Re: [tw] [TW5] Node.js vs. single HTML

2017-05-25 Thread Mike Smith
Is there any way of knowing if someone else is editing the same tiddler?

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[tw] Re: Query: Is it possible to copy RENDERED HTML of a Tiddler to a new Tiddler?

2017-05-25 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
My code is similar to Richard's except that it assumes you want to create a 
tiddler containing the output of many tiddlers.  I used it with 
TiddlyWiki.com and filtered on tag=HelloThere. The results break at some 
point in terms of formatting but hopefully the report you create would be 
based on simpler tiddlers.  The results from a static export will be 
cleaner at least with some data.

\define report() 
Report: {{$:/temp/reporttitle}}

<$list filter="[tag[HelloThere]]">

! <$view field="title"/>

<$view field="text"/>
 
\end

<$edit-text tiddler="$:/temp/reporttitle" tag="input" size="50" default="
Your Title Here"/>

<$wikify name="snapshot" text="<>" output="html">
<$button>
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" 
title={{$:/temp/reporttitle}}  tags="Snapshot" text=<>/>
Make Snapshot



Your report will look something like the information below:




<>

On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 10:32:01 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>
>
> *Q: Is it possible to copy RENDERED HTML of a Tiddler to a new Tiddler?*I've 
> asked about this before but I think my question was not so clear. I'm 
> trying again, here is a Use Case ...
>
>- Fred has a large allotment on which he grows leeks for vegetable 
>competitions;
>
>
>- Fred uses TiddlyWiki to log, daily, the various nutrients he feeds 
>his leeks; he also makes notes on weather conditions; as well as leek 
> girth;
>
>
>- Monthly, Fred uses a list filter to produce a report on the state of 
>his leeks.
>
>
>- One morning Fred went into shock as he realised he had NO copy of 
>his previous reports. Since the Leek Exhibition Certification Board 
>requires ARCHIVES of previous reports in order to exhibit he got into a 
>depressed state.
>
> This jovial example is not entirely mad. "Fred's" life would a lot easier 
> IF he had a simple way to capture the RENDERED HTML of his dynamically 
> created reports to a New Tiddler on the day he made one. Then he could have 
> his needed archive of results ready and to hand.
>
>
> ---
>
>
> Technically what I can see is the "Export" to HTML does produce rendered 
> pages. But for this purpose only the contents of the  section would 
> be needed for a Tiddler since everything else needed for layout is already 
> there.
>
>
> *Has anyone ever dealt with this issue, i.e. capture Rendered HTML of a 
> dynamic Tiddler and copy it to a New Tiddler?*
>
>
> Please ask me to clarify if my question is not clear.
>
>
> Best wishes
>
> Josiah
>

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[tw] Re: Totally baffled! Can't get <> to work...

2017-05-25 Thread RichardWilliamSmith
Hi Steve,

For me, those both work exactly as I would expect
























Regards,
Richard

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[tw] Re: Query: Is it possible to copy RENDERED HTML of a Tiddler to a new Tiddler?

2017-05-25 Thread RichardWilliamSmith
I think this is quite an interesting problem. I don't have it worked out 
yet, but I think it's possible.

If you want to play around with this I suggest you be VERY CAREFUL! because 
there is a good chance of getting the wiki into an infinite loop, which 
will crash it. Obviously, don't do this with your 'real' wiki.

A tiddler with this code
 

> \define getsnaptitle()
> $(currentTiddler)$ Snapshot
> \end 
>
> <$wikify name="outputter" text={{!!text}} output="html">
>
> <$button>
> <$set name=snaptitle value=<>>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title=<> 
> tags="Snapshot" text=<>/>
> SNAP
> 
> 
>
> 


and tagged with $:/tags/ViewToolbar 
 will add a (big, ugly) 
button to the view toolbar that, when clicked will generate a new tiddler 
(in edit mode) which contains the text of the original one, but encoded in 
static html.

The reason you need to be careful (afaict) is that, if THAT tiddler is open 
anywhere it will try to generate a wikified copy of itself, which will 
generate a wikified copy of itself which will overflow the stack and 
crash your wiki.

I ended up creating the tiddler I needed through an edit text widget in 
another tiddler...

<$edit-text tiddler="$:/core/ui/Buttons/snapshot"/>


All a bit hacky and sub-optimal but it might get you going in the right 
direction. Obviously it can be neatened up and brought into line with the 
other page controls (an icon, ability to show/hide it etc.). Not sure how 
we preclude the possibility of a recursive loop (this problem must be 
solved elsewhere, right?)

I was trying to get it to save the tiddler after creating it, something 
like 

<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-save-tiddler" title=<>/>



But I couldn't get this to work and I'm not sure why.

Regards,
Richard 


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[tw] Re: Query - Is there a Save AND CLOSE Button?

2017-05-25 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Thanks RichardWS

Excellent! I will try it tomorrow.

Best wishes
Josiah

RichardWilliamSmith wrote:
>
> This seems to work ...
>

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[tw] Re: Query: Is it possible to copy RENDERED HTML of a Tiddler to a new Tiddler?

2017-05-25 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
B, thankyou very much, J.

Birthe C wrote:
>
> Jed's invoice creator here: 
> http://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/InvoiceCreator/
>

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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyFox seemed to stop working

2017-05-25 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Jeremy

I tested 2.0.2 with no problem, either in normal or private mode. (FWIW, 
I'm not using a dev version of Firefox, but the normal one with a couple of 
modified settings on permissions).

LIKE the previous version when you Disable ...

 "[ ] Always enable saving for this file"
 
... it only registers in the icon when you restart the browser. No big deal.

In another thread 
 I suggest 
that the previous "cat on world" icon could be replaced with the face of a 
cat that can better fill out the space available to an icon. Different 
states=different colors & facial expressions. Your current 2.0.2 icons are 
fine too but not thematic TW style icons.

Best wishes
Josiah


Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I’ve created a new 2.0.2-prerelease build that is configured for private 
> browsing.
>
> Please give it a try and report back before I submit it to Mozilla.
>

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[tw] Re: Query: Is it possible to copy RENDERED HTML of a Tiddler to a new Tiddler?

2017-05-25 Thread Birthe C
Hi Josiah,

Jed's invoice creator here: 
http://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/InvoiceCreator/


Birthe


Den fredag den 26. maj 2017 kl. 00.41.28 UTC+2 skrev @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> Ciao Jed
>
> I tried searching your site for "invoice creator" but didn't have any 
> luck. Maybe I wasn't looking in the right place? It would be interesting to 
> see a working example, even if incomplete. If it still exists could you 
> point me?
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>

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[tw] Re: Plugin which edits UI template - Conventions

2017-05-25 Thread Mat
IMO - and it it an opinion because I don't think there are any conventions 
for this - the better solution would be to make it into a separate 
"auxiliary" plugin. I don't know how you intend to serve your plugin/s but 
if it is from some public TW where the user is to drag'n drop, you can take 
advantage of the new "drag-pill" features, i.e tag both the main plugin and 
the aux plugin with a common tag and then present the single tag for people 
to drag'n drop into their TW.

