[tw5] Setting up TiddlyWiki on shared hosting

2020-06-01 Thread CraigB
Hi,
I have another related question I couldn’t get the PHP type server working  
(just got errors that I don’t understand 😀) but I got node.js working on dream 
host and a Raspberry Pi. The problem is I need to serve it off its host, 
(hopefully this is the right terminology) I’ve been reading as much info as I 
can find and I noticed that the listen command can specify an IP address.  
--listen [=]...
Is the  host and the value the IP address I want? Thanks!

Craig B
NZ 


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[tw5] Re: NotoWritey - A proposed simple document editor for TW

2020-06-01 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

It's starting to look more outliney. The process of deciding changing 
behaviour by level leaves all sorts of paragraph breaks, which I haven't 
completely discovered how to deal with yet. 



On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 10:55:03 AM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>
>
> One of my intended goals is to bring outlining capability in some fashion 
> to TW.
>
> I think ... I hope ... I've got the logic working. Well, the logic for 
> folding/hiding.
>
> The screenshot below may not look very much like an outliner, but it shows 
> the fundamental logic is working. Each item can have an outline level of 1 
> to 5 (arbitrary, but who looks at anything below 5?). The F checkbox means 
> folded. Items with a lower number above them (where a lower number means 
> higher in the outline tree) are hidden if the item above them is folded. 
> The big clumsy unfold symbol means every thing below is folded/hidden.
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyGov - large scale government intranet

2020-06-01 Thread TonyM
Merging Codes,

As with Hans I am intrigued. Your links are primarily to coding standards 
and hosting options. I am not sure what "large intranet for government 
using tiddlywiki" is conceived as. Riz points out that Jeremy has put an 
Amazon web service solution together with a lot of content for, I think, 
legal resources. So I believe he is the only one that is done this at 
scale, but I think Jeds Bob is running in a team environment.

The potential scope for the needs of a government Intranet are vast, and 
whilst tiddlywikis possibilities are vast, I do consider tiddlywiki a 
platform, I still feel the multi-user multi-access and security of 
tiddlywiki may not work well with a large intranet except in so far as 
publishing individual websites or software tools.

But if I knew more about what a Government Intranet would need... other 
than my own guessing.

Whilst I say Tiddlywiki may not be suitable, I continue to develop the idea 
of using tiddlywiki as a "business intelligence" environment. I am 
interested in loosely coupled tiddlywikis and using tiddlywiki to generate 
sites. I suppose what I am saying at this point in time such an application 
as a large intranet is in tiddlywikis future, but not here now. But we may 
start somewhere so it becomes in its future.

I have build extensive SharePoint Intranet sites, even tiddlywiki on top of 
sharepoint for a paid customer, but tiddlywiki is still seems only a niche 
solution at this point.

I too am intrigued about the idea of using it as an intranet environment 
and will give it more thought.

To  me it is a matter of scaling whilst keeping the modularity.

Regards
Tony
 

On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 8:25:22 PM UTC+10, Merging Codes wrote:
>
> What would be the best way to set up a large intranet for government using 
> tiddlywiki?  I want to put together a pitch about using TW for knowledge 
> management.
>
>
> This will hopefully give an idea of the IT resources at hand:
>
> https://developer.gov.bc.ca/Data-and-APIs/BC-Government-API-Guidelines
>
>
> https://developer.gov.bc.ca/Getting-Started-on-the-DevOps-Platform/BC-Government-OpenShift-Container-Platform-Service-Definition
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Personal News

2020-06-01 Thread Ikasten Enneco-Gotzon
Take care of your health, Jeremy, it is the best investment.

I wish you a full recovery.

Greetings from the Vascon-Navarrese Country.

On Monday, May 18, 2020 at 10:59:36 AM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I should let you all know that I have somehow contracted Covid-19, despite 
> being in careful lockdown for two months. I haven't been tested (this is 
> the UK), but the symptoms have gradually become unmistakeable over the last 
> week and a half. It's all tolerable at the moment, and I remain hopeful 
> that this is a mild dose of the disease. My doctor says that I can be 
> cautiously optimistic that I've had symptoms for so long without developing 
> the really dangerous ones. I've been told unequivocally to rest, and so 
> I'll likely be out of action for at least a few days. 
>
> I'm very happy there's so much activity on the group just now, but 
> naturally frustrated not to be able to keep up. Hopefully I'll be back 
> soon, and in the meantime please take care of yourselves and each other, 
>
> Best wishes 
>
> Jeremy 
>
> -- 
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> jer...@jermolene.com  
> https://jermolene.com

