[Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 2014]

2014-03-17 Thread Oztotl
You've waited for the announcement long enough. Here it is; the 2014 Texas 
Cavers Reunion will be held the second weekend of October in Spring Branch at 
the Guadalupe River RV Park. Actual Guadalupe River frontage camping! 

More information to come. Be sure to mark your calendars;
October 9-10-11-12, 2014


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[Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 36]

2013-08-25 Thread Oztotl
Greetings Hodags, troglidites, cavemen, cave women, speleophiles of all natures.

The 36th Annual Texas Caver's Reunion is around the bend. Paradise Canyon is 
ours from Thursday, October 17th through the 20th. The park has new improved 
grassy camping areas! Speleolympics, surveying, climbing, eating, soaking, 
wrestling, ice, kegs, parading T-shirts, music, sauna, tub, meetings, books, 
venders, costumes and prizes! BYOSA (bring your own social agenda). Cooking, 
cabins, camping, water sports & good ol' fashioned jaw-jacking, what's better 
than that?

Spread the word to your CAVER friends/support/family/pets.

Questions? Shoot me an email.

P.S.
TCR needs firewood, if you can help please contact me.
This is your shindig, if you want to help in any way, just ask!

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[Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 36]

2013-08-25 Thread Oztotl
Greetings Hodags, troglidites, cavemen, cave women, speleophiles of all natures.

The 36th Annual Texas Caver's Reunion is around the bend. Paradise Canyon is 
ours from Thursday, October 17th through the 20th. The park has new improved 
grassy camping areas! Speleolympics, surveying, climbing, eating, soaking, 
wrestling, ice, kegs, parading T-shirts, music, sauna, tub, meetings, books, 
venders, costumes and prizes! BYOSA (bring your own social agenda). Cooking, 
cabins, camping, water sports & good ol' fashioned jaw-jacking, what's better 
than that?

Spread the word to your CAVER friends/support/family/pets.

Questions? Shoot me an email.

P.S.
TCR needs firewood, if you can help please contact me.
This is your shindig, if you want to help in any way, just ask!

Sent cellularly.
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Re: [Texascavers] Interstate 69

2013-05-01 Thread Oztotl
Mark, please explain WHY these signs are stolen.


> From: mark.al...@l-3com.com
>> Date: May 1, 2013, 5:23:23 AM PDT
>> To: Gill Edigar , David 
>> Cc: Cavers Texas 
>> Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Interstate 69
>> 
>> How long until the signs start getting stolen?
>>  
>> Colorado had a highway with the same number going west out of Durango in the 
>> SW corner of the state in the early 2000’s.
>>  
>> Signs kept getting stolen.
>>  
>> Number change soon afterwards.
>>  
>> It’ll happen here, too. :}
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Mark
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gill 
>> Edigar
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 6:58 AM
>> To: David
>> Cc: Cavers Texas
>> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Interstate 69
>>  
>> It's supposed to go to the Rio Grande Valley, not Laredo--well, maybe a 
>> branch to Laredo. But the primary destination is supposed to be the Pharr 
>> Bridge. 
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:03 AM, David  wrote:
>> I was driving in northeast Houston today, ( which is an area of town a 
>> tourist should avoid ), and the old US Hwy 59, is now marked I-69 north of 
>> Loop 610, at least to the northern edge of Harris County.   
>>  
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_69
>>  
>> While this is currently totally irrelevant, east Texas cavers will someday ( 
>> in 10 years ? )
>> take I-69 to go caving in Arkansas, Indiana, or to Bustamante, N.L., Mexico.
>>  
>> The last time I was south of Houston on Hwy. 59, the signs still read 
>> "Future I-69"
>>  
>> I am not aware of any ongoing highway construction anywhere along this route.
>>  
>> I have not been to Laredo in a year, but I bet very soon, you will see 
>> signage or new roads
>> related to Interstate 69.
>>  
>> David Locklear
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Ref:
>>  
>> http://www.i69texasalliance.com/news.html
>>  


Re: [Texascavers] Interstate 69

2013-05-01 Thread Oztotl
Mark, please explain WHY these signs are stolen.


> From: mark.al...@l-3com.com
>> Date: May 1, 2013, 5:23:23 AM PDT
>> To: Gill Edigar , David 
>> Cc: Cavers Texas 
>> Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Interstate 69
>> 
>> How long until the signs start getting stolen?
>>  
>> Colorado had a highway with the same number going west out of Durango in the 
>> SW corner of the state in the early 2000’s.
>>  
>> Signs kept getting stolen.
>>  
>> Number change soon afterwards.
>>  
>> It’ll happen here, too. :}
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Mark
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gill 
>> Edigar
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 6:58 AM
>> To: David
>> Cc: Cavers Texas
>> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Interstate 69
>>  
>> It's supposed to go to the Rio Grande Valley, not Laredo--well, maybe a 
>> branch to Laredo. But the primary destination is supposed to be the Pharr 
>> Bridge. 
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:03 AM, David  wrote:
>> I was driving in northeast Houston today, ( which is an area of town a 
>> tourist should avoid ), and the old US Hwy 59, is now marked I-69 north of 
>> Loop 610, at least to the northern edge of Harris County.   
>>  
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_69
>>  
>> While this is currently totally irrelevant, east Texas cavers will someday ( 
>> in 10 years ? )
>> take I-69 to go caving in Arkansas, Indiana, or to Bustamante, N.L., Mexico.
>>  
>> The last time I was south of Houston on Hwy. 59, the signs still read 
>> "Future I-69"
>>  
>> I am not aware of any ongoing highway construction anywhere along this route.
>>  
>> I have not been to Laredo in a year, but I bet very soon, you will see 
>> signage or new roads
>> related to Interstate 69.
>>  
>> David Locklear
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Ref:
>>  
>> http://www.i69texasalliance.com/news.html
>>  


Re: [Texascavers] Interstate 69

2013-05-01 Thread Oztotl
Mark, please explain WHY these signs are stolen.


> From: mark.al...@l-3com.com
>> Date: May 1, 2013, 5:23:23 AM PDT
>> To: Gill Edigar , David 
>> Cc: Cavers Texas 
>> Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Interstate 69
>> 
>> How long until the signs start getting stolen?
>>  
>> Colorado had a highway with the same number going west out of Durango in the 
>> SW corner of the state in the early 2000’s.
>>  
>> Signs kept getting stolen.
>>  
>> Number change soon afterwards.
>>  
>> It’ll happen here, too. :}
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Mark
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gill 
>> Edigar
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 6:58 AM
>> To: David
>> Cc: Cavers Texas
>> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Interstate 69
>>  
>> It's supposed to go to the Rio Grande Valley, not Laredo--well, maybe a 
>> branch to Laredo. But the primary destination is supposed to be the Pharr 
>> Bridge. 
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:03 AM, David  wrote:
>> I was driving in northeast Houston today, ( which is an area of town a 
>> tourist should avoid ), and the old US Hwy 59, is now marked I-69 north of 
>> Loop 610, at least to the northern edge of Harris County.   
>>  
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_69
>>  
>> While this is currently totally irrelevant, east Texas cavers will someday ( 
>> in 10 years ? )
>> take I-69 to go caving in Arkansas, Indiana, or to Bustamante, N.L., Mexico.
>>  
>> The last time I was south of Houston on Hwy. 59, the signs still read 
>> "Future I-69"
>>  
>> I am not aware of any ongoing highway construction anywhere along this route.
>>  
>> I have not been to Laredo in a year, but I bet very soon, you will see 
>> signage or new roads
>> related to Interstate 69.
>>  
>> David Locklear
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Ref:
>>  
>> http://www.i69texasalliance.com/news.html
>>  


[Texascavers] Re: [THANKS FOR THE GOOD TIMES!]

2013-04-07 Thread Oztotl
And lovely Rachael! For assisting Crash!

