[tw] Re: [tw5] Set a Table of Contents to show with closed nodes when the tiddler is open

2015-06-01 Thread Pieter-Michiel Geuze
Thank you for your answer, and thank you more for the examples for me to 
review and learn more from.

On Friday, May 29, 2015 at 11:15:45 PM UTC-4, Greg Davis wrote:

 Hello,

 I think you have run into the problem that TiddlyWiki saves the current 
 state every time you do a save. Example when you finish editing a tiddler, 
 whatever the state of the TOC is saved to return the next time it is 
 opened. Most users try to remember to close everything up and do a save 
 before exiting the TiddlyWiki. Then it is in the state they want it to be 
 when it is opened again.

 I thought this was addressed sometime ago and finally founded it. Remember 
 to backup your TiddlyWiki before making any changes to the core like this.

 Jeremy gave an example of doing this in the thread: 
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/TiddlyWiki/CgmcRls_mkE

 Tobias also has a reference to this in his tb5 — a pocket full of tips at 
 http://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#States%20And%20Temporary%20Tiddlers

 Hope that is what you are looking for.
 Greg


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[tw] nodejs TiddlyWiki consuming lots of mem comparing to my small wiki

2015-06-01 Thread Charlie Brown
Hi all,
I'm trying the nodejs server on my humble little virtual host, and it's 
costing 252.828 MB of total 512MB of its memory, while the dumped whole 
site is only 2MB.
Did I do something wrong?
Thanks in advance!

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[tw] Re: @Danielo - TiddlyDrive, pouchdb...

2015-06-01 Thread Danielo Rodríguez


El domingo, 31 de mayo de 2015, 23:57:49 (UTC+2), Mat escribió:

 Danielo, thank you for your replies!


Thank you for your interest. 
 


  Now, if it would help *you *to have a guinea pig 


That would be nice :D
 

 but it would not make sense for me to try to set this up for actual 
 personal use because I would depend on others even for the slightest of 
 problems.


Everyone depends on someone else at some point. My way to understand what 
the hell couchdb is and how it works was a very frustrating journey: 
everyone at everyplace talked about very advanced topics. Even the official 
site jumped from very basic explanation to in-deep topics. After feeling 
like it was too much for me I left the topic apart. Then my brain started 
his own adventure of gathering knowledge without my consent, and someday I 
felt like I should check the project again, and then I understood it. So, 
my advise is: don't worry if you don't understand something at a first try, 
that is the normal thing! just read it, and leave it in your mind like a 
wild animal, and someday you will be capable of hunt it.
 
And, for this particular thing you have someone who wants to help you 
with it. My plans are to create a special edition of tiddly-wiki with 
detailed instructions about how to do this. I would love to count with your 
creativity and your point of view for the project, which are points that I 
feel very valuable. I want to be clear that my goal is to create some kind 
of blogging tool based on tiddlywiki, and not a new way to share 
tiddlywikis. But once it is setup, it should not be hard to maintain or 
update, specially when you understand the flow


 So, do I understand there are three main components to this:

- the TW (hosted anywhere)

 The tiddlywiki html file hosted anywhere with the couch adaptor plugin 
installed.
 


- the database - as hosted by Cloudant. Why, BTW, do you propose a 
couchdb service rather than a pouchdb service - or maybe there are no 
pouchdb services?

 Let's throw some light on this. CouchDB is a database, like Mongo or SQL 
can be (but very different). Cloudant is a service that allows you to have 
a database, they have databases as a service. PouchDB is a JS library that 
is aimed in having a couch-like database directly inside your browser, so 
it's not what we need for this purpose. It can also sync to a couch 
database, but we don't want this neither for this project. So what we need 
is just a single online database, and Cloudant gives you this for free.


- an adaptor - that translates a TW file into the database file 
format... or is it perhaps that it translates tiddlers so they can be 
stored in the database... meaning then that we're really talking TW on 
node.js? - And it is the adaptor thing that you're working on, yes? 

 The adaptor is the responsible of talking with the database. It can load 
tiddlers and save tiddlers from the database. The adaptor is the core of 
the plugin, and it works in any tiddlywiki.

TW_File --- save tiddler --- adaptor --- couchDB
TW_File ---loadTiddler- adaptor  couchDB
 

Again, sorry for my basic questions, but what does repo (-sitory) mean in 
 this context?


