[tw] Changing colors in tw-tree-executive

2010-01-27 Thread danraymond
Hello, sort of new here and developing my TW as a super version of
infoselect.

I really like the tree executive implementation by Morris Gray.
However, I am having trouble changing the colors. Modifying the
colorpalette tiddler doesn't seem to work and the colors seem to be
hard coded into the stylesheet.

Am I missing something? is there a simple way to alter the colors.

Thanks in advance
Dan Raymond

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[tw] Re: Document indexing and preparation

2010-01-27 Thread twgrp
You may wish to look into Abegos FormTiddlerPlugin
(+DataTiddlerPlugin) to create forms that are more easily filled in in
view-mode. It makes a structured data approach easier. The
StandardSections can be made as separate forms. Several such can be
combined int o a bigger template.
(One difficulty I'm wrestling with myself is hwo to automatically make
content in form elements into tags, though.)

HTH

On Jan 27, 1:48 am, mOede mattoedeko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello Group,

 I am so excited to jump in to the world of TW.  I came across it just
 a week ago, and have already had several light bulb moments for
 things that I want to pursue with TW as a tool.

 For one such item, I would like to get some general design guidance.
 As I'm not a very proficient programmer, I would like to describe the
 problem, and get advice on how best to approach it.  Then I will
 describe what I've done so far, and maybe I've gotten close and folks
 can just tweak it a bit.  Thank you so much in advance for all of your
 great help.  This google group is by far the most helpful community I
 have ever seen.

 I am trying to create a TW site for preparing technical specification
 documents.  Each document could have 20+ sections (but not always the
 same sections).  I would like to start out with a standard document,
 and then make copies of each section as needed so I can edit it for a
 project without changing the standard set.  I would also like the
 ability to attach comments (separate from the edited section) that are
 searchable/accessible anytime I look at the standard section.  Hope
 this makes sense.

 Here is what I have tried already.  I have created a new tiddler for
 each standard section and tagged it StandardSection.  I have used
 Eric's copyTiddler for each of these sections, tagged it back to the
 standard section tiddler and tagged it to a compile tiddler for the
 document using matchTags.  So, using TagglyTagging, I can go to a
 standard section and see a list of project specific sections that
 relate to the standard, and comments related to those project specific
 sections.

 So, the question is, do you think this is a good approach?  Is there
 anything that would be better from a design perspective?  Also, one of
 the key features to make this work will be developing an easy way to
 copy and tag sections for a new document.  I have used ToggleTag to
 apply a new tag, but is there a way to have a list of tiddlers by one
 tag, and select an option box and copy all of those tiddlers and tag
 the new one?

 Thank you again.

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[tw] Re: Changing colors in tw-tree-executive

2010-01-27 Thread twgrp
Not an answer to your question, but because you mentino that you're
new here, I just want to make sure you know of:
http://monkeygtd.tiddlyspot.com/#Demo
http://groups.google.se/group/GTD-TiddlyWiki/topics?hl=svpli=1


On Jan 27, 10:02 am, danraymond nebul...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello, sort of new here and developing my TW as a super version of
 infoselect.

 I really like the tree executive implementation by Morris Gray.
 However, I am having trouble changing the colors. Modifying the
 colorpalette tiddler doesn't seem to work and the colors seem to be
 hard coded into the stylesheet.

 Am I missing something? is there a simple way to alter the colors.

 Thanks in advance
 Dan Raymond

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Re: [tw] Re: Document indexing and preparation

2010-01-27 Thread Alex Hough
i was wondering if the data and form plugins could use fields rather than
the data being stored in the tiddler. then there would be no data in
tiddlers. it can confuse.

i think there maybe a feeling that in the community that data plugin and
formTemplates might stymie progress ones progress in the long term.

I have a project which uses dataplugin and formTemplate. I came across a
problem and Tobias re-wrote the whole lot (!) solving the problem though
using native tiddlywiki data holders - slices, fields, tags and tiddlers.

Alex

2010/1/27 twgrp matiasg...@gmail.com

 You may wish to look into Abegos FormTiddlerPlugin
 (+DataTiddlerPlugin) to create forms that are more easily filled in in
 view-mode. It makes a structured data approach easier. The
 StandardSections can be made as separate forms. Several such can be
 combined int o a bigger template.
 (One difficulty I'm wrestling with myself is hwo to automatically make
 content in form elements into tags, though.)

 HTH

 On Jan 27, 1:48 am, mOede mattoedeko...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello Group,
 
  I am so excited to jump in to the world of TW.  I came across it just
  a week ago, and have already had several light bulb moments for
  things that I want to pursue with TW as a tool.
 
  For one such item, I would like to get some general design guidance.
  As I'm not a very proficient programmer, I would like to describe the
  problem, and get advice on how best to approach it.  Then I will
  describe what I've done so far, and maybe I've gotten close and folks
  can just tweak it a bit.  Thank you so much in advance for all of your
  great help.  This google group is by far the most helpful community I
  have ever seen.
 
  I am trying to create a TW site for preparing technical specification
  documents.  Each document could have 20+ sections (but not always the
  same sections).  I would like to start out with a standard document,
  and then make copies of each section as needed so I can edit it for a
  project without changing the standard set.  I would also like the
  ability to attach comments (separate from the edited section) that are
  searchable/accessible anytime I look at the standard section.  Hope
  this makes sense.
 
  Here is what I have tried already.  I have created a new tiddler for
  each standard section and tagged it StandardSection.  I have used
  Eric's copyTiddler for each of these sections, tagged it back to the
  standard section tiddler and tagged it to a compile tiddler for the
  document using matchTags.  So, using TagglyTagging, I can go to a
  standard section and see a list of project specific sections that
  relate to the standard, and comments related to those project specific
  sections.
 
  So, the question is, do you think this is a good approach?  Is there
  anything that would be better from a design perspective?  Also, one of
  the key features to make this work will be developing an easy way to
  copy and tag sections for a new document.  I have used ToggleTag to
  apply a new tag, but is there a way to have a list of tiddlers by one
  tag, and select an option box and copy all of those tiddlers and tag
  the new one?
 
  Thank you again.

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[tw] Re: Saving TW on a file server

2010-01-27 Thread zimtmaedchen
Thanks, Mark, for the input! Over-zealous sounds just about right.
There is a certain atmosphere of paranoia regarding all IT matters
around here... For the same reason I'd get into serious trouble for
using a tiddlyspot account, tempting as it may seem.
Has anyone in this group had to deal w/ similar problems?
Thanks,
Irina.