Sent cellularly.
-Don

On Apr 7, 2013, at 4:30 PM, Oztotl  wrote:

> And Galen!
> 
> Sent cellularly.
> -Don
> 
> On Apr 7, 2013, at 4:25 PM, Oztotl  wrote:
> 
>> Thank you Shiner, Cave Without a Name, Tom Summers, Mike Burrell, Roger 
>> Moore, Mallory Mayeux, Heather Tuček, Jill Orr, Michael Cicherski, Lee Jay 
>> Graves, Gill Ediger, Ron Ralph, Allan Cobb, Ellie Watson, Mimi Jasek, James 
>> Jasek, Stefan Creaser, John Brooks, Wesley Schumacher, Gary Franklin, Jim 
>> Kennedy, Yaz Avila, Denise Prendergast, Vico Jones, RD Milholland, Saj 
>> Zappatello, Matts (all of you), Rebecca Jones, Ron Rutherford, Lyndon Tiu, 
>> all the food prep helpers, all of the speakers, all the auction item donors 
>> (you ROCK!), all the photographers and Kayla the Cartographer (don't 
>> complain, I didn't see your map there, duh, it's Spring Convention, one 
>> brings maps!) and a huge thanks for those I'm forgetting! Also thanks to the 
>> folks who left stuff in Lost-N-Found for next year's auction! (If you want 
>> to re-think your involuntary donation, see the TSA Facebook page for images 
>> of the items). 
>> 
>> Texas Speleological Association's Spring Convention couldn't have been as 
>> awesome without you!
>> 
>> Sent cellularly.
>> -Don

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[Texascavers] Re: [THANKS FOR THE GOOD TIMES!]

2013-04-07 Thread Oztotl
And lovely Rachael! For assisting Crash!

Sent cellularly.
-Don

On Apr 7, 2013, at 4:30 PM, Oztotl  wrote:

> And Galen!
> 
> Sent cellularly.
> -Don
> 
> On Apr 7, 2013, at 4:25 PM, Oztotl  wrote:
> 
>> Thank you Shiner, Cave Without a Name, Tom Summers, Mike Burrell, Roger 
>> Moore, Mallory Mayeux, Heather Tuček, Jill Orr, Michael Cicherski, Lee Jay 
>> Graves, Gill Ediger, Ron Ralph, Allan Cobb, Ellie Watson, Mimi Jasek, James 
>> Jasek, Stefan Creaser, John Brooks, Wesley Schumacher, Gary Franklin, Jim 
>> Kennedy, Yaz Avila, Denise Prendergast, Vico Jones, RD Milholland, Saj 
>> Zappatello, Matts (all of you), Rebecca Jones, Ron Rutherford, Lyndon Tiu, 
>> all the food prep helpers, all of the speakers, all the auction item donors 
>> (you ROCK!), all the photographers and Kayla the Cartographer (don't 
>> complain, I didn't see your map there, duh, it's Spring Convention, one 
>> brings maps!) and a huge thanks for those I'm forgetting! Also thanks to the 
>> folks who left stuff in Lost-N-Found for next year's auction! (If you want 
>> to re-think your involuntary donation, see the TSA Facebook page for images 
>> of the items). 
>> 
>> Texas Speleological Association's Spring Convention couldn't have been as 
>> awesome without you!
>> 
>> Sent cellularly.
>> -Don

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[Texascavers] Re: [THANKS FOR THE GOOD TIMES!]

2013-04-07 Thread Oztotl
And lovely Rachael! For assisting Crash!

Sent cellularly.
-Don

On Apr 7, 2013, at 4:30 PM, Oztotl  wrote:

> And Galen!
> 
> Sent cellularly.
> -Don
> 
> On Apr 7, 2013, at 4:25 PM, Oztotl  wrote:
> 
>> Thank you Shiner, Cave Without a Name, Tom Summers, Mike Burrell, Roger 
>> Moore, Mallory Mayeux, Heather Tuček, Jill Orr, Michael Cicherski, Lee Jay 
>> Graves, Gill Ediger, Ron Ralph, Allan Cobb, Ellie Watson, Mimi Jasek, James 
>> Jasek, Stefan Creaser, John Brooks, Wesley Schumacher, Gary Franklin, Jim 
>> Kennedy, Yaz Avila, Denise Prendergast, Vico Jones, RD Milholland, Saj 
>> Zappatello, Matts (all of you), Rebecca Jones, Ron Rutherford, Lyndon Tiu, 
>> all the food prep helpers, all of the speakers, all the auction item donors 
>> (you ROCK!), all the photographers and Kayla the Cartographer (don't 
>> complain, I didn't see your map there, duh, it's Spring Convention, one 
>> brings maps!) and a huge thanks for those I'm forgetting! Also thanks to the 
>> folks who left stuff in Lost-N-Found for next year's auction! (If you want 
>> to re-think your involuntary donation, see the TSA Facebook page for images 
>> of the items). 
>> 
>> Texas Speleological Association's Spring Convention couldn't have been as 
>> awesome without you!
>> 
>> Sent cellularly.
>> -Don

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[Texascavers] Re: [THANKS FOR THE GOOD TIMES!]

2013-04-07 Thread Oztotl
And Galen!

Sent cellularly.
-Don

On Apr 7, 2013, at 4:25 PM, Oztotl  wrote:

> Thank you Shiner, Cave Without a Name, Tom Summers, Mike Burrell, Roger 
> Moore, Mallory Mayeux, Heather Tuček, Jill Orr, Michael Cicherski, Lee Jay 
> Graves, Gill Ediger, Ron Ralph, Allan Cobb, Ellie Watson, Mimi Jasek, James 
> Jasek, Stefan Creaser, John Brooks, Wesley Schumacher, Gary Franklin, Jim 
> Kennedy, Yaz Avila, Denise Prendergast, Vico Jones, RD Milholland, Saj 
> Zappatello, Matts (all of you), Rebecca Jones, Ron Rutherford, Lyndon Tiu, 
> all the food prep helpers, all of the speakers, all the auction item donors 
> (you ROCK!), all the photographers and Kayla the Cartographer (don't 
> complain, I didn't see your map there, duh, it's Spring Convention, one 
> brings maps!) and a huge thanks for those I'm forgetting! Also thanks to the 
> folks who left stuff in Lost-N-Found for next year's auction! (If you want to 
> re-think your involuntary donation, see the TSA Facebook page for images of 
> the items). 
> 
> Texas Speleological Association's Spring Convention couldn't have been as 
> awesome without you!
> 
> Sent cellularly.
> -Don

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[Texascavers] Re: [THANKS FOR THE GOOD TIMES!]

2013-04-07 Thread Oztotl
And Galen!

Sent cellularly.
-Don

On Apr 7, 2013, at 4:25 PM, Oztotl  wrote:

> Thank you Shiner, Cave Without a Name, Tom Summers, Mike Burrell, Roger 
> Moore, Mallory Mayeux, Heather Tuček, Jill Orr, Michael Cicherski, Lee Jay 
> Graves, Gill Ediger, Ron Ralph, Allan Cobb, Ellie Watson, Mimi Jasek, James 
> Jasek, Stefan Creaser, John Brooks, Wesley Schumacher, Gary Franklin, Jim 
> Kennedy, Yaz Avila, Denise Prendergast, Vico Jones, RD Milholland, Saj 
> Zappatello, Matts (all of you), Rebecca Jones, Ron Rutherford, Lyndon Tiu, 
> all the food prep helpers, all of the speakers, all the auction item donors 
> (you ROCK!), all the photographers and Kayla the Cartographer (don't 
> complain, I didn't see your map there, duh, it's Spring Convention, one 
> brings maps!) and a huge thanks for those I'm forgetting! Also thanks to the 
> folks who left stuff in Lost-N-Found for next year's auction! (If you want to 
> re-think your involuntary donation, see the TSA Facebook page for images of 
> the items). 
> 
> Texas Speleological Association's Spring Convention couldn't have been as 
> awesome without you!
> 
> Sent cellularly.
> -Don

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[Texascavers] Re: [THANKS FOR THE GOOD TIMES!]

2013-04-07 Thread Oztotl
And Galen!

