface events where we 
perform other work including ridge-walking and various scientific 
activities such as geophysical surveys during regular or special 
expeditions.


Fort Stanton Cave is a publicly-owned resource and sections of the 
cave have been available in the past for recreational trips under a 
permit system from April 15 through October 31. Although the cave is 
currently closed to the general public because of White Nose 
Syndrome requirements, in the future interested persons may contact 
the BLM 
 
for information concerning application 
 
for a public entrance permit, or directly at the Roswell BLM 
office,. In addition to the SWR , 
the BLM also may be able to provide contact information for caving 
clubs where appropriate experience may be gained to enable future 
participation in FSCSP projects.


---

How do you plan to respond to inquiries from non-cavers in light of 
this discussion of getting new NSS members? It does not seem very  
welcoming but clearly this is something that needs to be dealt with 
on an individual basis.  The implication is that you will refer them 
to a local grotto. It's not clear what the SWR is, but you can find 
out by clicking on the link.


It will be interesting to see how many inquiries the FSCSP and the 
BLM get from non-cavers and cavers who are not NSS members.  I would 
say that this is both an opportunity and a worth-while experiment.  
Keep us posted!


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Re: [Texascavers] History of Comanche Springs

2017-06-07 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers
"Portraits of the Pecos Frontier" by Patrick Dearen. He can be reached at 
patrickdea...@msn.com I was in the cave there a lot back in 1983... Gary 
Franklin has been in there a bunch too... as well as others... 


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 Original message From: Andrea Croskrey via Texascavers 
 Date: 6/7/17  2:10 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Texas 
Cavers  Cc: Andrea Croskrey  
Subject: [Texascavers] History of Comanche Springs 
Howdy Texas Cavers,

My coworker is having a summer intern write a Technical Note on the history of 
Comanche Springs. She's placed a call out for all articles related to Comanche 
Springs and thought I should ask the caving community to contribute. Email me 
at ifandrea.crosk...@twdb.texas.gov  you have or know of material that could 
help her write the report. Also, I'll let you know when the report is done and 
how to get a copy.

Cavingly,
Andrea

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[Texascavers] Fwd: Fwd: [SWR CAVERS] Fw: [NM-ARCH-L] Important Cave Finds in Chihuahua

2016-10-29 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers




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Subject:[SWR CAVERS] Fw: [NM-ARCH-L] Important Cave Finds in Chihuahua
Date:   Fri, 28 Oct 2016 16:10:42 -0600
From:   Lynda A. Sanchez 
To: 	'Jerry' via Southwestern Cavers of the National Speleological 
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fyi, las

-Original Message-
From: MICHAEL RUGGERI
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 2:22 PM
To:nm-arc...@list.unm.edu
Subject: [NM-ARCH-L] Important Cave Finds in Chihuahua

[This is a nm-arch-l posting. Do not simply "reply" to sender.]

October 28, 2016

Important Cave Finds in Chihuahua

INAH Archaeologists in Chihuahua have investigated a cave where an infant
skeleton, the lower half of a man whose ankles were tied, and the remains of
a scarlet macaw along with points, textiles, a sea shell, a bag of deer
skin. The remains were naturally mummified by the dry desert air. The finds
possibly date to 2000 years ago. The site is 250 miles from Paquime, which
was a trading hub between Mesoamerica and the Ancestral Puebloans. The finds
suggest the site pre-dates Paquime, which was founded around 1,300 years
ago. The discovery of a scarlet macaw that pre-dates Paquime may show that
long distance trade in exotic goods predate Paquime.

Western Digs has the report here;
http://westerndigs.org/mummified-bird-baby-found-in-cave-shed-light-on-earliest-desert-farmers/


Mike Ruggeri’s Aztlan World
http://mikeruggerisaztlanworld.tumblr.com

Mike Ruggeri's Casas Grandes World Magazine
http://bit.ly/1ztd8vF  


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[Texascavers] Work Weekend at AMC

2016-09-20 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers
I am looking for volunteers for this coming weekend (9-24 and 25-2016) 
to help clear the road at the Amazing Maze Cave.


I plan to arrive around noon or so on Saturday and we can work on the 
road until dark or until we are exhausted. We are camping Saturday night 
and will finish up on Sunday.


You must be a TCMA member to help out.

Bring tree saws, choppers, cutters and tools to remove mesquite mostly 
and some cactus.


Contact me via email if you can help out.
No trips into the cave are planned.

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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion Help]

2016-08-23 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers

•TP Patrol, an easy job of keeping tabs on the bathrooms and toilet paper.

Put me down for this, it's a shitty job, but I am qualified and been spreading 
it around for years, so maybe time to clean it up!
LOL

Bill


On 8/23/2016 4:48 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers wrote:

51 Days Left!!

Bring this up at your grotto meetings!!

TCR needs confirmations for the following volunteers:

•Dish washers: Sheryl, Dale (2 more!)

•Firewood gathering, work to be done at the park soon!!! Contact me.

•Door Prize Vixens to give out prizes!

•TP Patrol, an easy job of keeping tabs on the bathrooms and toilet paper.

•Registration Nation: Kris, Lizette, Jake (need a couple more)

•Shiner Retrievers, WHO DOESN'T WANT FREE BEER!?

•Ropes Popes, rope climbing organizers and belayers

•Survey Squad, organizers

•SpeleOlympic Wranglers, organizers

•Sleeping Bag Clothes Change Contest Crew (contest resurgence) organizers

•Recyclers are Stefan & Dale! (These guys are badass!)

•Hot Tub Team, folks who can help put the tub and sauna together.

•Mud wrestler pit builders Galen (a couple more helpers & a referee)

•Someone to make some awards!

•Minion(s) enthusiast to help me

PLEASE? Bring this up at your grotto meetings!! These are short term fairly 
easy things, they aren't going to take up much time and EVERYONE will be 
grateful.
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Re: [Texascavers] to slow learner

2016-05-25 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers
That reason is why I am slowly shutting down my mailing lists. Spam 
Wins, I surrender...



Bill


On 5/25/2016 3:53 PM, Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers wrote:
Seems some clients don't show the email, some do, some show partials.  
It depends on how an email client sends the name of the person that is 
author.  Gmail seems to play nice for the most part, but even I don't 
see the names of some of the people.


As I stated before to everyone, this was forced upon us because of 
AOL, Yahoo, Outlook.com (Microsoft), etc and their anti-spam 
measures.  Those 4 kept marking the listserve email as spam and also 
automatically blocking the emails.  Plus, once they "blacklisted us", 
emails would bounce and the people who used those email addresses 
would get auto-unsubscribed from the list.