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[tw] Bibliographic Tool

2010-01-27 Thread alessio c
Hi

I was thinking to use tiddlywiki as bibliography database. I don't
think it would be difficult to export a bibtex file eventually.
My issue is that there is no tool to autopopulate bibliographic fields
(author, publisher, etc.) from the web. Tellico has such a good tool
and I am now used to import PDFs and Books data directly from google
scholar.

Do you think it would be possible to create a plugin that can search
and import references from google scholar?

Thanks!

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[tw] fET and matchtagplugin - boolean syntax question

2010-01-27 Thread Måns
Hi TwWizards

I have this expression (which works fine with matchtagplugin)
list filter [tag[A  ! (B OR C)]]
translates to: tiddlers tagged with A but not with B or C
So far so good - problems arise when I try to translate it into a fET
I tried:
1.
forEachTiddler
where 'tiddler.tags.contains[A  ! ($B ||$C)]'

and:
2.
forEachTiddler
where 'tiddler.tags.contains(A)  ! (B ||C)'

Both seem to work at some level - as they produce a result (end count)
Unfortunately, the result is not correct

Example: http://twmtc.tiddlyspot.com/#fET%26TT%26NS-List

Is it a basic syntax problem or isn't it possible to reproduce the
matchtags boolean expression in a fET?

YS Måns Mårtensson

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Re: [tw] Bibliographic Tool

2010-01-27 Thread Alex Hough
zotero is open source, uses js and python. perhaps there is something that
could be borrowed from there.


Alex
[1] http://zotero.org

2010/1/27 alessio c viandant...@gmail.com

 Hi

 I was thinking to use tiddlywiki as bibliography database. I don't
 think it would be difficult to export a bibtex file eventually.
 My issue is that there is no tool to autopopulate bibliographic fields
 (author, publisher, etc.) from the web. Tellico has such a good tool
 and I am now used to import PDFs and Books data directly from google
 scholar.

 Do you think it would be possible to create a plugin that can search
 and import references from google scholar?

 Thanks!

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[tw] Re: fET and matchtagplugin - boolean syntax question

2010-01-27 Thread cmari
Hi Måns,
You should be able to use:
forEachTiddler
where 'tiddler.tags.contains(item)  !tiddler.tags.containsAny
([$1,$2])'

cmari

On Jan 27, 8:40 am, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi TwWizards

 I have this expression (which works fine with matchtagplugin)
 list filter [tag[A  ! (B OR C)]]
 translates to: tiddlers tagged with A but not with B or C
 So far so good - problems arise when I try to translate it into a fET
 I tried:
 1.
 forEachTiddler
 where 'tiddler.tags.contains[A  ! ($B ||$C)]'

 and:
 2.
 forEachTiddler
 where 'tiddler.tags.contains(A)  ! (B ||C)'

 Both seem to work at some level - as they produce a result (end count)
 Unfortunately, the result is not correct

 Example:http://twmtc.tiddlyspot.com/#fET%26TT%26NS-List

 Is it a basic syntax problem or isn't it possible to reproduce the
 matchtags boolean expression in a fET?

 YS Måns Mårtensson

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[tw] Re: Document indexing and preparation

2010-01-27 Thread mOede
Thank you for the quick replies.

Alex, can you post a sample of the project you describe above?  I
think I would rather handle this natively, rather than through forms
and data handling.  I would like this to be a sort of knowledgebase,
and I think I will get more input from users if there isn't complex
data handling.  I'm hoping the utility of this project will be in it's
variability.

Thanks!
-mOede

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[tw] Re: fET and matchtagplugin - boolean syntax question

2010-01-27 Thread Måns
Thanks a lot cmari - It solved the problem.. -

Regards Måns Mårtensson

On 27 Jan., 16:42, cmari cema...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Måns,
 You should be able to use:
 forEachTiddler
 where 'tiddler.tags.contains(item)  !tiddler.tags.containsAny
 ([$1,$2])'

 cmari

 On Jan 27, 8:40 am, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote:



  Hi TwWizards

  I have this expression (which works fine with matchtagplugin)
  list filter [tag[A  ! (B OR C)]]
  translates to: tiddlers tagged with A but not with B or C
  So far so good - problems arise when I try to translate it into a fET
  I tried:
  1.
  forEachTiddler
  where 'tiddler.tags.contains[A  ! ($B ||$C)]'

  and:
  2.
  forEachTiddler
  where 'tiddler.tags.contains(A)  ! (B ||C)'

  Both seem to work at some level - as they produce a result (end count)
  Unfortunately, the result is not correct

  Example:http://twmtc.tiddlyspot.com/#fET%26TT%26NS-List

  Is it a basic syntax problem or isn't it possible to reproduce the
  matchtags boolean expression in a fET?

  YS Måns Mårtensson

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[tw] Re: Google Charts in TiddlyWiki - maybe a request for Tobias?

2010-01-27 Thread srk
Hello Måns and Tobias,

Would it be interesting to incorporate this?

http://www.maxb.net/scripts/jgcharts/include/demo/

Just found it on the web ..

Regards,
Steve Kirk

On Jan 25, 8:35 pm, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thank you for looking into it Tobias -  I had a hunch that it might
 one of those things you could/would elaborate on...

 Regards Måns Mårtensson

  I certainly find that to be a very neat idea. I'll have a look into
  that table conversion script and post back on how much work that seems
  to be, or the solution if there was a somewhat quick one.

  So far, that scriptbit of mine was a mere quick-shot (/
  playground)  ...a transclusion merely stitching together the google
  charts uri to then embed it via html output.

  Tobias.

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Re: [tw] Bibliographic Tool

2010-01-27 Thread alessio c
Uhm, I have seen it, it doesn't seem to have a google scholar look up.

I mean, I am looking for a java plugin that can do a query search on google
scholar, then show the results, then give the possibility to add the
selected row the the tiddler.

2010/1/27 Alex Hough r.a.ho...@googlemail.com

 zotero is open source, uses js and python. perhaps there is something that
 could be borrowed from there.


 Alex
 [1] http://zotero.org

 2010/1/27 alessio c viandant...@gmail.com

 Hi

 I was thinking to use tiddlywiki as bibliography database. I don't
 think it would be difficult to export a bibtex file eventually.
 My issue is that there is no tool to autopopulate bibliographic fields
 (author, publisher, etc.) from the web. Tellico has such a good tool
 and I am now used to import PDFs and Books data directly from google
 scholar.

 Do you think it would be possible to create a plugin that can search
 and import references from google scholar?

 Thanks!