Sent cellularly.
-Don

On Apr 7, 2013, at 4:25 PM, Oztotl  wrote:

> Thank you Shiner, Cave Without a Name, Tom Summers, Mike Burrell, Roger 
> Moore, Mallory Mayeux, Heather Tuček, Jill Orr, Michael Cicherski, Lee Jay 
> Graves, Gill Ediger, Ron Ralph, Allan Cobb, Ellie Watson, Mimi Jasek, James 
> Jasek, Stefan Creaser, John Brooks, Wesley Schumacher, Gary Franklin, Jim 
> Kennedy, Yaz Avila, Denise Prendergast, Vico Jones, RD Milholland, Saj 
> Zappatello, Matts (all of you), Rebecca Jones, Ron Rutherford, Lyndon Tiu, 
> all the food prep helpers, all of the speakers, all the auction item donors 
> (you ROCK!), all the photographers and Kayla the Cartographer (don't 
> complain, I didn't see your map there, duh, it's Spring Convention, one 
> brings maps!) and a huge thanks for those I'm forgetting! Also thanks to the 
> folks who left stuff in Lost-N-Found for next year's auction! (If you want to 
> re-think your involuntary donation, see the TSA Facebook page for images of 
> the items). 
> 
> Texas Speleological Association's Spring Convention couldn't have been as 
> awesome without you!
> 
> Sent cellularly.
> -Don

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[Texascavers] [THANKS FOR THE GOOD TIMES!]

2013-04-07 Thread Oztotl
Thank you Shiner, Cave Without a Name, Tom Summers, Mike Burrell, Roger Moore, 
Mallory Mayeux, Heather Tuček, Jill Orr, Michael Cicherski, Lee Jay Graves, 
Gill Ediger, Ron Ralph, Allan Cobb, Ellie Watson, Mimi Jasek, James Jasek, 
Stefan Creaser, John Brooks, Wesley Schumacher, Gary Franklin, Jim Kennedy, Yaz 
Avila, Denise Prendergast, Vico Jones, RD Milholland, Saj Zappatello, Matts 
(all of you), Rebecca Jones, Ron Rutherford, Lyndon Tiu, all the food prep 
helpers, all of the speakers, all the auction item donors (you ROCK!), all the 
photographers and Kayla the Cartographer (don't complain, I didn't see your map 
there, duh, it's Spring Convention, one brings maps!) and a huge thanks for 
those I'm forgetting! Also thanks to the folks who left stuff in Lost-N-Found 
for next year's auction! (If you want to re-think your involuntary donation, 
see the TSA Facebook page for images of the items). 

Texas Speleological Association's Spring Convention couldn't have been as 
awesome without you!

Sent cellularly.
-Don
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[Texascavers] [THANKS FOR THE GOOD TIMES!]

2013-04-07 Thread Oztotl
Thank you Shiner, Cave Without a Name, Tom Summers, Mike Burrell, Roger Moore, 
Mallory Mayeux, Heather Tuček, Jill Orr, Michael Cicherski, Lee Jay Graves, 
Gill Ediger, Ron Ralph, Allan Cobb, Ellie Watson, Mimi Jasek, James Jasek, 
Stefan Creaser, John Brooks, Wesley Schumacher, Gary Franklin, Jim Kennedy, Yaz 
Avila, Denise Prendergast, Vico Jones, RD Milholland, Saj Zappatello, Matts 
(all of you), Rebecca Jones, Ron Rutherford, Lyndon Tiu, all the food prep 
helpers, all of the speakers, all the auction item donors (you ROCK!), all the 
photographers and Kayla the Cartographer (don't complain, I didn't see your map 
there, duh, it's Spring Convention, one brings maps!) and a huge thanks for 
those I'm forgetting! Also thanks to the folks who left stuff in Lost-N-Found 
for next year's auction! (If you want to re-think your involuntary donation, 
see the TSA Facebook page for images of the items). 

Texas Speleological Association's Spring Convention couldn't have been as 
awesome without you!

Sent cellularly.
-Don
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[Texascavers] [THANKS FOR THE GOOD TIMES!]

2013-04-07 Thread Oztotl
Thank you Shiner, Cave Without a Name, Tom Summers, Mike Burrell, Roger Moore, 
Mallory Mayeux, Heather Tuček, Jill Orr, Michael Cicherski, Lee Jay Graves, 
Gill Ediger, Ron Ralph, Allan Cobb, Ellie Watson, Mimi Jasek, James Jasek, 
Stefan Creaser, John Brooks, Wesley Schumacher, Gary Franklin, Jim Kennedy, Yaz 
Avila, Denise Prendergast, Vico Jones, RD Milholland, Saj Zappatello, Matts 
(all of you), Rebecca Jones, Ron Rutherford, Lyndon Tiu, all the food prep 
helpers, all of the speakers, all the auction item donors (you ROCK!), all the 
photographers and Kayla the Cartographer (don't complain, I didn't see your map 
there, duh, it's Spring Convention, one brings maps!) and a huge thanks for 
those I'm forgetting! Also thanks to the folks who left stuff in Lost-N-Found 
for next year's auction! (If you want to re-think your involuntary donation, 
see the TSA Facebook page for images of the items). 

Texas Speleological Association's Spring Convention couldn't have been as 
awesome without you!

Sent cellularly.
-Don
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[Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention

2013-04-05 Thread Oztotl
BRING YOUR OWN DRINKING WATER


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[Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention

2013-04-05 Thread Oztotl
BRING YOUR OWN DRINKING WATER


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[Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention

2013-04-05 Thread Oztotl
BRING YOUR OWN DRINKING WATER


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2013-04-04 Thread Oztotl
Weekend of April 19-20-21 for Trinity University Rec Group. Contact me please!

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Weekend of April 19-20-21 for Trinity University Rec Group. Contact me please!

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Weekend of April 19-20-21 for Trinity University Rec Group. Contact me please!

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[Texascavers] Reminder of TSA Meeting Sunday morning at Spring Convention

2013-04-04 Thread Oztotl
In case I didn't already announce the TSA Meeting will take place Sunday 
morning at Spring Convention.

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[Texascavers] Reminder of TSA Meeting Sunday morning at Spring Convention

2013-04-04 Thread Oztotl
In case I didn't already announce the TSA Meeting will take place Sunday 
morning at Spring Convention.

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[Texascavers] Reminder of TSA Meeting Sunday morning at Spring Convention

2013-04-04 Thread Oztotl
In case I didn't already announce the TSA Meeting will take place Sunday 
morning at Spring Convention.

Sent cellularly.
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Re: [Texascavers] Estimate of stalactite growth (Merkel et al. 2008)

2013-03-12 Thread Oztotl
>> Don't forget those vessels completely encompassed by formations to the point 
>> they were really no longer visible in the column, except where looters 
>> hammered away to expose them. 
>> 
>> Sent cellularly.
>> -Don
>> 
>> On Mar 12, 2013, at 2:25 PM, "Allan B. Cobb"  wrote:
>> 
>>> In Guatemala, I have seen calcite almost completely covering flagging tape 
>>> that we left surveying the year before. I have seen stalagmites about 50 cm 
>>> tall growing out of Maya vessels that are a little more than a thousand 
>>> years old. I have seen photos of one almost a meter high growing out of a 
>>> 1000 year old Maya  vessel. The growth rate of speleothems is highly 
>>> variable.
>>>  
>>> Allan
>>>  
>>> From: Neal Hines
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 11:33 AM
>>> To: nealahi...@gmail.com
>>> Cc: Texas Cavers
>>> Subject: [Texascavers] Estimate of stalactite growth (Merkel et al. 2008)
>>>  
>>> This morning I read a geochemistry text on carbonate mineralization that 
>>> gave an example of how much stalactites might grow in one year: 0.19 
>>> mm/year. It's a recent book (Merkel et al. Groundwater Geochemistry 2008).
>>> Assumptions: partial pressure CO2 of 3% (charged up from soils) degassing 
>>> to 0.03% (by volume; atmospheric level), 100L of water dripping from the 
>>> ceiling, and the ceiling covered by 15% stalactites.
>>> Cavers all know this growth varies by quite a bit, but this might serve as 
>>> a rough upper end growth rate. So, within a caver's life of 70 years, you 
>>> could see a formation grow by over 1 cm! Lending truth to the observation 
>>> I've heard of some cavers that, "this passage has shifted since I was here 
>>> last." Sodastraws can grow even faster I believe & I'm sure people will 
>>> have  opinions on that.
>>> Also, thanks to Ron Green for doing the webinar on Geophysics in karst 
>>> landscapes last night. I caught only the tail end, but there were tons of 
>>> questions and very interested participants.
>>> -Neal Hines
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  


Re: [Texascavers] Estimate of stalactite growth (Merkel et al. 2008)

