[Texascavers] White-Nose Syndrome in Texas

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White-Nose Syndrome in Texas

https://www.whitenosesyndrome.org/news/fungus-causes-white-nose-syndrome-bats-detected-texas
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Re: [Texascavers] White-Nose Syndrome in PNW scientific article

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That said, it is often the case that the relative value of an article is 
inversely proportional to the number of authors cited. Given the current frenzy 
to publish and be recognized for Pd work, it would not be surprising if the 
number of authors exceeded the length of the article.

Jerry Atkinson.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 31, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Geary Schindel via Texascavers 
 wrote:

> Diana,
> 
> Very well said, I was thinking of replying also but you hit the nail on the 
> head. Most research these days are a collaboration between many scientists 
> and laboratories. I think the best example I've seen is some of the Super 
> Collider work that might have 150 authors for a paper. 
> 
> Geary Schindel
> gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org  
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> From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
> Diana Tomchick via Texascavers
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 12:16 PM
> To: Cave Tex 
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] White-Nose Syndrome in PNW scientific article
> 
> Let me clarify what constitutes authorship on a scientific article.
> 
> It does not necessarily mean that a person wrote one of the paragraphs. In 
> fact, in the future we may have artificial intelligence to thank for writing 
> much of the routine text in our articles and technical manuals.
> 
> It DOES mean that an author is a person that is responsible for one or more 
> of the following:
> 
> Coming up with the original idea (i.e., the hypothesis) for the experiment 
> Collecting data Analyzing data Presenting data (in graphical, written or 
> other forms such as videos, etc.) Supervising the people that collect, 
> analyze and present the data Drawing important conclusions from the data and 
> testing new hypotheses that result from this all-important step Writing the 
> text of the final document
> 
> You want and NEED all of these people to be listed as authors—as they are the 
> ones that are legitimately responsible for the final published work. If there 
> are any questions about what is presented in the work, everyone knows who is 
> responsible.
> 
> We call this transparency, which unfortunately is lacking in other important 
> human endeavors.
> 
> Diana
> 
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>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 11:59 AM, Cavers Texas  
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>> Wow! Fourteen alleged authors for an article with eight paragraphs. 
>> How many of those people do you think were really authors, i.e., 
>> writers? How many of them were just bottle washers? -- Mixon
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Re: [Texascavers] White-Nose Syndrome in PNW scientific article

[Geary Schindel via Texascavers]

Diana,

Very well said, I was thinking of replying also but you hit the nail on the 
head. Most research these days are a collaboration between many scientists and 
laboratories. I think the best example I've seen is some of the Super Collider 
work that might have 150 authors for a paper. 

Geary Schindel
gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org  

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Diana Tomchick via Texascavers
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 12:16 PM
To: Cave Tex 
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] White-Nose Syndrome in PNW scientific article

Let me clarify what constitutes authorship on a scientific article.

It does not necessarily mean that a person wrote one of the paragraphs. In 
fact, in the future we may have artificial intelligence to thank for writing 
much of the routine text in our articles and technical manuals.

It DOES mean that an author is a person that is responsible for one or more of 
the following:

Coming up with the original idea (i.e., the hypothesis) for the experiment 
Collecting data Analyzing data Presenting data (in graphical, written or other 
forms such as videos, etc.) Supervising the people that collect, analyze and 
present the data Drawing important conclusions from the data and testing new 
hypotheses that result from this all-important step Writing the text of the 
final document

You want and NEED all of these people to be listed as authors—as they are the 
ones that are legitimately responsible for the final published work. If there 
are any questions about what is presented in the work, everyone knows who is 
responsible.

We call this transparency, which unfortunately is lacking in other important 
human endeavors.

Diana

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Professor
Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry University of Texas Southwestern 
Medical Center
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214A
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> On Aug 31, 2016, at 11:59 AM, Cavers Texas  
> wrote:
>
> Wow! Fourteen alleged authors for an article with eight paragraphs. 
> How many of those people do you think were really authors, i.e., 
> writers? How many of them were just bottle washers? -- Mixon
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] White-Nose Syndrome in PNW scientific article

[Diana Tomchick via Texascavers]

Let me clarify what constitutes authorship on a scientific article.

It does not necessarily mean that a person wrote one of the paragraphs. In 
fact, in the future we may have artificial intelligence to thank for writing 
much of the routine text in our articles and technical manuals.

It DOES mean that an author is a person that is responsible for one or more of 
the following:

Coming up with the original idea (i.e., the hypothesis) for the experiment
Collecting data
Analyzing data
Presenting data (in graphical, written or other forms such as videos, etc.)
Supervising the people that collect, analyze and present the data
Drawing important conclusions from the data and testing new hypotheses that 
result from this all-important step
Writing the text of the final document

You want and NEED all of these people to be listed as authors—as they are the 
ones that are legitimately responsible for the final published work. If there 
are any questions about what is presented in the work, everyone knows who is 
responsible.