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Re: [tw] Bibliographic Tool

2010-01-27 Thread alessio c
I've found this:
http://github.com/venthur/gscholar/blob/master/gscholar/gscholar.py

2010/1/27 alessio c viandant...@gmail.com

 Uhm, I have seen it, it doesn't seem to have a google scholar look up.

 I mean, I am looking for a java plugin that can do a query search on google
 scholar, then show the results, then give the possibility to add the
 selected row the the tiddler.

 2010/1/27 Alex Hough r.a.ho...@googlemail.com

 zotero is open source, uses js and python. perhaps there is something that
 could be borrowed from there.


 Alex
 [1] http://zotero.org

 2010/1/27 alessio c viandant...@gmail.com

 Hi

 I was thinking to use tiddlywiki as bibliography database. I don't
 think it would be difficult to export a bibtex file eventually.
 My issue is that there is no tool to autopopulate bibliographic fields
 (author, publisher, etc.) from the web. Tellico has such a good tool
 and I am now used to import PDFs and Books data directly from google
 scholar.

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 and import references from google scholar?

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[tw] Re: Document indexing and preparation

2010-01-27 Thread PMario
Hi mOede,
I have some pointers. Hope that may help you.

 I am trying to create a TW site for preparing technical specification
 documents.  Each document could have 20+ sections (but not always the
 same sections).  I would like to start out with a standard document,
 and then make copies of each section as needed so I can edit it for a
 project without changing the standard set.  I would also like the
As far as I understand looks like this:

tiddler: Project1
  - tiddler: Section 1 (standard)
  - tiddler: Section 2a (standard but modified for project 1)

Project2
  - Section 1 (standard)
  - Section 2 (standard)

...

 ability to attach comments (separate from the edited section) that are
 searchable/accessible anytime I look at the standard section.  Hope
 this makes sense.
yes. I think you have found NotesPlugin[1] and commentsPlugin[2]
allready.

==snip copyTiddler and matchTags from tiddlytools===
I have no experience with those.

 So, the question is, do you think this is a good approach?  Is there
 anything that would be better from a design perspective?  Also, one of
 the key features to make this work will be developing an easy way to
 copy and tag sections for a new document.  
I have an idea for this:

The TW core has the newTiddler macro which is part of SidebarTools
tiddler. It can be modified like this:

newTiddler
label:MyNewTiddler
tag:Tag1
tag:Tag2
title:YourTiddlerTitle
accessKey:
text:someTxt


To pimp it a little bit, use:

Title: option txtTitle
Tag1: option txtTag1
Tag2: option txtTag2

newTiddler
label:MyNewSection
tag:{{config.options.txtTag1}}
tag:{{config.options.txtTag2}}
title:{{config.options.txtTitle}}
accessKey:
text:{{store.getTiddlerText(PrototypeSectionOne)}}

Explanation:

Title .. Title of the new Tiddler(Section)
Tag1.. eg: Project1
Tag2.. eg: backreference to Prototype

option txtTitle generates an input field that can be used by any
macro code. It will be referenced by config.options.txtTitle. The
variable name has to be uniqe.

newTiddler .. calls the macro
  label:MyNewSection  .. labels the button
  tag:{{config.options.txtTag1}}  .. tags the tiddler eg:ProjectX
  tag:{{config.options.txtTag2}}  .. eg: backreference
  title:{{config.options.txtTitle}}  .. title of the new tiddler
  accessKey:  ..  doesn't work for me. firefox eats it
  text:{{store.getTiddlerText(PrototypeSectionOne)}}  .. reads the
content of the protoype Tiddler. This has to be adjusted according to
your needs.
 .. don't forget the macro closing !!
more details see [3]


If you copy the
newTiddler ...
sveral times 20+ you will have 20+buttons and 3 input filds
eg:
ProjectX: (aka: Tag1)
Tag: (aka Tag2)
Title: ..

Define the ProjectName, Tag and Title
Click the buttons.

I thing it will be pretty fast


regards Mario
[1] http://tw.lewcid.org/#TiddlerNotesPlugin
[2] http://plugins.tiddlywiki.org/plugins/search/?query=comment
[3] http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/NewTiddler_%28macro%29

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[tw] Re: Document indexing and preparation

2010-01-27 Thread PMario
Hi mOede,
I have some pointers. Hope that may help you.

 I am trying to create a TW site for preparing technical specification
 documents.  Each document could have 20+ sections (but not always the
 same sections).  I would like to start out with a standard document,
 and then make copies of each section as needed so I can edit it for a
 project without changing the standard set.  I would also like the

As far as I understand looks like this:

tiddler: Project1
  - tiddler: Section 1 (standard)
  - tiddler: Section 2a (standard but modified for project 1)

Project2
  - Section 1 (standard)
  - Section 2 (standard)

...

 ability to attach comments (separate from the edited section) that are
 searchable/accessible anytime I look at the standard section.  Hope
 this makes sense.

yes. I think you have found NotesPlugin[1] and commentsPlugin[2]
allready.

==snip copyTiddler and matchTags from tiddlytools===
I have no experience with those.

 So, the question is, do you think this is a good approach?  Is there
 anything that would be better from a design perspective?  Also, one of
 the key features to make this work will be developing an easy way to
 copy and tag sections for a new document.

I have an idea for this:

The TW core has the newTiddler macro which is part of SidebarTools
tiddler. It can be modified like this:

newTiddler
label:MyNewTiddler
tag:Tag1
tag:Tag2
title:YourTiddlerTitle
accessKey:
text:someTxt


To pimp it a little bit, use:

Title: option txtTitle
Tag1: option txtTag1
Tag2: option txtTag2

newTiddler
label:MyNewSection
tag:{{config.options.txtTag1}}
tag:{{config.options.txtTag2}}
title:{{config.options.txtTitle}}
accessKey:
text:{{store.getTiddlerText(PrototypeSectionOne)}}


Explanation:

Title .. Title of the new Tiddler(Section)
Tag1.. eg: Project1
Tag2.. eg: backreference to Prototype

option txtTitle generates an input field that can be used by any
macro code. It will be referenced by config.options.txtTitle. The
variable name has to be uniqe.

newTiddler .. calls the macro
  label:MyNewSection  .. labels the button
  tag:{{config.options.txtTag1}}  .. tags the tiddler eg:ProjectX
  tag:{{config.options.txtTag2}}  .. eg: backreference
  title:{{config.options.txtTitle}}  .. title of the new tiddler
  accessKey:  ..  doesn't work for me. firefox eats it
  text:{{store.getTiddlerText(PrototypeSectionOne)}}  .. reads the
content of the protoype Tiddler. This has to be adjusted according to
your needs.
 .. don't forget the macro closing !!

more details see [3]

If you copy the
newTiddler ...
sveral times 20+ you will have 20+buttons and 3 input filds
eg:
ProjectX: (aka: Tag1)
Tag: (aka Tag2)
Title: ..