I know it's a pain about the lack of name for some people, but without 
moving the mailing list to another medium, there is just not an easy fix.


I've had 0 problems with those big 4 email providers since I changed 
the settings.  No one is getting auto-unsubscribed and I've had to 
deal with 0 spam issues.


If anyone has questions, complaints, comments, feel free to reply or 
send me a private message.


Charles, list serve owner and lurker
wo...@justfamily.org 


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mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>> wrote:


But the e-mail address from which the post came is not displayed
when I read Texas Caver posts. Why did you think this was a
recurring complaint? -- Mixon

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obeyed!—Anthony Trollope, Barchester Towers

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[Texascavers] Fwd: Call for Presentations: US Exploration Session, 2016 NSS Convention in Ely, Nevada

2016-04-12 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers




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Subject: 	Call for Presentations: US Exploration Session, 2016 NSS 
Convention in Ely, Nevada

Date:   Tue, 12 Apr 2016 06:24:07 +
From:   Kambesis, Patricia 
To: 	ca...@caver.net , s...@caver.net , 
MoCaves , Cave Texas , 
Cave List , Sandia Grotto Cavers Mailing List 
, Ilspeleo Cavers Mailing List 




Call for Presentations:  US Exploration Session at the 2016 NSS Convention

Hey all:


This year is the 75^th Anniversary of the NSS and that event will be 
celebrated in Ely, Nevada during July 16-23, 2016.It is also a great 
opportunity to share with fellow cavers your cave discoveries, 
exploration stories and mapping exploits at the US Exploration Session. 
This is one of the Convention’s most popular and well-attended venues.



You don’t need to have made record-breaking discoveries to present – all 
exploration is good and can be effectively displayed with photos 
(salon-quality not necessary), any kind of maps, and some good stories.


Presentations are relatively painless – 15-20 minutes in length is 
typical though we can provide some 30-minute slots.Single or multiple 
presenters are welcome. Presentation format is open - powerpoint or 
other computer media, slides if that's all you got!, or just stand up 
and tell some good exploration stories!



For the program, please send an abstract (short summary of what your 
talk is about -250 words max) to Pat Kambesis, US Exploration Session 
Coordinator at pat.kambe...@wku.edu .   
Deadline is May 10, 2016.


Feel free to forward this message to other cavers!


See you in Ely, Nevada!

/
/Pat Kambesis
US Exploration Session Coordinator



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Re: [Texascavers] Bexar Grotto Holiday (Christmas/Hanukah/Kwanza/Ramadan) Party Announcement

2015-12-10 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers



On 12/10/2015 3:14 PM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers wrote:


Are atheists and agnostics allowed too?

-Stefan

*From:*Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Geary Schindel via Texascavers

*Sent:* Thursday, December 10, 2015 3:08 PM
*To:* bexargro...@googlegroups.com; 'texascavers@texascavers.com'
*Subject:* [Texascavers] Bexar Grotto Holiday 
(Christmas/Hanukah/Kwanza/Ramadan) Party Announcement


Folks,

This is a reminder of the Bexar Grotto Holiday 
(Christmas/Hanukah/Kwanza/Ramadan) Party is scheduled for *Saturday, 
December 12 (2015) starting at 6 pm* at Geary and Sue Schindel’s house 
at 11310 Whisper Dawn, San Antonio, Texas 78230. (That is this weekend 
for the calendar challenged)


Thanks, and hope to see you there.

Geary Schindel

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Re: [Texascavers] Bexar Grotto Holiday (Christmas/Hanukah/Kwanza/Ramadan) Party Announcement

2015-12-10 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers

They buy the Booze!

On 12/10/2015 3:14 PM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers wrote:


Are atheists and agnostics allowed too?

-Stefan

*From:*Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Geary Schindel via Texascavers

*Sent:* Thursday, December 10, 2015 3:08 PM
*To:* bexargro...@googlegroups.com; 'texascavers@texascavers.com'
*Subject:* [Texascavers] Bexar Grotto Holiday 
(Christmas/Hanukah/Kwanza/Ramadan) Party Announcement


Folks,

This is a reminder of the Bexar Grotto Holiday 
(Christmas/Hanukah/Kwanza/Ramadan) Party is scheduled for *Saturday, 
December 12 (2015) starting at 6 pm* at Geary and Sue Schindel’s house 
at 11310 Whisper Dawn, San Antonio, Texas 78230. (That is this weekend 
for the calendar challenged)


Thanks, and hope to see you there.

Geary Schindel

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[Texascavers] Fwd: NSS Conservation Network - Friends of Mammoth Cave Initiate Crystal Cave Restoration Crowdfunding

2015-10-12 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers




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Subject: 	NSS Conservation Network - Friends of Mammoth Cave Initiate 
Crystal Cave Restoration Crowdfunding

Date:   Mon, 12 Oct 2015 09:24:15 -0600
From:   Steve Smith 
To: stevenlsm...@usa.net



Howdy Cavers!

Here's a conservation project you may want to support:

'The Friends of Mammoth Cave' are asking for assistance in their special
restoration efforts within historic Floyd Collins Crystal Cave.  Check out the
Indiegogo Crowdfunding Campaign the 'Friends' group has initiated, along with
a story describing how Jim and Val Werker are assisting in ongoing speleothem
repair efforts in this famous Kentucky cave.

Check it out at:

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/crystal-cave-restoration#/
  
Please share this with your contacts!


Thanks!

Steve Smith
Coordinator - NSS Conservation Alert Network




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Re: [Texascavers] [TCR][2015]

2015-08-26 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers



On 8/26/2015 11:15 AM, Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers wrote:

Don had promised me dish washing minions. Come be my minion! 😈

Sheryl Rieck
sheryl.ri...@gmail.com 

"You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you just 
might find you get what you need" Rolling Stones


On Aug 26, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Don Arburn via Texascavers 
mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>> wrote:




On Aug 25, 2015, at 10:11 PM, Karen via Texascavers 
mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>> wrote:



Ha.. in other words, on demand!

In all seriousness though, the titles are very cute, but perhaps it 
would be helpful to describe a little of what they do?  Do Charmin 
Bearers just bring the tp?


Yes, they just bring TP, and distribute to the portojohns as needed. 
No one should run out of TP. Simple, once a day, go check them, leave 
TP as needed.


