date:20200816

David,

1) Regarding Firefox dying: 
> https://www.zdnet.com/article/an-endangered-internet-species-firefox/
>

Firefox is still my favourite, and that is all that is important to me, is 
not surprising the commercial organisations advertising budget is reducing 
popularity, however I am not so sure about those stats. I use firefox all 
day for tiddlywiki and more, I use Chrome a few times a day, and edge/IE 
occasionally. How does my usage show in the Stats? The article is about 
finance and revenues I imagine you can understand this in no way impacts my 
browser choice.

Many of the most desirable plugins I want are now back in FireFox and the 
new mechanisms, I think Timimi uses - "Service Workers?" stands to offer 
better features in the long run.

>
> 2) I am using Timimi on Firefox and it is working great.
>

Good, and that is when it worked for a long time before chrome. As others 
have said, Both browsers need their own plugin/addon and the matching host 
component, the executable. When the version first supported chrome in 
checked all components were updated, now I have no problem on either 
browser.

>
> 3) Maybe I just need help configuring Timimi on Chrome? I added the Timimi 
> extension to Chrome, but it still saves the "Chrome" way - saving a 
> duplicate of the file for every save, but the changes do not get saved in 
> the original file. So if I have it bookmarked, the bookmark will open a 
> file without the changes. So it looks like I would have to go into the 
> folder every day and delete the duplicates and rename the last duplicate 
> with the original filename. I don't want to do that. 
>

This is simply broken behaviour as far as I can see. Perhaps check you do 
not have another mechanisum for backups and saving active.

>
> 4) You didn't reply to my main question, about TiddlyDesktop... :-)
>

Sorry, Yes, the answer is if you drop content on Tiddlydesktop it may get 
imported to, and break the "Backstage" wiki. If you wanted to import to the 
backstage wiki (unlikely) open it and import there.

The only ways to add Wikis to tiddly desktop that I have used is to use the 
add buttons and point to an existing one,  Although there are templates 
documented in the backstage or help button that will be used when no 
file/folder is present. It is quite happy to open a Wiki I created under 
Bob.

Best of luck
Tony/Tones

>
> On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 8:02:47 AM UTC-5 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> David
>>
>> I don't understand your first sentence. If you do not want a server 
>> version timimi makes tiddlywiki easier and more reliable than any time in 
>> its history, on chrome and firefox, and how is Firefox diminished in any 
>> way?
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: How to make a shortcut to edit the top tiddler?

Please check my post when you are available thank you~ 

On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 3:26:20 PM UTC+8, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#How%20to%20create%20keyboard%20shortcuts
>
> This filter will give you the topmost tiddler: [list[$:/StoryList]first[]]
>
> Also see: 
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#ActionSendMessageWidget:ActionSendMessageWidget%20%5B%5BWidgetMessage%3A%20tm-edit-tiddler%5D%5D
>
> On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 5:12:37 AM UTC+2, Zhe Lee wrote:
>>
>> Every time I want edit the tiddler I need to click the "pen" button. I 
>> think make a shortcut to make it will be a lot better. 
>>
>> I have two idea: 
>> 1. just edit the top tiddler by shortcut
>> 2. press a key first and every tidder show a number pic on it, like 
>> vimium link hint feature.  And then type the number or hint. But this seems 
>> a lot harder to make. 
>>
>> [image: Snipaste_2020-08-15_11-11-11.jpg]
>>
>> Any you give me a hint to do the first idea. Which manual should I read? 
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: How to make a shortcut to edit the top tiddler?



[image: Snipaste_2020-08-17_13-43-48.jpg]


Hi Saq,about the list syntax I don't know  How to make it yet.  I try to 
use the list wiget to interpret it. But not work.  Can you make it more 
clearly?  How do I use it in my case? 

 This code not work for me.

<$navigator story="$:/StoryList" history="$:/HistoryList">
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-edit-tiddler" 
> $param="[list[$:/StoryList]first[]]"/>
> 




On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 3:26:20 PM UTC+8, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#How%20to%20create%20keyboard%20shortcuts
>
> This filter will give you the topmost tiddler: [list[$:/StoryList]first[]]
>
> Also see: 
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#ActionSendMessageWidget:ActionSendMessageWidget%20%5B%5BWidgetMessage%3A%20tm-edit-tiddler%5D%5D
>
> On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 5:12:37 AM UTC+2, Zhe Lee wrote:
>>
>> Every time I want edit the tiddler I need to click the "pen" button. I 
>> think make a shortcut to make it will be a lot better. 
>>
>> I have two idea: 
>> 1. just edit the top tiddler by shortcut
>> 2. press a key first and every tidder show a number pic on it, like 
>> vimium link hint feature.  And then type the number or hint. But this seems 
>> a lot harder to make. 
>>
>> [image: Snipaste_2020-08-15_11-11-11.jpg]
>>
>> Any you give me a hint to do the first idea. Which manual should I read? 
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: How to make the global shortcut?




[image: Snipaste_2020-08-17_13-43-48.jpg]
 Thanks a lot. I missed this part. It worked

On Monday, August 17, 2020 at 12:43:05 PM UTC+8, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
> Wrap the actions in a navigator widget
>
> <$navigator story="$:/StoryList" history="$:/HistoryList"/>
> <$action-sendmessage..
> 
>
>
>
> On Monday, August 17, 2020 at 4:20:49 AM UTC+2, Zhe Lee wrote:
>>
>> [image: Snipaste_2020-08-17_10-19-09.jpg]
>>
>> I follow the instructions here and make the tiddler like this, but 
>> nothing happens when I press alt-e, 
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#How%20to%20create%20keyboard%20shortcuts
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: How to make the global shortcut?

2020-08-16 Thread Saq Imtiaz

Wrap the actions in a navigator widget

<$navigator story="$:/StoryList" history="$:/HistoryList"/>
<$action-sendmessage..




On Monday, August 17, 2020 at 4:20:49 AM UTC+2, Zhe Lee wrote:
>
> [image: Snipaste_2020-08-17_10-19-09.jpg]
>
> I follow the instructions here and make the tiddler like this, but nothing 
> happens when I press alt-e, 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#How%20to%20create%20keyboard%20shortcuts
>

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[tw5] How to make the global shortcut?



[image: Snipaste_2020-08-17_10-19-09.jpg]

I follow the instructions here and make the tiddler like this, but nothing 
happens when I press alt-e, 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#How%20to%20create%20keyboard%20shortcuts

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[tw5] Re: [Showcase] My personal website generated using Tiddlywiki

2020-08-16 Thread Donald Coates

Wow I am really impressed and excited for a step by step.  I really want to 
use tiddlywiki as a static site generator and what you have produced far 
exceeds what I thought was possible.

On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 9:32:04 AM UTC-4 bmad...@gmail.com wrote:

> Here: http://adithyab.in/
>
> Thanks to Jeremy, Anne-Laure Le Cunff, Saq and everyone on this group for 
> the help and inspiration.
>
> If there is interest, I can try to make the plugin open source once I fix 
> a few issues.
>

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[tw5] Re: Differentiate

Vincent,

With a fresh mind this morning thinking about contra indicators.

   - Contra indications need to be associated with a possible diagnosis
   - When the regular indications are giving rise to a list of possible 
   diagnosis;
  - List any contra indications associated with each possible diagnosis 
  (if it has a contra indication)
   - Selecting the contra indication, will exclude that diagnosis from the 
   possible results
   - Once selected a contra indication only rules out a diagnosis with that 
  contra indication,
  - However in other cases the same question may be an indicator only
   
Conclusion
 a contra indication can be the same as a normal indication, however it 
becomes a contra indication if linked to a diagnosis via a special 
relationship.

   - A diagnosis may be tagged with various indicators
   - A Second tag field, or list field can store a list of Indications to 
   instead be considered contra-indications

Mario's Alt-tags or Gen tags allows you to have more than one tags field. 
Perhaps a tag field for indications, and another for contra-indications 
would be a smart approach, these tag fields could be hidden unless the 
tiddler is a "diagnosis" or a contra/or Indication. You can then keep the 
regular tags free for other organisation needs.

Food for though complete

Tones

On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 8:09:14 PM UTC+10, Vincent vd B wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Syndrome Differentiation:
> To make a diagnosis, look for indications to differentiate between 
> possible syndromes.
>
> I have tiddlers who each describe a syndrome.
> and tiddlers describing an indication (tagged with the syndromes wich it 
> is indicating to).
>
> What I want is some kind of checklist with all indications. (A list of all 
> tiddlers with the tag: Indication)
> If I tick a indication:
> All indications that do not refer to that specific syndrome disappear from 
> the list. And any syndromes common to the selected indication (s) will 
> appear at the bottom of the tiddler.
>
> Every time I tick an indication, the possible indications and syndromes 
> become visible. That makes it easier to research and question. Until I only 
> have one or a few syndromes left.
>
> And I need a reset button.
>
> Basically it is like a kind of database / table where you filter 
> everything out of the data that has nothing to do with it.
>
> I am not good at coding and am looking for someone who can help me out.
>
> Thank you,
>

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[tw5] Re: [dot org] 1/9 Improve Community Communication with a - dot org

All subjects changed to common prefix - [dot org] ,
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[tw5] Re: Ideas for an UN-official community plugin library

Hi, 

I did start a (some) new threads. Start at:  Improve Community 
Communication with a - dot org 


have fun!
mario

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[tw5] [dot org 9/9] Request Access to Sub-Groups

Hi Folks,

For those who don't want to read - there is a List of videos

about

*Improve Community Communication proposal*

09 Request Access to Sub-Groups

Hi Folks

This is Pietsch Mario with the next video

about Community Communications

In this video I'll talk about, how you can become a member

Because this is the starting point.