Ask as many questions as you want. On this context the repo means where the 
code of the plugin is published. The needed tools and the instructions for 
installing it are there.

I hope this is more clear by now. If not, don't hesitate to ask! You are 
able to understand whatever you want.

Regards

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Re: [tw] [TiddlyDesktop] Does not open

2015-06-01 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Thomas

That's strange. It may be worth trying clearing out TiddlyDesktop's
configuration data. Quit the application, and then open your library folder
by holding alt while opening the Finder's Go menu. Then navigate to
Application Support and delete the TiddlyWiki folder. Then try
re-opening TiddlyDesktop.

Best wishes

Jeremy.


On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Thomas Schröder reds...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I downloaded and unpacked TiddlyDesktop in my Download folder.
 And the app was working.

 Then I thought of moving it to Applications/Utilities but then there is
 the window open for a flash and then it is closed again.
 There is now no way to open a Window.

 Is there somewhere a log file to give more information?

 At the moment TiddlyDesktop is not working at all.
 I even tried to unpack a fresh version, but with the same effect.

 MacOS X 10.10.3
 TiddlyDesktop 0.0.4

 Cheers,
 Thomas

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[tw] Re: @Danielo - TiddlyDrive, pouchdb...

2015-06-01 Thread RichardWilliamSmith
Hi Danielo,

I hope I'm getting this right - the point of using a database to store the 
tiddlers is to be able to keep multiple devices/instances in sync. and you 
can also have different tiddlywiki 'views' onto the store - ie; one for 
editing and one that's a 'live' webpage, for example.

And, although you suggest cloudant, the couch db could be anywhere, right? 
On an AWS instance or on my own hardware.

I'd certainly be interested in helping you test it, if that would be useful.

Does it perform 'lazy loading' from the database? (I understand this to 
mean that it would only fetch tiddlers that it actually needs for the 
current view)

It seems it should be possible to publish material to different blogs, from 
a central database by adding tags etc. do you see that happening?

Regards,
Richard

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[tw] Re: TiddlyMap Tutorial Videos

2015-06-01 Thread Felix Küppers


 Yes. There are already some great examples already and I'm sure many 
 others will be forthcoming.


I know of Daniel's MedNotes which is great but I am not aware of other 
examples that exist. But when there is a fair amount of showcases, I'll 
definitely mention them at the demo site and it probably also makes sense 
to have them summarized in a short video.

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[tw] [TiddlyDesktop] Does not open

2015-06-01 Thread Thomas Schröder
Hi,
I downloaded and unpacked TiddlyDesktop in my Download folder.
And the app was working.

Then I thought of moving it to Applications/Utilities but then there is the 
window open for a flash and then it is closed again.
There is now no way to open a Window.

Is there somewhere a log file to give more information?

At the moment TiddlyDesktop is not working at all.
I even tried to unpack a fresh version, but with the same effect.

MacOS X 10.10.3
TiddlyDesktop 0.0.4

Cheers,
Thomas

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[tw] Re: nodejs TiddlyWiki consuming lots of mem comparing to my small wiki

2015-06-01 Thread PMario
Hi Charlie, 

If you ssh into your instance and try:

# top -n 1

you may see something similar to this, if your host runs a unix system. My 
instance here is an almost empty ubuntu system.

pmario@ubuntu:~$ top -n1
top - 18:33:02 up 0 min,  1 user,  load average: 0,31, 0,08, 0,03
Aufgaben: 232 total,   1 running, 231 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
%Cpu(s):  4,9 be,  6,2 sy,  0,0 ni, 73,3 un, 14,9 wa,  0,7 hi,  0,0 si,  
0,0 st
KiB Mem:   2040208 total,   272652 used,  1767556 free,23816 buffers
KiB Swap:  2097148 total,0 used,  2097148 free.   152248 cached Mem

  PID BENUTZER  PR  NIVIRTRESSHR S  %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND


What you see here is the OS only. 

If you start your node server and do the command again. You'll see the 
difference. That's what node and TW server command actually need. 

hope that helps.
-mario

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[tw] TW5 - Can't open my encrypted wiki due to error in tiddler

2015-06-01 Thread Dave Gantose
I have all my project notes in TW5, say 50 tiddlers or so. Encryption is 
turned on for this wiki, so when it is closed, I need to enter a password 
to open it.