Dishwashing is self explanatory. As is the Slideshow Nerd & the 
Speleolympics Officials. Help or don't. I'm just lining up volunteers 
early.


And I'm sure some are wondering what the very high profile and 
respected Loo Crew really does...


The Paradise Canyon Loo Crew keeps the Paradise Canyon Loos clean.

I couldn't make last year's TCR, but fully expect to attend this 
year and assist with the activities I've always volunteered for, but 
maybe I could help with one of these too?


Cheers,
Karen


Maybe you could.



On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 9:57 PM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers 
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wrote:


Your shift will be from Friday afternoon to Sunday lunchtime ;-)

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] On Behalf Of Holly
Weinstock via Texascavers
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 9:48 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com 
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] [TCR][2015]

I guess basically - What will I be doing?  And when will my
shift be?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 25, 2015, at 7:03 PM, Arburn Don via Texascavers
mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>> wrote:
>
> Done! Thanks! Questions?
>
>> On Aug 25, 2015, at 4:51 PM, Holly Weinstock via Texascavers
wrote:
>>
>> I can be a Recycle Gatherer.
>> Holly Weinstock
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 25, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Arburn Don via Texascavers
mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> O.K. troglodytes & troglodyte lovers, TCR is approaching and
it needs help in order to happen. Many have already stepped up
and currently slaving away and are working towards your
enjoyment and trouble free fun.
>>> However, TCR needs some volunteers.
>>>
>>> Charmin Bearers
>>> Paradise Canyon Loo Crew
>>> Scrubby Dish Washer Crews
>>> Recycle Gatherers
>>> Slideshow Nerds
>>> Speleolympics Officials
>>> Signmaker
>>>
>>> Please give me a shout if you think you can help!
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> ~The Ringmaster
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Re: [Texascavers] TSA Photo Salon

2015-04-23 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers

what is your email address?


On 4/23/2015 9:57 AM, Don Arburn via Texascavers wrote:

Get me your photo submissions!

If you have digital photo submissions, NOW IS THE TIME, to send them.

I have none so far, which means I will submit my own AND WIN. You don't want 
that, do you?

Remember, Kayla Mitchell, won the map salon a couple years back with a crayon 
on laser paper because no one could represent...


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Re: [Texascavers] Map Salon at TSA Spring Convention, April 25th

2015-04-20 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers
It will be late I am sure they will be closed around midnight...
On Apr 20, 2015 10:10 AM, "Roger Moore (cavera...@aol.com) via Texascavers"
 wrote:

> Yes, Tom Summers says that early camping arrivals (before CWAN closing
> time) on Thursday are fine. Arrive early and get a choice spot!
>
> Roger G. Moore
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Bentley via Texascavers 
> To: CaveTex 
> Sent: Mon, Apr 20, 2015 9:16 am
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Map Salon at TSA Spring Convention, April 25th
>
>  Can we arrive early on Thursday night?
>  On Apr 20, 2015 9:14 AM, "Ellie Watson via Texascavers" <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>
>>Cavers,
>>
>> I will be chairing the Map Salon for the TSA Spring Convention on April
>> 25th at Cave Without A Name in Boerne, TX.
>>
>> Please prepare your maps that have been created in the last year. Cash
>> prizes for the winners!
>>
>> Check out the rules at http://cavetexas.org/events/mapsalon.html. Entry
>> forms will be available at convention.
>>
>> Hard copies of all maps must be submitted to me, Ellie Falgout, by 10:00
>> a.m on Saturday, April 25th. I plan to set up the salon in the cave so that
>> I can still attend presentations.
>>
>>  Categories:
>>
>>- Caves under 100 m
>> - Caves over 100 m
>> - First-time Cartographer.
>>
>> Judging Criteria: http://cavetexas.org/PDF/map2007judging.pdf
>>
>>  I also need judges for the salons, please let me know if you are willing
>> to assist.
>>
>> See you soon,
>>
>>  Ellie Falgout
>> 509-899-0007
>>  ellie.tho...@gmail.com
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Re: [Texascavers] Map Salon at TSA Spring Convention, April 25th

2015-04-20 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers
Can we arrive early on Thursday night?
On Apr 20, 2015 9:14 AM, "Ellie Watson via Texascavers" <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> Cavers,
>
> I will be chairing the Map Salon for the TSA Spring Convention on April
> 25th at Cave Without A Name in Boerne, TX.
>
> Please prepare your maps that have been created in the last year. Cash
> prizes for the winners!
>
> Check out the rules at http://cavetexas.org/events/mapsalon.html. Entry
> forms will be available at convention.
>
> Hard copies of all maps must be submitted to me, Ellie Falgout, by 10:00
> a.m on Saturday, April 25th. I plan to set up the salon in the cave so that
> I can still attend presentations.
>
> Categories:
>
>-
>
>Caves under 100 m
>-
>
>Caves over 100 m
>-
>
>First-time Cartographer.
>
> Judging Criteria: http://cavetexas.org/PDF/map2007judging.pdf
>
> I also need judges for the salons, please let me know if you are willing
> to assist.
>
> See you soon,
>
> Ellie Falgout
> 509-899-0007
> ellie.tho...@gmail.com
>
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Re: [Texascavers] CaveTex: TSA Spring convention

2015-04-08 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers

Are you going?


On 11/18/1999 3:29 PM, David Locklear wrote:

There was some preliminary discussion this week at
the Houston Grotto meeting about hosting the TSA
spring convention.

Can someone tell me how many people usually show up for
this event?

In recent years, this event has been held in the Hill Country.
What would people think about a more remote, primitive location
in West Texas.Like somewhere on the Pecos River.For
example, the campground at Pandale, Texas.

Please send comments directly to me:

David Locklear   lockl...@pdq.net

This is just a fact-finding mission and does not represent any
official announcement.

Sincerely,
David





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Re: [Texascavers] books on Chauvet Cave

2015-03-24 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers
I will be donating to the TCMA Auction next month this very nice 
laminated poster for your consideration at the TSA Spring Convention.


Thanks,
Bill.

On 3/24/2015 8:24 AM, Diana Tomchick via Texascavers wrote:

Bill Steele and I traveled to Houston about 1.5 years ago to hear Clottes speak 
at the Houston Museum of Natural Science, where he spoke about Cosquer Cave. I 
was impressed with his talk, and with the museum, it's definitely worth a visit.

