date:20150527

I think, the important part here is. Users will always face tiddler names
only. .. you can easily prefix them.

As you said, we want to focus on humans. People usually don't want to add a
prefix to each of their tiddlers only to determine the wiki or user they
belongs to. Also, we don't have anything that enforces usernames.

IMO we should go with an UUID V4 as a tiddler ID.

Felix has an algorithm in his tiddlymap library. ... IMO we should make a
pull request for the core.

It is very, very unlikely, that Jeremy will change this. ... but it doesn't
prevent us from adding an UUID field with plugins.
We as plugin authors should just find a common path. ..

This both things have confused me a bit. You said more or less the same
that Felix and me, but I'm not sure if you subscribe our ideas or not. What
do you think exactly? A pull to the core? A separate plugin? For me,
providing unique IDs it's a feature that should be inside the core. Even if
the core does not takes care of them neither uses them. If you think this
should be a plugin, I'm fine with that as soon as all plugin authors stick
to the same plugin.

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[tw] Re: Should we stick to names as ID in external stores?

2015-05-27 Thread Matabele

Hi Mario

In my view -- 16 branches at each level would be sufficient -- it should be
advantageous to structure categories in the TOC in depth, rather than
having long lists in parallel. The current TOC at tiddlywiki.com has 12
branches at root level and no more than 20 branches in the second level
(which could easily be organised to 16.)

At a maximum, 2 x hex (256) branches should be more than sufficient for any
user (and this is likely necessary only in the first couple of layers.)
Perhaps it would be better to use the full range of ascii characters --
this would give about 95 possibilities (case sensitive) at each level
whilst using only 1 character per level.

regards

On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 at 9:37:48 AM UTC+2, PMario wrote:

On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 at 7:13:45 AM UTC+2, Matabele wrote:

This could be implemented if each tiddler were allocated a hex string as
an ID which marked it's position in the TOC -- 16 branches at each level (I
suppose two hex characters might be used for the first level -- allowing
256 branches at the root level.)

What if I have 257 elements in the the root? We need to expand to 3 bytes
aka 4096 possibilities. but what if we need 4097 elements in one
hierarchy level.
IMO Murphy's law [1] applies here.

Murphy's law is an adage or epigram that is typically stated as: *Anything
that can go wrong, will go wrong.*

-m

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murphy%27s_law

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Encrypt Tiddler Plugin: now with batch encrypt of tiddlers (Plugin Release)

Hi Mark

Could you take a moment to explain what encryption protocol you used, and
what the bit equivalent would be? I recall that there was an encryption
plugin for TWC that had had something like 56 bits.

TiddlyWiki uses the Stanford JavaScript Library with it's default settings
of 128 bit encryption keys:

http://bitwiseshiftleft.github.io/sjcl/

Best wishes

Jeremy.

Thanks!
Mark

On Saturday, April 4, 2015 at 3:09:17 PM UTC-7, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:

Hello everyone.

I just updated my first plugin ( it's been a long time since I did it):
Encrypt Tiddler plugin.
For those that don't know what it does this plugin adds the ability to
encrypt your tiddlers individually.
One of the new features of 2.1 version (very demanded by the community)
is the ability to encrypt several tiddlers at once. This is now possible
from the control panel.

Take a look at:

http://danielorodriguez.com/TW5-EncryptTiddlerPlugin/

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Re: [tw] Should we stick to names as ID in external stores?

Hello Jeremy, 

I don't know why every time someone talks about UIDS everyone thinks 
automatically in titles. I'm not talking about using this IDS as titles, 
neither to identify a tiddler in any way. We are just talking about assigning 
one unique ID to each tiddler. Why is this so problematic? Why everyone thinks 
that we want to kill the current title mechanism? It's not about that. 

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[tw] Re: Wikitext for tags?

2015-05-27 Thread PMario

I'd suggest, to use this special syntax, which is already part of the core. 

tag Productivity, tag Larry Elliot or

*tag Productivity
**tag test
*tag Larry Elliot 

so you can create nice outlines for your ideas. 

