RE: [Texascavers] Off Topic - Where's the REAL OT List?

2011-03-18 Thread Fritz Holt
In a futile attempt to stay out of trouble, I post far more on OT than on 
Cavetex. I hope some of it is of interest or entertaining.

Geezer


From: Don Arburn [mailto:donarb...@mac.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 9:42 PM
Cc: TexasCavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Off Topic - Where's the REAL OT List?

One of the main reasons I hang and cave with Cavers are THE INTERESTING THINGS 
WE DISCUSS. Caving related or not, the wonderful diversity of opinions, 
beliefs, vocations...

Rod, excellent insight.

Sheryl, EXACTLY.

Can you read the header? Don't want to be bothered?
DELETE.

Sorry, my opinion is TOUGH

Y'all are friends, I enjoy what you offer and say, on topic or not.

Post, read, enjoy.


Don's iPhone.

On Mar 17, 2011, at 8:03 PM, Sheryl Rieck 
sheryl.ri...@gmail.commailto:sheryl.ri...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, the below made me laugh. Thanks for that, Rod.


Sheryl

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Rod Goke 
mailto:rod.g...@earthlink.netrod.g...@earthlink.netmailto:rod.g...@earthlink.net
 wrote:



It seems to me that attitudes towards the OT List on Texascavers have been 
something like the following:



We tried setting up an OT List, but nobody uses ...


RE: [Texascavers] Off Topic - Where's the REAL OT List?

2011-03-18 Thread Fritz Holt
In a futile attempt to stay out of trouble, I post far more on OT than on 
Cavetex. I hope some of it is of interest or entertaining.

Geezer


From: Don Arburn [mailto:donarb...@mac.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 9:42 PM
Cc: TexasCavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Off Topic - Where's the REAL OT List?

One of the main reasons I hang and cave with Cavers are THE INTERESTING THINGS 
WE DISCUSS. Caving related or not, the wonderful diversity of opinions, 
beliefs, vocations...

Rod, excellent insight.

Sheryl, EXACTLY.

Can you read the header? Don't want to be bothered?
DELETE.

Sorry, my opinion is TOUGH

Y'all are friends, I enjoy what you offer and say, on topic or not.

Post, read, enjoy.


Don's iPhone.

On Mar 17, 2011, at 8:03 PM, Sheryl Rieck 
sheryl.ri...@gmail.commailto:sheryl.ri...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, the below made me laugh. Thanks for that, Rod.


Sheryl

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Rod Goke 
mailto:rod.g...@earthlink.netrod.g...@earthlink.netmailto:rod.g...@earthlink.net
 wrote:



It seems to me that attitudes towards the OT List on Texascavers have been 
something like the following:



We tried setting up an OT List, but nobody uses ...


RE: [Texascavers] Off Topic - Where's the REAL OT List?

2011-03-17 Thread Rod Goke
<o...@texascavers.com>
It seems to me that attitudes towards the "OT List" onTexascavers have been something like the following:

 We tried setting up an OT List, but nobody uses it.

 Perhaps they don't know how to use it.

 No. It's easy. Just read the directions.

 Where can I find the directions?

 Look in the cabinet.

 The cabinet is locked. How can I get in?

 Use the key?

 Where's the key.

 Look next to the needle.

 What needle?

 The one in the haystack.

 Never mind. I don't want to use it after all.

 You see, even you won't use it, so there's no
 point in wasting effort to improve it.

It was nice ofLouise to provide theOT address. That's more than anyone else has done lately to make the OT List useable, but it's not a complete answer. What are we supposed to do with that address? How can we receive the OT messages? I bet that we first have to do something to subscribe to the OT List, but exactly how areTexascavers subscribers supposed to do that? Likewise, if you want to send a message to the OT List, how do you do that? Perhaps you simply email it to theOT address, right? Well, if you do that, you get the following "failure notice" frommailer-dae...@gnome.wokka.org:

 Hi. This is the qmail-send program at gnome.wokka.org.
 I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
 This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

 o...@texascavers.com:

 Sorry, only subscribers may post. If you are a subscriber, please forward
 thismessage to ot-ow...@texascavers.com to get your new address
 included (#5.7.2)
 ...