2013-03-12 Thread Oztotl
>> Don't forget those vessels completely encompassed by formations to the point 
>> they were really no longer visible in the column, except where looters 
>> hammered away to expose them. 
>> 
>> Sent cellularly.
>> -Don
>> 
>> On Mar 12, 2013, at 2:25 PM, "Allan B. Cobb"  wrote:
>> 
>>> In Guatemala, I have seen calcite almost completely covering flagging tape 
>>> that we left surveying the year before. I have seen stalagmites about 50 cm 
>>> tall growing out of Maya vessels that are a little more than a thousand 
>>> years old. I have seen photos of one almost a meter high growing out of a 
>>> 1000 year old Maya  vessel. The growth rate of speleothems is highly 
>>> variable.
>>>  
>>> Allan
>>>  
>>> From: Neal Hines
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 11:33 AM
>>> To: nealahi...@gmail.com
>>> Cc: Texas Cavers
>>> Subject: [Texascavers] Estimate of stalactite growth (Merkel et al. 2008)
>>>  
>>> This morning I read a geochemistry text on carbonate mineralization that 
>>> gave an example of how much stalactites might grow in one year: 0.19 
>>> mm/year. It's a recent book (Merkel et al. Groundwater Geochemistry 2008).
>>> Assumptions: partial pressure CO2 of 3% (charged up from soils) degassing 
>>> to 0.03% (by volume; atmospheric level), 100L of water dripping from the 
>>> ceiling, and the ceiling covered by 15% stalactites.
>>> Cavers all know this growth varies by quite a bit, but this might serve as 
>>> a rough upper end growth rate. So, within a caver's life of 70 years, you 
>>> could see a formation grow by over 1 cm! Lending truth to the observation 
>>> I've heard of some cavers that, "this passage has shifted since I was here 
>>> last." Sodastraws can grow even faster I believe & I'm sure people will 
>>> have  opinions on that.
>>> Also, thanks to Ron Green for doing the webinar on Geophysics in karst 
>>> landscapes last night. I caught only the tail end, but there were tons of 
>>> questions and very interested participants.
>>> -Neal Hines
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  


Re: [Texascavers] Estimate of stalactite growth (Merkel et al. 2008)

2013-03-12 Thread Oztotl
>> Don't forget those vessels completely encompassed by formations to the point 
>> they were really no longer visible in the column, except where looters 
>> hammered away to expose them. 
>> 
>> Sent cellularly.
>> -Don
>> 
>> On Mar 12, 2013, at 2:25 PM, "Allan B. Cobb"  wrote:
>> 
>>> In Guatemala, I have seen calcite almost completely covering flagging tape 
>>> that we left surveying the year before. I have seen stalagmites about 50 cm 
>>> tall growing out of Maya vessels that are a little more than a thousand 
>>> years old. I have seen photos of one almost a meter high growing out of a 
>>> 1000 year old Maya  vessel. The growth rate of speleothems is highly 
>>> variable.
>>>  
>>> Allan
>>>  
>>> From: Neal Hines
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 11:33 AM
>>> To: nealahi...@gmail.com
>>> Cc: Texas Cavers
>>> Subject: [Texascavers] Estimate of stalactite growth (Merkel et al. 2008)
>>>  
>>> This morning I read a geochemistry text on carbonate mineralization that 
>>> gave an example of how much stalactites might grow in one year: 0.19 
>>> mm/year. It's a recent book (Merkel et al. Groundwater Geochemistry 2008).
>>> Assumptions: partial pressure CO2 of 3% (charged up from soils) degassing 
>>> to 0.03% (by volume; atmospheric level), 100L of water dripping from the 
>>> ceiling, and the ceiling covered by 15% stalactites.
>>> Cavers all know this growth varies by quite a bit, but this might serve as 
>>> a rough upper end growth rate. So, within a caver's life of 70 years, you 
>>> could see a formation grow by over 1 cm! Lending truth to the observation 
>>> I've heard of some cavers that, "this passage has shifted since I was here 
>>> last." Sodastraws can grow even faster I believe & I'm sure people will 
>>> have  opinions on that.
>>> Also, thanks to Ron Green for doing the webinar on Geophysics in karst 
>>> landscapes last night. I caught only the tail end, but there were tons of 
>>> questions and very interested participants.
>>> -Neal Hines
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  


[Texascavers] [Spring Convention Meeting of TSA]

2013-03-10 Thread Oztotl
Please send agenda items to me soon. Also, PLEASE ATTEND. Who knows what I 
could do to the TSA unsupervised.

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[Texascavers] [Spring Convention Meeting of TSA]

2013-03-10 Thread Oztotl
Please send agenda items to me soon. Also, PLEASE ATTEND. Who knows what I 
could do to the TSA unsupervised.

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[Texascavers] [Spring Convention Meeting of TSA]

2013-03-10 Thread Oztotl
Please send agenda items to me soon. Also, PLEASE ATTEND. Who knows what I 
could do to the TSA unsupervised.

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[Texascavers] [Floor Painting @ D&P Next Weekend]

2013-03-10 Thread Oztotl
Free caving for participants!!
I'm buying the two part epoxy paint tomorrow. I'll need some help to remove 
furniture, paint, and return furniture. Of course, this means camping only. I'd 
appreciate any help I can get! 

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[Texascavers] [Floor Painting @ D&P Next Weekend]

2013-03-10 Thread Oztotl
Free caving for participants!!
I'm buying the two part epoxy paint tomorrow. I'll need some help to remove 
furniture, paint, and return furniture. Of course, this means camping only. I'd 
appreciate any help I can get! 

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[Texascavers] [Floor Painting @ D&P Next Weekend]

2013-03-10 Thread Oztotl
Free caving for participants!!
I'm buying the two part epoxy paint tomorrow. I'll need some help to remove 
furniture, paint, and return furniture. Of course, this means camping only. I'd 
appreciate any help I can get! 

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[Texascavers] TSA Winter Business Meeting

2013-01-03 Thread Oztotl
At Colorado Bend State Park January 12 at the visitors center. Be there or be 
square! It'll probably get started early around 8 a.m.
Contact me for more info.

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[Texascavers] TSA Winter Business Meeting

2013-01-03 Thread Oztotl
At Colorado Bend State Park January 12 at the visitors center. Be there or be 
square! It'll probably get started early around 8 a.m.
Contact me for more info.

Sent cellularly.
-Don

[Texascavers] TSA Winter Business Meeting

2013-01-03 Thread Oztotl
At Colorado Bend State Park January 12 at the visitors center. Be there or be 
square! It'll probably get started early around 8 a.m.
Contact me for more info.

Sent cellularly.
-Don

Re: [Texascavers] Re: texascavers Digest 31 Oct 2012 16:47:37 -0000 Issue 1657

2012-11-04 Thread Oztotl
Sheeit, it's only 200+ miles to my own Deep & Punkin Caves Nature Preserve from 
my home. And merely 580 miles on one single road to visit my step-daughter, one 
way.

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On Nov 4, 2012, at 11:26 AM, James Jasek  wrote:

> Check out Fort Stockton to Van Horn, Texas  118+ miles  
> 
> 
> On Nov 4, 2012, at 10:41 AM, Mike Flannigan wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Ah - the western states.  Where the concept of
>> distance has a whole different perspective.  If
>> somebody from NV tells you something is a pretty
>> good trek, you better listen.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Straight-line distances from Ely:
>> 
>> Ely to Baker Creek System - 39+ miles
>> 
>> Ely to Whipple Cave - 51+ miles
>> 
>> Ely to Leviathan Cave - 105+ miles
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Mike

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Re: [Texascavers] Re: texascavers Digest 31 Oct 2012 16:47:37 -0000 Issue 1657

2012-11-04 Thread Oztotl
Sheeit, it's only 200+ miles to my own Deep & Punkin Caves Nature Preserve from 
my home. And merely 580 miles on one single road to visit my step-daughter, one 
way.

