[tw] Re: [tw5]list filter field !value question

2014-05-26 Thread Alberto Molina
Hi Måns, 

I looked at http://hitsang.tiddlyspot.com

It's cool. I'm impressed. 

Alberto

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Re: [tw] Re: FeT - For Each Tiddler Questions.

2014-05-26 Thread Eric Shulman
On Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:43:51 PM UTC-7, Jan wrote:

  I need this to generate a report giving out the value of the field 
 important in the the tiddlers which are Tiddlylinks in a StoryTiddler 
 created by Erics SaveStoryPlugin.
 If the links are:
 [[Tiddler1]]
 [[Tiddler2]]
 ...
 I want generate
 important@Tiddler1
 important@Tiddler2
 
  as wikified output


For some kinds of generated output, it's can be easier to write inline 
javascript code, rather than trying to shoehorn fragments of javascript 
into the ForEachTiddler macro syntax.  Here's the code for producing the 
output you desire, using
   http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#InlineJavascriptPlugin

script
var out=;
var tids=store.getTiddler(SomeStoryTiddler).getLinks();
if (tids.length) {
   out+=@@font-size:2em;[img(30px,)[Tag.png]] Denken an:\n; 
   for (var i=0; itids.length; i++)
  out+= Für [[+tids[i]+]]: +store.getValue(tids[i], 
important)+\n' 
   out+=@@;
}
return out;
/script

If you put the above script into a tiddler, e.g. [[ShowStoryStatus]], and 
replace 
   var tids=store.getTiddler(SomeStoryTiddler).getLinks();
with
   var tids=store.getTiddler($1).getLinks();

You can then invoke the script for any desired story tiddler by writing:
   tiddler ShowStoryStatus with: TiddlerTitleGoesHere

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki 5.0.11-beta

2014-05-26 Thread Julie
I also noticed the issue that Alberto reported :

- importing (a TW file via the button) - empty fields disappear
- drag and drop a single tiddler - empty fields are kept

Le lundi 26 mai 2014 00:05:02 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston a écrit :

 Hi Alberto

 Another thing I noticed when upgrading with both 5.0.11 and 5.0.12 is that 
 empty fields are removed (for instance in template tiddlers). Not a big 
 issue, but it's good to know.


 Thanks for the report. I haven't been able to reproduce this problem. I 
 tried:

 * Creating a new tiddler on tiddlywiki.com, adding a blank field called 
 test and clicking done
 * Dragging a link to that tiddler into another browser window loaded with 
 empty.html
 * Checking that the blank field survived the import

 Best wishes

 Jeremy

  


 Regards,

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[tw] Re: [tw5]list filter field !value question

2014-05-26 Thread Måns
Hi Alberto

I looked at 
http://hitsang.tiddlyspot.comhttp://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fhitsang.tiddlyspot.comsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNHNmHxCAWXgIenoNQWRjRr6vtpVhw
 

 It's cool. I'm impressed. 


Thanks. Glad you like it. :-)

I wonder - do you know how I would hide columns in the (invisible) table 
depending on if there's a value for the field used to show text, when 
hitting a button?

I will use a skeleton for creating new tiddlers wich has predefined empty 
fields (1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6) . If a field is empty I would like to hide the 
corresponding column - and the button in it... 

Maybe it will work If I wrap a tdbutton//td  in  $list 
filter=[!fieldname[empty/no text value]]/ 
like this: $list filter=[tag[sang]!1[]]td$button$view 
field=1//$button/td/$list  ??

I assume that you do things like that (hide elements based on whether there 
are named fields and/or field values) in your Tesis tw5 on TiddlySpot?

Cheers Måns Mårtensson
 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Newbie: Line-break question

2014-05-26 Thread Kolya
Have to agree. 

There's a standard how webeditors handle linebreaks. Heck, this editor I'm 
writing this reply in uses the standard. 
But TiddlyWiki needs to invent its own? Is there any good reason for this?

Kolya


On Monday, 5 May 2014 11:37:49 UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:

 There is nothing wrong. 
 It is just ugly.

 It is not just add the tag. HTML tags are not supported currently.

 El domingo, 4 de mayo de 2014 11:53:23 UTC-7, Ton Gerner escribió:

 Hi Danielo,

 What's wrong with br?
 Add it to your keyboard shortcuts plugin.

 Cheers,

 Ton

 On Sunday, May 4, 2014 8:08:56 PM UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:

 This could be little pain in the ass. Specially for technical documents. 
 Sometimes you want a line break but not a new paragraph. 



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[tw] Re: [tw5]list filter field !value question

2014-05-26 Thread Måns
Hi Alberto

Maybe it will work If I wrap a tdbutton//td  in  $list 
 filter=[!fieldname[empty/no text value]]/ 
 like this: $list filter=[tag[sang]!1[]]td$button$view 
 field=1//$button/td/$list  ??


It actually worked :-D 

I had to insert is[current] in every list definition to make the template 
work pr. tiddler as it should.

I still need to be able to set different states on the buttons - or else I 
can't have several sentences open at the same time. 
Accidentally showing the contents of buttons in other quizzes would not be 
good - unless you want to finish the quiz very quickly - of course ...

