[tw] Re: Changing the tab size for text/plain tiddlers

[Branimir Braykov]

I did this and I am definately going to use it in all my tiddlers :-)

But does anyone know what this part of $:/
plugins/tiddlywiki/highlight/highlightblock.js is doing and how I can use 
it:
hljs.tabReplace = "";

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[tw] Re: Extendable calendar

[Stephan Hradek]

Am Dienstag, 28. Oktober 2014 19:30:53 UTC+1 schrieb BJ:
>
>
> There is a new version at http://bjtools.tiddlyspot.com to work with 
> 5.1.3 and above. I have also added support for journal tiddlers.
>
> Nice.

But could you please add a few more classes?

That way one could, with some CSS, format the Journal links to missing 
journals (so in the year-view on your page) the same like normal text. That 
way the real entries would be more obvious. I think about something like 


Additionally, if you can't remove, in the year-view the empty cells between 
the months, I suggest to add a class there too  
That way it would be possible to eliminate the top and bottom border with 
some css and also to adjust the distance. Would make a better visual 
appearance, I assume. 

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[tw] Re: A use case story: reading a text, annotating with questions, filtering with sufix

[Danielo Rodríguez]

>
> Maybe I'll add an exclamation point (!) on my missing tiddler [[Why this 
> !?]] & ([suffix[!?]]) so it will leave from filter tiddlers which are ok 
> with an interrogation point ^^'.
>
>
What if you limit the list to the links that goes out of the current 
tiddler?
Or this is for a global use case?

Anyway, thank you Alex for sharing this. Very nice idea.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] A short video to present a plugin that I'm currently developing

[Felix Küppers]

Hi Ed

Love it! I am curious why D3 which is already available in TW5 didn't fit 
> the bill?
>

Thank you very much :) I looked at several systems that are especially 
network oriented and thus provide more features than libraries that have a 
broader approach like D3. D3 is super awesome, I know, but the setup cost 
would have been too high. I compared http://visjs.org vs http://sigmajs.org/ 
vs http://cytoscape.github.io/cytoscape.js/ and vis.js won my comparison, 
altough cytoscape is crazy. 
 

> IMHO this would be a game changer if the relationships could be generated 
> through the already existing tagging system and allow to open the related 
> tiddlers when clicked. Building a graphical representation of existing 
> content in the wiki. Awesome work regardless, congrats! 
>

These days I will create a dropdown in the controls above the graph that 
allows you to display only tiddlers that possess a certain tag and their 
direct relations. I also want to allow a filter expression for that. Is 
that what you meant?

Regards Felix

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[tw] Re: [TW5] A short video to present a plugin that I'm currently developing

[Felix Küppers]

Hi Hans,

Very nice!  This appears to go quite a way towards replacing several of the 
> functions of TheBrain that I still depend on.  It might also reduce my use 
> of Microsoft's "Project" software
>
>
Yes, its great for organizing. As for me, I program this plugin to be 
better organized with my master thesis :)

Regards
Felix

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[tw] Re: [TW5] A short video to present a plugin that I'm currently developing

[Felix Küppers]

Merci beaucoup :)

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[tw] Re: [TW5] A short video to present a plugin that I'm currently developing

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Hello Felix,

I have to admit that I'm in love with your plugin. I wanted it so much that 
i even though several times about programming it myself, but I don't have 
the needed skills for such a complex task. I'm glad to see that you are 
doing it.

I have to say that I'm glad to see that you are not using the D3 approach. 
I don't like how the graphs are created and how you can interact with them. 
I fell your approach is much more powerful and useful.

I can't wait to try it out!!!

El miércoles, 5 de noviembre de 2014 18:04:04 UTC+1, Felix Küppers escribió:
>
> Hi @all,
>
> I created a short video to present a plugin that I'm currently developing.
> So now everybody knows what I am working on and why I ask so many 
> questions in the forum :)
>
> I described the plugin partly here: 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywikidev/hwtX59tKsIk/qAGRJxK9_iAJ
>
> Note, that I did not show all the features and and I discovered a small 
> bug during the presentation but if you are interested in
> * mindmaps
> * ticket systems and
> * connecting tiddlers visually
>
> you maybe want to check it out.
>
> http://youtu.be/nq4UijNWvQA
>
> Have fun
> Felix
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] A short video to present a plugin that I'm currently developing

[Danielo Rodríguez]

I just checked out Cytoscape, and It is awesome!

Why don't you like it? Seems easy to use

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[tw] Re: [TW5] A short video to present a plugin that I'm currently developing

[Felix Küppers]

Hi Danielo,

really warm words, thank you Danielo!

*Your question about Cytoscape:* Yes its great I admit it, but I had to 
make a choice. After comparing the APIs, I felt It doesn't focus on 
graph-manipulation at runtime by the enduser (vis.js does this out of the 
box). vis.js has many modes for calculating the motion of the graph when 
beeing dragged, you can specify gravity and all the physics - cytoscape 
doesn't have this. Also I liked that vis.js allows "dot" and "json" 
notation to describe the graph (which is not really relevant here). 
Cytoscape allows stuff like shortest path calculation and all that (which 
is also not really relevant here). Both are great... as I said I had to 
make a choice and in the end vis.js appeared more useful.

Regards Felix

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[tw] Re: [TW5] A short video to present a plugin that I'm currently developing

[Danielo Rodríguez]

>
> *Your question about Cytoscape:* Yes its great I admit it, but I had to 
> make a choice. After comparing the APIs, I felt It doesn't focus on 
> graph-manipulation at runtime by the enduser (vis.js does this out of the 
> box). vis.js has many modes for calculating the motion of the graph when 
> beeing dragged, you can specify gravity and all the physics - cytoscape 
> doesn't have this. Also I liked that vis.js allows "dot" and "json" 
> notation to describe the graph (which is not really relevant here). 
> Cytoscape allows stuff like shortest path calculation and all that (which 
> is also not really relevant here). Both are great... as I said I had to 
> make a choice and in the end vis.js appeared more useful.
>
> Regards Felix
>

Ok, I have to trust you since I did not make any comparison. What I don 
like about vis.js is one of the things you consider a "feature", the 
physics. I hate them. I want to place elements whatever I want, not where 
physics allows me. Will you give the option to deactivate them? I would 
like to see something like this:

http://jsbin.com/gist/621d51ea7de19608127e?js,output 

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[tw] [TW5] TableOfContents headings

[andrew.j.harrison84]

I modified my Viewtemple to show a field call display-title instead of the 
title because sometimes I don't want the title to display. I don't know if that 
is the proper way but it seemed to work. Now that I'm building TableOfContents 
I'm realizing that the macro pulls in the title. Is there any way to pull in a 
field instead of the title with the TableOfContents macro?



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[tw] Re: [TW5] TableOfContents headings

[PMario]

The TOC macro automatically uses the "caption" field if it exists.
-m

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[tw] Re: [TW5] TableOfContents headings

[PMario]

On Thursday, November 6, 2014 2:32:31 PM UTC+1, PMario wrote:
>
> The TOC macro automatically uses the "caption" field if it exists.
> -m
>

There is some discussion going on, since the caption field is also used by 
the <> macro. 
tabs needs short captions, where TOC may have longer caption texts. 

see: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/922
You can join the discussion if you want.

-m


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[tw] [[TW5]] How to use in fields?

[andrew.j.harrison84]

Does anyone know how to get a non breaking space in a field? When I use   
in a field, I get " " instead of a non breaking space.



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Re: [tw] Re: A use case story: reading a text, annotating with questions, filtering with sufix

[Alex Hough]

On the next iteration, when i added text to the question tiddlers, I think
i'll add a tag, then filter questions by tag.

I like the prefix and suffix filters. They offer alternatives to tagging.

The clone button is good for working up prefix lists.