Sent cellularly.
-Don

On Nov 4, 2012, at 11:26 AM, James Jasek  wrote:

> Check out Fort Stockton to Van Horn, Texas  118+ miles  
> 
> 
> On Nov 4, 2012, at 10:41 AM, Mike Flannigan wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Ah - the western states.  Where the concept of
>> distance has a whole different perspective.  If
>> somebody from NV tells you something is a pretty
>> good trek, you better listen.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Straight-line distances from Ely:
>> 
>> Ely to Baker Creek System - 39+ miles
>> 
>> Ely to Whipple Cave - 51+ miles
>> 
>> Ely to Leviathan Cave - 105+ miles
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Mike

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Re: [Texascavers] Re: texascavers Digest 31 Oct 2012 16:47:37 -0000 Issue 1657

2012-11-04 Thread Oztotl
Sheeit, it's only 200+ miles to my own Deep & Punkin Caves Nature Preserve from 
my home. And merely 580 miles on one single road to visit my step-daughter, one 
way.

Sent cellularly.
-Don

On Nov 4, 2012, at 11:26 AM, James Jasek  wrote:

> Check out Fort Stockton to Van Horn, Texas  118+ miles  
> 
> 
> On Nov 4, 2012, at 10:41 AM, Mike Flannigan wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Ah - the western states.  Where the concept of
>> distance has a whole different perspective.  If
>> somebody from NV tells you something is a pretty
>> good trek, you better listen.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Straight-line distances from Ely:
>> 
>> Ely to Baker Creek System - 39+ miles
>> 
>> Ely to Whipple Cave - 51+ miles
>> 
>> Ely to Leviathan Cave - 105+ miles
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Mike

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[Texascavers] [Correction]Congratulations Redux

2012-10-22 Thread Oztotl
Congratulations to Heather Túček for being elected Texas Speleological 
Association's Secretary and Roger Moore as our new Vice-Chair. I remain Chair 
and Michael Cicherski, Treasurer. Three things; thank you for stepping up, you 
both have big shoes to fill, and a hearty "welcome aboard"!

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[Texascavers] [Correction]Congratulations Redux

2012-10-22 Thread Oztotl
Congratulations to Heather Túček for being elected Texas Speleological 
Association's Secretary and Roger Moore as our new Vice-Chair. I remain Chair 
and Michael Cicherski, Treasurer. Three things; thank you for stepping up, you 
both have big shoes to fill, and a hearty "welcome aboard"!

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[Texascavers] [Correction]Congratulations Redux

2012-10-22 Thread Oztotl
Congratulations to Heather Túček for being elected Texas Speleological 
Association's Secretary and Roger Moore as our new Vice-Chair. I remain Chair 
and Michael Cicherski, Treasurer. Three things; thank you for stepping up, you 
both have big shoes to fill, and a hearty "welcome aboard"!

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[Texascavers] TCR 2012

2012-10-22 Thread Oztotl
So far, those pesky Maya were wrong, the world didn't end this weekend. In 
fact, there was a coming together, a reunion, instead. The annual gathering of 
Cavers was joyous and productive, for me anyway. And in a way it's not over, 
there are lost item, more reunions to be. Contact me to inquire.

Cavers, you made it happen, more than three hundred and fifty of you. I merely 
answered a few questions and pointed fingers. Thank you for a great, 
unforgettable weekend! The memories will last a lifetime! I hope you had a good 
time and if you did, please thank yourself and especially these people: our 
spouses & our friends, specifically; Allan Cobb, Ellie Watson, Galen Falgout, 
Ann Scott, Linda Palit, Michael Cicherski, Ron Ralph, Stefan Creaser, Susan 
Souby, Colin & Peter Strickland, Kitty & Kurt, Bill Steele, Amy Beverage, Bev 
Shade, David Ochel, Lydia Hernandez, Denise Prendergrast, Jocie Hooper, Bill 
Stephens, Tommy Joe, Leslie Bell, Vico Jones, RD Milholland, Kyle Leonard, and 
to the many volunteers and good  people, whose personage I have may 
unfortunately  forgot today, who made this wonderful happening!

Thanks to Whole Earth Provision Company, Shiner Brewing, GGG, TSS, TSA, Mercy 
Beads & Jonathan Wilson, for prizes and certificates and, I believe, our first 
ever bouncy castle. There were others, you know who you are, thank you.

Chris Vreeland, thanks for immortalizing the camaraderie. Crash, thanks for 
mastering the ceremony and Angela Edwards for sharing the gifts.

Kyle Leonard, thanks for bringing your Aggies, we needed the help, and they 
came through!

Wesley Schumacher, good job with the wholesome earthy competition.

Thanks, Bexar Grotto for bringing some class and entertaining guests!

TCMA, thanks for starting our day-after-the-apocalypse-morning off with 
caffeine and sustenance on Sunday.

And a thanks to Paul Dixon at Paradise Canyon for being a gracious host and 
sharing his cool waters, green grass and shady canyon.

-Don

[Texascavers] TCR 2012

2012-10-22 Thread Oztotl
So far, those pesky Maya were wrong, the world didn't end this weekend. In 
fact, there was a coming together, a reunion, instead. The annual gathering of 
Cavers was joyous and productive, for me anyway. And in a way it's not over, 
there are lost item, more reunions to be. Contact me to inquire.

Cavers, you made it happen, more than three hundred and fifty of you. I merely 
answered a few questions and pointed fingers. Thank you for a great, 
unforgettable weekend! The memories will last a lifetime! I hope you had a good 
time and if you did, please thank yourself and especially these people: our 
spouses & our friends, specifically; Allan Cobb, Ellie Watson, Galen Falgout, 
Ann Scott, Linda Palit, Michael Cicherski, Ron Ralph, Stefan Creaser, Susan 
Souby, Colin & Peter Strickland, Kitty & Kurt, Bill Steele, Amy Beverage, Bev 
Shade, David Ochel, Lydia Hernandez, Denise Prendergrast, Jocie Hooper, Bill 
Stephens, Tommy Joe, Leslie Bell, Vico Jones, RD Milholland, Kyle Leonard, and 
to the many volunteers and good  people, whose personage I have may 
unfortunately  forgot today, who made this wonderful happening!

Thanks to Whole Earth Provision Company, Shiner Brewing, GGG, TSS, TSA, Mercy 
Beads & Jonathan Wilson, for prizes and certificates and, I believe, our first 
ever bouncy castle. There were others, you know who you are, thank you.

Chris Vreeland, thanks for immortalizing the camaraderie. Crash, thanks for 
mastering the ceremony and Angela Edwards for sharing the gifts.

Kyle Leonard, thanks for bringing your Aggies, we needed the help, and they 
came through!

Wesley Schumacher, good job with the wholesome earthy competition.

Thanks, Bexar Grotto for bringing some class and entertaining guests!

TCMA, thanks for starting our day-after-the-apocalypse-morning off with 
caffeine and sustenance on Sunday.

And a thanks to Paul Dixon at Paradise Canyon for being a gracious host and 
sharing his cool waters, green grass and shady canyon.

-Don

[Texascavers] TCR 2012

2012-10-22 Thread Oztotl
So far, those pesky Maya were wrong, the world didn't end this weekend. In 
fact, there was a coming together, a reunion, instead. The annual gathering of 
Cavers was joyous and productive, for me anyway. And in a way it's not over, 
there are lost item, more reunions to be. Contact me to inquire.

Cavers, you made it happen, more than three hundred and fifty of you. I merely 
answered a few questions and pointed fingers. Thank you for a great, 
unforgettable weekend! The memories will last a lifetime! I hope you had a good 
time and if you did, please thank yourself and especially these people: our 
spouses & our friends, specifically; Allan Cobb, Ellie Watson, Galen Falgout, 
Ann Scott, Linda Palit, Michael Cicherski, Ron Ralph, Stefan Creaser, Susan 
Souby, Colin & Peter Strickland, Kitty & Kurt, Bill Steele, Amy Beverage, Bev 
Shade, David Ochel, Lydia Hernandez, Denise Prendergrast, Jocie Hooper, Bill 
Stephens, Tommy Joe, Leslie Bell, Vico Jones, RD Milholland, Kyle Leonard, and 
to the many volunteers and good  people, whose personage I have may 
unfortunately  forgot today, who made this wonderful happening!

Thanks to Whole Earth Provision Company, Shiner Brewing, GGG, TSS, TSA, Mercy 
Beads & Jonathan Wilson, for prizes and certificates and, I believe, our first 
ever bouncy castle. There were others, you know who you are, thank you.

