[Texascavers] 2018 TCMA Board of Directors election

[Gregg Williams via Texascavers]

The elections for the 2018 Board of Directors will be taking place starting
at midnight tonight. Check your email for your chance to weigh in.

Since they were delayed a little by some technical difficulties voting will
be available until December 1st. Please see our website for the candidate
bios and everything else important going on in the TCMA

https://www.tcmacaves.org/
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Re: [Texascavers] Midnight Cave -- Lower Entrance

[Gregg Williams via Texascavers]

This has not happened to my knowledge but has been discussed as an
alternative for at least one cave recently.

On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Bill Steele via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> Has TCMA ever leased a cave?
>
> On Nov 6, 2017, at 10:07 AM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>
> That's a great idea Bill. The TCMA has committed itself to building a
> strong organizational foundation so it can, in the future, partner with
> organizations to purchase large tracts with caves. Midnight cave is located
> on a very large ranch and big purchases like that are not within the scope
> of the TCMA at this time.
>
> Currently the TCMA is actively engaged in the purchase of property with
> the TSS to house the yet unnamed Texas caving headquarters. While there
> isn't a cave on the property and it is a little less exciting the purchase
> will give a permanent home to Texas caving and it's assets and archives.
> This will also mean that the TSS's archives will be more easily accessed by
> cavers so they can find that new big project or get  their new discoveries
> recorded for posterity.
>
>  Also, as far as I know there is no reason to believe the ranch Midnight
> is on is for sale at this time.
>
> Gregg
>
> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Bill Steele via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>
>> How about the TCMA acquiring Midnight Cave and more caves for caving?
>>
>> On Nov 6, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Scott C <scotts.la...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> I totally agree with Gregg. This is real caving stuff that is interesting
>> :) Thanks for sharing!
>>
>> Scott Cogburn
>> GHG
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 6, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers <
>> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>>
>> This sort of stuff is what this email list should have more of.
>>
>> Gregg
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 9:27 AM, James Jasek via Texascavers <
>> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Great story
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhoneiPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 5, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers <
>>> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> In Carl's message about digging open the lower entrance from inside
>>> Midnight Cave, he didn't mention what happened next--one of many stories in
>>> the lore of the Carta Valley cavers.
>>>
>>> Carl's original version is in the chapter on Midnight Cave in his *50
>>> Years of Texas Caving* pp. 458-467.
>>> It is better than my synopsis below.
>>>
>>> LowGun
>>>
>>> The successful dig gave Carl Kunath, Ron Bridgemon, Chuck Pease, and
>>> Nick Lucas a rare opportunity to play a devilish trick on the other two
>>> members of the team. Jan and Orion Knox were at the back of the cave where
>>> they had pushed through the tortuous Corkscrew into a significant
>>> unexplored section of the cave.
>>>
>>> The dig crew exited the new entrance, walked over to the pit entrance,
>>> and pulled up the rope. They reentered through the lower entrance and met
>>> up with Jan and Orion, who were not told of the discovery. Arriving at the
>>> bottom of the pit entrance to find no rope, the conspirators feigned dismay
>>> and consternation, but were disappointed at the calm reaction of Jan and
>>> Orion. A brief quest for another way out surprised them with sunlight
>>> coming through the new entrance.
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Re: [Texascavers] Midnight Cave -- Lower Entrance

[Gregg Williams via Texascavers]

That's a great idea Bill. The TCMA has committed itself to building a
strong organizational foundation so it can, in the future, partner with
organizations to purchase large tracts with caves. Midnight cave is located
on a very large ranch and big purchases like that are not within the scope
of the TCMA at this time.

Currently the TCMA is actively engaged in the purchase of property with the
TSS to house the yet unnamed Texas caving headquarters. While there isn't a
cave on the property and it is a little less exciting the purchase will
give a permanent home to Texas caving and it's assets and archives. This
will also mean that the TSS's archives will be more easily accessed by
cavers so they can find that new big project or get  their new discoveries
recorded for posterity.