-mario

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Re: [tw] Problem Updating TW5 from beta

Hi Jan

I'd suggest doing the upgrade again from your original version, but this
time uncheck the following two tiddlers:

$:/macros/penguin/age.js
$:/macros/skeeve/dateTime.js

Are you still seeing a crash when you open the upgraded file?

Best wishes

Jeremy

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Hi,

I've run into a problem and would really appreciate if someone could help
me. I've been using TW5 since one of the early beta versions, with the
scripts provided here:

http://a-penguin-in-redmond.blogspot.ch/2014/02/creating-baby-journal-with-tiddlywiki-5.html
Now, if I try to update my TW, on opening I get numerous error messages
(see screenshot). Is there something that can be done here?

thank you very much in advance, Jan

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] resizable SideBar

I'd welcome a pull request for the additional attributes on the edit-text
widget. The docs will also need to be updated; the modified tiddler should
go in the prerelease edition so that it doesn't get included in content
refreshes of 5.1.8.

Best wishes

Jeremy.

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 10:48 PM, Mat matiasg...@gmail.com wrote:

BTW, please do write an issue so Jeremy sees it, as you mention (or better
yet, a pull ;-) I think the proposal makes sense and I see this as a useful
function. I hope we will be able to make CSS and stylesheet settings much
more user friendly, partly by using this type of range element.

:-)

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[tw] Problem Updating TW5 from beta

2015-05-27 Thread Jan Rothenberger

Hi,

I've run into a problem and would really appreciate if someone could help 
me. I've been using TW5 since one of the early beta versions, with the 
scripts provided here:
http://a-penguin-in-redmond.blogspot.ch/2014/02/creating-baby-journal-with-tiddlywiki-5.html
Now, if I try to update my TW, on opening I get numerous error messages 
(see screenshot). Is there something that can be done here?

thank you very much in advance, Jan

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Re: [tw] Should we stick to names as ID in external stores?

This topic has come up several times; I probably ought to add a faq to
tiddlywiki.com/dev.

Here's one thread from last year about it:

https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/Y1V7oyBLpSs/discussion

The tl;dr version is that TiddlyWiki already uses unique IDs to identify
tiddlers, the title field. The intention is that people should be able to
use GUIDs as titles if that is what they need but that support is not yet
complete (eg more support for caption field). I believe that the end
result would be the same as the proposal here.

To respond to a few points in the thread:

* Wikis generally do not use IDs because it means that it is no longer
possible to uniquely identify a tiddler with a human readable name
* GUIDs are not needed to tiddler revision handling
* I don't think the suggestion in #1550 is feasible; I've added a note there
* Federation does not need GUIDs, nor for tiddler titles to be globally
unique

Best wishes

Jeremy.

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I think, the important part here is. Users will always face tiddler names
only. .. you can easily prefix them.

As you said, we want to focus on humans. People usually don't want to add
a prefix to each of their tiddlers only to determine the wiki or user they
belongs to. Also, we don't have anything that enforces usernames.

IMO we should go with an UUID V4 as a tiddler ID.

Felix has an algorithm in his tiddlymap library. ... IMO we should make a
pull request for the core.

It is very, very unlikely, that Jeremy will change this. ... but it
doesn't prevent us from adding an UUID field with plugins.
We as plugin authors should just find a common path. ..

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Re: [tw] Should we stick to names as ID in external stores?

Hi Danielo

I understand that you are suggesting a new UUID field that is independent
of the title field. I'm responding that there is already a unique ID field
for tiddlers; it's pointlessly expensive to enforce two unique IDs. Hence
my proposal of what I think is a viable way for TiddlyWiki to be extended
to support GUIDs.

Best wishes

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Hello Jeremy,

I don't know why every time someone talks about UIDS everyone thinks
automatically in titles. I'm not talking about using this IDS as titles,
neither to identify a tiddler in any way. We are just talking about
assigning one unique ID to each tiddler. Why is this so problematic? Why
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about that.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Run Tiddlywiky wrapped in nodemon?

Hi Mario

So yes a process watcher may be the right tool for your OP. The only
problem is, that how do you know, that the server failed?
The tw app can hang, but the process may be still alive. imo there is no
hartbeat at the moment.

One approach would be to intermittently perform an HTTP HEAD operation on
/, and assume that the process is crashed if it doesn't respond in 30
seconds.