BTW, this approach *ought *to be a convention for serving plugins IMO 
because it is much more elegant to present a pretty  pill  than some 
$:/plugins/ugly/link. ...but we shouldn't be forced to *tag* tiddlers to 
include them in such draggable pills. (See here 
 for elaboration).

<:-)

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[tw] Re: Totally baffled! Can't get <> to work...

2017-05-25 Thread Birthe C
Nice image. Those eyes are exactly how you recognise a tiddlywiki user.


Birthe

Den torsdag den 25. maj 2017 kl. 23.58.09 UTC+2 skrev @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> This is a brilliant discussion of how clever TW is. And how that 
> cleverness can trip you up. Is this a documentation issue? 
>
> Or is it just so rich you ever remain Grasshopper to the Masters? :-)
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
> Mat wrote:
>>
>> Using your example on tiddlywiki.com does show that tab content BUT the 
>>> tab label only reads "Images".
>>> Changing the argument AND the title of the tiddler in question to 
>>> "Image in WikiText" also displays the tab contents but the tab label is 
>>> still just reads "Images".
>>>
>>  
> Eric Shulman replied:
>
>> The <> macro uses the caption field if present, otherwise it shows 
>> the tiddler title.   [[Images in WikiText]] has a *caption* of "Images".
>>
>

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[tw] Re: Query - Is there a Save AND CLOSE Button?

2017-05-25 Thread RichardWilliamSmith
This seems to work (title:$:/core/ui/Buttons/save_and_close , 
tags:$:/tags/EditToolbar)

<$set name="ogtiddler" value={{!!draft.of}}>
> <$fieldmangler><$button tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/Save/Hint}} 
> aria-label={{$:/language/Buttons/Save/Caption}} 
> class=<>>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-tag" $param={{$:/temp/NewTagName}}/>
> <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler="$:/temp/NewTagName"/>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-field" 
> $name={{$:/temp/newfieldname}} $value={{$:/temp/newfieldvalue}}/>
> <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler="$:/temp/newfieldname"/>
> <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler="$:/temp/newfieldvalue"/>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-save-tiddler"/>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-close-tiddler" $param=<>/>
> <$list filter="[prefix[yes]]">
> OK
> 
> <$list filter="[prefix[yes]]">
> <$text 
> text={{$:/language/Buttons/Save/Caption}}/>
> 
> 
> 
> 


The mechanism is <$set name="ogtiddler" value={{!!draft.of}}> to grab the 
name of the tiddler and <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-close-tiddler" 
$param=<>/> to close it. 

Change 'OK' to whatever you'd like the button to look like.

Regards,
Richard
 

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[tw] Re: Query: Is it possible to copy RENDERED HTML of a Tiddler to a new Tiddler?

2017-05-25 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Jed

I tried searching your site for "invoice creator" but didn't have any luck. 
Maybe I wasn't looking in the right place? It would be interesting to see a 
working example, even if incomplete. If it still exists could you point me?

Best wishes
Josiah

Jed Carty wrote:
>
> The wikify widget probably does what you want it to do. I used it to save 
> old invoices in the invoice creator I made.
>

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[tw] Re: Totally baffled! Can't get <> to work...

2017-05-25 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
This is a brilliant discussion of how clever TW is. And how that cleverness 
can trip you up. Is this a documentation issue? 

Or is it just so rich you ever remain Grasshopper to the Masters? :-)



Best wishes
Josiah

Mat wrote:
>
> Using your example on tiddlywiki.com does show that tab content BUT the 
>> tab label only reads "Images".
>> Changing the argument AND the title of the tiddler in question to 
>> "Image in WikiText" also displays the tab contents but the tab label is 
>> still just reads "Images".
>>
>  
Eric Shulman replied:

> The <> macro uses the caption field if present, otherwise it shows 
> the tiddler title.   [[Images in WikiText]] has a *caption* of "Images".
>

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[tw] Re: Totally baffled! Can't get <> to work...

2017-05-25 Thread Mat
HAHAHAHAHAHA



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[tw] Re: Totally baffled! Can't get <> to work...

2017-05-25 Thread Eric Shulman
On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 1:33:26 PM UTC-7, Mat wrote:
>
> Using your example on tiddlywiki.com does show that tab content BUT the 
> tab label only reads "Images".
> Changing the argument AND the title of the tiddler in question to 
> "Image in WikiText" also displays the tab contents but the tab label is 
> still just reads "Images".
>

The <> macro uses the caption field if present, otherwise it shows 
the tiddler title.   [[Images in WikiText]] has a *caption* of "Images".

-e  

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[tw] Re: Totally baffled! Can't get <> to work...

2017-05-25 Thread Mat
I suspect a bug:

Using your example on tiddlywiki.com does show that tab content BUT the tab 
label only reads "Images".

Changing the argument AND the title of the tiddler in question to 
"Image in WikiText" also displays the tab contents but the tab label is 
still just reads "Images".

<:-)

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[tw] Re: Usable (pre-beta) version of Cardo - a new TW5 for Getting Things Done

2017-05-25 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao David

Cardo looks very much like an app that could work well with Noteself 
 -- which gets closer to proper multi-user 
support via a syncing remote database (whilst retaining total local TW 
existence offline too). Its looks very promising.

Have you looked at it?

More recently the explicit multi-user configuration 
 has gone into testing. 

Best wishes
Josiah 

On Thursday, 25 May 2017 21:54:28 UTC+2, David Szego wrote:
>
> Hi Ward,
>
> It's no more multi-user than TW itself is, but you can add as many people 
> as you want with the "Cardo" sidebar --> "New" tab --> "Person" button. 
> Each person will have their own dashboard. If you share the file (or host 
> with Node.js) they can look at their own dashboards for their 
> tasks/projects, and assign to others as needed.
>
> Autosave is also a core TW function that can be turned on/off in the 
> Control Panel. If you share a Node.js instance, you don't have to worry 
> about pushing changes.
>
> Cheers,
> David.
>
> On Thursday, 25 May 2017 11:47:20 UTC-4, Ward Holloway wrote:
>>
>> This appears to be multi-user? Does it autosave after each change? How do 
>> you push changes to users who have the file open? Just asking.
>>
>>

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[tw] Re: TiddlyFox - Design Issue - The GLOBE is too small

2017-05-25 Thread Ton Gerner
Hi Josiah,

You mean these mentioned in a post by you?
>
> Yes
 
I have seen some discussion about the icons used; can't find it at the 
moment.