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Newbie: Line-break question

2014-05-26 Thread Ton Gerner
Hi Kolya,

See https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/443

Cheers,

Ton

On Monday, May 26, 2014 4:10:56 PM UTC+2, Kolya wrote:

 Have to agree. 

 There's a standard how webeditors handle linebreaks. Heck, this editor I'm 
 writing this reply in uses the standard. 
 But TiddlyWiki needs to invent its own? Is there any good reason for this?

 Kolya


 On Monday, 5 May 2014 11:37:49 UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:

 There is nothing wrong. 
 It is just ugly.

 It is not just add the tag. HTML tags are not supported currently.

 El domingo, 4 de mayo de 2014 11:53:23 UTC-7, Ton Gerner escribió:

 Hi Danielo,

 What's wrong with br?
 Add it to your keyboard shortcuts plugin.

 Cheers,

 Ton

 On Sunday, May 4, 2014 8:08:56 PM UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:

 This could be little pain in the ass. Specially for technical 
 documents. Sometimes you want a line break but not a new paragraph. 



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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki 5.0.11-beta

2014-05-26 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Thanks Julie and Alberto, the issue with importing blank fields is fixed
for 5.0.13:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/86d182fd51e6935ec8f2c3bc73ff1a16c23b3600

Best wishes

Jeremy



On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Julie julie.strzele...@gmail.com wrote:

 I also noticed the issue that Alberto reported :

 - importing (a TW file via the button) - empty fields disappear
 - drag and drop a single tiddler - empty fields are kept

 Le lundi 26 mai 2014 00:05:02 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston a écrit :

 Hi Alberto

 Another thing I noticed when upgrading with both 5.0.11 and 5.0.12 is
 that empty fields are removed (for instance in template tiddlers). Not a
 big issue, but it's good to know.


 Thanks for the report. I haven't been able to reproduce this problem. I
 tried:

 * Creating a new tiddler on tiddlywiki.com, adding a blank field called
 test and clicking done
 * Dragging a link to that tiddler into another browser window loaded with
 empty.html
 * Checking that the blank field survived the import

 Best wishes

 Jeremy




 Regards,

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[tw] Re: A View Mode Editor and a simple Calcualtor

2014-05-26 Thread Yakov
Hi Vincent

суббота, 24 мая 2014 г., 7:09:16 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh написал:

  

 2. Lists
  

 2.2 Changing of the list order is rather slow


 Hmmm, I just noticed in my 
 examplehttp://twve.tiddlyspot.com/#%5B%5Btwve--Example--List%20Items%5D%5Dthat
  *it 
 caused an infinite loop when I tried to move down the last item*, but 
 worked quite smoothly in other cases, even when moving up the very first 
 one (well, you may get strange results but that's how TiddlyWiki renders 
 lists, not the *twve*). Are you saying it is slow in general, or just 
 cases similar to what I mentioned? If it is general then I would guess it's 
 some interference with other plugins.
  

Well, no, for me (in FF/Opera) in a list as simple as
* one
* two
* three
moving the first or the second item down takes 3-4 seconds (even if that's 
the only open tiddler).
 


 3. Tables (haven't made consistent testing yet)
 3.1 Multiline cells interact in an incorrect way with the following text. 
 To understand what I mean, try this in a tiddler:
 |text text text text text text text text text text text text text text 
 text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text 
 text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text 
 text text long enough to be multiline|
 text


 Hmmm, this is odd. I shall take a deep look into the codes...
 By the way, you can put multi-lined content, such as lists, blockquotes, 
 etc., in a table cell, as shown in this 
 examplehttp://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Ftwve.tiddlyspot.com%2F%23%255B%255Btwve.table--Example--Multi-lined%2520Content%255D%255Dsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNHRDJj3LajUiX23uoX2QWSugTP3wg
 .


Looks cool, but here's an important point: this feature is a change in 
representation (while the whole twve plugins are about making *editing*easier), 
so if it's possible, I would like to have a small plugin that 
makes tables format multiline content -- so that in a public TW I could use 
that plugin without any inline editing stuff.

  

 3.2 Inline editing (at least adding/removing colomns) seem to remove 
 additional classes. Say, I have a borderless table
 |borderless|k
 |text|
 After I add a new colomn, the table becomes with borders (it is ok for 
 edit mode, but in view mode I would like to have my CSS applied). The 
 |borderless|k part is not removed, if the tiddler is reopened, the 
 borders are gone again.
 CSS here is
 .borderless, .borderless tr, .borderless th, .borderless td { border: none 
 !important; }
 Note the !important part: without it, the stying is not applied at all -- 
 I would consider this as a bug, too.


 This I really have no idea. The *twve* does not do anything about styles 
 because I have very limited knowledge about CSS statements. If that is a 
 bug in *twve*, that must be due to the nothing be done about styles. In 
 that case it may take a long time to fix...
  

Ouch. I wanted to check if the DOM classes are removed, but the bug is no 
longer reproducible.. Let's forget about it until I can reproduce it again.

However, the need to add the !important part to CSS stays.

Ok, let's go further.

3.3 2 tables bug: in a tiddler as simple as
|cell1|
text
|cell2|
try to edit any of the two one-cell-talbes: for me, when trying to edit the 
first one, the cell2 text is displayed (and if I apply the changes, they 
are stored in the first table), and if I try to edit the second one, empty 
text is displayed.