Alex

On 6 November 2014 10:00, Danielo Rodríguez  wrote:

> Maybe I'll add an exclamation point (!) on my missing tiddler [[Why this
>> !?]] & ([suffix[!?]]) so it will leave from filter tiddlers which are ok
>> with an interrogation point ^^'.
>>
>>
> What if you limit the list to the links that goes out of the current
> tiddler?
> Or this is for a global use case?
>
> Anyway, thank you Alex for sharing this. Very nice idea.
>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] A short video to present a plugin that I'm currently developing

[Felix Küppers]

>
> Ok, I have to trust you since I did not make any comparison. What I don 
> like about vis.js is one of the things you consider a "feature", the 
> physics. I hate them. I want to place elements whatever I want, not where 
> physics allows me. Will you give the option to deactivate them? I would 
> like to see something like this:
> http://jsbin.com/gist/621d51ea7de19608127e?js,output 
>

Very good point. I just implemented this. Also I expose all options of 
vis.js in a tiddler so they can be changed. All power to the user, right? :)

vis.js calculates the graph in the background and then gives the API user a 
chance to disable the physics. It all works exactly as in the example you 
linked.
Technical stuff see here: https://github.com/almende/vis/issues/161

Regards
Felix

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[tw] Re: Changing the tab size for text/plain tiddlers

[Sylvain Naudin]

Le jeudi 6 novembre 2014 09:33:00 UTC+1, Branimir Braykov a écrit :
>
>
> But does anyone know what this part of $:/
> plugins/tiddlywiki/highlight/highlightblock.js is doing and how I can use 
> it:
> hljs.tabReplace = "";
>


Hello,

Few weeks ago I've installed the highlight plugin 
(http://tiddlywiki.com/plugins/tiddlywiki/highlight/), so I guess that /
highlight/highlightblock.js is for.. highlight plugin ;)

Maybe you can choose the render of tab of your code in a tiddler with that.


Sylvain

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[tw] Re: Changing the tab size for text/plain tiddlers

[Branimir Braykov]

Yes, I am pretty sure it is a part of the plugin.
I just don't know why it doesn't do anything when I change the value of the 
string above.

On Thursday, November 6, 2014 3:55:35 PM UTC+2, Sylvain Naudin wrote:
>
>
>
> Le jeudi 6 novembre 2014 09:33:00 UTC+1, Branimir Braykov a écrit :
>>
>>
>> But does anyone know what this part of $:/
>> plugins/tiddlywiki/highlight/highlightblock.js is doing and how I can 
>> use it:
>> hljs.tabReplace = "";
>>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> Few weeks ago I've installed the highlight plugin (
> http://tiddlywiki.com/plugins/tiddlywiki/highlight/), so I guess that /
> highlight/highlightblock.js is for.. highlight plugin ;)
>
> Maybe you can choose the render of tab of your code in a tiddler with that.
>
>
> Sylvain
>

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[tw] Re: tag renaming

[steve]

Hi 

Thanks to Steohen and Alberto, I'm successfully using RenameTags from 
http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/.  I am using as is pasted directly from 
the TW5 Magick page.

I have two minor questions tho.

1. I don't see the tag name when I use the procedure. What I see it "1st. 
Apply the tag to the following tiddlers". I am wondering what I'm doing 
wrong.
2. It seems counterintuitive to me to have have to unckeck the checkboxs in 
the second step to select the tiddlers to have the search tage deleted. 
Could/should the checkboxs start off as unchecked in the second step?

STeve Wharton

On Thursday, January 30, 2014 7:24:42 AM UTC-5, Ton Gerner wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> See https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/OCntQ79DuwM/_vYCTYRXfaUJ
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ton
>
> On Thursday, January 30, 2014 1:09:41 PM UTC+1, cangaroo joe wrote:
>>
>> In case I want to modify (rename) a mistyped tag which is linked to ex. 
>> 100 tiddlers, because there is no tag renaming feature implemented, how can 
>> I change the tags' names so not to damage the well functionality of my TW5 
>> file? If I delete the selected tag I think it will be unlinked from those 
>> 100 tiddlers... Should I create the correct tag and manually attach the tag 
>> name in each those 100 tiddlers?
>>
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] A short video to present a plugin that I'm currently developing

[Ed Dixon]

Hi,

Yes that is exactly what I had in mind!

Thanks,

On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 3:12 AM, Felix Küppers 
wrote:

> Hi Ed
>
> Love it! I am curious why D3 which is already available in TW5 didn't fit
>> the bill?
>>
>
> Thank you very much :) I looked at several systems that are especially
> network oriented and thus provide more features than libraries that have a
> broader approach like D3. D3 is super awesome, I know, but the setup cost
> would have been too high. I compared http://visjs.org vs
> http://sigmajs.org/ vs http://cytoscape.github.io/cytoscape.js/ and
> vis.js won my comparison, altough cytoscape is crazy.
>
>
>> IMHO this would be a game changer if the relationships could be generated
>> through the already existing tagging system and allow to open the related
>> tiddlers when clicked. Building a graphical representation of existing
>> content in the wiki. Awesome work regardless, congrats!
>>
>
> These days I will create a dropdown in the controls above the graph that
> allows you to display only tiddlers that possess a certain tag and their
> direct relations. I also want to allow a filter expression for that. Is
> that what you meant?
>
> Regards Felix
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[tw] Re: tag renaming

[Stephan Hradek]

Am Donnerstag, 6. November 2014 16:00:24 UTC+1 schrieb steve:
>
>
> 1. I don't see the tag name when I use the procedure. What I see it "1st. 
> Apply the tag to the following tiddlers". I am wondering what I'm doing 
> wrong.
>

Not sure. Can you show it somewhere? Is it available on tiddlyspot for 
example?
 

> 2. It seems counterintuitive to me to have have to unckeck the checkboxs 
> in the second step to select the tiddlers to have the search tage deleted. 
> Could/should the checkboxs start off as unchecked in the second step?
>

That's (unfortunately) the way the checkbox works. When a tag is present, 
it's checked. When it's missing, the checkbox is unchecked. Would we want 
it the other way around, we would need to write a program (or better 
javascript macro/widget). It's not worth the effort.

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[tw] Re: [[TW5]] How to use in fields?

[Stephan Hradek]

On a Mac press Shift-Alt-Space. I'm sure there is also something there for 
WinDOS. Or try Alt-1-6-0 on the numpad. If I remember correctly, that's the 
way to enter ASCII codes.

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Re: [tw] Re: [[TW5]] How to use in fields?

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Andrew

  won't work in a field if the field is displayed as plain text, but
it will work correctly if the field is wikified (ie displayed with a
transclusion rather than the <$view> widget). If you want a non-breaking
space in a field that will be displayed as plain text then you need to use
a keyboard shortcut as suggested by Stephan. Wikipedia gives the keyboard
shortcuts for each operating system:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-breaking_space#Keyboard_entry_methods

Best wishes

Jeremy.




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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] A short video to present a plugin that I'm currently developing

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Felix

I'm sorry to be the last to congratulate you on an excellent piece of work.
I'll be looking forward to playing with the beta very much.