Is there a place to see what's happening on all this? I might comment. But 
> not if its far on as the images you show will do the job well enough.
>
> The 'official' place for Tiddlyfox issues: 
https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlyFox/issues

Cheers,

Ton
 

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[tw] Re: TiddlyFox - Design Issue - The GLOBE is too small

2017-05-25 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Ton

You mean these mentioned in a post by you?

I was not aware. I quite like the idea of keeping a cat face :-)

Cat 1 - Saving, Green, Eyes open

Cat 2 - Not Saving, Blue, Eyes shut

Cat 3 - Not Saving & not a TW, Grey, Eyes shut

Cat 4 - Double Saving (i.e. One TW opened in more than one tab), Red, Eyes 
very wide in shock :-)

Is there a place to see what's happening on all this? I might comment. But 
not if its far on as the images you show will do the job well enough.

Best wishes
Josiah

Ton Gerner wrote:
>
> Did you see the new icons used in the new 2.0.2-prerelease build?
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/bU2fnqAxKUA/CC-wp2jOBQAJ
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[tw] Re: Usable (pre-beta) version of Cardo - a new TW5 for Getting Things Done

2017-05-25 Thread David Szego
Hi Ward,

It's no more multi-user than TW itself is, but you can add as many people 
as you want with the "Cardo" sidebar --> "New" tab --> "Person" button. 
Each person will have their own dashboard. If you share the file (or host 
with Node.js) they can look at their own dashboards for their 
tasks/projects, and assign to others as needed.

Autosave is also a core TW function that can be turned on/off in the 
Control Panel. If you share a Node.js instance, you don't have to worry 
about pushing changes.

Cheers,
David.

On Thursday, 25 May 2017 11:47:20 UTC-4, Ward Holloway wrote:
>
> This appears to be multi-user? Does it autosave after each change? How do 
> you push changes to users who have the file open? Just asking.
>
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[tw] Re: Query - Is there a Save AND CLOSE Button?

2017-05-25 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Thank you very much Eric

I really don't have the tech competence on this, to actually do it, but I 
think other people are interested too and would be great if we could solve 
this issue. 

I'm coming at it in terms of functional design. There are many kinds of 
applications where creating & editing should never lead to displaying the 
"fragment" created, since the "fragment" would only make sense when 
embedded into its intended context. If you get what I mean?

Best wishes
Josiah

On Thursday, 25 May 2017 19:34:39 UTC+2, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 9:04:11 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> I just double-checked it in a fresh empty TW. Sorry, its not closing the 
>> Tiddler.
>>
>
> I don't have a solution (yet), but here's some details that might help:
>

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Node.js vs. single HTML

2017-05-25 Thread Arlen Beiler
And here is the link!

https://gist.github.com/Arlen22/bbd852f68e328165e49f

Enjoy!

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Arlen Beiler  wrote:

> Here is a gist I made showing the gist of how to get multiple TiddlyWikis
> to run under one ExpressJS server. It works perfectly with Node HTTP server
> as well, but you need to do the express routing yourself.
>
> On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 1:47 PM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Your separate server could also run in another instance of node.js. But
>> it would have it's own IP number and so the served files could not be
>> accessed via TW as relative files. If there's a way to make the file server
>> run in the same instance as TW with the same IP and port, that would be
>> interesting to learn about.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 10:25:02 AM UTC-7, Conner Phillips wrote:
>>>
>>> You say a separate file server. Wouldn't just the appropriate module
>>> being loaded into the node.js server get the job done? What is the current
>>> state of media in node.js tiddlers? 64-bit encoded objects?
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 6:27:14 PM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:

 The ability to handle larger files is going to depend on the physical
 abilities of your machine. I have a pretty good set up, but hit the wall
 between around 20 megs. If you load your TW on a tablet or phone, the limit
 is going to be lower. It takes about 30 seconds or more to load a 10 meg
 file on my phone ... and sometimes it won't load at all. The thing to do
 would be to test your system. You can load up your TW pretty quickly by
 dragging and dropping images.

 With node.js, you can't refer to external images or files on your local
 device. To access them, you would need a separate file server. To me that's
 a big reason not to use node.js.

 Good luck!
 Mark

 On Monday, June 23, 2014 at 1:29:23 PM UTC-7, Ulrik Stervbo wrote:
>
> Hello list,
>
> What are the advantages of running the tiddlywiki as a node.js app
> rather than a single file? Other than the wiki is being run as a server 
> and
> can be accessed from outside.
>
> Are there any performance advantages? I am particularly thinking about
> memory usage: are the tid-files in the node.js read as needed or are they
> all read in at start up, making it not much different from the single HTML
> file variant?
>
> I am interested, because it seems I will be generating a large file -
> for now it is just 3mb, but when I add some long tables, it may become
> close to 10mb. And I will keep adding. I have seen posts that tiddlywiki
> starts to slow down dramatically at some point (20mb if my memory serves 
> me
> well). Is there any way to avoid that?
>
> Thanks for any comments.
>
> Cheers,
> Ulrik
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[tw] Re: TiddlyFox - Design Issue - The GLOBE is too small

2017-05-25 Thread Ton Gerner
Hi Josiah,

Did you see the new icons used in the new 2.0.2-prerelease build?

See:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/bU2fnqAxKUA/yn-sFBY_BQAJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/bU2fnqAxKUA/CC-wp2jOBQAJ

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Node.js vs. single HTML

2017-05-25 Thread Arlen Beiler
Here is a gist I made showing the gist of how to get multiple TiddlyWikis
to run under one ExpressJS server. It works perfectly with Node HTTP server
as well, but you need to do the express routing yourself.

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 1:47 PM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Your separate server could also run in another instance of node.js. But it
> would have it's own IP number and so the served files could not be accessed
> via TW as relative files. If there's a way to make the file server run in
> the same instance as TW with the same IP and port, that would be
> interesting to learn about.
>
> Mark
>
> On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 10:25:02 AM UTC-7, Conner Phillips wrote:
>>
>> You say a separate file server. Wouldn't just the appropriate module
>> being loaded into the node.js server get the job done? What is the current
>> state of media in node.js tiddlers? 64-bit encoded objects?
>>
>> On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 6:27:14 PM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> The ability to handle larger files is going to depend on the physical
>>> abilities of your machine. I have a pretty good set up, but hit the wall
>>> between around 20 megs. If you load your TW on a tablet or phone, the limit
>>> is going to be lower. It takes about 30 seconds or more to load a 10 meg
>>> file on my phone ... and sometimes it won't load at all. The thing to do
>>> would be to test your system. You can load up your TW pretty quickly by
>>> dragging and dropping images.
>>>
>>> With node.js, you can't refer to external images or files on your local
>>> device. To access them, you would need a separate file server. To me that's
>>> a big reason not to use node.js.
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 23, 2014 at 1:29:23 PM UTC-7, Ulrik Stervbo wrote:

 Hello list,

 What are the advantages of running the tiddlywiki as a node.js app
 rather than a single file? Other than the wiki is being run as a server and
 can be accessed from outside.

