Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Contributors Edition

[Jeremy Ruston]

I think I've said before that the problem with recent content updates is that a 
mistake that I made at the start of 5.1.10 means that I can't update 
tiddlywiki.com content until the next release. During the next cycle we shall 
return to the usual situation where I can push content changes as they happen.




Best wishes




Jeremy



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On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 5:27 PM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
 wrote:

> I didn't find the Github process too arduous. What was problematic was 
> waiting many weeks before simple, innocent documentation changes showed up 
> or even were pulled. Apparently, documentation is treated as code (maybe 
> because it's mixed in with the code). It doesn't seem like the proposed 
> system will fix that..  
> Everyone in the TW github documentation system has to go through a 
> signing/initiation process. They are essentially known quantities. So there 
> shouldn't be serious trust issues. 
> It's odd that you can post to the world's largest online encyclopedia and 
> see it up in 20 minutes, but you can't add a simple TW document page 
> without waiting for weeks.
> On a technical note, with the new process won't tiddlyspot become cluttered 
> with dozens or hundreds of "dead" TW's after a year or two?
> Mark
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[tw] Re: How to get the parent tag of another tag?

[Shash]

Hi Tobias,

My use case is little different. I have the below code. I have it as a 
viewtemplate. For example , I have a tag 'Chapter 1'. Under 'Chapter 1' I 
have tag 'Topic 1'. So whenever I click on Topic 1, I want the table to 
load all the tiddlers of 'Chapter 1' tag as well as tiddlers of 'Topic 1'. 
Can you please help me in this. 



<$scrollable class='tc-scrollable-demo'>
<$list filter = "[is[current]tagging[]]">
 
<$link><$view field="title"/>
  <$transclude/>  





{{!!text}}
 

 

Thanks!
Shash


On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 10:31:23 PM UTC+5:30, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Hi Shash,
>
> This...
>
> <$list filter="[is[current]tagging[]sort[listing]]">
>>
>
> ...does not give you a tiddler's tags, but this does:
>
> <>
>
> ...and then this gets you the tag parents of the first level parent tags:
>
> <>
>
> ...and if you want both, first level and second level parent tags in one 
> list, you'd be doing:
>
> <>
>
> Eventually, if you also wanted to go down the tagging tree,
> to "child tiddlers" tagging to the current one,
> you'd be replacing the tags[]  
> filter operator with
> the tagging[]  filter operator 
> in the examples above.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> — tb
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[tw] Re: Performance questions

[Erwan]

> I see here  several helpful tips 
> about performance. I want to do some tests, but ideally I would like to be 
> able to measure the impact of the different options with a certain level of 
> precision. For example, would it be possible to display the time that TW 
> takes to render a particular tiddler? Has anybody already done something 
> similar? 
>
>
Answering my own question, but better ideas are still welcome!

I found a simple but not very accurate way to do that: I display the 
current time (actually I need only the seconds) using the <> macro 
before and after transcluding the tiddler that I want to measure. since the 
format doesn't allow milliseconds I repeat the content N times in order to 
see a visible difference in seconds. For convenience I define a template 
tiddler TimeTest as follows:

<>

<$transclude />
<$transclude />
<$transclude />
<$transclude />
<$transclude />
<$transclude />
<$transclude />
<$transclude />
<$transclude />
<$transclude />

<>

Then I can measure the time taken to render MyTiddler with:

 {{MyTiddler||TimeTest}}


Erwan

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Request: Refresh Delay in edit-text widget

[Evan Balster]

Hmm...  Reading through the old topic.

So the source of objection to this feature is that the data might be erased 
if the containing widget tree is refreshed within that small interval of 
time?  I would consider that acceptable...

However, based on a quick look at the code, I can speculate about two ways 
of implementing this change that do not involve storing editor state in the 
widget tree:

   1. Have a field other than "draft.of" which marks a tiddler as a "draft" 
   for the purposes of refresh time.
   2. Modify the "change" event listener receive an optional parameter for 
   the timeout associated with any given change, allowing any source of 
   changes to define its own timeout value.

#1 could be implemented quickly by changing this line 

 
of the render code to something like:

if(!tiddler || !tiddler.hasField("draft.of") || !
tiddler.hasField("refresh.slow")) {

#2 is a system-wide change and I really don't know enough about TiddlyWiki 
to speculate what it would take.  I'll await Jeremy's input on this point.


On Tuesday, 22 September 2015 12:14:14 UTC-5, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Hi Evan,
>  
>
>> Is there any way refresh delay could be implemented as a setting of the 
>> edit-text widget?
>>
>
> For now there's only this...
>
>
> *#1494 refresh delay for text input fields*
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1494
>
> Best wishes,
>
> — tb 
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Two or more columns of tiddlers in the story river (feature request)

[Shash]

Thanks Jeremy. Hope this feature gets used in other use cases as well.

On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 7:40:55 PM UTC+5:30, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Shash
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Shash  
> wrote:
>
>> Pulling this up to see if there is any update for this feature request.
>>
>
> Not directly, no. But I have been working on the text-slicer plugin, which 
> introduces an additional story column for document preview:
>
> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/editions/text-slicer
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
> ​
>  
>
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Shash
>>
>> On Saturday, April 26, 2014 at 6:40:11 PM UTC+5:30, Alberto Molina wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Danielo,
>>>
>>> What is the Cecil view? Is that used on the community view?
>>>
>>>
>>> Its an experimental zoomable user interface. 
>>>
>>> If you want to see it in action, go to tiddlywiki.com > sidebar > 
>>> tools, and change the "Current view" to cecily.
>>>
>>> Alberto
>>>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Contributors Edition

[Hegart Dmishiv]

Hi *@Mark S.*,

On Wednesday, September 23, 2015 at 3:26:51 AM UTC+12, Mark S. wrote:
>
> On a technical note, with the new process won't tiddlyspot become 
> cluttered with dozens or hundreds of "dead" TW's after a year or two?
>

As I mentioned earlier 
 in 
this thread, I'm pretty sure the idea is that, once you've submitted your 
change and it has been accepted, you'll need to download a fresh copy of 
Jeremy's tw5.com-docs 
 instance, to get 
all the latest updates to the documentation, including those of other 
documentation contributor's. Then you just upload the latest one to your 
TiddlySpot before you continue contributing to the TW5 documentation. At 
least, that's how I understand it, I may be entirely wrong on this, but 
nobody corrected me when I mentioned it earlier.