Best wishes

Jeremy



On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Ed Dixon  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Yes that is exactly what I had in mind!
>
> Thanks,
>
> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 3:12 AM, Felix Küppers 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ed
>>
>> Love it! I am curious why D3 which is already available in TW5 didn't fit
>>> the bill?
>>>
>>
>> Thank you very much :) I looked at several systems that are especially
>> network oriented and thus provide more features than libraries that have a
>> broader approach like D3. D3 is super awesome, I know, but the setup cost
>> would have been too high. I compared http://visjs.org vs
>> http://sigmajs.org/ vs http://cytoscape.github.io/cytoscape.js/ and
>> vis.js won my comparison, altough cytoscape is crazy.
>>
>>
>>> IMHO this would be a game changer if the relationships could be
>>> generated through the already existing tagging system and allow to open the
>>> related tiddlers when clicked. Building a graphical representation of
>>> existing content in the wiki. Awesome work regardless, congrats!
>>>
>>
>> These days I will create a dropdown in the controls above the graph that
>> allows you to display only tiddlers that possess a certain tag and their
>> direct relations. I also want to allow a filter expression for that. Is
>> that what you meant?
>>
>> Regards Felix
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Re: [tw] Re: Changing the tab size for text/plain tiddlers

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Branimir

I've fixed the problem with highlight.js not being configured correctly:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/73491f14dd63612d527632210d2c3873eb81188f

So the situation now is that without the highlight plugin installed, tabs
within code blocks are only displayed correctly in Firefox. They can be
copied and pasted as expected even from browsers that don't display tabs.
With the highlight plugin installed, tabs are rendered as 4 spaces, which
is a simplification of the expected behaviour of tabs. Sadly, with the
highlight plugin installed, copying from a text area gives you text with
spaces instead of tabs.

Best wishes

Jeremy


On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Branimir Braykov  wrote:

> Yes, I am pretty sure it is a part of the plugin.
> I just don't know why it doesn't do anything when I change the value of
> the string above.
>
>
> On Thursday, November 6, 2014 3:55:35 PM UTC+2, Sylvain Naudin wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Le jeudi 6 novembre 2014 09:33:00 UTC+1, Branimir Braykov a écrit :
>>>
>>>
>>> But does anyone know what this part of $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/
>>> highlight/highlightblock.js is doing and how I can use it:
>>> hljs.tabReplace = "";
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Few weeks ago I've installed the highlight plugin (http://tiddlywiki.com/
>> plugins/tiddlywiki/highlight/), so I guess that /highlight/
>> highlightblock.js is for.. highlight plugin ;)
>>
>> Maybe you can choose the render of tab of your code in a tiddler with
>> that.
>>
>>
>> Sylvain
>>
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Re: [tw] Re: A use case story: reading a text, annotating with questions, filtering with sufix

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Alex

> The preview pane came in useful. I created a link, then was able to click
on the link in the preview to make that tiddler. I then removed text from
the original and put it in the new tiddler.

Very interesting.

By the way, your second example can be simplified a little by directly
chaining the two operators:

<>

Best wishes

Jeremy.


On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Alex Hough  wrote:

> On the next iteration, when i added text to the question tiddlers, I think
> i'll add a tag, then filter questions by tag.
>
> I like the prefix and suffix filters. They offer alternatives to tagging.
>
> The clone button is good for working up prefix lists.
>
> Alex
>
> On 6 November 2014 10:00, Danielo Rodríguez  wrote:
>
>> Maybe I'll add an exclamation point (!) on my missing tiddler [[Why this
>>> !?]] & ([suffix[!?]]) so it will leave from filter tiddlers which are
>>> ok with an interrogation point ^^'.
>>>
>>>
>> What if you limit the list to the links that goes out of the current
>> tiddler?
>> Or this is for a global use case?
>>
>> Anyway, thank you Alex for sharing this. Very nice idea.
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[tw] Re: tag renaming

[Stephan Hradek]

You did not import the "showtag" template.

Anyhow: I've changed it now so that it is self-contained. Just import the 
RenameTags again.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] A short video to present a plugin that I'm currently developing

[Felix Küppers]

Hi Jeremy,

your congratulations mean much to me, thank you.

There is a lot more to come, I will post this in a second video soon. Then 
I will do some code-cleanup and hopefully I can upload my code next week.

While I currently have two pull requests going, I absolutely depend on the 
modal patch. If you could take a look at it (the modal pull request) or 
tell me what else I need to fix to get it accepted, it would be great.

Regards
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] A short video to present a plugin that I'm currently developing

[Stephan Hradek]

Am Donnerstag, 6. November 2014 18:17:17 UTC+1 schrieb Felix Küppers:
>
> Hi Jeremy,
>
> your congratulations mean much to me, thank you.
>
> There is a lot more to come, I will post this in a second video soon. Then 
> I will do some code-cleanup and hopefully I can upload my code next week.
>

Please add audio this time. And I do not mean some fancy background music :D

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Re: [tw] Re: A use case story: reading a text, annotating with questions, filtering with sufix

[Evolena]

>
> > The preview pane came in useful. I created a link, then was able to 
> click on the link in the preview to make that tiddler. I then removed text 
> from the original and put it in the new tiddler.
>
> Very interesting.
>

I've already used the preview pane this way too. 

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[tw] Re: Extendable calendar

[BJ]

On Thursday, November 6, 2014 8:35:08 AM UTC, Stephan Hradek wrote:
>
>
>
> Am Dienstag, 28. Oktober 2014 19:30:53 UTC+1 schrieb BJ:
>>
>>
>> There is a new version at http://bjtools.tiddlyspot.com to work with 
>> 5.1.3 and above. I have also added support for journal tiddlers.
>>
>> Nice.
>
> thanks :) 

> But could you please add a few more classes?
>

I would say the plugin is experimental, it is constructed from wiki text so 
there is not the possibility to add classes - it probably should be 
replaced with html and make as a widget. I would like to develop it more 
but I don't have time at the moment.

>
> That way one could, with some CSS, format the Journal links to missing 
> journals (so in the year-view on your page) the same like normal text. That 
> way the real entries would be more obvious. I think about something like 
> 
>
 
The default in the new calendar tab should be formatted that way 

>
> Additionally, if you can't remove, in the year-view the empty cells 
> between the months, I suggest to add a class there too  class="bj-distance"> That way it would be possible to eliminate the top and 
> bottom border with some css and also to adjust the distance. Would make a 
> better visual appearance, I assume. 
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Extendable calendar

[BJ]

On Thursday, November 6, 2014 7:54:11 AM UTC, Lourens Rhijnsburger wrote:
>
> Cool it works!! (as intended) You can now change your name BJ! 
> (tip: If you change to BugfreeJef you can keep the initials)
>
:) maybe, but I doubt that my debugging days are finished  (in general)

> Thx
> Lourens
>
> Op woensdag 5 november 2014 20:09:14 UTC+1 schreef BJ:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, November 3, 2014 8:21:56 AM UTC, Lourens Rhijnsburger wrote:
>>>
>>> BJ,
>>>
>>> Please find another bug report:
>>> For making Journals in the future December does not work. If I click on 
>>> a date to make new journal in December it opens draft with 
>>> 2 2015
>>> instead *2 December 2014*, it works with other months. ( my Journal 
>>> setting is DD MMM  )
>>> If I change the Journal to this correct name, it will not show up as 
>>> link the month December.
>>>
>>> Or is some setting wrong in my TW?
>>>
>>> thx
>>> Lourens
>>>
>>> Hi Lourens,
>> I have updated the calendar plugin - it now includes a diary macro which 
>> should be used in place of the calendar macro when you wish to create 
>> future journal entries,
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> BJ 
>>
>>> Op donderdag 30 oktober 2014 15:28:35 UTC+1 schreef Lourens Rhijnsburger:

 Thanks BJ,

 I'm Sure I tried that before, but nevermind it is now working. I want 
 to stay at deprecated 
 <>
 because I want to make journals as appointments in the future from the 
 calendar-view.

 thx again,
 Lawrence

 Op donderdag 30 oktober 2014 14:55:12 UTC+1 schreef BJ:
>
>
> Hi Lawrence,
> you need to edit the config tiddler $:/config/bj/Calendar.json 
> , within 
> the journals section change lastDayOfWeek to 0, ie
>
>
>   "journals": {
> "lastDayOfWeek": "0"
>
> Cheers
>
> BJ
>
>
> On Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:00:35 AM UTC, Lourens Rhijnsburger 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi BJ,
>>
>> With using the old deprecated extension format, the week starts on 
>> Tuesday, after upgrading.
>> I would like it back to Monday, does not seem to work what I try, 
>> please advise what can I do?
>>
>> thx
>> Lawrence
>>
>> Op woensdag 29 oktober 2014 21:46:51 UTC+1 schreef BJ:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 8:06:50 PM UTC, BJ wrote:

 For me they are two issues:
 1) I understood that you were using the macro before I made the new 
 version - the new version should be able to work in the same way as 
 the old 
 version - are you still using it this way (the old way)?
 2) the new version of the macro supports only only ddth mm  
 format at the moment. - I do not intend to add different formats at 
 this 
 time - there may be a 'core' version of this macro sometime soon and I 
 do 
 not want spend my time on functionality that would be made obsolete.