 Are there any performance advantages? I am particularly thinking about
 memory usage: are the tid-files in the node.js read as needed or are they
 all read in at start up, making it not much different from the single HTML
 file variant?

 I am interested, because it seems I will be generating a large file -
 for now it is just 3mb, but when I add some long tables, it may become
 close to 10mb. And I will keep adding. I have seen posts that tiddlywiki
 starts to slow down dramatically at some point (20mb if my memory serves me
 well). Is there any way to avoid that?

 Thanks for any comments.

 Cheers,
 Ulrik

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[tw] Re: TiddlyFox - Design Issue - The GLOBE is too small

2017-05-25 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
B, Good point I overlooked, J.

Birthe C wrote:
>
> I like that  the icon turn red, when I open the same TW in more than one 
> tab. That happens.
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[tw] Re: Query: Is it possible to copy RENDERED HTML of a Tiddler to a new Tiddler?

2017-05-25 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao all,

Thanks for your helpful & fun (Mark S.) comments ... My response ...

*Why save Rendered HTML to file if you can save it to a Tiddler?* --- I 
think that's a pretty fine question by me :-).

There are real efficiency benefits in capturing rendered HTML directly to a 
Tiddler ...

(1) Most importantly, easy organisation of Fred's reports within his 
TiddlyWiki: *HugeLeeks*; 

(2) Fred is using TW list filters to compose *Fred's Leeks Monthly*, before 
passing it to Gmail. Often he wants to make some manual changes to the text 
he sees on screen first. *He can't do that in a dynamic Tiddler, he needs a 
Rendered version to be able to edit anything. *

[BTW: Fred, was very surprised to see, when he first used a list filter and 
opened it and it read "<$list This bit is made by another bit>" rather than 
"*My greatest Leek was ...*" that showed on-screen.]

(3) Fred needs to edit Old Reports on occasion--as the standards required 
by the The Leek Examination Board change the rules (again). 

(4) Dragging an html into #TiddlyWiki is a kind of solution (one I use 
already) BUT to integrate it back, if its an export, you have to do quite a 
lot of editing to reduce to ONLY the section needed by a standard tiddler 
type.

Best wishes
Josiah


Mark S. wrote:

> Apparently his report was leeked.
>

LOL! 

If he had exported the report as a static file, he'd have a copy on his 
hard drive. If he wanted it saved as a tiddler, he could drag and drop the 
report back into his TW, give it a new name (e.g. 2017-05 Leek Report) and 
tag it as "Report". Takes only a couple seconds.

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[tw] Re: TiddlyFox - Design Issue - The GLOBE is too small

2017-05-25 Thread Birthe C
I like that  the icon turn red, when I open the same TW in more than one 
tab. That happens.

Birthe


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[tw] Totally baffled! Can't get <> to work...

2017-05-25 Thread stevesuny
I am trying to create a tab to the tiddler [[Images in WikiText]]  
(literally, that exact tiddler). I tried typing this into a new tiddler in 
TiddlyWiki.com:

<>

but it didn't work.

This works for the second tab, but not the first...

<>

Why?

//steve.


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[tw] Re: TiddlyFox - Design Issue - The GLOBE is too small

2017-05-25 Thread Conner Phillips
I support this 100%. This didn't bite me in the rear, but I did loose a few 
items when just playing around with something. I can easily imagine how, as 
it is right now, go really south for somebody.

On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 8:15:57 PM UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> I been following the discussions on problems people been having on saving. 
> Many turn out to be no fault in TiddlyFox. Just users are not noticing the 
> different states of "enablement" of the TiddlyFox plugin. Not noticing you 
> need to explicitly enable saving for each TW separately now.
>
> The new icon in Firefox is pretty small and its quite easy not to notice 
> whether its globe is BLUE or GREEN when navigated to a TW. Elegant though 
> the design is, I think something that fills the space available for the 
> icon would be better, like the face of a cat, that changes color on 
> enabled state. This kind of icon ...
>
> Or maybe the WHOLE existing icon change color on enablement state?
>
> ALSO might be worth saying that the color states might better be RED for 
> not currently saving, and GREEN for currently saving, this TiddlyWiki. 
> Bland GREY, as is, for other pages 
>
> Just thoughts.
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>

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[tw] TiddlyFox - Design Issue - The GLOBE is too small

2017-05-25 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
I been following the discussions on problems people been having on saving. 
Many turn out to be no fault in TiddlyFox. Just users are not noticing the 
different states of "enablement" of the TiddlyFox plugin. Not noticing you 
need to explicitly enable saving for each TW separately now.

The new icon in Firefox is pretty small and its quite easy not to notice 
whether its globe is BLUE or GREEN when navigated to a TW. Elegant though 
the design is, I think something that fills the space available for the 
icon would be better, like the face of a cat, that changes color on enabled 
state. This kind of icon ...

Or maybe the WHOLE existing icon change color on enablement state?

ALSO might be worth saying that the color states might better be RED for 
not currently saving, and GREEN for currently saving, this TiddlyWiki. 
Bland GREY, as is, for other pages 

Just thoughts.

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw] Re: Query: Is it possible to copy RENDERED HTML of a Tiddler to a new Tiddler?

2017-05-25 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
When you say used a list filter to produce a report, what do you mean? If 
he had exported the report as a static file, he'd have a copy on his hard 
drive. If he wanted it saved as a tiddler, he could drag and drop the 
report back into his TW, give it a new name (e.g. 2017-05 Leek Report) and 
tag it as "Report". Takes only a couple seconds.

But I understand that one of Fred's competitors got the jump on him. 
Apparently his report was leeked.

Mark

On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 10:32:01 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>
>
> *Q: Is it possible to copy RENDERED HTML of a Tiddler to a new Tiddler?*I've 
> asked about this before but I think my question was not so clear. I'm 
> trying again, here is a Use Case ...
>
>- Fred has a large allotment on which he grows leeks for vegetable 
>competitions;
>
>
>- Fred uses TiddlyWiki to log, daily, the various nutrients he feeds 
>his leeks; he also makes notes on weather conditions; as well as leek 
> girth;
>
>
>- Monthly, Fred uses a list filter to produce a report on the state of 
>his leeks.
>
>
>- One morning Fred went into shock as he realised he had NO copy of 
>his previous reports. Since the Leek Exhibition Certification Board 
>requires ARCHIVES of previous reports in order to exhibit he got into a 
>depressed state.
>
> This jovial example is not entirely mad. "Fred's" life would a lot easier 
> IF he had a simple way to capture the RENDERED HTML of his dynamically 
> created reports to a New Tiddler on the day he made one. Then he could have 
> his needed archive of results ready and to hand.
>
>
> ---
>
>
> Technically what I can see is the "Export" to HTML does produce rendered 
> pages. But for this purpose only the contents of the  section would 
> be needed for a Tiddler since everything else needed for layout is already 
> there.
>
>
> *Has anyone ever dealt with this issue, i.e. capture Rendered HTML of a 
> dynamic Tiddler and copy it to a New Tiddler?*
>
>
> Please ask me to clarify if my question is not clear.
>
>
> Best wishes
>
> Josiah
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Node.js vs. single HTML

2017-05-25 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Your separate server could also run in another instance of node.js. But it 
would have it's own IP number and so the served files could not be accessed 
via TW as relative files. If there's a way to make the file server run in 
the same instance as TW with the same IP and port, that would be 
interesting to learn about.