Exploring this kind of digital obstacle course might be tolerable for people really determined to use the service, but forTexascavers subscribers seeking a convenient way to engage in "virtual campfire" chat, it's no wonder that no one bothers to use it.

Rod

-Original Message-

From: Louise Power
Sent: Mar 16, 2011 3:04 AM
To: Rod Goke , Texas Cavers
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Off Topic - Where's the REAL OT List?


For those of you who wanted it, the OT address is:
o...@texascavers.com
People used it for awhile after it was established, but sort of veered off after a time.

Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:26:13 -0500
From: rod.g...@earthlink.net
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Off Topic - Where's the REAL OT List?




R D asked,

"Is it that difficult to post other material in a separate place?"

Unfortunately, it is quite difficult for anyone who has no clue about how to do it, and I suspect that most of the subscribers to Texascavers fall into this category. During the last several years, I've seen a number of messages on this list asking people to take various topics to the mysterious OT list, but I don't think I've ever seen a message explaining how to do that. No wonder nobody (or practically nobody) uses it!

If we want people to make use of a "REAL OT List" then we need to make sure that there is an easy way for people to read it and to post messages there, and we need to publicize the directions enough on Texascavers so that people will actually know how to do it. Also, whenever a new discussion thread begins on the OT list, it would be useful for someone to alert us with a brief message posted to Texascavers. Otherwise, people interested in an OT topic are liable to miss the discussion by not checking the OT list, in which case, writers will be tempted to post everything to the regular Texascavers list, because they think no one is reading the OT list.

Rod

--

From: R D Milhollin
Sent: Mar 15, 2011 9:28 PM
To: Cave Texas
Subject: [Texascavers] Off Topic - Where's the REAL OT List?

There has been a lot of non-cave, non-caving, and non-caver posting here lately. I remember (and subscribed to) a separate list that I understood was expressly for that sort of stuff: cavers posting about non-cave-related topics. Does anyone else remember this? Seems that my mailbox set to receive caving stuff is getting filled up with other, unrelated material.

I expect to read about WNS, caving trips, convention and meeting announcements, news about fellow cavers, cave cleanups, cave publications, and other information I can't find anywhere else, or nearly anywhere else here on the Texas Cavers list. Is it that difficult to post other material in a separate place?




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Re: [Texascavers] Off Topic - Where's the REAL OT List?

2011-03-17 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Well, the below made me laugh. Thanks for that, Rod.

Here are my two cents. I don't see what the big deal is. I don't want to
read 50 posts about why everyone should join the NSS and another 50 about
every single solitary caving related event the world over. So I use my
delete button. I actually enjoy a lot of the off-topic conversation. That
which I do not enjoy, I delete. Please tell me how lazy you have to be to
think that clicking a button that takes less than 2 seconds to click is a
big deal. Most email programs allow for multiple deletes.  I wonder how long
it takes to write the email complaining about the emails?

So, there is my opinion. It isn't worth much, but it is all I have. :-) See
you at TSA Spring Convention!

Sheryl



On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Rod Goke rod.g...@earthlink.net wrote:


 It seems to me that attitudes towards the OT List on Texascavers have
 been something like the following:


 We tried setting up an OT List, but nobody uses it.


 Perhaps they don't know how to use it.


 No. It's easy. Just read the directions.


 Where can I find the directions?


 Look in the cabinet.


 The cabinet is locked. How can I get in?


 Use the key?


 Where's the key.


 Look next to the needle.


 What needle?


 The one in the haystack.


 Never mind. I don't want to use it after all.


 You see, even you won't use it, so there's no

 point in wasting effort to improve it.


 It was nice of Louise to provide the OT address. That's more than anyone
 else has done lately to make the OT List useable, but it's not a complete
 answer. What are we supposed to do with that address? How can we receive the
 OT messages? I bet that we first have to do something to subscribe to the OT
 List, but exactly how are Texascavers subscribers supposed to do that?
 Likewise, if you want to send a message to the OT List, how do you do that?
 Perhaps you simply email it to the OT address, right? Well, if you do that,
 you get the following failure notice from mailer-dae...@gnome.wokka.org:


Hi. This is the qmail-send program at gnome.wokka.org.

I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
 addresses.

This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.


o...@texascavers.com:


Sorry, only subscribers may post. If you are a subscriber, please
 forward

this message to ot-ow...@texascavers.com to get your new address

included (#5.7.2)

...