I usually leave the wiki open on my desktop, but we had a power outage this 
weekend so I had to restart Firefox. When I went to open my tiddly wiki and 
entered the encryption password, a dialog box eventually popped up warning 
about an unresponsive script and asking me to click either Stop script or 
Continue.

At the same time in the background, I can see the Table of Contents 
tiddler that I tried to set up as my default tiddler. If I scroll down, I 
can see that I made some sort of mistake in this tiddler such that when it 
tries to display the titles of all tiddlers with tag notes, one tiddler's 
name is reflected over and over off to infinity.

So it's not able to finish displaying my Table of Contents tiddler, and 
if I click Continue in the Warning dialog, it eventually gives me the 
same warning again, then next time I click Continue, it quits trying and 
leaves the encryption password dialog displayed.

Likewise, if I click Stop script in the warning dialog, it immediately 
returns to the encryption password dialog.

Is there any way I can get it to skip trying to display the default Table 
of Contents tiddler and go ahead and finish decrypting the file?

Thanks,
Dave G.

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[tw] Re: @Danielo - TiddlyDrive, pouchdb...

2015-06-01 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello Richard,

El lunes, 1 de junio de 2015, 11:44:05 (UTC+2), RichardWilliamSmith 
escribió:

 Hi Danielo,

 I hope I'm getting this right - the point of using a database to store the 
 tiddlers is to be able to keep multiple devices/instances in sync. 


That applies more to my PouchDB plugin rather than the couchdb one, but 
yes, that is correct.
 

 and you can also have different tiddlywiki 'views' onto the store - ie; 
 one for editing and one that's a 'live' webpage, for example.


Correct. CouchDB has different access levels that allows us to do this.
 


 And, although you suggest cloudant, the couch db could be anywhere, right? 
 On an AWS instance or on my own hardware.


Absolutely. It is an open source project.
 


 I'd certainly be interested in helping you test it, if that would be 
 useful.


Yes, it is. In which scenario are you interested the most?
 


 Does it perform 'lazy loading' from the database? (I understand this to 
 mean that it would only fetch tiddlers that it actually needs for the 
 current view)


Exactly.
 


 It seems it should be possible to publish material to different blogs, 
 from a central database by adding tags etc. do you see that happening?


That is a bit more complex configuration if you compare with the basic one, 
but it is certainly easy. The best way to do this would be to have a 
central DB and a separate DB per blog/page. Then we can sync to each DB 
from the central one those tiddlers that matches a criteria. CouchDB allows 
us to define filtered replication, so we can make the filter as complex or 
simple as we want. Don't get scared about having multiple DBs, in couchdb a 
DB is like a table in SQL. In fact having a DB per user in other 
applications is very common.

If you are interested in trying the basic setup, take a look at this repo

https://github.com/wshallum/couchadaptor

Let me know if you need help making it work. For those interested this is 
being discussed also in this thread:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/pZzttVrh5Kg

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Re: [tw] TW5 - Can't open my encrypted wiki due to error in tiddler

2015-06-01 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Try navigating to a different tiddler - it should work even with a missing 
tiddler:




file:///mydir/file.html#HelloThere




That should skip displaying the TOC tiddler. Then you can overwrite it with a 
new tiddler of the same name.




Best wishes




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On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Dave Gantose goo...@daveware.org wrote:

 I have all my project notes in TW5, say 50 tiddlers or so. Encryption is 
 turned on for this wiki, so when it is closed, I need to enter a password 
 to open it.
 I usually leave the wiki open on my desktop, but we had a power outage this 
 weekend so I had to restart Firefox. When I went to open my tiddly wiki and 
 entered the encryption password, a dialog box eventually popped up warning 
 about an unresponsive script and asking me to click either Stop script or 
 Continue.
 At the same time in the background, I can see the Table of Contents 
 tiddler that I tried to set up as my default tiddler. If I scroll down, I 
 can see that I made some sort of mistake in this tiddler such that when it 
 tries to display the titles of all tiddlers with tag notes, one tiddler's 
 name is reflected over and over off to infinity.
 So it's not able to finish displaying my Table of Contents tiddler, and 
 if I click Continue in the Warning dialog, it eventually gives me the 
 same warning again, then next time I click Continue, it quits trying and 
 leaves the encryption password dialog displayed.
 Likewise, if I click Stop script in the warning dialog, it immediately 
 returns to the encryption password dialog.
 Is there any way I can get it to skip trying to display the default Table 
 of Contents tiddler and go ahead and finish decrypting the file?
 Thanks,
 Dave G.
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[tw] Re: TW5 - Can't open my encrypted wiki due to error in tiddler

2015-06-01 Thread Dave Gantose
Thank you, Jeremy, that did it. Obviously I am still learning as I go...
Dave G.