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[tw] Split List of Tiddlers with Paging

[James]

Hi All,

I need help to split a list of tiddlers, more than 1,000, into smaller 
list.  For instance, 50 tiddlers to be listed at one time.
The idea close to the inbox in our email.

It list 50 tiddlers, when we click on the page two, it list 51 to 100.

Would it possible to make it?


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[tw] Re: How to get the parent tag of another tag?

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Shash,

This...

<$list filter="[is[current]tagging[]sort[listing]]">
>

...does not give you a tiddler's tags, but this does:

<>

...and then this gets you the tag parents of the first level parent tags:

<>

...and if you want both, first level and second level parent tags in one 
list, you'd be doing:

<>

Eventually, if you also wanted to go down the tagging tree,
to "child tiddlers" tagging to the current one,
you'd be replacing the *tags[]* filter operator with
the *tagging[]* filter operator in the examples above.

Best wishes,

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Request: Refresh Delay in edit-text widget

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Evan,
 

> Is there any way refresh delay could be implemented as a setting of the 
> edit-text widget?
>

For now there's only this...


*#1494 refresh delay for text input fields*
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1494

Best wishes,

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[tw] [TW5] Request: Refresh Delay in edit-text widget

[Evan Balster]

There's a lovely TiddlyWiki feature called refresh delay 
 
which makes preview mode usable by inducing a brief lag between the latest 
keypress and the refreshing of the wiki.  (If we transclude the content of 
a draft tiddler, it can be seen that this affects the wiki globally.)

I'm currently working on a wiki with a fairly complex dataflow (it's a 
modular automated character sheet for role-playing games) and I notice that 
my <$edit-text> widgets always trigger a refresh with every keypress.  The 
same is true of the TW5 search bar, and as a result it's possible for each 
of these to become very unresponsive when typing if there's a lot of 
information to process.

Is there any way refresh delay could be implemented as a setting of the 
edit-text widget?

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[tw] Any idea how to collapse/expand section within a tiddler

[James]

Hi all,
Is there any ways we can collapse/expand the content in the section by 
clicking on the heading?

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[tw] Re: How to delete unused Tags in TW5

[Matabele]

Hi Tobias

As I mentioned, there are other ways of achieving a true 'find & replace' 
(i.e placing the widget within a list which includes only tiddlers 
containing the tag to remove), however:
-- this is not what a user would expect from a true 'find & replace' 
function (it would be rather, a 'replace anyway' function)
-- this (therefore) renders coding simpler in many usage cases, as you 
don't have to construct a suitable filter

For example, the widget can be used like this:

<$button>
<$list> 
<$action-mangletags remove="old-tag" add="new-tag"/>



-- or like this:

<$button>
<$action-mangletags tiddler="My Target" remove="old-tag" add="new-tag"/>


-- and the results are exactly as expected (find and replace.)

regards

On Tuesday, 22 September 2015 18:04:23 UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Hi Metabele,
>  
>
>> My widget is supposed to conditionally add a tag only iff the first tag 
>> is found (in the case that both find= and add= are specified) and 
>> unconditionally add or remove the tags if only one of the attributes is 
>> specified.
>>
>
> Ah, it looked like you're always adding the tag, when defined.
> Tbh, I was looking at your code, didn't look at any documentation.
> So, yes, before hand you only added the tag when...
>
>- a tag to be removed was successfully removed
>- no tag was to be removed but just another one added
>
> Not exactly sure why you'd bind adding a tag to "only when the other was 
> removed". Why is that? Anyhow, you're right, the way I modified it I did 
> not pay close enough attention to that tiny detail. :-)
>
> Best wishes,
>
> — tb
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Re: [tw] [TW5] Suppressing formatting

[Robert Edwards]

That works. Thanks!

On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 8:20:36 PM UTC-4, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 5:04:15 PM UTC-7, Robert Edwards wrote:
>>
>> Anyway, suppose I want to have double-slashes in the body of a paragraph, 
>> and I don't want the paragraph formatted as block text (i.e. no font 
>> differences) e.g.:
>> Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Vivamus augue 
>> urna, scelerisque vel pulvinar eget, tincidunt vitae tellus. Etiam at 
>> hendrerit lacus. Vivamus pulvinar porta lacinia. Apple //e Proin a lorem 
>> bibendum, egestas ipsum ut, accumsan quam. Vivamus sagittis laoreet ex in 
>> ullamcorper. Phasellus rhoncus orci condimentum orci aliquet, quis 
>> consectetur mauris vehicula. Sed nec eleifend felis. 
>> (Text made red for emphasis but would be black in my tiddler). Any way to 
>> do this?
>>
>
> You can use the <$text> widget, like this:
> <$text text="Apple //e" />
>
> -e
>
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[tw] Re: TW Hosting

[Matabele]

Hi

I have found another hosting site which is (for me) an even easier way of 
organising and publishing my TW's: https://www.netlify.com/docs 

regards

On Monday, 7 September 2015 06:51:57 UTC+2, Matabele wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I came across BitBalloon web hosting -- this appears to be the easiest and 
> quickest way of publishing a TW (free.)
>
> 1. Go to BitBalloon 
> 2. Rename your TW to index.html
> 3. Drag and drop your site onto the page
> 4. Rename your site
> 5. If you like what you see -- sign in with your GitHub credentials
>
> Here's an example: gWiZ 
> 
>  (sorry, 
> I have yet to update my widgets -- this was for test purposes.)
>
> Haven't tried out a nodejs based TW -- but looks like it should work: 
> https://github.com/BitBalloon/bitballoon-js
>
> regards
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: Performance questions

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Hello Erwan, 

I don't know your javascript background, but measuring the time before and 
after a set of executions is the normal way to benchmark different algorithms. 
Take a look at jsperf to see if it inspires you. But in my opinion milliseconds 
are important. 