Define the ProjectName, Tag and Title
Click the buttons.

I thing it will be pretty fast

regards Mario
[1] http://tw.lewcid.org/#TiddlerNotesPlugin
[2] http://plugins.tiddlywiki.org/plugins/search/?query=comment
[3] http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/NewTiddler_%28macro%29

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[tw] Re: Document indexing and preparation

2010-01-27 Thread PMario
Hi mOede,
I have some pointers. Hope that may help you.

 I am trying to create a TW site for preparing technical specification
 documents.  Each document could have 20+ sections (but not always the
 same sections).  I would like to start out with a standard document,
 and then make copies of each section as needed so I can edit it for a
 project without changing the standard set.  I would also like the

As far as I understand looks like this:

tiddler: Project1
  - tiddler: Section 1 (standard)
  - tiddler: Section 2a (standard but modified for project 1)

Project2
  - Section 1 (standard)
  - Section 2 (standard)

...

 ability to attach comments (separate from the edited section) that are
 searchable/accessible anytime I look at the standard section.  Hope
 this makes sense.

yes. I think you have found NotesPlugin[1] and commentsPlugin[2]
allready.

==snip copyTiddler and matchTags from tiddlytools===
I have no experience with those.

 So, the question is, do you think this is a good approach?  Is there
 anything that would be better from a design perspective?  Also, one of
 the key features to make this work will be developing an easy way to
 copy and tag sections for a new document.

I have an idea for this:

The TW core has the newTiddler macro which is part of SidebarTools
tiddler. It can be modified like this:

newTiddler
label:MyNewTiddler
tag:Tag1
tag:Tag2
title:YourTiddlerTitle
accessKey:
text:someTxt


To pimp it a little bit, use:

Title: option txtTitle
Tag1: option txtTag1
Tag2: option txtTag2

newTiddler
label:MyNewSection
tag:{{config.options.txtTag1}}
tag:{{config.options.txtTag2}}
title:{{config.options.txtTitle}}
accessKey:
text:{{store.getTiddlerText(PrototypeSectionOne)}}


Explanation:

Title .. Title of the new Tiddler(Section)
Tag1.. eg: Project1
Tag2.. eg: backreference to Prototype

option txtTitle generates an input field that can be used by any
macro code. It will be referenced by config.options.txtTitle. The
variable name has to be uniqe.

newTiddler .. calls the macro
  label:MyNewSection  .. labels the button
  tag:{{config.options.txtTag1}}  .. tags the tiddler eg:ProjectX
  tag:{{config.options.txtTag2}}  .. eg: backreference
  title:{{config.options.txtTitle}}  .. title of the new tiddler
  accessKey:  ..  doesn't work for me. firefox eats it
  text:{{store.getTiddlerText(PrototypeSectionOne)}}  .. reads the
content of the protoype Tiddler. This has to be adjusted according to
your needs.
 .. don't forget the macro closing !!

more details see [3]

If you copy the
newTiddler ...
sveral times 20+ you will have 20+buttons and 3 input filds
eg:
ProjectX: (aka: Tag1)
Tag: (aka Tag2)
Title: ..

Define the ProjectName, Tag and Title
Click the buttons.

I thing it will be pretty fast

regards Mario
[1] http://tw.lewcid.org/#TiddlerNotesPlugin
[2] http://plugins.tiddlywiki.org/plugins/search/?query=comment
[3] http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/NewTiddler_%28macro%29

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[tw] Re: Document indexing and preparation

2010-01-27 Thread PMario
Sorry for this multi post but the list seems to delete the macro
closing

newTiddler ..
..
..
 .. some text is not deleted.

-m

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Re: [tw] Bibliographic Tool

2010-01-27 Thread Alex Hough
Zotero is a firefox plugin.
If you do a scholar search you will be able to download all of the citations
by clicking on a button in the adress bar.

I'd recommend you check out Zotero.  You might save yourself a huge amount
of time.  JayFresh pointed out in a recent thread that sooner or later you
will have to use Word, and Zotero's cite while you type feature makes the
inclusion of bibliographic data a lot easier.

Also, if you are required to change bibliographic styles for different
contexts then Zotero will enable you to do this.



ALex



2010/1/27 alessio c viandant...@gmail.com

 Uhm, I have seen it, it doesn't seem to have a google scholar look up.

 I mean, I am looking for a java plugin that can do a query search on google
 scholar, then show the results, then give the possibility to add the
 selected row the the tiddler.

 2010/1/27 Alex Hough r.a.ho...@googlemail.com

 zotero is open source, uses js and python. perhaps there is something that
 could be borrowed from there.


 Alex
 [1] http://zotero.org

 2010/1/27 alessio c viandant...@gmail.com

 Hi

 I was thinking to use tiddlywiki as bibliography database. I don't
 think it would be difficult to export a bibtex file eventually.
 My issue is that there is no tool to autopopulate bibliographic fields
 (author, publisher, etc.) from the web. Tellico has such a good tool
 and I am now used to import PDFs and Books data directly from google
 scholar.

 Do you think it would be possible to create a plugin that can search
 and import references from google scholar?

 Thanks!

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[tw] Re: Shortening list by categorizing items

2010-01-27 Thread Måns
Hi Matias

I've made a few excursions simulating groupies in different ways
I've used matchtags and CheckboxToggleTag to add or remove grouptags:
tagname2 and/or tagname3
and I've added a fET which is used to render two lists one with
tiddlers tagged with tagname1 and grouptags: tagname2 and tagname3
and a list with tiddlers tagged with tagname1 and not grouptags:
tagname2 or tagname3.
TaggglyTagging is still applied for all individual results.
Every list is inside a nested slider..
To make quick proof of concept tests I've added formtiddlerplugin/
datatiddlerplugin to provide input of tagname1 (common to all) and
grouptags: tagname2 and tagname3... (needs refresh script)

Don't know if its usefull at all, however it was fun to assemble...

Link: : http://twmtc.tiddlyspot.com/#groupies

Regards Mårtensson


On 27 Jan., 02:55, twgrp matiasg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thank you so much Måns! Your coding taught me many valuable bits.