3.4 the width of the cells is still not adequate: if Minimum cell width in 
characters. option is set to 0, the width is still bigger than the 
content is, and extra padding on the right is added

3.5 the speed of colomn moving is so-so and seem to depend on the history 
of moving: consider this tiddler:
Start with text
|a|b|c|
|d|e|f|
|g|i|j|
end with text
moving the first colomn to the left (or the second to the right) takes 
about 1 second; if I move that colomn back, it takes 2-3 seconds (tested in 
FF)

3.6 tables with several missing cells behave in a tricky way: if I create 
this table
|a|b|c|
|d|
and try to edit the bottom-left cell, it opens for editing and then shows 
the table as thought as it is edited in a right way (the bottom-left cell 
is now with content). However, if I open the tw code, I see
|a|b|c|
|d|f|
instead of
|a|b|c|
|d||f|
and reloading the tiddler shows incorrectly edited table (the bottom-center 
cell is filled with the text).

4. Transclusions (not finished)
4.1 inserting sections causes and error: if I create a tiddler New Tiddler 
to include with the text
!section
Type the text for 'New Tiddler'
and another tiddler with this text:
tiddler [[New Tiddler to include##section]]
I see the line
Type the text for 'New Tiddler'
but in its end, there's Error in macro tiddler telling me TypeError: 
b.$dom is null

4.2 Also, in this case refreshing doesn't work correctly: if I change the 
text of the section while the transcluding tiddler is open, the text is not 
altered in the transclusion.

n. 

Re: [tw] Last call - anyone want tiddlywikiguides.org?

2014-05-26 Thread Andreas Hahn

Hi Daniel,

I am currently thinking about this, can you tell me when those few 
days will be over ?


/Andreas


Am 26.05.2014 01:15, schrieb Daniel Baird:


Hi all,

In a few days my domain tiddlywikiguides.org 
http://tiddlywikiguides.org will expire.  I don't have time or 
budget to maintain it, so I'm willing to transfer it to anyone who 
wants to have it.


I've mentioned this before on the dev and docs groups; here's my 
once-only post to the main TW list.


tiddlywikiguides.org http://tiddlywikiguides.org used to run a 
mediawiki instance that collected docs for TiddlyWiki, back when the 
classic version was the only version.  Most of that content has been 
moved into the tiddlyspace docs section.


I'd like to see it at least redirected to tiddlywiki.com 
http://tiddlywiki.com or somewhere like that, but if you want to 
make something fancier out of it, that's cool too.


Otherwise it'll just expire and probably get bought up by some jerk 
domain spammer.



Post back here if you're interested..


Cheers
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Re: [tw] Re: Change default behavior to recognize single line breaks

2014-05-26 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Chashaku

The current behaviour follows standard MarkDown. There is a ticket for
adding support for GitHub Flavoured MarkDown, a variant dialect of MarkDown
that supports single line breaks as hard line breaks:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/443

My plan is to fix this as part of an upcoming round of changes to the
parsing infrastructure, perhaps for 5.0.13 or 5.0.14.

Best wishes

Jeremy


On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 7:08 PM, chishaku jewa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Forgot to mention that I'm using TW5.


 On Friday, May 23, 2014 2:05:32 PM UTC-4, chishaku wrote:

 Hi all,

 Is it possible to change the default behavior to recognize single line
 breaks?

 I know that I can use the  ...  syntax for hard line breaks in
 wikitext but if possible, I'd like to reverse the behavior so that single
 line breaks are recognized by default and perhaps I could use the  ...
  syntax to ignore single line breaks.

 Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

 Jeff

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Correct way of using substories

2014-05-26 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Shash

I'm not sure that I understand what you are trying to accomplish. Are you
aiming to show a list of links where the target tiddler opens immediately
below each link? If so, I think you'd be better off using the button and
reveal widgets to show or hide a transclusion of the target tiddler.

Best wishes

Jeremy




On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Shash skmurth...@gmail.com wrote:

 Any suggestions for this please.


 On Thursday, May 22, 2014 8:23:59 PM UTC+5:30, Shash wrote:

 Hello All,

 I am trying to incorporate substories into my tiddler. What I am trying
 to do is create links which are tagged for A (for example) using list
 filter and whenever anyone clicks on the particular link the substory needs
 to open below the link.  I my trying to do something like the below.

 $navigator story=MySubStoryList history=MySubHistoryList


 $list filter=[!has[draft.of]tag[A]sort[created]]


 *$link to={{!!title}}b$view field=title//b/$link


 $list filter=[list[MySubStoryList]] history=MySubHistoryList


 div


 ! $button message=tw-close-tiddler class=btn-invisible{{$:/
 core/images/close-button}}/$button $view field=title/


 $transclude/
 /div
 /$list


 /$navigator



 But I am not getting the result as intended. Can someone please help me
 in sorting this one out. Thanks!

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Re: [tw] Re: listselect widget no longer working for me in 5.0.12-beta

2014-05-26 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Daniel

 BJ: What are the changes to filterTiddlers()? How can this be fixed?

The major change in 5.0.12 was here:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/385c7e207cb82ad5dd50382ba71da3328dbdfbbc

The second argument of wiki.filterTiddlers() was previously the value of
the currentTiddler variable. Now a widget must be passed, allowing the
filter mechanism to retrieve the currentTiddler or any other variable.