Best wishes

Jeremy.

-mario

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[tw] Re: [TW5] resizable SideBar

2015-05-27 Thread Måns

Hi @Mat

I love reading your Twaddle TW site. It full of great ideas!! :-P
It's also great fun to play with the sliders!
I was wondering if it would be possible to add arrow up arrow down shortcut
key bindings when you hover over the slider? Something like mouse dragging
up or down on a value field is very common in programs like Unity, Blender
etc ... works great for those.

When you alter the story width, tiddler width etc. - you'd really wish
you'd have some kind of a draggable controlpoint in the middle between the
story column and the right sidebar to control all at once :-)

Thank you for Twaddle - It's very inspiring/inspired work!!

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

Den onsdag den 27. maj 2015 kl. 18.36.35 UTC+2 skrev Mat:

@Edward (and perhaps also @Eric)

I have now updated the range sliders to set the sized in the Theme Tweaks,
including for the Sidebar as you ask for Edward. Go to the ControlpanelSize
Sliders
http://twaddle.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2FControlPanel:%24%3A%2FControlPanel
.

It is a hovering frame to keep it in place even when you're changing
values. It stays in place for most of them at least. A more serious
difficulty is what Eric hints brings up; there is no min or max which makes
some sliders very sensitive. I've indicate where to be careful.

Hope to improve it in the future.

:-)

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 2:20:39 AM UTC+2, Edward Bassett wrote:

Hi, all.
I have been using TWC for several years now, and consider it a fine piece
of software - kudos to Jeremy and all contributors.
I am now evaluating TW5, and it looks even more impressive, a feat of
design.
Anyway, I have a few questions, which I will submit in separate threads
in order to keep the discussion followable.

Question 4:
Is it possible to have a runtime-resizable SideBar?
I guess that would have to be done with HTML frames.
I mean the kind of thing where the *browser* puts a draggable border
between the StoryRiver and the SideBar, and it's a trivial matter of
dragging that border to arbitrarily resize the two frames on either side of
it.

I am aware of http://tw5tristate.tiddlyspot.com/ and
http://inmysocks.tiddlyspot.com/#TiddlerWidthSettings, and they are both
excellent options, but not *exactly* what I am looking for - so I might as
well ask.

Cheers,
-Edward

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[tw] Re: [TW5] resizable SideBar

2015-05-27 Thread Måns

Hi Edward

I find it's much easier to just click once on the slider control and then 
 use the keyboard left/right arrow keys to change the value; that gives a 
 much smoother experience.


Aah - It actually works like that :-) Thank you for pointing that out :-)

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Re: [tw] Wikitext for tags?

I have to say that I also love the idea of writting several tiddlers at 
once. The same for fields, and tags.
That combined with my keyboard snippets plugin could increase my 
productivity in an awesome way!

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Re: [tw] Wikitext for tags?

Are you suggesting a mode in which tiddler metadata can be included in a
special format in the main tiddler text area? I quite like that idea.

+1
This would be perfect for faster workflow and note taking - IF the decided
upon special format is designed with speed and simplicity in mind.

What would be the advantage with removal? I'm not against it, just trying
to understand pros and cons.

Perhaps if the text box started with a period . then the special
processing would be triggered.

Personally, I would prefer to specify the commands on a more immediate
need basis. Marking it out at beginning of tiddler means you either must
know it when starting or you must jump up there again, put the mark and go
down again.

...and if the parser can recognize this initial dot and the following
dispersed markup commands, why can it not simply skip the initial dot step?

We could use the same technique to split long tiddlers, something like
this:

* Given a long tiddler that needs to be split
* Edit it
* Add a . at the top
* Insert the string - TiddlerTitle at each tiddler split point

I (VERY much) like the idea to mark out splits for transclusion, but the
user should not be forced to invent titles. I propose that if no title is
inserted, then the current title is reused but with a number after (just
like New Tiddler 1, New Tiddler 2 etc).

Is there a standard notation symbol for split or alike, that can be
reused here? What do pro editors use? - is OK I guess

Or how about taking advantage of the standard heading markup; !, !! and
!!!. These would probably often pretty natural places to split. For this
case, an initial indicating command (e.g the dot) would make sense) OR
there is a notation that takes advantage of the established !, such as
perhaps ! !! etc. This would also make it easy to add splitout to an
already existing document that uses regular headers.