Chris Vreeland, thanks for immortalizing the camaraderie. Crash, thanks for 
mastering the ceremony and Angela Edwards for sharing the gifts.

Kyle Leonard, thanks for bringing your Aggies, we needed the help, and they 
came through!

Wesley Schumacher, good job with the wholesome earthy competition.

Thanks, Bexar Grotto for bringing some class and entertaining guests!

TCMA, thanks for starting our day-after-the-apocalypse-morning off with 
caffeine and sustenance on Sunday.

And a thanks to Paul Dixon at Paradise Canyon for being a gracious host and 
sharing his cool waters, green grass and shady canyon.

-Don

[Texascavers] Has anyone seen the TCMA tables?

2012-10-17 Thread Oztotl
Last seen at Robber Baron Open House, white plastic, with "TCMA" written on 
them?

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2012-10-17 Thread Oztotl
Last seen at Robber Baron Open House, white plastic, with "TCMA" written on 
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2012-10-17 Thread Oztotl
Last seen at Robber Baron Open House, white plastic, with "TCMA" written on 
them?

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[Texascavers] 35th Annual Texas Cavers Reunion Redux

2012-10-11 Thread Oztotl
Cavers!! One week left! For what, you might ask? Texas Cavers Reunion, that's 
what! When? One week from today, Thursday, October 18 to Sunday, October 21. 
Where? Paradise Canyon campground: http://www.paradisecanyon.com/images/map.pdf

If you are a caver, caver relative, caver friend or supporter, caver wannabe or 
caver spouse please attend. If you are not, please don't crash our party, you 
know who you are. Sasquatch will be looking for you and he hasn't fed recently.

Registration will begin Friday at 5 p.m. until there is a lull in registrants. 
It will begin again Saturday at 8 a.m. until very late. Vendors will be 
available all day Saturday and early Sunday morning hawking their wares. 
Registration gets you a wristband, meal, beverages and a chance at door prizes. 
The "Big Feed" will happen Saturday evening followed by awards. Bring your own 
plate, cup and feed tools to get the food from your plate to your food hole.

There won't be a live band this year (sorry, long story). Musical instruments 
are ok, however not at the hot tub. Cameras aren't allowed at the hot tub 
either. That end of the park is a quiet zone and it will be enforced.

If you we're counting on the Friday Bexar Grotto fish fry, they have opted out 
this year. Bring your own food or mooch off a neighbor. Perhaps another grotto 
is interested in raising funds by feeding folks instead. Sunday morning, some 
wonderful intrepid individuals will be making breakfast to raise funds for the 
Texas Cave Management Association.

Rumor has it there will be a nice hoity-toity pinky raised wine tasting Friday 
evening. A great chance to share your swanky wine find with good company and 
friends. Black tie optional. There is another rumor that there will be a bouncy 
house for those not old enough to drink yet still want the same woozy effects.

The Texas Speleological Association is having a meeting and election at 8 a.m. 
Come prepared to elect a new generation of servants Sunday morning. Also the 
TCMA is having a members meeting following the TSA meeting.

There are showers, some of us will stink before too long, take advantage of 
these facilities please. Sasquatch may confuse the smell with mating pheromones 
and that could be bad, unless you are into that. I don't wanna know. If you 
hear a massive throaty squeal, run for the showers!

There will be a parade and costume contest. Think "Maya Apocolypse 2012". Be 
creative! That said, this is a family event, please keep your nudity under 
control, I know, I know, but it'll be during daylight hours and some little 
ones may be present. If you must get out your nude fix, visit me behind the 
shed I will be happy to gawk.

Children and dogs. Both are welcome! They must be well behaved; no biting, 
fighting, constant screaming or barking. Pooping on the ground isn't 
encouraged, but if they must, please clean up after them. No mange or rabies or 
Ebola. Drooling is perfectly acceptable and I expect it. If there are 
complaints, Sasquatch will will be hungry.

If you have suggestions on how things could be better, feel free to implement 
these ideas (of course please consult me first). It'll be a bit late by TCR and 
most likely I will have my hands full and will be eager for a little frivolity 
myself. You are Cavers, you come out of the woodwork to get things done and 
lend helping hands, I love that! That's one of our groups best features. Let's 
make this happen and have fun doing it!! See you there. Thanks & be safe!


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[Texascavers] 35th Annual Texas Cavers Reunion Redux

2012-10-11 Thread Oztotl
Cavers!! One week left! For what, you might ask? Texas Cavers Reunion, that's 
what! When? One week from today, Thursday, October 18 to Sunday, October 21. 
Where? Paradise Canyon campground: http://www.paradisecanyon.com/images/map.pdf

If you are a caver, caver relative, caver friend or supporter, caver wannabe or 
caver spouse please attend. If you are not, please don't crash our party, you 
know who you are. Sasquatch will be looking for you and he hasn't fed recently.

Registration will begin Friday at 5 p.m. until there is a lull in registrants. 
It will begin again Saturday at 8 a.m. until very late. Vendors will be 
available all day Saturday and early Sunday morning hawking their wares. 
Registration gets you a wristband, meal, beverages and a chance at door prizes. 
The "Big Feed" will happen Saturday evening followed by awards. Bring your own 
plate, cup and feed tools to get the food from your plate to your food hole.

There won't be a live band this year (sorry, long story). Musical instruments 
are ok, however not at the hot tub. Cameras aren't allowed at the hot tub 
either. That end of the park is a quiet zone and it will be enforced.

If you we're counting on the Friday Bexar Grotto fish fry, they have opted out 
this year. Bring your own food or mooch off a neighbor. Perhaps another grotto 
is interested in raising funds by feeding folks instead. Sunday morning, some 
wonderful intrepid individuals will be making breakfast to raise funds for the 
Texas Cave Management Association.

Rumor has it there will be a nice hoity-toity pinky raised wine tasting Friday 
evening. A great chance to share your swanky wine find with good company and 
friends. Black tie optional. There is another rumor that there will be a bouncy 
house for those not old enough to drink yet still want the same woozy effects.

The Texas Speleological Association is having a meeting and election at 8 a.m. 
Come prepared to elect a new generation of servants Sunday morning. Also the 
TCMA is having a members meeting following the TSA meeting.

There are showers, some of us will stink before too long, take advantage of 
these facilities please. Sasquatch may confuse the smell with mating pheromones 
and that could be bad, unless you are into that. I don't wanna know. If you 
hear a massive throaty squeal, run for the showers!

There will be a parade and costume contest. Think "Maya Apocolypse 2012". Be 
creative! That said, this is a family event, please keep your nudity under 
control, I know, I know, but it'll be during daylight hours and some little 
ones may be present. If you must get out your nude fix, visit me behind the 
shed I will be happy to gawk.

Children and dogs. Both are welcome! They must be well behaved; no biting, 
fighting, constant screaming or barking. Pooping on the ground isn't 
encouraged, but if they must, please clean up after them. No mange or rabies or 
Ebola. Drooling is perfectly acceptable and I expect it. If there are 
complaints, Sasquatch will will be hungry.

If you have suggestions on how things could be better, feel free to implement 
these ideas (of course please consult me first). It'll be a bit late by TCR and 
most likely I will have my hands full and will be eager for a little frivolity 
myself. You are Cavers, you come out of the woodwork to get things done and 
lend helping hands, I love that! That's one of our groups best features. Let's 
make this happen and have fun doing it!! See you there. Thanks & be safe!


Sent cellularly.
-Don

[Texascavers] 35th Annual Texas Cavers Reunion Redux

2012-10-11 Thread Oztotl
Cavers!! One week left! For what, you might ask? Texas Cavers Reunion, that's 
what! When? One week from today, Thursday, October 18 to Sunday, October 21. 
Where? Paradise Canyon campground: http://www.paradisecanyon.com/images/map.pdf

If you are a caver, caver relative, caver friend or supporter, caver wannabe or 
caver spouse please attend. If you are not, please don't crash our party, you 
know who you are. Sasquatch will be looking for you and he hasn't fed recently.