 Also, as far as I know there is no reason to believe the ranch Midnight is
on is for sale at this time.

Gregg

On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Bill Steele via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> How about the TCMA acquiring Midnight Cave and more caves for caving?
>
> On Nov 6, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Scott C <scotts.la...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I totally agree with Gregg. This is real caving stuff that is interesting
> :) Thanks for sharing!
>
> Scott Cogburn
> GHG
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 6, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>
> This sort of stuff is what this email list should have more of.
>
> Gregg
>
> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 9:27 AM, James Jasek via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>
>> Great story
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhoneiPhone
>>
>> On Nov 5, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers <
>> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>>
>> In Carl's message about digging open the lower entrance from inside
>> Midnight Cave, he didn't mention what happened next--one of many stories in
>> the lore of the Carta Valley cavers.
>>
>> Carl's original version is in the chapter on Midnight Cave in his *50
>> Years of Texas Caving* pp. 458-467.
>> It is better than my synopsis below.
>>
>> LowGun
>>
>> The successful dig gave Carl Kunath, Ron Bridgemon, Chuck Pease, and Nick
>> Lucas a rare opportunity to play a devilish trick on the other two members
>> of the team. Jan and Orion Knox were at the back of the cave where they had
>> pushed through the tortuous Corkscrew into a significant unexplored section
>> of the cave.
>>
>> The dig crew exited the new entrance, walked over to the pit entrance,
>> and pulled up the rope. They reentered through the lower entrance and met
>> up with Jan and Orion, who were not told of the discovery. Arriving at the
>> bottom of the pit entrance to find no rope, the conspirators feigned dismay
>> and consternation, but were disappointed at the calm reaction of Jan and
>> Orion. A brief quest for another way out surprised them with sunlight
>> coming through the new entrance.
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Re: [Texascavers] Midnight Cave -- Lower Entrance

[Gregg Williams via Texascavers]

This sort of stuff is what this email list should have more of.

Gregg

On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 9:27 AM, James Jasek via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> Great story
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhoneiPhone
>
> On Nov 5, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>
> In Carl's message about digging open the lower entrance from inside
> Midnight Cave, he didn't mention what happened next--one of many stories in
> the lore of the Carta Valley cavers.
>
> Carl's original version is in the chapter on Midnight Cave in his *50
> Years of Texas Caving* pp. 458-467.
> It is better than my synopsis below.
>
> LowGun
>
> The successful dig gave Carl Kunath, Ron Bridgemon, Chuck Pease, and Nick
> Lucas a rare opportunity to play a devilish trick on the other two members
> of the team. Jan and Orion Knox were at the back of the cave where they had
> pushed through the tortuous Corkscrew into a significant unexplored section
> of the cave.
>
> The dig crew exited the new entrance, walked over to the pit entrance, and
> pulled up the rope. They reentered through the lower entrance and met up
> with Jan and Orion, who were not told of the discovery. Arriving at the
> bottom of the pit entrance to find no rope, the conspirators feigned dismay
> and consternation, but were disappointed at the calm reaction of Jan and
> Orion. A brief quest for another way out surprised them with sunlight
> coming through the new entrance.
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[Texascavers] TCMA Members Meeting Reminder

[Gregg Williams via Texascavers]

Just a quick reminder that there will be a TCMA members meeting this coming
*SATURDAY * morning at 9am during TCR. We will meet at the patio to the
left of the main lodge house.

I was going to attempt to get electronic copies of the agenda out, but
there isn't a good way to send this out. I will bring some copies to the
meeting and we can share

Gregg
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[Texascavers] TCMA members meeting at TCR

[Gregg Williams via Texascavers]

There will be a members meeting at TCR Saturday morning, 9 am . Members
will meet at the patio to the side of the main building, bring a chair. The
TCMA will also have a fundraiser breakfast on Sunday morning, time TBA.