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Contributors Edition

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Jeremy,
 

> During the next cycle we shall return to the usual situation where I can 
> push content changes as they happen.
>

That is good to know!

Best wishes,

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Re: [tw] Re: Performance questions

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Erwan




I'm on my phone but you should be able to locate the performance monitoring 
that's present in the startup module render.js (from memory!). Currently one 
has to modify the source to turn it on; a pull request to make it configurable 
via a tiddler would be useful!




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[tw] Re: How to get the parent tag of another tag?

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Shash,

I have it as a viewtemplate.


You mean a conditional viewtemplate @ tb5 
? 

2 Questions:

   1. Where do you want that?
   2. How do you want it? => can you provide an example outline (formatted 
   as nested lists, right here) 

I can imagine the TableOfContents Macro 
 might be 
of help.

Or do you actually want to show all the contents?

Then this might do: makedoc @ tb5 

Then

Best wishes,

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Request: Refresh Delay in edit-text widget

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Evan,

Tbh, I never quite grasped the problem of the delay with respect to the 
refresh cycle,
as you can possibly infer from that issue's discussion thread.

If a widget is destroyed before it can submit its state, then it's gone.
If it is refreshed before it can submit its state,
the editing state should be gone or the widget should figure that it it is 
unrelateable via some hash.
If the data it is editing is changed in the store
before it commits the next keypress, so be it.

When the widget finally gets to commit the updated data,
that's what it will do, insofar as it is still able to do so.

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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyMap ideas / suggestions

[Felix Küppers]

Hi KiloLama,

you can specify and use tags in any way you want and usually TiddlyWiki
uses tags that start with a capital letter. What benefit do you expect
if TiddlyMap uses "task" instead of "Task"? It is highly irrelevant.
Really. I could also use "Quest" instead of "Task". Tags have no special
meaning apart from the meaning you are giving them. So feel free to call
your tasks "mytasks" or "tasks" in your wiki.

-Felix

On 09/22/2015 02:37 PM, K500 L501 wrote:
> Minor suggestion:
>  
> Tiddlymap V 0.9 shows the TaskManagementExample 2.0, referring to the
> TaskManagementExample in TiddlyWiki.com. While TiddlyWiki.com uses the
> tags "task" and "done", TiddlyMap uses the capitalised "Task" and
> "Done". Is that on purpose in order to create two different
> TaskManagements in one TW?
>  
> I would propose that TiddlyMap uses the same notation as
> TiddlyWiki.com, because otherwise newbies like me, who live from
> watching and copying, get easily confused.
>  
> Kind Regards
>  
> KiloLama
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 11:59 PM, Felix Küppers
> > wrote:
>
>
> > But, if you wanted an entirely different graph / view,
> > e.g. a subsystem view, then that would not be it.
>
> Just wanted to say, I recently did some experiments with the live view
> where a focussed tiddler opens an existing map that was bound to that
> tiddler in advance (instead of showing the neighbourhood). But I
> need to
> do more testing with that.
>
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[tw] Re: How to delete unused Tags in TW5

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Metabele,
 

> -- and the results are exactly as expected (find and replace.)
>

I see now, it really is (or started out) as find and replace. And so, you 
didn't expect the target to be properly fitlered first (to only apply to 
tiddlers where a given tag was found). You only wanted to add (/replace) 
when you found (a given tag) *through your widget* first ...and then later, 
you also used it as a way to always just add at tag when, nothing to "find" 
was specified.

Mhhh, I do wonder though, when you used mangletags inside a button, what 
good would be showing that button if it would not do anything in the end? 
...in the case that a tiddler did not have that tag that you wanted to 
replace with another one.

This terminology is what was a little confusing, to me, about your widget. 
When it comes to tagging, I know adding and removing ...and so a more 
complex "replace only when found" would have been the exceptional case that 
might have benefited from a dedicated flag / parameter to be triggered. But 
for you, it was the basic paradigm based on which the widget was built, and 
the rest is history. ^_^

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[tw] Re: Any idea how to collapse/expand section within a tiddler

[Eric Shulman]

On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 7:39:20 PM UTC-7, James wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Is there any ways we can collapse/expand the content in the section by 
> clicking on the heading?
>

Use a <$button> widget with class="tc-btn-invisible" to create the heading. 
 Surround the section content with a corresponding <$reveal> widget.

<$button class="tc-btn-invisible" popup=<>>

!heading text

<$reveal type="nomatch" state=<> text="">

section content goes here


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Re: [tw] [TW5] Suppressing formatting

[Eric Shulman]

On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 5:04:15 PM UTC-7, Robert Edwards wrote:
>
> Anyway, suppose I want to have double-slashes in the body of a paragraph, 
> and I don't want the paragraph formatted as block text (i.e. no font 
> differences) e.g.:
> Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Vivamus augue 
> urna, scelerisque vel pulvinar eget, tincidunt vitae tellus. Etiam at 
> hendrerit lacus. Vivamus pulvinar porta lacinia. Apple //e Proin a lorem 
> bibendum, egestas ipsum ut, accumsan quam. Vivamus sagittis laoreet ex in 
> ullamcorper. Phasellus rhoncus orci condimentum orci aliquet, quis 
> consectetur mauris vehicula. Sed nec eleifend felis. 
> (Text made red for emphasis but would be black in my tiddler). Any way to 
> do this?
>

You can use the <$text> widget, like this:
<$text text="Apple //e" />

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Suppressing formatting

[Robert Edwards]

Since this is somewhat related to the previous question I'll reply to my 
old post and add on to this thread. In the future someone might find both 
questions useful...