>>> Actual the change looks simple so I will do it anyway! 
>>>  
>>>
 On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 7:25:56 PM UTC, RickL wrote:
>
> Not sure I understand the question, sorry.
>
> I am using the latest version of TW5.
> When I use the "New Journal" or "New Journal Here" buttons in the 
> empty TW5 with the plugin imported I get a new tiddler that shows up 
> with a 
> link on the calendar when it is created.
> In my TW with the different date format, the link in the new 
> calendar does not show up.
>
> As for what I am "...passing into the macro..."  I have no clue!
>
> Thanks
>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:33 PM, BJ  wrote:
>
>> HI Rick,
>> I have added a new formatter, the old one is still there - what 
>> format were you using - and what were you passing into the macro to 
>> display 
>> a calendar??
>>
>> BJ
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 10:56:35 AM UTC, RickL wrote:
>>>
>>> I use a different date format for new tiddlers than the DDth MMM 
>>>  that seems to be standard in the macro so this doesn't work 
>>> for me. If 
>>> I install in a new empty TW it works.
>>> Can I change the date format so it will work with the format in 
>>> my calendar TW? - I like the year first for sorting purposes so use 
>>> YY0MM0DD, 
>>> DDD hh12:0mm pm.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 2:30:53 PM UTC-4, BJ wrote:


 There is a new version at http://bjtools.tiddlyspot.com to 
 work with 5.1.3 and above. I have also added support for journal 
 tiddlers.

 

Re: [tw] Re: Drag & Drop External File/Attachment linking

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Blake, Ed,

Unfortunately, when you drag things into a browser we only get to see the
embeddable data; for security reasons, the path to the item is not passed.
That means it is currently not possible to drag and drop an image and have
it show up as an external image.

Sadly, drag and drop support across browsers is very inconsistent and
limited, and security considerations prevent a lot of useful things from
being possible.

Best wishes

Jeremy.



On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 5:35 AM, Ed Dixon  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> +1 This is a wish list item for me as well. A popup dialog with embed or
> download media option might work even better for others that do not have
> this need however. This would be a terrific feature to have if it is
> possible.
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 11:26:56 PM UTC-7, Blake Blacksmith wrote:
>>
>> Instead of drag and drop being limited to full binary imports of a
>> file(which bloats the Wiki and makes editing files cumbersome) is there a
>> way to drag and drop a file that is within a TiddlyWiki's folder and have
>> it expressed as a local file link?
>>
>> For clarity here is an example:
>>
>> I have a TW in folder "*Wiki*" and an image in "*Wiki/images/*". Could
>> we make is so that when we drag and drop the image "
>> *Wiki/images/bunnies.jpg*" into a text area TW checks that the file is
>> within its folder (in this case in "Wiki") and if it is have the relative
>> link text *[[file:./Wiki/images/bunnies.jpg]]* show up and if it not
>> have the absolute link text show up
>> *[[file:/C:/Users/Me/Wiki/images/bunnies.jpg]]*
>>
>>
>> Right now I am manually inserting relative links but this is very time
>> consuming when I must link many files into a Tiddlers text. I currently do
>> not have the time to make my own plugin that does this but think such a
>> plugin would extend the use-cases of TW to in-the-field/real time  note
>> taking.
>>
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[tw] Re: Drag & Drop External File/Attachment linking

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I asked the same thing back in September:

  https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/ShwJuDPhSTQ

According to Jeremy, the problem is that the browser API doesn't expose the 
file paths during a drag/drop. So it would take some additional Firefox 
plugin or other tool to allow this. 

It is possible to open a file browser in a firefox tab and then drag/drop 
file names from there. However, they are imported as "untitled" tiddlers 
and have to be massaged into usable links. Obviously, FF does allow access 
to the file path name when dragging from another FF tab.  So a good 
compromise solution to my way of thinking would be if TW could turn those 
drag/drops into usable file or image links.

Mark


On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 10:26:56 PM UTC-8, Blake Blacksmith wrote:
>
> Instead of drag and drop being limited to full binary imports of a 
> file(which bloats the Wiki and makes editing files cumbersome) is there a 
> way to drag and drop a file that is within a TiddlyWiki's folder and have 
> it expressed as a local file link? 
>
> For clarity here is an example:
>
> I have a TW in folder "*Wiki*" and an image in "*Wiki/images/*". Could we 
> make is so that when we drag and drop the image "*Wiki/images/bunnies.jpg*" 
> into a text area TW checks that the file is within its folder (in this case 
> in "Wiki") and if it is have the relative link text 
> *[[file:./Wiki/images/bunnies.jpg]]* show up and if it not have the 
> absolute link text show up *[[file:/C:/Users/Me/Wiki/images/bunnies.jpg]]*
>
>
> Right now I am manually inserting relative links but this is very time 
> consuming when I must link many files into a Tiddlers text. I currently do 
> not have the time to make my own plugin that does this but think such a 
> plugin would extend the use-cases of TW to in-the-field/real time  note 
> taking.
>
>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Drag & Drop External File/Attachment linking

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Mark

It is possible to open a file browser in a firefox tab and then drag/drop
> file names from there. However, they are imported as "untitled" tiddlers
> and have to be massaged into usable links. Obviously, FF does allow access
> to the file path name when dragging from another FF tab.  So a good
> compromise solution to my way of thinking would be if TW could turn those
> drag/drops into usable file or image links.
>

Are you asking for the import handling to recognise that dragged text
resembles a file path and treat it differently? I do wonder if that might
not cause problems; a word like "jeremy" is a valid file path after all.

Best wishes

Jeremy.



>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 10:26:56 PM UTC-8, Blake Blacksmith wrote:
>>
>> Instead of drag and drop being limited to full binary imports of a
>> file(which bloats the Wiki and makes editing files cumbersome) is there a
>> way to drag and drop a file that is within a TiddlyWiki's folder and have
>> it expressed as a local file link?
>>
>> For clarity here is an example:
>>
>> I have a TW in folder "*Wiki*" and an image in "*Wiki/images/*". Could
>> we make is so that when we drag and drop the image "
>> *Wiki/images/bunnies.jpg*" into a text area TW checks that the file is
>> within its folder (in this case in "Wiki") and if it is have the relative
>> link text *[[file:./Wiki/images/bunnies.jpg]]* show up and if it not
>> have the absolute link text show up
>> *[[file:/C:/Users/Me/Wiki/images/bunnies.jpg]]*
>>
>>
>> Right now I am manually inserting relative links but this is very time
>> consuming when I must link many files into a Tiddlers text. I currently do
>> not have the time to make my own plugin that does this but think such a
>> plugin would extend the use-cases of TW to in-the-field/real time  note
>> taking.
>>
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Re: [tw] Re: Drag & Drop External File/Attachment linking

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi Jeremy,

I'm assuming (perhaps incorrectly) that when you drag/drop a link from a FF 
link (not from Windows explorer) that FF exposes more information. Here's 
what shows up after a drag/drop/import sequence from a Firefox tab being 
used as a local file browser:

 
   Untitled 1  
  
file:///d:/data/Proj/PhotoScrapbook/origs/%7B040%7DIM-3837.jpg

So, there's more there than just a file name. The "file:///" should provide 
a clue that this is a file (not ordinary text) and the suffix indicates 
that it is an image.