Roger and Candice Moore were our hosts that weekend, the next day they took us 
out to the San Jacinto battlefield where Roger showed us the locations of the 
archaeological sites he had worked on, including the site where a group of 
Santa Anna's soldiers had discarded their arms in a long row (presumably 
because they had surrendered). That was a great weekend, with great hosts.

Diana

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On Mar 23, 2015, at 6:43 PM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers wrote:


There are used copies available online from about $60 to much more.
New copies start around $260 to $300+. (Based on a quick search)
Clottes also wrote The Shamans of Prehistory and The Cave Beneath the Sea 
(Cosquer Cave).

About 10+ years ago, I was very lucky to find several new copies of the  books 
at the old Half-Price Books on Guadalupe St in Austin for about $25 each. 
Probably because HPB was getting ready to move.

A group of cavers saw Jean Clottes speak about 10 (?) years ago on successive 
nights in San Antonio and Austin, sponsored by the Archaeological Institute of 
America. He is an excellent speaker with great stories. I surprised him with 
the books which he gladly autographed. He was happy to know there were cavers 
in the audience.

Logan McNatt
lmcn...@austin.rr.com


On 3/22/2015 9:25 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers wrote:

Thanks, Jerry. That sure sounds like a very impressive job of creating an 
artificial cave.

Inevitably, the discovery of Chauvet Cave gave rise quite quickly to a couple 
of coffee-table books.

Chauvet Cave: The Discovery of the World's Oldest Paintings, by Chauvet, 
Deschamps, and Hillaire, 1996, seems to be out of print. So, apparently, is a 
paperback reprint from 2001.

Chauvet Cave: The Art of Earliest Times, edited by Jean Clottes, 2003, is also 
out of print.

Such coffee-table art books seldom stay in print for long. They end up on 
remainder tables within a year or so. Both books are available used.-- Mixon

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[Texascavers] Fwd: Karst Field Studies 2015 Summer Program

2015-03-06 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers


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From:   North, Leslie 
To: North, Leslie 
Subject:Karst Field Studies 2015 Summer Program



Apologies for any duplication in this announcement. We appreciate your 
patience while we prepared for courses this summer. This message is to 
officially announce the course line for the summer 2015 Karst Field 
Studies program. Please help us spread the word about the program by 
forwarding this message to your colleagues, staff, students, friends, 
and any other parties you feel may be interested in this program.


Western Kentucky University Department of Geography and Geology and in 
cooperation with the Mammoth Cave International Center for Science and 
Learning are pleased to announce the launch of the Summer 2015 Karst 
Field Studies Program. Courses this summer will include:


- Cave Archaeology, June 1-6, Dr. George Crothers
- Karst Hydrogeology of the Ozarks, May 31-June 7, Dr. Robert Lerch and 
Ben Miller, MsC

- Research Methods for Cave and Karst Science June 17-21, Dr. Jason Polk

Courses may be taken for graduate, undergraduate, or continuing 
education credit. Courses may also be taken just for fun as non-credit 
workshops. Registration officially ends May 8, but be sure sign up early 
for discounted registration.


For more information about the program, courses, how to register, and 
instructors, please visit karstfieldstudies.com.


If you have any questions please contact the Karst Field Studies 
Director, Dr. Leslie North, at leslie.no...@wku.edu 



"Like" us on Facebook at Karst Field Studies (WKU/Mammoth Cave).

Hope to see you this summer!

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Associate Director of Education
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[Texascavers] Fwd: Fwd: Please post announcement

2015-03-03 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers


Date:   Tue, 03 Mar 2015 12:37:27 -0600
From:   Bill Bentley 
Reply-To:   ca...@caver.net
Organization:   PBSS
Subject:Fwd: Please post announcement



Hi Bill,
Could you send this message out to all of the list serves you manage?
Many thanks,
Dan



Call for Presentations: Cooperative Projects between Cavers, State 
Surveys, Agencies and NGOs at the NSS Convention in Waynesville, 
Missouri, July 13-17, 2010.5


The purpose of this session is to look at ways organized cavers can work 
with a variety of government agencies, local governments, and 
non-government organizations that manage caves.


Emphasis is on survey, monitoring, data management and restoration projects.

A major part of this session will be a round-table on state cave surveys 
and how the proper accumulation of data gives cave organizations the 
ability to interdigitate with agencies and others that need that data to 
properly manage cave resources as well as to effectively explore new 
opportunities for discovery both on and off public lands.


Presentations are 20-30 minutes in length.  Let us know how much time 
you need.  Presentation format is open to any medium.  Let us know if 
you have specific needs for your presentation.


Send an abstract, no longer than 250 words to daniellamp...@att.net 
 by April 25, 2015.


Please share this information with other cavers.

Making valued contributions are essential to maintaining access to 
publicly owned caves.  In addition, proper management of and access to 
data is key to successful cooperation among cavers in order to support a 
wide range of projects.  Cavers around the nation have been doing this 
for decades.  Come share what's worked and what has not.


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[Texascavers] Fwd: [SWR] For Sale: Deep, Spacious Roswell Property, Once Occupied by a Missile

2015-01-15 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers




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Todays New York Times had this spiffy story, with a photo of the little
stairway door out on the Gyp plains.

   For Sale: Deep, Spacious Roswell Property, Once Occupied by a Missile

 By RICK ROJAS

The Roswell, N.M., site had been the home of an Atlas-F missile, 100
times more powerful than the atomic bomb dropped on Nagasaki. The silo
is a fixer-upper, to put it mildly.

Copy and paste this URL into your browser: http://nyti.ms/1yhbSA3

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Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers
Bracketville  is Not close for me
And the pecan pollen made me sick with sinus attack for a couple of weeks!
On Jan 7, 2015 10:07 PM, "Fritz Holt via Texascavers" <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> I'm with Charles. The convention held at Ft. Clark several years ago was
> the best and the area had everything. What a beautiful paradise. Some may
> think it is too far west but it is worth the drive. It would also encourage
> more participants from the western parts of the state.
> Fritz Holt
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jan 7, 2015, at 10:51 AM, Charles Loving via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>
> I like Bracketville myself. It is close to my house. It has swimming and
> water and a hotel for the codgers and there are dozens of caves nearby. The
> NSS Convention went off well there.  We also did Chalk Bluff once and got
> drowned out.
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Don Arburn via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>
>> Ok, Cavers, I'm starting to think about this upcoming TCR, locations and
>> dates. Paradise Canyon called me yesterday, and asked me to ask around and
>> spread the word that if we have any need for a meeting site, he'd be happy
>> to help. We all like PC, but they still have no water. It's not a deal
>> killer. It's an option for TSA, TCMA and TCR.
>> How do y'all feel about this site?
>>
>> Next is the date. There have been several "traditional" weekends and many
>> suggestions etc. I've penciled in the weekend of October 15-18 as a target
>> date.
>> How do y'all feel about that?
>>
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Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers
I like earlier weekend
And always liked paradise canyon or flat creek ranch
On Jan 7, 2015 11:02 AM, "Stefan Creaser via Texascavers" <
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>  TC ?
>
>
>
> All Mal needs to do is get to Houston and you can drive her from there,
> Lyndon…
>
>
>
> -Stefan
>
>
>
> *From:* Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Lyndon Tiu via Texascavers
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 07, 2015 10:58 AM
> *To:* Cavers Texas
> *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey
>
>
>
> TC please. Lots of trees. More shade if hot. More wind breakers if cold.
>
>
>
> Mal's bday is Oct. 16 ... so that's a vote for that weekend. Provided we
> can convince Mal to drive all the way from La for this ...
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Re: [Texascavers] Texascavers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 21

