Re: [Texascavers] Midnight Cave -- Lower Entrance
Thanks for writing. > On Nov 6, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers > wrote: > > This has not happened to my knowledge but has been discussed as an > alternative for at least one cave recently. > >> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Bill Steele via Texascavers >> wrote: >> Has TCMA ever leased a cave? >> >>> On Nov 6, 2017, at 10:07 AM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers >>> wrote: >>> >>> That's a great idea Bill. The TCMA has committed itself to building a >>> strong organizational foundation so it can, in the future, partner with >>> organizations to purchase large tracts with caves. Midnight cave is located >>> on a very large ranch and big purchases like that are not within the scope >>> of the TCMA at this time. >>> >>> Currently the TCMA is actively engaged in the purchase of property with the >>> TSS to house the yet unnamed Texas caving headquarters. While there isn't a >>> cave on the property and it is a little less exciting the purchase will >>> give a permanent home to Texas caving and it's assets and archives. This >>> will also mean that the TSS's archives will be more easily accessed by >>> cavers so they can find that new big project or get their new discoveries >>> recorded for posterity. >>> >>> Also, as far as I know there is no reason to believe the ranch Midnight is >>> on is for sale at this time. >>> >>> Gregg >>> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Bill Steele via Texascavers wrote: How about the TCMA acquiring Midnight Cave and more caves for caving? > On Nov 6, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Scott C wrote: > > I totally agree with Gregg. This is real caving stuff that is interesting > :) Thanks for sharing! > > Scott Cogburn > GHG > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 6, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers >> wrote: >> >> This sort of stuff is what this email list should have more of. >> >> Gregg >> >>> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 9:27 AM, James Jasek via Texascavers >>> wrote: >>> Great story >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhoneiPhone >>> >>> On Nov 5, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers >>> wrote: >>> >>> In Carl's message about digging open the lower entrance from inside >>> Midnight Cave, he didn't mention what happened next--one of many >>> stories in the lore of the Carta Valley cavers. >>> >>> Carl's original version is in the chapter on Midnight Cave in his 50 >>> Years of Texas Caving pp. 458-467. >>> It is better than my synopsis below. >>> >>> LowGun >>> >>> The successful dig gave Carl Kunath, Ron Bridgemon, Chuck Pease, and >>> Nick Lucas a rare opportunity to play a devilish trick on the other two >>> members of the team. Jan and Orion Knox were at the back of the cave >>> where they had pushed through the tortuous Corkscrew into a significant >>> unexplored section of the cave. >>> >>> The dig crew exited the new entrance, walked over to the pit entrance, >>> and pulled up the rope. They reentered through the lower entrance and >>> met up with Jan and Orion, who were not told of the discovery. Arriving >>> at the bottom of the pit entrance to find no rope, the conspirators >>> feigned dismay and consternation, but were disappointed at the calm >>> reaction of Jan and Orion. A brief quest for another way out surprised >>> them with sunlight coming through the new entrance. >>> ___ >>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >>> >>> ___ >>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >>> >> >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >>> >>> ___ >>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listin
Re: [Texascavers] Midnight Cave -- Lower Entrance
This has not happened to my knowledge but has been discussed as an alternative for at least one cave recently. On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Bill Steele via Texascavers < texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > Has TCMA ever leased a cave? > > On Nov 6, 2017, at 10:07 AM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers < > texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > > That's a great idea Bill. The TCMA has committed itself to building a > strong organizational foundation so it can, in the future, partner with > organizations to purchase large tracts with caves. Midnight cave is located > on a very large ranch and big purchases like that are not within the scope > of the TCMA at this time. > > Currently the TCMA is actively engaged in the purchase of property with > the TSS to house the yet unnamed Texas caving headquarters. While there > isn't a cave on the property and it is a little less exciting the purchase > will give a permanent home to Texas caving and it's assets and archives. > This will also mean that the TSS's archives will be more easily accessed by > cavers so they can find that new big project or get their new discoveries > recorded for posterity. > > Also, as far as I know there is no reason to believe the ranch Midnight > is on is for sale at this time. > > Gregg > > On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Bill Steele via Texascavers < > texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > >> How