On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 9:48:55 AM UTC-4, Dave Gantose wrote:

 I have all my project notes in TW5, say 50 tiddlers or so. Encryption is 
 turned on for this wiki, so when it is closed, I need to enter a password 
 to open it.

 I usually leave the wiki open on my desktop, but we had a power outage 
 this weekend so I had to restart Firefox. When I went to open my tiddly 
 wiki and entered the encryption password, a dialog box eventually popped up 
 warning about an unresponsive script and asking me to click either Stop 
 script or Continue.

 At the same time in the background, I can see the Table of Contents 
 tiddler that I tried to set up as my default tiddler. If I scroll down, I 
 can see that I made some sort of mistake in this tiddler such that when it 
 tries to display the titles of all tiddlers with tag notes, one tiddler's 
 name is reflected over and over off to infinity.

 So it's not able to finish displaying my Table of Contents tiddler, and 
 if I click Continue in the Warning dialog, it eventually gives me the 
 same warning again, then next time I click Continue, it quits trying and 
 leaves the encryption password dialog displayed.

 Likewise, if I click Stop script in the warning dialog, it immediately 
 returns to the encryption password dialog.

 Is there any way I can get it to skip trying to display the default Table 
 of Contents tiddler and go ahead and finish decrypting the file?

 Thanks,
 Dave G.


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Re: [tw] TW5 CodeMirror bug when using Vim emulation

2015-06-01 Thread R Ax
Hi Jeremy and others,

Any progress on this?

Alternatively, can anyone tell me how to invoke an external editor for a 
tiddler. I'd rather be working with a fully-functional version of Vim than 
the cutdown version as implemented by CodeMirror.

Thanks

On Monday, May 18, 2015 at 11:02:40 PM UTC+1, R Ax wrote:

 Hi Jeremy,

 Thanks for the response.

 I can't reproduce the bug on the tiddlywiki site because I can't save 
 changes there. To reproduce the bug yourself, do the following;

 1. Create a new tiddler titled $:/config/CodeMirror.
 2. Paste the following code into this new tiddler;

 {
   require: [
   $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/mode/javascript/javascript.js,
   $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/addon/dialog/dialog.js,
   $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/addon/search/searchcursor.js,
   $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/addon/edit/matchbrackets.js,
   $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/keymap/vim.js,
   ],
   configuration: {
   keyMap: vim,
   matchBrackets:true,
   showCursorWhenSelecting: true
   }
 }

 3. Set the type field of this tiddler to application/json.
 4. Refresh for the changes to take effect.
 5. If you now attempt to edit any tiddler, you will see a block cursor. Vim 
 is a modal editor and starts off in command mode.
 6. Press the 'i' key. This will switch to insert mode. You can now type as 
 for a normal editor.
 7. Entering the '#' or '~' key however should reproduce the error I described.

 Further details on configuring CodeMirror (which is where I got the 
 information on setting it up from) are to
 be found in $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/usage.

 Thank you so much for your help.



 On Monday, May 18, 2015 at 7:13:36 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi R Ax

 My apologies for the late reply. I'm not familiar with vim; could you 
 kindly list the step-by-step instructions that will reproduce the bug on 
 http://tiddlywiki.com/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/ 
 http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Ftiddlywiki.com%2Fplugins%2Ftiddlywiki%2Fcodemirror%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNEG9hARuVPZYVYFqrjxcTi-wVMMtQ
 ?

 Many thanks,

 Jeremy,

 On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 7:16 PM, R Ax rax@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi guys,

 I get the following error message whenever I type the characters '#' or 
 '~' in insert mode of vim emulation for CodeMirror.

 TypeError: keyName.indexOf is not a function

 I noticed a similar bug reported a year ago which was triggered by the 
 '=' character and which since appears to have been fixed.

 Any ideas?

 regards

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[tw] What to use for a site header, $:/tags/PageTemplate or $:/tags/AboveStory ?