2014-12-21 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers
Enjoying Christmas with relatives and friends Mr. Fleming.. I am sure
Charles G is doing the same...He sponsors  this list.. not I A
thanksless job I just hope those that are offending are aware that
there are government agencies, educational fscalities, land owners,
children  and others who might not be cavers, but are interested on these
lists... It certainly doesn't do cavers in a good light
Bill
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>  Hey Bentley, when you gonna start moderating this pissing match?
>
>
>
> On 12/21/2014 11:45, Julie Jenkins via Texascavers wrote:
>
> Well, since yur sharing with to and intend this for only me and have a
> suck ass name like sleaveweasel- well no more need to said- a locklear fan
> I hope u 2 enjoy each other's special man love! Scumbag!! U shut the fu--
> up. Shithead
>
> On Dec 21, 2014, at 12:01 PM, via Texascavers 
> wrote:
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>   In a message dated 12/21/2014 12:00:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> texascavers@texascavers.com writes:
>
> shut the F---
>
>
> As a person who is often taken to task by inarticulate idiots I support
> Locklear's idiosyncratic comments and strongly suggest that the ignoramus
> who protested his postings take a slug out of the piss bottle and "shut the
> F---k Up!"
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Re: [Texascavers] Austin Caverns

2014-12-15 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers

It's okay David, I didn't read your email either...

Bill

On 12/15/2014 1:31 PM, David via Texascavers wrote:


I did not read the details of the last post, but just skimmed it.

I do not recall that the cave that I went to being across the Colorado 
river, as the report indicated.


My previous post about the vicinity of the cave seem to be mistaken.

I drove down every street in the neighborhood using Google Street 
View, and was NOT able to find anything that resembled the storm-sewer 
that we entered.


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Re: [Texascavers] Summary of last night's DFW grotto meeting

2014-11-20 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers
Well, you could come to the PBSS Christmas party at my house on Friday 
Night Dec 12th...

We are gonna party like it's 1985!

Bill

On 11/20/2014 7:32 PM, Diana Tomchick via Texascavers wrote:

These are not official meeting minutes, but several people were not able to 
make it to last night's DFW Grotto meeting, and asked me to fill them in on 
some things that happened.

1) We re-elected the current slate of officers to serve again in 2015.

Chair: Jake McLeod
Vice-chair: Jacqueline Hawk
Secretary: Bill Steele
Treasurer: Diana Tomchick

2) Since no one could agree on a good weekend in December for the annual grotto 
holiday party (too many travel conflicts), we decided instead to have a New 
Year's party on Saturday, January 3rd. Tom Sims has graciously offered to host 
the party; more details will be forthcoming.

3) For the last approximately 6 months we have known that our long-standing 
meeting site (the Dallas REI store on I-635) would be closing and moving to a 
site closer to the SMU campus and less convenient for the current membership. 
We have tried to find another inexpensive (i.e., free!) meeting room in the 
same general area as the current site, with no luck. Bill Steele has been in 
contact with the Southlake REI store (which just opened last weekend), and they 
are happy to have us meet there at our traditional monthly schedule (the fourth 
Wednesday of every month from January to October, and the third Wednesday of 
November). The new meeting room looks much better than the one we currently 
use--it has built-in A/V and will seat 35 people. The address for the new 
meeting site is

1011 East Southlake Boulevard, Southlake, TX 76092

The REI store is the first store to open in this new mall. We have yet to 
decide on a restaurant for the traditional after-meeting dinner; more details 
will be forthcoming.

4) Four new cavers joined the grotto last night. They attended the November 
Colorado Bend State Park Project and are excited about going caving this 
weekend with the grotto at Spring Creek Cave.

5) We showed the Honey Creek video (by Joe Furman & Jean Krejca) as our program 
last night, and hopefully some of the new members will want to help out with the 
January Tank Hauls.

I think I can speak for all the grotto officers when I say that we are really 
looking forward to a great new year of caving in 2015. We are also hoping that 
the new meeting location will attract new members from all over the DFW 
Metroplex.

Diana

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Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Re: Skywarn Recognition Day

2014-11-06 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers

I am not sure how this got sent to the TC list?
It was suppose to have went to others...
Sorry, Good thing I didn't cuss!

Bill
On 11/6/2014 5:36 PM, Bill Bentley via Texascavers wrote:

 David and Others,
  I will commit to come out and work the HF rig for a couple of 
hours... The last few years it has been a little "N5POB and a lot of 
August K5HCT Show"  and that gets old for both me and him,  I am glad 
to hear that others are getting involved and are excited about it. It 
can and is a lot of fun when you have a group effort.
I may or may not be able to set up and take down.  Too far out to 
forecast.
  I have a question though about what call sign will be used? Will 
it be W5MAF?,  which is currently assigned to Les Blalock N5KOA as a 
Trustee for the West Texas Skywarn Association.  Has he been asked? As 
a courtesy he should be notified as it is his license on the line if 
someone violates the rules and a heaven forbid a citation should be 
issued by the FCC. Hopefully with competent control operators that 
won't be an issue.
I certainly don't mind being the control operator while I am there,  
which would give everyone the Extra Class Portion of the band privileges.

I say take lots of pictures and show the others what they missed.
Make sure there is coffee and donuts and it will be okay.