about the TCMA acquiring Midnight Cave and more caves for caving? >> >> On Nov 6, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Scott C wrote: >> >> I totally agree with Gregg. This is real caving stuff that is interesting >> :) Thanks for sharing! >> >> Scott Cogburn >> GHG >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Nov 6, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers < >> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: >> >> This sort of stuff is what this email list should have more of. >> >> Gregg >> >> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 9:27 AM, James Jasek via Texascavers < >> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: >> >>> Great story >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhoneiPhone >>> >>> On Nov 5, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers < >>> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: >>> >>> In Carl's message about digging open the lower entrance from inside >>> Midnight Cave, he didn't mention what happened next--one of many stories in >>> the lore of the Carta Valley cavers. >>> >>> Carl's original version is in the chapter on Midnight Cave in his *50 >>> Years of Texas Caving* pp. 458-467. >>> It is better than my synopsis below. >>> >>> LowGun >>> >>> The successful dig gave Carl Kunath, Ron Bridgemon, Chuck Pease, and >>> Nick Lucas a rare opportunity to play a devilish trick on the other two >>> members of the team. Jan and Orion Knox were at the back of the cave where >>> they had pushed through the tortuous Corkscrew into a significant >>> unexplored section of the cave. >>> >>> The dig crew exited the new entrance, walked over to the pit entrance, >>> and pulled up the rope. They reentered through the lower entrance and met >>> up with Jan and Orion, who were not told of the discovery. Arriving at the >>> bottom of the pit entrance to find no rope, the conspirators feigned dismay >>> and consternation, but were disappointed at the calm reaction of Jan and >>> Orion. A brief quest for another way out surprised them with sunlight >>> coming through the new entrance. >>> ___ >>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/te >>> xascav...@texascavers.com/ >>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >>> >>> ___ >>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/te >>> xascav...@texascavers.com/ >>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >>> >>> >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/te >> xascav...@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> >> >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/te >> xascav...@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> >> > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/te > xascav...@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/te > xascav...@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > ___ Texasca
Re: [Texascavers] Midnight Cave -- Lower Entrance
It has been discussed in the past - but no, TCMA has not "leased" any caves. But it seems like a good way to secure access to caves that people would like to visit. It is a shame that Beasley's Cave just sold. It might have been too large of a property. But a gyp cave would have made a nice addition to the TCMA. John Brooks Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 6, 2017, at 10:23 AM, Bill Steele via Texascavers > wrote: > > Has TCMA ever leased a cave? > >> On Nov 6, 2017, at 10:07 AM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers >> wrote: >> >> That's a great idea Bill. The TCMA has committed itself to building a strong >> organizational foundation so it can, in the future, partner with >> organizations to purchase large tracts with caves. Midnight cave is located >> on a very large ranch and big purchases like that are not within the scope >> of the TCMA at this time. >> >> Currently the TCMA is actively engaged in the purchase of property with the >> TSS to house the yet unnamed Texas caving headquarters. While there isn't a >> cave on the property and it is a little less exciting the purchase will give >> a permanent home to Texas caving and it's assets and archives. This will >> also mean that the TSS's archives will be more easily accessed by cavers so >> they can find that new big project or get their new discoveries recorded >> for posterity. >> >> Also, as far as I know there is no reason to believe the ranch Midnight is >> on is for sale at this time. >> >> Gregg >> >>> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Bill Steele via Texascavers >>> wrote: >>> How about the TCMA acquiring Midnight Cave and more caves for caving? >>> On Nov 6, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Scott C wrote: I totally agree with Gregg. This is real caving stuff that is interesting :) Thanks for sharing! Scott Cogburn GHG Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 6, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers > wrote: > > This sort of stuff is what this email list should have more of. > > Gregg > >> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 9:27 AM, James Jasek via Texascavers >> wrote: >> Great story >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhoneiPhone >> >> On Nov 5, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers >> wrote: >> >> In Carl's message about digging open