Re: [Texascavers] Government Canyon Karst Project
Sounds good.On May 18, 2016 7:19 AM, Amy Morton via Texascavers wrote: > > Hey Marvin, > > > I have 3 new grotto guys that want to come this weekend. I'm going to > forward this to them, if they call you, they're GHG (even if they don't know > it) > > > Amy Morton > > Bexar Grotto > > > From: Texascavers on behalf of Marvin > and Lisa via Texascavers > Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 1:40:30 AM > To: texascavers@texascavers.com > Subject: [Texascavers] Government Canyon Karst Project > > > Cavers, > > > > The date for the Government Canyon Karst Project for May has been changed to > the weekend of the 21st and 22nd. We will be surveying caves, digging on some > promising sinks, and ridgewalking. There are in-cave leads to be pursued as > well. This will be the last project weekend until October. > > > > We will meet at 9:00 in the morning at the Volunteer/Research Station (on the > porch or in the parking lot). To get there enter Government Canyon State > Natural Area at the main gate and then take the first right. (Don't go as far > as the pay kiosk). There will be a closed gate that you open with a code on > the keypad. The code is 1234. Follow that road for about a mile till it ends > in front of a building. The parking lot is to the right. > > > > Camping is available. Contact me to set it up. > > > > Marvin Miller > > > > (210) 415-5190 > > ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] October Government Canyon Karst Project
Cavers, The October trip for the Government Canyon Karst Project is scheduled for October 3 and 4. We will meet at 9:00 both mornings in the parking lot of the Volunteer/Research Station. Enter at the main gate and then take the first right. There will be a closed gate that you open, drive through, and then close behind you. Follow that road for about a mile till it ends in front of the VRS. The parking lot is to the right. Camping is available. Contact me to set it up. Marvin Miller (210) 415-5190 http://www.cavetexas.org/projects/gcsna.html ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] Government Canyon Karst Project
Cavers, The Government Canyon Karst Project will be starting up again on the first weekend in September, the 5th and 6th. Project dates will be the first weekend of every month unless otherwise notified. We will meet at 9:00 both mornings in the parking lot of the Volunteer/Research Station. Enter at the main park gate and then take the first right. Open and close the gate behind you and drive approximately 1 mile to the VRS. The parking lot is on the right. Camping is available in the volunteer campground. Contact me to set that up. The website for the project is here: http://www.cavetexas.org/projects/gcsna.html ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] Government Canyon Karst Project
Cavers, The Government Canyon Karst Project will be starting up again on the first weekend in September, the 5th and 6th. Project dates will be the first weekend of every month unless otherwise notified. We will meet at 9:00 both mornings in the parking lot of the Volunteer/Research Station. Enter at the main park gate and then take the first right. Open and close the gate behind you and drive approximately 1 mile to the VRS. The parking lot is on the right. Camping is available in the volunteer campground. Contact me to set that up. The website for the project is here: http://www.cavetexas.org/projects/gcsna.html Marvin Miller (210) 415-1590 ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: WONDERFUL STORY...
Fritz, If a "heartwarming" internet story like this sounds too sappy to be true then it probably is. I quick little fact check on a site like Snopes or truthorfiction would have told you that it is a work of fiction published in the 1970's and was never presented as fact. Share it with your friends if you like but please not to this list. Marvin Miller On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Fritz Holt via Texascavers < texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > Definitely not caving related, BUT, even better, it's about life and love. > You won't be sorry you read this. I confess, before I had finished I was > welling up and had tears in my eyes and bet you will also. > Fritz Holt > fritz...@gmail.com > > Sent from my iPhone > > Begin forwarded message: > > *From:* June Levy > *Date:* August 3, 2015 at 8:35:18 AM CDT > *To:* Fran Bruce , Vicki Thweatt , > Fritz Holt , Charles Miller > *Subject:* *Fwd: WONDERFUL STORY...* > > > > *Subject:* *Fwd: WONDERFUL STORY* > > > WONDERFUL STORY Please read > It is a true story. > ONE OF THE BEST STORIES I'VE EVER HEARD! > As she stood in front of her 5th grade class on the very first day of > school, she told the children an untruth. Like most teachers, she looked > at her students and said that she loved them all the same. However, that > was impossible, because there in the front row, slumped in his seat, was a > little boy named Teddy Stoddard. > > > Mrs. Thompson had watched Teddy the year before and noticed that he did > not play well with the other children, that his clothes were messy and that > he constantly needed a bath. In addition, Teddy could be unpleasant. It > got to the point where Mrs. Thompson would actually take delight in marking > his papers with a broad red pen, making bold X's and then putting a big 'F' > at the top of his papers. > > > At