Thanks!

Mark



On Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:52:14 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Mark
>
> It is possible to open a file browser in a firefox tab and then drag/drop 
>> file names from there. However, they are imported as "untitled" tiddlers 
>> and have to be massaged into usable links. Obviously, FF does allow access 
>> to the file path name when dragging from another FF tab.  So a good 
>> compromise solution to my way of thinking would be if TW could turn those 
>> drag/drops into usable file or image links.
>>
>
> Are you asking for the import handling to recognise that dragged text 
> resembles a file path and treat it differently? I do wonder if that might 
> not cause problems; a word like "jeremy" is a valid file path after all.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>  
>
>>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 10:26:56 PM UTC-8, Blake Blacksmith wrote:
>>>
>>> Instead of drag and drop being limited to full binary imports of a 
>>> file(which bloats the Wiki and makes editing files cumbersome) is there a 
>>> way to drag and drop a file that is within a TiddlyWiki's folder and have 
>>> it expressed as a local file link? 
>>>
>>> For clarity here is an example:
>>>
>>> I have a TW in folder "*Wiki*" and an image in "*Wiki/images/*". Could 
>>> we make is so that when we drag and drop the image "
>>> *Wiki/images/bunnies.jpg*" into a text area TW checks that the file is 
>>> within its folder (in this case in "Wiki") and if it is have the relative 
>>> link text *[[file:./Wiki/images/bunnies.jpg]]* show up and if it not 
>>> have the absolute link text show up 
>>> *[[file:/C:/Users/Me/Wiki/images/bunnies.jpg]]*
>>>
>>>
>>> Right now I am manually inserting relative links but this is very time 
>>> consuming when I must link many files into a Tiddlers text. I currently do 
>>> not have the time to make my own plugin that does this but think such a 
>>> plugin would extend the use-cases of TW to in-the-field/real time  note 
>>> taking.
>>>
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Re: [tw] Re: Drag & Drop External File/Attachment linking

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Mark

I'm assuming (perhaps incorrectly) that when you drag/drop a link from a FF
> link (not from Windows explorer) that FF exposes more information.
>

Ah, right. I thought you meant dragging and dropping the text from
Firefox's address bar.


> Here's what shows up after a drag/drop/import sequence from a Firefox tab
> being used as a local file browser:
>

We could indeed introduce special behaviour for dragging links; the browser
identifies the text as a link when it is dropped. The problem is that it's
not clear what that behaviour should be; for image links, I'd want to
create an external image tiddler with the _canonical_uri field pointing at
the link. Similarly for mp3 links. But the problem is that we can't
determine the type of the resource identified by a link without loading
that resource, which we're unable to do thanks to the browser same origin
policy.

Best wishes

Jeremy




>
>
>Untitled 1
>
> file:///d:/data/Proj/PhotoScrapbook/origs/%7B040%7DIM-3837.jpg
>
> So, there's more there than just a file name. The "file:///" should
> provide a clue that this is a file (not ordinary text) and the suffix
> indicates that it is an image.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:52:14 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mark
>>
>> It is possible to open a file browser in a firefox tab and then drag/drop
>>> file names from there. However, they are imported as "untitled" tiddlers
>>> and have to be massaged into usable links. Obviously, FF does allow access
>>> to the file path name when dragging from another FF tab.  So a good
>>> compromise solution to my way of thinking would be if TW could turn those
>>> drag/drops into usable file or image links.
>>>
>>
>> Are you asking for the import handling to recognise that dragged text
>> resembles a file path and treat it differently? I do wonder if that might
>> not cause problems; a word like "jeremy" is a valid file path after all.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 10:26:56 PM UTC-8, Blake Blacksmith wrote:

 Instead of drag and drop being limited to full binary imports of a
 file(which bloats the Wiki and makes editing files cumbersome) is there a
 way to drag and drop a file that is within a TiddlyWiki's folder and have
 it expressed as a local file link?

 For clarity here is an example:

 I have a TW in folder "*Wiki*" and an image in "*Wiki/images/*". Could
 we make is so that when we drag and drop the image "
 *Wiki/images/bunnies.jpg*" into a text area TW checks that the file is
 within its folder (in this case in "Wiki") and if it is have the relative
 link text *[[file:./Wiki/images/bunnies.jpg]]* show up and if it not
 have the absolute link text show up
 *[[file:/C:/Users/Me/Wiki/images/bunnies.jpg]]*


 Right now I am manually inserting relative links but this is very time
 consuming when I must link many files into a Tiddlers text. I currently do
 not have the time to make my own plugin that does this but think such a
 plugin would extend the use-cases of TW to in-the-field/real time  note
 taking.


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[tw] Re: Drag & Drop External File/Attachment linking

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Ok!

If you open an image in firefox, you can the use TiddlyClip (Image snip) to 
create a new tiddler with the linked image and the image title as name. It 
uses absolute paths, but it works. Maybe there's something in TiddlyClip 
that could clean up the image path. But you're still dragging and dropping 
one at a time.

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Re: [tw] Re: Changing the tab size for text/plain tiddlers

[Danielo Rodríguez]

El jueves, 6 de noviembre de 2014 18:03:53 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston escribió:

>Sadly, with the highlight plugin installed, copying from a text area 
> gives you text with spaces instead of tabs.


> Best wishes
> 
>

That's a feature for me ;) 

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[tw] Re: Extendable calendar

[Stephan Hradek]

Just a hint.

Instead of

function daysInMonth(iMonth, iYear){
return 32 - new Date(iYear, iMonth-1, 32).getDate();
}




you can write:

function daysInMonth(iMonth, iYear){
return new Date(iYear, iMonth, 0).getDate();
}




Am Donnerstag, 6. November 2014 19:22:22 UTC+1 schrieb BJ:

 > >But could you please add a few more classes?


>I would say the plugin is experimental, it is constructed from wiki 
text so there is not the possibility to add classes


Maybe put a classed div around it? That would help I guess.

Also if you put into all the seperator cells if the year calendar, except 
for the first one, a "~", the separting column wouldn't have the vertical 
borders.
 

> > That way one could, with some CSS, format the Journal links to missing 
journals (so in the year-view on your page) the same like normal text. That 
way the real entries would be more obvious. I think about something like 


 
> The default in the new calendar tab should be formatted that way


Ah! Now I see! I was confused by the fact that the month view shows black 
numbers while the year view shows them blue. I didn't notice the grey 
background for dates with entries.

Can weekends be formatted differently? (add a span) Can the current day be 
higlighted?

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Re: [tw] Re: [[TW5]] How to use in fields?

[andrew.j.harrison84]

Thank you very much Stephan and Jeremy. I got it to work. Since I'm on my 
phone, I had to install Hacker's Keyboard to get the ascii character, but it 
works. You are both amazing. Thank you again.



Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G TouchJeremy Ruston  
wrote:Hi Andrew

  won't work in a field if the field is displayed as plain text, but it 
will work correctly if the field is wikified (ie displayed with a transclusion 
rather than the <$view> widget). If you want a non-breaking space in a field 
that will be displayed as plain text then you need to use a keyboard shortcut 
as suggested by Stephan. Wikipedia gives the keyboard shortcuts for each 
operating system:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-breaking_space#Keyboard_entry_methods

Best wishes

Jeremy.




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On a Mac press Shift-Alt-Space. I'm sure there is also something there for 
WinDOS. Or try Alt-1-6-0 on the numpad. If I remember correctly, that's the way 
to enter ASCII codes.
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Re: [tw] Re: [[TW5]] How to use in fields?