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[tw5] Re: --render command

2020-06-01 Thread Soren Bjornstad
Having made the same mistake...you need to put the --output bit in the same 
command line as the --render part.

tiddlywiki --output path/to/output/directory/ --render [!is[system]] [
encodeuricomponent[]addprefix[tiddlers/]addsuffix[.html]]


On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 10:16:02 AM UTC-5, selfire wrote:
>
> Hey, I have a question about the `--render` command. I have specified the 
> output but still can't find my exported files anywhere. The specific 
> command is:
>
> tiddlywiki -—render [!is[system]] [encodeuricomponent[]addprefix[tiddlers
> /]addsuffix[.html]]
>
> Where can I find the .html files? Thanks for the help!
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyGov - large scale government intranet

2020-06-01 Thread HansWobbe
"Merging Codes":

I am quite intrigued by this idea of yours.  In fact, enough so, that I am 
even prepared to collaborate and help prepare such a presentation.

For your information, Elections BC is a DataFix customer (along with all of 
the other Provincial Elections Authorities west of Quebec, about 1/2 of the 
ones east of Quebec, and some 330 Cities).  You may be aware of the fact 
that many Elections Authorities are considering options to traditional 
voting practices given the tragic example of Wisconsin's recent election.. 
One alternative that is receiving a lot of attention is Vote By Mail.  
That, of course, will raise the bar for Canadian Address Quality standards. 

For various reasons we are now discussing the development of an all 
inclusive "Address Management, Canada" (AdManCa) database and related API 
based services.

I'd be happy to "brainstorm" further how TiddlyWiki may fit into all of 
this.

Cheers,
Hans

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[tw5] Re: Preview: keyboard driven draggable bullets

2020-06-01 Thread Saq Imtiaz
@Reet it isn't a bad idea, just a very different end workflow and 
experience and not what I am aiming for. It would be easy enough to 
implement so perhaps someone will tweak my code to do it later. In fact 
once I've added templating support it might be possible to use a custom 
template to achieve something somewhat similar.

@Birthe I didn't watch the video but I have heard the term before I 
think its the same idea for me. Getting you thoughts down in a stream, as 
fluently as possible, with the added bonus of then being able to split it 
up and organize it.

Maybe it just needs to be called Stream or Streamer. Or maybe someone else 
will jump in to drive this further and take over the naming conundrum as 
well ;)

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[tw5] Re: NotoWritey - A proposed simple document editor for TW

2020-06-01 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

One of my intended goals is to bring outlining capability in some fashion 
to TW.

I think ... I hope ... I've got the logic working. Well, the logic for 
folding/hiding.

The screenshot below may not look very much like an outliner, but it shows 
the fundamental logic is working. Each item can have an outline level of 1 
to 5 (arbitrary, but who looks at anything below 5?). The F checkbox means 
folded. Items with a lower number above them (where a lower number means 
higher in the outline tree) are hidden if the item above them is folded. 
The big clumsy unfold symbol means every thing below is folded/hidden.



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[tw5] Re: showing tiddly description field instead of its name

2020-06-01 Thread springer
This isn't quite what you're asking, but I just want to make sure that you 
(and/or newcomers who find this thread) are aware of the existing way of 
getting something more descriptive (or concise, etc.) into tabs and lists 
(etc.) — namely, the caption field:

By default, if the caption field for a tiddler has a value, your tab set 
will use that field to label the tabs; if there is no such field, it will 
show the title. 

Are you using the caption field for some other purpose, so that you cannot 
use it for what you're calling "description"?

If you already have put work into populating a "description" field, there's 
also a utility here somewhere in this group for renaming fields. Follow up 
if that would be useful. 

-Springer

On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 4:17:13 AM UTC-4, Zia Khan wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I have this code for tabs in my tiddlywiki. I would like show description 
> field instead of the name of the tidddly.
>
> can someone please guide me how i can do this?
>
> here is the code for tabs
>
>
> 
>
> <$list filter="[tag[Objectives]!sort[created]limit[1]]">
>   <$macrocall $name="tabs" 
> tabsList="[tag[Objectives]sort[objective_sort]]" default={{!!title}} 
> class="tc-vertical" template="ReleaseTemplate"  />
> 
>
> 
>

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[tw5] Any way to change message in Github saver?