MY 2 cents worth...Pay me later.
Bill de N5POB

On 11/6/2014 2:52 PM, KF5WDJ wrote:


Gentlemen,

We should all be on the same page for this; so, here is what I have 
so far.  A younger ham in Hobbs has acquired a tower trailer and is 
setting it up for emcomm use.  He is excited and planning on bringing 
it over to try out; and, hopes to have a few other operators come 
with him. A few of the younger hams in Big Spring are planning on 
coming to help as well.  I am putting together an OCF dipole for 80 
through 10.  It will be set up with poles to get it up at 20 feet and 
I have 125’ of feed line for it.  To make this fun, I thought we 
could invite anyone with a portable hf antenna they would like to set 
up to bring it.  We can swap them out on the feed line and see how 
they work.  I thought we might want to keep the rig as simple as 
possible – maybe, a simple portable radio and modest turner.


I have not had much response from Midland and Odessa.  I haven’t 
pushed yet other than the announcement by email and on the net.  I 
will start trying to get commitments on the net.  This week wasn’t 
good due to link conditions. Hopefully those will be worked out soon.


That is my input at this point.  It is probably time to open the 
conversation and my opinion is worth what you paid for it.


73,

David KF5WDJ

*From:* MARC [mailto:marc-boun...@w5qgg.org] *On Behalf Of *STEVE HOPKINS
*Sent:* Thursday, November 06, 2014 10:29 AM
*To:* 'MARC'
*Subject:* [MARC] Club meeting

Meeting announcement

This coming Monday, November 10, 7:30pm

The next scheduled meeting for November will be held at the National 
Weather Service on Highway 80 between the airport and the Airpark 
Mobile home park. This should be convenient for Odessa as well as 
Midland Hams.  As promised, a new Baofeng dual band handy talkie will 
be the door prize, and we will be given a tour of the newly remodeled 
facility.  There will also be an announcement about the Weather 
Service Ham Radio Appreciation Day coming up in early December, and 
we will have a short discussion about Hamfest.


_+_+_+_+_+

The Christmas party on Tuesday, December 9^th will serve as our 
December meeting. The time is 6:30 to 8pm and the location is KD’s 
BBQ on East Florida Street (Hwy 158) near the I-20 overpass. Our last 
handy talkie will be given away along with other door prizes, so be 
sure to attend.  We will also take this time to recognize members of 
the club for their service.


Until then, best 73,

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[Texascavers] Fwd: Re: Skywarn Recognition Day

2014-11-06 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers

 David and Others,
  I will commit to come out and work the HF rig for a couple of 
hours... The last few years it has been a little "N5POB and a lot of 
August K5HCT Show"  and that gets old for both me and him,  I am glad to 
hear that others are getting involved and are excited about it. It can 
and is a lot of fun when you have a group effort.

I may or may not be able to set up and take down.  Too far out to forecast.
  I have a question though about what call sign will be used? Will 
it be W5MAF?,  which is currently assigned to Les Blalock N5KOA as a 
Trustee for the West Texas Skywarn Association.  Has he been asked? As a 
courtesy he should be notified as it is his license on the line if 
someone violates the rules and a heaven forbid a citation should be 
issued by the FCC. Hopefully with competent control operators that won't 
be an issue.
I certainly don't mind being the control operator while I am there,  
which would give everyone the Extra Class Portion of the band privileges.

I say take lots of pictures and show the others what they missed.
Make sure there is coffee and donuts and it will be okay.

MY 2 cents worth...Pay me later.
Bill de N5POB

On 11/6/2014 2:52 PM, KF5WDJ wrote:


Gentlemen,

We should all be on the same page for this; so, here is what I have so 
far.  A younger ham in Hobbs has acquired a tower trailer and is 
setting it up for emcomm use.  He is excited and planning on bringing 
it over to try out; and, hopes to have a few other operators come with 
him.  A few of the younger hams in Big Spring are planning on coming 
to help as well.  I am putting together an OCF dipole for 80 through 
10.  It will be set up with poles to get it up at 20 feet and I have 
125' of feed line for it.  To make this fun, I thought we could invite 
anyone with a portable hf antenna they would like to set up to bring 
it.  We can swap them out on the feed line and see how they work.  I 
thought we might want to keep the rig as simple as possible -- maybe, 
a simple portable radio and modest turner.


I have not had much response from Midland and Odessa.  I haven't 
pushed yet other than the announcement by email and on the net.  I 
will start trying to get commitments on the net. This week wasn't good 
due to link conditions.  Hopefully those will be worked out soon.


That is my input at this point.  It is probably time to open the 
conversation and my opinion is worth what you paid for it.


73,

David KF5WDJ

*From:* MARC [mailto:marc-boun...@w5qgg.org] *On Behalf Of *STEVE HOPKINS
*Sent:* Thursday, November 06, 2014 10:29 AM
*To:* 'MARC'
*Subject:* [MARC] Club meeting

Meeting announcement

This coming Monday, November 10, 7:30pm

The next scheduled meeting for November will be held at the National 
Weather Service on Highway 80 between the airport and the Airpark 
Mobile home park. This should be convenient for Odessa as well as 
Midland Hams.  As promised, a new Baofeng dual band handy talkie will 
be the door prize, and we will be given a tour of the newly remodeled 
facility.  There will also be an announcement about the Weather 
Service Ham Radio Appreciation Day coming up in early December, and we 
will have a short discussion about Hamfest.


_+_+_+_+_+

The Christmas party on Tuesday, December 9^th will serve as our 
December meeting. The time is 6:30 to 8pm and the location is KD's BBQ 
on East Florida Street (Hwy 158) near the I-20 overpass. Our last 
handy talkie will be given away along with other door prizes, so be 
sure to attend. We will also take this time to recognize members of 
the club for their service.


Until then, best 73,

Steve K5RS





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Re: [Texascavers] Texascavers@texascavers.com

2014-09-25 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers

I think my Gmail account was hacked... I didn't send this...
Bill

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[Texascavers] Texascavers@texascavers.com

2014-09-25 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers
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[Texascavers] Fwd: FW: EMERGENCY BULLETIN - Huge Flood hits BTSR

2014-09-17 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers
This is a call for anyone in case they might be interested in doing some 
service work.

Thanks,
Bill

From: gracie.quint...@scouting.org
Subject: EMERGENCY BULLETIN - Huge Flood hits BTSR
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 22:41:19 +
To:

Buffalo Trail Scout Ranch desperately needs clean-up crews to dig out 
from a major flash flood that came down from Goat Cave Creek on Friday, 
September 12th. It was larger than anything experienced in at least the 
last 30 years. Flood damage includes:


* Pool shower house / latrine

* Rocks and boulders in the pool

* Slab for the pool has been partially washed out

* Large trees between the Old Folks Home and the pool washed out

* Both Jeeps, all Kawasaki Mules and four ATV's were submerged

* Shop area was flooded leaving large amounts of silt and rocks

* Water damage to Ranger's house, Buffalo Hall, and the Dining Hall.