 I have reworked your code and put up the result 
 here;http://groupies.tiddlyspot.com/
 (username=password=groupies)

 (A smaller/simpler list-tool for few item lists is also there, i.e
 lists that don't require grouping.)

 However, there is still one major problem and that is the last part
 you mention above, suggesting MatchTags; I've experimented with that
 and a zillion other ways, but I can't get it to work. The output from
 matchtags does not seem to be in an appropriate format as input to a
 fET. I've also tried with fETs as parameter input to fET and loads
 of different combos. No cigar, as can be seen in the link above.. :-(

 I.e the problem is to, for fET parameter input, get all the tiddlers
 that are tags to Group tiddlers?

 Thank you again!

 On Jan 26, 2:32 am, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote:



  Hi again +|||tiddler [[fETTTNS##notCat]] with: [[category]]\\ 
  |f\n

  should have been with: [[item]] of course..
  And the list filter tag expression needs MatchtagsPlugin
  (TiddlyTools) to work as intended..

   A few minutes and I'll provide a testcase for you...

  I've made a minimal testcase for you, based on your first 
  example:http://twmtc.tiddlyspot.com/#fET%26TT%26NS

  You'll find the plugins in the timeline...

   Regards Måns Mårtensson

   On 26 Jan., 00:48, twgrp matiasg...@gmail.com wrote:

TagglyTagging is one of my all time favorite plugins, but it doesn't
quite fulfill what I'm asking for...  possibly due to a flaw;

tagglyTagging [[Tag1]] should (IMO), in group view, only list
tiddlers tagged Tag1. That is what is asked for when expressing
that macro call, as far as I can tell. But as it is now it also lists
*all other* tags that happen to appear in tiddlers that are tagged
Tag1. IMO this results in potentially long lists and information not
asked for.

Mike, I appreciate the suggestion though as I had, strangely enough,
not considered TagglyTagging. I'm doing some experimenting and will
get back.
Thank you.

On Jan 25, 2:41 am, Mike eris...@gmail.com wrote:

 sounds like a job for TagglyTaggingPlugin . . .

http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#TagglyTagging%20TagglyTaggingPlugin

 Looks like it will do what you are looking fo out of the box (unless I
 missed something)

 Good Luck,

 Mike

 On Jan 24, 7:30 pm, twgrp matiasg...@gmail.com wrote:

  I give up. Three days of mutilating scripts and forEachTiddlers etc,
  not to mention digging in the archives... but I just can't crack 
  this:

  I wish to create a list from tagged tiddlers like this (the format 
  is
  Tiddler:Tags)

  ItemB:Category
  - ItemM: ItemB
  - ItemN:ItemB
  ItemC:Category
  - ItemB:ItemC (+tagged Category as seen above)
  - ItemN:ItemC (+tagged ItemA as seen above)
  - ItemQ:ItemC
  ItemA (not tagged Category therefore ending up after all categories
  are listed)
  ItemP

  Alternatively, more real example;

  China:Category
  - Plate:China
  - Saucer:China
  KitchenStuff:Category
  - China:KitchenStuff (+Category)
  - Plate:KitchenStuff (+China)
  - Tray:KitchenStuff
  ArmChair
  Table

  In short, there are three types of tags
  1) Item (all are tagged with this, not shown in list above)
  2) Category
  3) names of 'Category tiddlers'

  Tagging items with non-Category-tiddler-names (e.g Plate or Table)
  affects nothing. However, items tagged with (2) or (3) appear ONLY 
  as
  a Category and/or as a sub-item, i.e not as a separate item also. 
  The
  idea is to shorten the list by categorizing things.

  Here untagged items come after categories, but it's ok if untagged
  items and categories are ordered together, i.e ItemA/ArmChair before
  ItemB/China above.

  For slick sub-levelling I intend to use ELS 
  NestedSlidersPlugin[1].
  This means that whatever is put between +++ and === becomes a
  sublevel.

  I really hope 

[tw] Re: Document indexing and preparation

2010-01-27 Thread PMario
uups. missed some refresh

Go for: http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#RefreshTiddler
and add it seen below. Then it should work.

Title: option txtTitle
Tag1: option txtTag1
Tag2: option txtTag2

tiddler RefreshTiddler with: Refresh!

newTiddler ...

regards Mario


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[tw] hijacking story.displayTiddler vs. setSelection (treeview or tiddlersbar + quickedit_split)

2010-01-27 Thread Mike
Reference old post:
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/605017bb6b52cf4d/adeddb5349e5da95?q=#adeddb5349e5da95

Just in my list of little things from 2009 that didn't get resolved.
Plugin Reference:
http://www.tiddlytools.com/
http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/VisualTW.html
http://twt-treeview.tiddlyspot.com/

If this is more of a DEV question let me know and I will post at that
group instead.

Quote: François D
QuickEdit_Split works fine when the TiddlersBarPlugin is turned off.
Maybe a problem when hijacking story.displayTiddler (in
TiddlersBarPlugin) or in setSelection (in QuickEdit) ?
The split script hangs just after having displayed the new tiddler,
just before setting the new text on the selection.

Any Ideas or suggestions as a work around?

Thanks,

Mike

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[tw] Re: Today's Date

2010-01-27 Thread Mike
Might look at this post for some guidance. . .
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/43498c5b85734edf/46d96c4818310291?lnk=gstq=open+tiddler+date#46d96c4818310291

Mike

On Jan 26, 6:53 pm, flyingpackman layne.pac...@gmail.com wrote:
 I need some help.
 This should be an easy one.

 I am working on a daily devotional wiki.  I have created a tiddler for
 each day of the year containing the reading assignment as well as a
 thought for the day.  I named them, January 1, January 2, etc.   Right
 now I have to navigate to the correct date.

 I would like to create a link called Today's Devotional.  It would
 link to the correct tiddler based on the current day of the month and
 the name of the month.

 Anyone know how to do this?

 Thanks

 LP

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[tw] Re: Today's Date

2010-01-27 Thread Mike
Key Information (ELS)
Try DatePlugin... (get it here:)
http://www.elsdesign.com/tiddlywiki/#DatePlugin

Macro:
date link today DDD, MMM DDth  DD MMM 
(Example may need to be tweaked)
date Today's Devotional today DDD, MMM DDth  MMM DD

Hope that gets you heading in the right direction (didn't actually try
the code myself. . .)

Mike

On Jan 27, 2:36 pm, Mike eris...@gmail.com wrote:
 Might look at this post for some guidance. . 
 .http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/43498c...