2020-06-01 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Is there any way to save a message in GitHub saver? So we can 
include a title that's more specific than "Saved by TiddlyWiki" ?

Thanks!

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[tw5] Re: TW: The Wilderness Years

2020-06-01 Thread TiddlyTweeter
TiddlyWiki is like ThunderBird 2 ... https://youtu.be/kD4kS-GJRUY

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[tw5] Re: TW: The Wilderness Years

2020-06-01 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Fish can hear you thinking before they sneeze. We need deal with that 
before there is a cheesy birdmess on tags,.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR4lLJu_-wE&t=81s

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[tw5] --render command

2020-06-01 Thread selfire
Hey, I have a question about the `--render` command. I have specified the 
output but still can't find my exported files anywhere. The specific 
command is:

tiddlywiki -—render [!is[system]] [encodeuricomponent[]addprefix[tiddlers/]
addsuffix[.html]]

Where can I find the .html files? Thanks for the help!

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[tw5] Re: Big fan of Drift! Also just started using it for Interstitial Journaling.

2020-06-01 Thread Osin
+1

I also started test-driving it for a few days and I'm liking it so far. 
Pretty smooth experience.

I plan on test-driving Stroll and maybe TiddlyRoam as well.


On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 9:52:23 AM UTC-3, Rhod Evans wrote:
>
> Hi - Drift has finally made me a convert to Tiddlywiki.  For once I don't 
> have any newbie questions (for the moment) - I just wanted to thank Tony K 
> for a brilliant re-imagining of what's possible in Tiddlywiki.  Thank you!
>

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[tw5] Re: TW: The Wilderness Years

2020-06-01 Thread TiddlyTweeter
I do think we need be careful to not get the condition that strikes one off 
the list of the ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS37SNYjg8w

I personally think a WOMAN can use a TiddlyWiki as well a man.

TT

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[tw5] Re: TW: The Wilderness Years

2020-06-01 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Lovely

I'm The Urban Spaceman 


TT

On Monday, 1 June 2020 14:59:43 UTC+2, Birthe C wrote:
>
> TT and TonyM,
>
> How can any of you think about beforeTW - and especially after TW. 
> *DISASTER*.
>
> If Elon Musk had send TW into space, we would have to be astronauts. Think 
> about that!
>
>
> Birthe
>

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[tw5] Re: TW: The Wilderness Years

2020-06-01 Thread Birthe C
TT and TonyM,

How can any of you think about beforeTW - and especially after TW. 
*DISASTER*.

If Elon Musk had send TW into space, we would have to be astronauts. Think 
about that!


Birthe

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[tw5] Big fan of Drift! Also just started using it for Interstitial Journaling.

2020-06-01 Thread Rhod Evans
Hi - Drift has finally made me a convert to Tiddlywiki.  For once I don't 
have any newbie questions (for the moment) - I just wanted to thank Tony K 
for a brilliant re-imagining of what's possible in Tiddlywiki.  Thank you!

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[tw5] Re: TW: The Wilderness Years

2020-06-01 Thread TiddlyTweeter
As an Australian you'll understand that I sojourned in the OZ outback 
looking for the Ultimate Wiki for some time.

I had sight of her at The Edge Of The World 
,
 
Tasmania, but lost her. I was late and am ashamed I missed the Billabong 
.


Always searching, TT


On Monday, 1 June 2020 13:49:29 UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>
> TT
>
> Is that your own words?
>
> To me I think of it as the years BT and AT BEFORE AND AFTER TIDDLYWIKI. 
> Are the wilderness years BT?
>
> tony
>
>

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[tw5] TW: The Wilderness Years

2020-06-01 Thread TonyM
TT

Is that your own words?

To me I think of it as the years BT and AT BEFORE AND AFTER TIDDLYWIKI. Are the 
wilderness years BT?

tony

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyGov - large scale government intranet

2020-06-01 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Very right comment. 

On Monday, 1 June 2020 12:36:49 UTC+2, Riz wrote:
>
> You need to contact Jeremy directly. He offers setting up such projects 
> through Federatial. 
>
> Sincerely,
> Riz
>

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[tw5] Re: Lazy Loading and Performance of TW5

2020-06-01 Thread Sebastián Ortega
Hello Bala,

I'm using tiddlywiki with the node setup and lazy loading of images. It 
works well because you don't download the images until the moment you need 
to display them. That increases a lot the performance if you have many 
images.