 Exploring this kind of digital obstacle course might be tolerable for
 people really determined to use the service, but for Texascavers subscribers
 seeking a convenient way to engage in virtual campfire chat, it's no
 wonder that no one bothers to use it.


 Rod


 -Original Message-


 From: Louise Power

 Sent: Mar 16, 2011 3:04 AM

 To: Rod Goke , Texas Cavers

 Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Off Topic - Where's the REAL OT List?



 For those of you who wanted it, the OT address is:

 o...@texascavers.com

 People used it for awhile after it was established, but sort of veered off
 after a time.


 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:26:13 -0500

 From: rod.g...@earthlink.net

 To: Texascavers@texascavers.com

 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Off Topic - Where's the REAL OT List?





 R D asked,


 Is it that difficult to post other material in a separate place?


 Unfortunately, it is quite difficult for anyone who has no clue about how
 to do it, and I suspect that most of the subscribers to Texascavers fall
 into this category. During the last several years, I've seen a number of
 messages on this list asking people to take various topics to the mysterious
 OT list, but I don't think I've ever seen a message explaining how to do
 that. No wonder nobody (or practically nobody) uses it!


 If we want people to make use of a REAL OT List then we need to make sure
 that there is an easy way for people to read it and to post messages there,
 and we need to publicize the directions enough on Texascavers so that people
 will actually know how to do it. Also, whenever a new discussion thread
 begins on the OT list, it would be useful for someone to alert us with a
 brief message posted to Texascavers. Otherwise, people interested in an OT
 topic are liable to miss the discussion by not checking the OT list, in
 which case, writers will be tempted to post everything to the regular
 Texascavers list, because they think no one is reading the OT list.


 Rod


 --


 From: R D Milhollin

 Sent: Mar 15, 2011 9:28 PM

 To: Cave Texas

 Subject: [Texascavers] Off Topic - Where's the REAL OT List?


 There has been a lot of non-cave, non-caving, and non-caver posting here
 lately. I remember (and subscribed to) a separate list that I understood was
 expressly for that sort of stuff: cavers posting about non-cave-related
 topics. Does anyone else remember this? Seems that my mailbox set to receive
 caving stuff is getting filled up

Re: [Texascavers] Off Topic - Where's the REAL OT List?

2011-03-17 Thread Don Arburn
One of the main reasons I hang and cave with Cavers are THE INTERESTING THINGS 
WE DISCUSS. Caving related or not, the wonderful diversity of opinions, 
beliefs, vocations...

Rod, excellent insight.

Sheryl, EXACTLY.

Can you read the header? Don't want to be bothered?
DELETE.

Sorry, my opinion is TOUGH

Y'all are friends, I enjoy what you offer and say, on topic or not.

Post, read, enjoy.


Don's iPhone.

On Mar 17, 2011, at 8:03 PM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, the below made me laugh. Thanks for that, Rod.
 
 
 Sheryl
 
 
 On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Rod Goke rod.g...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 It seems to me that attitudes towards the OT List on Texascavers have been 
 something like the following:
 
 We tried setting up an OT List, but nobody uses ...


RE: [Texascavers] Off Topic - Where's the REAL OT List?

2011-03-17 Thread Rod Goke
<o...@texascavers.com>
It seems to me that attitudes towards the "OT List" onTexascavers have been something like the following:

 We tried setting up an OT List, but nobody uses it.

 Perhaps they don't know how to use it.

 No. It's easy. Just read the directions.

 Where can I find the directions?

 Look in the cabinet.

 The cabinet is locked. How can I get in?

 Use the key?

 Where's the key.

 Look next to the needle.

 What needle?

 The one in the haystack.

 Never mind. I don't want to use it after all.

 You see, even you won't use it, so there's no
 point in wasting effort to improve it.

It was nice ofLouise to provide theOT address. That's more than anyone else has done lately to make the OT List useable, but it's not a complete answer. What are we supposed to do with that address? How can we receive the OT messages? I bet that we first have to do something to subscribe to the OT List, but exactly how areTexascavers subscribers supposed to do that? Likewise, if you want to send a message to the OT List, how do you do that? Perhaps you simply email it to theOT address, right? Well, if you do that, you get the following "failure notice" frommailer-dae...@gnome.wokka.org:

 Hi. This is the qmail-send program at gnome.wokka.org.
 I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
 This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

 o...@texascavers.com:

 Sorry, only subscribers may post. If you are a subscriber, please forward
 thismessage to ot-ow...@texascavers.com to get your new address
 included (#5.7.2)
 ...