Mark

On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 10:25:02 AM UTC-7, Conner Phillips wrote:
>
> You say a separate file server. Wouldn't just the appropriate module being 
> loaded into the node.js server get the job done? What is the current state 
> of media in node.js tiddlers? 64-bit encoded objects?
>
> On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 6:27:14 PM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> The ability to handle larger files is going to depend on the physical 
>> abilities of your machine. I have a pretty good set up, but hit the wall 
>> between around 20 megs. If you load your TW on a tablet or phone, the limit 
>> is going to be lower. It takes about 30 seconds or more to load a 10 meg 
>> file on my phone ... and sometimes it won't load at all. The thing to do 
>> would be to test your system. You can load up your TW pretty quickly by 
>> dragging and dropping images.
>>
>> With node.js, you can't refer to external images or files on your local 
>> device. To access them, you would need a separate file server. To me that's 
>> a big reason not to use node.js.
>>
>> Good luck!
>> Mark
>>
>> On Monday, June 23, 2014 at 1:29:23 PM UTC-7, Ulrik Stervbo wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello list,
>>>
>>> What are the advantages of running the tiddlywiki as a node.js app 
>>> rather than a single file? Other than the wiki is being run as a server and 
>>> can be accessed from outside.
>>>
>>> Are there any performance advantages? I am particularly thinking about 
>>> memory usage: are the tid-files in the node.js read as needed or are they 
>>> all read in at start up, making it not much different from the single HTML 
>>> file variant?
>>>
>>> I am interested, because it seems I will be generating a large file - 
>>> for now it is just 3mb, but when I add some long tables, it may become 
>>> close to 10mb. And I will keep adding. I have seen posts that tiddlywiki 
>>> starts to slow down dramatically at some point (20mb if my memory serves me 
>>> well). Is there any way to avoid that?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any comments.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ulrik
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Query: Is it possible to copy RENDERED HTML of a Tiddler to a new Tiddler?

2017-05-25 Thread Conner Phillips
If you need it to be archived, why are you doing it in a single dynamic 
tiddler? Simplest but less streamlined: screencap and include the image. 

However my suggestion would be to keep ALL of the data and give each data 
tiddler a field referring to the 'batch number' or calendar week-- however 
you delimite when these reports are generated. Then, create a template for 
your reports and use a fresh new tiddler for each report which only lists 
filtering based on the "report number" field. 

On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 7:32:01 PM UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>
>
> *Q: Is it possible to copy RENDERED HTML of a Tiddler to a new Tiddler?*I've 
> asked about this before but I think my question was not so clear. I'm 
> trying again, here is a Use Case ...
>
>- Fred has a large allotment on which he grows leeks for vegetable 
>competitions;
>
>
>- Fred uses TiddlyWiki to log, daily, the various nutrients he feeds 
>his leeks; he also makes notes on weather conditions; as well as leek 
> girth;
>
>
>- Monthly, Fred uses a list filter to produce a report on the state of 
>his leeks.
>
>
>- One morning Fred went into shock as he realised he had NO copy of 
>his previous reports. Since the Leek Exhibition Certification Board 
>requires ARCHIVES of previous reports in order to exhibit he got into a 
>depressed state.
>
> This jovial example is not entirely mad. "Fred's" life would a lot easier 
> IF he had a simple way to capture the RENDERED HTML of his dynamically 
> created reports to a New Tiddler on the day he made one. Then he could have 
> his needed archive of results ready and to hand.
>
>
> ---
>
>
> Technically what I can see is the "Export" to HTML does produce rendered 
> pages. But for this purpose only the contents of the  section would 
> be needed for a Tiddler since everything else needed for layout is already 
> there.
>
>
> *Has anyone ever dealt with this issue, i.e. capture Rendered HTML of a 
> dynamic Tiddler and copy it to a New Tiddler?*
>
>
> Please ask me to clarify if my question is not clear.
>
>
> Best wishes
>
> Josiah
>

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[tw] Re: Query: Is it possible to copy RENDERED HTML of a Tiddler to a new Tiddler?

2017-05-25 Thread Jed Carty
The wikify widget probably does what you want it to do. I used it to save 
old invoices in the invoice creator I made.

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[tw] Re: Query - Is there a Save AND CLOSE Button?

2017-05-25 Thread Eric Shulman
On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 9:04:11 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> I just double-checked it in a fresh empty TW. Sorry, its not closing the 
> Tiddler.
>

I don't have a solution (yet), but here's some details that might help:

This is the message being sent to close the tiddler
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-close-tiddler" $param=<>/>

However, because this button is invoked while editing the tiddler, the 
value of <> includes the "Draft of" prefix (i.e, Draft of 
'Foobar').

Fortunately, when a tiddler is being edited, the underlying title (i.e., 
without the "Draft of" prefix) is available in the "draft.title" field. 
 Thus, you can write:
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-close-tiddler" $param={{!!draft.title}}/>

Unfortunately, after a quick test on TiddlyWiki.com, this also does not 
seem to work as desired and the underlying tiddler is still not being 
closed.

I think the problem may be a matter of timing.  At the moment that the 
button is pressed, only the "Draft of" tiddler is displayed and the 
underlying tiddler is not. Thus, while you can issue a tm-close-tiddler to 
close the currently visible draft tiddler, the message to close the 
underlying tiddler is ignored since that tiddler is not actually "open" at 
the time. 

-e
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[tw] Query: Is it possible to copy RENDERED HTML of a Tiddler to a new Tiddler?

2017-05-25 Thread @TiddlyTweeter


*Q: Is it possible to copy RENDERED HTML of a Tiddler to a new Tiddler?*I've 
asked about this before but I think my question was not so clear. I'm 
trying again, here is a Use Case ...

   - Fred has a large allotment on which he grows leeks for vegetable 
   competitions;


   - Fred uses TiddlyWiki to log, daily, the various nutrients he feeds his 
   leeks; he also makes notes on weather conditions; as well as leek girth;


   - Monthly, Fred uses a list filter to produce a report on the state of 
   his leeks.