Registration will begin Friday at 5 p.m. until there is a lull in registrants. 
It will begin again Saturday at 8 a.m. until very late. Vendors will be 
available all day Saturday and early Sunday morning hawking their wares. 
Registration gets you a wristband, meal, beverages and a chance at door prizes. 
The "Big Feed" will happen Saturday evening followed by awards. Bring your own 
plate, cup and feed tools to get the food from your plate to your food hole.

There won't be a live band this year (sorry, long story). Musical instruments 
are ok, however not at the hot tub. Cameras aren't allowed at the hot tub 
either. That end of the park is a quiet zone and it will be enforced.

If you we're counting on the Friday Bexar Grotto fish fry, they have opted out 
this year. Bring your own food or mooch off a neighbor. Perhaps another grotto 
is interested in raising funds by feeding folks instead. Sunday morning, some 
wonderful intrepid individuals will be making breakfast to raise funds for the 
Texas Cave Management Association.

Rumor has it there will be a nice hoity-toity pinky raised wine tasting Friday 
evening. A great chance to share your swanky wine find with good company and 
friends. Black tie optional. There is another rumor that there will be a bouncy 
house for those not old enough to drink yet still want the same woozy effects.

The Texas Speleological Association is having a meeting and election at 8 a.m. 
Come prepared to elect a new generation of servants Sunday morning. Also the 
TCMA is having a members meeting following the TSA meeting.

There are showers, some of us will stink before too long, take advantage of 
these facilities please. Sasquatch may confuse the smell with mating pheromones 
and that could be bad, unless you are into that. I don't wanna know. If you 
hear a massive throaty squeal, run for the showers!

There will be a parade and costume contest. Think "Maya Apocolypse 2012". Be 
creative! That said, this is a family event, please keep your nudity under 
control, I know, I know, but it'll be during daylight hours and some little 
ones may be present. If you must get out your nude fix, visit me behind the 
shed I will be happy to gawk.

Children and dogs. Both are welcome! They must be well behaved; no biting, 
fighting, constant screaming or barking. Pooping on the ground isn't 
encouraged, but if they must, please clean up after them. No mange or rabies or 
Ebola. Drooling is perfectly acceptable and I expect it. If there are 
complaints, Sasquatch will will be hungry.

If you have suggestions on how things could be better, feel free to implement 
these ideas (of course please consult me first). It'll be a bit late by TCR and 
most likely I will have my hands full and will be eager for a little frivolity 
myself. You are Cavers, you come out of the woodwork to get things done and 
lend helping hands, I love that! That's one of our groups best features. Let's 
make this happen and have fun doing it!! See you there. Thanks & be safe!


Sent cellularly.
-Don

Re: [Texascavers] Pete's femur

2012-10-08 Thread Oztotl
Pete, for crying out loud, you've given so much to us for a long time, let us 
give some back a little.

Sent cellularly.
-Don

On Oct 8, 2012, at 11:01 PM,pstrickla...@austin.rr.comwrote:

>   Well, now that I am one week into this femur missadventure I guess I should 
> put my own post on Cavetex. On Friday they moved me out of my post surgical 
> room on the second floor of the Round Rock Hospital into room 302 of the 
> Round Rock Hospital Rehabilitation Center. The painfull rehab is doing it's 
> job and I think I have a good chance of getting out of here around Friday. In 
> that case, I can't see that it would hurt me to sit in a vehicle or on a 
> stool by the barn and supervise loading that weekend. If that goes well, it 
> seems that I could supervise hot tub area setup at TCR the same way, a few 
> days later. The bigger trick will be where to sleep. I don't think that I 
> will be ready to crawl into my tent, and get down to and up from ground level 
> by then. I'm shure not going to let y'all pass the hat for a $155 cabin for 
> me. (Hell, the steps might kill me, or at least rebreak the leg). The 
> simpelist thing, if it is cool and bug free enough would be for me to sleep 
> in the front seat of my pickup. It's got a grab bar up high, and the seats 
> fold way back. (I have spent more than one night there). Another option is to 
> sleep on a cot in a tall tent Colin has. A lot of things could interfere, but 
> right now, I am optimistic about being at TCR.   Pete 
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Re: [Texascavers] Pete's femur

2012-10-08 Thread Oztotl
Pete, for crying out loud, you've given so much to us for a long time, let us 
give some back a little.

Sent cellularly.
-Don

On Oct 8, 2012, at 11:01 PM,pstrickla...@austin.rr.comwrote:

>   Well, now that I am one week into this femur missadventure I guess I should 
> put my own post on Cavetex. On Friday they moved me out of my post surgical 
> room on the second floor of the Round Rock Hospital into room 302 of the 
> Round Rock Hospital Rehabilitation Center. The painfull rehab is doing it's 
> job and I think I have a good chance of getting out of here around Friday. In 
> that case, I can't see that it would hurt me to sit in a vehicle or on a 
> stool by the barn and supervise loading that weekend. If that goes well, it 
> seems that I could supervise hot tub area setup at TCR the same way, a few 
> days later. The bigger trick will be where to sleep. I don't think that I 
> will be ready to crawl into my tent, and get down to and up from ground level 
> by then. I'm shure not going to let y'all pass the hat for a $155 cabin for 
> me. (Hell, the steps might kill me, or at least rebreak the leg). The 
> simpelist thing, if it is cool and bug free enough would be for me to sleep 
> in the front seat of my pickup. It's got a grab bar up high, and the seats 
> fold way back. (I have spent more than one night there). Another option is to 
> sleep on a cot in a tall tent Colin has. A lot of things could interfere, but 
> right now, I am optimistic about being at TCR.   Pete 
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Re: [Texascavers] Pete's femur

2012-10-08 Thread Oztotl
Pete, for crying out loud, you've given so much to us for a long time, let us 
give some back a little.

Sent cellularly.
-Don

On Oct 8, 2012, at 11:01 PM,pstrickla...@austin.rr.comwrote:

>   Well, now that I am one week into this femur missadventure I guess I should 
> put my own post on Cavetex. On Friday they moved me out of my post surgical 
> room on the second floor of the Round Rock Hospital into room 302 of the 
> Round Rock Hospital Rehabilitation Center. The painfull rehab is doing it's 
> job and I think I have a good chance of getting out of here around Friday. In 
> that case, I can't see that it would hurt me to sit in a vehicle or on a 
> stool by the barn and supervise loading that weekend. If that goes well, it 
> seems that I could supervise hot tub area setup at TCR the same way, a few 
> days later. The bigger trick will be where to sleep. I don't think that I 
> will be ready to crawl into my tent, and get down to and up from ground level 
> by then. I'm shure not going to let y'all pass the hat for a $155 cabin for 
> me. (Hell, the steps might kill me, or at least rebreak the leg). The 
> simpelist thing, if it is cool and bug free enough would be for me to sleep 
> in the front seat of my pickup. It's got a grab bar up high, and the seats 
> fold way back. (I have spent more than one night there). Another option is to 
> sleep on a cot in a tall tent Colin has. A lot of things could interfere, but 
> right now, I am optimistic about being at TCR.   Pete 
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Re: [Texascavers] Rechargeable Batteries

2012-08-08 Thread Oztotl
Three times I've found an exploded (leaking, expanded) rechargeable in my 
charger during a normal cycle. Ruined battery, ruined charger. 

No battery expert here, but my experimentation is over. 

If I'm gonna recycle batteries (which I do), I choose ones I won't ruin and 
that are much more dependable out of the bulk pack. Duracells. Also have been 
quite pleased with my rechargeable sten batteries too...

Sent cellularly.
-Don

On Aug 8, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Dale Barnard  wrote:

> I second the suggestion to use Sanyo Eneloops. I haven't used them
> heavily, but my impression is that they sacrifice some capacity but
> reportedly have less loss when in storage and should last through more
> charge/discharge cycles. I had bad luck with the Energizers and
> Duracell rechargeables, so I gave them all away. They always seemed to
> be depleted when I went to use them.
> 
> Dale
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Re: [Texascavers] Rechargeable Batteries

2012-08-08 Thread Oztotl
Three times I've found an exploded (leaking, expanded) rechargeable in my 
charger during a normal cycle. Ruined battery, ruined charger. 

No battery expert here, but my experimentation is over. 

If I'm gonna recycle batteries (which I do), I choose ones I won't ruin and 
that are much more dependable out of the bulk pack. Duracells. Also have been 
quite pleased with my rechargeable sten batteries too...