We call this transparency, which unfortunately is lacking in other important 
human endeavors.

Diana

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Professor
Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214A
Dallas, TX 75390-8816
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(214) 645-6383 (phone)
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> On Aug 31, 2016, at 11:59 AM, Cavers Texas  
> wrote:
>
> Wow! Fourteen alleged authors for an article with eight paragraphs. How many 
> of those people do you think were really authors, i.e., writers? How many of 
> them were just bottle washers? -- Mixon
> 
> Always forgive your enemies after they are hanged.
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] White-Nose Syndrome in PNW scientific article

[Mixon Bill via Texascavers]

Wow! Fourteen alleged authors for an article with eight paragraphs. How many of 
those people do you think were really authors, i.e., writers? How many of them 
were just bottle washers? -- Mixon

Always forgive your enemies after they are hanged.

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[Texascavers] White-Nose Syndrome in PNW scientific article

[Diana Tomchick via Texascavers]

In the latest issue of mSphere, the American Society for Microbiology open 
access journal.

Anyone should have the ability to access and download this article.


First Detection of Bat White-Nose Syndrome in Western North America
Jeffrey M. Lorch, Jonathan M. Palmer, Daniel L. Lindner, Anne E.
Ballmann, Kyle G. George, Kathryn Griffin, Susan Knowles, John R.
Huckabee, Katherine H. Haman, Christopher D. Anderson, Penny A. Becker,
Joseph B. Buchanan, Jeffrey T. Foster, and David S. Blehert
mSphere July/August 2016 1:e00148-16; doi:10.1128/mSphere.00148-16

White-nose syndrome (WNS) represents one of the most consequential wildlife
diseases of modern times. Since it was first documented in New York in
2006, the disease has killed millions of bats and threatens several
formerly abundant species with extirpation or extinction. The spread of WNS
in eastern North America has been relatively gradual, inducing optimism
that disease mitigation strategies could be established in time to conserve
bats susceptible to WNS in western North America. The recent detection of
the fungus that causes WNS in the Pacific Northwest, far from its previous
known distribution, increases the urgency for understanding the long-term
impacts of this disease and for developing strategies to conserve imperiled
bat species.

http://msphere.asm.org/content/1/4/e00148-16.abstract?etoc

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[Texascavers] White Nose Syndrome confirmed in Europe

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White Nose Syndrome confirmed in Europe

http://cavingnews.com/20120128-white-nose-syndrome-confirmed-in-europe-geomyces-destructans-stara-dratenicka-byci-skala-czech-republic


White Nose Syndrome Confirmed in Europe
January 28, 2012 / Czech Republic, Europe
 
Photo by Gilles San Martin/flickr




An article in the January 2012 issue of the Journal of Wildlife Diseases 
confirms the discovery of white-nose syndrome in European bats.



Although European bats had been seen exhibiting the characteristic white 
muzzles of WNS for decades, and identification of Geomyces destructans was made 
in 2008, confirmation of WNS itself had not been made do it’s method of testing 
that requires the bat to be euthanized, which is not allowed without a permit.



With the discovery of a dead greater mouse-eared bat in the Czech Republic’s 
Stara Dratenicka cave in March 2010 and five more, found 12 days later in 
nearby Bycı skala cave, scientists finally had what they needed to perform the 
test.



The results from the histopathological examination confirm the presence of 
white-nose syndrome in Europe, with two of the bats found dead testing positive 
and exhibiting symptoms of the disease such as significantly lower weight.



While mortality rates have so far not affected the population size of Europe’s 
bats, this conclusive proof of WNS and its ability to kill indicates the 
importance of keeping a close eye on Europe’s bat populations in the future.



Histopathology Confirms White-Nose Syndrome in Bats in Europe [Journal of 
Wildlife Diseases via the NSS WNS Page]

[Texascavers] White Nose Syndrome confirmed in Europe

[germanyj]

White Nose Syndrome confirmed in Europe

http://cavingnews.com/20120128-white-nose-syndrome-confirmed-in-europe-geomyces-destructans-stara-dratenicka-byci-skala-czech-republic


White Nose Syndrome Confirmed in Europe
January 28, 2012 / Czech Republic, Europe
 
Photo by Gilles San Martin/flickr




An article in the January 2012 issue of the Journal of Wildlife Diseases 
confirms the discovery of white-nose syndrome in European bats.



Although European bats had been seen exhibiting the characteristic white 
muzzles of WNS for decades, and identification of Geomyces destructans was made 
in 2008, confirmation of WNS itself had not been made do it’s method of testing 
that requires the bat to be euthanized, which is not allowed without a permit.