 Mike

 On Jan 26, 6:53 pm, flyingpackman layne.pac...@gmail.com wrote:

  I need some help.
  This should be an easy one.

  I am working on a daily devotional wiki.  I have created a tiddler for
  each day of the year containing the reading assignment as well as a
  thought for the day.  I named them, January 1, January 2, etc.   Right
  now I have to navigate to the correct date.

  I would like to create a link called Today's Devotional.  It would
  link to the correct tiddler based on the current day of the month and
  the name of the month.

  Anyone know how to do this?

  Thanks

  LP

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[tw] Re: Document indexing and preparation

2010-01-27 Thread Måns
Great stuff Mario - simple and powerfull!! Thanks for sharing.

regards Måns Mårtensson

On 27 Jan., 18:50, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi mOede,
 I have some pointers. Hope that may help you.

  I am trying to create a TW site for preparing technical specification
  documents.  Each document could have 20+ sections (but not always the
  same sections).  I would like to start out with a standard document,
  and then make copies of each section as needed so I can edit it for a
  project without changing the standard set.  I would also like the

 As far as I understand looks like this:

 tiddler: Project1
   - tiddler: Section 1 (standard)
   - tiddler: Section 2a (standard but modified for project 1)

 Project2
   - Section 1 (standard)
   - Section 2 (standard)

 ...

  ability to attach comments (separate from the edited section) that are
  searchable/accessible anytime I look at the standard section.  Hope
  this makes sense.

 yes. I think you have found NotesPlugin[1] and commentsPlugin[2]
 allready.

 ==snip copyTiddler and matchTags from tiddlytools===
 I have no experience with those.

  So, the question is, do you think this is a good approach?  Is there
  anything that would be better from a design perspective?  Also, one of
  the key features to make this work will be developing an easy way to
  copy and tag sections for a new document.

 I have an idea for this:

 The TW core has the newTiddler macro which is part of SidebarTools
 tiddler. It can be modified like this:

 newTiddler
         label:MyNewTiddler
         tag:Tag1
         tag:Tag2
         title:YourTiddlerTitle
         accessKey:
         text:someTxt



 To pimp it a little bit, use:

 Title: option txtTitle
 Tag1: option txtTag1
 Tag2: option txtTag2

 newTiddler
         label:MyNewSection
         tag:{{config.options.txtTag1}}
         tag:{{config.options.txtTag2}}
         title:{{config.options.txtTitle}}
         accessKey:
         text:{{store.getTiddlerText(PrototypeSectionOne)}}



 Explanation:

 Title .. Title of the new Tiddler(Section)
 Tag1.. eg: Project1
 Tag2.. eg: backreference to Prototype

 option txtTitle generates an input field that can be used by any
 macro code. It will be referenced by config.options.txtTitle. The
 variable name has to be uniqe.

 newTiddler .. calls the macro
   label:MyNewSection  .. labels the button
   tag:{{config.options.txtTag1}}  .. tags the tiddler eg:ProjectX
   tag:{{config.options.txtTag2}}  .. eg: backreference
   title:{{config.options.txtTitle}}  .. title of the new tiddler
   accessKey:  ..  doesn't work for me. firefox eats it
   text:{{store.getTiddlerText(PrototypeSectionOne)}}  .. reads the
 content of the protoype Tiddler. This has to be adjusted according to
 your needs.

  .. don't forget the macro closing !!

 more details see [3]

 If you copy the
 newTiddler ...
 sveral times 20+ you will have 20+buttons and 3 input filds
 eg:
 ProjectX: (aka: Tag1)
 Tag: (aka Tag2)
 Title: ..

 Define the ProjectName, Tag and Title
 Click the buttons.

 I thing it will be pretty fast

 regards Mario
 [1]http://tw.lewcid.org/#TiddlerNotesPlugin
 [2]http://plugins.tiddlywiki.org/plugins/search/?query=comment
 [3]http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/NewTiddler_%28macro%29

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[tw] Filter for input to a fET?

2010-01-27 Thread twgrp
I can't figure this out;

I want to filter out;
all tiddlers tagged with any of the tiddlernames B1,B2... that are
tagged with C
- or a concrete example -
all pupils tagged with any of the shools (B1...) that are located in
smallville (C).

Those tiddlers are to go in as parameter input to a forEachTiddler.
I.e;

forEachTiddler where  'tiddler.tags.containsAny(HERE)' ...

My pathetic attempts at putting a fET as argument to a fET did not
work and I've done some sad attempts with MatchTagsPlugin with no
result (I don't understand how to use it).

Maybe it's possible to store the filtered string... if it, in deed, is
a string... and somehow the appropriate format for fET... but how do I
store it and then call for it at the right place...?

I'd really appreciate any help.

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[tw] Re: Shortening list by categorizing items

2010-01-27 Thread twgrp
Seems we're taking different paths on this :-)

Here are my latest results
http://groupies.tiddlyspot.com/
(username=password=groupies)

I think it has a decent interface.
The one problem is still how to *not* list items that are tagged with
a grouptiddlers name
.
You mentioned MatchTagsPlugin and I can see that you're using it in
your version but it's a bit above my understanding.
For instance, in the following;
matchTags {{tiddler CheckboxToggleTag with: $2 [[$1]] %0\\
%0}} \n $2

...what is {{ ? Is it some kind of alternative parenthesis?
and what what comes out from the tiddler CheckboxToggleTag here?

Thank you!

On Jan 27, 7:24 pm, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Matias

 I've made a few excursions simulating groupies in different ways
 I've used matchtags and CheckboxToggleTag to add or remove grouptags:
 tagname2 and/or tagname3
 and I've added a fET which is used to render two lists one with
 tiddlers tagged with tagname1 and grouptags: tagname2 and tagname3
 and a list with tiddlers tagged with tagname1 and not grouptags:
 tagname2 or tagname3.
 TaggglyTagging is still applied for all individual results.
 Every list is inside a nested slider..
 To make quick proof of concept tests I've added formtiddlerplugin/
 datatiddlerplugin to provide input of tagname1 (common to all) and
 grouptags: tagname2 and tagname3... (needs refresh script)

 Don't know if its usefull at all, however it was fun to assemble...

 Link: :http://twmtc.tiddlyspot.com/#groupies

 Regards Mårtensson

 On 27 Jan., 02:55, twgrp matiasg...@gmail.com wrote:

  Thank you so much Måns! Your coding taught me many valuable bits.

  I have reworked your code and put up the result 
  here;http://groupies.tiddlyspot.com/
  (username=password=groupies)

  (A smaller/simpler list-tool for few item lists is also there, i.e
  lists that don't require grouping.)