BTSR needs anyone that can come out with a shovel in hand. Please 
consider coming to BTSR over the next several weeks to lend a hand. With 
Cub-O-Rees scheduled October 18th and 25th, we need to make sure the 
Dining Hall is operational. The bottom line is BTSR needs help, 
desperately! The ideal weekends are the weekends of September 26 - 28, 
October 3 - 5, and October 10 - 12.


If whole troops are unable to help, individuals or families are welcome 
to volunteer weekdays or weekends. Contact Rangerdan directly to 
schedule a time and projects. You can reach Dan at:


rangerd...@hotmail.com 

432-426-3709

If you have your own, please bring:

* Shovels

* Rakes

* Wheelbarrows

* Gloves and any other tools that would be beneficial

PLEASE NOTE: Due to the damage at camp, any camping will be primitive. 
Troops need to bring their own food and water. At this time, there is 
water available but we cannot guarantee that it will still be when you 
arrive.


Mark Richardson

Assistant Scout Executive

Director of Camping and Outdoor Programs

BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA

Buffalo Trail Council

1101 W. Texas Avenue

Midland, Texas 79701

P 432.570.7601 | F 432.570.7611

mark.richard...@scouting.org 

www.buffalotrailbsa.org 

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Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: EARTH: Valley Fever an Occupational Hazard for Geoscientists

2014-09-14 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers
I contracted this or a variation of it in 2010 digging in 5 Mouth Cave... I
spent time in the hospital... They treated me like I had Histoplasmosis...
I responded well to the antibiotics But without the treatment. .. I was
going downhill quickly... I would have been dead within a few days. I now
have limited lung capacity... scaring shows up and looks
like spider webs on my lung xrays...
Bill
On Sep 14, 2014 2:37 PM, "Julia Germany via Texascavers" <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

>  As a member of AGI, I received this press release.  Until now, I have
> never heard of Valley Fever.  I am curious if any of you out there have any
> experience/knowledge about it.
>
> julia
>
>  germa...@aol.com
>
>
>  -Original Message-
> From: AGI Public Relations 
> To: germanyj 
> Sent: Wed, Sep 10, 2014 2:15 pm
> Subject: EARTH: Valley Fever an Occupational Hazard for Geoscientists
>
>  Contact: Megan Sever (mse...@earthmagazine.org)
>
> For Immediate Release
>
> EARTH: Valley Fever an Occupational Hazard for Geoscientists
>
> Alexandria, Va. -  Valley Fever - a sometimes-fatal infection with no known 
> cure
> and no vaccine - is caused by a soilborne fungus that thrives in the hot, dry
> soils of the southwestern U.S., Mexico and Central and South America. However,
> recent reports of infections far outside the endemic area indicate the fungus 
> is
> either spreading or becoming active in new areas. The disease is contracted
> through inhalation of fungal spores, which can be aerosolized by soil
> disturbances from construction, excavation, gardening and landscaping, as well
> as natural events like dust storms, earthquakes, landslides and wildfires.
> Geoscientists working in the field need to take precautions against 
> contracting
> the disease.
>
> Scientists say that little is currently known about the fungus' preferred
> geology and how a changing climate might be affecting its spread. Read more
> about where the disease has been found, current research on the disease and 
> how
> to protect yourself in the field in the September issue of EARTH 
> Magazine:http://bit.ly/1l1mi21.
>
> For more stories about the science of our planet, check out EARTH magazine
> online or subscribe at www.earthmagazine.org. The September issue, now 
> available
> on the digital newsstand, features stories about floating nuclear plants
> potentially being safer from tsunamis than land-based plants, natural arsenic
> levels exceeding regulatory standards in Ohio, and the new literary genre of
> "Cli-Fi," stories about the future of humanity living under an altered 
> climate,
> plus much, much more.
>
>  ###
>
> Keep up to date with the latest happenings in Earth, energy and environment 
> news
> with EARTH magazine online at http://www.earthmagazine.org/. Published by the
> American Geosciences Institute, EARTH is your source for the science behind 
> the
> headlines.
>
> ###
>
> The American Geosciences Institute is a nonprofit federation of 49 
> geoscientific
> and professional associations that represents more than 250,000 geologists,
> geophysicists and other earth scientists. Founded in 1948, AGI provides
> information services to geoscientists, serves as a voice of shared interests 
> in
> the profession, plays a major role in strengthening geoscience education, and
> strives to increase public awareness of the vital role the geosciences play in
> society's use of resources, resiliency to natural hazards, and interaction 
> with
> the environment.
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Re: [Texascavers] TCR Registration Prices

2014-09-12 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers
Forget I asked
On Sep 12, 2014 1:13 PM, "Jon via Texascavers" 
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> It appears that  Ellie will have to build a matrix to rank and rate all
> of the variables to determine this.
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>   On Friday, September 12, 2014 12:55 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
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> I was on the registration sheet at Luckenbach but no one saw me cause I
> was in the bar with Hondo and Strickland.
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> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Jon Cradit via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
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>  Maybe an old timer is someone that attended the first TOTR or at least
> had the choice to attend?
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>  *From:* Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Bill Bentley via Texascavers
> *Sent:* Friday, September 12, 2014 11:50 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] TCR Registration Prices
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> What constitutes an Old Timer qualification?
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>  On 9/12/2014 11:29 AM, Ellie Watson via Texascavers wrote:
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> TCR Registration Prices:
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>
>
> Adult - $25.00
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> Child - $15.00
>
> Family - $80.00
>
> Old timer - $15.00
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>
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> Registration gets you a wristband, meal, beverages and a chance at door 
> prizes.
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Re: [Texascavers] TCR Registration Prices

2014-09-12 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers

What constitutes an Old Timer qualification?


On 9/12/2014 11:29 AM, Ellie Watson via Texascavers wrote:

TCR Registration Prices:

Adult - $25.00
Child - $15.00
Family - $80.00
Old timer - $15.00

Registration gets you a wristband, meal, beverages and a chance at door prizes.

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Re: [Texascavers] TCR is almost here!!!