Anyway, suppose I want to have double-slashes in the body of a paragraph, 
and I don't want the paragraph formatted as block text (i.e. no font 
differences) e.g.:

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Vivamus augue 
urna, scelerisque vel pulvinar eget, tincidunt vitae tellus. Etiam at 
hendrerit lacus. Vivamus pulvinar porta lacinia. Apple //e Proin a lorem 
bibendum, egestas ipsum ut, accumsan quam. Vivamus sagittis laoreet ex in 
ullamcorper. Phasellus rhoncus orci condimentum orci aliquet, quis 
consectetur mauris vehicula. Sed nec eleifend felis. 

(Text made red for emphasis but would be black in my tiddler). Any way to 
do this?

Thanks

On Friday, October 24, 2014 at 10:25:38 AM UTC-4, Robert Edwards wrote:
>
> That makes is clearer. Thanks!
>
> On Friday, October 24, 2014 9:50:59 AM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> Hi Robert
>>
>> This stuff gets tricky to explain. The problem with the following example 
>> isn't so much that there's a line break missing before the three backticks, 
>> as that the previous paragraph needs a terminating double line break in 
>> order for it to be recognised as a paragraph:
>>
>> text of previous paragraph
>> ```
>> monospaced
>> ```
>>
>> I've done my best to clarify things here:
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/2bc9a7b1150fe30b9607ee24887bbab609a2b851
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Robert Edwards  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Makes sense. Perhaps a note could be added in the docs mentioning that? 
>>> As I mentioned in the other post, the docs say only that the 
>>> triple-backticks  must be at the beginning of a line and followed by a 
>>> newline, not that they must also be preceded by a newline.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 23, 2014 7:37:08 PM UTC-4, PMario wrote:


 On Thursday, October 23, 2014 10:04:59 PM UTC+2, Robert Edwards wrote:
>
> I noticed in your example you have the two newlines before the first 
> set of backticks. Is that correctly required? The docs here:
>

 yes. That's required for TW5 paragraph handling. So if there is no 
 double linebreak, TW parser things everything belongs together. 

 clone from ... will be a paragraph

 ```
 ssh: ...   will be a  block
 ```

 -m 


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[tw] Re: How to delete unused Tags in TW5

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Metabele,
 

> My widget is supposed to conditionally add a tag only iff the first tag is 
> found (in the case that both find= and add= are specified) and 
> unconditionally add or remove the tags if only one of the attributes is 
> specified.
>

Ah, it looked like you're always adding the tag, when defined.
Tbh, I was looking at your code, didn't look at any documentation.
So, yes, before hand you only added the tag when...

   - a tag to be removed was successfully removed
   - no tag was to be removed but just another one added

Not exactly sure why you'd bind adding a tag to "only when the other was 
removed". Why is that? Anyhow, you're right, the way I modified it I did 
not pay close enough attention to that tiny detail. :-)

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Contributors Edition

[Hegart Dmishiv]

Thanks *@Jeremy*, I was composing a long reply to *@Mark S*, linking to 
those previous discussions, but you replied before I had finished, making 
my reply moot. Here's the link 
 
instead to Jeremy's previous post on this issue.

On Wednesday, September 23, 2015 at 4:03:23 AM UTC+12, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I think I've said before that the problem with recent content updates is 
> that a mistake that I made at the start of 5.1.10 means that I can't update 
> tiddlywiki.com content until the next release. During the next cycle we 
> shall return to the usual situation where I can push content changes as 
> they happen.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
> —
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>
>
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 5:27 PM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddl...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> I didn't find the Github process too arduous. What was problematic was 
>> waiting many weeks before simple, innocent documentation changes showed up 
>> or even were pulled. Apparently, documentation is treated as code (maybe 
>> because it's mixed in with the code). It doesn't seem like the proposed 
>> system will fix that..  
>>
>> Everyone in the TW github documentation system has to go through a 
>> signing/initiation process. They are essentially known quantities. So there 
>> shouldn't be serious trust issues. 
>>
>> It's odd that you can post to the world's largest online encyclopedia and 
>> see it up in 20 minutes, but you can't add a simple TW document page 
>> without waiting for weeks.
>>
>> On a technical note, with the new process won't tiddlyspot become 
>> cluttered with dozens or hundreds of "dead" TW's after a year or two?
>>
>> Mark
>>  
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Re: [tw] [TW5] Documentation Contributors Edition

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Erwan


> I should be able to provide a script which handles the git stuff, but I
> would need some help with the rest, especially the question of receiving
> the request from the user.
> In case anybody wants to help, including if somebody has a server and they
> would be ok to use it for this service, I opened an issue on my repo here:
> https://github.com/erwanm/tw-aggregator/issues/81
>

I'm not sure that the request handling needs to be automated much. As I
mentioned above, any contribution is going to have to be reviewed for
accuracy and quality, so it's always going to be a semi-manual process.

Overall, I am beginning to worry that this is a bit of a rabbit hole. We're
putting effort into engineering a whole new pipeline for contribution
requests, somewhat duplicating GitHub. But we don't really know that the
contribution requests we'll get will warrant the effort. And even though
we're lowering the barriers to contribution, they are still quite high:
somebody spotting a typo needs to find out how to clone the wiki, save
their changes, and submit the change for review. That's conceptually quite
complex. It still seems that the simplest flow for people to fix simple
errors like typos is:

* Visit http://tiddlywiki.com
* Put tiddler into edit mode
* Click on the link to edit the tiddler on GitHub
* Edit the text
* Click a button

Clearly, most people would need to be taught how to perform those steps;
but so they would if they went the TiddlySpot route.

Meanwhile, there are so many other things that we could put effort into:

* Proper multi-user support for the Node.js configuration
* Establishing a community documentation space
* Getting third-party plugins into the plugin library
* Building a better library of editions
* More cool features built on top of the community aggregator
* Federation

The minimum work to get this new idea of contributing docs changes via
TiddlySpot is figuring out a process for generating a pull request. As
stated above, I think a prerequisite is that the docs plugin includes the
commit ID from which it was generated.

Best wishes

Jeremy.