2015-06-01 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello

I can remember that in the good old days we usually use $:/tags/PageTemplate 
to position a tiddler out of the story river. It would need position fixed 
aditionally. Recently I saw that $:/tags/AboveStory is used for site 
headers. The problem with this setup is that I can not get rid of the top 
margin,padding or whatever it is. This only happens on thin windows. On 
normal ones I can use a css with top: -20 but that does not work when
the breakpoint is reached, even if the sidebar is hidden.

I would be grateful by any advice.

Thanks in advance.

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[tw] Re: Wikitext for tags?

2015-06-01 Thread Alex Hough
Just thinking out loud. The hashtag is the new CamelCase, it adds a Tag
inline rather than creating a link..

Perhaps rendering hashtags as tag pills would make sense...

A search for the hashtag would provide a list of similarly tagged tiddlers,
as in Twitter, but hashtags in a text could be added to a hashtag field
too- if it would be helpful to internals

1. This would make TiddlyWiki interface more with Twitter and emphasise the
similarities in philosophy.
2. The tag pill could have a new here type button, a new tid is created
with the tag and a field recoding the name of the tiddler.

I think that hashtags have surpassed CamelCase: the [[Square brackets]] do
it for me. Looking at Ward's Wiki, it's the camel case which dates it

The status of hashtags is now such that they are widely understood - they
are not a passing fad

The dot prefix proposed by Jeremy coud would in a similar way, buttons for
refactoring long tiddlers.

Best wishes



Alex

On Friday, 29 May 2015, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Mario, Mat, Alex,

 To Mario's point, this stuff wouldn't be parsed by the usual wikitext
 parser. We'll need a new pre-parser that processes this markup.

 Let's imagine that we added support for the following way to add tags to
 the current tiddler:

 .#tag
 .#another tag

 That markup needs to end up with the creation of an actual tag field so
 that the tag mechanisms can work on it. We can't just use the markup above
 as the record of the tags applied to the tiddler.

 Retaining that markup within the tiddler would lead to duplication of
 data, which may not be a massive problem for a tag, but doesn't look
 sensible with operations like exploding a tiddler into subtiddlers; the
 whole point of that operation is to split the original tiddler up;
 retaining the wikitext with the markup would negate that.

 So, that's why the way that I think about this is more like a shorthand
 command line syntax for typing tiddlers, which is expanded at the point
 that the tiddler is confirmed.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.






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 yes Mario,

 I like that... thanks!

 Alex

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 I'd suggest, to use this special syntax, which is already part of the
 core.

 tag Productivity, tag Larry Elliot or

 *tag Productivity
 **tag test
 *tag Larry Elliot

 so you can create nice outlines for your ideas.

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[tw] Re: @Danielo - TiddlyDrive, pouchdb...

2015-06-01 Thread Mat
@Danielo - thanks again for your kind replies! My hesitation to learn is 
not really about being afraid of it. It is more a matter of picking my 
fights. I have a zillion TW ideas (not to mention outside of TW) and this 
makes me think twice before engaging in things I barely understand because 
it means I don't have time for the things that I do understand and hope to 
create. But, admittedly, I've come to a point in my life when I find myself 
sometimes concluding that Ok, this is just not my area... but kick a$$ in 
another and that's how it is even if our parents told us we can become 
anything. 

However, you create really cool stuff and if my virgin mind is of actual 
use to help your development then what do I do to start? I have signed up 
for a Cloudant account. Is the next step to [try to] follow the 
instructions given in your couchadaptor git repo 
https://github.com/danielo515/couchadaptor?

 

 And, for this particular thing you have someone who wants to help you 
 with it. My plans are to create a special edition of tiddly-wiki with 
 detailed instructions about how to do this. I would love to count with your 
 creativity and your point of view for the project, which are points that I 
 feel very valuable. I want to be clear that my goal is to create some kind 
 of blogging tool based on tiddlywiki, and not a new way to share 
 tiddlywikis. But once it is setup, it should not be hard to maintain or 
 update, specially when you understand the flow


I like what I hear and after your explanations I understand the concept 
better.


Ok. Now night. Tomorrow I will present a cool new thing to everyone!


:-)
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[tw] Re: [TWC] Help Sorting a treeview

2015-06-01 Thread Arc Acorn
Looking at things store.getTaggedTiddlers() = 
store.reverseLookup(tags...etc)
Which sorts it's output by the titles titles using sortTiddlers().