With the discovery of a dead greater mouse-eared bat in the Czech Republic’s 
Stara Dratenicka cave in March 2010 and five more, found 12 days later in 
nearby Bycı skala cave, scientists finally had what they needed to perform the 
test.



The results from the histopathological examination confirm the presence of 
white-nose syndrome in Europe, with two of the bats found dead testing positive 
and exhibiting symptoms of the disease such as significantly lower weight.



While mortality rates have so far not affected the population size of Europe’s 
bats, this conclusive proof of WNS and its ability to kill indicates the 
importance of keeping a close eye on Europe’s bat populations in the future.



Histopathology Confirms White-Nose Syndrome in Bats in Europe [Journal of 
Wildlife Diseases via the NSS WNS Page]

[Texascavers] White Nose Syndrome confirmed in Europe

[germanyj]

White Nose Syndrome confirmed in Europe

http://cavingnews.com/20120128-white-nose-syndrome-confirmed-in-europe-geomyces-destructans-stara-dratenicka-byci-skala-czech-republic


White Nose Syndrome Confirmed in Europe
January 28, 2012 / Czech Republic, Europe
 
Photo by Gilles San Martin/flickr




An article in the January 2012 issue of the Journal of Wildlife Diseases 
confirms the discovery of white-nose syndrome in European bats.



Although European bats had been seen exhibiting the characteristic white 
muzzles of WNS for decades, and identification of Geomyces destructans was made 
in 2008, confirmation of WNS itself had not been made do it’s method of testing 
that requires the bat to be euthanized, which is not allowed without a permit.



With the discovery of a dead greater mouse-eared bat in the Czech Republic’s 
Stara Dratenicka cave in March 2010 and five more, found 12 days later in 
nearby Bycı skala cave, scientists finally had what they needed to perform the 
test.



The results from the histopathological examination confirm the presence of 
white-nose syndrome in Europe, with two of the bats found dead testing positive 
and exhibiting symptoms of the disease such as significantly lower weight.



While mortality rates have so far not affected the population size of Europe’s 
bats, this conclusive proof of WNS and its ability to kill indicates the 
importance of keeping a close eye on Europe’s bat populations in the future.



Histopathology Confirms White-Nose Syndrome in Bats in Europe [Journal of 
Wildlife Diseases via the NSS WNS Page]

[Texascavers] White Nose Syndrome article from NJ

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Decline of little brown bats 'definitely worsening'
Saturday, November 6, 2010 
LAST UPDATED: SATURDAY NOVEMBER 6, 2010, 1:18 PM
BY JAMES M. O'NEILL
THE RECORD
STAFF WRITER
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The catastrophic drop in the little brown bat population is continuing, with 
the numbers down 50 percent from last summer and 80 percent from 2008, 
according to the results of New Jersey's annual summer bat count.


The dramatic declines are due to a fungus that attacks the bats during their 
winter hibernation in caves and abandoned mines. The outbreak is called 
white-nose syndrome for a white fuzz the fungus produces on the nose, ears and 
wing membranes of infected bats.

"It's definitely worsening," said MacKenzie Hall, a Conserve Wildlife 
Foundation biologist who runs the summer bat count for the state.

At several summer roost sites in Mahwah, for instance, populations dropped by 
47 percent to 100 percent from the historical average. One site that used to 
have 139 bats had none this year.

New Jersey officials have estimated an overall 90 percent decline in the 
state's hibernating bat population. Last winter, when Mick Valent, principal 
zoologist with the state's Endangered and Non-game Species Program, visited 
Morris County's Hibernia Mine, he found only about 1,700 bats alive, in a 
hibernation spot that historically housed 30,000.

"Some scientists are projecting the likelihood of the complete loss of a 
functioning population of little brown bats within the next 16 to 20 years," 
said Jeremy Coleman, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service's national white-nose 
syndrome coordinator. "This is unprecedented. We've never seen a decline in a 
species equal to this aside from those caused by human intervention, such as 
with the American bison."

The declines in New Jersey mirror death rates elsewhere.

Summer count
Historical  Highest Highest  Percent

Roost count count   count   change

locationaverage 20092010from avg.

Allendale   44  0   0   -100

Mahwah 1139 5   0   -100

Mahwah 2110 98  58  -47

Mahwah 3150 78  72  -52

Northvale   12  11   no count

Source: Conserve Wildlife Foundation of New Jersey

The fungus has killed more than a million bats of six different species in 12 
states and two Canadian provinces, and some experts believe the number is far 
higher, as much as 1.5 million dead. The fungus was first discovered in a cave 
near Albany, N.Y., in 2007 and now has spread as far west as Oklahoma.

"It's spreading across the country faster than scientists thought," said DeeAnn 
Reeder, a Bucknell University biologist who is studying the outbreak. "We're 
all behind."

The little brown bat species is the hardest hit in New Jersey and elsewhere.
 