Further, IMO there should be an (optional) end splitout here mark. If
there is no such, then it continues until either the next (begin) splitout
mark or to the end of the tiddler.

End splitout could perhaps be ! or !.(...which, btw, would open up
for nested super splitting by adding the to the different header
levels in a document. One long document that has headings that include
subheadings woudl split out first the top level and then traverse down in
each new tiddler to split out sublevels. All in the name of tiddler
philosophy! ;-) Seriously, don't let this last bit discourage anyone. It is
something that could be implemented later.

It is also worth considering if, on split, it should be possible to add
metadata?

:-)

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Re: [tw] Wikitext for tags?



 How would the syntax for a 'value pair' look like? Sth like: 
 .fieldname:value? 


The point aside (see my post above), this makes sense. Specifically then, 
perhaps tag:value on a single line (and perhaps followed by a blank line?). 
The bit about on a single line (and perhaps followed by a blank line?) 
would also enable for multiple tags, i.e simply tag:value1 value 2 value3 
...


BTW, mGTD/mGSD 
http://mgsd.tiddlyspot.com/demo3.html#%5B%5BAbout%20Quick%20Add%5D%5D has 
the quick add » feature (look at top menu, in center). The link I provide 
is a permalink to the instructions for this quick add feature. Basically it 
is a notation to create multiple tiddlers, with tags, in one go. Very 
powerful.


:-)

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[tw] Re: [TW5] resizable SideBar



 I find it's much easier to just click once on the slider control and then 
 use the keyboard left/right arrow keys to change the value; that gives a 
 much smoother experience.


AH - that was news to me! In deed smoother for what otherwise can easily 
shoot off in some direction.

:-)

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Re: [tw] Should we stick to names as ID in external stores?

Hello Jeremy

I think we are moving from the original topic. My real question was about 
external databases. So I want advise from the community and more 
experienced users if sync-adaptors should take care of giving each tiddler 
an unique ID or we should stick to tiddlers titles to make the process more 
easy.

Thanks to anyone.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] resizable SideBar

@Edward (and perhaps also @Eric)

Hope to improve it in the future.

:-)

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 2:20:39 AM UTC+2, Edward Bassett wrote:

Cheers,
-Edward

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Re: [tw] Wikitext for tags?

2015-05-27 Thread Måns

Hi @Alex @Jeremy

Are you suggesting a mode in which tiddler metadata can be included in a
special format in the main tiddler text area? I quite like that idea.

The approach I prefer is where the content of the text box is transformed
on entry into the individual fields (that means that re-editing a tiddler
the special metadata markup would have been removed). Perhaps if the text
box started with a period . then the special processing would be
triggered.

How would the syntax for a 'value pair' look like? Sth like:
.fieldname:value?

We could use the same technique to split long tiddlers, something like
this:

* Given a long tiddler that needs to be split
* Edit it
* Add a . at the top
* Insert the string - TiddlerTitle at each tiddler split point

Then, on entry, the tiddler would be split into the indicated individual
tiddlers, and the original tiddler would get a sequence of transclusions to
include the individual tiddlers.

+1 Nice idea :-)

@Eric made a SplitTiddler html form http://tiddlytools.com/#SplitTiddler for
TWC which would let you decide what to do after the split function had been
run. If some of this could be options then you might even be able to decide
to create a filtered list of sub tiddlers from the newly created
tiddlers - based on tags, titles, fields or what ever :-)

I really like the idea of being able to add fields (and tags) or create new
tiddlers as you write wiki text in a tiddler.
Please keep on developing on that idea :-)

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

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[tw] Re: [TW5] resizable SideBar

2015-05-27 Thread Edward Bassett

Nice, thanks.
I find it's much easier to just click once on the slider control and then
use the keyboard left/right arrow keys to change the value; that gives a
much smoother experience.
Cheers,
-Edward

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Cheers,
-Edward

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[tw] Re: [TW5] resizable SideBar

@Måns

Yes, I agree. I think this would be possible:

Make the story column width and the sidebar fetch their position value from
the same source (see below).
A range slider is stretched (CSS?) across the screen and perhaps made
invisible except the handle (CSS!).
The source is set by multiplying: slidervalue * 0.01 * screenwidth
(the 0.01 is to get per cent)

If the rangeslider is in a regular tiddler, then it will only show up when
the tiddler is open.
Or there could be some checkbox in ctrlpanel to make the handle show up.
This could control to show several such handles on the screen for
drag-resizing...