Sent cellularly.
-Don

On Aug 8, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Dale Barnard  wrote:

> I second the suggestion to use Sanyo Eneloops. I haven't used them
> heavily, but my impression is that they sacrifice some capacity but
> reportedly have less loss when in storage and should last through more
> charge/discharge cycles. I had bad luck with the Energizers and
> Duracell rechargeables, so I gave them all away. They always seemed to
> be depleted when I went to use them.
> 
> Dale
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] Rechargeable Batteries

2012-08-08 Thread Oztotl
Three times I've found an exploded (leaking, expanded) rechargeable in my 
charger during a normal cycle. Ruined battery, ruined charger. 

No battery expert here, but my experimentation is over. 

If I'm gonna recycle batteries (which I do), I choose ones I won't ruin and 
that are much more dependable out of the bulk pack. Duracells. Also have been 
quite pleased with my rechargeable sten batteries too...

Sent cellularly.
-Don

On Aug 8, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Dale Barnard  wrote:

> I second the suggestion to use Sanyo Eneloops. I haven't used them
> heavily, but my impression is that they sacrifice some capacity but
> reportedly have less loss when in storage and should last through more
> charge/discharge cycles. I had bad luck with the Energizers and
> Duracell rechargeables, so I gave them all away. They always seemed to
> be depleted when I went to use them.
> 
> Dale
> 
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[Texascavers] [Assassin Beetles]

2012-06-19 Thread Oztotl
I'll try to bring in a sample from Bee county, I killed 2 yesterday.

On Tuesday, June 19, 2012, David Ochel wrote:


- Forwarded message fromgschin...@edwardsaquifer.org -
   Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 08:20:36 -0500
   From: Geary Schindel 
 Subject: FW: Study of kissing bugs for Chagus parasites in Texas.
 To: 'David Ochel' 

David,

I'm having a problem as this message keeps getting bounced to Texas Cavers.  
Can you post it for me.

Thanks,

Geary



I tried to send this out last week but I think it got bounced.

Geary

Folks,

Two medical researchers at Baylor University (Dr. Hotez and Dr. Murray) are 
interested in studying Triatomine Bugs (Kissing bug/Cone-nose Bug/Vinchuca) for 
Trypanosama cruzi.  This is the parasite that causes Chagus Disease in dogs and 
humans.  There is some discussion in the medical field whether Chagus has been 
transmitted to humans south Texas or whether most of the Chagus causes are 
representative of folks immigrating in from down south.  It has certainly been 
present in dogs and has resulted in a number of deaths in dogs. This is a 
pretty nasty disease and I've been told is responsible for about half of the 
heart transplant needs in Central and South America.  It causes all kinds of 
other health issues also.

Anyway, the kissing bug is pretty common in south central Texas and I caught 
four of them in the Deep Cabin last weekend.  One had taken a blood meal (not 
good). They were shipped off for testing. I've also seen two bites on the Deep 
and Punkin Nature preserve property for kissing bugs.  The researchers are 
asking for folks to collect kissing bugs and submit them for testing.  Since 
cavers are commonly out and about and have their nose to the ground, I thought 
I would ask if anyone is interesting in helping with the study.  All you have 
to do is collect the bugs, fill out a short form, and send it in to the 
research along with the bug.  Here are two links on Chagus.  The bug can be 
dead or alive but not smushed. The links also include some pictures of the bug 
as they are around an inch or less long and have a real pointy nose.  Maybe we 
should rethink sleeping out without a tent or netting.

If you would like to participate, please send me an email and I'll send you the 
address and other information.


http://www.allaboutchagasdisease.com/

http://www.cdc.gov/parasites/chagas/

Thanks,

Geary Schindel







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[Texascavers] [Assassin Beetles]

2012-06-19 Thread Oztotl
I'll try to bring in a sample from Bee county, I killed 2 yesterday.

On Tuesday, June 19, 2012, David Ochel wrote:


- Forwarded message fromgschin...@edwardsaquifer.org -
   Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 08:20:36 -0500
   From: Geary Schindel 
 Subject: FW: Study of kissing bugs for Chagus parasites in Texas.
 To: 'David Ochel' 

David,

I'm having a problem as this message keeps getting bounced to Texas Cavers.  
Can you post it for me.

Thanks,

Geary



I tried to send this out last week but I think it got bounced.

Geary

Folks,

Two medical researchers at Baylor University (Dr. Hotez and Dr. Murray) are 
interested in studying Triatomine Bugs (Kissing bug/Cone-nose Bug/Vinchuca) for 
Trypanosama cruzi.  This is the parasite that causes Chagus Disease in dogs and 
humans.  There is some discussion in the medical field whether Chagus has been 
transmitted to humans south Texas or whether most of the Chagus causes are 
representative of folks immigrating in from down south.  It has certainly been 
present in dogs and has resulted in a number of deaths in dogs. This is a 
pretty nasty disease and I've been told is responsible for about half of the 
heart transplant needs in Central and South America.  It causes all kinds of 
other health issues also.

Anyway, the kissing bug is pretty common in south central Texas and I caught 
four of them in the Deep Cabin last weekend.  One had taken a blood meal (not 
good). They were shipped off for testing. I've also seen two bites on the Deep 
and Punkin Nature preserve property for kissing bugs.  The researchers are 
asking for folks to collect kissing bugs and submit them for testing.  Since 
cavers are commonly out and about and have their nose to the ground, I thought 
I would ask if anyone is interesting in helping with the study.  All you have 
to do is collect the bugs, fill out a short form, and send it in to the 
research along with the bug.  Here are two links on Chagus.  The bug can be 
dead or alive but not smushed. The links also include some pictures of the bug 
as they are around an inch or less long and have a real pointy nose.  Maybe we 
should rethink sleeping out without a tent or netting.

If you would like to participate, please send me an email and I'll send you the 
address and other information.


http://www.allaboutchagasdisease.com/

http://www.cdc.gov/parasites/chagas/

Thanks,

Geary Schindel







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[Texascavers] [Assassin Beetles]

2012-06-19 Thread Oztotl
I'll try to bring in a sample from Bee county, I killed 2 yesterday.

On Tuesday, June 19, 2012, David Ochel wrote:


- Forwarded message fromgschin...@edwardsaquifer.org -
   Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 08:20:36 -0500
   From: Geary Schindel 
 Subject: FW: Study of kissing bugs for Chagus parasites in Texas.
 To: 'David Ochel' 

David,

I'm having a problem as this message keeps getting bounced to Texas Cavers.  
Can you post it for me.

Thanks,

Geary



I tried to send this out last week but I think it got bounced.

Geary

Folks,

Two medical researchers at Baylor University (Dr. Hotez and Dr. Murray) are 
interested in studying Triatomine Bugs (Kissing bug/Cone-nose Bug/Vinchuca) for 
Trypanosama cruzi.  This is the parasite that causes Chagus Disease in dogs and 
humans.  There is some discussion in the medical field whether Chagus has been 
transmitted to humans south Texas or whether most of the Chagus causes are 
representative of folks immigrating in from down south.  It has certainly been 
present in dogs and has resulted in a number of deaths in dogs. This is a 
pretty nasty disease and I've been told is responsible for about half of the 
heart transplant needs in Central and South America.  It causes all kinds of 
other health issues also.

Anyway, the kissing bug is pretty common in south central Texas and I caught 
four of them in the Deep Cabin last weekend.  One had taken a blood meal (not 
good). They were shipped off for testing. I've also seen two bites on the Deep 
and Punkin Nature preserve property for kissing bugs.  The researchers are 
asking for folks to collect kissing bugs and submit them for testing.  Since 
cavers are commonly out and about and have their nose to the ground, I thought 
I would ask if anyone is interesting in helping with the study.  All you have 
to do is collect the bugs, fill out a short form, and send it in to the 
research along with the bug.  Here are two links on Chagus.  The bug can be 
dead or alive but not smushed. The links also include some pictures of the bug 
as they are around an inch or less long and have a real pointy nose.  Maybe we 
should rethink sleeping out without a tent or netting.

If you would like to participate, please send me an email and I'll send you the 
address and other information.


http://www.allaboutchagasdisease.com/

http://www.cdc.gov/parasites/chagas/

Thanks,

Geary Schindel







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