The human toll

The widespread loss of bats has potential ramifications for humans, since bats 
consume huge quantities of bugs, including insects that damage crops or carry 
West Nile and other potentially fatal diseases.

Scientists think humans who visit caves may inadvertently spread the fungus 
from cave to cave. To try and halt the spread, government agencies across the 
country have been closing access to caves and abandoned mines.

"People are getting desperate to do something," Reeder said.

In New Jersey, the Conserve Wildlife Foundation has teamed with owners of 15 
forest areas in the northwestern part of the state, including one site in West 
Milford, to create more habitat for bats.

One endangered species, the Indiana bat, roosts in summer under the loose bark 
of dead trees and switches roosts every few days. "A lot of New Jersey 
woodlands are under management, so the dead and dying trees are the first to 
get cut down," Hall said.

The owners of the forested areas in the program will girdle some trees to kill 
them so they provide more roost sites, or attach cedar shakes and other items 
to tree trunks to create roost spots, Hall said.

Reeder said she has little faith in finding a treatment option, such as a 
chemical, that could be successfully applied in the caves — the caves that bats 
use for hibernation also contain many other living organisms that could be 
harmed by whatever might kill off the fungus.

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[Texascavers] White Nose Syndrome video prepared by Texas Parks and Wildlife

[Geary Schindel]

Here is a link the Texas Parks and Wildlife prepared regarding White Nose 
Syndrome.

Thought you might like to see it.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YifcpmE53M0

[Texascavers] White-nose syndrome related

[David]

I think someone needs to create an e-mail listserve just for WNS, if
one has not been
created yet.

There are already almost a dozen Facebook Group pages:

http://www.facebook.com/search/?q=White+Nose+Syndrome&init=quick#!/group.php?gid=76877359038&ref=search&sid=1818118612.3343839725..1

http://www.facebook.com/search/?q=White+Nose+Syndrome&init=quick#!/group.php?gid=28654570863&ref=search&sid=1818118612.3343839725..1

http://www.facebook.com/search/?q=White+Nose+Syndrome&init=quick#!/group.php?gid=161283960340&ref=search&sid=1818118612.3343839725..1

http://www.facebook.com/search/?q=White+Nose+Syndrome&init=quick#!/pages/white-nose-syndrome-nwco-task-force/233516848603?ref=search&sid=1818118612.3343839725..1

http://www.facebook.com/search/?q=White+Nose+Syndrome&init=quick#!/pages/Go-Baty-About-White-Nose-Syndrome-wns/302684404728?ref=search&sid=1818118612.3343839725..1

http://www.facebook.com/search/?flt=1&q=White+Nose+Syndrome&o=69&sid=1818118612.3343839725..1&s=10#!/group.php?gid=86565889221&ref=search&sid=1818118612.3343839725..1

And the radical one:

http://www.facebook.com/search/?flt=1&q=White+Nose+Syndrome&o=69&sid=1818118612.3343839725..1&s=10#!/group.php?gid=57981204165&ref=search&sid=1818118612.3343839725..1

Most of the WNS news and news archives can be found at:

http://www.caves.org/grotto/dcg/white-nose.html

WNS on Google, gets 382,000 hits.

WNS on Google News gets 88 hits.

With similar results from other search engines.

And BCI has WNS info.

http://www.batcon.org/index.php/what-we-do/white-nose-syndrome.html

Apparently money donated to BCI is given a high priority to WNS research.

http://www.batcon.org/index.php/support-bci/make-a-donation.html?title=White-nose%20Syndrome&specialCode=WNS

In summary,

I don't think everything WNS related needs to be posted on Cavetex.
Of course, major WNS announcements
affecting all Texas cavers should be posted.Unfortunately, nearly
every new announcement seems to be such
a serious concern, that it is hard to draw the line on whether or not
to post something new about WNS.

David Locklear
caver in Fort Bend County

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[Texascavers] White Nose Syndrome Fungus Named

[Minton, Mark]

  The fungus responsible for White Nose Syndrome in bats has been described as a new species and named Geomyces destructans.    There is a link to the scientific publication, which is a free download.
 
Mark Minton

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[Texascavers] White Nose Syndrome

[Minton, Mark]

  There have been several items concerning White Nose Syndrome lately.  The 
NSS has a new informational brochure here:  
.  There is also a campaign 
to try to convince Congress to fund WNS research.  You can take action to get 
support for this here:  
.
  Finally, I heard last night on ABS News that they will be having a special 
report on WNS Thursday evening at 11 PM.

Mark Minton

[Texascavers] White Nose Syndrome

[Minton, Mark]

  There is a lengthy report on White Nose Syndrome on Earthfiles at 
.

Mark Minton

[Texascavers] White Nose Syndrome Article

[Minton, Mark]

  There is a good, in-depth article about White-Nose Syndrome in bats in the Northeast at .
 
Mark Minton

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