So that you can be promoted up to a developer, maintainer of the different
elements .. the different groups

I do sign in as "lab-video", which is my standard user here

which already created a merge request.

If I have a look at groups, I'm not part of any group yet

That makes the navigation a little bit more complicated

I want to go to tiddlywiki dot org.

If I'm part of a group, then it will be much easier.

As you can see, here is a "Request Access" button.

Every group in this project, should have this "Request Access" button.

If I forgot it somewhere, please tell me.

If you request access to everything,

it's definitely a request, to be a developer or maintainer.

It will be "hard" - not hard - it will be harder,

because you will have to deal with everything.

May be, you are only interested in the "senatus", then you can request
access here

or ... or / and

you are also interested in the "docs"

you can request access here

That's basically it.

Now as an owner, I do get an e-mail notification

which tells me, that there is a new user, which wants to have access.

I log in as "admin". As admin I'm "only" part of this group

If I say: plus, I see everything. All my groups

There should be a request for "senatus"

members

As you can see, now the "lab-video" user says:

"User is requesting access to senatus"

I will grant it, as a Guest and say OK

That's the first thing.

He's a guest now. ok

Let's say, with the "docs".

members

Because I know this user, I will grant a little bit more

Let's say, this is a reporter.

and say OK

This is important!

You can have different roles with different groups.

If you request access to the "top level" group.

For the start you will be guest.

If you want to be a developer or even a maintainer,

of a part, then please request access to a sub-group.

Because it's much easier to make someone a maintainer of a sub-group,

then make someone a maintainer of the whole organisation.

We will have to play a little bit with these group access.

The main point is, that you can have, different roles for different groups.

If you want to have it easy, request access to the tiddlywiki.org group

and then you'll be guest.

After a while, if everything works out and you are more interested in
documentation

then you will be eg: a developer or even up to a maintainer, of one group.

The "admin" did it.

Now I go back to the user (lab-video)

As a user now, I can see, I'm part of tiddlywiki.org

and not a long list, because I'm guest at the "senatus"

I'm reporter with "docs"

I think this gives us a very nice and very clean overview about the
different possibilities.

Where is the permission?

**searching for a link**

There is an overview

cookies :/ OK

There is an overview about the permission system

There you can see, what every "default" role has.

For the beginning, because I also don't know, what everything is doing

We will start simple, so you start as a Guest

There is a "reporter", which has a little bit more rights,

for reporting, issue tracking, logging, managing labels, assign issues and
so on

There is the "developers" (role). .. more rights

Maintainers and the owner.

There is also maintainer and owner for groups

and

there should be somewhere, the "admin".

This is for the gitlab CI/CD permissions, there is an admin-role too.

The goal is, that we do have several maintainers for the different groups.

This will give us the possibility, that we really can push new versions of
the documentation,

without the need, that Jeremy has to view everything.

Because now, every group can act independently.

That's the main goal.

If you are here, I'm "lab-video" user now, then you can see, I can request
access

You can start simple, please start with the subgroups.

If you feel comfortable, with everything you may request access to the
whole organisation

We will see, how this goes on.

That's the basics

Have fun!

Next video will be TiddlyWiki as a Static Site Generator

See you!

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[tw5] [dot org 8/9] Consensus Seeking and Repo Structure

Hi Folks, 

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*Improve Community Communication proposal*

08 Consensus Seeking and Repo Structure

--

Hi Folks, This is Pietsch Mario

With the next video about the Community Communications and 

The Consensus Seeking Process

As you have seen in the other videos: New Governance Model 

we have the possibility, to write down, how the workflow should look like

So that users know, what they can expect. 

At the moment I did set everything to 100% consensus

so as long there is a discussion going on, a merge request can not be merged

Which is a little bit strict. 

Still it "may" work, if all the developers reach consensus, something can 
be merged 

But it should be a little bit easier and a little bit more structured 

We will have a closer look at gitlab - tiddlywiki.org project

which is a group and a namespace. 

I changed the user. I'm here "pmario" now, which has full access to 
everything 

The overall structure is like this:

There is a tiddlywiki.org group

Where different members can join. 

Basically everyone, which wants to be part of tiddlywiki.org 

can join, let's say, this level. 

There are different roles. We have a 

guest role, a reporter, developers, master and owner 

If you are there, then you can see the whole structure and 

create issues or feature requests or what ever ... 

depending on the level of rights that you have. 

Then we have different "sub-groups". For example:

1 of them is "documentation"

This is "TiddlyWiki Home and Documentation" 

It should contain German documentation NOT the translation

That's something different. 

I did translate content from tiddlywiki.com and made a German version 

There is a French version 

This should be the source for the static homepage. 

The source home directory contains this info, 

with the templates and everything. 

And there is the English documentation, which is, let's say, tiddlywiki.com 

The extended documentation, because Jeremy wants the "core" documentation 

the "reference" documentation, inside the core. 

The goal here is, that we find users, that want to contribute to the 
documentation. 

Some of those users may have write access, to the different repositories.

Because this "german" (link) is a repository. This then contains the real 
code. 

The "docs" is the group 

Everyone, which is part of the documentation group, 

may be is interested in different languages, 

because I would contribute to German and English 

I can not contribute to French 

There may be some Switzerland guys. 

They may be able to contribute to German, 

to the French version, to the Italian version and 

to the English version. 

That's why it's called "group documentation" 

There is an other group, which is called "editions" 

Which contains the different templates. 

At the moment this is the different editions from tiddlywiki

I definitely think, that those "editions" need a different "live cycle" 
then the core

That's why there is a different group, which can update the edtions in a 
much faster pace, than the core. 

Then there are the plugins. 

The standard plugins, which the community can maintain. 

There should be also the possibility for example: 

I want to have a new project, where I can say OK, I want to have a public 
project

I want to have my "wikilabs". 

wikilabs plugins, that they are part of the community 

Tobi Beer may have his own plugins ... and someone else may also want to 
have his plugins. 

The cool thing here is: With this structure - it's possible.

Because we can say: If you are part of the plugins group and 

we trust you enough, that you can merge something to master 

AND you have 2 or 3 up-votes from "key-developers" 

otherwise you can NOT merge to master, then this structure is possible. 

Plugins 

Then we have all the translations ... sorry ... THE translators editions. 

There is an edition with tiddlywiki, which you can download and it should 
be possible, to transfer the information, per mail, or something like this 

I wanted to have 1 group, which improves this "translators edition" 

There are the different "themes"

"themes" is the same thing, as with plugins 

There should be the possibility that the "themes - group", 

adds new projects to tiddlywiki.org. To the organisation

The different repositories are still completely independent. 

All the copyrights and so on. They all belong to the different authors, if 
they want. 

There is the "base" element, which is "the core". TiddlyWiki core 

which contains almost everything

The whole code, plus the languages

It needs a little bit longer ... 

ahh ... I didn't push it yet. 

Tiddlywiki core 

There is the "organisational structure", which I called "senatus" 

You can have a look at wikipedia, what it means

It contains the "committee". 

Since everything should be ope

[tw5] [dot org 7/9] Use merge request, to contribute to governance

Hi Folks,

For those who don't want to read - there is a List of videos

about

*Improve Community Communication proposal*

07 Use merge request, to contribute to governance

Hi Folks, Pietsch Mario back

with How can Users contribute to the Governance Model

This is the second part, which is a little bit more developer centric.

On the main page, I go to Community Info

With the Community Info, if I'm logged in, I don't have write access at the
moment.

This is tiddlywiki.org: Senatus: Committee: Details

Here I have the possibility to "fork the project"

It copies everything, to my video account.

I'm forking it to my repository, where I DO have write access

As you can see, I'm here now

Say "Profile". This is my lab-video profile.

I have my personal projects

There is the one, which is called "committee".

I can rename it to my likings. That's not a problem.

Let's say, I want to change something in the README file

I go to the webIDE, which opens a full "file tree"

I have the possibility to change several files at once or 1 by 1 per merge
request.

Let's start simple, just add 2 new-lines at the end.

Then you can see. It says "unstaged modifications".

This is a "permanent" save, so you don't need to take care, so that it's
not saved.

I could open a new one. You can see, there is a "tabbed view"

I could create 2 changes.

I also can say: create a "New file" or
create a "New directory" .. or what ever

There is 1 important point: Keep it simple!

If you want to change some typos, just go there and change 1 or 2 files.

Then it's easy to be merged.

If you change _all_ of them, there there will be a big discussion and it
will probably never be merged.

So go 1 by 1 and it will be easy.

I'll show you how.

There is the "review" button, which gives you the difference between the 2
elements.

This is the old one and this is the new one. There is the README

This is the "review stage"

Then there is the "commit" element

Here I can say. It makes sense, that readme is 1 merge request

and "guidelines" is a new one .. or

If you want, you can have them both, so "stage all"

I'll show you 1 by 1

This is now README

Then you say: "commit".

A commit message: I need 2 more new lines.

Which will probably be _not_ merged.

You can say: "Create a new branch". It gives you a default name

You can give it a different one, or just use this one.

You can create a new branch and then commit it. or

if we say: I want to have both (files).

Change everything, then I can say: Create a new branch and a "merge
request"

Otherwise it will be 2 steps.

I want everything, so "create a new branch" and directly create a new
"merge request"

Say: commit ... OK

Then it opens this page, where it says: "I need 2 more new lines"

It takes this as the title of the new "merge request"

Then ... some info about: why ... and so on.

So developers know, why you want to have this.

This is the "feature branch" and it should be merged into the "master
branch"

"Submit merge request".

Now we are back at tiddlywiki.org: senatus: and the Merge Request

So there is the new "merge request"

Now the developers from the "committee" can discuss the merge request

If everything is OK they get a button and can merge it.

2 ways to contribute

1st - User way: Create an issue and the developers will do the rest. or

If you want to save some time for the developers and you want to be sure ..
or

Let's say, the chance is higher that something is merged,

then directly crate a "merge request".

Why is the chance higher?

Simply because it is less work for the developers

That's it! OK

Now, we will use this "merge request" for Consensus Seeking in the next
video.

See you soon!

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[tw5] [dot org 6/9] Use Issues, to contribute to governance model

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06 Use Issues, to contribute to governance model

Hi Folks, Pietsch Mario here
with the next video about the Tiddlywik Communication

Consensus Seeking

As I recorded the last video, I saw, that there is one step missing.

Users may want to contribute to the Governance Model

We will have a short video, how can users contribute.

There are actually two. Let's say, a simple one for newbee users

and a more advanced one, if someone wants to try out the WebIDE and
directly contribute text

Which will be a little bit more in the direction of developers.

2 ways. User way and developer way

First we go to the main page and have the information about the community
info

There is the same thing. We have an issue overview and an issue list

If you are logged in, you can e-mail a new issue, to this project

if you click this link.

Or you can directly create a new issue.

I will create a new template here, so that you get little bit more of
information

**typing**

"new proposal for video" ... whatever

This is just a test and then "submit issue"

Users will see it. We have it in the list.

Then there can be a discussion, with the developers.

They may change the text directly.

That's the easiest one

As you can see, there is no real board yet

The configuration here is missing but it's the same as I showed you already

That's the first part. Create a new issue and you can contribute to this
information

or with e-mail

That's it for this video and the next one will be,

how you can fork the project, which is more developer related.

If you want to try it, have a look at the next video

If you think it's too complicated for you, then go with the issues

That's it. See you soon!

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[tw5] [dot org 5/9] Governance Model Proposal

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05 Governance Model Proposal

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Hi Folks, 

Pietsch Mario again, with the next video about 
Community Communications

The next topic is New Governace Model
A proposal, how it could look like

I did have a look at other open source projects
Most of them are big. They have a lot of overhead

I wanted to have something the is very sleek and
similar to what we have already. 

Starting here again from the proposed main page
there is a link which says: How to contribute

It's called Community Info. In the end all of this information should land 
somewhere here. 

But now for the beginning, we needs something to discuss.
There we have a repository, which I called

"commitee" .. Which contains the basic information

Most of the text I copied over from WebOS, the open source edition. 

Because they started a very new project. They start to build up their 
community. 

They have a very open and very sleek governance model. 

Here is "contributing". A lot of this text is copied over. 
That's not a problem, because it is Creative Commons

I borrowed a lot this text and modified it, to work with TiddlyWiki. To get 
a little bit of a head-start

The first element is the README. 

What's very important here is: Everything is WorkInProgress and it's made 
to be discussed.

There is some description about: How can someone join the community

If you are really a new user, you may want to have a new feature

So we have the feature request, which we discussed already, with the 
feature request board. 

New users can get a fast overview 

New users can check out the different repositories and may open 
requirements. 

There is some information about requirements. 

There is a link to the different repositories, which I will discuss in 
detail.

This is interesting for developers

Then there is "Discuss your ideas". The idea discussion is part of the 
feature request section

Which goes back to the "Feature Request" 

That's the way, how everything is linked together. 

Then there is the important stuff of this part. 

Which is called the: Governance Model which defines some basic rules. 

As I said, it should be as simple as possible. 

At the moment everything in the different repositories can not be merged, 
if there is a discussion "pending"

So at the moment, it's a "100% consensus model" for the developers. 

Which is not very practical but for the beginning I set it as default. 

There is a little bit about the organisation. 

How tiddlywiki dot org. I used tiddlywiki dot org. I hope we can add it 
there. 

It uses the BSD 3 lizense, which is part of TiddlyWiki. This is the code 

and we use the Creative Commons 3 license for our documentation. 

Also "this" documentation should work with this license. 

Then there is the Communication Process with the different forums, which 
will be an other video. 

The Forums

There is the Feature Request forum 
There is chat, which we proposed already. It's Gitter

If I open it. It's a 3rd party "library", but we already have some 
communications going on here. 

With the "TiddlyWiki public" chat. This is also a request, that came very 
often

I personally would like to have a voice chat. So having a "text chat" and a 
"voice chat" for me, it would be nice. 

So I did create a discord account and did set-up a discord server. 

We also have the TiddlyWik discussion group, that's already known. 

That's the different forums. 

Then there is a little bit of information about how we accept 
contributions. 

This is let's say the very basics. There is a "step by step" information. 

It also covers the Contributor License Agreement. 

It covers the review process

Consensus seeking, and so on ... 

This is definitely part for improvement and discussion. 

Nothing here is carved in stone but we need a starting point, to start the 
discussions. 

How We Accept Contributions

There is a little bit about the Community Guidelines, which I also wanted 
to have very very simple. 

There are big open source projects. 

They have pages and pages of information how you should NOT behave, which 
is not interesting for me

I would like to have some information, how you SHOULD behave. 

Keep it as simple as possible. 

There is definitely some room for improvement but 
as a starting point I think it works. 

That's the basic information 

You should take your time and from the proposed landing page. There will be 
a link, which will lead you there. 

Then you can have a look at the different elements. 

As I said at the moment I'm using this repository which is called 
"commitee" 

There is a new structure, which is called tiddlywiki dot org 

Then I called it "senatus". Go to Wikipedia, to see, what it means, then 
there is the "commitee"

This is the reposito

[tw5] [dot org 4/9] Using e-mail to request a new feature

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04 Using e-mail to request a new feature

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Hi Folks,
Pietsch Mario again,

with the next video about the

Community Communication and the Feature Request e-mail workflow

On the homepage I showed you, there are 2 links

The Feature Request List and the Feature Request Board

I go to feature request list. Here I have the possibility to view
everything.

If I'm logged in, I get a new link (at the bottom) here which is called:
"e-mail here new issue with this project"

The advantage here is, that it creates a unique e-mail address

that is only available for this user.

We can nicely identify it and we don't get any spam!

There is a possibility to have a "global" e-mail address

If you are the user, who want's to manage this, and if you want to deal
with the spam, you are free to do so.

I propose the private e-mail address.

I copy it

Open my mailbox for this user

Post a new subject The subject title is the title of the feature request

I want to have a wow feature for TW

Then I need an actionable description The easiest way to go there is:

If you start with

"As a user, I would like to have" or
"As a developer, ... " and so on ...

Then you describe the different elements
what it needs

That's basically it.
I'll send it

Message was sent. OK
I do a page refresh

I already created one, so I'll close this one

Here it is. There is the "WOW" feature
which gives us: As a user I'd like to have ...

and then the different steps.

This creates, what we call an actionable feature request

So a developer, may be able to create something

If I'm a developer, I go to the "board"
I have a look at the "backlog"

There is the wow feature and you can say: OK
**laugh**

OK This user doesn't have the rights.
So if I would be a developer, I could move it here.

With this user I actually cant.

I think you get it. With this feature it is as easy as using
an e-mail address to create new feature proposals.

With the default notification mechanism,
you'll get a summary once per day, I think or

if someone mentions you, you'll get a new e-mail
or if someone responds to your feature request.

That's basically it, about a possible workflow with
e-mails. ...

There is room for improvements. We are open for contributions!

The nest one will be, some more information about
the New Governance Model

If community members have the right, to merge content
and publish content, to the official page

we have to setup some rules!

That's a discussion about it.

See you soon!

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[tw5] [dot org 3/9] Feature Requests and Voting Mechanism

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Hi Folks,
this is Pietsch Mario again with the next video about 

Community Communications and how a Feature Request would look like

As I showed you in the last video there is the TiddlyWiki main page 
proposal or

Landing Page proposal and here's something which is called Feature Request

I'm using these elements and there are two links which at the moment

point to the platform which is called GitLab yeah but if there are enough

let's say a community developers we could create our own UI if we want

At the moment we are using what's there and which is finished and

well integrated into a developer's workflow 

so yeah I go to the feature request board

there is an overview about let's say

different possibilities like plug-in territory

or let's say tags

and under consideration

help wanted and doing so

if a developer decides to implement a new feature then it can land here so

this is like Kanban board and there we have different overview. The second 
link

is the Feature Request List which looks like this so we have everything in

list form and we can sort by weight which is assigned by the developers or

by popularity which is the up-votes

for example and test image I go there and if

I want to up-vote I can't because I need to sign in okay so you can 
register a

new account so you can use your Twitter account or your Google account or 
you

can sign in whith GitHub I personally would suggest if you already have a

GitHub account use this one and try to create the same name that you have 
with

github that this would be lets say an easy way for the developers to 
identify

the different users

okay I did create a new account and I sign in with this one

I call it lab-video

okay so I'm back and now I have the possibility

Luca created Luca also upvoted this test issue so I can upload

it to and now if we have an overview

we can see it sorted by popularity so now

the two up-votes are there and this gives us a very nice way or let's say 
the

developers a very nice way to see what's really requested by different 
users or

by the community at the moment with github we have about I had a look some

time ago we have about 400 to 450 open issues which are feature requests and

most of them are not actionable so here we would have let's say a very good 
way

and also they have possibility

ah let's say to upload these features okay maybe I said at the moment I'm

proposing this workflow but if we have enough developers for the homepage we

could make our own UI would be possible okay

yeah that's it for the feature requests different possibilities that we 
have and

the see you with the next video

where I talk about feature requests with emails see

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[tw5] [dot org 2/9] Community TW .org Landing page - proposal

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01 Improve Community Communication - Intro02 TiddlyWiki Landingpage -
proposal03 Feature Request and Voting Mechanism04 Using e-mail to request a
new feature05 Governance Model Proposal06 Use Issues, to contribute to
governance model07 Use merge request, to contribute to governance08
Consensus Seeking and Repo Structure09 Request Access to Sub-Groups

Transcription of video #2
---

Hi Folks, This is Pietsch Mario again with the second video about How can
we improve the community communication.

The first thing should be a proof of concept how a new tiddlywiki.org page
could look like.

This is a proof of concept, which is the main page. The landing page is
manually created.

But there is also some automatically created stuff which uses TiddlyWiki

and the TiddlyWiki build process to create a static web-page.

How does it look like. At the top left, there is a link that goes back to
page.

There is a little bit of a menu and

there is the main area, which talks a little bit about the project

then there is a GettingStarted button which does nothing at the moment. It
just jumps to the page

Then there is an area which talks a little bit about TiddlyWiki features.

I'm using them to also show the workflow afterwards, how to create feature
requests

and there is some information about the different pages. Or let's say:
different languages.

Language documentations. This page is already automatically created

I made a prototype some time ago already.

Where all the content are different tiddlers and the layout is a template.

And TiddlyWiki can create a static page with the different tiddler
contents.

It looks like this

Relatively simple, but as a starting point it should give you an overview,
how I think it can look like.

Then there is some "Call to Action" at the moment which does nothing.

What did I used to create the static page. The project is called
purecss.io.

It's a very basic CSS framework which has absolutely no javascript
involved.

That's something I wanted to have.

There are different layout types.

There is the landing page

There is a prototype for a photo gallery, which we can use

There is something that looks like a blog

That one I used to display the different languages.

It can even be used to create something like an e-mail layout

If we would like to create our own e-mail client.

A pricing table and so on

There is also one important thing. The whole element is responsive

So if we use let's say: mobile phones
then it works

out of the box. So we go to the language pages ... and so on

Everything is mobile friendly.

Yea, that's the first part
How a landing page can look like

And I think before I go on
I switch of the video recording so I have shorter videos

So the next one will be Feature Requests

See you soon.

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[tw5] [dot org 1/9] Improve Community Communication with a - dot org

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*Improve Community Communication proposal*

01 Improve Community Communication - Intro02 TiddlyWiki Landingpage - 
proposal03 Feature Request and Voting Mechanism04 Using e-mail to request a 
new feature05 Governance Model Proposal06 Use Issues, to contribute to 
governance model07 Use merge request, to contribute to governance08 
Consensus Seeking and Repo Structure09 Request Access to Sub-Groups

=== LONG POST WARNING for those who don't want to watch videos. 
===

The following posts are based on the transcription of a video series I did 
some time ago. 
I didn't promote it, since I thought, the time wasn't right. 

Is it right now?!

==

This is the *initial post *about: How can we improve the Community 
Contribution, in the way, that the community contribution is independent 
from the TiddlyWiki release cycle. 

In February 2018 there has been a hangout where Jeremy created a new issue: 
Introducing Continuous Integration (CI)

CI is a process where developers can push something to the main repository. 

Then robots take over, "compile" the stuff and "release" the stuff

If we can do this automatically, we can remove a lot of manual work for 
Jeremy.

If we have a described procedure, how something should work or should be 
distributed, different users can say: "Create the release" or 
something like this. 

Everything should, always, be done in the same way. 

---

A new developer joined the community: Luca

He did create an issue, which says: "Things that scare off potential 
contributors"

In this case the original post is about developers. 
See: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/3313 and
video 
https://youtu.be/497hRzpRHuI?list=PLuiC_HFhI4OyUiDGqvzB64mTQTURABjlW&t=79

As you can see, it's a quite long discussion

It immediately became a discussion about: "documentation or user feedback"

That's why Luca splited it into 3 issues

One which says:
"How can we improve user feedback"
see: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/3319

It should not involve: compilation stuff and all these things

In my personal opinion It should be as easy as sending an e-mail

There is a 3rd post, which says:
"..contribute to the TiddlyWiki documentation"
see: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/3318

Where a mechanism is involved how to push something to the main repository. 

Since February I was constantly searching for a workflow that I want to 
have. 

There was also a little discussion about: the community governance   
see: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/tree/master/licenses

At the moment everything is "governed" or let's say: contributions are 
protected 
by Jeremy's review cycle

But if the community has the possibility to independently push something 
 
We need some rules. They should be as simple as possible. So that everyone 
can easily follow them

But there should also be a possibility that we really can USE THEM in a way 
that is good for TiddlyWiki 

This is the main reason for this video series

At the moment I'm planning to release 5 videos. With this one 6 (9 at the 
end ;)
see: https://tiddlywiki.org.gitlab.io/videos/gitlab-talk.html

The first thing I want to discuss is:

A Landing Page: See video #2

All of this is a proof of concept. So it's not carved in stone

Everything is meant to be discussed and can be changed

There are some ideas I would like to have a new landing page and show how 
it should look like

Then some information about Feature Requests: see: Video #3

How feature requests should look like. Let's say the easiest way to give 
feedback
for new users 

And the possibility, for example: to create an 
e-mail workflow for new feature request. 
see: video #4

There is a suggestion about a 
 - New Governance Model. See: video #5

 - How Consensus Seeking should be executed: video #8

 - There should be some rules, how someone can become a member with merging 
rights: video #6

In this case, how can we create a workflow

That the community can really publish independently from the TiddlyWik 
workflow 

Then there is some information about

 - TiddlyWiki as a Static Site Generator: video #2 

We have a very very powerful tool which allows us to create sing pages, 
static pages

There is some information about 
 - GitLab ToDo Lists: video #3
 - or the Web IDE = (Integrated Development Environment)

As I said: Everything is a proof of concept: at the moment I'm using GitLab

Because it gives us the best possibilities, for the proposed workflow.

Then as you can see it goes deeper and deeper into development area

So there is a Developers Workflow

 - How we can create: Merge Request

 - How Continuous Integration and Continuous Deployment can be done

There is a lot of work involved. I want to show you how the workflow

Re: [tw5] Editing transcluded tiddlers in-place

2020-08-16 Thread clutterstack

@Atronoush

Thanks for taking the time to test. I have made an effort to address your 
comments below in an update to the plugin.

Minor comments:
>  - On single click the transcluded tiddler content, it goes to edit mode 
> and I may want to select text and NOT open the editor!
>

You're right, I can't select text either. I thought drag-to-select-text was 
working, but apparently that's not how the listeners are stacked. That is a 
major problem. "Luckily," there is also the problem that if two "riders" 
are nested, one click on the text can open both editors, so I think it's 
clear that the separate button is better here. I have now made that change 
in the plugin.

Aside: I know this is an old and recurring issue. Not sure why I thought it 
wasn't happening here.

I like the idea of clicking the text to edit, especially if there will be a 
lot of editing, but for isolated transcluded tiddlers, perhaps it's not 
that arduous to click a button. For the Omni plugin, perhaps I'll go with a 
double-click.
 

> - Let the background and border can be set on demand
>

 I haven't added plugin settings, but I have tweaked my own CSS to be more 
amenable to customisation, and I've added a demonstration of how to 
customise the output using a stylesheet tiddler.

The demo link has moved to 
https://clutterstack.github.io/can-tw/rider-plugin

Cheers,
Chris

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[tw5] Re: Ideas for an UN-official community plugin library

amreus wrote:
>
> I disagree.  Conflicts are 100% in the realm of library managers and must 
> be considered.
>

OK, maybe you're right after all.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Ideas for an UN-official community plugin library

On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 11:10:14 PM UTC+2, amreus wrote:
>
> Is there a need for namespacing for plugins?  
>

Yes. Otherwise you will create conflicts. There is a reason, why plugins 
have a namespace. 

-mario

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[tw5] Re: Ideas for an UN-official community plugin library

2020-08-16 Thread amreus

I disagree.  Conflicts are 100% in the realm of library managers and must 
be considered.

On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 5:15:04 PM UTC-4 Mat wrote:

> @amreus - while the conversation has admittedly gone off on a tangent, 
> your question is definitely off topic. Pleaes start a new thread instead.
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Ideas for an UN-official community plugin library

@amreus - while the conversation has admittedly gone off on a tangent, your 
question is definitely off topic. Pleaes start a new thread instead.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Ideas for an UN-official community plugin library

2020-08-16 Thread amreus

Is there a need for namespacing for plugins?  

For example, if 2 plugins both define a css class with the same name, which 
gets used?  Or if 2 plugins define a macro with the same name, what 
happens?  Does the last loaded macro take precedence?

If this is an issue it would it need to be addressed sooner rather than 
later?


On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 1:54:18 PM UTC-4 PMario wrote:

> On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 6:00:47 PM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> I might point out that Linux operates this way.
>>
>> When you install Linux, almost any variety, you also get a package 
>> manager. With the package manager you have access to 1000s of different 
>> software products. You just search, select, and install the software that 
>> you want without having to search the web, download, find dependencies, 
>> etc. The versions you get may not be the latest versions, but that's 
>> usually OK. If people need the latest, then they go to the original source.
>>
>
> I think we can't compare "apt" or other installation managers with a 
> public overview of TW plugins. We don't have any security measures built 
> in. None of our packages can be validated. ... So everyone can clone and 
> modify a plugin and republish a potentially evel version with the same 
> name. .. At the moment our users don't have a possibility to validate 
> anything. 
>
> That's an other element, which I think about for quite some time. ... At 
> the moment our system is "kind of" OK, because we can trust the community 
> members, that create plugins. ... But if TW grows considerably, we will 
> need to think about some more security too. 
>
> With the proposed system, it would be possible to implement a "community 
> review" system. Similar to video 8. 
>
> A second measure could be, that we publish a plugin hash overview on the 
> community page. So everyone can check if an installed plugin has the same 
> hash as the one installed in a wiki. The hash validation could be done with 
> a browser plugin. ... But that's probably a completely different thread, 
> which would need contribution from security experts. 
>
> just some thoughts
> -mario
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Simple Wikitext Syntax Highlighting

On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 9:02:37 PM UTC+2, Adithya B wrote:
>
> [...] change the format to x-tiddlywiki but there seem to be a big bug 
> (where the formatting breaks when urls have //)


Yea, that's a bug. ... The "workaround fix is" put a // at the end of the 
line, which will end "italic" formatting.
 

>
> I would happily give some time to work on it if you can help me understand 
> this code:  
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/tree/master/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror-mode-x-tiddlywiki
> Its obfuscated and minimized :/
>

You'd need to work with the source code. 
https://github.com/codemirror/CodeMirror/blob/master/mode/tiddlywiki/tiddlywiki.js
You'll need to understand the internal working of cm-mode code. .. see: 
https://codemirror.net/doc/manual.html#modeapi
 

>
> I would love it it if this plugin
> 1) Works with TW5 Wikitext by default (without needing the content-type to 
> be changed)
>

That should be a relatively easy fix.
 

> 2) highlights the headlines (!)
> 3) colours everything within [[ ]], {{}} and << >>
>

4) Makes hyperlinks work
>

I don't  understand this one. May be // as mentioned above. 

-mario


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[tw5] Re: Hosting NodeJs version of site (not stripped down)

2020-08-16 Thread JWHoneycutt

Mark, I suspect you are right (haven't tried it) 

My solution was to switch the default shell on my MacOS to `bash`, and it 
the command renders "tids" fine

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[tw5] Re: Simple Wikitext Syntax Highlighting

2020-08-16 Thread Adithya B

Hi Mario.
I tried that before posting here. It works when I visit the codemirror demo 
(https://tiddlywiki.com/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/) , and change the 
format to x-tiddlywiki but there seem to be a big bug (where the formatting 
breaks when urls have //)

I would happily give some time to work on it if you can help me understand 
this code:  
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/tree/master/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror-mode-x-tiddlywiki
Its obfuscated and minimized :/

I would love it it if this plugin
1) Works with TW5 Wikitext by default (without needing the content-type to 
be changed)
2) highlights the headlines (!)
3) colours everything within [[ ]], {{}} and << >>
4) Makes hyperlinks work


On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 11:34:12 PM UTC+5:30 PMario wrote:

> Hi,
>
> There is one, that may work for TWclassic wikitext. .. I did create it for 
> TWclassic CM plugin. ... But I didn't test it for TW5 yet. 
>
> It donsn't know anything about widgets and widget parameters and so on. 
>
> see: https://codemirror.net/mode/tiddlywiki/index.html
>
> would this be enough?
>
> -mario
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Problem adding file to TiddlyDesktop

You can't get the executable from the Chrome store.

Timimi has two components:

1. The extension that runs in your browser (Chrome store).
2. An executable that is installed on your computer (github)


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Re: [tw5] Re: Problem adding file to TiddlyDesktop

2020-08-16 Thread Birthe C

Dave,

I have also had some problems installing on Chromium, but then Riz updated 
the file we have to download from Github. I works everytime. You NEED to 
download it. you need to run it and chose the browser you will use it for. 
It works in combination with the extension you installed in your browser. 
Also in chromium, you need to select local folder. When I install the 
plugin imediately the nice tiddlywiki explaining how to is openedit is 
of great help.

When you have succeeded doing this, it works in chrome/chromium just like 
in Firefox.

My only problem now is that I often use an old netbook (only 32 bit)...but 
they af gradually totally fased out also.

I totally agreed with Mark about Tiddlydesktop, the former version worked 
very well but quite some surprised when using the latest. Not that I am 
using Tiddlydesktop much.


Birthe

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[tw5] Re: Hosting NodeJs version of site (not stripped down)

Not that I know anything about Macs.

But "!" is a special character on some terminals, so it's possible the 
shell is interpreting [!is... as a command. Possibly try putting the filter 
in quotes:

"[!is[system]]"

and see if you at least get a different error ;-)




On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 10:09:53 AM UTC-7, JWHoneycutt wrote:
>
> I am trying to learn how to generate web pages from my TW5 file, using 
> MacOS Catalina and TW5 version 5.1.22
> I am following the instructions graciously provided here: 
> https://www.didaxy.com/exporting-static-sites-from-tiddlywiki
>
> Running the Tiddlywiki server -  Done, I called my directory "TW5_server"
> Creating Some Content -  Done
> Exporting static pages -  Problem encountered:
>
> TW5_server % tiddlywiki --rendertiddlers [!is[system]] 
> $:/core/templates/static.tiddler.html static text/plain
> zsh: event not found: is[system]]
>
> Apparently ZSH is the default shell on MacOS Catalina. I do not know if I 
> have messed up my ZSH shell configuration. I think I want to find it, 
> delete it, and reload a clean shell so I can get past the error above - 
> right? 
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Problem adding file to TiddlyDesktop

I didn't get it from Github. I have 2.1.3 directly from the Chrome web
store.

On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 1:20 PM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> But did you download and run:
>
> timimi-2-1-1-Windows-Chrome-Chromium-Opera.exe
>
>
>
>
> 
> which is different than
>
> timimi-2-1-1-Windows-Firefox.exe
>
>
>
> 
>
> which you probably ran when you set up for firefox ??
>
>
> On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 11:01:32 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mark
>>
>> Yes, I am using the Timimi extension for Chrome. Actual behavior now, on
>> a local, standalone file:
>>
>> 1. When I edit and close editing for a tiddler, the save button goes red
>> but no 'saved' message appears.
>> 2. When I press the save button, the 'saved wiki' alert appears at top
>> right, and a dialogue box appears asking me where I want to save the wiki
>> to. No 'downloaded file' boxes appear at the bottom of the screen as they
>> did this morning. Not sure why.
>>
>> Desired behavior: When I edit and close editing for a tiddler, the 'saved
>> wiki' alert appears, and the change is applied to the actual file, without
>> creating duplicate files.
>>
>> On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 10:55:04 AM UTC-5 Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>> With Timimi there is a separate exe download that you need to run for
>>> your Chrome or Chromium. It's different from the one you ran for Firefox.
>>>
>>> The rule in marketing is that you always want your product to be unique
>>> or special.
>>>
>>> Once FF removed extensions, it removed most of what made it special.
>>> There's no real reason not to try something else. Per a suggestion here,
>>> I've been trying Chromium.
>>>
>>> Re Tiddlydesktop, I'm guessing you landed on the wrong target. Instead
>>> of dragging and dropping, try the "Add file" button.
>>>
>>> Also, if you still have trouble, consider using TD v13. I feel there
>>> have been more errors reported with v14, and it doesn't offer that much
>>> more than v13.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 6:37:43 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:

 Hi Tony

 1) Regarding Firefox dying:
 https://www.zdnet.com/article/an-endangered-internet-species-firefox/

 2) I am using Timimi on Firefox and it is working great.

 3) Maybe I just need help configuring Timimi on Chrome? I added the
 Timimi extension to Chrome, but it still saves the "Chrome" way - saving a
 duplicate of the file for every save, but the changes do not get saved in
 the original file. So if I have it bookmarked, the bookmark will open a
 file without the changes. So it looks like I would have to go into the
 folder every day and delete the duplicates and rename the last duplicate
 with the original filename. I don't want to do that.

 4) You didn't reply to my main question, about TiddlyDesktop... :-)

 On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 8:02:47 AM UTC-5 TW Tones wrote:

> David
>
> I don't understand your first sentence. If you do not want a server
> version timimi makes tiddlywiki easier and more reliable than any time in
> its history, on chrome and firefox, and how is Firefox diminished in any
> way?
>
> Regards
> Tony
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[tw5] Re: Problem adding file to TiddlyDesktop

But did you download and run:

timimi-2-1-1-Windows-Chrome-Chromium-Opera.exe




which is different than 

timimi-2-1-1-Windows-Firefox.exe




which you probably ran when you set up for firefox ??


On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 11:01:32 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi Mark
>
> Yes, I am using the Timimi extension for Chrome. Actual behavior now, on a 
> local, standalone file:
>
> 1. When I edit and close editing for a tiddler, the save button goes red 
> but no 'saved' message appears.
> 2. When I press the save button, the 'saved wiki' alert appears at top 
> right, and a dialogue box appears asking me where I want to save the wiki 
> to. No 'downloaded file' boxes appear at the bottom of the screen as they 
> did this morning. Not sure why.
>
> Desired behavior: When I edit and close editing for a tiddler, the 'saved 
> wiki' alert appears, and the change is applied to the actual file, without 
> creating duplicate files.
>
> On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 10:55:04 AM UTC-5 Mark S. wrote:
>
>> With Timimi there is a separate exe download that you need to run for 
>> your Chrome or Chromium. It's different from the one you ran for Firefox.
>>
>> The rule in marketing is that you always want your product to be unique 
>> or special.
>>
>> Once FF removed extensions, it removed most of what made it special. 
>> There's no real reason not to try something else. Per a suggestion here, 
>> I've been trying Chromium.
>>
>> Re Tiddlydesktop, I'm guessing you landed on the wrong target. Instead of 
>> dragging and dropping, try the "Add file" button.  
>>
>> Also, if you still have trouble, consider using TD v13. I feel there have 
>> been more errors reported with v14, and it doesn't offer that much more 
>> than v13.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 6:37:43 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Tony
>>>
>>> 1) Regarding Firefox dying: 
>>> https://www.zdnet.com/article/an-endangered-internet-species-firefox/
>>>
>>> 2) I am using Timimi on Firefox and it is working great.
>>>
>>> 3) Maybe I just need help configuring Timimi on Chrome? I added the 
>>> Timimi extension to Chrome, but it still saves the "Chrome" way - saving a 
>>> duplicate of the file for every save, but the changes do not get saved in 
>>> the original file. So if I have it bookmarked, the bookmark will open a 
>>> file without the changes. So it looks like I would have to go into the 
>>> folder every day and delete the duplicates and rename the last duplicate 
>>> with the original filename. I don't want to do that.
>>>
>>> 4) You didn't reply to my main question, about TiddlyDesktop... :-)
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 8:02:47 AM UTC-5 TW Tones wrote:
>>>
 David

 I don't understand your first sentence. If you do not want a server 
 version timimi makes tiddlywiki easier and more reliable than any time in 
 its history, on chrome and firefox, and how is Firefox diminished in any 
 way?

 Regards
 Tony



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[tw5] Re: How to add video to tiddler

Ok thanks this seems to work so if im following your getting the URI of the 
file and then using that in the video html so i needed to find the URI in 
order to use the video tag as my problem?

On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 3:05:08 PM UTC-3, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 10:36:40 AM UTC-7, Man GuyDude wrote:
>>
>> what about things like autoplaying and loopin
>>
>
> OK... this works:
> <$wikify name=URI text=<>>
>  src=<>>
> 
> 
>
> You can omit any of the "controls", "autoplay", or "loop" attributes.
> Of course, if you omit *both* "controls" and "autoplay", then there's no 
> way to start the video.
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>

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[tw5] Re: How to add video to tiddler

2020-08-16 Thread Eric Shulman

On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 10:36:40 AM UTC-7, Man GuyDude wrote:
>
> what about things like autoplaying and loopin
>

OK... this works:
<$wikify name=URI text=<>>
>>



You can omit any of the "controls", "autoplay", or "loop" attributes.
Of course, if you omit *both* "controls" and "autoplay", then there's no 
way to start the video.

enjoy,
-e

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[tw5] Re: Simple Wikitext Syntax Highlighting

Hi,

There is one, that may work for TWclassic wikitext. .. I did create it for 
TWclassic CM plugin. ... But I didn't test it for TW5 yet. 

It donsn't know anything about widgets and widget parameters and so on. 

see: https://codemirror.net/mode/tiddlywiki/index.html

would this be enough?

-mario

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[tw5] Re: Problem adding file to TiddlyDesktop

Hi Mark

Yes, I am using the Timimi extension for Chrome. Actual behavior now, on a 
local, standalone file:

1. When I edit and close editing for a tiddler, the save button goes red 
but no 'saved' message appears.
2. When I press the save button, the 'saved wiki' alert appears at top 
right, and a dialogue box appears asking me where I want to save the wiki 
to. No 'downloaded file' boxes appear at the bottom of the screen as they 
did this morning. Not sure why.

Desired behavior: When I edit and close editing for a tiddler, the 'saved 
wiki' alert appears, and the change is applied to the actual file, without 
creating duplicate files.

On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 10:55:04 AM UTC-5 Mark S. wrote:

> With Timimi there is a separate exe download that you need to run for your 
> Chrome or Chromium. It's different from the one you ran for Firefox.
>
> The rule in marketing is that you always want your product to be unique or 
> special.
>
> Once FF removed extensions, it removed most of what made it special. 
> There's no real reason not to try something else. Per a suggestion here, 
> I've been trying Chromium.
>
> Re Tiddlydesktop, I'm guessing you landed on the wrong target. Instead of 
> dragging and dropping, try the "Add file" button.  
>
> Also, if you still have trouble, consider using TD v13. I feel there have 
> been more errors reported with v14, and it doesn't offer that much more 
> than v13.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 6:37:43 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tony
>>
>> 1) Regarding Firefox dying: 
>> https://www.zdnet.com/article/an-endangered-internet-species-firefox/
>>
>> 2) I am using Timimi on Firefox and it is working great.
>>
>> 3) Maybe I just need help configuring Timimi on Chrome? I added the 
>> Timimi extension to Chrome, but it still saves the "Chrome" way - saving a 
>> duplicate of the file for every save, but the changes do not get saved in 
>> the original file. So if I have it bookmarked, the bookmark will open a 
>> file without the changes. So it looks like I would have to go into the 
>> folder every day and delete the duplicates and rename the last duplicate 
>> with the original filename. I don't want to do that.
>>
>> 4) You didn't reply to my main question, about TiddlyDesktop... :-)
>>
>> On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 8:02:47 AM UTC-5 TW Tones wrote:
>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> I don't understand your first sentence. If you do not want a server 
>>> version timimi makes tiddlywiki easier and more reliable than any time in 
>>> its history, on chrome and firefox, and how is Firefox diminished in any 
>>> way?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Ideas for an UN-official community plugin library

On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 6:00:47 PM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I might point out that Linux operates this way.
>
> When you install Linux, almost any variety, you also get a package 
> manager. With the package manager you have access to 1000s of different 
> software products. You just search, select, and install the software that 
> you want without having to search the web, download, find dependencies, 
> etc. The versions you get may not be the latest versions, but that's 
> usually OK. If people need the latest, then they go to the original source.
>

I think we can't compare "apt" or other installation managers with a public 
overview of TW plugins. We don't have any security measures built in. None 
of our packages can be validated. ... So everyone can clone and modify a 
plugin and republish a potentially evel version with the same name. .. At 
the moment our users don't have a possibility to validate anything. 

That's an other element, which I think about for quite some time. ... At 
the moment our system is "kind of" OK, because we can trust the community 
members, that create plugins. ... But if TW grows considerably, we will 
need to think about some more security too. 

With the proposed system, it would be possible to implement a "community 
review" system. Similar to video 8. 

A second measure could be, that we publish a plugin hash overview on the 
community page. So everyone can check if an installed plugin has the same 
hash as the one installed in a wiki. The hash validation could be done with 
a browser plugin. ... But that's probably a completely different thread, 
which would need contribution from security experts. 

just some thoughts
-mario

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[tw5] Re: Issue with Quine 2 - HELP

2020-08-16 Thread IvanPsy

UPDATE...

I downloaded the wiki on my PC, then uploaded again on iCloud (on another 
folder): I’m still not able to open the wiki on Quine 2.

I downloaded the wiki on my PC, added a new tiddler, then uploaded again on 
iCloud (on another folder): now I’m able to open the wiki Quine 2.

Il giorno domenica 16 agosto 2020 alle 11:34:27 UTC+2 IvanPsy ha scritto:

> It worked until some minutes ago.
>
> Now I added a new tiddler, saved it, closed the App.
> Then I opened up the App again, loaded the HTML file, but I get only a 
> blank screen.
>
> I uninstalled and downloaded the App again, but the issue persists.
>
> Quine 2, the iPhone and the iPad are all updated to the last version.
>
> Any idea to fix it?
>
> Thank you!
>

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[tw5] Re: How to add video to tiddler

also is there no way to use the video html tag with a internal tiddler?

On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 2:32:12 PM UTC-3, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 10:02:03 AM UTC-7, Man GuyDude wrote:
>>
>> how can you take a video you imported and use it in the video html
>>  
>>   
>>   Your browser does not support the video tag.
>>  
>> all i have is that and the video doesnt load but if i use a web link it 
>> does
>>
>
> TiddlyWiki actually handles video/webm as a tiddler content type! So, 
> instead of using the  HTML tag, try this:
>
> 1) Import a webm file into your TW.  This will create a tiddler containing 
> binary data encoded into base-64, with type="video/webm"
> 2) If you view that tiddler, you will automatically get a  element 
> that is sized to fit the tiddler.
> 3) Use the  control to play the video.
> 4) To embed the video in another tiddler and scale it to fit a specific 
> size, you can use transclusion, like this:
> 
> {{NameOfVideoTiddler.webm}}
> 
>
> Note: if you omit the height:... attribute, the video will automatically 
> scale in proportion to the width.
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>

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[tw5] Re: How to add video to tiddler

what about things like autoplaying and loopin

On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 2:32:12 PM UTC-3, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 10:02:03 AM UTC-7, Man GuyDude wrote:
>>
>> how can you take a video you imported and use it in the video html
>>  
>>   
>>   Your browser does not support the video tag.
>>  
>> all i have is that and the video doesnt load but if i use a web link it 
>> does
>>
>
> TiddlyWiki actually handles video/webm as a tiddler content type! So, 
> instead of using the  HTML tag, try this:
>
> 1) Import a webm file into your TW.  This will create a tiddler containing 
> binary data encoded into base-64, with type="video/webm"
> 2) If you view that tiddler, you will automatically get a  element 
> that is sized to fit the tiddler.
> 3) Use the  control to play the video.
> 4) To embed the video in another tiddler and scale it to fit a specific 
> size, you can use transclusion, like this:
> 
> {{NameOfVideoTiddler.webm}}
> 
>
> Note: if you omit the height:... attribute, the video will automatically 
> scale in proportion to the width.
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>

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[tw5] Re: How to add video to tiddler

2020-08-16 Thread Eric Shulman

On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 10:02:03 AM UTC-7, Man GuyDude wrote:
>
> how can you take a video you imported and use it in the video html
>  
>   
>   Your browser does not support the video tag.
>  
> all i have is that and the video doesnt load but if i use a web link it 
> does
>

TiddlyWiki actually handles video/webm as a tiddler content type! So, 
instead of using the  HTML tag, try this:

1) Import a webm file into your TW.  This will create a tiddler containing 
binary data encoded into base-64, with type="video/webm"
2) If you view that tiddler, you will automatically get a  element 
that is sized to fit the tiddler.
3) Use the  control to play the video.
4) To embed the video in another tiddler and scale it to fit a specific 
size, you can use transclusion, like this:

{{NameOfVideoTiddler.webm}}

Note: if you omit the height:... attribute, the video will automatically 
scale in proportion to the width.

enjoy,
-e

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[tw5] Re: Hosting NodeJs version of site (not stripped down)

2020-08-16 Thread JWHoneycutt

I am trying to learn how to generate web pages from my TW5 file, using 
MacOS Catalina and TW5 version 5.1.22
I am following the instructions graciously provided here: 
https://www.didaxy.com/exporting-static-sites-from-tiddlywiki

Running the Tiddlywiki server -  Done, I called my directory "TW5_server"
Creating Some Content -  Done
Exporting static pages -  Problem encountered:

TW5_server % tiddlywiki --rendertiddlers [!is[system]] 
$:/core/templates/static.tiddler.html static text/plain
zsh: event not found: is[system]]

Apparently ZSH is the default shell on MacOS Catalina. I do not know if I 
have messed up my ZSH shell configuration. I think I want to find it, 
delete it, and reload a clean shell so I can get past the error above - 
right? 

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[tw5] How to add video to tiddler

how can you take a video you imported and use it in the video html

{
 
  
  Your browser does not support the video tag.
 
}

all i have is that and the video doesnt load but if i use a web link it does



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[tw5] Plugin installation fails

2020-08-16 Thread John Federico

Greetings. Total TW n00b here with the intention of migrating from 
Evernote. I searched the archives but couldn't find anything resembling my 
issue.

I'm running FireFox 79 on Pop!_OS 20.04 (Ubuntu). I have TW5 installed in 
my home directory and am using both tmimi and GitHub Saver.

New Tiddlers are saved properly, as are my configuration changes and 
languages

However, any attempts to install plugins in my TW5 instance fail, even 
after saving and reloading. (e.g. Evernote import, markdown parser)

I have tried removing both tmimi and GitHub Saver with no positive results.

Any direction would be helpful.

Thanks. 

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[tw5] Re: Ideas for an UN-official community plugin library

I might point out that Linux operates this way.

When you install Linux, almost any variety, you also get a package manager. 
With the package manager you have access to 1000s of different software 
products. You just search, select, and install the software that you want 
without having to search the web, download, find dependencies, etc. The 
versions you get may not be the latest versions, but that's usually OK. If 
people need the latest, then they go to the original source.



On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 8:20:08 AM UTC-7, PMario wrote:
>
> On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 3:53:08 PM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi, ... Not really. 
>>>
>>>
>> We would ask first, of course.
>>
>> So your plugins aren't open source?
>>
>
> Sure they are. ... But being in control and defining an organisational 
> hierarchy in Git*H*ub is a PITA. As far as I can see, the access rights 
> can only be defined per repo and not per "subdirectory". .. And there is no 
> convenient and easy to explore "sub-repo" structure. 
>
> I did play around with a tiddlywiki-org organisation 
>  at github 3 month ago.  ... As you 
> can see "plugins" is 1 element of it. ... It also contains some basic 
> configuration for 15 teams, that will allow users to create a basic 
> "access" structure. .. But the system at GitHub was designed for Enterprise 
> organisations, where you have 10 admins that have a full time job, doing 
> the maintenance (Just my experience, but I may be missing the simple 
> stuff.). 
>
> I did want to mimic something which I had experimented with at Git*L*ab 2 
> years ago: https://GitLab.com/tiddlywiki.org ... where it is easy and 
> convenient to configure. There is even a youtube playlist 
> ,
>  
> that describes most of the ideas in much more detail. ...  
>
> Down to a prototype of *1 possible* Governance Model 
> , that starts as 
> simple as possible and is just a starting point. 
>
> From my point of view, before we put a lot of energy into an "un"official 
> plugin library, We should put it into an "*Official Community Dot Org*" 
> project. (I actually don't know, who owns tiddlywiki.org ... but it also 
> could be tiddly.wiki which imo belongs to TT)
>
> BUT from my point of view, we need a Governance Model first, that defines 
> the basic "rule set" for contributions to the different elements. We need 
> to describe the "decision making" process, so users know about them, so 
> they can be sure what to expect. see: Governance Model 
> 
>
> 
>
> List of videos 
> ,
>  
> so you know, what I was thinking about: 
>
> 01 Improve Community Communication - Intro
> 02 TiddlyWiki Landingpage - proposal
> 03 Feature Request and Voting Mechanism
> 04 Using e-mail to request a new feature
> 05 Governance Model Proposal
> 06 Use Issues, to contribute to governance model
> 07 Use merge request, to contribute to governance
> 08 Consensus Seeking and Repo Structure
> 09 Request Access to Sub-Groups
>
> Have fun!
> mario
>
> PS: I didn't promote the Git*L*ab idea, since I didn't see a convenient 
> way to migrate contributors from GitHub to GitLab. 
>
> PPS: tiddlywiki.org.gitlab.io isn't possible anymore. ... But the second 
> video shows, how it was meant ;)
>
> PPPS: I personally think, that GitHub is not mature enough to make the 
> management easy, but if *someone can tell me the simple stuff *it may be 
> a possibility too. 
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Problem adding file to TiddlyDesktop

With Timimi there is a separate exe download that you need to run for your 
Chrome or Chromium. It's different from the one you ran for Firefox.