2014-09-10 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers

I am going after all!...
On 9/10/2014 4:38 PM, Ellie Watson via Texascavers wrote:

TCR is one month away, let the countdown begin to October 9-12, 2014
at Guadalupe River Campgrounds!! We have direct reports that there is
water in the river!

www.guadaluperv.com

7200 Spring Branch Rd
Spring Branch, Texas 78070
Rio Medina, TX, 78066

Texas Cavers Reunion is at a brand new location in Spring Branch, TX,
on 3/4 miles of the Guadalupe River! Information will be updated at:
www.cavetexas.org/events/TCR/index.html

All the fun will be there...Speleolympics, Hot Tub, Big Feed,
Swimming, Awards, carousing, fun and of course-friends.

This is an annual get-together for cavers and caver lovers alike. The
place is ours to enjoy for the weekend with its refreshing water and
view. Food, friends, fun.

Vendors will be available all day Saturday and early Sunday morning
hawking their wares. Registration gets you a wristband, meal,
beverages and a chance at door prizes. The "Big Feed" will happen
Saturday evening followed by awards. Bring your own plate, cup and
feed tools to get the food from your plate to your food hole.

We have the go ahead for live music this year and musical instruments
are welcome, however not at the hot tub. Cameras aren't allowed at the
hot tub either. That end of the park is a quiet zone and it will be
enforced.

Sunday morning, some wonderful intrepid individuals will be making
breakfast to raise funds for the Texas Cave Management Association.

The Texas Speleological Association and Texas Cave Management
Association are having a meeting Sunday morning, schedule to be
announced.

There are showers, some of us will stink before too long, take
advantage of these facilities please.

The theme this year is"Super Villains" so keep up with the event page
for costume ideas. That said, this is a family event, please try to
limit nudity...away from kids, in front of me.

Children and dogs. Both are welcome! They must be well behaved; no
biting, fighting, constant screaming or barking. Pooping on the ground
isn't encouraged, but if they must, please clean up after them. Pets
must be on leash.

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Re: [Texascavers] Related to hoarding speleo-stuff

2014-09-09 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers

I have a copy of that photo by Michael Queen taken in Carlsbad Caverns...


On 9/9/2014 7:48 PM, David via Texascavers wrote:


The link below shows what $ 7 will get you at The Goodwill Store, if 
you have a trained eye for such bargains.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/xtj1zvhgqb7fnpv/Speleothems.jpg?dl=0

It is in a 24" x 36" frame.

I know I have seen this photo somewhere similar to this before.

I waited a week to buy it, and nobody beat me to it.

David Locklear
Amateur speleo-hoarder



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[Texascavers] Texas Cavers Magazine

2014-08-13 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers

Hi All,
I got my current issue of the Texas Cavers and I didn't know that it had 
a little plastic tape thingy on the open side and when I went to open 
it... It ripped.
 I am sure that it was placed there to keep it from flying open and 
getting mangled by the USPS...

Anyways warning to others to be careful and not rip your magazine...

Bill
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Re: [Texascavers] Cave Rescue

2014-08-03 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers
ted by county.

Bexar 210-326-1576

Collin 214-202-6611

Hays 512-393-9054

Sutton 325-387-3424

Travis 512-663-2287

I would imagine calling the closest one could get you info on cavers close to 
whatever rescue area you need. Hope this helps.

Also, don't know if this is current, but TSA website shows David Ochel as 
safety and techniques chairman at saf...@cavetexas.org.

Mimi Jasek

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:09 AM, Bill Bentley via Texascavers 
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Greetings Cavers...
   Is there a call out number for Texas Cave rescue?
Besides 911, is there a main number and person or entity to call in the event 
of a cave rescue in the state?
To be a little more specific, is there one for the Southwestern part of Texas?

Thanks,
Bill
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[Texascavers] Cave Rescue

2014-08-03 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers

Greetings Cavers...
Is there a call out number for Texas Cave rescue?
Besides 911, is there a main number and person or entity to call in the 
event of a cave rescue in the state?
To be a little more specific, is there one for the Southwestern part of 
Texas?


Thanks,
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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver

2014-07-31 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers

Mark, The Texascavers and all my mailing lists do allow attachments,
We are finally getting into the 1990's technology...
:)
Bill

On 7/31/2014 6:23 AM, via Texascavers wrote:


I agree with you, Marvin.

On occasion, when the picking were slim for the TC, I had to resort to 
the same thing in order to get it published.


No harm in that.

Not everyone has access to these listserves (is that a word?) and, 
since attachments aren’t allowed, I would ping the writers for photos 
to go along with their offerings to further flesh out their report.


“Put a little meat on their bones”, in other words.

One’s gotta do what one’s gotta do when the pickings are a little slim.

A report is a report.

My main query yesterday was not just how the TC was doing, but how is 
the TSA doing, as in membership numbers and trends.


Organized clubs are struggling, including many grottos and the NSS. 
How does the TSA look?


Mark

*From:*Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Marvin Miller via Texascavers

*Sent:* Wednesday, July 30, 2014 10:19 PM
*To:* Heather Tucek; texascavers@texascavers.com
*Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver

For the record - and I'm not mad at anyone; I think this is a good 
discussion - the Texas caving news appearing in the latest issue of 
the NSS News is in Buford Pruitt's "Underground Online" column. 
Buford's method - as I understand it - is trolling the chatter on 
various blogs, email lists, etc. across the nation and compiling the 
interesting bits in his column. That is how a Colorado Bend trip 
report, a Government Canyon trip report, and a report on the latest 
Deep Cave trip ended up in the NSS News. They were not sent to the 
News as an article to be published but were instead picked up by 
Buford off of this very email listserve. That's great. Cavers across 
the nation and the world need to see that Texas cavers go caving and 
do interesting things.


I know that occasionally the three people who wrote those reports for 
Texascavers.com also compile the happenings in their respective 
projects in a bit more of a readable and concise fashion with pictures 
and maps and submit an article to the Texas Caver. That's also a great 
thing. If the editors of the Texas Caver want to pull things of the 
email list and publish it, more power to them. I'll continue to 
support the magazine and the TSS and news about caving in Texas 
wherever it appears.




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[Texascavers] CREE lights

2014-07-30 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers

Greetings,
 Anyone have any experiences with CREE headlights? Good? Bad? other 
wise...
It says 3000 Lumens, It cause pain when I try to look in the beam... And 
leaves a streak like you have looked at a welding light ... temporary 
though...
It is bright and I have tested it on two  2800 mAh 3.7 v batteries for 
48 hours and there is still usable light although not as bright as it 
was...

Bill

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