  However, there is still one major problem and that is the last part
  you mention above, suggesting MatchTags; I've experimented with that
  and a zillion other ways, but I can't get it to work. The output from
  matchtags does not seem to be in an appropriate format as input to a
  fET. I've also tried with fETs as parameter input to fET and loads
  of different combos. No cigar, as can be seen in the link above.. :-(

  I.e the problem is to, for fET parameter input, get all the tiddlers
  that are tags to Group tiddlers?

  Thank you again!

  On Jan 26, 2:32 am, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote:

   Hi again +|||tiddler [[fETTTNS##notCat]] with: [[category]]\\ 
   |f\n

   should have been with: [[item]] of course..
   And the list filter tag expression needs MatchtagsPlugin
   (TiddlyTools) to work as intended..

A few minutes and I'll provide a testcase for you...

   I've made a minimal testcase for you, based on your first 
   example:http://twmtc.tiddlyspot.com/#fET%26TT%26NS

   You'll find the plugins in the timeline...

    Regards Måns Mårtensson

On 26 Jan., 00:48, twgrp matiasg...@gmail.com wrote:

 TagglyTagging is one of my all time favorite plugins, but it doesn't
 quite fulfill what I'm asking for...  possibly due to a flaw;

 tagglyTagging [[Tag1]] should (IMO), in group view, only list
 tiddlers tagged Tag1. That is what is asked for when expressing
 that macro call, as far as I can tell. But as it is now it also lists
 *all other* tags that happen to appear in tiddlers that are tagged
 Tag1. IMO this results in potentially long lists and information not
 asked for.

 Mike, I appreciate the suggestion though as I had, strangely enough,
 not considered TagglyTagging. I'm doing some experimenting and will
 get back.
 Thank you.

 On Jan 25, 2:41 am, Mike eris...@gmail.com wrote:

  sounds like a job for TagglyTaggingPlugin . . .

 http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#TagglyTagging%20TagglyTaggingPlugin

  Looks like it will do what you are looking fo out of the box 
  (unless I
  missed something)

  Good Luck,

  Mike

  On Jan 24, 7:30 pm, twgrp matiasg...@gmail.com wrote:

   I give up. Three days of mutilating scripts and forEachTiddlers 
   etc,
   not to mention digging in the archives... but I just can't crack 
   this:

   I wish to create a list from tagged tiddlers like this (the 
   format is
   Tiddler:Tags)

   ItemB:Category
   - ItemM: ItemB
   - ItemN:ItemB
   ItemC:Category
   - ItemB:ItemC (+tagged Category as seen above)
   - ItemN:ItemC (+tagged ItemA as seen above)
   - ItemQ:ItemC
   ItemA (not tagged Category therefore ending up after all 
   categories
   are listed)
   ItemP

   Alternatively, more real example;

   China:Category
   - Plate:China
   - Saucer:China
   KitchenStuff:Category
   - China:KitchenStuff (+Category)
   - Plate:KitchenStuff (+China)
   - Tray:KitchenStuff
   ArmChair
   Table

   In short, there are three types of 

[tw] Re: Document indexing and preparation

2010-01-27 Thread twgrp
On Jan 27, 11:58 am, Alex Hough r.a.ho...@googlemail.com wrote:
 i was wondering if the data and form plugins could use fields rather than
 the data being stored in the tiddler. ' ...

Very interesting.
But are there any plugins or simple ways for us mortals to store and
retrieve data from fields? I vaguely remember playing with fields in
the past through some ELS plugin, but I've forgotten which one and
what could be done.

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[tw] Re: hijacking story.displayTiddler vs. setSelection (treeview or tiddlersbar + quickedit_split)

2010-01-27 Thread Mike
Moving to TWDev Group
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywikidev/browse_thread/thread/6c9915261d6457b7

Any suggestions are still welcome !

Mike

On Jan 27, 1:55 pm, Mike eris...@gmail.com wrote:
 Reference old 
 post:http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/605017...

 Just in my list of little things from 2009 that didn't get resolved.
 Plugin 
 Reference:http://www.tiddlytools.com/http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/VisualTW.htmlhttp://twt-treeview.tiddlyspot.com/

 If this is more of a DEV question let me know and I will post at that
 group instead.

 Quote: François D
 QuickEdit_Split works fine when the TiddlersBarPlugin is turned off.
 Maybe a problem when hijacking story.displayTiddler (in
 TiddlersBarPlugin) or in setSelection (in QuickEdit) ?
 The split script hangs just after having displayed the new tiddler,
 just before setting the new text on the selection.

 Any Ideas or suggestions as a work around?

 Thanks,

 Mike

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[tw] Re: Document indexing and preparation

2010-01-27 Thread PMario
hi

On Jan 27, 11:31 pm, twgrp matiasg...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Jan 27, 11:58 am, Alex Hough r.a.ho...@googlemail.com wrote:

  i was wondering if the data and form plugins could use fields rather than
  the data being stored in the tiddler. ' ...

 Very interesting.
 But are there any plugins or simple ways for us mortals to store and
 retrieve data from fields?
If you have a short look at [3] 
http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/NewTiddler_%28macro%29
There is a fields parameter that can be used with the newTiddler
command.

fields:k1:v1 k2:v2

But I am not a big fan of hidden/meta information. If someone copies
a tiddler by hand, they will copy the text. 50% will copy the tag, 50%
wont and 100% will never ever find the fields parameter. In my
opinion, there is a 99% chance to push your support to full capacity.

Sorting by tags, reading from sections and slices is very powerfull,
less error-prone and much more visible. Just my opinion q:)

I vaguely remember playing with fields in
 the past through some ELS plugin, but I've forgotten which one and
 what could be done.

two links- that I played with
http://www.tiddlytools.com/#MatchTagsPluginInfo sorting by field
http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/VisualTW.html/#FieldsEditorPlugin

-regards Mario

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[tw] Apple iPad

2010-01-27 Thread AlanBCohen
I guess I'm the first to post that I'll be waiting to find out if TW
is fully functional on the iPad before I consider buying one.  I don't
know if the hardware/OS producers care, but TW has become one of the
items that are on my 'make or break' list for selecting hardware.
Until then, I'm staying with my 2yr. old Asus 701 4G.  I am, however,
looking into moving off the original Xandros to a newer and
supportable version of linux.  I know firefox and TW make a good pair.

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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyWiki for the Rest of Us

2010-01-27 Thread Eric Weir

On Jan 25, 2010, at 3:20 PM, Mike wrote:

 I can see you have posted about tiddlysnip, and people are working on
 the issue

Wouldn't an enhanced clipboard do the job? There a many good ones for OSX.