the lower entrance from inside >> Midnight Cave, he didn't mention what happened next--one of many stories >> in the lore of the Carta Valley cavers. >> >> Carl's original version is in the chapter on Midnight Cave in his 50 >> Years of Texas Caving pp. 458-467. >> It is better than my synopsis below. >> >> LowGun >> >> The successful dig gave Carl Kunath, Ron Bridgemon, Chuck Pease, and >> Nick Lucas a rare opportunity to play a devilish trick on the other two >> members of the team. Jan and Orion Knox were at the back of the cave >> where they had pushed through the tortuous Corkscrew into a significant >> unexplored section of the cave. >> >> The dig crew exited the new entrance, walked over to the pit entrance, >> and pulled up the rope. They reentered through the lower entrance and >> met up with Jan and Orion, who were not told of the discovery. Arriving >> at the bottom of the pit entrance to find no rope, the conspirators >> feigned dismay and consternation, but were disappointed at the calm >> reaction of Jan and Orion. A brief quest for another way out surprised >> them with sunlight coming through the new entrance. >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >>> >>> ___ >>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Midnight Cave -- Lower Entrance
Has TCMA ever leased a cave? > On Nov 6, 2017, at 10:07 AM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers > wrote: > > That's a great idea Bill. The TCMA has committed itself to building a strong > organizational foundation so it can, in the future, partner with > organizations to purchase large tracts with caves. Midnight cave is located > on a very large ranch and big purchases like that are not within the scope of > the TCMA at this time. > > Currently the TCMA is actively engaged in the purchase of property with the > TSS to house the yet unnamed Texas caving headquarters. While there isn't a > cave on the property and it is a little less exciting the purchase will give > a permanent home to Texas caving and it's assets and archives. This will also > mean that the TSS's archives will be more easily accessed by cavers so they > can find that new big project or get their new discoveries recorded for > posterity. > > Also, as far as I know there is no reason to believe the ranch Midnight is > on is for sale at this time. > > Gregg > >> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Bill Steele via Texascavers >> wrote: >> How about the TCMA acquiring Midnight Cave and more caves for caving? >> >>> On Nov 6, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Scott C wrote: >>> >>> I totally agree with Gregg. This is real caving stuff that is interesting >>> :) Thanks for sharing! >>> >>> Scott Cogburn >>> GHG >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Nov 6, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers wrote: This sort of stuff is what this email list should have more of. Gregg > On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 9:27 AM, James Jasek via Texascavers > wrote: > Great story > > > > Sent from my iPhoneiPhone > > On Nov 5, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers > wrote: > > In Carl's message about digging open the lower entrance from inside > Midnight Cave, he didn't mention what happened next--one of many stories > in the lore of the Carta Valley cavers. > > Carl's original version is in the chapter on Midnight Cave in his 50 > Years of Texas Caving pp. 458-467. > It is better than my synopsis below. > > LowGun > > The successful dig gave Carl Kunath, Ron Bridgemon, Chuck Pease, and Nick > Lucas a rare opportunity to play a devilish trick on the other two > members of the team. Jan and Orion Knox were at the back of the cave > where they had pushed through the tortuous Corkscrew into a significant > unexplored section of the cave. > > The dig crew exited the new entrance, walked over to the pit entrance, > and pulled up the rope. They reentered through the lower entrance and met > up with Jan and Orion, who were not told of the discovery. Arriving at > the bottom of the pit entrance to find no rope, the conspirators feigned > dismay and consternation, but were disappointed at the calm reaction of > Jan and Orion. A brief quest for another way out surprised them with > sunlight coming through the new entrance. > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Midnight Cave -- Lower Entrance
That's a great idea Bill. The TCMA has committed itself to building a strong organizational foundation so it can, in the future, partner with organizations to purchase large tracts with caves. Midnight cave is located on a very large ranch and big purchases like that are not within the scope of the TCMA at this time. Currently the TCMA is actively engaged in the purchase of property with the TSS to house the yet unnamed Texas caving headquarters. While there isn't a cave on the property and it is a little less exciting the purchase will give a permanent home to Texas caving and it's assets and archives. This will also mean that the TSS's archives will be more easily accessed by cavers so they can find that new big project or get their new discoveries recorded for posterity. Also, as far as I know there is no reason to believe the ranch Midnight is on is for sale at this time. Gregg On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Bill