Best wishes

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On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Daniel Diggens 
ddiggens.forsakringsradgiv...@trygghansa.se wrote:

 I also want to use Stephan Hradeks Listselect widget in tw 5.0.12-beta.
 http://tiddlystuff.tiddlyspot.com/

 Stephan, if you see this, could you update your widget?

 BJ: What are the changes to filterTiddlers()? How can this be fixed?


 Daniel

 23 maj 2014 kl. 05:42 skrev Michael Wiktowy mwikt...@gmail.com:

 It is one of Stephan Hradek's excellent plugins found at
 http://tiddlystuff.tiddlyspot.com/

 I have been using newtiddler and listselect but I guess listselect has not
 been updated for 5.0.12. I had similar functionality kludged together using
 radio lists so possibly I will just go back to that so that I am closer to
 the core functionality.

 /Mike

 On Thursday, May 22, 2014 5:48:46 PM UTC-4, BJ wrote:

 Hi Michael,
 there is change to the javascript function filterTiddlers() in tw core
 version 5.12 - thus all  widgets that uses this function must be modifled
 (it a  very small thing). What is the listwidget plugin?
 BJ

 On Thursday, May 22, 2014 7:55:05 AM UTC+1, Michael Wiktowy wrote:

 Hello,

 I would love to upgrade from 5.0.10-beta, but as soon as I import the
 listwidget plugin or something containing that plugin (like my old version
 of my TiddlyWiki), I get a stream of javascript errors in big threatening
 red boxes whenever it try to do something:

 Internal JavaScript Error
 Well, this is embarrassing. It is recommended that you restart
 TiddlyWiki by refreshing your browser
 TypeError: widget.getVariable is not a function


 And I get Undefined widget 'listselect' in the locations where I use
 it even if I manage to save the Tiddlywiki and reload it.

 Is anyone else seeing this?

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Re: [tw] Request for all TW shortcuts to be published in Tiddlywiki.com

2014-05-26 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Keyboard shortcut support in TW5 is actually pretty slim at the moment: we
support control-enter as a shortcut for saving changes to a tiddler, and
escape as a shortcut for abandoning changes to a tiddler. I've added some
docs for 5.0.13:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/ecbda326cb70dad22367748a66221e9487d6cc7c

Best wishes

Jeremy



On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Shash skmurth...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yup. Meant keyboard shortcuts.

 Shash


 On Friday, May 23, 2014 9:46:26 AM UTC+5:30, Daniel Baird wrote:


 Keyboard shortcuts?


 On 23 May 2014 00:29, Shash skmur...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Jeremy,

 I tried finding out shortcuts for TW in tiddywiki.com. I am not able to
 find the same. Can you please publish all the TW shortcuts provided by the
 core functionality of TW in tiddlywiki.com as this could become a good
 reference to start with. Thanks!

 Regards
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Re: [tw] Re: TW5: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services?

2014-05-26 Thread Yakov
Hi Russ,

if TW API knowledge is the only obstacle to making a plugin using vextab, 
I'll help you with the API with pleasure; but this applies to TW Classic 
only, unfortunately.

Best regards,
Yakov.

суббота, 24 мая 2014 г., 18:54:49 UTC+4 пользователь Russ написал:

 Hi Mans

 I found vextab (and have been following the developer's tweets) a long 
 time ago.  Sadly, I haven't kept up with it from the point of view of 
 reusing it embedded elsewhere (like TW).  I did try around three years ago 
 but didn't get very far... my TW coding skills (read: API knowledge) are 
 thin to say the least.

 Somewhere grin I have some more related links... I'll try to dig them 
 out and if they're still good/relevant I'll post again.

 Russ


 On 22 May 2014 17:04, Måns huma...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:

 seems to be something which could be easily made into a TW5 plugin as all 
 it needs is Html5, Canvas and Raphael...

 See: http://www.vexflow.com/docs/tutorial.html

 I'd love to see that happen - is there a musical programmer/developer 
 who'd like to turn TW5 into a standalone musical notebook?

 Thank you for sharing Russ :-)

 Cheers Måns Mårtensson

 Den torsdag den 22. maj 2014 23.56.06 UTC+2 skrev Måns:

 Hi Russ

 Have you seen 
 http://www.vexflow.com/http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vexflow.com%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNHRWIHpWVf9zzpk56UpTRW88gDRhg?
   When you're there, check out vextab, also.


 Nope - I didn't know about it - it seems to render very nice looking 
 musical notation without the need of external libraries! 
 Very nice :-)

 I wouldn't know how to implement it in TiddlyWiki though...

 This : http://www.vexflow.com/vextab/tutorial.html   

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Problem with Wizard

2014-05-26 Thread Jeremy Ruston
The problem with not being able to dismiss tall modal dialogues was a
regression. I've fixed it by making them scrollable again:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/128ad01866077d71ea8045095b6f1bba93aa4554

I agree that lightbox semantics would be useful. I would like to update the
modal mechanism to make it be based on a story overlay, like the more
recently added alert mechanism.

Best wishes

Jeremy



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 On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 1:20:33 AM UTC+2, Måns wrote:

 The modal wizard popup looks very similar to a lightbox.