>
>
> Regards,
> Erwan
>
>
>
> On 20/09/15 16:17, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Erwan
>
> So basically I think it's possible with an aggregator-like system to:
>>
>
> Have you seen the process I use with the Translators edition; it's very
> similar:
>
>
> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/editions/translators/#Extracting%20Translations
>
>
>> * how to transmit the name/address of the wiki to the aggregator?
>>
>
> RSS solved this problem by having dedicated "ping" servers. In our case,
> wikis that want to be aggregated could perform an HTTP POST to
> https://ping.tiddlywiki.com, with the payload being the URL of the wiki.
>
> That would only work if you were in a position to have a server that was
> up all the time. An alternative might be to re-use an existing
> infrastructure; for example, having wiki authors tweet their updates with a
> hashtag.
>
>
>> * if the TW repo has changed since the revision uploaded to tiddlyspot,
>> the commit would revert these modifications. as far as I know, the only way
>> to avoid that is to know exactly which revision was used on the tiddlyspot
>> wiki, but I don't see how this is possible.
>>
>
> The core documentation plugin can be given a finer grained version number
> that maybe even includes includes the commit details.
>
>
>> * I'm not sure what to do at the end: is it possible to send a github
>> pull request programmatically? or maybe the commit could be pushed to a
>> special repo or branch?
>>
>
> Yes, there's an extensive API for GitHub, and it's quite easy to create
> pull requests automatically.
>
>
>> * modifications from several wikis can cause conflicts as well
>>
>
> For tiddlywiki.com itself, I think it's reasonable that the docs should
> have a manual editorial process. Some details of a contribution might be
> inaccurate; that's OK for a community wiki, but I don't think it's OK for
> the canonical reference documentation.to
>
> Many thanks for your continued work on this stuff, it's developing nicely,
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
> (disclaimer: I'm familiar with git but no expert)
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Erwan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 15/09/15 17:18, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> Following up some recent discussions about making it easier for people to
>> contribute improvements to the documentation on tiddlywiki.com, I've
>> been experimenting with a new edition for documentation contributors:
>>
>> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/editions/tw5.com-docs/
>>
>> It's based on a new plugin $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/tw5.com-docs that
>> contains all the documentation tiddlers from tiddlywiki.com. The
>> advantage is that it's easier to tell which tiddlers you've modified, and
>> to revert to the original.
>>
>> The idea is that a would-be contributor would clone this edition to
>> TiddlySpot (step-by-step instructions forthcoming), and then make their
>> changes, saving them back to 

[tw] Re: [TWC] trunk remote file for display

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Julien,
 

> wikify(p.responseText,place);
>

> Sometime I would like to trunck the remote file to display for example 
> only lines 5 to 9.


=>

var out = p.responseText.split("\n");
out = out.splice(5, out.length-9);
wikify(out.join("\n"),place);

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[tw] Re: [TW5] New KaTeX features to the math plugin

[ben]

Its already done in the pre-release version (
http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/plugins/tiddlywiki/katex/ 

)
see:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/pp72dtOgkic

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[tw] Re: How to delete unused Tags in TW5

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Metabele / @Jeremy,

I would have hoped that with the messages we won't need *$mangletags* 
anymore, but I guess putting the fieldmangler inside a button won't work...

Find Tag:

<$select tiddler="$:/temp/find" field="text" default='(none)'>
(none)
<$list filter="[all[tiddlers]tags[]sort[title]]">
>><$view field="title"/>




Replace With: <$edit-text tiddler="$:/temp/add"  tag="input" type="text" 
placeholder="Add Me" />

<$button>
<$list filter="[tag{$:/temp/find}]">
<$fieldmangler tiddler=<>>
<$action-sendmessage message="tm-add-tag" param={{$:/temp/add}}/>
<$action-sendmessage message="tm-remove-tag" param={{$:/temp/add}}/>


<$action-setfield $tiddler={{$:/temp/find}} title={{$:/temp/add}}/>
<$action-deletetiddler $tiddler={{$:/temp/find}}/>
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-close-tiddler" $param={{$:/temp/find}}/>
replace



|!search <$link to={{$:/temp/find}}><$view tiddler={{$:/temp/find}} field="
title"/>|!replace <$link to={{$:/temp/add}}><$view 
tiddler={{$:/temp/add}} field="title"/>|
|<>|<>|

What makes the fieldmangler necessary anyway?

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[tw] Re: [TW5] New KaTeX features to the math plugin

[Bob Flandard]

Ben's link above is the right way of doing it.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] New KaTeX features to the math plugin

[Bob Flandard]

Hello arse (if that's not too informal),

I think there is a plugin with the latest version v0.5.1, but it may only 
be available through the pre-release version of Tiddlywiki here 
http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/
I'm no expert on how the plugin manager works for different versions of 
TW5, but if you go to this link and then open control panel - plugins tab - 
Get more plugins, you can install the latest version and then drag and drop 
it to your own TW. It may be that the plugin you download/update through a 
TW5.1.9 is the same plugin (I don't know), but both seem to have an older 
(wrong) version number 0.4.3 in the readme tab, so don't be put off by that.

All the best, Bob  

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[tw] [TWC]

[julien23]

Hi all

I am use to display remote code within TW using for example : 

<
>

with [[UrlContentScript]] :


var p;
 if (document.all){
   // For IE, create an ActiveX Object instance
   p = new ActiveXObject("Microsoft.XMLHTTP");
 }
 else {
   // For mozilla, create an instance of XMLHttpRequest.
   p = new XMLHttpRequest();
 }
 p.open("GET","$1",false);
 p.send(null);
wikify(p.responseText,place);



Sometime I would like to trunck the remote file to display for example only 
lines 5 to 9.
Can you please help me modify my script ?

Thank you

JBo

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Re: [tw] Re: do you think it's time for a "bare bones" edition?

[Jeremy Ruston]

Tobias said:

> The main intention of any "bare-bones" edition — as I see it —  would
probably not be to create alternative wiki-ui's, but to have a bare core
that runs smoothly, ui-less that is (less ui) ...and then a step by step
implementation of things maybe a published "site" might need, a result that
is not meant to be edited like TW, however TW perhaps being the editing
environmnent that created it, perhaps using node.