Gregg
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[Texascavers] Link to the donation page

[Gregg Williams via Texascavers]

Please follow the link below for the Harvey donation page

https://www.tcmacaves.org/fundraising/hurricaneharvey


Thanks,

Gregg
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[Texascavers] Harvey Relief

[Gregg Williams via Texascavers]

Even though the rains in Houston have taken a brake, there is still a long
way to go to dig out of the mess Harvey has made of the Texas coast. Let's
all come together as the family of cavers we are and lend a helping hand to
the folks who are in need right now.

Please take a few minutes reach deep and give what you can . Remember, you
can ear mark those donations to a specific caver family if you already have
someone in mind to help out.

If you can't give money, consider giving your time. Rockport, Port Aransas,
Houston, and many other communities are in shambles. I've rarely seen a
group of folks work harder than cavers to reach a goal. Getting these
communities back on their feet is a lofty one but it's doable with us all
working together.

Gregg
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[Texascavers] Hurricane Harvey Relief

[Gregg Williams via Texascavers]

Cavers and friends -

Our Texas Gulf Coast Caver family is being greatly impacted by Hurricane
Harvey.  Despite cavers being a resilient and well prepared bunch, Harvey
is likely to overwhelm many of them through sheer brute force.  Those of us
fortunate enough not to be severely impacted are already looking for ways
we may help.

Many have graciously opened our homes to folks that evacuated.  It's* not
yet safe *to travel east with supplies and tools to aid in the clean up.
In the interim, we should start preparing to help out as each of us is
able.  For many, the most significant impact we can have is through
financial giving.

The *TCMA is raising funds* for impacted cavers through a dedicated on-line
platform.  All money raised will be tracked separately, does not go towards
other TCMA activities and will be disbursed via a committee to impacted
cavers.  Should you know of a caver already in need, you may earmark your
donated funds for them. A few folks have already confirmed their houses are
flooded and several are likely to be out of work during the long recovery
period.



*DONATION LINK *

*If you were impacted by Hurricane Harvey and need assistance, please email
us at donati...@tcmacaves.org .*

Should you wish to donate outside of the caver family or to the broader
recovery efforts, please consider giving to a national disaster response
group.

The costs in property lost won't be known for many weeks.  While we wait
for the storm to clear we can prepare to assist when it is safe to do so.
We will report back on our efforts frequently and disburse all funds raised
as quickly and as prudently as possible.

Cavingly,

TCMA Officers and Board of Directors
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[Texascavers] 2017 TCMA board of Directors election

[Gregg Williams via Texascavers]

Please take a minute and submit your ballot for the 2017 Board of
Directors. Remember voting ends at midnight November 25th. Don't wait until
it's to late to make your choice known. Vote early, vote often!

Gregg Williams
TCMA VP
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Re: [Texascavers] Bats can fly horizontally at 100mph

[Gregg Williams via Texascavers]

If a Trump can be a president a bird can be whatever it wants to be...

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 1:37 PM, Katherine Arens via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> and "dive" ≠ horizontal   ;-)  (just us humanists being literal . . . )
> -katie arens  ar...@austin.utexas.edu
>
> On Nov 10, 2016, at 12:56 PM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>
> John, I don't think you can call them the fastest moving mammal since the
> Peregrine falcon dives at around 200 mph. I guess you could argue that the
> falcon isn't really propelling itself at 200 mph and just really good at
> falling fast.
>
> Gregg
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Jon Cradit via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>
>> At that speed wouldn’t they also be the fastest moving mammal too.
>>
> [...]
>
> ] *On Behalf Of *Lee H. Skinner via Texascavers
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 11:29 AM
>> *To:* SWR Mailing List <swrcav...@googlegroups.com>; texascavers list <
>> texascavers@texascavers.com>; Sandia Grotto <memb...@sandiagrotto.org>
>> *Subject:* [Texascavers] Bats can fly horizontally at 100mph
>> Scientists studying the flight of Brazilian free-tailed bats have clocked
>> the creatures zipping along at 160 km/h (100 mph), making them the fastest
>> horizontal flyers in the entire animal kingdom.
>>
>>
>>
> 
> Katherine Arens Office Phones: (512) 232-6363
> ar...@austin.utexas.edu Dept. Phone:  (512) 471-4123
> Dept. of Germanic Studies FAX (512) 471-4025
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> University of Texas at Austin Office:  Burdine 320
> Austin, TX  78712-1802
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[Texascavers] 2017 Board of Directors Election ***LIVE NOW***