 When you have an open lightbox the usual behaviour is that if you click
 outside it (or press ESC) it will close - or you will be able to scroll to
 see the content..


 IMO the requst here should be, that there should be a lightbox widget,
 which behaves like a lightbox.

 A wizard should not be closed, if you click outside its window, because
 that's not its purpose. The only way to close a wizard imo should be a yes
 / no or apply / do nothing  decision. (The inability to close a wizard
 at all, is a bug)

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services?

2014-05-26 Thread Jeremy Ruston
The API of VexTab is nice and flexible and would be particularly easy to
turn into a TW5 widget.

There's a TiddlyWiki hangout due tomorrow at 4pm BST, if any interested
parties would be able to show up I'd be happy to talk you through what
would be involved.

Best wishes

Jeremy.



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 Hi Russ,

 if TW API knowledge is the only obstacle to making a plugin using vextab,
 I'll help you with the API with pleasure; but this applies to TW Classic
 only, unfortunately.

 Best regards,
 Yakov.

 суббота, 24 мая 2014 г., 18:54:49 UTC+4 пользователь Russ написал:

 Hi Mans

 I found vextab (and have been following the developer's tweets) a long
 time ago.  Sadly, I haven't kept up with it from the point of view of
 reusing it embedded elsewhere (like TW).  I did try around three years ago
 but didn't get very far... my TW coding skills (read: API knowledge) are
 thin to say the least.

 Somewhere grin I have some more related links... I'll try to dig them
 out and if they're still good/relevant I'll post again.

 Russ


 On 22 May 2014 17:04, Måns huma...@gmail.com wrote:

 seems to be something which could be easily made into a TW5 plugin as
 all it needs is Html5, Canvas and Raphael...

 See: http://www.vexflow.com/docs/tutorial.html

 I'd love to see that happen - is there a musical programmer/developer
 who'd like to turn TW5 into a standalone musical notebook?

 Thank you for sharing Russ :-)

 Cheers Måns Mårtensson

 Den torsdag den 22. maj 2014 23.56.06 UTC+2 skrev Måns:

 Hi Russ

 Have you seen 
 http://www.vexflow.com/http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vexflow.com%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNHRWIHpWVf9zzpk56UpTRW88gDRhg?
   When you're there, check out vextab, also.


 Nope - I didn't know about it - it seems to render very nice looking
 musical notation without the need of external libraries!
 Very nice :-)

 I wouldn't know how to implement it in TiddlyWiki though...

 This : http://www.vexflow.com/vextab/tutorial.html

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 include external js/css in meta area

2014-05-26 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi BJ

 to include code (ie your script references etc) in the header section,
put the code into a tiddler and tag it with $:/core/wiki/rawmarkup.

Well spotted, I think that I had forgotten that feature. For 5.0.13, I've
added support and documentation for $:/tags/RawMarkup alongside
$:/core/wiki/rawmarkup; we'll deprecate the latter at some point.

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/f14ecf4eb8965f2e407ccac51d4277330221efe3

Many thanks

Jeremy




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 to include code (ie your script references etc) in the header section, put
 the code into a tiddler and tag it with $:/core/wiki/rawmarkup.
 cheers

 BJ


 On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:56:09 PM UTC+1, Felix Küppers wrote:

 Hi,

 I want to include my external library in TW5, however, everytime I save
 TW, it overrides my script reference in the html code.

 the code is inserted by me manually inside the head tag

 script src=js/jquery-1.9.1.js type=text/javascript/script
 script src=js/my.js type=text/javascript/script
 link href=css/my.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css /

 ...

 any ideas how to solve it?
 many thanks!

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Problem mixing leftmenu and default tiddlers

2014-05-26 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Thanks Dave, that's a bug. Fixed for 5.0.13:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/9aaa000d3fc21310404b260fed45ab3390af9afe

Best wishes

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On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Ton Gerner ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Dave,

 And that is why it worked for me; I don't use zoomin mode normally and
 switched to classic mode when I imported your stuff ;-)

 Anyhow, you know what was happening.

 Cheers,

 Ton


 On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:03:24 PM UTC+2, David Gifford wrote:

 Ton, the problem turned out to be zoomin mode. I prefer to have only one
 tiddler open at a time, but for some reason when I switched to normal or
 classic view mode it worked fine. So I guess for now I will have to live
 with classic view mode.

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[tw] Re: A View Mode Editor and a simple Calcualtor

2014-05-26 Thread Vincent Yeh
Hi Ton,

On Saturday, May 24, 2014 5:41:10 PM UTC+8, Ton Gerner wrote:

 Hi Vincent,

 On Friday, May 23, 2014 6:48:47 PM UTC+2, Vincent Yeh wrote:

 Hi Ton,

 Glad to hear you again!

 On Friday, May 23, 2014 9:03:28 PM UTC+8, Ton Gerner wrote:

 Hi Vincent

 Sorry i did not respond earlier but I have been busy with upgrading all my 
 TW5s and customization guides for TW5 to v5.0.12-beta.


 No problem. I am also struggling to study the plugin and refreshing 
 mechanism of TW5 and still not quite sure how exactly to port my plugins 
 over yet.