That sounds to me that the goal of the "bare bones" edition is to start
again with a simpler UI. That's already do-able without having to fork the
core plugin; as discussed above, one just redefines $:/PageTemplate to
create a custom UI.

The only goal I'm hearing for the slimmed down core plugin is to save
space. As I've said before, there's much easier ways to achieve that goal.

Just imagine that we did create an alternative core plugin that had less in
it. Then every change to TW, and every change by every plugin author, would
need to be verified in both environments. The workload is terrifying for a
project like this.

Best wishes

Jeremy.




On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 12:21 AM, Rustem <8pa...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Saturday, September 19, 2015 at 4:21:37 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> ... I worry that this discussion will devolve into a long debate about
>> which shadow tiddlers to omit ...
>>
>> You had no idea :)
>
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[tw] Re: How to delete unused Tags in TW5

[Matabele]

Hi Tobias

The $fieldmangler widget was introduced early on in the development of TW5 
-- at the time (I presume) it was the only way of manipulating tags and 
fields -- it performs an essential part of the core functionality of TW5.

I developed the $mangletags and $setfield widgets as more versatile 
replacements for the $fieldmangler widget. The new $action-setfield has in 
turn rendered much of the functionality of my $setfield widget redundant.

I would prefer a more versatile replacement for the $fieldmangler widget, 
but this would necessitate numerous edits to the core functionality of TW5. 
Perhaps, in the interim, it would be easier to include a widget in the core 
along the lines of my new $action-mangletags widget. I will publish soon, 
but I wish to first test this out in usage, as I made several changes to 
the $mangletags code (my $mangletags widget contained a logic error for 
several iterations after I first published.)

I have attached a beta version for testing purposes.

regards

On Tuesday, 22 September 2015 09:54:23 UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Hi Metabele / @Jeremy,
>
> I would have hoped that with the messages we won't need *$mangletags* 
> anymore, but I guess putting the fieldmangler inside a button won't work...
>
> Find Tag:
> 
> <$select tiddler="$:/temp/find" field="text" default='(none)'>
> (none)
> <$list filter="[all[tiddlers]tags[]sort[title]]">
> >><$view field="title"/>
> 
> 
> 
>
> Replace With: <$edit-text tiddler="$:/temp/add"  tag="input" type="text" 
> placeholder="Add Me" />
>
> <$button>
> <$list filter="[tag{$:/temp/find}]">
> <$fieldmangler tiddler=<>>
> <$action-sendmessage message="tm-add-tag" param={{$:/temp/add}}/>
> <$action-sendmessage message="tm-remove-tag" param={{$:/temp/add}}/>
> 
> 
> <$action-setfield $tiddler={{$:/temp/find}} title={{$:/temp/add}}/>
> <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler={{$:/temp/find}}/>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-close-tiddler" $param={{$:/temp/find}}/>
> replace
> 
>
>
> |!search <$link to={{$:/temp/find}}><$view tiddler={{$:/temp/find}} 
> field="title"/>|!replace <$link to={{$:/temp/add}}><$view 
> tiddler={{$:/temp/add}} field="title"/>|
> |<>|<>|
>
> What makes the fieldmangler necessary anyway?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> — tb
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Fields Tag Template

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Andrew,

I'm one who thinks there are no "stupid" questions, only "stupid" answers.

Just to be clear, global does not (necessarily) mean controlpanel, it only 
means there's one or more system tiddlers holding the configuration 
appropriately, separate from the script, macro or template that uses it to 
build the desired output.

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Re: [tw] Re: do you think it's time for a "bare bones" edition?

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Jeremy,
 

> Just imagine that we did create an alternative core plugin that had less 
> in it. Then every change to TW, and every change by every plugin author, 
> would need to be verified in both environments. The workload is terrifying 
> for a project like this.
> 
>

I totally agree, especially with "bare-bones" being rather losely defined.

Any bare-bones-build would have to be...

   - constructed => here's probably where most feedback would be welcome
   - documented
   - maintained
   - tested
   - supported

...by whomever desires it.

That sounds to me that the goal of the "bare bones" edition is to start 
> again with a simpler UI.


Yes, the details being in all the degrees of "simple", all the way down to 
"render only".

As I've said before, there's much easier ways to achieve that goal.
>

Details to that would be what anyone wishing to go down that route would 
best start with, e.g. stripping out code comments, minifying js, etc.

~

I totally agree, wishes to have anything like that be part of the core 
distro are, frankly, unreasonable... unless perhaps there was some major 
benefit to that to the core project, which has yet to show up.

Questions as to "how far can I strip the core down", depend on what that 
"core" is that anyone wants left.

Best wishes,

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[tw] Re: How to delete unused Tags in TW5

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Metabele,

Did some simplifying and ...maybe rewording, e.g. "find" is really 
"remove", etc.
Diff and use as you see fit.

Best wishes,

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[tw] Re: [TW5] New KaTeX features to the math plugin

[arseniiv]

OK, I’ll try a version from pre-release, thanks everybody!

P. S.
> if that's not too informal
I’m afraid it’s too. :D But, if you want, you may contract my nickname to 
simply Arsenii (which is my name).

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[tw] Re: [TWC] trunk remote file for display

[julien23]

Hi Tobias

Thank you for quick and good idea.

I made it work with :
out = out.splice(5-1,9-5+1);

Final with parametrization :

<>

with [[UrlContentScriptStartEnd]] :


var p;
 if (document.all){
   // For IE, create an ActiveX Object instance
   p = new ActiveXObject("Microsoft.XMLHTTP");
 }
 else {
   // For mozilla, create an instance of XMLHttpRequest.
   p = new XMLHttpRequest();
 }
p.open("GET","$1",false);
p.send(null);
var out = p.responseText.split("\n");
out = out.splice($2-1,$3-$2+1);
wikify(out.join("\n"),place);


Thanks a lot

JBo




On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 11:13:28 AM UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Hi Julien,
>  
>
>> wikify(p.responseText,place);
>>
>
>> Sometime I would like to trunck the remote file to display for example 
>> only lines 5 to 9.
>
>
> =>
>
> var out = p.responseText.split("\n");
> out = out.splice(5, out.length-9);
> wikify(out.join("\n"),place);
>
> Best wishes,
>
> — tb
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Re: [tw] Re: Dropbox link

[Jeremy Ruston]

Just to be clear, the issue here is that when one creates a Dropbox link
for a file, the link only provides access to that one file, and not to any
other files in the same directory. That's why the images don't work.

The workaround is to share the wiki via your Dropbox "public" folder. It
used to be the case that only very old Dropbox accounts had access to this
feature, but it has recently been made available to all users:

https://www.dropbox.com/enable_public_folder

Best wishes

Jeremy.



On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:58 PM,  wrote:

> Wow thanks for all the help, I tried using the public link for the pics,
> and that worked, I will look at the other advise as well.
> Many thanks
> Pär
>
> On Monday, September 21, 2015 at 11:22:10 AM UTC+1, p.hak...@soton.ac.uk
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I have created my first tiddlyWiki mywiki.html and saved it in my dropbox
>> and shared it with a few within a work project.
>> However, the dropbox link I get to mywiki.html leads to some preview with
>> lot of html code, not to the actual wiki.
>> Has anyone come across this problem?
>>
>> Thankful for any suggestion.
>>
>> Pär
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Still struggling with default values in templates !

[Eric Shulman]

On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 3:41:17 AM UTC-7, FrD wrote:
>
> Back again with my templates !
> Here is a MTC : 
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9385804/TestTagsTemplate.html
> The idea is to have a template to display the tags of a tiddler.
> The display is an horizontal list or a vertical one according to a 
> variable : $(tagsclass)$ that is set outside the call to the template.
> This variable holds the name of a css class for the ul element.
>

This should do what you want:

\define tagsDisplay(class:"tags-display-horizontal")

<$list filter=" [all[current]tags[]]">
{{||$:/core/ui/TagTemplate}}


\end
<$macrocall $name="tagsDisplay" class=<>/> 

-e

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[tw] Re: How to delete unused Tags in TW5

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Metabele,

Did some simplifying and ...maybe rewording, e.g. "find" is really 
"remove", etc.
Diff and use as you see fit.

Best wishes,

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[tw] [TW5] Still struggling with default values in templates !

[FrD]

Hi,

Back again with my templates !
Here is a MTC : 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9385804/TestTagsTemplate.html

The idea is to have a template to display the tags of a tiddler.
The display is an horizontal list or a vertical one according to a variable 
: $(tagsclass)$ that is set outside the call to the template.
This variable holds the name of a css class for the ul element.

The tiddler "TagsDisplayTemplate_WithoutDefault" holds the template that 
works *without *a default value for $(tagsclass)$. The test is in tiddler 
"TestTagsDisplay_WithoutDefault". It works as expected.

My attempt at a template *with *a default value is in tiddler 
"TagsDisplayTemplate_WithDefault". The test is in tiddler 
"TestTagsDisplay_WithDefault". As you can see something's going wrong. I 
can't figure out what !

Any help is welcome !

Thanks

FrD

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Re: [tw] Re: do you think it's time for a "bare bones" edition?

[Jeremy Ruston]

HI Danielo

For me a bare bones edition should not include images or any widget that is
> not absolutely essential for TW. Currently the only way to do this
> currently is by clonning the project and modifying it, and of course you
> can not use the tiddlywiky you have installed globally.
>

What would be the benefit of having a bare bones edition? We still seem to
be coming back to a desire for the core plugin to be smaller. As I keep
saying, the amount of complexity that you are proposing to introduce
doesn't seem worth that benefit.

What can you not do today that you would be able to do if there was an
alternative, bare-bones version of the core plugin?

Best wishes

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Re: [tw] Re: Is it possible to covernt tiddlers in a HTML file to online version (on node.js )?

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Qiyong

>
> Meanwhile, we also found "tiddlywiki --load " command helps.
>

Great, I was going to point you at that command. You may also be interested
in the script ginsu.sh which contains the following:

node ./tiddlywiki.js \
./editions/empty \
--verbose \
--load $1 \
--output tmp \
--rendertiddlers [!is[system]] $:/core/templates/tid-tiddler ginsu
text/plain .tid \
--rendertiddler $:/core/templates/split-recipe ginsu/split.recipe
text/plain \
|| exit 1

It demonstrates how to use the rendertiddler(s) command to output the
individual tiddlers.

Best wishes

Jeremy.



>
> Thanks!
>
> On Tuesday, 22 September 2015 03:19:24 UTC+8, Eric Shulman wrote:
>>
>> On Monday, September 21, 2015 at 11:49:13 AM UTC-7, Mat wrote:
>>>
>>> Are you asking how to convert the single TW file into multiple separate
>>> tiddlers for a node.js TW version? (I don't know.)
>>> To just have a single file TW online, you don't need node.js. And, vice
>>> versa, you can have a node.js TW off-line without problem, it doesn't have
>>> to be online.
>>>
>>
>> My understanding is that his group was using a single-file TW... but now
>> they have set up node.js, and they want to get the tiddlers from the old
>> single-file TW added into their shiny new node.js setup.
>>
>> -e
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Still struggling with default values in templates !

[FrD]

Hi Eric,

Thanks ! it works and the code is more straightforward.

FrD

Le mardi 22 septembre 2015 13:39:36 UTC+2, Eric Shulman a écrit :
>
>
> This should do what you want:
>
> \define tagsDisplay(class:"tags-display-horizontal")
> 
> <$list filter=" [all[current]tags[]]">
> {{||$:/core/ui/TagTemplate}}
> 
> 
> \end
> <$macrocall $name="tagsDisplay" class=<>/> 
>
> -e
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Re: [tw] Re: do you think it's time for a "bare bones" edition?

[Danielo Rodríguez]

For me a bare bones edition should not include images or any widget that is not 
absolutely essential for TW. Currently the only way to do this currently is by 
clonning the project and modifying it, and of course you can not use the 
tiddlywiky you have installed globally. 

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[tw] Re: How to delete unused Tags in TW5

[Matabele]

Hi Tobias

Haven't tested as yet, but a quick look at the code leads me to believe 
that the tags would be removed and added unconditionally. My widget is 
supposed to conditionally add a tag only iff the first tag is found (in the 
case that both find= and add= are specified) and unconditionally add or 
remove the tags if only one of the attributes is specified.

regards

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> Hi Metabele,
>
> Did some simplifying and ...maybe rewording, e.g. "find" is really 
> "remove", etc.
> Diff and use as you see fit.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> — tb
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Re: [tw] Internal Javascript Error ONLY ON Chrome Version 45.0.2454.93 m

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Pete

Can you open the browser developer console and take a screenshot of any
error messages that you see there?

The error message you're seeing suggests strongly that the content of the
HTML file has been modified/corrupted. This can happen if you're using a
network that interferes with HTTP traffic (as some ISPs have been found to
do).

Best wishes

Jeremy.



On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Pete Johnson 
wrote:

> When loading Tiddlywiki 5.1.9 through an http call (Tiddlywiki hosted on a
> web server at another IP address, fetching the file through the TCP/IP
> stack on Windows 10), the dreaded Internal Javascript Error happens.
>
> Well, this is embarrassing. It is recommended that you restart TiddlyWiki
> by refreshing your browser.
> Uncaught SyntaxError: missing ) after argument list
>
>
> after argument list
> I can't replicate the error in these:
>
>
>- Microsoft Edge 20.10240.16384
>- Mozilla Foundation Firefox 40.0.3
>
> *The error was not present in earlier versions of Chrome for the same
> version of Tiddlywiki and even earlier versions of Tiddlywiki 5.*
>
> Here is the screengrab from Chrome 45.0.2454.93 m
>
>
>
>
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[tw] Re: How to delete unused Tags in TW5

[Matabele]

Hi

I have adopted your code improvements, but have corrected the logic -- this 
version appears to work as intended.

regards

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>
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>
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Re: [tw] Re: Dropbox link

[Greg Davis]

Well, sort of. To quote from the link: "If you would still like to enable 
your Public folder, you must be a Dropbox Pro or Dropbox for Business user. 
*Currently 
only Pro and Business users may enable Public folders from this page*."

On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 6:17:40 AM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Just to be clear, the issue here is that when one creates a Dropbox link 
> for a file, the link only provides access to that one file, and not to any 
> other files in the same directory. That's why the images don't work.
>
> The workaround is to share the wiki via your Dropbox "public" folder. It 
> used to be the case that only very old Dropbox accounts had access to this 
> feature, but it has recently been made available to all users:
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/enable_public_folder
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:58 PM,  
> wrote:
>
>> Wow thanks for all the help, I tried using the public link for the pics, 
>> and that worked, I will look at the other advise as well.
>> Many thanks
>> Pär
>>
>> On Monday, September 21, 2015 at 11:22:10 AM UTC+1, p.hak...@soton.ac.uk 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I have created my first tiddlyWiki mywiki.html and saved it in my 
>>> dropbox and shared it with a few within a work project.
>>> However, the dropbox link I get to mywiki.html leads to some preview 
>>> with lot of html code, not to the actual wiki.
>>> Has anyone come across this problem?
>>>
>>> Thankful for any suggestion.
>>>
>>> Pär
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[tw] Re: How to delete unused Tags in TW5

[Matabele]

Hi Tobias

Nope -- the logic still adds a tag unconditionally (no improvement on your 
code.) I had this same problem with the logic with my $mangletags widget -- 
any ideas?

Without this functionality, the widget must be placed within a filter which 
chooses only those tiddlers containing the tag to remove -- I needed to use 
the widget within another filter -- as in: search all tiddlers with a value 
of 'one' in field1 and, iff the tiddler has the tag 'old', remove it and 
replace it with tag 'new' (else do nothing.)

With the widget as is, all of the tiddlers with a value of 'one' in field1 
will have tag 'new' added regardless of whether they were tagged 'old'.

This can be remedied by correcting the filter i.e. list all tiddlers with 
both the value 'one' in field1 and the tag 'old' -- but I believe the added 
functionality is justified in the interests of simpler coding. 

regards

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> Hi Metabele,
>
> Did some simplifying and ...maybe rewording, e.g. "find" is really 
> "remove", etc.
> Diff and use as you see fit.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> — tb
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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyMap ideas / suggestions

[K500 L501]

Minor suggestion:

Tiddlymap V 0.9 shows the TaskManagementExample 2.0, referring to the
TaskManagementExample in TiddlyWiki.com. While TiddlyWiki.com uses the tags
"task" and "done", TiddlyMap uses the capitalised "Task" and "Done". Is
that on purpose in order to create two different TaskManagements in one TW?

I would propose that TiddlyMap uses the same notation as TiddlyWiki.com,
because otherwise newbies like me, who live from watching and copying, get
easily confused.

Kind Regards

KiloLama
On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 11:59 PM, Felix Küppers 
wrote:

>
> > But, if you wanted an entirely different graph / view,
> > e.g. a subsystem view, then that would not be it.
>
> Just wanted to say, I recently did some experiments with the live view
> where a focussed tiddler opens an existing map that was bound to that
> tiddler in advance (instead of showing the neighbourhood). But I need to
> do more testing with that.
>
> -Felix
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Contributors Edition

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I didn't find the Github process too arduous. What was problematic was 
waiting many weeks before simple, innocent documentation changes showed up 
or even were pulled. Apparently, documentation is treated as code (maybe 
because it's mixed in with the code). It doesn't seem like the proposed 
system will fix that..  

Everyone in the TW github documentation system has to go through a 
signing/initiation process. They are essentially known quantities. So there 
shouldn't be serious trust issues. 

It's odd that you can post to the world's largest online encyclopedia and 
see it up in 20 minutes, but you can't add a simple TW document page 
without waiting for weeks.

On a technical note, with the new process won't tiddlyspot become cluttered 
with dozens or hundreds of "dead" TW's after a year or two?

Mark
 

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