So it looks like the actual problem is somewhere in this part of the core:
Which looks like a basic sort function so I just have to figure out how to 
turn it into a natural sort function. 

// Sort a list of tiddlers
TiddlyWiki.prototype.sortTiddlers = function(tiddlers,field)
{
var asc = +1;
switch(field.substr(0,1)) {
case -:
asc = -1;
field = field.substr(1);
break;
case +:
field = field.substr(1);
break;
}
if(TiddlyWiki.standardFieldAccess[field]) {
if(field==title) {
tiddlers.sort(function(a,b) {return a[field].toLowerCase()  
b[field].toLowerCase() ? -asc : (a[field].toLowerCase() == 
b[field].toLowerCase() ? 0 : asc);});
} else {
tiddlers.sort(function(a,b) {return a[field]  b[field] ? -asc 
: (a[field] == b[field] ? 0 : asc);});
}
} else {
tiddlers.sort(function(a,b) {return a.fields[field]  
b.fields[field] ? -asc : (a.fields[field] == b.fields[field] ? 0 : +asc);});
}
return tiddlers;
};



On Saturday, May 30, 2015 at 7:22:54 AM UTC-7, Arc Acorn wrote:

 The more I tinker with this the more I think that this may require a core 
 modification. 
 Since it seems like the core issues is how: store.getTaggedTiddlers();
 gathers it's list of tiddlers. 

 On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 at 3:08:07 PM UTC-7, Arc Acorn wrote:

 This is the plugin I'm using:
 http://dots.tiddlyspace.com/TreeviewPluginPlugin2


 As of now trees with leading numbers sort like:

 1 10 100 11 12 13 2 3 4 5...

 I know the reason is how strings are sorted and a naturalsort function 
 needs to be worked in:
 eg: 

 function naturalSort(ar, index){
 var L= ar.length, i, who, next, 
 isi= typeof index== 'number', 
 rx=  /(\.\d+)|(\d+(\.\d+)?)|([^\d.]+)|(\.(\D+|$))/g;
 function nSort(aa, bb){
 var a= aa[0], b= bb[0], a1, b1, i= 0, n, L= a.length;
 while(iL){
 if(!b[i]) return 1;
 a1= a[i];
 b1= b[i++];
 if(a1!== b1){
 n= a1-b1;
 if(!isNaN(n)) return n;
 return a1b1? 1: -1;
 }
 }
 return b[i]!= undefined? -1: 0;
 }
 for(i= 0; iL; i++){
 who= ar[i];
 next= isi? ar[i][index] || '': who;
 ar[i]= [String(next).toLowerCase().match(rx), who];
 }
 ar.sort(nSort);
 for(i= 0; iL; i++){
 ar[i]= ar[i][1];
 }
 }



 However I can't for the life of me figure out how to incorporate the 
 natural sort function into the treeview plugin 
 Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: [tw] Re: nodejs TiddlyWiki consuming lots of mem comparing to my small wiki

2015-06-01 Thread Charlie Brown
God I pressed some key and sent the email mistakenly. So I will start again
with the measure. As you can see from the above, I upgraded my vhost
yesterday, so now I have more memory, but I'm still interested.
Basicly the measure shows that the nodejs wiki server takes about 209M
memory. Here's how I started the server:

/usr/lib/node_modules/tiddlywiki/tiddlywiki.js /var/www/tiddly --server 9000

Please tell me if I'm doing it wrong.

By the way, I'm using pm2 to manage the process. The parameter's are the
same. And the memory usage are about the same, too.
2015年6月2日 上午12:38于 PMario pmari...@gmail.com写道:

 Hi Charlie,

 If you ssh into your instance and try:

 # top -n 1

 you may see something similar to this, if your host runs a unix system. My
 instance here is an almost empty ubuntu system.

 pmario@ubuntu:~$ top -n1
 top - 18:33:02 up 0 min,  1 user,  load average: 0,31, 0,08, 0,03
 Aufgaben: 232 total,   1 running, 231 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
 %Cpu(s):  4,9 be,  6,2 sy,  0,0 ni, 73,3 un, 14,9 wa,  0,7 hi,  0,0 si,
 0,0 st
 KiB Mem:   2040208 total,   272652 used,  1767556 free,23816 buffers
 KiB Swap:  2097148 total,0 used,  2097148 free.   152248 cached Mem

   PID BENUTZER  PR  NIVIRTRESSHR S  %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND


 What you see here is the OS only.