the school where Mrs. Thompson taught, she was required to review each > child's past records and she put Teddy's off until last. However, when she > reviewed his file, she was in for a surprise. Teddy's first grade teacher > wrote, 'Teddy is a bright child with a ready laugh. He does his work > neatly and has good manners...he is a joy to be around. > > His second grade teacher wrote, 'Teddy is an excellent student, well liked > by his classmates, but he is troubled because his mother has a terminal > illness and life at home must be a struggle.' > > > His third grade teacher wrote, 'His mother's death has been hard on him. > He tries to do his best, but his father doesn't show much interest, and > his home life will soon affect him if some steps aren't taken.' > > Teddy's fourth grade teacher wrote, 'Teddy is withdrawn and doesn't show > much interest in school. He doesn't have many friends and he sometimes > sleeps in class.' > > > By now, Mrs.Thompson realized the problem and she was ashamed of herself. > She felt even worse when her students brought her Christmas presents, > wrapped in beautiful ribbons and bright paper, except for Teddy's. His > present was clumsily wrapped in the heavy, brown paper that he got from a > grocery bag. Mrs. Thompson took pains to open it in the middle of the > other presents. Some of the children started to laugh when she found a > rhinestone bracelet with some of the stones missing, and a bottle that was > one-quarter full of perfume. But she stifled the children's laughter when > she exclaimed how pretty the bracelet was, putting it on, and dabbing some > of the perfume on her wrist. Teddy Stoddard stayed after school that day > just long enough to say, 'Mrs. Thompson, today you smelled just like my Mom > used to.' > > > After the children left, she cried for at least an hour. On that very > day, she quit teaching reading, writing and Arithmetic. Instead, she began > to teach children. Mrs. Thompson paid particular attention to Teddy. As > she worked with him, his mind seemed to come alive. The more she > encouraged him, the faster he responded. By the end of the year, Teddy had > become one of the smartest children in the class and, despite her lie that > she would love all the children the same, Teddy became one of her > 'teacher's pets..' > > A year later, she found a note under her door, from Teddy, telling her > that she was the best teacher he ever had in his whole life. > > Six years went by before she got another note from Teddy. He then wrote > that he had finished high school, third in his class, and she was still the > best teacher he ever had in life. > > Four years after that, she got another letter, saying that while things > had been tough at times, he'd stayed in school, had stuck with it, and > would soon graduate from college with the highest of honors. He assured > Mrs. Thompson that she was still the best and favorite teacher he had ever > had in his whole life. > > > Then four more years passed and yet another letter came. This time he > explained that after he got his bachelor's degree, he decided to go a > little further. The
[Texascavers] Government Canyon Karst Project
Cavers, The final project date of the season for the Government Canyon Karst Project will be on May 16 and 17. There are interesting digs to pursue and caves to survey and many caves waiting to be found. We will meet at 9:00 both mornings in the parking lot of the Volunteer/Research Station. To get there enter the park at the main gate. Take the first right and go through the unlocked gate, closing it behind you. Continue for about 1 mile to the VRS. A note of caution: Galm Rd. to the park entrance is under construction and the 30 mph speed limit is vigorously enforced. Camping is available. Contact me for details. Marvin Miller (210) 415-5190 ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] Government Canyon Karst Project
The next Government Canyon Karst Project will take place on April 4th, Saturday only, beginning at 9:00 as usual. We meet in the parking lot of the Volunteer/Research Station. Enter the park at the main gate and then take the first right. Go through the gate, close it behind you, and drive approximately 1 mile to the VRS. Turn right into the parking lot. Some possible projects: Working on a lead and surveying Lilyhammer Cave. Working on leads in Big Dome Cave. Surface digs. Ridgewalking. Helping Donny Roland find a spring cave that he lost years ago. Turquoise Sink reconnaissance. Camping is available. Contact me to set it up. Marvin Miller (210) 415 5190 ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] Government Canyon Karst Project
The February Government Canyon Karst Project is scheduled for next weekend, the 7th and 8th. We will meet at the Volunteer/Research Station at 9:00 on both mornings. Enter the park at the main gate and then take the first right. Open the gate and close it behind you. Continue on this road for about a mile to the VRS. The parking lot is to the right. Contact me for details. Marvin Miller (210) 415-5190 ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] November, December Government Canyon Karst Project Report