Thank you for Twaddle - It's very inspiring/inspired work!!

Thanks for your kind words. If you find inaccuracies - false claims, wrong
credits, missing warranted credits (many for sure!!!) or anything you feel
isn't right - please tell me.

:-)

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[tw] TiddlyMap – Showing Missing Tiddlers

2015-05-27 Thread jimbuffat

Hello

I like very much the self-completing aspect of Tiddlywiki. It is able to 
show up very clearly lacking content or else non satisfied implications 
of content already included. Lately, I have begun to play with this 
feature: content may be related in a way somewhat less crude than a simple 
link. I call it crude since this approach assumes a very active and alert 
writer, a determined writer. I, in the contrary want to be surprised by 
relationships in content, that may be generated over a long period of time. 
Loss of control is wished.

What I do, is to link tiddlers to missing tiddlers and I'd like to have 
them shown in TiddlyMap. Does anyone know if this is possible? If not, 
would there be a way make a tag for each missing link in a tiddler?

Thanks,
Jim

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Re: [tw] Should we stick to names as ID in external stores?

2015-05-27 Thread Felix Küppers

Hi Jeremy,


 I understand that you are suggesting a new UUID field that is independent 
 of the title field. I'm responding that there is already a unique ID field 
 for tiddlers; it's pointlessly expensive to enforce two unique IDs.


I don't think it is pointless in Danielo's case because the title is a 
unique id field but when it changes he has no way to update any 
attachments in his database that linked to the object that was identified 
by the title.

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Re: [tw] Re: Wikitext for tags?

2015-05-27 Thread Alex Hough

yes Mario,

I like that... thanks!

Alex

On 27 May 2015 at 15:00, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote:

I'd suggest, to use this special syntax, which is already part of the
core.

tag Productivity, tag Larry Elliot or

*tag Productivity
**tag test
*tag Larry Elliot

so you can create nice outlines for your ideas.

-mario

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Re: [tw] Should we stick to names as ID in external stores?

2015-05-27 Thread Felix Küppers

Hi Danielo,

if you do *not* have any attachments and just want to recreate the wiki 
(its tiddlers) in a database* then it would be ok to stick with titles as 
ids.*

Everytime Tiddlywiki deletes a tiddler you delete the document in the db.
Everytime a tiddler gets modified (added or changed) you update the tiddler 
in your db.

This works well for a non-relational db where data is not linked (no 
attachments).

*In a relational db you will lose track when renaming is done* (as you 
already said) just as links break in tiddlywiki. In this case I will add a 
plugin that adds UUIDs to tiddlers.

-Felix

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Re: [tw] Should we stick to names as ID in external stores?



 I think we are moving from the original topic. My real question was about 
 external databases. So I want advise from the community and more 
 experienced users if sync-adaptors should take care of giving each tiddler 
 an unique ID or we should stick to tiddlers titles to make the process more 
 easy.



@Danielo - which aspect of using tiddler titles, unique as they are, is 
inappropriate for your use case? Would you be more happy if the ID is e.g a 
number? - why in that case? 

Could it be that you want a very specific *format* on the ID? (and which 
exact format in that case?) Surely different external databases, as well as 
different sync-adaptors, use different formats for IDs?


:-)
TWaddle.tiddlyspot

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Re: [tw] Should we stick to names as ID in external stores?

2015-05-27 Thread Felix Küppers

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 5:24:20 PM UTC+2, PMario wrote:

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 11:55:06 AM UTC+2, Felix Küppers wrote:

Your problem of losing related attachments is not nice but you have NO
CHANCE to fix that as it is the tiddlywiki design and the same as
link-breaking when changing the title. I think the only reason tiddlywiki
preferred titles as primary key over ids is because in contrast to a db the
user is directly involved and linking titles is easier to handle than
linking ids or adding a layer that abstracts the id.