Regarding the other question I don't think I understand what you want to do

On Sunday, 31 May 2020 10:31:54 UTC+2, balasubramanian Achuthan wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have been using TW5 for some time now and i love it. I have decided to 
> use TW5. i am moving all my notes in various format (.md, .txt) to TW5. 
> Till yesterday, i had imported around 100+ tiddlers. I came across an 
> article on inserting "external Images", and it was suggested not to copy 
> paste the images directly into a tiddler, as it may have performance 
> impact. Recommended approach was to use "_canonical_uri' to import the 
> images.
>
> The problem i have is, i have large collection of text as well as 
> graphical snippets from web and other sources for my Masters. So saving 
> each and every image to a directory and then importing to TW5 may take lot 
> of time. So i was looking for some alternative. Can you guys please 
> clarify? Currently i am using a single static HTML (TiddlyDesktop way) to 
> store my Notes. In-fact i have lot of image snippets than text.
>
> 1. I was looking at articles on Lazy Loading images. (
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#LazyLoading). If i move to node.js way of storing 
> tiddlers, and lazy load all the images (using base64encodedRawData in HTML) 
> - am i improving the performance ?  Could not find more details on the 
> wiki, so asking here.
>
> 2. I want to organize my TW5 Wiki as a note book for each Research Area 
> and index it using a global TW5 Wiki
>
> e.g.
> NotesWiki (TW5)
>   -- Maths
>   -- Cryptography
>   -- Data Privacy
>   -- Security
>
> If there is way for TW5 to export tags and links using a Query like e.g. 
> Maths.html#Content (where content could be a top level tag / tiddler), i 
> can call this from NotesWiki to display the list with a link. Do we have 
> such mechanism ?
>
> Thanks,
> Bala.
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Menubar Customization / Sticky Titles

2020-06-01 Thread Stobot
Birthe - thanks, the padding setting you suggested worked great. 

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[tw5] Re: NotoWritey - A proposed simple document editor for TW

2020-06-01 Thread TiddlyTweeter

*Comment on Taggery #2*
IMO using tags is excellent for NW in that they are easy, shown, are good 
for structure, user understandable, easily changeable.

The fact in TW we use tags both semantically & structurally is par for the 
course.

The upsides are good. Why would I need a value buried in a special field? 
Its not gonna perform any better and its harder to see.

My 2 cents.

TT

On Sunday, 31 May 2020 19:28:33 UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>
>  In NW, every tiddler split into other tiddlers gets added to the list 
> field of the main tag. Likewise, every tiddler deleted (via the interface) 
> is removed from the list field of the main tag.
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyGov - large scale government intranet

2020-06-01 Thread Riz
You need to contact Jeremy directly. He offers setting up such projects 
through Federatial. 

Sincerely,
Riz

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[tw5] Re: Preview: keyboard driven draggable bullets

2020-06-01 Thread Birthe C

Journaling: How to Write Stream of Consciousness 


Birthe

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[tw5] Re: NotoWritey - A proposed simple document editor for TW

2020-06-01 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Mark S. wrote:
>
>
> I... 'm also thinking of adding the ability to allow the user to join up 
> the next X items. So you could join the next 3 paragraphs to the current 
> tiddler, mark them as "no split", and just keep that as one "semantic 
> unit.". Behind the scenes, the original paragraphs would be deleted.
>
 
Great idea. In my case often just to next would help. But being able to go 
further would be ace.

TT

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[tw5] TiddlyGov - large scale government intranet

2020-06-01 Thread Merging Codes
What would be the best way to set up a large intranet for government using 
tiddlywiki?  I want to put together a pitch about using TW for knowledge 
management.