   - One morning Fred went into shock as he realised he had NO copy of his 
   previous reports. Since the Leek Exhibition Certification Board requires 
   ARCHIVES of previous reports in order to exhibit he got into a depressed 
   state.

This jovial example is not entirely mad. "Fred's" life would a lot easier 
IF he had a simple way to capture the RENDERED HTML of his dynamically 
created reports to a New Tiddler on the day he made one. Then he could have 
his needed archive of results ready and to hand.


---


Technically what I can see is the "Export" to HTML does produce rendered 
pages. But for this purpose only the contents of the  section would 
be needed for a Tiddler since everything else needed for layout is already 
there.


*Has anyone ever dealt with this issue, i.e. capture Rendered HTML of a 
dynamic Tiddler and copy it to a New Tiddler?*


Please ask me to clarify if my question is not clear.


Best wishes

Josiah

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[tw] Plugin which edits UI template - Conventions

2017-05-25 Thread Conner Phillips
So this related to my little project to tie git into the node.js server. I 
would like to have a edit-text widget available in the edit template up by 
the save button to be able to quickly add your commit message before 
saving. I have figured out how to do this no problem. But I believe editing 
templates is getting more into the realm of theming than plugins (I know 
they are principally the same). Would there be an appropriate way to hook 
this template mod into the set of plugin tiddlers, or would it be best to 
include this as an instructions set with the plugin so users can add this 
regardless of their theme?

Thanks all

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Node.js vs. single HTML

2017-05-25 Thread Conner Phillips
You say a separate file server. Wouldn't just the appropriate module being 
loaded into the node.js server get the job done? What is the current state 
of media in node.js tiddlers? 64-bit encoded objects?

On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 6:27:14 PM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>
> The ability to handle larger files is going to depend on the physical 
> abilities of your machine. I have a pretty good set up, but hit the wall 
> between around 20 megs. If you load your TW on a tablet or phone, the limit 
> is going to be lower. It takes about 30 seconds or more to load a 10 meg 
> file on my phone ... and sometimes it won't load at all. The thing to do 
> would be to test your system. You can load up your TW pretty quickly by 
> dragging and dropping images.
>
> With node.js, you can't refer to external images or files on your local 
> device. To access them, you would need a separate file server. To me that's 
> a big reason not to use node.js.
>
> Good luck!
> Mark
>
> On Monday, June 23, 2014 at 1:29:23 PM UTC-7, Ulrik Stervbo wrote:
>>
>> Hello list,
>>
>> What are the advantages of running the tiddlywiki as a node.js app rather 
>> than a single file? Other than the wiki is being run as a server and can be 
>> accessed from outside.
>>
>> Are there any performance advantages? I am particularly thinking about 
>> memory usage: are the tid-files in the node.js read as needed or are they 
>> all read in at start up, making it not much different from the single HTML 
>> file variant?
>>
>> I am interested, because it seems I will be generating a large file - for 
>> now it is just 3mb, but when I add some long tables, it may become close to 
>> 10mb. And I will keep adding. I have seen posts that tiddlywiki starts to 
>> slow down dramatically at some point (20mb if my memory serves me well). Is 
>> there any way to avoid that?
>>
>> Thanks for any comments.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ulrik
>>
>

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Node.js vs. single HTML

2017-05-25 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I haven't tried this yet, but just today I was reading about cryptomater 
(https://cryptomator.org/) which encrypts your data before loading to drop 
box. It (or something like it) might be able to add a layer of security.

Good luck,
Mark


On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 at 8:09:25 AM UTC-7, dodoo wrote:
>
> I choose Node.js for the same reason. 
> But I am worry about the security issue of cloud storage. Is there handy 
> tool can automatically encrypt .tid file in local before sync with cloud?
>
> 在 2014年6月24日星期二UTC+8下午3时28分16秒,Xavier写道:
>>
>> Hi Ulrik,
>>
>> I am interested, because it seems I will be generating a large file - for 
>>> now it is just 3mb, but when I add some long tables, it may become close to 
>>> 10mb. And I will keep adding. I have seen posts that tiddlywiki starts to 
>>> slow down dramatically at some point (20mb if my memory serves me well). Is 
>>> there any way to avoid that?
>>>
>>
>> If you use a sync app like owncloud or dropbox to keep your files safe, 
>> you will see an advantage to the server mode in terms of bandwith usage: 
>> instead of synchronising one big file each time you are changing a tiddler, 
>> you'll sync only the file corresponding to the tiddler you are editing. 
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Xavier.
>>
>>
>>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Node.js vs. single HTML

2017-05-25 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
The ability to handle larger files is going to depend on the physical 
abilities of your machine. I have a pretty good set up, but hit the wall 
between around 20 megs. If you load your TW on a tablet or phone, the limit 
is going to be lower. It takes about 30 seconds or more to load a 10 meg 
file on my phone ... and sometimes it won't load at all. The thing to do 
would be to test your system. You can load up your TW pretty quickly by 
dragging and dropping images.

With node.js, you can't refer to external images or files on your local 
device. To access them, you would need a separate file server. To me that's 
a big reason not to use node.js.

Good luck!
Mark

On Monday, June 23, 2014 at 1:29:23 PM UTC-7, Ulrik Stervbo wrote:
>
> Hello list,
>
> What are the advantages of running the tiddlywiki as a node.js app rather 
> than a single file? Other than the wiki is being run as a server and can be 
> accessed from outside.
>
> Are there any performance advantages? I am particularly thinking about 
> memory usage: are the tid-files in the node.js read as needed or are they 
> all read in at start up, making it not much different from the single HTML 
> file variant?
>
> I am interested, because it seems I will be generating a large file - for 
> now it is just 3mb, but when I add some long tables, it may become close to 
> 10mb. And I will keep adding. I have seen posts that tiddlywiki starts to 
> slow down dramatically at some point (20mb if my memory serves me well). Is 
> there any way to avoid that?
>
> Thanks for any comments.
>
> Cheers,
> Ulrik
>

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Node.js vs. single HTML

2017-05-25 Thread Xavier Cazin
Hi Mike,

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Mike Smith  wrote:

> If tiddlers are stored in separate files, does that mean that multiple
> users can edit the wiki as long as they dont edit the same tiddler? For
> tiddlers, a save then overwrites the file that was previously there?
>

Yes to both questions.

Cheers,
-- Xavier Cazin

On Tuesday, 24 June 2014 08:06:01 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Ulrik
>
> > Are there any performance advantages? I am particularly thinking about
> memory usage: are the tid-files in the node.js read as needed or are they
> all read in at start up, making it not much different from the single HTML
> file variant?
>
> Under Node.js all tiddlers are loaded into memory at startup, so there is
> little difference in terms of performance.
>
> But of course you can run TW under Node.js to generate a static,
> JavaScript-less version of a wiki; in practice that can often give much
> better performance in the browser.
>
> > I am interested, because it seems I will be generating a large file -
> for now it is just 3mb, but when I add some long tables, it may become
> close to 10mb. And I will keep adding. I have seen posts that tiddlywiki
> starts to slow down dramatically at some point (20mb if my memory serves me
> well). Is there any way to avoid that?
>
> We've had reports of people being able to run TW5 documents of 50-100mb.
> There are some functions of TW5 that get slower with more tiddlers (mainly
> the sidebar lists), but it's straightforward to adapt the UI to avoid them.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Ulrik Stervbo 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello list,
>>
>> What are the advantages of running the tiddlywiki as a node.js app rather
>> than a single file? Other than the wiki is being run as a server and can be
>> accessed from outside.
>>
>> Are there any performance advantages? I am particularly thinking about
>> memory usage: are the tid-files in the node.js read as needed or are they
>> all read in at start up, making it not much different from the single HTML
>> file variant?
>>
>> I am interested, because it seems I will be generating a large file - for
>> now it is just 3mb, but when I add some long tables, it may become close to
>> 10mb. And I will keep adding. I have seen posts that tiddlywiki starts to
>> slow down dramatically at some point (20mb if my memory serves me well). Is
>> there any way to avoid that?
>>
>> Thanks for any comments.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ulrik
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[tw] Re: Query - Is there a Save AND CLOSE Button?

2017-05-25 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Ton

I just double-checked it in a fresh empty TW. Sorry, its not closing the 
Tiddler.

Thanks for indicating its been discussed before. 

Best wishes
Josiah 


Ton Gerner wrote:
>
> Hmmm... I thought it worked when I tested it.
> Don't know what is wrong with the code.
> Anyhow I found an interesting discussion: 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/tiddlywiki/_76g9VsbTAM/w0sNd-i8BAAJ
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Re: [tw] [TW5] Node.js vs. single HTML

2017-05-25 Thread Mike Smith
If tiddlers are stored in separate files, does that mean that multiple 
users can edit the wiki as long as they dont edit the same tiddler? For 
tiddlers, a save then overwrites the file that was previously there?

cheers

mike

On Tuesday, 24 June 2014 08:06:01 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Ulrik
>
> > Are there any performance advantages? I am particularly thinking about 
> memory usage: are the tid-files in the node.js read as needed or are they 
> all read in at start up, making it not much different from the single HTML 
> file variant?
>
> Under Node.js all tiddlers are loaded into memory at startup, so there is 
> little difference in terms of performance.
>
> But of course you can run TW under Node.js to generate a static, 
> JavaScript-less version of a wiki; in practice that can often give much 
> better performance in the browser.
>
> > I am interested, because it seems I will be generating a large file - 
> for now it is just 3mb, but when I add some long tables, it may become 
> close to 10mb. And I will keep adding. I have seen posts that tiddlywiki 
> starts to slow down dramatically at some point (20mb if my memory serves me 
> well). Is there any way to avoid that?
>
> We've had reports of people being able to run TW5 documents of 50-100mb. 
> There are some functions of TW5 that get slower with more tiddlers (mainly 
> the sidebar lists), but it's straightforward to adapt the UI to avoid them.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Ulrik Stervbo  > wrote:
>
>> Hello list,
>>
>> What are the advantages of running the tiddlywiki as a node.js app rather 
>> than a single file? Other than the wiki is being run as a server and can be 
>> accessed from outside.
>>
>> Are there any performance advantages? I am particularly thinking about 
>> memory usage: are the tid-files in the node.js read as needed or are they 
>> all read in at start up, making it not much different from the single HTML 
>> file variant?
>>
>> I am interested, because it seems I will be generating a large file - for 
>> now it is just 3mb, but when I add some long tables, it may become close to 
>> 10mb. And I will keep adding. I have seen posts that tiddlywiki starts to 
>> slow down dramatically at some point (20mb if my memory serves me well). Is 
>> there any way to avoid that?
>>
>> Thanks for any comments.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ulrik
>>
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[tw] Re: Usable (pre-beta) version of Cardo - a new TW5 for Getting Things Done

2017-05-25 Thread Ward Holloway
This appears to be multi-user? Does it autosave after each change? How do 
you push changes to users who have the file open? Just asking.


On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 7:09:22 PM UTC-4, David Szego wrote:
>
> Hi all!
>
> So, about a month after my first announcement, I've now got a very usable 
> version of Cardo (dGSD for TW5) to share at 
>
> http://cardo.wiki
>
> Like my older dGSD for TW Classic, and mGSD before it, you can track 
> projects, tasks, meetings, agenda items, people, contact info, and 
> conversation logs. It's even nice and responsive for tablet or large-phone 
> use.
>
> There are a good few bugs yet, but nothing that would prevent you from 
> using it daily.
>
> Hoping for some good feedback! Be critical, and tell me your use cases so 
> I can get a sense of how to make it work more practically for you.
>
> Cheers,
> David.
>
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[tw] Re: Query - Is there a Save AND CLOSE Button?

2017-05-25 Thread Ton Gerner
Hi Josiah,

Hmmm... I thought it worked when I tested it.
Don't know what is wrong with the code.
Anyhow I found an interesting discussion: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/tiddlywiki/_76g9VsbTAM/w0sNd-i8BAAJ

Cheers,

Ton

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[tw] Re: Is it possible to put the sidebar buttons at the top?

2017-05-25 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Matthew 

The minimalism of that solution is really excellent, IMO. I think it would 
have great relevance to smartphone usage, in addition to people like me who 
like screen estate on desktops. 

I like the way its done it because it reflects the "meaning of the 
sidebar", rather than be a full-on alternative, if you get what I mean? 

The only thing that might be useful to add would be an (optional?) search 
box?

Best wishes
Josiah

On Wednesday, 24 May 2017 19:40:52 UTC+2, Matthew Lauber wrote:
>
> Here you go.  Whatever buttons you show in the sidebar when it's open will 
> show up in the topbar when it's closed.
>

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[tw] Re: Ghostwriter theme by Rory Gibson adapted for TW5

2017-05-25 Thread Riz
Hi, 

I am currently a little pressed for time. So it will be some time before I 
can get hold of the what is wrong.  Can you provide some more details 
meanwhile? Here  is an screenshot of the theme 
working in chrome. Is yours different? Which TW version are you using? I 
have not really managed to get around to testing them in 5.1.14,probably 
will take some time before I can that. Which OS are we talking about? 


On Thursday, 25 May 2017 04:00:16 UTC+5:30, Charles Ridout wrote:
>
> Riz:
>
> I do not have the programming knowledge to make these changes myself. I 
> hope you can help.
>
> A few observations and one request:
>
> 1) In the Chrome browser the tiddler titles are not being centered as they 
> are in Firefox.
> 2) In the Chrome browser the drop down contents exceed the size of the 
> "box". This does not occur in Firefox.
>
> Request:
>
> I would like to change the color of the solid bar, to be similar to what 
> is seen in the Moments theme, when viewing a tiddler.
>
> Thx
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 1, 2016 at 11:49:58 PM UTC-4, Riz wrote:
>>
>> Ghostwriter is a popular, minimalist and mobile responsive theme for the 
>> blogging platform ghost. Recently I adapted it for TW5
>>
>> Screenshots http://imgur.com/a/5XReS
>>
>> Demo https://ibnishak.github.io/ghostwriter/
>>
>> If you want to try it out, backup your wiki, download this json, drag and 
>> drop it to your wiki. 
>> https://github.com/ibnishak/ghostwriter/tree/theme-json
>>
>>
>> Let me know how it works out for you.
>>
>

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[tw] Re: Query - Is there a Save AND CLOSE Button?

2017-05-25 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Ton

Thankyou!

I put it in. The icon appears in edit mode. Clicking it saves, but in my 
5.1.14 in Firefox it is not close the Tiddler :-(.

Josiah

On Thursday, 25 May 2017 15:42:52 UTC+2, Ton Gerner wrote:
>
> Hi Josiah,
>
> tags: $:/tags/EditToolbar
> title: Save & close button
>
> <$fieldmangler><$button tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/Save/Hint}} aria-
> label={{$:/language/Buttons/Save/Caption}} class=< >>>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-tag" $param={{$:/temp/NewTagName}}/>
> <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler="$:/temp/NewTagName"/>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-field" $name={{$:/temp/newfieldname
> }} $value={{$:/temp/newfieldvalue}}/>
> <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler="$:/temp/newfieldname"/>
> <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler="$:/temp/newfieldvalue"/>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-save-tiddler"/>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-close-tiddler" $param=<>
> />
> <$list filter="[prefix[yes]]">
> {{$:/core/images/done-button}}{{$:/core/images/close-button}}
> 
> <$list filter="[prefix[yes]]">
> <$text text={{$:/language/Buttons/Save/Caption
> }}/>
> 
> 
> 
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ton
>
>

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[tw] Re: Is it possible to put the sidebar buttons at the top?

2017-05-25 Thread Matthew Lauber
I've proposed this is a change to the default behavior at github. 
 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2871

On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 1:40:52 PM UTC-4, Matthew Lauber wrote:
>
> Here you go.  Whatever buttons you show in the sidebar when it's open will 
> show up in the topbar when it's closed.
>
> created: 20170524173725525
> modified: 20170524173926916
> tags: $:/tags/TopRightBar
> title: $:/core/ui/TopBar/menu
>
> \define config-title()
> $:/config/PageControlButtons/Visibility/$(listItem)$
> \end
>
> <$reveal state="$:/state/sidebar" type="nomatch" text="no">
> <$button set="$:/state/sidebar" setTo="no" 
> tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/HideSideBar/Hint}} 
> aria-label={{$:/language/Buttons/HideSideBar/Caption}} 
> class="tc-btn-invisible">{{$:/core/images/chevron-right}}
> 
> <$reveal state="$:/state/sidebar" type="match" text="no">
> <$list 
> filter="[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag[$:/tags/PageControls]!has[draft.of]]" 
> variable="listItem">
> <$reveal type="nomatch" state=<> text="hide">
> <$transclude tiddler=<> mode="inline"/>
> 
> 
> <$button set="$:/state/sidebar" setTo="yes" 
> tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/ShowSideBar/Hint}} 
> aria-label={{$:/language/Buttons/ShowSideBar/Caption}} 
> class="tc-btn-invisible">{{$:/core/images/chevron-left}}
> 
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 10:41:35 AM UTC-4, j3d1H wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure this can be done, but is there a plugin or something I can 
>> change to make a scrolling top bar that has the sidebar buttons on it? 
>> Like, the save button, the full-screen button, control panel button, all of 
>> those would be on the top, and they scroll with me as I scroll down the 
>> story river?
>>
>> I would also prefer it if the sidebar buttons returned to the sidebar if 
>> I open it, and the sidebar is as normal. Thanks in advance for anyone who 
>> tries and/or succeeds to help!
>>
>

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[tw] Re: Query - Is there a Save AND CLOSE Button?

2017-05-25 Thread Ton Gerner
Hi Josiah,

tags: $:/tags/EditToolbar
title: Save & close button

<$fieldmangler><$button tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/Save/Hint}} aria-label
={{$:/language/Buttons/Save/Caption}} class=<>>
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-tag" $param={{$:/temp/NewTagName}}/>
<$action-deletetiddler $tiddler="$:/temp/NewTagName"/>
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-field" $name={{$:/temp/newfieldname}} 
$value={{$:/temp/newfieldvalue}}/>
<$action-deletetiddler $tiddler="$:/temp/newfieldname"/>
<$action-deletetiddler $tiddler="$:/temp/newfieldvalue"/>
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-save-tiddler"/>
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-close-tiddler" $param=<>/>
<$list filter="[prefix[yes]]">
{{$:/core/images/done-button}}{{$:/core/images/close-button}}

<$list filter="[prefix[yes]]">
<$text text={{$:/language/Buttons/Save/Caption
}}/>





Cheers,

Ton

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[tw] Query - Is there a Save AND CLOSE Button?

2017-05-25 Thread @TiddlyTweeter


*Q: Is there a Save AND CLOSE Button?*After editing or creating a Tiddler I 
am forever having to click the "X". In many use cases this is inefficient & 
creates *visual clutter* by persisting Tiddlers that don't need to be open.

For example, using Telmiger's ToDoNow plugin you get one consolidated 
Tiddler that has all the information needed. But when you add or edit a 
Tiddler in it you have to explicitly close it to bring back into focus the 
ToDoNow Tiddler. 

In a more general sense, when one's TiddlyWiki works through some MAIN 
Tiddler, the rest are slaves to its Transclusions. The result of edits show 
relevantly IN that Transclusion, not in displaying fragments. In many 
situations this situation is not optimal.

So, I am interested in having the option to "Save & Close" rather than 
having to "Tick" THEN "X". 

Has anyone done that? I have to ask as I have no idea myself how to do it.

Please ask me to explain more if this is unclear.

Best wishes
Josiah

 

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[tw] Re: Can I do this with LaTeX?

2017-05-25 Thread Stephen Wilson
I'm guessing that's a 'NO' then...

On Saturday, 20 May 2017 17:36:24 UTC+1, Ste Wilson wrote:
>
> If I invoke latex with
> <$latex text="...">
> Is there a way to put a feild variable or tranclusion between the quotes 
> and have it render as Tex?
>
> now I've typed this I'm wondering if I've asked it before... oh well.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Stephen 
>
>

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