Steele via Texascavers < texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > How about the TCMA acquiring Midnight Cave and more caves for caving? > > On Nov 6, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Scott C wrote: > > I totally agree with Gregg. This is real caving stuff that is interesting > :) Thanks for sharing! > > Scott Cogburn > GHG > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 6, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers < > texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > > This sort of stuff is what this email list should have more of. > > Gregg > > On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 9:27 AM, James Jasek via Texascavers < > texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > >> Great story >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhoneiPhone >> >> On Nov 5, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers < >> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: >> >> In Carl's message about digging open the lower entrance from inside >> Midnight Cave, he didn't mention what happened next--one of many stories in >> the lore of the Carta Valley cavers. >> >> Carl's original version is in the chapter on Midnight Cave in his *50 >> Years of Texas Caving* pp. 458-467. >> It is better than my synopsis below. >> >> LowGun >> >> The successful dig gave Carl Kunath, Ron Bridgemon, Chuck Pease, and Nick >> Lucas a rare opportunity to play a devilish trick on the other two members >> of the team. Jan and Orion Knox were at the back of the cave where they had >> pushed through the tortuous Corkscrew into a significant unexplored section >> of the cave. >> >> The dig crew exited the new entrance, walked over to the pit entrance, >> and pulled up the rope. They reentered through the lower entrance and met >> up with Jan and Orion, who were not told of the discovery. Arriving at the >> bottom of the pit entrance to find no rope, the conspirators feigned dismay >> and consternation, but were disappointed at the calm reaction of Jan and >> Orion. A brief quest for another way out surprised them with sunlight >> coming through the new entrance. >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/te >> xascav...@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/te >> xascav...@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> >> > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/ > texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/ > texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Midnight Cave -- Lower Entrance
Midnight Cave is in the center of a large ranch. The new owners have no intention of splitting it out of the existing property. They are being wonderful stewards of the cave so it is not an issue for now. TCMA has an acquisition board that is actively looking for opportunities to buy good caves, in time, more will come!! Travis From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Bill Steele via Texascavers Sent: Monday, November 6, 2017 9:11 AM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: Bill Steele ; texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Midnight Cave -- Lower Entrance How about the TCMA acquiring Midnight Cave and more caves for caving? On Nov 6, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Scott C mailto:scotts.la...@yahoo.com> > wrote: I totally agree with Gregg. This is real caving stuff that is interesting :) Thanks for sharing! Scott Cogburn GHG Sent from my iPhone On Nov 6, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com> > wrote: This sort of stuff is what this email list should have more of. Gregg On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 9:27 AM, James Jasek via Texascavers mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com> > wrote: Great story Sent from my iPhoneiPhone On Nov 5, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com> > wrote: In Carl's message about digging open the lower entrance from inside Midnight Cave, he didn't mention what happened next--one of many stories in the lore of the Carta Valley cavers. Carl's original version is in the chapter on Midnight Cave in his 50 Years of Texas Caving pp. 458-467. It is better than my synopsis below. LowGun The successful dig gave Carl Kunath, Ron Bridgemon, Chuck Pease, and Nick Lucas a rare opportunity to play a devilish trick on the other two members of the team. Jan and Orion Knox were at the back of the cave where they had pushed through the tortuous Corkscrew into a significant unexplored section of the cave. The dig crew exited the new entrance, walked over to the pit entrance, and pulled up the rope. They reentered through the lower entrance and met up with Jan and Orion, who were not told of the discovery. Arriving at the bottom of the pit entrance to find no rope, the conspirators feigned dismay and consternation, but were disappointed at the calm reaction of Jan and Orion. A brief quest for another way out surprised them with sunlight coming through the new entrance. ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com <mailto:Texascavers@texascavers.com> | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com <mailto:Texascavers@texascavers.com> | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com <mailto:Texascavers@texascavers.com> | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Midnight Cave -- Lower Entrance