This will hopefully give an idea of the IT resources at hand:

https://developer.gov.bc.ca/Data-and-APIs/BC-Government-API-Guidelines

https://developer.gov.bc.ca/Getting-Started-on-the-DevOps-Platform/BC-Government-OpenShift-Container-Platform-Service-Definition

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[tw5] Re: Preview: keyboard driven draggable bullets

2020-06-01 Thread Reet Pandher
Hi Saq,

Why not use implement both of those use cases?
Have 2 lines show up when creating a bullet. The 1st line will be the 
tiddler title and the second line will be the tiddler text/body. Down arrow 
key should be able to navigate between two rows since the titles aren't 
going to be more than a single line anyway. Once you move on to the next 
bullet point only the title line is visible. Once you click on the title, 
the body becomes visible again

Forgive me if my idea sounds too impractical. I speak from a non-coding 
user POV so my ideas are bound to be a little stupid :)


On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 2:51:53 PM UTC+5:30, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
> @Reet that's a use case I considered and is entirely valid, though far 
> more limited in potential. There is nothing stopping anyone from 
> implementing that though and it would be pretty easy.
>
> @Birthe I am generally terrible at names. Whether it be projects, macros 
> or methods. I'd like to avoid the use of the terms Tiddly and Tiddler as 
> they seem overused and somewhat redundant for something that can only exist 
> inside of TiddlyWiki. The stream part refers more to the experience of 
> writing quickly and easily rather than the structure.. but the name was 
> always meant to be a temporary working name. Please keep the suggestions 
> coming. 
>

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[tw5] Re: NotoWritey - A proposed simple document editor for TW

2020-06-01 Thread TiddlyTweeter
*Comment On Taggery #1*

FYI I had to pre-populate the tag's list field manually to get it to 
co-operate for cases where I needed NW to recognise the tagged existed.

That is not A NW issue. Just a comment.

TT

Mark S. wrote:
>
>  In NW, every tiddler split into other tiddlers gets added to the list 
> field of the main tag. Likewise, every tiddler deleted (via the interface) 
> is removed from the list field of the main tag.
>

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[tw5] Re: NotoWritey - A proposed simple document editor for TW

2020-06-01 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Mark S. wrote:
>
> I think if people want a detailed split, then they should use the slicer 
> edition. The SE uses the sax.js library to break down things atomically. 
> However, even it doesn't always get it right -- you see remainders of HTML 
> tags in the sample split. The problem with the slicer edition is that the 
> result isn't really portable -- it needs to be viewed inside the slicer 
> edition, AFAIK.
>

Fully agree. The Slicer is excellent if you don't want to look into the 
mechanics of HOW it does it.

I'm working from POV that I "already cleaned my input". I tried slicer but 
its not for me. Mainly because I already know how to prep a page for input.

Horses for courses?

TT

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[tw5] Re: NotoWritey - A proposed simple document editor for TW

2020-06-01 Thread TiddlyTweeter
You know I have a mind.

The potential language of NW is interesting. Its pretty neat on 
"splitology".

Conceptually & pragmatically its a "fragment aware" editor.

TT

On Saturday, 30 May 2020 22:57:37 UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>
>
>
> On Friday, May 29, 2020 at 5:43:00 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>
>>- You can now do <> inside a tiddler and it will attempt to 
>>default to using the current tiddler as the document tag.
>>- New prompts for initialization, with some help to make the initial 
>>tiddler based on the current file name
>>- A "no split" option
>>- A delete button
>>
>> Be sure to backup anything that's important, since the new stuff is 
>> barely tested and lots of internal changes had to happen.
>>
>>
> More updates. You can now hide the edit toolbar if you want. There are 
> buttons to save all-up HTML to clipboard or a specified tiddler, and 
> corresponding buttons for wiki text. These new options are on the bottom of 
> your document. 
>

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[tw5] Re: Preview: keyboard driven draggable bullets

2020-06-01 Thread Saq Imtiaz
@Reet that's a use case I considered and is entirely valid, though far more 
limited in potential. There is nothing stopping anyone from implementing that 
though and it would be pretty easy.

@Birthe I am generally terrible at names. Whether it be projects, macros or 
methods. I'd like to avoid the use of the terms Tiddly and Tiddler as they seem 
overused and somewhat redundant for something that can only exist inside of 
TiddlyWiki. The stream part refers more to the experience of writing quickly 
and easily rather than the structure.. but the name was always meant to be a 
temporary working name. Please keep the suggestions coming. 

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[tw5] Re: NotoWritey - A proposed simple document editor for TW

2020-06-01 Thread TiddlyTweeter
*Small Issue #3 -- Higlighting*

Hover highlight don't work on type "text/plain" in a NW instance.

TT



On Saturday, 30 May 2020 02:43:00 UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I've made some updates! But haven't updated the docs.
>
>
>- You can now do <> inside a tiddler and it will attempt to 
>default to using the current tiddler as the document tag.
>- New prompts for initialization, with some help to make the initial 
>tiddler based on the current file name
>- A "no split" option
>- A delete button
>
> Be sure to backup anything that's important, since the new stuff is barely 
> tested and lots of internal changes had to happen.
>
> Based on some of the comments, I think people may have the mistaken 
> impression that NW uses tags for structuring. There is only one tag (and 
> it's associated tiddler) per "document." So you won't pollute tag-space any 
> faster than you add documents.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 8:17:07 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> I'm working on a simple editor for TW. It combines ideas from the Slicer 
>> edition plus the idea of object creation from TiddlyBlink to create a 
>> somewhat Dynalist-like experience (except no outlining yet). In Dynalist 
>> you seamlessly switch from display mode to edit mode by just clicking on 
>> the working text.
>>
>> Has something like this already been done? Does this look useful? Or just 
>> more of the same?
>>
>> Note: In the following, you should see screenshots. Sometimes GG likes to 
>> omit them ...
>>
>> You start with your editor like this. The existing tiddlers are clickable 
>> text:
>>
>>
>> Clicking on a link opens up an editor where you can add more text
>>
>> :
>>
>> When you close the editor, paragraphs are split out into their own 
>> editable sections:
>>
>> Behind the scenes, tiddlers are created based on the original (pre-split) 
>> tiddler name. Everything is held together by a common tag, which also 
>> provides the ordering.
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Preview: keyboard driven draggable bullets

2020-06-01 Thread Birthe C
Saq,

For the name:
Then it is not bullet-stream, it is tiddlier-stream,  but the tiddlers are 
swimming together collected in the river. *Tiddler shoal.*

Birthe

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[tw5] Re: Preview: keyboard driven draggable bullets

2020-06-01 Thread Reet Pandher
Hi Saq,

Wouldn't making the bullet text the tiddler title make more sense? 

I say this because here's the use case i had imagined for this:

I will have a single tiddler that will display a logical structure of how all 
my tiddlers are arranged, what is connected to what; sort of like TiddlyMap but 
with bulleted list. It'd also be a way better alternative to creating a 
contents tab.

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[tw5] Re: Preview: keyboard driven draggable bullets

2020-06-01 Thread Saq Imtiaz
*Demo has been updated:*
https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/bullets.html

*What's new:*
- Added new keyboard shortcuts Alt+Up and Alt+Down to move the bullet being 
edited up or down the list.
- Hitting enter with the caret in the middle of text now drops subsequent 
text new bullet
- Fixed bug reported by @pmario related to root tiddlers with spaces in 
titles.
- Roadmap is updated

*Other thoughts based on feedback so far:*
- Suggestions for a better name are welcome. The problem with BulletStream 
is that it further strengthens the association between bullets and a single 
line of text.
-- Each "bullet" is a tiddler. Which is far more powerful and versatile 
than an item in a simple un-ordered HTML list.
-- The "dot" for the "bullet" is just a minimal styling to help distinguish 
different tiddlers and a place to have controls to drag/click. They could 
be styled entirely differently as well.
- Decided to continue using relink plugin to handle renaming, at least 
until this is stable. Then we can re-evaluate if a custom hook might be 
more efficient and lightweight.

*Muti-line content and essays*
I would like to encourage everyone not see this as just something that can 
be used for short lines of text in a hierarchy. It works really well for 
writer long text that needs to be split into multipe tiddlers, allowing you 
to control the splitting as you type. I used this to write documentation 
for a different project this morning and the experience was terrific. I had 
the convenience of writing in one place and ended up with 6 distinct 
manageable and logically chunked tiddlers. The only thing that felt lacking 
was an easier way to rename the resultant tiddlers rather than having to 
open and edit each one.

*Next steps*
 I would still love to see greater collaboration from other developers, 
whether in terms of contributing to this code or using the patterns therein 
to create their own solutions as there is a lot of potential here for 
alternate workflows. That probably needs a little time. 

 In fact it is to facilitate contribution and participation that my code 
goes out of its way to rely on just wikitext and only resorting to 
JavaScript where absolutely necessary. In fact, I consider my original goal 
of sharing a pattern on how to implement this kind of functionality to have 
been achieved. How and whether we take this further depends ultimately on 
the TW community.

Cheers,
Saq

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[tw5] showing tiddly description field instead of its name

2020-06-01 Thread Zia Khan
Hi,
I have this code for tabs in my tiddlywiki. I would like show description 
field instead of the name of the tidddly.

can someone please guide me how i can do this?

here is the code for tabs




<$list filter="[tag[Objectives]!sort[created]limit[1]]">
  <$macrocall $name="tabs" tabsList="[tag[Objectives]sort[objective_sort]]" 
default={{!!title}} class="tc-vertical" template="ReleaseTemplate"  />




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[tw5] Re: Preview: keyboard driven draggable bullets

2020-06-01 Thread Saq Imtiaz
@SizzlingSJ both questions are still under consideration and ultimately I 
think will be guided by the usage patterns that emerge.

The issue with export is that the content of each bullet is a tiddler and 
therefore can be multiline. We don't really have a format in TW that 
supports both hierarchical lists and multiline content. So either we come 
up with a suitable way to export that would work for most types of content, 
or we document examples of how people can write their own macros to handle 
exports. Afterall, it is all just tiddlers so a few nested recursive list 
widgets can output the data however you want.

Similarly, I'd like to have a better way to get data into bullets/tiddlers, 
especially hierarchical data. I welcome input on what data formats people 
feel should be supported. Any such support may again take the form of a 
supplemental plugin or module, as I see imports as being an occasional use 
case and not something that is an essential part of the workflow offered... 
until someone comes along and shows me I am completely wrong about that. :) 

Regards,
Saq

On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 8:27:25 AM UTC+2, SizzlinSJ wrote:
>
> Question,
> Any way we can configure it to 
> 1. Split data into bullets based on usual (*) and indents using (**,***) 
> as relations and not linebreaks,
> Example, 
> * Topic
> ** Subtopic
> ***  Subtopic 2
>
> Or
>
> 2. Export the bullet list made in TW as flat text using (*) or (any char) 
> like the above example.  
>

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[tw5] Re: (Early) Query: Could We Do "Rich Previews" ?

2020-06-01 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao TonyM

I agree. RichLinks is a neat plugin that simplifies embeds enormously.

But the OP is about "Rich Previews".

1 - They are enabled in sites by adding meta data IN the head section of 
HTML for the big networks to detect. That is doable in TWs already.

2 - BUT what I was also trying to get at is whether, FROM TW, we can, via 
JS, probe sites that don't do (1) to approximate it.


Hope this is clearer!

TT

On Saturday, 30 May 2020 12:42:06 UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>
> Have you folks seen the rich links plugin. It may answer or inspire you.
>
> Tony 
>

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[tw5] TiddlyDesktop bug with local links in Cyrillic

2020-06-01 Thread 'Jake' via TiddlyWiki
I was having troubles (and still do) trying to open links like [[Cyrillic 
link|file:///g:\!Notebook\Записная1]]. So I tried to use it in Unicode 
[[Cyrillic 
link|file:///G:/!Notebook/%D0%97%D0%B0%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F1]] 
but with the same result.
I asked people here on the forum and they said they have no problem with 
those. So I just decided that's just my local system problem. Untill I 
tried opening my TW in a browser, not in the TiddlyDesktop that I was 
usually working in. And everything works just fine! Both ways: either in 
Cyrillic letters or with Unicode.

So my petition to those who develop TiddlyDesktop: could you make it handle 
links to local folders in Cyrillic and Unicode in general the same way it 
handles links in Latin?

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[tw5] Re: Simple way to link image to Tiddler?

2020-06-01 Thread 'Jake' via TiddlyWiki
Yes! That's exactly what I wanted! Thanks Eric!

понедельник, 1 июня 2020 г., 2:23:48 UTC+3 пользователь Eric Shulman 
написал:
>
> On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 3:54:41 PM UTC-7, Jake wrote:
>>
>> Looks like partial solution is to make it an actual button:
>> <$button>
>> <$action-navigate $to="Sample One"/>
>> [img [imgurl]] 
>> 
>> but this way the image will look like an actual button, with borders and 
>> stuff. How to make it stay looking like a normal image?
>>
>
> Add "tc-btn-invisible" class, like this:
> <$button class="tc-btn-invisible">...
>
> Note also that the $button widget directly support navigation via the 
> "to=..." param, like this:
> <$button class="tc-btn-invisible" to="Sample One">[img[imgurl]]
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>

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