 If you start your node server and do the command again. You'll see the
 difference. That's what node and TW server command actually need.

 hope that helps.
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[tw] Re: Wikitext for tags?

2015-06-01 Thread Alex Hough
... And the tag pill in the preview section would be handy for creating new
tiddlers from... I creating new tiddlers from preview, it's good for flow
to got quickly from edit mode to create new tiddler..



Alex

On Monday, 1 June 2015, Alex Hough r.a.ho...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just thinking out loud. The hashtag is the new CamelCase, it adds a
 Tag inline rather than creating a link..

 Perhaps rendering hashtags as tag pills would make sense...

 A search for the hashtag would provide a list of similarly tagged
 tiddlers, as in Twitter, but hashtags in a text could be added to a hashtag
 field too- if it would be helpful to internals

 1. This would make TiddlyWiki interface more with Twitter and emphasise
 the similarities in philosophy.
 2. The tag pill could have a new here type button, a new tid is created
 with the tag and a field recoding the name of the tiddler.

 I think that hashtags have surpassed CamelCase: the [[Square brackets]] do
 it for me. Looking at Ward's Wiki, it's the camel case which dates it

 The status of hashtags is now such that they are widely understood - they
 are not a passing fad

 The dot prefix proposed by Jeremy coud would in a similar way, buttons for
 refactoring long tiddlers.

 Best wishes



 Alex

 On Friday, 29 May 2015, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jeremy.rus...@gmail.com'); wrote:

 Hi Mario, Mat, Alex,

 To Mario's point, this stuff wouldn't be parsed by the usual wikitext
 parser. We'll need a new pre-parser that processes this markup.

 Let's imagine that we added support for the following way to add tags to
 the current tiddler:

 .#tag
 .#another tag

 That markup needs to end up with the creation of an actual tag field so
 that the tag mechanisms can work on it. We can't just use the markup above
 as the record of the tags applied to the tiddler.

 Retaining that markup within the tiddler would lead to duplication of
 data, which may not be a massive problem for a tag, but doesn't look
 sensible with operations like exploding a tiddler into subtiddlers; the
 whole point of that operation is to split the original tiddler up;
 retaining the wikitext with the markup would negate that.

 So, that's why the way that I think about this is more like a shorthand
 command line syntax for typing tiddlers, which is expanded at the point
 that the tiddler is confirmed.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.






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 yes Mario,

 I like that... thanks!

 Alex

 On 27 May 2015 at 15:00, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'd suggest, to use this special syntax, which is already part of the
 core.

 tag Productivity, tag Larry Elliot or

 *tag Productivity
 **tag test
 *tag Larry Elliot

 so you can create nice outlines for your ideas.

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Re: [tw] Re: nodejs TiddlyWiki consuming lots of mem comparing to my small wiki

2015-06-01 Thread Charlie Brown
Yeah. I mean, I'm not that dumb:) I use free instead of top:
When I'm running the nodejs wiki server:

charlie@www:~$ free -h
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:  997M   819M   177M32M   116M   189M
-/+ buffers/cache:   513M   483M
Swap: 511M   444K   511M

charlie@www:~$ free -h
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:  997M   611M   386M32M   116M   189M
-/+ buffers/cache:   304M   692M
Swap: 511M   444K   511M
Hi Charlie,

If you ssh into your instance and try:

# top -n 1

you may see something similar to this, if your host runs a unix system. My
instance here is an almost empty ubuntu system.

pmario@ubuntu:~$ top -n1
top - 18:33:02 up 0 min,  1 user,  load average: 0,31, 0,08, 0,03
Aufgaben: 232 total,   1 running, 231 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
%Cpu(s):  4,9 be,  6,2 sy,  0,0 ni, 73,3 un, 14,9 wa,  0,7 hi,  0,0 si,
0,0 st
KiB Mem:   2040208 total,   272652 used,  1767556 free,23816 buffers
KiB Swap:  2097148 total,0 used,  2097148 free.   152248 cached Mem

  PID BENUTZER  PR  NIVIRTRESSHR S  %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND


What you see here is the OS only.

If you start your node server and do the command again. You'll see the
difference. That's what node and TW server command actually need.

hope that helps.
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