November/December Government Canyon Karst Project Report *November 2, 2014* *Participants: *Luciano Bejarano, DiAnne Dahl, Lisa Hilbrands, Hanz Larson, Nicholas Martinez, Leah Miller, Marvin Miller, Brandon Parker, Matthew Shippen, Richard Silver, Joedy Yglesias Joedy brought a large contingent of Navy personnel—all but myself, Leah, and Richard Silver—to the project this morning. Joedy was the only one with any caving experience. I made up two teams. I put Joedy in charge of Matthew, Hanz, and Nicholas at The Dig to keep digging out the part of this cave that is a pit open to the surface. There is a possibility of uncovering more passage as fill is removed. The team dug out about about 1 cubic meter of dirt and rock but didn’t uncover anything that could be entered. I took the rest of the participants to Area 20 to continue ridgewalking. We found and recorded two features that do not hold much promise of leading into a cave. We also came across Feature 20-58, which Joe Schaertl found on the October trip. This narrow slot has good airflow, drops approximately 3m to a visible floor, and only needs to be widened slightly to make it accessible. It almost certainly leads to a cave. *December 6 & 7, 2014* *Participants: *Luciano Bejarano, Matthew Conner, Tom Florer, Lisa Hilbrands, Leia Hill, Chris Lafferty, Nicholas Martinez, Christin Miller, Leah Miller, Lisa Miller, Marvin Miller, Jake Miranti, Greg Mosier, Michael O’Campo, Donny Roland, Joe Schaertl, Matthew Shippen, Richard Silver, Joedy Yglesias *December 6* We had 3 teams on Saturday. Solitude Pit Team: Chris Lafferty attended the project again after having been out of town for several months. On his last project trip on a rainy day in April we found Solitude Pit. I hadn’t had a good team to go back to explore the cave, which has a 9+ meter pit requiring vertical rope work. Chris was raring to go, of course, and I sent Tom Florer and Donny Roland with him. Chris descended the pit, which lies just 2m inside the cliff-side entrance, while Tom and Donny waited to hear what he found at the bottom. What Chris found immediately past the bottom of the pit was a downward sloping constriction. The cave could be seen to open up beyond. He experimented with the squeeze, got himself stuck, extricated himself, and decided not to take any more chances. He tried hammering on it a bit but soon gave up with the report that it would take more technical rock-shaving techniques to enlarge it. With this report Tom and Donny elected not to descend. Tom checked a crawl inside the entrance to the cave and found it got too small. Iron Horse Team: Greg Mosier led Leia Hill and Richard Silver to the Iron Horse tract, recently added to the SNA, to look at two caves that are located there on the Texas Speleological Survey (TSS) GIS database map. Horseshoe Cave No. 2 was recorded by SWCA and the unnamed cave was described to George Veni and the location is an estimate. At the location for Horseshoe Cave No. 2, which the TSS database does not have a description for, they found a .3m diameter solutioned hole that dropped .5m to a bedding plane void. The feature was not big enough to get into. In the TSS database, the unnamed cave is described as a 1-meter-high tunnel that extends for several hundred meters. The only thing that Greg’s team found that was in any way comparable was a solutioned passage close to stream level that was only a little over 3m long. It is quite probable that the given location of the cave is inaccurate, and it may not be on SNA property at all. We will probably do some more looking for this cave in the future. 20-58 Team: I took Lisa, Christin, and Leah Miller and Joe Schaertl to the feature that Joe’s team found on the October ridgewalking trip. A meter-long crack, .2m wide, drops down almost vertically and can be seen to penetrate a ceiling or enlarge in dimensions about a meter from the surface. A dirt floor is visible 3 meters below. Our goal was to use the "straws" rock shaving method to break up a large rock chocked in the entrance and then to enlarge the entrance and get into the cave. Our first charge broke up the rock. That was the only success we had, as after that the next two charges set to open up the entrance just blew out the plugs. Subsequent charges didn’t go off at all, apparently a lack of battery power. It was my first time trying this method of rock removal, but it has been successfully used by cavers in other areas and I am confident we will overcome the difficulties on the next trip and gain access to this cave. When we realized we weren’t going to get anywhere at 20-58, we headed due south approximately 400m to FC-25, a cave found by Zara in 2011. This cave had not yet been looked at by the project and it needed to be surveyed. We got to the GPS location and didn’t see a cave. We looked around a bit and couldn’t find anything. The girls decided to take a rest after the long bushwhack and Joe and I started casting about
[Texascavers] Government Canyon Karst Project
The next Government Canyon Karst Project weekend will be taking place on the 6th and 7th of December. There are caves to survey and many thousands of acres to ridgewalk. Government Canyon State Natural Area is located on the northwest side of San Antonio. Camping is available in the volunteer campground. Contact me for arrangements. We will meet on Saturday and Sunday mornings at 9:00 at the Volunteer/Research Station. After entering at the main gate, take the first right, go through the closed gate (shutting it behind you again), and proceed 1 mile to the VRS. The parking lot is on the left. Marvin Miller (210) 415-5190 ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] Where's it from?