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I for got to post the notice below to CaveTex last night, but here it is.
If you have received a ballot you have until the 12:00 am November 25 to
vote. If you have not received a ballot you are either not a paid member or
you are one of the emails below that bounced. If your email is below please
contact me off list with corrections or an alternate email.


donna...@aol.com


texascavesaus...@aol.com


rkeol...@swbell.net


rc...@comcast.net


llh...@student.uintx.edu


kmmando_ke...@yahoo.com


fernando.hernan...@austintexas.com


brewsky...@aol.com



Thanks,


Gregg Williams

gr...@oztotl.com



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Dear Members,



It is time for the annual Board Election for the TCMA. The Nominations
Committee has nominated three candidates for the upcoming election. These
candidates offer a wide range of caving and professional experiences to
contribute to the Board.



Elections will be held via an electronic voting system. A current TCMA
membership, in good standing, will be necessary to vote in the election.
In the near future; a link to an online ballot will be sent to current
members.



The TCMA invites you to renew your membership if it has expired and to
consider an additional donation to further cave conservation in Texas.



TCMA is actively working to protect caves, karst and to improve our
existing Preserves. In addition, our Acquisition Committee is continually
looking at new caves and property that fits our mission. In the past year,
the TCMA acquired Avery Ranch Cave and is developing a management plan for
this unique resource. Robber Baron Preserve in San Antonio is now open as a
neighborhood park and educational resource with an informational kiosk
about Robber Baron, TCMA, and caves in general.  Likewise, Punkin' Cave and
Deep Cave, Whirlpool Cave are open for recreational caving.



We appreciate your past support and need your support now more than ever as
we look to protect more Texas caves for cavers. For more information on
TCMA’s Preserves and recent activities, including downloadable copies of
our newsletter, the *TCMA Passages*, please visit our website,
*www.tcmacaves.org
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the red box below and renew your membership and/or donation by going to our
website. If you would prefer not to receive further letters, please notify
us by letter or electronic mail.






*Election Procedures*



You will be able to vote electronically. Elections will open tomorrow
November 5 2016 and will close at 12:00 am November 25. Results will be
announced (published) on or before November 27 unless a tie occurs, in
which case, a tie-breaker procedure will be initiated.



Please contact us at nominati...@tcmacaves.org if you have any questions.



Sincerely,



Galan Falgout,

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[Texascavers] **IMPORTANT** - TCMA members meeting Saturday

[Gregg Williams via Texascavers]

Due to some scheduling conflicts the TCMA will be moving it's traditional
Sunday members meeting time slot to Saturday morning. Be sure to come and
see what YOUR organization is up to

We will be meeting at 9 AM at the concreted patio area at the end of the
main building. If you need more information about the meeting time or have
any questions please contact me off list.

Gregg Williams
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[Texascavers] Cascade Caverns GM Position

[Gregg Williams via Texascavers]

Begin Forwarded Message:

A short term Summer position would be considered as well as someone looking
for full time work

General Manager

DESCRIPTION

At Cascade Caverns, the oldest solution cave attraction in Texas, we are
seeking a General

Manager to work at our 103-acre park in Boerne, Texas. Compensation based
on experience.

DUTIES

As the General Manager, you will be primarily responsible for daily cave
tour operations and

also campground and gift shop management. Specific tasks will include but
not be limited to:

- Scheduling tour guide work and vacation days;

- Interviewing, hiring and training tour guides when owner is unavailable;

- Overseeing camper forms and paperwork;

- Overseeing and reconciling daily cash register closeouts;

- Managing gift shop inventory, merchandising and pricing;

- Assigning and assisting employees (tour guides) with light maintenance
projects

(bathroom cleaning, gift shop stocking, mowing/weed eating, trash can
emptying, etc.);

- Monitoring lighting, wastewater and water systems in the cave and the
park;

- Other various duties and tasks.