--- Begin Message --- TCMA...That’s totally awesome caving stuff, of course! Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 6, 2017, at 9:11 AM, Bill Steele via Texascavers > wrote: > > How about the TCMA acquiring Midnight Cave and more caves for caving? > >> On Nov 6, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Scott C wrote: >> >> I totally agree with Gregg. This is real caving stuff that is interesting :) >> Thanks for sharing! >> >> Scott Cogburn >> GHG >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 6, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers >>> wrote: >>> >>> This sort of stuff is what this email list should have more of. >>> >>> Gregg >>> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 9:27 AM, James Jasek via Texascavers wrote: Great story Sent from my iPhoneiPhone On Nov 5, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers wrote: In Carl's message about digging open the lower entrance from inside Midnight Cave, he didn't mention what happened next--one of many stories in the lore of the Carta Valley cavers. Carl's original version is in the chapter on Midnight Cave in his 50 Years of Texas Caving pp. 458-467. It is better than my synopsis below. LowGun The successful dig gave Carl Kunath, Ron Bridgemon, Chuck Pease, and Nick Lucas a rare opportunity to play a devilish trick on the other two members of the team. Jan and Orion Knox were at the back of the cave where they had pushed through the tortuous Corkscrew into a significant unexplored section of the cave. The dig crew exited the new entrance, walked over to the pit entrance, and pulled up the rope. They reentered through the lower entrance and met up with Jan and Orion, who were not told of the discovery. Arriving at the bottom of the pit entrance to find no rope, the conspirators feigned dismay and consternation, but were disappointed at the calm reaction of Jan and Orion. A brief quest for another way out surprised them with sunlight coming through the new entrance. ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >>> >>> ___ >>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers --- End Message --- ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Midnight Cave -- Lower Entrance
How about the TCMA acquiring Midnight Cave and more caves for caving? > On Nov 6, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Scott C wrote: > > I totally agree with Gregg. This is real caving stuff that is interesting :) > Thanks for sharing! > > Scott Cogburn > GHG > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 6, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers >> wrote: >> >> This sort of stuff is what this email list should have more of. >> >> Gregg >> >>> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 9:27 AM, James Jasek via Texascavers >>> wrote: >>> Great story >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhoneiPhone >>> >>> On Nov 5, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers >>> wrote: >>> >>> In Carl's message about digging open the lower entrance from inside >>> Midnight Cave, he didn't mention what happened next--one of many stories in >>> the lore of the Carta Valley cavers. >>> >>> Carl's original version is in the chapter on Midnight Cave in his 50 Years >>> of Texas Caving pp. 458-467. >>> It is better than my synopsis below. >>> >>> LowGun >>> >>> The successful dig gave Carl Kunath, Ron Bridgemon, Chuck Pease, and Nick >>> Lucas a rare opportunity to play a devilish trick on the other two members >>> of the team. Jan and Orion Knox were at the back of the cave where they had >>> pushed through the tortuous Corkscrew into a significant unexplored section >>> of the cave. >>> >>> The dig crew exited the new entrance, walked over to the pit entrance, and >>> pulled up the rope. They reentered through the lower entrance and met up >>> with Jan and Orion, who were not told of the discovery. Arriving at the >>> bottom of the pit entrance to find no rope, the conspirators feigned dismay >>> and consternation, but were disappointed at the calm reaction of Jan and >>> Orion. A brief quest for another way out surprised them with sunlight >>> coming through the new entrance. >>> ___ >>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >>> >>> ___ >>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >>> >> >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Midnight Cave -- Lower Entrance
--- Begin Message --- I totally agree with Gregg. This is real caving stuff that is interesting :) Thanks for sharing! Scott Cogburn GHG Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 6, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers > wrote: > > This sort of stuff is what this email list should have more of. > > Gregg > >> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 9:27 AM, James Jasek via Texascavers >> wrote: >> Great story >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhoneiPhone >> >> On Nov 5, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers >> wrote: >> >> In Carl's message about digging open the lower entrance from inside Midnight >> Cave, he didn't mention what happened next--one of many stories in the lore >> of the Carta Valley cavers. >> >> Carl's original version is in the chapter on