 One issue I had with twve.core/twve.table v3.0.1 was with the SiteSubtitle 
 of TW; for some reason new text there behaved not normal (sometimes 
 appeared in 2 - different - places).
 Just forget it since with v3.0.2 I don't see that issue anymore.


 Great, although I really have no idea what that not normal thing is.
  


 My last remark in my previous post was : I now will try it in my main 
 TWclassic.

 I did that but noticed my backstage button had disappeared. I remembered 
 we have seen this before [1].

 An empty TW with twve.core/twve.table does show the backstage button, so 
 it can be one of my plugins is interfering.
 The list of my plugins:


 Wow, a good list of plugins to test!


 As far as I know, it is the same as reported a year ago, see 
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/0FT6iBneYOk/8SrufGFFQf8J
 I reported the missing backstage button around that time as well, see 
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/0FT6iBneYOk/2Dwr7WHogJ8J
 You fixed it at that time, but I don't know how ;-)


Funny thing is that I do not remember how, either!
 


  

  

 DropDownMenuPlugin
 GotoPlugin
 ImageSizePlugin
 ImportTiddlersPlugin
 InlineJavascriptPlugin
 ListFiltrPlugin
 NestedSlidersPlugin
 QuickEditPlugin
 QuickNotePlugin
 QuickOpenTagPlugin
 RenameTagsPlugin
 SaveAndReloadMacro
 SearchOptionsPlugin
 SimpleMessagePlugin
 SystemInfoPlugin
 TabEditPlugin
 TableOfContentsPlugin
 TableSortingPlugin_TB


 Is this TableSortingPlugin_TB different from TableSortingPlugin? I do have 
 TableSortingPlugin and the *twve* work fine with it, but I don't seem to 
 find the _TB version anywhere. Can you send me a copy of it? This is the 
 one that seems to me most related to tables and I'd like to start with it.


 It is a modification made by Tobias Beer, see 
 http://tobibeer.tiddlyspace.com/TableSortingPlugin
 To be honest I can't remember why I choose for this modification. For sure 
 it solved some issues I had, but I can't remember. 


The version information is the same as the one I am using, so this one 
should work. I will start checking others.
 


  

 TagSearchPlugin
 TagsplorerMacro
 TiddlerTweakerPlugin
 TiddlersBarPluginMP
 TiddlyFileImportr
 ToggleTagPlugin
 YourSearchPlugin

   TWted (v1.4.6)
   TWtable (v1.4.6)

 or

   twve.core.min
   twve.table.min

 But that missing backstage button was a minor problem.
 Normal table editing was almost not possible. First of all row and column 
 numbers did not appear when hovering over the table and the extra menu 
 (row/column handling) did not show either.
 When trying to edit a cell, in most cases the tiddler itself showed in - a 
 strange - edit mode (difficult to describe).
 I had the impression it had something to do with the TiddlersBarPlugin 
 and/or TabEditPlugin, but did not investigate it further.
 Then I switched back to TWted (v1.4.6)/TWtable (v1.4.6) to get my TW 
 working again ;-)

 Today, after installing v3.0.2 a big surprise: no weird behavior anymore, 
 I could edit a table in the normal way.


 Hmmm, that could be the fixed bugs related to sorting, I guess.
  


 But:
 * A tiddler without a table is editable: the title and the text (dashed 
 boxes around title and body when hovering)

 * Not only the table is editable. The title and the body text of a tiddler 
 (with or without table) can be edited as well and that gives rise to 
 strange effects.


 Well, with *twve.core* all wrappers -- elements containing tiddler 
 content, being normally loaded or tabs, tiddler, slider 
 transcluded -- are *editable in the view mode*, because all the required 
 codes are there in *twve.core*. Those codes are in twve.core because they 
 are closely related to the *transclusion synchronization* features 
 included in the core: both features must understand

1. how to identify the elements holding the content, and
2. how to locate their wiki text,

 in order to perform their tasks. That means, when I am able to synchronize 
 the transcluded (and normally loaded) content, I am able to edit them in 
 the view mode.

 I felt strange to disable them since the codes are all there ready to use. 
 But maybe that is bothering you? Maybe I should include options to 
 enable/disable which parts to edit?


 I read the description at 
 http://twve.tiddlyspot.com/#[[Release%20Note%20v3.0.2]]:

 To edit tables only, add twve.table
 To edit elements other than tables, add twve.extra

 Therefore I 

Re: [tw] Re: FeT - For Each Tiddler Questions.

2014-05-26 Thread Jan Johannpeter

Hello Eric, hello whatever.
Thanks for your two approaches, I think Erics is the one I need, because 
I need to call it in a template

I would like to call it up with a macro:
tiddler ShowStoryStatus with: {{tiddler.title}}
unfortunately it gives me this syntax error message: SyntaxError 
javascript:;: unterminated string literal

Unfortunately I am not able to fix it...