This is because TWs initial nature is a single file based system and non
techy users get very confused by machine IDs.

It is very, very unlikely, that Jeremy will change this. ... but it
doesn't prevent us from adding an UUID field with plugins.
We as plugin authors should just find a common path. ..

yes, mario. I agree. I think there is a strong interest in having each
tiddler getting a unique id as field for various reasons!

-mario

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[tw] Re: How to use list filters with tm-modal

2015-05-27 Thread 'c pa' via TiddlyWiki

Try This: (You'll have to define your own filter)

\define modalLink(tiddlerName,message)
$button message=tm-modal 
parammodalLink=$tiddlerName$ 
class=tc-btn-invisible tc-tiddlylink

$message$
/$button
\end

$list filter=[tag[done]]
$macrocall $name=modalLink
tiddlerName=currentTiddler
message=currentTiddler
/
br/
/$list


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[tw] TiddlyWiki 5 can use WYSIWYG plugin ?

2015-05-27 Thread Chris Pei

Does TiddlyWiki 5 has a WYSIWYG plugin ?  If does, where can I get it? 
Thanks

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[tw] upgrade.html does still requires an upgrade on each tiddler

2015-05-27 Thread TD

I've downloaded my V2.6.1 TWC from tiddlyspot.  I've opened both a local 
and remote version of upgrade.html in Firefox.  I drop my tiddlyspot file 
onto upgrade.html, import all and save.  When I open the upgraded file all 
of the tiddlers still have the upgrade button.  I thought this process was 
supposed to prevent that.  How can I make it work so I don't have to 
upgrade each of my many tiddlers?

Thanks,
TD

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[tw] Re: upgrade.html does still requires an upgrade on each tiddler

2015-05-27 Thread TD



With the message: This tiddler is written in TiddlyWiki Classic wiki text 
format, which is not fully compatible with TiddlyWiki version 5. See 
http://tiddlywiki.com/static/Upgrading.html for more details. 

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[tw] Re: Creating a simple checklist with checkboxes inside a tiddler

2015-05-27 Thread 'c pa' via TiddlyWiki

Hey guys sorry forgot to include the rest of the instructions

Once you've created your tiddler named checklist with the above mentioned 
code, Then in any other tiddler you can type the following and get your 
checklist items

* {{This is a test||checklist}}
* {{This is another test||checklist}}

With this method you should be able to list all of your completed items 
using this code: (untested)

$list filter=[[$:/_cpa/Data/todos]tags[]]

/$list

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[tw] Re: upgrade.html does still requires an upgrade on each tiddler

2015-05-27 Thread TD


Sorry, I meant upgrade all, not import all

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[tw] [TWC] Help Sorting a treeview

2015-05-27 Thread Arc Acorn

This is the plugin I'm using:
http://dots.tiddlyspace.com/TreeviewPluginPlugin2


As of now trees with leading numbers sort like:

1 10 100 11 12 13 2 3 4 5...

I know the reason is how strings are sorted and a naturalsort function 
needs to be worked in:
eg: 

function naturalSort(ar, index){
var L= ar.length, i, who, next, 
isi= typeof index== 'number', 
rx=  /(\.\d+)|(\d+(\.\d+)?)|([^\d.]+)|(\.(\D+|$))/g;
function nSort(aa, bb){
var a= aa[0], b= bb[0], a1, b1, i= 0, n, L= a.length;
while(iL){
if(!b[i]) return 1;
a1= a[i];
b1= b[i++];
if(a1!== b1){
n= a1-b1;
if(!isNaN(n)) return n;
return a1b1? 1: -1;
}
}
return b[i]!= undefined? -1: 0;
}
for(i= 0; iL; i++){
who= ar[i];
next= isi? ar[i][index] || '': who;
ar[i]= [String(next).toLowerCase().match(rx), who];
}
ar.sort(nSort);
for(i= 0; iL; i++){
ar[i]= ar[i][1];
}
}



However I can't for the life of me figure out how to incorporate the 
natural sort function into the treeview plugin 
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
. 

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