Here's a Locklearian post: What ancient text is the following taken from? 1There is a mine for silver and a place where gold is refined. 2 Iron is taken from the earth, and copper is smelted from ore. 3 Mortals put an end to the darkness; they search out the farthest recesses for ore in the blackest darkness. 4 Far from human dwellings they cut a shaft, in places untouched by human feet; far from other people they dangle and sway. 5 The earth, from which food comes, is transformed below as by fire; 6 lapis lazuli comes from its rocks, and its dust contains nuggets of gold. 7 No bird of prey knows that hidden path, no falcon’s eye has seen it. 8 Proud beasts do not set foot on it, and no lion prowls there. 9 People assault the flinty rock with their hands and lay bare the roots of the mountains. 10 They tunnel through the rock; their eyes see all its treasures. 11 They search the sources of the rivers and bring hidden things to light. Marvin Miller ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] October Government Canyon Karst Project Report
October Government Canyon Karst Project Report *October 4, 2014* *Participants:* Bernadette Flehmer, Joe Schaertl, Casey Tucker The lone Saturday morning team was Joe, Casey, and Bernadette. It was Bernadette’s first time on the project. The team’s goal was to continue ridgewalking Area 20 in the NW corner of the SNA During the course of the day they found three features and a likely cave. The entrance to the approximately 3 m deep pit is 1 m x ½ m that narrows to just body-sized before belling out again. A rock is chocked in the narrow part and will need to be removed before the pit can be entered. Joe reported that a flow of air was coming from the entrance. *October 5, 2014* *Participants:* Crystal Martinez, Leah Miller, Marvin Miller, Tom Rogers, Casey Tucker Crystal, Leah, Tom, Casey, and I went to finish the survey of Big Dome Cave. This was Crystal’s first time on the project. I gave Tom a hammer, chisel, and crowbar and set him to work on a downward dig lead plugged with rocks at station A2. The crawl at A2 was also one of our survey objectives. First, however, we went to survey the small room at DD4 and check out the ceiling lead there. The ceiling lead went nowhere but at the top of the slope in the room a .4-m diameter hole dropped at least 2 m. Some rocks needed to be cleared from the top of the hole, so when Tom didn’t get anywhere with his first lead, I set him to this one. At the bottom he found continuing narrow fissure passage that, after a tight meter or two, opened into a standing room 3 m long by 1 m wide. There was nothing passable after that. The survey team tied the DD survey into the A survey and then surveyed 9.92 m from A2 to where the crawl got too tight. We also tied this survey into DD3 via the pass-through dug open by George, Lasha, and me on the previous trip. We ran out of time to survey the little bit of passage that Tom found. The survey length now stands at 357.81 m. This is the first trip to the cave that I didn’t feel good airflow. The next trip will be on Nov. 2, Sunday only. We meet at 9:00 in the parking lot of the Volunteer/Research Station. Enter the park at the main gate and then take the first right. Go through the unlocked gate and drive about a mile to the VRS. The parking lot is on the right. Camping is available. Contact me for more info. Marvin Miller (210) 415-5190 ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Deep Cave Survey - Sept 20
Joe, Christin won't be going either. I will be there Sat. morning. On Sep 14, 2014 8:29 PM, "Joe & Evelynn Mitchell via Texascavers" < texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > There are a few spots open still for next Saturday's Deep Cave survey > trip. If you are interested, please let me know as soon as possible. > > Thanks, > Joe Mitchell > 210-859-2105 > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] Government Canyon Karst Project
The Government Canyon Karst Project will be starting up again on the first weekend of October, the 4th and 5th. We have thousands of acres to ridgewalk, lots of promising sinks to dig on, and caves to survey. Government Canyon State Natural Area is located on the northwest side of San Antonio. Camping is available in the volunteer campground. Contact me for arrangements. We will meet on Saturday and Sunday mornings at 9:00 at the Volunteer/Research Station. After entering at the main gate, take the first right, go through the closed gate (shutting it behind you again), and proceed 1 mile to the VRS. The parking lot is on the left. Marvin Miller (210) 415-5190 ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Mailing List update and bounce information