Thanks again Jan


Am 26.05.2014 09:27, schrieb Eric Shulman:

On Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:43:51 PM UTC-7, Jan wrote:

I need this to generate a report giving out the value of the field
important in the the tiddlers which are Tiddlylinks in a
StoryTiddler created by Erics SaveStoryPlugin.
If the links are:
[[Tiddler1]]
[[Tiddler2]]
...
I want generate
important@Tiddler1
important@Tiddler2

 as wikified output


For some kinds of generated output, it's can be easier to write inline 
javascript code, rather than trying to shoehorn fragments of 
javascript into the ForEachTiddler macro syntax.  Here's the code for 
producing the output you desire, using

   http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#InlineJavascriptPlugin

script
var out=;
var tids=store.getTiddler(SomeStoryTiddler).getLinks();
if (tids.length) {
   out+=@@font-size:2em;[img(30px,)[Tag.png]] Denken an:\n;
   for (var i=0; itids.length; i++)
  out+= Für [[+tids[i]+]]: +store.getValue(tids[i], 
important)+\n'

   out+=@@;
}
return out;
/script

If you put the above script into a tiddler, e.g. [[ShowStoryStatus]], 
and replace

   var tids=store.getTiddler(SomeStoryTiddler).getLinks();
with
   var tids=store.getTiddler($1).getLinks();

You can then invoke the script for any desired story tiddler by writing:
   tiddler ShowStoryStatus with: TiddlerTitleGoesHere

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Re: [tw] Last call - anyone want tiddlywikiguides.org?

2014-05-26 Thread Stephan Hradek
whois tiddlywikiguides.org

Will tell you:

Registry Expiry Date: 2014-06-02T06:13:05Z

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Newbie: Line-break question

2014-05-26 Thread Stephan Hradek
Am Sonntag, 4. Mai 2014 20:08:56 UTC+2 schrieb Danielo Rodríguez:

 This could be little pain in the ass. Specially for technical documents. 
 Sometimes you want a line break but not a new paragraph. 


I learned from a colleague, who is a technical writer, that you should 
think about why you think there is the need for a line break.

One should not think so much about the *representation* of the information, 
but about the *semantic, *the* meaning* of it.

I couldn't come up with an example where a linebreak carried any meaning 
(except in code blocks, but that's another story). Can you?

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Re: [tw] Re: FeT - For Each Tiddler Questions.

2014-05-26 Thread Eric Shulman
On Monday, May 26, 2014 3:52:17 PM UTC-7, Jan wrote:

  Hello Eric, hello whatever.
 Thanks for your two approaches, I think Erics is the one I need, because I 
 need to call it in a template
 I would like to call it up with a macro:
 tiddler ShowStoryStatus with: {{tiddler.title}}
 unfortunately it gives me this syntax error message: SyntaxError: 
 unterminated string literal
 Unfortunately I am not able to fix it...


Unlike ForEachTiddler, which requires the snippets of javascript code to be 
enclosed in their own quote delimiters, InlineJavascript allows you to 
write clean pure javascript code without using up some of the quotes in the 
process.  Unfortunately, when I copy/pasted your fET code to create my 
javascript example, I left behind one tiny single quote at the end of a 
line, where it doesn't belong!

Remove the trailing ' from this line, and it should be OK:
out+= Für [[+tids[i]+]]: +store.getValue(tids[i], important)+\n'

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services?

2014-05-26 Thread Måns
Hi Jeremy

I am not able to attend the Hangout tomorrow because I'm busy working. I 
don't think I have the skills to be able to follow the walktrough and 
create a widget myself, 

I have however contacted Mohit Muthanna (0xFE http://vexflow.com/vextab/) 
via G+ and invited him to attend the hangout if he is interested in the 
making of a Vextab TiddlyWiki widget/plugin.

If you want to try out VexTab as a Google Docs extension you can add it 
from here: 
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/vextab-music-notation/pjggkphnejbllmmkmmgibonkbbhfjnkk

Cheers Måns Mårtensson
 
Den mandag den 26. maj 2014 23.44.54 UTC+2 skrev Jeremy Ruston:

 The API of VexTab is nice and flexible and would be particularly easy to 
 turn into a TW5 widget.

 There's a TiddlyWiki hangout due tomorrow at 4pm BST, if any interested 
 parties would be able to show up I'd be happy to talk you through what 
 would be involved.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.



 On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 10:24 PM, Yakov yakov.litv...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Hi Russ,

 if TW API knowledge is the only obstacle to making a plugin using vextab, 
 I'll help you with the API with pleasure; but this applies to TW Classic 
 only, unfortunately.

 Best regards,
 Yakov.

 суббота, 24 мая 2014 г., 18:54:49 UTC+4 пользователь Russ написал:

 Hi Mans

 I found vextab (and have been following the developer's tweets) a long 
 time ago.  Sadly, I haven't kept up with it from the point of view of 
 reusing it embedded elsewhere (like TW).  I did try around three years ago 
 but didn't get very far... my TW coding skills (read: API knowledge) are 
 thin to say the least.

 Somewhere grin I have some more related links... I'll try to dig them 
 out and if they're still good/relevant I'll post again.

 Russ


  On 22 May 2014 17:04, Måns huma...@gmail.com wrote:

 seems to be something which could be easily made into a TW5 plugin as 
 all it needs is Html5, Canvas and Raphael...

 See: http://www.vexflow.com/docs/tutorial.html

 I'd love to see that happen - is there a musical programmer/developer 
 who'd like to turn TW5 into a standalone musical notebook?

 Thank you for sharing Russ :-)

 Cheers Måns Mårtensson

 Den torsdag den 22. maj 2014 23.56.06 UTC+2 skrev Måns:

 Hi Russ

 Have you seen 
 http://www.vexflow.com/http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vexflow.com%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNHRWIHpWVf9zzpk56UpTRW88gDRhg?
   When you're there, check out vextab, also.