Exploring this kind of digital obstacle course might be tolerable for people really determined to use the service, but forTexascavers subscribers seeking a convenient way to engage in "virtual campfire" chat, it's no wonder that no one bothers to use it.

Rod

-Original Message-

From: Louise Power
Sent: Mar 16, 2011 3:04 AM
To: Rod Goke , Texas Cavers
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Off Topic - Where's the REAL OT List?


For those of you who wanted it, the OT address is:
o...@texascavers.com
People used it for awhile after it was established, but sort of veered off after a time.

Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:26:13 -0500
From: rod.g...@earthlink.net
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Off Topic - Where's the REAL OT List?




R D asked,

"Is it that difficult to post other material in a separate place?"

Unfortunately, it is quite difficult for anyone who has no clue about how to do it, and I suspect that most of the subscribers to Texascavers fall into this category. During the last several years, I've seen a number of messages on this list asking people to take various topics to the mysterious OT list, but I don't think I've ever seen a message explaining how to do that. No wonder nobody (or practically nobody) uses it!

If we want people to make use of a "REAL OT List" then we need to make sure that there is an easy way for people to read it and to post messages there, and we need to publicize the directions enough on Texascavers so that people will actually know how to do it. Also, whenever a new discussion thread begins on the OT list, it would be useful for someone to alert us with a brief message posted to Texascavers. Otherwise, people interested in an OT topic are liable to miss the discussion by not checking the OT list, in which case, writers will be tempted to post everything to the regular Texascavers list, because they think no one is reading the OT list.

Rod

--

From: R D Milhollin
Sent: Mar 15, 2011 9:28 PM
To: Cave Texas
Subject: [Texascavers] Off Topic - Where's the REAL OT List?

There has been a lot of non-cave, non-caving, and non-caver posting here lately. I remember (and subscribed to) a separate list that I understood was expressly for that sort of stuff: cavers posting about non-cave-related topics. Does anyone else remember this? Seems that my mailbox set to receive caving stuff is getting filled up with other, unrelated material.

I expect to read about WNS, caving trips, convention and meeting announcements, news about fellow cavers, cave cleanups, cave publications, and other information I can't find anywhere else, or nearly anywhere else here on the Texas Cavers list. Is it that difficult to post other material in a separate place?




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Re: [Texascavers] Off Topic - Where's the REAL OT List?

2011-03-17 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Well, the below made me laugh. Thanks for that, Rod.

Here are my two cents. I don't see what the big deal is. I don't want to
read 50 posts about why everyone should join the NSS and another 50 about
every single solitary caving related event the world over. So I use my
delete button. I actually enjoy a lot of the off-topic conversation. That
which I do not enjoy, I delete. Please tell me how lazy you have to be to
think that clicking a button that takes less than 2 seconds to click is a
big deal. Most email programs allow for multiple deletes.  I wonder how long
it takes to write the email complaining about the emails?

So, there is my opinion. It isn't worth much, but it is all I have. :-) See
you at TSA Spring Convention!

Sheryl



On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Rod Goke rod.g...@earthlink.net wrote:


 It seems to me that attitudes towards the OT List on Texascavers have
 been something like the following:


 We tried setting up an OT List, but nobody uses it.


 Perhaps they don't know how to use it.


 No. It's easy. Just read the directions.


 Where can I find the directions?


 Look in the cabinet.


 The cabinet is locked. How can I get in?


 Use the key?


 Where's the key.


 Look next to the needle.


 What needle?


 The one in the haystack.


 Never mind. I don't want to use it after all.


 You see, even you won't use it, so there's no

 point in wasting effort to improve it.


 It was nice of Louise to provide the OT address. That's more than anyone
 else has done lately to make the OT List useable, but it's not a complete
 answer. What are we supposed to do with that address? How can we receive the
 OT messages? I bet that we first have to do something to subscribe to the OT
 List, but exactly how are Texascavers subscribers supposed to do that?
 Likewise, if you want to send a message to the OT List, how do you do that?
 Perhaps you simply email it to the OT address, right? Well, if you do that,
 you get the following failure notice from mailer-dae...@gnome.wokka.org:


Hi. This is the qmail-send program at gnome.wokka.org.