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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyWiki for the Rest of Us

2010-01-27 Thread Eric Weir

On Jan 26, 2010, at 12:17 PM, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 I remember at 19 finally
 figuring out to my own satisfaction what the purpose of life is - I
 decided it was to love, and be loved. Which is possibly a bit naive
 from some perspectives.

Yes, but they're the ones who're *really* naive. There isn't anything else that 
works. 

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[tw] Using save changes

2010-01-27 Thread Clay
Hello,

I am brand new to TW and I'm really impressed with the capabilities of
this tool!  As I am just getting started, I'm having a dumb new user
block here that looks like it should be really easy.  I downloaded the
empty TW to my hard drive.  I double-clicked to open it.  I created a
few tiddlers and played around with it.  Then I used the save
changes in the right menu to save it.  I was expecting to be prompted
for where it should be saved, and for a filename. Instead, it just
saved it back to empty.html.

How do I get it to save a new TW under a new name and to a folder that
I select?  I'm thinking of save as but that doesn't seem to be
available.  What am I missing?  I'm using Firefox on WinXP.

Thanks,
 Clay 

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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyWiki for the Rest of Us

2010-01-27 Thread Eric Weir

On Jan 26, 2010, at 12:50 PM, Måns wrote:

 Sorry for the loong message - and my bad english

Well, to make a metaphor out of your earlier comment, you could alway break it 
up into smaller pieces. And maybe, as in your earlier comment, the result would 
be something greater than the pieces, an insight that would've been missed the 
other way.

As for you bad english, you need to knock that off. There's nothing wrong 
with your English. Besides, my Danish, and imagine about everyone else's here 
except Morris, is zilch. 

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[tw] Re: Apple iPad

2010-01-27 Thread Mark S.
Not enough known yet, but it probably uses Safari, which needs java to
save TW. But preliminary reports are that it might not run Flash,
suggesting it also doesn't run Java. So presumably you could use it to
view your TW data, but would need to update it some other way.

Mark

On Jan 27, 5:11 pm, AlanBCohen alanbco...@gmail.com wrote:
 I guess I'm the first to post that I'll be waiting to find out if TW
 is fully functional on the iPad before I consider buying one.  I don't
 know if the hardware/OS producers care, but TW has become one of the
 items that are on my 'make or break' list for selecting hardware.
 Until then, I'm staying with my 2yr. old Asus 701 4G.  I am, however,
 looking into moving off the original Xandros to a newer and
 supportable version of linux.  I know firefox and TW make a good pair.

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[tw] Re: Today's Date

2010-01-27 Thread flyingpackman
Thanks,  I'll give it a try and let you know.

LP

On Jan 27, 1:43 pm, Mike eris...@gmail.com wrote:
 Key Information (ELS)
 Try DatePlugin... (get it 
 here:)http://www.elsdesign.com/tiddlywiki/#DatePlugin

 Macro:
 date link today DDD, MMM DDth  DD MMM 
 (Example may need to be tweaked)
 date Today's Devotional today DDD, MMM DDth  MMM DD

 Hope that gets you heading in the right direction (didn't actually try
 the code myself. . .)

 Mike

 On Jan 27, 2:36 pm, Mike eris...@gmail.com wrote:



  Might look at this post for some guidance. . 
  .http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/43498c...

  Mike

  On Jan 26, 6:53 pm, flyingpackman layne.pac...@gmail.com wrote:

   I need some help.
   This should be an easy one.

   I am working on a daily devotional wiki.  I have created a tiddler for
   each day of the year containing the reading assignment as well as a
   thought for the day.  I named them, January 1, January 2, etc.   Right
   now I have to navigate to the correct date.

   I would like to create a link called Today's Devotional.  It would
   link to the correct tiddler based on the current day of the month and
   the name of the month.

   Anyone know how to do this?

   Thanks

   LP

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[tw] Re: Filter for input to a fET?

2010-01-27 Thread cmari
I first thought that what you wanted was straight-forward:
forEachTiddler where 'tiddler.tags.containsAny([B1,B2,B3]) 
tiddler.tags.contains(C) ' 
But your question sounds more complicated.  Can you give some more
details about what you're trying to do?

More generally, you can see examples of things that can be done with
the where clause in fET here:
http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#WhereClauseExamples
cmari

On Jan 27, 4:13 pm, twgrp matiasg...@gmail.com wrote:
 I can't figure this out;

 I want to filter out;
 all tiddlers tagged with any of the tiddlernames B1,B2... that are
 tagged with C
 - or a concrete example -
 all pupils tagged with any of the shools (B1...) that are located in
 smallville (C).

 Those tiddlers are to go in as parameter input to a forEachTiddler.
 I.e;

 forEachTiddler where  'tiddler.tags.containsAny(HERE)' ...

 My pathetic attempts at putting a fET as argument to a fET did not
 work and I've done some sad attempts with MatchTagsPlugin with no
 result (I don't understand how to use it).

 Maybe it's possible to store the filtered string... if it, in deed, is
 a string... and somehow the appropriate format for fET... but how do I
 store it and then call for it at the right place...?

 I'd really appreciate any help.

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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyWiki and Firefox bring swap file to explosion

2010-01-27 Thread Anthony Muscio
I have found FireFox Portable a great way to keep all my customisations and
addons together and off my work computer. The truth however is I have lost
these customisations a few times fo no clear reason. It may be the loss of
files when the USB was not ejected correctly. I am now using google toolbars
bookmarks, dropbox (For my tiddlywiki) and a few other tools including a
virtualbox virtual windows XP and a USB Hard Disk to create a quite
sophisticated environment seperate from work but highly intergrated.

I did configure firefox to us a C: drive chach rather than the USB to
increase life of the USB device and for speed though the notes suggest not
having one at all is best.

Enjoy, TonyM


TonyM

If you have not found an easy way to do it with TiddlyWiki, you have missed
something.
www.tiddlywiki.com



On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 09:30, fsmaus fsm...@gmx.de wrote:

 Hey -- this was a very helpful hint. I downloaded Firefox Portable and
 it works perfect...

 The problem with www.tiddlywiki.com still persists when I use the
 local version of my Firefox browser. Also when using a different
 profile on the same computer. But that does not bother me too much,
 when I can use the portable version.

 Is Firefox Portable a good alternative to the local version? Not
 having lot's of experience on that it seems to me to have several
 advantages: portability and easy to do backups...

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