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Andrew

Just a thought, but if you find yourself needing to type non-breaking
spaces on your phone often, you could create a tiddler "nbsp" that contains
" " and then when you need to type it, just open the tiddler and copy
the space.

It may be easier to select the space if you put it in a textarea like this:

 

Best wishes

Jeremy.


On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 8:54 PM, andrew.j.harrison84 <
andrew.j.harriso...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you very much Stephan and Jeremy. I got it to work. Since I'm on my
> phone, I had to install Hacker's Keyboard to get the ascii character, but
> it works. You are both amazing. Thank you again.
>
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G Touch
>
> Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
> Hi Andrew
>
>   won't work in a field if the field is displayed as plain text, but
> it will work correctly if the field is wikified (ie displayed with a
> transclusion rather than the <$view> widget). If you want a non-breaking
> space in a field that will be displayed as plain text then you need to use
> a keyboard shortcut as suggested by Stephan. Wikipedia gives the keyboard
> shortcuts for each operating system:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-breaking_space#Keyboard_entry_methods
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Stephan Hradek 
> wrote:
>
>> On a Mac press Shift-Alt-Space. I'm sure there is also something there
>> for WinDOS. Or try Alt-1-6-0 on the numpad. If I remember correctly, that's
>> the way to enter ASCII codes.
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[tw] [tw5] Extending the tiddlywiki server command

[jayfresh]

I've been doing a little investigation with the aim of adding a new route 
to the tiddlywiki server, which you get by running the server command under 
node.js:

tiddlywiki myWikiFolder --server

I wanted to be able to view my tiddlers as individual HTML, like so:

http://localhost:8080/myTiddler

Approach one, which I couldn't make work, tried to manipulate the server 
object that the server command creates at startup. But this didn't work as 
I don't think the server is exposed.

Approach two was to create a new command, "tiddler-server", which inherits 
from the original server command, but extends it. So the command to run the 
server becomes:

tiddlywiki myWikiFolder --tiddler-server

It's not ideal, as it rather removes the possibility of having multiple 
plugins diving in and adding different routes to the server, but it gets me 
what I need for now.

Here's a gist of a working tiddler-server command:
https://gist.github.com/jayfresh/07edb4b270ee50d84e6b

I'd be interested to hear if anyone has a similar use case.


J.

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Re: [tw] [tw5] Extending the tiddlywiki server command

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Jayfresh

I would definitely like to make the server command extensible so that
additional routes can be added. I'd also like GETting, PUTting and POSTing
individual tiddlers to be part of the core.

There are a couple of relevant issues and pull requests:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/976 - pull request from
@natecain to add configurable GET routes
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1000 - discusses adding
content negotiation, which is needed if we want to be able to GET raw
tiddlers and rendered tiddlers on the same URI

I'm interested in being compatible with express.js, both in the sense of
being able to plug express-compatible routes into TiddlyWiki as well as
being able to use TiddlyWiki routes in a larger express application.

Best wishes

Jeremy.


On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 9:26 PM, jayfresh  wrote:

> I've been doing a little investigation with the aim of adding a new route
> to the tiddlywiki server, which you get by running the server command under
> node.js:
>
> tiddlywiki myWikiFolder --server
>
> I wanted to be able to view my tiddlers as individual HTML, like so:
>
> http://localhost:8080/myTiddler
>
> Approach one, which I couldn't make work, tried to manipulate the server
> object that the server command creates at startup. But this didn't work as
> I don't think the server is exposed.
>
> Approach two was to create a new command, "tiddler-server", which inherits
> from the original server command, but extends it. So the command to run the
> server becomes:
>
> tiddlywiki myWikiFolder --tiddler-server
>
> It's not ideal, as it rather removes the possibility of having multiple
> plugins diving in and adding different routes to the server, but it gets me
> what I need for now.
>
> Here's a gist of a working tiddler-server command:
> https://gist.github.com/jayfresh/07edb4b270ee50d84e6b
>
> I'd be interested to hear if anyone has a similar use case.
>
>
> J.
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Re: [tw] Re: Drag & Drop External File/Attachment linking

[Blake Blacksmith]

>
> We could indeed introduce special behaviour for dragging links; the
> browser identifies the text as a link when it is dropped. *The problem is
> that it's not clear what that behaviour should be; for image links*, ...
>
>
I do not think the job of a drag-and-drop file-link *inserter *should
include determining what type of data the file-link leads to. That should
be up to the user to decide with [img[...]] or other user-defined file
handling macros.

The most general & simple solution would be that the drag-and-dropped
function should:

1. grab the absolute-file-link string file

   - such as: *file:///d:/data/Proj/*
   *PhotoScrapbook/origs/%7B040%7DIM-3837.jpg*


2. check that the file is within the TiddlyWiki's folder

   - for example: *d:/data/Proj/**PhotoScrapbook/ *


3. paste the appropriate link into a text box

   - if it is in under same folder as the TiddlyWiki then paste the *relative
   *file link text : *file:.//**origs/%7B040%*7DIM-3837.jpg
   - and if the file is not under that folder assume the user wants the
   file to be imported into the TiddlyWiki are raw text.


   - could also have the option to paste the *absolute *path link text : f
   *ile:///d:/data/Proj/*PhotoScrapbook/origs/%7B040%*7DIM-3837.jpg *(although
   I am not sure under what scenario this would be useful).

How does that sound? Is that doable or does that violate some browser
security limitations?

Blake

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[tw] Re: Extendable calendar

[BJ]

On Thursday, November 6, 2014 8:17:37 PM UTC, Stephan Hradek wrote:
>
> Just a hint.
>
> Instead of
>
> function daysInMonth(iMonth, iYear){
> return 32 - new Date(iYear, iMonth-1, 32).getDate();
> }
>
>
>
>
> you can write:
>
> function daysInMonth(iMonth, iYear){
> return new Date(iYear, iMonth, 0).getDate();
> }
>
>
>
>
> Am Donnerstag, 6. November 2014 19:22:22 UTC+1 schrieb BJ:
>
>  > >But could you please add a few more classes?
>
>
> >I would say the plugin is experimental, it is constructed from wiki 
> text so there is not the possibility to add classes
>
>
> Maybe put a classed div around it? That would help I guess.
>
> It is possible to add inline styles to tables, so something should be 
possible.
 

> Also if you put into all the seperator cells if the year calendar, except 
> for the first one, a "~", the separting column wouldn't have the vertical 
> borders.
>
> I have a look 

>  
>
> > > That way one could, with some CSS, format the Journal links to missing 
> journals (so in the year-view on your page) the same like normal text. That 
> way the real entries would be more obvious. I think about something like 
> 
>
>  
> > The default in the new calendar tab should be formatted that way
>
>
> Ah! Now I see! I was confused by the fact that the month view shows black 
> numbers while the year view shows them blue. I didn't notice the grey 
> background for dates with entries.
>
> Can weekends be formatted differently? (add a span) Can the current day be 
> higlighted?
>

at present the highlighting of the present day (enabled in the options 
tiddler) is the same as that of a existing journal, but this could  be 
changed, added weekend maybe a bit more involved (dont know if the JS date 
object has a weekend interface) 
I am at present preparing to move to central america for the winter, and 
leave in a couple of days, so am quite occupied at the moment.

 
 
 

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Re: [tw] Re: Drag & Drop External File/Attachment linking

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Blake

One point to note is that you'll get different behaviour if you drag the
link into the text editor within a tiddler you are editing. By default,
you'll get the absolute link. We could indeed tweak it to be a relative
link if possible.

The behaviour I was thinking about in my answers above is when you drag the
link into the rest of the TiddlyWiki window, which triggers the import
mechanism. It's still unclear to me what we should do when we try to import
a link.

Best wishes

Jeremy.