I like to read Locklear. On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Don Cooper via Texascavers < texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > Thanks again for your help with the texas cavers remailer. > In the past, I put a filter into my gmail profile to automatically dump > all messages originated by David Locklear, > However - with recent changes to the system - he seems to have gotten > around it and - yeah, it's annoying to me that now I get these messages as > 'David through Texascavers'... > Tips? > -Don C > > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 12:53 PM, caverarch via Texascavers < > texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > >> I'm all with Jon in thanking you for your efforts, Charles! >> >> Roger Moore >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Jon Cradit via Texascavers >> To: Charles Goldsmith ; texascavers < >> texascavers@texascavers.com> >> Sent: Thu, Jul 31, 2014 11:10 am >> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Mailing List update and bounce information >> >> Charles, >> I think the work you do and amount of volunteer time you donate is great. >> I have no issue with these technical glitches that the computers feel >> they need to throw out at us humans from time to time. >> Many thanks for fighting them off, >> JC >> >> >> >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/cavetex >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> >> > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver
For the record - and I'm not mad at anyone; I think this is a good discussion - the Texas caving news appearing in the latest issue of the NSS News is in Buford Pruitt's "Underground Online" column. Buford's method - as I understand it - is trolling the chatter on various blogs, email lists, etc. across the nation and compiling the interesting bits in his column. That is how a Colorado Bend trip report, a Government Canyon trip report, and a report on the latest Deep Cave trip ended up in the NSS News. They were not sent to the News as an article to be published but were instead picked up by Buford off of this very email listserve. That's great. Cavers across the nation and the world need to see that Texas cavers go caving and do interesting things. I know that occasionally the three people who wrote those reports for Texascavers.com also compile the happenings in their respective projects in a bit more of a readable and concise fashion with pictures and maps and submit an article to the Texas Caver. That's also a great thing. If the editors of the Texas Caver want to pull things of the email list and publish it, more power to them. I'll continue to support the magazine and the TSS and news about caving in Texas wherever it appears. On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Heather Tucek via Texascavers < texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > As per request from a caver unnamed, I'm posting this here too. You know, > just in case I haven't already royally pissed you off yet. But you know > what? Worth it. > > > > The Texas Caver has just been sent off to the printer. This is the May > issue of the Texas Caver. Why is it almost August and the May issue is only > finally being printed? Why, it's because no Texas Cavers actually send in > trip reports to be published! We can't make a newsletter/magazine if > there's nothing to put in it. > > I know LOTS of you have gone on a number of Texas caving trips in the past > couple of months. I know LOTS of you went on plenty of AMAZING TAG trips > this month. Why is no one sending in articles? Jill spends an exorbitant > amount of her personal volunteer time making the layout, editing, adding > photos, etc. All the things needed to make the Texas Caver a great > publication. We won one award at the Publication Salon at the NSS > Convention. ONE. How many did other organizations win? You know why? > Because they actually have stuff to publish > > There's an article about Texas Caving in the most recent NSS News. Why? > Why isn't that article in the Texas Caver? Just because it goes in the > national magazine doesn't mean it can't also go in the local magazine. If > you're going to put one together for NSS, go ahead and copy Jill on your > email! (I've seen this a number of times, not just this month). > > Bottom line is, if you want to see your Texas Caver magazine in the mail > anymore, you need to man up, be a part of the answer instead of the > problem, and start sending in your trip reports and photos. If you don't > want to publish something because you think you can't write, have someone > copyedit it for you first. I'll be happy to go through and fix spelling and > grammatical errors, as long as you SEND SOMETHING IN!! > > > > > TL;DR > Start sending articles and photos to the Texas Caver or I will camp on > your front doorstep until you write something down. I know who you are. > > /end rant > > > -- > *Go find out!* > -Heather Tuček > UT Grotto, DFW Grotto > TSA Secretary & Membership Chair > NSS 59660 > (512) 773-1348 > trog...@cavechat.org > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/cavetex > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/cavetex http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers