[tw] Putting info on formatting in edit mode

2011-01-20 Thread passingby
Tobi has done a very useful and clever thing at http://tbgtd.tiddlyspot.com/
by putting a 'info on formatting' button in the toolbar in edit mode
of tiddlers. How is it done? I could not find anything in EditTemplate.

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[tw] Re: inline style

2011-01-20 Thread Eric Shulman


On Jan 20, 3:31 pm, RA  wrote:
> What is the best way to render a box of certain height and width in
> pixels? I don't want to add a style definition to StyleSheet just for
> this box, but that is a possible solution, here's an example:
>
> {{width489px height464px{
> <>
> }}}

TiddlyWiki "inline CSS" syntax is:
  @@attribute:value;attr:val;...;attr:val;CONTENT@@

Thus, for your box:
   @@display:block;height:464px;width:489px;<>@@

enjoy,
-e

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[tw] Re: Proposal: Move http://tiddlywiki.org to TiddlySpace

2011-01-20 Thread HansWobbe
>
> If people have concerns, objections or encouragement, please post
> here. This is not a done deal, just a proposal, but the benefits seem
> a win:
>

I think its a good idea, especially given the "include" capabilities
of TiddlySpace. -- HansWobbe

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[tw] inline style

2011-01-20 Thread RA
What is the best way to render a box of certain height and width in
pixels? I don't want to add a style definition to StyleSheet just for
this box, but that is a possible solution, here's an example:

{{width489px height464px{
<>
}}}

As you see, the contents of the box have to be wikified so  won't do.
Also, I'd prefer if the scope of this style is limited to the tiddler.

Thanks
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[tw] displayTiddler() browser variation?

2011-01-20 Thread Kosmaton
Hello,

In an HTML context (PageTemplate tiddler) I have

try!

The intention is that clicking the link displays the SomeTiddler
tiddler. It works in Chrome. But in Firefox (3.6.13) and Opera it
results in a blank page that only reads "[object HTMLDivElement]",
with "javascript:story.displayTiddler(null,'SomeTiddler');" in the
address bar. In Opera when I then click on the go back button I
actually get the page as intended (SomeTiddler shown); not so in FF.

No idea what's going on here. Anyone? Thanks!

Kosmaton

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[tw] Re: Javascript to hide HTML lines containing an empty cell

2011-01-20 Thread whatever
Hi, Eric,
You're right, of course, it was a typo. I tried it again with the
correct function name, but still nothing. What's interesting is that I
know this function works, because I've used it in a tool I've made,
but there it's activated on click. Here, I need it to activate on load/
rendering of the tiddler.

w

On Jan 20, 9:32 pm, Eric Shulman  wrote:
> > if((document.getElementId('x9').innerHTML === '')) { //If a cell is
>
>    document.getElementId(...)
> is not the correct function name and I'm quite surprised you didn't
> get an error (i.e., "object doesn't support this property or method").
>
> The correct function name is:
>    document.getElementById(...)
>
> -e
> Eric Shulman
> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios

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[tw] Re: I am sure it's just a small change

2011-01-20 Thread axelm
That works great!!!

One more question:

How can I make this code:

< wrote:
> Hi axelm,
> What about:
> <     where 'tiddler != context.inTiddler &&
>            tiddler.tags.containsAll(context.inTiddler.tags)'
>
> (The sort().join("]]") approach doesn't seem to work for me - but
> perhaps you need it for some other reason?).
> cmari
>
> On Dec 30, 7:00 pm, Måns  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi axelm
>
> > > < > >      where 'tiddler != context.inTiddler &&
> > >             tiddler.tags.sort().join("]]") ==
> > > context.inTiddler.tags.sort().join("]]")'
> > > so that, instead of listing the tiddlers that have all the tags of the
> > > calling tiddler, to listing the tiddlers that have all the tags but
> > > could also have additional tags?
>
> > untested!
> > I would add "&& tiddler.tags.contains("SomeTag")"  to the formula ,
> > maybe just after "!= context.inTiddler" (without the outer 
> > qoutes...)http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#WhereClauseExamples
>
> > Cheers Måns Mårtensson

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[tw] Re: Force specific tiddler position

2011-01-20 Thread Eric Shulman
> And how can I use more than one argument in snapshot?  I need to use
> viewer and story in the id: element.

A 'snapshot' is simply a capture of the CSS+HTML generated by the
browser when specific TiddlyWiki content is rendered.  There is one
viewer per tiddler.  There is one story column per document,
containing multiple rendered tiddlers.

You can either snapshot the viewer element of a particular tiddler, or
the entire story.  There's no way to selectively snapshot the story
element, but omit *some* of the elements within it so that only the
'viewer' elements are captured.

-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios

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[tw] Re: Javascript to hide HTML lines containing an empty cell

2011-01-20 Thread Eric Shulman
> if((document.getElementId('x9').innerHTML === '')) { //If a cell is

   document.getElementId(...)
is not the correct function name and I'm quite surprised you didn't
get an error (i.e., "object doesn't support this property or method").

The correct function name is:
   document.getElementById(...)

-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios

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[tw] Re: Difficulty importing very old TiddlyWiki

2011-01-20 Thread Eric Shulman
> TiddlyWiki 1.2.12 by Jeremy Ruston, (jeremy [at] osmosoft [dot] com)
> Does anyone have any suggestion?

To import from ANY version of TiddlyWiki, you can use:
   http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#ImportTiddlersPlugin
   http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#ImportTiddlersPluginInfo

This plugin is the *original* TiddlyWiki importer (long before the
core even had a "backstage"!), and can import from ALL versions of
TiddlyWiki from TW1.2.x through current.  The plugin also offers
*tons* of additional interactive features that make importing tiddlers
much easier (e.g., multi-select listbox, one-click selections,
filtering, auto-tagging, and collision handling -- skip, merge, rename
or replace).  The plugin also generates an automatic 'history' of
import activities in [[ImportedTiddlers]], so you can keep track of
which tiddlers you imported and where they came from.

enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios

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[tw] Re: Javascript to hide HTML lines containing an empty cell

2011-01-20 Thread whatever
Hi!
I tried it in a separate empty document with just the following code:


if((document.getElementId('x9').innerHTML === '')) { //If a cell is
empty
document.getElementId('x7').style.display = 'none'; //Remove the line


Title

Subtitle1
test1
test2


Subtitle2
test3
test4




I even put the script after the table, but nothing happened.
w

On Jan 20, 3:47 pm, Julian Knight  wrote:
> Hi, not in a position to test code right now but I can see that the script
> is a little too simple.
>
> It would be better if you could put ID's on all of the rows and cells for a
> start, preferably numbered so row R01 would contain cells R01C01 and R01C02
> etc. That way you can easily id the row from a cell. Otherwise you will need
> to mess with XPaths which is probably more efficient but rather harder to
> get your head around.
>
> Then for each row, you will need to check if each of the cells is empty - in
> your example, of course, you'd only need to check the second cell on each
> row as the first is never empty. Keep count of the empty rows and if the
> final count is the same as the total number of rows, you can remove the
> table, otherwise remove the empty rows.
>
> Also, the code you have there will operate on EVERY table in your TW file,
> not something you really want. ID your tables or use a more complex search
> (using JQuery is easier for such things) to ensure that you have got the
> right table. Remember that any Javascript will operate on the whole document
> unless you tell it otherwise.
>
> Regards, Julian Knight

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[tw] Difficulty importing very old TiddlyWiki

2011-01-20 Thread acb
I see another post  which is similar to my situation, with no
resolution.

Using "view source" I see:

---
TiddlyWiki 1.2.12 by Jeremy Ruston, (jeremy [at] osmosoft [dot] com)

Published under a BSD open source license
Incorporating improvements by Isao Sonobe,
http://www-gauge.scphys.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~sonobe/OgreKit/OgreKitWiki.html

Copyright (c) Osmosoft Limited, 14 April 2005


Does anyone have any suggestion?

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[tw] Re: Force specific tiddler position

2011-01-20 Thread cornbread
And how can I use more than one argument in snapshot?  I need to use
viewer and story in the id: element.

http://www.tiddlytools.com/#SnapshotPluginInfo

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[tw] Force specific tiddler position

2011-01-20 Thread cornbread
Trying to create an app that creates emails from templates using
tiddlers and the snapshot tool.

I have two tiddlers (Email Opening and Email Closing) that I need to
open and stay at specific locations (order at the top and bottom).
That way, when I have them use the Snapshot macro, it creates a quick
and understandable email.

I can have them use that one plugin that you can click to drag around
the tiddlers, but I would like to make it automatic.

Can it be solved with header and footer that are always present?

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[tw] Re: Proposal: Move http://tiddlywiki.org to TiddlySpace

2011-01-20 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jan 20, 2:18 pm, Alex Hough  wrote:
> GIT as well? Every cool project is on there now. As a TW user who learns
> everything about web technology though TiddlyWiki would be great to learn
> about GIT as well.

Yup:
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywikidev/browse_thread/thread/9cb07c23178a03fb

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[tw] Re: run macro when TW loads?

2011-01-20 Thread Julian Knight
Correct me if I'm wrong but if you mark a tiddler with the systemConfig tag, 
doesn't that make it always run at load?

Just create a tiddler with an alert() and tag it then reload to check.

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[tw] Re: Any example of vertically filled fET tables ?

2011-01-20 Thread octw
Hi Udo,

You're back!

cheers,
octw

On 1月20日, 下午10時17分, Udo Borkowski 
wrote:
> Have a look at:
>
> http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#[[Create%20a%20table%20with%20one%20column%20per%20tiddler%20%28%22Vertical%20Report%22%29]]
>
> This is an example how to create "vertical reports" (i.e. tables with
> one column per tiddler) using the ForEachTiddlerPlugin.
>
> Udo
>
> On 20 Jan., 12:42, julien23  wrote:
>
> > Sorry but I don't manage to do anyting out of this...
>
> > Just to be more specific on my need :
>
> > I know how to make this table with FeT
>
> > |Tiddler|SectionA|SectionB|h
> > |Tiddler1|Text1A|Text1B|
> > |Tiddler2|Text2A|Text2B|
>
> > But I would like to transpose it like this
>
> > |Tiddler|Tiddler1|Tiddler2|h
> > |SectionA|Text1A|Text2A|
> > |SectionB|Text1B|Text2B|
>
> > If anyone could help...
>
> > On Dec 16 2010, 11:48 pm, Måns  wrote:
>
> > > Hi Julien23
>
> > > This might be of 
> > > interest:https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/9d2df...
>
> > > I made a little "fET-etude" from Eric's example:
> > > (http://tiddly.bplaced.net/#testcolumns)
> > > [[SomeTiddler]]
> > > /%
> > > !tasks
> > > 1. !Just for testing
> > > 1. < > > '(index < 5) ? "* [["+tiddler.title+"]]\n" : ""'>>
> > > 2. Another cell
> > > 2. < > > '(index>4) && (index<10)? "* [["+tiddler.title+"]]\n" : ""'>>
> > > 3. Yet another one
> > > 3. < > > '(index>9) && (index<15)? "* [["+tiddler.title+"]]\n" : ""'>>
> > > !end
> > > %/
> > >         var here=story.findContainingTiddler(place); if (!here)
> > > return;
> > >         var lines=store.getTiddlerText(here.getAttribute('tiddler')
> > > +'##tasks','').split('\n');
> > >         var out=[]; for (var i=0; i > >                 var c=parseInt(lines[i]); if (isNaN(c)) continue;
> > >                 out[c-1]=(out[c-1]?out[c-1]+'
':'') > > > +lines[i].replace(new RegExp(c+'\. '),''); > > >         } > > >         return '\n|'+out.join('|')+'|\n'; > > > > > > > Cheers Måns Mårtensson > > > > On 16 Dec., 21:02, julien23 wrote: > > > > > > Aren't they already? > > > > > I agree it is not as spécific as I though...  let's say "filled by > > > > columns" > > > > > > Nope - sorry, however Eric's TagGridPlugin and GridPlugin > > > > > I have been using them for a while but had to get rid of them because > > > > they were not configurable enough for me. > > > > See my posts : > > > > * Render a TagGridPlugin style table with values > > > > :http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/c8a689... > > > > * How to display a double entry table with FET or GridPlugin ? > > > > :http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/a5cedd... > > > > > Hope somebody else has been doing it... > > > > > On Dec 16, 7:43 pm, Måns wrote: > > > > > > Hi Julien23 > > > > > > > I often face tables that would render better if they were filled > > > > > >vertically. > > > > > > Aren't they already? > > > > > > > Do you have any examples using fET ? > > > > > > Nope - sorry, however Eric's TagGridPlugin and GridPlugin > > > > > (tiddlytools.com) > > > > > might be of interest, they provide horisontal tables/grids? > > > > > > Cheers Måns Mårtensson > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.

Re: [tw] Re: Proposal: Move http://tiddlywiki.org to TiddlySpace

2011-01-20 Thread FND
> It should be a showcase and example of excellence for TW. 
> [...]
> I don't see anything wrong in moving to tiddlyspace. If anything it
> shall rejuvenate the documentation process.

Indeed, such a move would be quite welcome for the reasons stated.

However, having been the primary/sole maintainer of tiddlywiki.org until
recently, I've learned that diligently tracking changes is important.
Granted, this might be more important to me than for others (OCD and
all), but it still seems essential in this case.

While I'm no fan of MediaWiki in general, its recent changes feed[1] has
proven extremely useful.

TiddlySpace/TiddlyWeb does not yet have adequate (IMO) facilities for
efficiently and effectively tracking changes in detail. While three's
some experimental support for diffs in TiddlyWeb feeds, in my experience
that's very rudimentary[2] at this point (for a variety of technical and
conceptual reasons).

Obviously such concerns can be dismissed for those not suffering from
control issues, paranoia and misanthropy... It won't affect me directly
anymore, so I'm just sharing my experience - for science.


-- F.


[1] http://tiddlywiki.org/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&feed=atom
[2] e.g. no guarantee that every single revision will show up, visual
presentation is far from ideal, no convenient undo/rollback

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[tw] Re: Javascript to hide HTML lines containing an empty cell

2011-01-20 Thread Julian Knight
Hi, not in a position to test code right now but I can see that the script 
is a little too simple.

It would be better if you could put ID's on all of the rows and cells for a 
start, preferably numbered so row R01 would contain cells R01C01 and R01C02 
etc. That way you can easily id the row from a cell. Otherwise you will need 
to mess with XPaths which is probably more efficient but rather harder to 
get your head around.

Then for each row, you will need to check if each of the cells is empty - in 
your example, of course, you'd only need to check the second cell on each 
row as the first is never empty. Keep count of the empty rows and if the 
final count is the same as the total number of rows, you can remove the 
table, otherwise remove the empty rows.

Also, the code you have there will operate on EVERY table in your TW file, 
not something you really want. ID your tables or use a more complex search 
(using JQuery is easier for such things) to ensure that you have got the 
right table. Remember that any Javascript will operate on the whole document 
unless you tell it otherwise.

Regards, Julian Knight

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Re: [tw] Re: Proposal: Move http://tiddlywiki.org to TiddlySpace

2011-01-20 Thread Alex Hough
+1 for the proposal.

best wishes

Alex
GIT as well? Every cool project is on there now. As a TW user who learns
everything about web technology though TiddlyWiki would be great to learn
about GIT as well.

On 20 January 2011 14:13, Julian Knight  wrote:

> I've always found it rather odd too. It should be a showcase and example of
> excellence for TW.
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[tw] Re: Proposal: Move http://tiddlywiki.org to TiddlySpace

2011-01-20 Thread passingby
I don't see anything wrong in moving to tiddlyspace. If anything it
shall rejuvenate the documentation process.

On Jan 20, 7:13 pm, Julian Knight  wrote:
> I've always found it rather odd too. It should be a showcase and example of
> excellence for TW.

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[tw] Re: Any example of vertically filled fET tables ?

2011-01-20 Thread Udo Borkowski
Have a look at:

http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#[[Create%20a%20table%20with%20one%20column%20per%20tiddler%20%28%22Vertical%20Report%22%29]]

This is an example how to create "vertical reports" (i.e. tables with
one column per tiddler) using the ForEachTiddlerPlugin.


Udo


On 20 Jan., 12:42, julien23  wrote:
> Sorry but I don't manage to do anyting out of this...
>
> Just to be more specific on my need :
>
> I know how to make this table with FeT
>
> |Tiddler|SectionA|SectionB|h
> |Tiddler1|Text1A|Text1B|
> |Tiddler2|Text2A|Text2B|
>
> But I would like to transpose it like this
>
> |Tiddler|Tiddler1|Tiddler2|h
> |SectionA|Text1A|Text2A|
> |SectionB|Text1B|Text2B|
>
> If anyone could help...
>
> On Dec 16 2010, 11:48 pm, Måns  wrote:
>
> > Hi Julien23
>
> > This might be of 
> > interest:https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/9d2df...
>
> > I made a little "fET-etude" from Eric's example:
> > (http://tiddly.bplaced.net/#testcolumns)
> > [[SomeTiddler]]
> > /%
> > !tasks
> > 1. !Just for testing
> > 1. < > '(index < 5) ? "* [["+tiddler.title+"]]\n" : ""'>>
> > 2. Another cell
> > 2. < > '(index>4) && (index<10)? "* [["+tiddler.title+"]]\n" : ""'>>
> > 3. Yet another one
> > 3. < > '(index>9) && (index<15)? "* [["+tiddler.title+"]]\n" : ""'>>
> > !end
> > %/
> >         var here=story.findContainingTiddler(place); if (!here)
> > return;
> >         var lines=store.getTiddlerText(here.getAttribute('tiddler')
> > +'##tasks','').split('\n');
> >         var out=[]; for (var i=0; i >                 var c=parseInt(lines[i]); if (isNaN(c)) continue;
> >                 out[c-1]=(out[c-1]?out[c-1]+'
':'') > > +lines[i].replace(new RegExp(c+'\. '),''); > >         } > >         return '\n|'+out.join('|')+'|\n'; > > > > > Cheers Måns Mårtensson > > > On 16 Dec., 21:02, julien23 wrote: > > > > > Aren't they already? > > > > I agree it is not as spécific as I though...  let's say "filled by > > > columns" > > > > > Nope - sorry, however Eric's TagGridPlugin and GridPlugin > > > > I have been using them for a while but had to get rid of them because > > > they were not configurable enough for me. > > > See my posts : > > > * Render a TagGridPlugin style table with values > > > :http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/c8a689... > > > * How to display a double entry table with FET or GridPlugin ? > > > :http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/a5cedd... > > > > Hope somebody else has been doing it... > > > > On Dec 16, 7:43 pm, Måns wrote: > > > > > Hi Julien23 > > > > > > I often face tables that would render better if they were filled > > > > >vertically. > > > > > Aren't they already? > > > > > > Do you have any examples using fET ? > > > > > Nope - sorry, however Eric's TagGridPlugin and GridPlugin > > > > (tiddlytools.com) > > > > might be of interest, they provide horisontal tables/grids? > > > > > Cheers Måns Mårtensson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.

[tw] Re: Proposal: Move http://tiddlywiki.org to TiddlySpace

2011-01-20 Thread Julian Knight
I've always found it rather odd too. It should be a showcase and example of 
excellence for TW.

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Re: [tw] Re: wikipedia is planning to delete tiddlywiki article?

2011-01-20 Thread Julian Knight
Maybe it's use in BT could be highlighted. I'm sure there must be some 
references.

Perhaps we could all start adding to a references section at the end of the 
article - or maybe in the comments page for now so that things can be kept 
tidy?

We should also link back to the TW Google groups and to related software 
such as the TWMobile/TWEdit iOS apps.

I'll take a look as well and see if there is anything that I can add or 
tidy.

Regards, Julian.

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Re: [tw] Re: wikipedia is planning to delete tiddlywiki article?

2011-01-20 Thread Alex Hough
A while ago -- if i remember right -- there were some researchers from a
French University looking for TiddlyWiki user stories. (Where they from
INSEAD?) . Does anyone know if they published anything, or are planning to?

In my experience, a academic refs please the Wikipedians.

Alex

On 20 January 2011 12:04, Paul Downey (psd)  wrote:

> I added a comment on the activity of development and this group:
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/TiddlyWiki
>
> which seems to have triggered the result "Keep" from an admin, and
> removal of the banner:
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/TiddlyWiki&action=history
>
> I'll put some effort into restructuring the page as suggested, and
> flag back here, but it would be helpful if others could also edit and
> improve the page, adding whatever citations they can find.
>
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[tw] Re: Proposal: Move http://tiddlywiki.org to TiddlySpace

2011-01-20 Thread colmjude
+1 for moving http://tiddlywiki.org to TiddlySpace

Agree that we should us the migration to refresh and improve the
content.
Also feel that it would make sense to use a strength of TiddlySpace
and separate out content in to different spaces.
In some instances where we thought we were lacking content/
documentation this has started to happen. The following spaces are
being worked on and include both TiddlyWiki and TiddlySpace content,
with it all being pulled together in docs.tiddlyspace.com:
tiddlywikidev.tiddlyspace.com
macros.tiddlyspace.com
shadowtiddlers.tiddlyspace.com
wikitext.tiddlyspace.com
faq.tiddlyspace.com

Cheers,

Colm

On Jan 20, 1:18 pm, chris.d...@gmail.com wrote:
> The wiki athttp://tiddlywiki.org/is MediaWiki, not TiddlyWiki. This
> has always been a bit of an embarassment. That wiki is also subject to
> spam that without constant attention can get a bit out of hand.
>
> When the wiki was created multi-user platforms for TiddlyWiki were a
> bit thin on the ground. Now, with TiddlyWeb and TiddlySpace there is
> an actively maintained multi-user platform that can easily support the
> documentary purposes of the wiki.
>
> So I'd like to propose that we being a process of migrating the
> content ofhttp://tiddlywiki.orgto a space or collection of spaces 
> onhttp://tiddlyspace.com/
>
> If people have concerns, objections or encouragement, please post
> here. This is not a done deal, just a proposal, but the benefits seem
> a win:
>
> * Using tiddly-dogfood for Tiddly things
> * TiddlySpace can be configured to allow members-only editing to
>    prevent spam.
> * The TiddlyWeb API underneath allowing multiple mode of editing,
>    reuse and mashing up.
>
> If as a group we decide to move forward with this proposal, then I
> would like to suggest the follow migration style: Rather than automate
> some process of copying all the content from the mediawiki server to
> TiddlySpace, I think it would be far better to move content by hand
> and piecemeal, leaving behind references to the new content and
> editing the content as it is put into the new system. This provides a
> structure upon which we can, as we do it, refresh all the content. And
> a refresh is badly needed.
>
> Thoughts?
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[tw] Proposal: Move http://tiddlywiki.org to TiddlySpace

2011-01-20 Thread chris . dent


The wiki at http://tiddlywiki.org/ is MediaWiki, not TiddlyWiki. This
has always been a bit of an embarassment. That wiki is also subject to
spam that without constant attention can get a bit out of hand.

When the wiki was created multi-user platforms for TiddlyWiki were a
bit thin on the ground. Now, with TiddlyWeb and TiddlySpace there is
an actively maintained multi-user platform that can easily support the
documentary purposes of the wiki.

So I'd like to propose that we being a process of migrating the
content of http://tiddlywiki.org to a space or collection of spaces on
http://tiddlyspace.com/

If people have concerns, objections or encouragement, please post
here. This is not a done deal, just a proposal, but the benefits seem
a win:

* Using tiddly-dogfood for Tiddly things
* TiddlySpace can be configured to allow members-only editing to
  prevent spam.
* The TiddlyWeb API underneath allowing multiple mode of editing,
  reuse and mashing up.

If as a group we decide to move forward with this proposal, then I
would like to suggest the follow migration style: Rather than automate
some process of copying all the content from the mediawiki server to
TiddlySpace, I think it would be far better to move content by hand
and piecemeal, leaving behind references to the new content and
editing the content as it is put into the new system. This provides a
structure upon which we can, as we do it, refresh all the content. And
a refresh is badly needed.

Thoughts?
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[tw] Re: wikipedia is planning to delete tiddlywiki article?

2011-01-20 Thread Paul Downey (psd)
I added a comment on the activity of development and this group:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/TiddlyWiki

which seems to have triggered the result "Keep" from an admin, and
removal of the banner:


http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/TiddlyWiki&action=history

I'll put some effort into restructuring the page as suggested, and
flag back here, but it would be helpful if others could also edit and
improve the page, adding whatever citations they can find.

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[tw] Re: Any example of vertically filled fET tables ?

2011-01-20 Thread julien23
Sorry but I don't manage to do anyting out of this...

Just to be more specific on my need :

I know how to make this table with FeT

|Tiddler|SectionA|SectionB|h
|Tiddler1|Text1A|Text1B|
|Tiddler2|Text2A|Text2B|

But I would like to transpose it like this

|Tiddler|Tiddler1|Tiddler2|h
|SectionA|Text1A|Text2A|
|SectionB|Text1B|Text2B|

If anyone could help...

On Dec 16 2010, 11:48 pm, Måns  wrote:
> Hi Julien23
>
> This might be of 
> interest:https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/9d2df...
>
> I made a little "fET-etude" from Eric's example:
> (http://tiddly.bplaced.net/#testcolumns)
> [[SomeTiddler]]
> /%
> !tasks
> 1. !Just for testing
> 1. < '(index < 5) ? "* [["+tiddler.title+"]]\n" : ""'>>
> 2. Another cell
> 2. < '(index>4) && (index<10)? "* [["+tiddler.title+"]]\n" : ""'>>
> 3. Yet another one
> 3. < '(index>9) && (index<15)? "* [["+tiddler.title+"]]\n" : ""'>>
> !end
> %/
>         var here=story.findContainingTiddler(place); if (!here)
> return;
>         var lines=store.getTiddlerText(here.getAttribute('tiddler')
> +'##tasks','').split('\n');
>         var out=[]; for (var i=0; i                 var c=parseInt(lines[i]); if (isNaN(c)) continue;
>                 out[c-1]=(out[c-1]?out[c-1]+'
':'') > +lines[i].replace(new RegExp(c+'\. '),''); >         } >         return '\n|'+out.join('|')+'|\n'; > > > Cheers Måns Mårtensson > > On 16 Dec., 21:02, julien23 wrote: > > > > Aren't they already? > > > I agree it is not as spécific as I though...  let's say "filled by > > columns" > > > > Nope - sorry, however Eric's TagGridPlugin and GridPlugin > > > I have been using them for a while but had to get rid of them because > > they were not configurable enough for me. > > See my posts : > > * Render a TagGridPlugin style table with values > > :http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/c8a689... > > * How to display a double entry table with FET or GridPlugin ? > > :http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/a5cedd... > > > Hope somebody else has been doing it... > > > On Dec 16, 7:43 pm, Måns wrote: > > > > Hi Julien23 > > > > > I often face tables that would render better if they were filled > > > >vertically. > > > > Aren't they already? > > > > > Do you have any examples using fET ? > > > > Nope - sorry, however Eric's TagGridPlugin and GridPlugin > > > (tiddlytools.com) > > > might be of interest, they provide horisontal tables/grids? > > > > Cheers Måns Mårtensson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.

[tw] Re: Hard coded options

2011-01-20 Thread PMario
config.options.txtBackupFolder="Backup"; //<-- see the quotes "Backup"

should work
-m
On Jan 20, 10:32 am, julien23  wrote:
> I get the "Error: ReferenceError: Backup is not defined" meanwhile the
> Backup folder does exist
>
> any idea ?
>
> On Jan 17, 10:54 pm, colmjude  wrote:
>
> > Hi Julien,
>
> > That should work but you will have to make sure that who ever you
> > distribute it to stores it in a directory that has a Backup sub-
> > directory.  Otherwise the user will get a, "Backup is not defined"
> > error message upon loading the TW.
>
> > Hope that helps,
>
> > Colm
>
> > On Jan 17, 9:14 pm, julien23  wrote:
>
> > > In order to distribute some TW to first time users I would like to
> > > have a few options "hardcoded"
>
> > > Could you please check if the method below is right ?
>
> > > Thanks
>
> > > [[z_configOptions]]
> > > tagged systemConfig
>
> > > //{{{
> > > config.options.chkShowRightSidebar= false;
> > > config.options.chkShowLeftSidebar= true;
>
> > > config.options.chkAutoSave=true;
> > > config.options.txtBackupFolder=Backup;
>
> > > config.options.txtFileDropDataLimit=10;
> > > //}}}

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[tw] Re: Hard coded options

2011-01-20 Thread julien23
I get the "Error: ReferenceError: Backup is not defined" meanwhile the
Backup folder does exist

any idea ?

On Jan 17, 10:54 pm, colmjude  wrote:
> Hi Julien,
>
> That should work but you will have to make sure that who ever you
> distribute it to stores it in a directory that has a Backup sub-
> directory.  Otherwise the user will get a, "Backup is not defined"
> error message upon loading the TW.
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Colm
>
> On Jan 17, 9:14 pm, julien23  wrote:
>
> > In order to distribute some TW to first time users I would like to
> > have a few options "hardcoded"
>
> > Could you please check if the method below is right ?
>
> > Thanks
>
> > [[z_configOptions]]
> > tagged systemConfig
>
> > //{{{
> > config.options.chkShowRightSidebar= false;
> > config.options.chkShowLeftSidebar= true;
>
> > config.options.chkAutoSave=true;
> > config.options.txtBackupFolder=Backup;
>
> > config.options.txtFileDropDataLimit=10;
> > //}}}

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[tw] Re: Preventing re-direct (browser plugin)

2011-01-20 Thread the_atomic_...@runbox.com
Thank you.  :)

On Jan 20, 3:19 am, Eric Shulman  wrote:
> http://www.tiddlytools.com/#ConfirmExitPlugin
>
> enjoy,
> -e
> Eric Shulman
> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios

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[tw] Re: Preventing re-direct (browser plugin)

2011-01-20 Thread Eric Shulman
> I've got the browser plugin for TW, and some pages force a redirect in
> that browser window, closing my TW.  It's not much of an issue when I
> have unsaved changes, as a dialog pops up asking if I want to stay on
> the page, however, due to browser instability, I like to have the
> autosave option checked.
>
> So yeah, as the title says, is there anyway to prevent a redirect even
> if the TW doesn't require saving?

http://www.tiddlytools.com/#ConfirmExitPlugin

enjoy,
-e
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TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios

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[tw] Preventing re-direct (browser plugin)

2011-01-20 Thread the_atomic_...@runbox.com
I've got the browser plugin for TW, and some pages force a redirect in
that browser window, closing my TW.  It's not much of an issue when I
have unsaved changes, as a dialog pops up asking if I want to stay on
the page, however, due to browser instability, I like to have the
autosave option checked.

So yeah, as the title says, is there anyway to prevent a redirect even
if the TW doesn't require saving?

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