I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
 addresses.

This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.


o...@texascavers.com:


Sorry, only subscribers may post. If you are a subscriber, please
 forward

this message to ot-ow...@texascavers.com to get your new address

included (#5.7.2)

...


 Exploring this kind of digital obstacle course might be tolerable for
 people really determined to use the service, but for Texascavers subscribers
 seeking a convenient way to engage in virtual campfire chat, it's no
 wonder that no one bothers to use it.


 Rod


 -Original Message-


 From: Louise Power

 Sent: Mar 16, 2011 3:04 AM

 To: Rod Goke , Texas Cavers

 Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Off Topic - Where's the REAL OT List?



 For those of you who wanted it, the OT address is:

 o...@texascavers.com

 People used it for awhile after it was established, but sort of veered off
 after a time.


 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:26:13 -0500

 From: rod.g...@earthlink.net

 To: Texascavers@texascavers.com

 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Off Topic - Where's the REAL OT List?





 R D asked,


 Is it that difficult to post other material in a separate place?


 Unfortunately, it is quite difficult for anyone who has no clue about how
 to do it, and I suspect that most of the subscribers to Texascavers fall
 into this category. During the last several years, I've seen a number of
 messages on this list asking people to take various topics to the mysterious
 OT list, but I don't think I've ever seen a message explaining how to do
 that. No wonder nobody (or practically nobody) uses it!


 If we want people to make use of a REAL OT List then we need to make sure
 that there is an easy way for people to read it and to post messages there,
 and we need to publicize the directions enough on Texascavers so that people
 will actually know how to do it. Also, whenever a new discussion thread
 begins on the OT list, it would be useful for someone to alert us with a
 brief message posted to Texascavers. Otherwise, people interested in an OT
 topic are liable to miss the discussion by not checking the OT list, in
 which case, writers will be tempted to post everything to the regular
 Texascavers list, because they think no one is reading the OT list.


 Rod


 --


 From: R D Milhollin

 Sent: Mar 15, 2011 9:28 PM

 To: Cave Texas

 Subject: [Texascavers] Off Topic - Where's the REAL OT List?


 There has been a lot of non-cave, non-caving, and non-caver posting here
 lately. I remember (and subscribed to) a separate list that I understood was
 expressly for that sort of stuff: cavers posting about non-cave-related
 topics. Does anyone else remember this? Seems that my mailbox set to receive
 caving stuff is getting filled up

Re: [Texascavers] Off Topic - Where's the REAL OT List?

2011-03-17 Thread Don Arburn
One of the main reasons I hang and cave with Cavers are THE INTERESTING THINGS 
WE DISCUSS. Caving related or not, the wonderful diversity of opinions, 
beliefs, vocations...

Rod, excellent insight.

Sheryl, EXACTLY.

Can you read the header? Don't want to be bothered?
DELETE.

Sorry, my opinion is TOUGH

Y'all are friends, I enjoy what you offer and say, on topic or not.

Post, read, enjoy.


Don's iPhone.

On Mar 17, 2011, at 8:03 PM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, the below made me laugh. Thanks for that, Rod.
 
 
 Sheryl
 
 
 On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Rod Goke rod.g...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 It seems to me that attitudes towards the OT List on Texascavers have been 
 something like the following:
 
 We tried setting up an OT List, but nobody uses ...


Re: [Texascavers] Off Topic - Where's the REAL OT List?