Midnight Cave in his 50 Years >> of Texas Caving pp. 458-467. >> It is better than my synopsis below. >> >> LowGun >> >> The successful dig gave Carl Kunath, Ron Bridgemon, Chuck Pease, and Nick >> Lucas a rare opportunity to play a devilish trick on the other two members >> of the team. Jan and Orion Knox were at the back of the cave where they had >> pushed through the tortuous Corkscrew into a significant unexplored section >> of the cave. >> >> The dig crew exited the new entrance, walked over to the pit entrance, and >> pulled up the rope. They reentered through the lower entrance and met up >> with Jan and Orion, who were not told of the discovery. Arriving at the >> bottom of the pit entrance to find no rope, the conspirators feigned dismay >> and consternation, but were disappointed at the calm reaction of Jan and >> Orion. A brief quest for another way out surprised them with sunlight coming >> through the new entrance. >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers --- End Message --- ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Midnight Cave -- Lower Entrance
This sort of stuff is what this email list should have more of. Gregg On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 9:27 AM, James Jasek via Texascavers < texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > Great story > > > > Sent from my iPhoneiPhone > > On Nov 5, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers < > texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > > In Carl's message about digging open the lower entrance from inside > Midnight Cave, he didn't mention what happened next--one of many stories in > the lore of the Carta Valley cavers. > > Carl's original version is in the chapter on Midnight Cave in his *50 > Years of Texas Caving* pp. 458-467. > It is better than my synopsis below. > > LowGun > > The successful dig gave Carl Kunath, Ron Bridgemon, Chuck Pease, and Nick > Lucas a rare opportunity to play a devilish trick on the other two members > of the team. Jan and Orion Knox were at the back of the cave where they had > pushed through the tortuous Corkscrew into a significant unexplored section > of the cave. > > The dig crew exited the new entrance, walked over to the pit entrance, and > pulled up the rope. They reentered through the lower entrance and met up > with Jan and Orion, who were not told of the discovery. Arriving at the > bottom of the pit entrance to find no rope, the conspirators feigned dismay > and consternation, but were disappointed at the calm reaction of Jan and > Orion. A brief quest for another way out surprised them with sunlight > coming through the new entrance. > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/ > texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/ > texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Midnight Cave -- Lower Entrance
Great story Sent from my iPhoneiPhone On Nov 5, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers wrote: In Carl's message about digging open the lower entrance from inside Midnight Cave, he didn't mention what happened next--one of many stories in the lore of the Carta Valley cavers. Carl's original version is in the chapter on Midnight Cave in his 50 Years of Texas Caving pp. 458-467. It is better than my synopsis below. LowGun The successful dig gave Carl Kunath, Ron Bridgemon, Chuck Pease, and Nick Lucas a rare opportunity to play a devilish trick on the other two members of the team. Jan and Orion Knox were at the back of the cave where they had pushed through the tortuous Corkscrew into a significant unexplored section of the cave. The dig crew exited the new entrance, walked over to the pit entrance, and pulled up the rope. They reentered through the lower entrance and met up with Jan and Orion, who were not told of the discovery. Arriving at the bottom of the pit entrance to find no rope, the conspirators feigned dismay and consternation, but were disappointed at the calm reaction of Jan and Orion. A brief quest for another way out surprised them with sunlight coming through the new entrance. ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Midnight Cave -- Lower Entrance
In Carl's message about digging open the lower entrance from inside Midnight Cave, he didn't mention what happened next--one of many stories in the lore of the Carta Valley cavers. Carl's original version is in the chapter on Midnight Cave in his 50 Years of Texas Caving pp. 458-467. It is better than my synopsis below. LowGun The successful dig gave Carl Kunath, Ron Bridgemon, Chuck Pease, and Nick Lucas a rare opportunity to play a devilish trick on the other two members of the team. Jan and Orion Knox were at the back of the cave where they had pushed through the tortuous Corkscrew into a significant unexplored section of the cave. The dig crew exited the new entrance, walked over to the pit entrance, and pulled up the rope. They reentered through the lower entrance and met up with Jan and Orion, who were not told of the discovery. Arriving at the bottom of the pit entrance to find no rope, the conspirators feigned dismay and consternation, but were disappointed at the calm reaction of Jan and Orion. A brief quest for another way out surprised them with sunlight coming through the new entrance. ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers