[tw] Re: TW5: Are the parser's pragma rules documented somewhere? Anywhere?

[Douglas Counts]

As a follow-up, after looking at the source code 

 for 
the parser's pragma rules, I found the comment:

\rules except ruleone ruletwo rulethree
\rules only ruleone ruletwo rulethree

so, are those the only two pragma rules or are there more?

-Doug


On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 9:22:24 PM UTC-5, Douglas Counts wrote:
>
> After spending several hours reading the sound docs 
>  and even playing around with 
> Tobias' enable-js 
>  plug-in. 
>
> I noticed that I couldn't attach events because the TW parser is spitting 
> var target = document.getElementById("audio-div");
>
> just after the get. So within the debugger, it looks like so:
>
> var audio = document.get
> ElementById("target");
>
> Obviously, that isn't going to work.  So adding the pragma
>
> \rules except wikilink
>
> fixed the problem.  Which brings me to the question, where are these 
> pragma rules documented?
>
> I even searched for the term except at tiddlywiki.com/dev/ and came up 
> empty. Is there a resource out there on these?
>
> A how to article out there? Something? Anything?
>
> Thank you guys or gals,
>
> -Doug
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[tw] TW5: Are the parser's pragma rules documented somewhere? Anywhere?

[Douglas Counts]

After spending several hours reading the sound docs 
 and even playing around with 
Tobias' enable-js  plug-in. 

I noticed that I couldn't attach events because the TW parser is spitting 
var target = document.getElementById("audio-div");

just after the get. So within the debugger, it looks like so:

var audio = document.get
ElementById("target");

Obviously, that isn't going to work.  So adding the pragma

\rules except wikilink

fixed the problem.  Which brings me to the question, where are these pragma 
rules documented?

I even searched for the term except at tiddlywiki.com/dev/ and came up 
empty. Is there a resource out there on these?

A how to article out there? Something? Anything?

Thank you guys or gals,

-Doug





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[tw] Re: TiddlyFox seemed to stop working

[Sergio Rolim]

THANKS!

Em quarta-feira, 12 de abril de 2017 11:43:26 UTC-3, Ed escreveu:
>
> Hej All,
>
> An hour or so ago I could not save my TW5's anymore.
> When loading a TW5-file the familiar warning did not show up.
> I see that TiddlyWiki for FireFox is updated just today.
> I'm using FireFox 52.0.2 (32 bits)
> When saving I am offered to download the file after that
> I need to reload to continue working.
> What's up, Jeremy?
> Thanks in advance for comments.
> Tschüß! Ed
>

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[tw] Re: TiddlyFox seemed to stop working

[Andrew Ashling]

Hi All,

I have two questions:

1. TiddlyFox updated automatically on FireFox because I had left the update 
option at "Default," and I can see the icon. Do I understand correctly that 
I also need to enable this for every *TWClassic* file? 

2. In actual practice I use the combo TWC+PaleMoon most of the time. I've 
temporary frozen updates and I'm still using 1.0Alpha18.1, last updated 
05/02/2016, on PaleMoon. Is there any reason why I should upgrade TiddlyFox 
on PaleMoon?


On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 4:43:26 PM UTC+2, Ed wrote:
>
> Hej All,
>
> An hour or so ago I could not save my TW5's anymore.
> When loading a TW5-file the familiar warning did not show up.
> I see that TiddlyWiki for FireFox is updated just today.
> I'm using FireFox 52.0.2 (32 bits)
> When saving I am offered to download the file after that
> I need to reload to continue working.
> What's up, Jeremy?
> Thanks in advance for comments.
> Tschüß! Ed
>

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins updated: ToDoNow and Listreveal

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Josiah

The feature is undocumented yet, because it is experimental. Two things are
to consider:
– it needs an additional macro (my extract) so I might make it an option. I
don’t want to bloat the core
– I am misusing the header tag and will maybe switch to something else like


Thank you for testing the archive!

Cheers, Thomas



@TiddlyTweeter  schrieb am Di. 11. Apr. 2017 um
19:43:

> 1 - THE FEATURE might be worth documenting for users? Once I understood
> what is going on with  syntax  I realised it could be *very
> useful*!
>
> 2 - ARCHIVE tagging. It both works well & looks good. I like how you kept
> the elegance of the design. It really adds to its utility. :-).
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
> On Tuesday, 11 April 2017 19:27:01 UTC+2, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Hi Josiah
>
> 1) Unfortunately the field for days is still misbehaving, yes. I guess I
> will have to add a limit for productive people like me to omit system
> overload by reports ;–)
>
> 2) If it is not a bug, it’s a feature: a PART of a tiddler included in
>  syntax  is shown on the report. I need some details for
> my personal reporting.
>
> Did you try the new archive button?
>
> Cheers, Thomas
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] How to get the base html code and POST it to PHP server?

[sini-Kit]

Yes! It was problem with my PHP I put 
$mail=get_magic_quotes_gpc()?stripslashes($mail):$mail; 

and \" disappear  now I can publish my wiki by php) )

It is not possible to use store.php, because variant I have found  don't 
work. So I try to make the absolutely  same feature again. 

четверг, 13 апреля 2017 г., 20:31:25 UTC+3 пользователь Jeremy Ruston 
написал:

> Hi sini-Kit
>
> Thank you Jeremy, but 
> $tw.wiki.renderTiddler("text/plain","$:/core/save/all") put lots of \" is 
> it possible to get this code without them? 
>
>
> That looks like JavaScript string escaping; is that something that the 
> console is adding for the display? I don't see that encoding in my tests.
>
> I try to use http://tiddlywiki.com/#Saving%20on%20a%20PHP%20Server but it 
> don't work with store.php on my server.
>
>
> Well, your original request is to do something that is already done by the 
> core, so you might want to start with the existing code.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
>
>
> четверг, 13 апреля 2017 г., 11:48:09 UTC+3 пользователь Jeremy Ruston 
> написал:
>
>> Hi sini-Kit
>>
>> You can obtain the HTML text that would be used for saving with this 
>> snippet:
>>
>> $tw.wiki.renderTiddler("text/plain","$:/core/save/all")
>>
>> In terms of POSTing the wiki to a server you may want to try re-using 
>> some of the code in $:/core/modules/savers/upload.js 
>> or $:/core/modules/savers/put.js
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>>
>> On 13 Apr 2017, at 08:06, Tristan Kohl  wrote:
>>
>> I do not know if I get you right, but when the file is loadad you can 
>> simply run:
>>
>> var html = $tw.wiki.getTiddler("$:/core/templates/tiddlywiki5.html")
>>
>> That will return a Tiddler object with the tiddlers content stored in the 
>> property "fields" -> "text"
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Tristan
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] How to get the base html code and POST it to PHP server?

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi sini-Kit

> Thank you Jeremy, but $tw.wiki.renderTiddler("text/plain","$:/core/save/all") 
> put lots of \" is it possible to get this code without them?

That looks like JavaScript string escaping; is that something that the console 
is adding for the display? I don't see that encoding in my tests.

> I try to use http://tiddlywiki.com/#Saving%20on%20a%20PHP%20Server but it 
> don't work with store.php on my server.

Well, your original request is to do something that is already done by the 
core, so you might want to start with the existing code.

Best wishes

Jeremy

> 
> 
> 
> 
> четверг, 13 апреля 2017 г., 11:48:09 UTC+3 пользователь Jeremy Ruston написал:
>> Hi sini-Kit
>> 
>> You can obtain the HTML text that would be used for saving with this snippet:
>> 
>> $tw.wiki.renderTiddler("text/plain","$:/core/save/all")
>> 
>> In terms of POSTing the wiki to a server you may want to try re-using some 
>> of the code in $:/core/modules/savers/upload.js or 
>> $:/core/modules/savers/put.js
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> Jeremy
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 13 Apr 2017, at 08:06, Tristan Kohl  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I do not know if I get you right, but when the file is loadad you can 
>>> simply run:
>>> 
>>> var html = $tw.wiki.getTiddler("$:/core/templates/tiddlywiki5.html")
>>> 
>>> That will return a Tiddler object with the tiddlers content stored in the 
>>> property "fields" -> "text"
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Tristan
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] How to get the base html code and POST it to PHP server?

[sini-Kit]

Thank you Jeremy, but 
$tw.wiki.renderTiddler("text/plain","$:/core/save/all") put lots of \" is 
it possible to get this code without them? 










http://tiddlywiki.com/#Saving%20on%20a%20PHP%20Server but it 
don't work with store.php on my server.




четверг, 13 апреля 2017 г., 11:48:09 UTC+3 пользователь Jeremy Ruston 
написал:

> Hi sini-Kit
>
> You can obtain the HTML text that would be used for saving with this 
> snippet:
>
> $tw.wiki.renderTiddler("text/plain","$:/core/save/all")
>
> In terms of POSTing the wiki to a server you may want to try re-using some 
> of the code in $:/core/modules/savers/upload.js 
> or $:/core/modules/savers/put.js
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
> On 13 Apr 2017, at 08:06, Tristan Kohl > 
> wrote:
>
> I do not know if I get you right, but when the file is loadad you can 
> simply run:
>
> var html = $tw.wiki.getTiddler("$:/core/templates/tiddlywiki5.html")
>
> That will return a Tiddler object with the tiddlers content stored in the 
> property "fields" -> "text"
>
> Cheers,
> Tristan
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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyFox seemed to stop working

[Webcorerad]

Ohhh :( I’ve just lost a day of work because of this as well. It didn’t
save anything, the computer freeze and I’ve had to restart it. When I
opened TiddlyWiki again all work was gone. I didn’t have clicked on the
TiddlyFox icon and the green button to enable the save again.
The icon change is so subtle I didn’t noted it…

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Jeremy Ruston 
wrote:

> Apologies, I hadn’t appreciated the impact of the change; I have to rely
> on feedback from beta testers to smooth out the rough edges of things. (The
> new version of TiddlyFox has been available as a beta for about 3 months).
>
> This happened to me as well and I don't see anyway for it to happen unless
> Firefox automatically updated the add-ins. I count automatic updates that
> change how the add-in works without notification as being a big mistake.
>
>
> The automatic update was a surprise to me, too. I submitted the add-on for
> approval on 21st February and had almost given up hope that it would be
> approved before the release of a version of Firefox that broke TiddlyFox.
>
> I seem to be constantly telling the thing that I want to enable saving for
> the wiki even though I haven't knowingly updated anything. Does clearing
> the cache, cookies, etc, also reset whether TiddlyFox has saving enabled?
> If so, is there some way to change that behaviour?
>
>
> TiddlyFox settings are stored using the Firefox extension standard storage
> API for preference storage. I guess that it probably does get cleared if
> you nuke things sufficiently powerfully; hard to see a way to avoid that
> other than to store preferences somewhere non-standard, which seems like
> extra work, and makes the Mozilla review process more complex.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
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[tw] Re: Problem with text in two columns

[Juan Palomo]

Perfect!!!

By modifying the code you sent me, I have managed to put the original song 
directly and translated directly into a tiddler.

Greetings (Muchas, muchas gracias)


El jueves, 13 de abril de 2017, 16:08:22 (UTC+2), fran@gmail.com 
escribió:
>
> A ver ésto:
>
> Estilo (un tiddler etiquetado con $:/tags/Stylesheet):
>
> .contenedor {
> display:table;
> }
> .texto, .traduc {
> display:table-cell;
> text-align:justify;
> margin:2em;
> padding:2em;
> }
> .texto {
> font-style:italic;
> }
> .traduc {
> border-left:solid 0.5em #00c;
> }
>
> En el tiddler:
> 
>   
> <$transclude tiddler="Texto-1" mode="block"/>
>   
>
>   
> <$transclude tiddler="Texto-2" mode="block"/>
>   
> 
>
> Espero que te sirva.
>
>
>
> El jueves, 13 de abril de 2017, 11:21:18 (UTC+2), Juan Palomo escribió:
>>
>> Hello everyone!!!
>>
>> I am trying to make a tiddler with two columns of text to put lyrics and 
>> their translation to the side. I have tried it in several ways and I can 
>> not.
>>
>> -The first way I've tried is with the following code: 
>>
>> *Texto de la columna (lado izquierdo)Texto de la columna 
>> (lado derecho)*
>>
>> The problem I have with this form is that the text overflows the tiddler 
>> and looks bad. What is there to add so that the text does not overflow 
>> the tiddler?
>>
>> -The second way I tried with this code:
>>
>>  > = "50" border = "0">
>>  
>>  Text_A
>> 
>>  Text_B
>> 
>>
>> In this second case, what I do not like is to see the edges of the cells. 
>> How 
>> can they be deleted or hidden?
>>
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
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[tw] Re: Problem with text in two columns

[Juan Palomo]

Thank you very much!!!

The truth is that it looks very nice. I had tried several alternatives but 
none of them were the same as yours. The last one was a simple transclusion 
on a two-column table, simple and effective, but looked at the edges of the 
table and I did not like the result. I am a newbie to this in HTML and CSS, 
the knowledge I have is almost null.

On the other hand, I wish I could avoid having to create two tiddlers, one 
for the original song and one for the translation and have it all in one.
But if the way I want is not possible, I like your proposal, especially the 
vertical bar that you have put.

Best regards.

P.S. And many thanks for the other proposal. ;-)

El jueves, 13 de abril de 2017, 16:08:22 (UTC+2), Franja escribió:
>
> A ver ésto:
>
> Estilo (un tiddler etiquetado con $:/tags/Stylesheet):
>
> .contenedor {
> display:table;
> }
> .texto, .traduc {
> display:table-cell;
> text-align:justify;
> margin:2em;
> padding:2em;
> }
> .texto {
> font-style:italic;
> }
> .traduc {
> border-left:solid 0.5em #00c;
> }
>
> En el tiddler:
> 
>   
> <$transclude tiddler="Texto-1" mode="block"/>
>   
>
>   
> <$transclude tiddler="Texto-2" mode="block"/>
>   
> 
>
> Espero que te sirva.
>
>
>
> El jueves, 13 de abril de 2017, 11:21:18 (UTC+2), Juan Palomo escribió:
>>
>> Hello everyone!!!
>>
>> I am trying to make a tiddler with two columns of text to put lyrics and 
>> their translation to the side. I have tried it in several ways and I can 
>> not.
>>
>> -The first way I've tried is with the following code: 
>>
>> *Texto de la columna (lado izquierdo)Texto de la columna 
>> (lado derecho)*
>>
>> The problem I have with this form is that the text overflows the tiddler 
>> and looks bad. What is there to add so that the text does not overflow 
>> the tiddler?
>>
>> -The second way I tried with this code:
>>
>>  > = "50" border = "0">
>>  
>>  Text_A
>> 
>>  Text_B
>> 
>>
>> In this second case, what I do not like is to see the edges of the cells. 
>> How 
>> can they be deleted or hidden?
>>
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>

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[tw] Re: Problem with text in two columns

[fran . reivaj]

A ver ésto:

Estilo (un tiddler etiquetado con $:/tags/Stylesheet):

.contenedor {
display:table;
}
.texto, .traduc {
display:table-cell;
text-align:justify;
margin:2em;
padding:2em;
}
.texto {
font-style:italic;
}
.traduc {
border-left:solid 0.5em #00c;
}

En el tiddler:

  
<$transclude tiddler="Texto-1" mode="block"/>
  

  
<$transclude tiddler="Texto-2" mode="block"/>
  


Espero que te sirva.



El jueves, 13 de abril de 2017, 11:21:18 (UTC+2), Juan Palomo escribió:
>
> Hello everyone!!!
>
> I am trying to make a tiddler with two columns of text to put lyrics and 
> their translation to the side. I have tried it in several ways and I can 
> not.
>
> -The first way I've tried is with the following code: 
>
> *Texto de la columna (lado izquierdo)Texto de la columna 
> (lado derecho)*
>
> The problem I have with this form is that the text overflows the tiddler 
> and looks bad. What is there to add so that the text does not overflow 
> the tiddler?
>
> -The second way I tried with this code:
>
>   = "50" border = "0">
>  
>  Text_A
> 
>  Text_B
> 
>
> In this second case, what I do not like is to see the edges of the cells. How 
> can they be deleted or hidden?
>
>
> Thank you.
>

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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyFox seemed to stop working

[Jeremy Ruston]

Apologies, I hadn’t appreciated the impact of the change; I have to rely on 
feedback from beta testers to smooth out the rough edges of things. (The new 
version of TiddlyFox has been available as a beta for about 3 months).

> This happened to me as well and I don't see anyway for it to happen unless 
> Firefox automatically updated the add-ins. I count automatic updates that 
> change how the add-in works without notification as being a big mistake. 

The automatic update was a surprise to me, too. I submitted the add-on for 
approval on 21st February and had almost given up hope that it would be 
approved before the release of a version of Firefox that broke TiddlyFox.

> I seem to be constantly telling the thing that I want to enable saving for 
> the wiki even though I haven't knowingly updated anything. Does clearing the 
> cache, cookies, etc, also reset whether TiddlyFox has saving enabled? If so, 
> is there some way to change that behaviour?

TiddlyFox settings are stored using the Firefox extension standard storage API 
for preference storage. I guess that it probably does get cleared if you nuke 
things sufficiently powerfully; hard to see a way to avoid that other than to 
store preferences somewhere non-standard, which seems like extra work, and 
makes the Mozilla review process more complex.

Best wishes

Jeremy.


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[tw] Re: TiddlyFox seemed to stop working

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

This happened to me as well and I don't see anyway for it to happen unless 
Firefox automatically updated the add-ins. I count automatic updates that 
change how the add-in works without notification as being a big mistake. 

I seem to be constantly telling the thing that I want to enable saving for 
the wiki even though I haven't knowingly updated anything. Does clearing 
the cache, cookies, etc, also reset whether TiddlyFox has saving enabled? 
If so, is there some way to change that behaviour?

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Re: [tw] Invitation to TiddlyPip: an Apple App Store experiment

[Jan]

Hi Jeremy, Hi all...
I just realized that I got fascinated about a very old thread...
Has something like an easy way to publish a TW in an app with the 
features specified in Jeremy's Mail come up in the meantime...
Also a way to publish TW with the normal features and interface would be 
very welcome...

This really would solve some open questions for me at the moment.

Yours Jan


Am 13.04.2017 um 01:57 schrieb Jan:

Hi Jeremy,
Great, I got a project where I have been waiting for something like this.
I think the layout could be quite close to the normal TW, some 
elements would have to be a little more mobile-friendly...for example 
because I like formats you can carry in the pocket, enabling true 
fullscreen in TWEdit would be a help.
I made a Menu that could be useful for navigating multilevel menus  on 
smartphones on slidesnstories.tiddlyspot.com and also the 
presenterplugin i made there could provide a learing Cards / cue card 
mechanism.


Some ideas regarding the buisiness modell.
...To use it in courses, it would be nice to have the perspective of 
an Android-Branch
...for my courses it would be nice if there was the possiblity to 
print out a qr-code to download for free.
...regarding the buisiness-model this could be useful a technique to 
make possible certain number of downloads after the institution paid a 
license.


It would be usesfull to have a qr-code scanner in the app to access 
certain topics directly.


Best wishes Jan







Am 30.01.2015 um 12:58 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:
Do you have an idea for TiddlyWiki content that you think people 
might pay for?


Perhaps a technical manual? Or a guide for your city? Training 
materials for your company's field engineer force? Or maybe a 
manualisation of mental health intervention techniques?


Would you be interested in working together to create your multimedia 
TiddlyWiki content and wrap it up as an app that can be distributed 
and sold on the iPhone/iPad app store?


Here's the background for this invitation: I've recently finished my 
work with CTRLio. I'm very grateful to them for the support they've 
shown to my work on TiddlyWiki over the last 18 months. But now I 
need to find new sources of income to replace my salary. There's a 
few weeks in which I can consider some radical options, and this is 
one of them.


I want to explore the idea of building a commercial TiddlyWiki 
ecosystem on top of the Apple platform of iOS, the Mac and iCloud. 
I'm not making any moral or philosophical judgement about Apple's 
place in the world. I'm considering this plan just because the App 
Store is one of the places that someone like me may be able to make 
money.


This first step is simple: we create a framework for building iOS 
apps that provide a terrific, read-only user experience for 
interacting with TiddlyWiki documents. I'd want to support free or 
paid apps, with the possibility of using in-app purchases for premium 
content. It would be a way to deliver a highly custom, interactive 
user experience around multimedia content. We would be able to 
deliver free updates to the app and content via the app store update 
process.


Such a simple application would be the quickest way to get into the 
app store - I believe in just a few weeks. The aim would be for the 
app to be invisible without much of a discernible user interface, 
just providing the mechanisms for the content to take centre stage. 
It certainly shouldn't resemble the familiar default TiddlyWiki 
editing interface.


I'm open to suggestions about how to structure this from a business 
perspective. I'd need some upfront payment to fund the development, 
but hopfully we'd find a big enough handful of people that individual 
shares of the startup costs would be relatively small.


If enough people can provide the necessary commercial backing we can 
use TiddlyPip to publish Eric's "Inside TiddlyWiki: The Missing Manual".


Beyond simple read-only publishing, there would be a number of 
incremental improvements we could make once we see regular revenue:


# Support read/write functionality like annotations, with iCloud 
syncing between iOS devices.


# Support publishing custom, TiddlyWiki-based applications, such as 
tw5.scholars. It wouldn't appear to be a TiddlyWiki file: it would 
behave like a custom app for scholarly notetaking (including 
multi-device sync)


# Support quizzes and questionnaires, with content unlocked by 
successfully completing exercises


# Support reporting of progress to the TinCan API

# Support one-on-one student/educator interactions through the app. 
Students might buy an academic textbook along with tokens to ask the 
author 5 questions via messaging within the app.


# Create a full end-user application that enables the user to create 
and work with TiddlyWiki documents on iOS devices. This is really the 
ultimate goal from a development perspective. But it's a lot of work 
to create such an app with enough polish to stand out in the app 
store

Re: [tw] Invitation to TiddlyPip: an Apple App Store experiment

[Jan]

Hi Jeremy, Hi all...
I just realized that i got fascinated about a very old thread...
Has something like an easy way to publish a TW in an app come up in the 
meantime...

I really would solve some problems for me.

Yours Jan


Am 13.04.2017 um 01:57 schrieb Jan:

Hi Jeremy,
Great, I got a project where I have been waiting for something like this.
I think the layout could be quite close to the normal TW, some 
elements would have to be a little more mobile-friendly...for example 
because I like formats you can carry in the pocket, enabling true 
fullscreen in TWEdit would be a help.
I made a Menu that could be useful for navigating multilevel menus  on 
smartphones on slidesnstories.tiddlyspot.com and also the 
presenterplugin i made there could provide a learing Cards / cue card 
mechanism.


Some ideas regarding the buisiness modell.
...To use it in courses, it would be nice to have the perspective of 
an Android-Branch
...for my courses it would be nice if there was the possiblity to 
print out a qr-code to download for free.
...regarding the buisiness-model this could be useful a technique to 
make possible certain number of downloads after the institution paid a 
license.


It would be usesfull to have a qr-code scanner in the app to access 
certain topics directly.


Best wishes Jan







Am 30.01.2015 um 12:58 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:
Do you have an idea for TiddlyWiki content that you think people 
might pay for?


Perhaps a technical manual? Or a guide for your city? Training 
materials for your company's field engineer force? Or maybe a 
manualisation of mental health intervention techniques?


Would you be interested in working together to create your multimedia 
TiddlyWiki content and wrap it up as an app that can be distributed 
and sold on the iPhone/iPad app store?


Here's the background for this invitation: I've recently finished my 
work with CTRLio. I'm very grateful to them for the support they've 
shown to my work on TiddlyWiki over the last 18 months. But now I 
need to find new sources of income to replace my salary. There's a 
few weeks in which I can consider some radical options, and this is 
one of them.


I want to explore the idea of building a commercial TiddlyWiki 
ecosystem on top of the Apple platform of iOS, the Mac and iCloud. 
I'm not making any moral or philosophical judgement about Apple's 
place in the world. I'm considering this plan just because the App 
Store is one of the places that someone like me may be able to make 
money.


This first step is simple: we create a framework for building iOS 
apps that provide a terrific, read-only user experience for 
interacting with TiddlyWiki documents. I'd want to support free or 
paid apps, with the possibility of using in-app purchases for premium 
content. It would be a way to deliver a highly custom, interactive 
user experience around multimedia content. We would be able to 
deliver free updates to the app and content via the app store update 
process.


Such a simple application would be the quickest way to get into the 
app store - I believe in just a few weeks. The aim would be for the 
app to be invisible without much of a discernible user interface, 
just providing the mechanisms for the content to take centre stage. 
It certainly shouldn't resemble the familiar default TiddlyWiki 
editing interface.


I'm open to suggestions about how to structure this from a business 
perspective. I'd need some upfront payment to fund the development, 
but hopfully we'd find a big enough handful of people that individual 
shares of the startup costs would be relatively small.


If enough people can provide the necessary commercial backing we can 
use TiddlyPip to publish Eric's "Inside TiddlyWiki: The Missing Manual".


Beyond simple read-only publishing, there would be a number of 
incremental improvements we could make once we see regular revenue:


# Support read/write functionality like annotations, with iCloud 
syncing between iOS devices.


# Support publishing custom, TiddlyWiki-based applications, such as 
tw5.scholars. It wouldn't appear to be a TiddlyWiki file: it would 
behave like a custom app for scholarly notetaking (including 
multi-device sync)


# Support quizzes and questionnaires, with content unlocked by 
successfully completing exercises


# Support reporting of progress to the TinCan API

# Support one-on-one student/educator interactions through the app. 
Students might buy an academic textbook along with tokens to ask the 
author 5 questions via messaging within the app.


# Create a full end-user application that enables the user to create 
and work with TiddlyWiki documents on iOS devices. This is really the 
ultimate goal from a development perspective. But it's a lot of work 
to create such an app with enough polish to stand out in the app 
store, and I'm not convinced there are enough people prepared to pay 
for apps like TiddlyWiki. But if we can bootstrap things via the 
content publishing route th

[tw] Problem with text in two columns

[Juan Palomo]

Hello everyone!!!

I am trying to make a tiddler with two columns of text to put lyrics and 
their translation to the side. I have tried it in several ways and I can 
not.

-The first way I've tried is with the following code: 

*  Text of the column (right side) *

The problem I have with this form is that the text overflows the tiddler 
and looks bad. What is there to add so that the text does not overflow the 
tiddler?

-The second way I tried with this code: 
 
 
 Text_A

 Text_B


In this second case, what I do not like is to see the edges of the cells. How 
can they be deleted or hidden?

Thank you.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] How to get the base html code and POST it to PHP server?

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi sini-Kit

You can obtain the HTML text that would be used for saving with this snippet:

$tw.wiki.renderTiddler("text/plain","$:/core/save/all")

In terms of POSTing the wiki to a server you may want to try re-using some of 
the code in $:/core/modules/savers/upload.js or $:/core/modules/savers/put.js

Best wishes

Jeremy



> On 13 Apr 2017, at 08:06, Tristan Kohl  wrote:
> 
> I do not know if I get you right, but when the file is loadad you can simply 
> run:
> 
> var html = $tw.wiki.getTiddler("$:/core/templates/tiddlywiki5.html")
> 
> That will return a Tiddler object with the tiddlers content stored in the 
> property "fields" -> "text"
> 
> Cheers,
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[tw] Re: (Remake of previous) I need to center code, and turn off the formatting.

[PMario]

On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 2:01:32 PM UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> I don't think you can do that as the author of the thread.
>

I thought everyone can mark a thread as completed. ... but it may be bound 
to some user settings. 
 

> PMario has marked it so.
>

.. I did. 

-m

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[tw] Re: TiddlyFox seemed to stop working

[Ed]

Hi Richard,

Thank you for posting the picture of the TiddlyFox toolbar icon. No for the 
love of Pete 
I do not see it anywhere in the toolbar.
Might there be any other add-on interfering? I have uBlock Origin 
installed, but that is
switched of when I use a TW5 file from one of my hard-drives.
Like I said I'm using FireFox 52.0.2 (32 bits)

When I save the download dialog is triggered and I must save otherwise the 
new tiddler I made is lost
when I continue to use the original TW file I was working on. I only can 
continue working If I open that
 new version in FireFox. Is really a hassle. Hope that someone can help as 
it impedes my work greatly.

Salut! Ed.





Op donderdag 13 april 2017 02:53:24 UTC+2 schreef RichardWilliamSmith:
>
> This just happened to me too - I think firefox automatically updated 
> itself (I now have version 52.0.2). Unclear whether "tiddlyfox" also 
> updated itself - it now seems to be called "tiddlywiki for firefox". As Zyb 
> says, the download dialogue was triggered but the wiki appeared to 
> otherwise save as normal.
>
> The blue/green ball has motovun jack stood on it and looks like this
>
>
> 
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to get the base html code and POST it to PHP server?

[Tristan Kohl]

I do not know if I get you right, but when the file is loadad you can 
simply run:

var html = $tw.wiki.getTiddler("$:/core/templates/tiddlywiki5.html")

That will return a Tiddler object with the tiddlers content stored in the 
property "fields" -> "text"

Cheers,
Tristan

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