On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Blake Blacksmith 
wrote:

> We could indeed introduce special behaviour for dragging links; the
>> browser identifies the text as a link when it is dropped. *The problem
>> is that it's not clear what that behaviour should be; for image links*,
>> ...
>>
>>
> I do not think the job of a drag-and-drop file-link *inserter *should
> include determining what type of data the file-link leads to. That should
> be up to the user to decide with [img[...]] or other user-defined file
> handling macros.
>
> The most general & simple solution would be that the drag-and-dropped
> function should:
>
> 1. grab the absolute-file-link string file
>
>- such as: *file:///d:/data/Proj/*
>*PhotoScrapbook/origs/%7B040%7DIM-3837.jpg*
>
>
> 2. check that the file is within the TiddlyWiki's folder
>
>- for example: *d:/data/Proj/**PhotoScrapbook/ *
>
>
> 3. paste the appropriate link into a text box
>
>- if it is in under same folder as the TiddlyWiki then paste the *relative
>*file link text : *file:.//**origs/%7B040%*7DIM-3837.jpg
>- and if the file is not under that folder assume the user wants the
>file to be imported into the TiddlyWiki are raw text.
>
>
>- could also have the option to paste the *absolute *path link text : f
>*ile:///d:/data/Proj/*PhotoScrapbook/origs/%7B040%*7DIM-3837.jpg *(although
>I am not sure under what scenario this would be useful).
>
> How does that sound? Is that doable or does that violate some browser
> security limitations?
>
> Blake
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Re: [tw] [TW5] What are the barebones tiddlers

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Andrew

I'm going to be transporting my stand alone tiddlywiki and I want to know
> what I can remove to leave a barebones file.
>

I'm not sure what you mean. If you're trying to make the TiddlyWiki file
smaller, the only real scope is to remove tiddlers that you have created.
What is a barebones file?


> Since I still want to be able to use the upgrade mechanism I have been
> removing text from tiddlers and tagging them as deleted so they don't come
> back in when I upgrade but I am worried I might break something.
>

Tagging tiddlers with "deleted" won't affect them during an upgrade.

Best wishes

Jeremy


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Re: [tw] [tw5] Extending the tiddlywiki server command

[jayfresh]

Ah, excellent, I guessed I wouldn't be the only person wanting this.

Yes, compatibility with Express-type routes sounds like the right thing to 
aim for. Do you have use cases in mind?

On Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:36:22 PM UTC, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Jayfresh
>
> I would definitely like to make the server command extensible so that 
> additional routes can be added. I'd also like GETting, PUTting and POSTing 
> individual tiddlers to be part of the core.
>
> There are a couple of relevant issues and pull requests:
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/976 - pull request from 
> @natecain to add configurable GET routes
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1000 - discusses adding 
> content negotiation, which is needed if we want to be able to GET raw 
> tiddlers and rendered tiddlers on the same URI
>
> I'm interested in being compatible with express.js, both in the sense of 
> being able to plug express-compatible routes into TiddlyWiki as well as 
> being able to use TiddlyWiki routes in a larger express application.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 9:26 PM, jayfresh > 
> wrote:
>
>> I've been doing a little investigation with the aim of adding a new route 
>> to the tiddlywiki server, which you get by running the server command under 
>> node.js:
>>
>> tiddlywiki myWikiFolder --server
>>
>> I wanted to be able to view my tiddlers as individual HTML, like so:
>>
>> http://localhost:8080/myTiddler
>>
>> Approach one, which I couldn't make work, tried to manipulate the server 
>> object that the server command creates at startup. But this didn't work as 
>> I don't think the server is exposed.
>>
>> Approach two was to create a new command, "tiddler-server", which 
>> inherits from the original server command, but extends it. So the command 
>> to run the server becomes:
>>
>> tiddlywiki myWikiFolder --tiddler-server
>>
>> It's not ideal, as it rather removes the possibility of having multiple 
>> plugins diving in and adding different routes to the server, but it gets me 
>> what I need for now.
>>
>> Here's a gist of a working tiddler-server command:
>> https://gist.github.com/jayfresh/07edb4b270ee50d84e6b
>>
>> I'd be interested to hear if anyone has a similar use case.
>>
>>
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[tw] Re: A use case story: reading a text, annotating with questions, filtering with sufix

[Mat]

Thank you Alex! This was very valuable for me.

I then removed text from the original and put it in the new tiddler.
>

TiddlyTools.com (for TWC) has a very nice feature for this in the 
QuickEditPackage  called Split. 
It cuts out a selected text and creates a new tiddler where it is placed, 
and leaves a link, or comparable, in the original location. BTW one such 
"comparable" is a slider so that you can create a document with multiple 
levels of depth. I'm really fond of this idea; have a very brief text but 
let the user "dive in" if there are parts he want's to know more about.

Hoping for something like Split for TW5, some day. Very much in line with 
the whole concept of making tiddlers be the smallest information units.

BTW, does anyone have a suggestion on how to "synthesize" the resulting 
tiddlers into one linear text again? I.e to put the tiddlers in the correct 
sequence? I can think of manually chosing titles so they are sequential or 
to manually compose a list field that forces you to manually write the 
title of every tiddler.

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[tw] Re: tag renaming

[steve]

Stephan

Thanks for answering my question and the update to RenameTags.

Steve Wharton


On Thursday, November 6, 2014 12:10:14 PM UTC-5, Stephan Hradek wrote:
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> You did not import the "showtag" template.
>
> Anyhow: I've changed it now so that it is self-contained. Just import the 
> RenameTags again.
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Re: [tw] Re: Drag & Drop External File/Attachment linking

[Blake Blacksmith]

Sorry if I was unclear but I do not support the idea of importing files
directly into an html file such as TiddlyWiki since this will cause slow
down and a loss of file mobility. My request for a link import was based on
linking to relative files and folders.

One point to note is that you'll get different behaviour if you drag the
> link into the text editor within a tiddler you are editing ... We could
> indeed tweak it to be a relative link if possible.


I think this would vastly improve the process of including files in TW.

By the way, when I drag a file into the text region of a Tiddler during
editing I get redirected by my browser to the file (using most recent
Chrome on Win 8) so I do not get the absolute link you mentioned.

-Blake


On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Jeremy Ruston 
wrote:

> Hi Blake
>
> One point to note is that you'll get different behaviour if you drag the
> link into the text editor within a tiddler you are editing. By default,
> you'll get the absolute link. We could indeed tweak it to be a relative
> link if possible.
>
> The behaviour I was thinking about in my answers above is when you drag
> the link into the rest of the TiddlyWiki window, which triggers the import
> mechanism. It's still unclear to me what we should do when we try to import
> a link.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Blake Blacksmith <
> blakeblacksm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We could indeed introduce special behaviour for dragging links; the
>>> browser identifies the text as a link when it is dropped. *The problem
>>> is that it's not clear what that behaviour should be; for image links*,
>>> ...
>>>
>>>
>> I do not think the job of a drag-and-drop file-link *inserter *should
>> include determining what type of data the file-link leads to. That should
>> be up to the user to decide with [img[...]] or other user-defined file
>> handling macros.
>>
>> The most general & simple solution would be that the drag-and-dropped
>> function should:
>>
>> 1. grab the absolute-file-link string file
>>
>>- such as: *file:///d:/data/Proj/*
>>*PhotoScrapbook/origs/%7B040%7DIM-3837.jpg*
>>
>>
>> 2. check that the file is within the TiddlyWiki's folder
>>
>>- for example: *d:/data/Proj/**PhotoScrapbook/ *
>>
>>
>> 3. paste the appropriate link into a text box
>>
>>- if it is in under same folder as the TiddlyWiki then paste the *relative
>>*file link text : *file:.//**origs/%7B040%*7DIM-3837.jpg
>>- and if the file is not under that folder assume the user wants the
>>file to be imported into the TiddlyWiki are raw text.
>>
>>
>>- could also have the option to paste the *absolute *path link text :
>>f*ile:///d:/data/Proj/*PhotoScrapbook/origs/%7B040%*7DIM-3837.jpg 
>> *(although
>>I am not sure under what scenario this would be useful).
>>
>> How does that sound? Is that doable or does that violate some browser
>> security limitations?
>>
>> Blake
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Re: [tw] Re: Drag & Drop External File/Attachment linking

[andrew.j.harrison84]

I'm wishin, that like the operating system creates shortcuts, draggin the 
favicon from the address bar into an open tiddler would create a tiddler with 
the address in the _canonical_uri field, title in my subtitle field and content 
field, and zTXt chunk the contents of any text from the page and tag it with 
the name of the tiddler that I dragged it into. Maybe that could be a really 
cool pluggin.



Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G TouchBlake Blacksmith  
wrote: 

Sorry if I was unclear but I do not support the idea of importing files 
directly into an html file such as TiddlyWiki since this will cause slow down 
and a loss of file mobility. My request for a link import was based on linking 
to relative files and folders.

One point to note is that you'll get different behaviour if you drag the link 
into the text editor within a tiddler you are editing ... We could indeed tweak 
it to be a relative link if possible.

I think this would vastly improve the process of including files in TW.

By the way, when I drag a file into the text region of a Tiddler during editing 
I get redirected by my browser to the file (using most recent Chrome on Win 8) 
so I do not get the absolute link you mentioned.

-Blake 


On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
Hi Blake

One point to note is that you'll get different behaviour if you drag the link 
into the text editor within a tiddler you are editing. By default, you'll get 
the absolute link. We could indeed tweak it to be a relative link if possible.

The behaviour I was thinking about in my answers above is when you drag the 
link into the rest of the TiddlyWiki window, which triggers the import 
mechanism. It's still unclear to me what we should do when we try to import a 
link.

Best wishes

Jeremy.




On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Blake Blacksmith  
wrote:
We could indeed introduce special behaviour for dragging links; the browser 
identifies the text as a link when it is dropped. The problem is that it's not 
clear what that behaviour should be; for image links, ...


I do not think the job of a drag-and-drop file-link inserter should include 
determining what type of data the file-link leads to. That should be up to the 
user to decide with [img[...]] or other user-defined file handling macros.

The most general & simple solution would be that the drag-and-dropped function 
should:

1. grab the absolute-file-link string file
such as: file:///d:/data/Proj/PhotoScrapbook/origs/%7B040%7DIM-3837.jpg

2. check that the file is within the TiddlyWiki's folder 
for example: d:/data/Proj/PhotoScrapbook/ 

3. paste the appropriate link into a text box
if it is in under same folder as the TiddlyWiki then paste the relative file 
link text : file:.//origs/%7B040%7DIM-3837.jpg
and if the file is not under that folder assume the user wants the file to be 
imported into the TiddlyWiki are raw text.
could also have the option to paste the absolute path link text : 
file:///d:/data/Proj/PhotoScrapbook/origs/%7B040%7DIM-3837.jpg (although I am 
not sure under what scenario this would be useful).
How does that sound? Is that doable or does that violate some browser security 
limitations?

Blake
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Re: [tw] [TW5] modal lightbox with large image

[eirich]

I have something like this:

<$button message="tm-modal" param="image.png">
[img width="100" [image.png]]


I have the same problem TheDiveO describes.  Am I able to set the max-width 
in this block; if so, where?  What I've tried so far doesn't fix the 
problem.

Thank you,
eirich

On Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:51:01 PM UTC-7, Daniel Baird wrote:
>
>
> You could set CSS property max-width: 90% on the image?
>
> On 24 October 2014 06:42, TheDiveO > 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would like to use a modal lightbox that shows an image. I've set up an 
>> image tiddler with a rather large jpg image and added a footer field so the 
>> user can dismiss the tiddler. When I send the tm-modal message, the 
>> lightbox shows up as expected. But unfortunately, the image overflows the 
>> screen and the ayout is, well, borked. Is there a way to auto-size the 
>> image so that it doesn't make the lightbox "explode"? When I view the image 
>> tiddler normally in the story river then the image automatically gets 
>> resized to the story river width.
>>
>> Any help greatly appreciated,
>> TheDiveO
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Re: [tw] Re: Drag & Drop External File/Attachment linking

[Blake Blacksmith]

Seems a bit specific to your use case and out if the realm of a web based 
application. Although admittedly I do not fully understand what you are 
requesting.

On Thursday, November 6, 2014 8:43:37 PM UTC-5, infernoape wrote:
>
>
> I'm wishin, that like the operating system creates shortcuts, draggin the 
> favicon from the address bar into an open tiddler would create a tiddler 
> with the address in the _canonical_uri field, title in my subtitle field 
> and content field, and zTXt chunk the contents of any text from the page 
> and tag it with the name of the tiddler that I dragged it into. Maybe that 
> could be a really cool pluggin.
>
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G Touch
>
> Blake Blacksmith > wrote:
>  
>
> Sorry if I was unclear but I do not support the idea of importing files 
> directly into an html file such as TiddlyWiki since this will cause slow 
> down and a loss of file mobility. My request for a link import was based on 
> linking to relative files and folders.
>
> One point to note is that you'll get different behaviour if you drag the 
>> link into the text editor within a tiddler you are editing ... We could 
>> indeed tweak it to be a relative link if possible.
>
>
> I think this would vastly improve the process of including files in TW.
>
> By the way, when I drag a file into the text region of a Tiddler during 
> editing I get redirected by my browser to the file (using most recent 
> Chrome on Win 8) so I do not get the absolute link you mentioned.
>
> -Blake 
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Jeremy Ruston  > wrote:
>
>> Hi Blake
>>
>> One point to note is that you'll get different behaviour if you drag the 
>> link into the text editor within a tiddler you are editing. By default, 
>> you'll get the absolute link. We could indeed tweak it to be a relative 
>> link if possible.
>>
>> The behaviour I was thinking about in my answers above is when you drag 
>> the link into the rest of the TiddlyWiki window, which triggers the import 
>> mechanism. It's still unclear to me what we should do when we try to import 
>> a link.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Blake Blacksmith > > wrote:
>>
>>> We could indeed introduce special behaviour for dragging links; the 
 browser identifies the text as a link when it is dropped. *The problem 
 is that it's not clear what that behaviour should be; for image links*, 
 ...


>>> I do not think the job of a drag-and-drop file-link *inserter *should 
>>> include determining what type of data the file-link leads to. That should 
>>> be up to the user to decide with [img[...]] or other user-defined file 
>>> handling macros.
>>>
>>> The most general & simple solution would be that the drag-and-dropped 
>>> function should:
>>>
>>> 1. grab the absolute-file-link string file
>>>
>>>- such as: *file:///d:/data/Proj/*
>>>*PhotoScrapbook/origs/%7B040%7DIM-3837.jpg*
>>>
>>>
>>> 2. check that the file is within the TiddlyWiki's folder 
>>>
>>>- for example: *d:/data/Proj/**PhotoScrapbook/ *
>>>
>>>
>>> 3. paste the appropriate link into a text box
>>>
>>>- if it is in under same folder as the TiddlyWiki then paste the 
>>> *relative 
>>>*file link text : *file:.//**origs/%7B040%*7DIM-3837.jpg
>>>- and if the file is not under that folder assume the user wants the 
>>>file to be imported into the TiddlyWiki are raw text.
>>>
>>>
>>>- could also have the option to paste the *absolute *path link text 
>>>: f*ile:///d:/data/Proj/*PhotoScrapbook/origs/%7B040%*7DIM-3837.jpg 
>>> *(although 
>>>I am not sure under what scenario this would be useful).
>>>
>>> How does that sound? Is that doable or does that violate some browser 
>>> security limitations?
>>>
>>> Blake
>>>
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