2011-03-16 Thread Rod Goke
R D asked,"Is it that difficult to post other material in a separate place?"Unfortunately, it is quite difficult for anyone who has no clue about how to do it, and I suspect that most of the subscribers toTexascavers fall into this category. During the last several years, I've seen a number of messages on this list asking people to take various topics to the mysterious OT list, but I don't think I've ever seen a message explaining how to do that. No wonder nobody (or practically nobody) uses it!If we want people to make use of a "REAL OT List" then we need to make sure that there is an easy way for people to read it and to post messages there, and we need to publicize the directions enough onTexascavers so that people will actually know how to do it. Also, whenever a new discussion thread begins on the OT list, it would be useful for someone to alert us with a brief message posted toTexascavers. Otherwise, people interested in an OT topic are liable to miss the discussion by not checking the OT list, in which case, writers will be tempted to post everything to the regularTexascavers list, because they think no one is reading the OT list.Rod--From: R D Milhollin Sent: Mar 15, 2011 9:28 PMTo: Cave Texas Subject: [Texascavers] Off Topic - Where's the REAL OT List?There has been a lot of non-cave, non-caving, and non-caver posting here lately. I remember (and subscribed to) a separate list that I understood was expressly for that sort of stuff: cavers posting about non-cave-related topics. Does anyone else remember this? Seems that my mailbox set to receive caving stuff is getting filled up with other, unrelated material.I expect to read about WNS, caving trips, convention and meeting announcements, news about fellow cavers, cave cleanups, cave publications, and other information I can't find anywhere else, or nearly anywhere else here on the Texas Cavers list. Is it that difficult to post other material in a separate place?

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RE: [Texascavers] Off Topic - Where's the REAL OT List?

2011-03-16 Thread Louise Power

For those of you who wanted it, the OT address is:
o...@texascavers.com 
People used it for awhile after it was established, but sort of veered off 
after a time.

List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:26:13 -0500
From: rod.g...@earthlink.net
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Off Topic - Where's the REAL OT List?




R D asked,

Is it that difficult to post other material in a separate place?

Unfortunately, it is quite difficult for anyone who has no clue about how to do 
it, and I suspect that most of the subscribers to Texascavers fall into this 
category. During the last several years, I've seen a number of messages on this 
list asking people to take various topics to the mysterious OT list, but I 
don't think I've ever seen a message explaining how to do that. No wonder 
nobody (or practically nobody) uses it!

If we want people to make use of a REAL OT List then we need to make sure 
that there is an easy way for people to read it and to post messages there, and 
we need to publicize the directions enough on Texascavers so that people will 
actually know how to do it. Also, whenever a new discussion thread begins on 
the OT list, it would be useful for someone to alert us with a brief message 
posted to Texascavers. Otherwise, people interested in an OT topic are liable 
to miss the discussion by not checking the OT list, in which case, writers will 
be tempted to post everything to the regular Texascavers list, because they 
think no one is reading the OT list.

Rod

--

From: R D Milhollin 
Sent: Mar 15, 2011 9:28 PM
To: Cave Texas 
Subject: [Texascavers] Off Topic - Where's the REAL OT List?

There has been a lot of non-cave, non-caving, and non-caver posting here 
lately. I remember (and subscribed to) a separate list that I understood was 
expressly for that sort of stuff: cavers posting about non-cave-related topics. 
Does anyone else remember this? Seems that my mailbox set to receive caving 
stuff is getting filled up with other, unrelated material.

I expect to read about WNS, caving trips, convention and meeting announcements, 
news about fellow cavers, cave cleanups, cave publications, and other 
information I can't find anywhere else, or nearly anywhere else here on the 
Texas Cavers list.  Is it that difficult to post other material in a separate 
place? 




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[Texascavers] Off Topic - Where's the REAL OT List?

2011-03-15 Thread R D Milhollin
There has been a lot of non-cave, non-caving, and non-caver posting here 
lately. I remember (and subscribed to) a separate list that I understood was 
expressly for that sort of stuff: cavers posting about non-cave-related topics. 
Does anyone else remember this? Seems that my mailbox set to receive caving 
stuff is getting filled up with other, unrelated material.

I expect to read about WNS, caving trips, convention and meeting announcements, 
news about fellow cavers, cave cleanups, cave publications, and other 
information I can't find anywhere else, or nearly anywhere else here on the 
Texas Cavers list.  Is it that difficult to post other material in a separate 
place? 


  

[Texascavers] Off Topic - Where's the REAL OT List?

2011-03-15 Thread dirtdoc


I did transgress. Got carried away with the other posts.  SORRY 



DirtDoc

Re: [Texascavers] Off Topic - Where's the REAL OT List?

2011-03-15 Thread Don Arburn
How do we subscribe to the off topic list? I enjoy these campfire conversations.


Don's iPhone.

On Mar 15, 2011, at 9:32 PM, dirt...@comcast.net wrote:

 I did transgress. Got carried away with the other posts.  SORRY
 
  
 
 DirtDoc