 Nope - I didn't know about it - it seems to render very nice looking 
 musical notation without the need of external libraries! 
 Very nice :-)

  I wouldn't know how to implement it in TiddlyWiki though...

 This : http://www.vexflow.com/vextab/tutorial.html   

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Re: [tw] Last call - anyone want tiddlywikiguides.org?

2014-05-26 Thread Daniel Baird
As Stephen said, it'll expire early on 2 June, GMT time.

Remember, it only costs you $15 or whatever your registrar charges, to have
a whole year to think about it :)

If you haven't handled domains before, I can probably talk you it.  It's
currently registered at NameCheap, so it's easy to transfer to another
NameCheap account, but between registrars isn't hard anyway.

I was hoping BT/Osmosoft would want it, but it looks like they're
downshifting their investments in TW.  Let me know what you decide..


Cheers
Daniel


On 27 May 2014 04:14, Andreas Hahn www.gal...@googlemail.com wrote:

  Hi Daniel,

 I am currently thinking about this, can you tell me when those few days
 will be over ?

 /Andreas


 Am 26.05.2014 01:15, schrieb Daniel Baird:


  Hi all,

 In a few days my domain tiddlywikiguides.org will expire.  I don't have
 time or budget to maintain it, so I'm willing to transfer it to anyone who
 wants to have it.

  I've mentioned this before on the dev and docs groups; here's my
 once-only post to the main TW list.

  tiddlywikiguides.org used to run a mediawiki instance that collected
 docs for TiddlyWiki, back when the classic version was the only version.
 Most of that content has been moved into the tiddlyspace docs section.

  I'd like to see it at least redirected to tiddlywiki.com or somewhere
 like that, but if you want to make something fancier out of it, that's cool
 too.

  Otherwise it'll just expire and probably get bought up by some jerk
 domain spammer.


  Post back here if you're interested..


 Cheers
  ;Daniel

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[tw] [TWC] How can my HTML button know which tiddler the button is on? (or, as a last resort...)

2014-05-26 Thread Antaeus Feldspar
I'm trying to customize a TW with the FormTiddlerPlugin.  I thought I had one 
of my major goals accomplished:  being able to call Javascript code attached to 
HTML buttons defined in the formTemplate.

However, my joy was soon curtailed.  I thought that I could access the details 
of the tiddler the button appeared on through the variable tiddler, and thus 
write along the lines of onClick='alert(tiddler.title)'.  When I tried it and 
tested it, however, I soon discovered that tiddler might mean the tiddler the 
button appeared on, or might mean another open tiddler.  How can I get to THAT 
tiddler's data, specifically?

I realize that if I wrote all the buttons I want to employ as TiddlyWiki macros 
that generate TiddlyButtons, the tiddler the macro was called from would be 
passed right to the handler function.  But A) I'd rather use HTML buttons while 
I'm in an HTML form, B) I want to apply this to other form inputs besides 
buttons, and C) I simply CANNOT find the documentation that I know used to be 
out there for how to write a plugin that produces a TiddlyButton.

Can anyone help?

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[tw] Re: [TWC] How can my HTML button know which tiddler the button is on? (or, as a last resort...)

2014-05-26 Thread Eric Shulman
On Monday, May 26, 2014 6:38:07 PM UTC-7, Antaeus Feldspar wrote:

 I'm trying to customize a TW with the FormTiddlerPlugin.  I thought I had 
 one of my major goals accomplished:  being able to call Javascript code 
 attached to HTML buttons defined in the formTemplate.

 However, my joy was soon curtailed.  I thought that I could access the 
 details of the tiddler the button appeared on through the variable 
 tiddler, and thus write along the lines of 
 onClick='alert(tiddler.title)'.  When I tried it and tested it, however, 
 I soon discovered that tiddler might mean the tiddler the button appeared 
 on,  or might mean another open tiddler.  How can I get to THAT tiddler's 
 data, specifically?


input type=button 
onclick=alert(story.findContainingTiddler(this).getAttribute('tiddler')) 
value=click me /

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Re: [tw] Re: Html Tables appears at bottom (SOLVED)

2014-05-26 Thread wolfbite

Thanks I'll check that too


On 24/05/14 15:43, Birthe C wrote:

Hi Wolfbite


I remember having had that problem in the past. In 
HTMLFormattingPlugin there is an option to ignore all linebreaks. That 
usually fixed it.



Birthe


On Saturday, May 24, 2014 2:28:34 AM UTC+2, wolfbite wrote:

I'm noting here for myself and anyone else that may have trouble with
html table appearing down the page (instead of the top), just
spent a day trying to search answer  resolve.

Thought it was me, being not bright enough
then as always went searching for answers  examples
then found http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/
http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/ with working examples

so I incorporated them but mine would appear at the bottom of the page
Finally found out by trial an error it wasnt me

suspected HTMLFormattingPlugin
found *abego*Extensions DIDNT have HTMLFormattingPlugin

Removed HTMLFormattingPlugin  added XHTML10Plugin
check with ContactsFormTemplate on the site

If I'm still wrong, please advise another fix

2 steps forward, 1 back, repeat continually :)

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