QUALIFICATIONS

- High School diploma or GED (college coursework or degree a plus);

- Must have bank account, driver’s license and personal transportation;

- Must like to work, be self-organized, mature and motivated;

- Must be able to walk up-and- down long flights of stairs;

- Prior exposure to the leisure, recreation or tourism/travel industry is a
plus;

- Mechanical ability a plus. Military experience a plus.

Please contact us initially by e-mail and include a resume. If we feel
there’s a match, we’ll invite

you out to the Caverns for a tour. We look forward to meeting you. This job
starts ASAP and

has a 90-day trial period. Must be able to pass a background check.

Call (703) 785-7953 or e-mail lbk...@cascadecaverns.com .
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Re: [Texascavers] Dr. Michael Campana will speak on April 8 as the 20th Edwards Aquifer Authority Distinguished Lecturer

[Gregg Williams via Texascavers]

Sounds like a good talk. I'll take a flyer

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Geary Schindel via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> Folks,
>
> I'm pleased to announce that Dr. Michael Campana, Professor of
> Hydrogeology and Water Resources Manager at Oregon State University will be
> the next Edwards Aquifer Authority Distinguished Lecturer. The title of the
> lecture is "A Water Wonk's World." Some of the topics to be covered include
> Modeling of the Edwards Aquifer in 1975, Mississippi-Memphis Supreme Court
> Battle, Transboundary Water Resources, and Hydrophilanthropy. To receive a
> flyer on the presentation detailing registration information, you can email
> me at gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org
> or you can visit the Edwards Aquifer Authority web page at
> www.edwardsaquifer.org
>
> Remember seating is limited so register early.
>
> Hope to see you there.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Geary Schindel
> Edwards Aquifer Authority
> San Antonio, Texas
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Re: [Texascavers] Water Filter for Toxic Metals

[Gregg Williams via Texascavers]

I like the Saywer Mini filter (filter link, click here
). This thing is tiny and
the whole sha-bang fits in a Nalgene bottle. It's filter is rated to 0.1
micron absolute which is enough to filter all your protozoan (giardia and
cryptosporidium) and bacterial bugs(salmonella, cholera and E.coli). For
the heavy metal contamination you would need activated carbon. The amount
that is removed by the carbon is directly proportional to the amount of
time the water is in contact with the carbon. If the water is heavily
contaminated by metals you might want to just find another source if
possible.

Gregg


On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Robert B via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> I just want to do my part to ensure my caver fiends good health.
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> Question...
> Can anybody recommend a portable - medium capacity (20 gal/day) water
> filter that can remove toxic metals such as lead, arsenic mercury. Those
> metals typically found in mines.
>
> The specifications listed for typical water filters leaves a bit to be
> desired when it comes to metals.
>
> Would using two types of filtration systems work better. A typical
> backpacking filter followed by a run through activated charcoal. ???
>
> Can the water found in the mines at Minas Viejas be filtered adequately
> for drinking by large group of cavers.
>
> Other considerations? Advice?
>
> Thanks
> Rob
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[Texascavers] Jewel Cave

[Gregg Williams via Texascavers]

Jewel Cave is now over 175 miles long and still going, amazing!

http://cavingnews.com/20150221-jewel-cave-surpasses-175-miles-in-length


Seen on http://www.reddit.com/r/caving/
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Re: [Texascavers] Devils River State Natural Area trip anouncement - November 8-9, 2014 :

[Gregg Williams via Texascavers]

Please put me on the list if there is still room

Gregg Williams
Bexar Grotto
210.601.9649

On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Nancy Weaver via Texascavers 
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 I’m interested.  Nancy nan...@prismnet.com
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