The rule in marketing is that you always want your product to be unique or 
special.

Once FF removed extensions, it removed most of what made it special. 
There's no real reason not to try something else. Per a suggestion here, 
I've been trying Chromium.

Re Tiddlydesktop, I'm guessing you landed on the wrong target. Instead of 
dragging and dropping, try the "Add file" button.  

Also, if you still have trouble, consider using TD v13. I feel there have 
been more errors reported with v14, and it doesn't offer that much more van 
v13.

On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 6:37:43 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi Tony
>
> 1) Regarding Firefox dying: 
> https://www.zdnet.com/article/an-endangered-internet-species-firefox/
>
> 2) I am using Timimi on Firefox and it is working great.
>
> 3) Maybe I just need help configuring Timimi on Chrome? I added the Timimi 
> extension to Chrome, but it still saves the "Chrome" way - saving a 
> duplicate of the file for every save, but the changes do not get saved in 
> the original file. So if I have it bookmarked, the bookmark will open a 
> file without the changes. So it looks like I would have to go into the 
> folder every day and delete the duplicates and rename the last duplicate 
> with the original filename. I don't want to do that.
>
> 4) You didn't reply to my main question, about TiddlyDesktop... :-)
>
> On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 8:02:47 AM UTC-5 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> David
>>
>> I don't understand your first sentence. If you do not want a server 
>> version timimi makes tiddlywiki easier and more reliable than any time in 
>> its history, on chrome and firefox, and how is Firefox diminished in any 
>> way?
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Differentiate

As soon as I have time I will make an example Mark

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[tw5] Re: Ideas for an UN-official community plugin library

On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 3:53:08 PM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>
>
>
>
>> Hi, ... Not really. 
>>
>>
> We would ask first, of course.
>
> So your plugins aren't open source?
>

Sure they are. ... But being in control and defining an organisational 
hierarchy in Git*H*ub is a PITA. As far as I can see, the access rights can 
only be defined per repo and not per "subdirectory". .. And there is no 
convenient and easy to explore "sub-repo" structure. 

I did play around with a tiddlywiki-org organisation 
 at github 3 month ago.  ... As you can 
see "plugins" is 1 element of it. ... It also contains some basic 
configuration for 15 teams, that will allow users to create a basic 
"access" structure. .. But the system at GitHub was designed for Enterprise 
organisations, where you have 10 admins that have a full time job, doing 
the maintenance (Just my experience, but I may be missing the simple 
stuff.). 

I did want to mimic something which I had experimented with at Git*L*ab 2 
years ago: https://GitLab.com/tiddlywiki.org ... where it is easy and 
convenient to configure. There is even a youtube playlist 
,

that describes most of the ideas in much more detail. ...  

Down to a prototype of *1 possible* Governance Model 
, that starts as 
simple as possible and is just a starting point. 

>From my point of view, before we put a lot of energy into an "un"official 
plugin library, We should put it into an "*Official Community Dot Org*" 
project. (I actually don't know, who owns tiddlywiki.org ... but it also 
could be tiddly.wiki which imo belongs to TT)

BUT from my point of view, we need a Governance Model first, that defines 
the basic "rule set" for contributions to the different elements. We need 
to describe the "decision making" process, so users know about them, so 
they can be sure what to expect. see: Governance Model 

List of videos 
,

so you know, what I was thinking about: 

01 Improve Community Communication - Intro
02 TiddlyWiki Landingpage - proposal
03 Feature Request and Voting Mechanism
04 Using e-mail to request a new feature
05 Governance Model Proposal
06 Use Issues, to contribute to governance model
07 Use merge request, to contribute to governance
08 Consensus Seeking and Repo Structure
09 Request Access to Sub-Groups

Have fun!
mario

PS: I didn't promote the Git*L*ab idea, since I didn't see a convenient way 
to migrate contributors from GitHub to GitLab. 

PPS: tiddlywiki.org.gitlab.io isn't possible anymore. ... But the second 
video shows, how it was meant ;)

PPPS: I personally think, that GitHub is not mature enough to make the 
management easy, but if *someone can tell me the simple stuff *it may be a 
possibility too. 

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[tw5] Re: Editing transcluded tiddlers in-place

2020-08-16 Thread clutterstack

@Birthe 

Waking up in the middle of the night due to toothache...I had a rhum milk.
>
> Ouch! That's the worst. Not the rum, the toothache.

That might be the reason I could not find where you used the cute icon 
> fish-water.svg you have in the plugin? I had to adopt it.
>
 
 The fish-water icon was for a button, instead of the text title link, to 
open the tiddler in the story. It's not in use right now because I was 
trying to make the "rider" tiddler blend in, with as few buttons as 
possible. My Omni plugin does use it, though.

Cheers,
Chris

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[tw5] Re: Ideas for an UN-official community plugin library

2020-08-16 Thread Ste

Off topic but I keep reading this as U.N.Official community plugin library and 
get half way though thinking 'wow.. Tiddlywiki being used by the UN and they 
have a plugin library for it!!! That's amazing' before reading the title 
correctly. 

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[tw5] Re: Differentiate

I think some concrete examples would help. As it is, there seems to be a 
logical inconsistency. You can't code your way out of a logical 
inconsistency.

For instance, let's say you have indication,

Covid2030: LossOfSmell, HighTemperature, Horns

You have no other indication with "Horns". So when you select Covid2030, no 
other indication will appear.




On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 2:11:25 AM UTC-7, Vincent vd B wrote:
>
> I think you are right Mark. I think I should tag the syndromes to the 
> correct indications. That will solve the problem?
> Or maybe work with fields? List the indications in a field in each tiddler 
> that describes a specific syndrome?
>
> Starting with the syndromes is not an option here. That is the opposite 
> way. If you start from indications, you always 
> have some indications available. Selecting these indications eliminates 
> all other syndromes and indications that have 
> nothing to do with them. With the remaining indications you can start 
> questioning and researching very specifically.
>
>
> On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 4:00:48 PM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> I feel there is something wrong with the way this is described, or at 
>> least the way I'm understanding it. Each indication can have multiple 
>> syndromes. If an indication has even one syndrome that is unique to that 
>> indication, then checking that indication will automatically eliminate all 
>> other indications, even if the instance at hand does not have that one 
>> unique syndrome.
>>
>> I can see it working the other way -- you check off syndromes, and as you 
>> do the list of possible indications becomes smaller.
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 3:09:14 AM UTC-7, Vincent vd B wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Syndrome Differentiation:
>>> To make a diagnosis, look for indications to differentiate between 
>>> possible syndromes.
>>>
>>> I have tiddlers who each describe a syndrome.
>>> and tiddlers describing an indication (tagged with the syndromes wich it 
>>> is indicating to).
>>>
>>> What I want is some kind of checklist with all indications. (A list of 
>>> all tiddlers with the tag: Indication)
>>> If I tick a indication:
>>> All indications that do not refer to that specific syndrome disappear 
>>> from the list. And any syndromes common to the selected indication (s) will 
>>> appear at the bottom of the tiddler.
>>>
>>> Every time I tick an indication, the possible indications and syndromes 
>>> become visible. That makes it easier to research and question. Until I only 
>>> have one or a few syndromes left.
>>>
>>> And I need a reset button.
>>>
>>> Basically it is like a kind of database / table where you filter 
>>> everything out of the data that has nothing to do with it.
>>>
>>> I am not good at coding and am looking for someone who can help me out.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Ideas for an UN-official community plugin library




> Hi, ... Not really. 
>
>
We would ask first, of course.

So your plugins aren't open source?
 

>
> I don't want them to be "language" mixed _and_ may be "author" mixed. 
>
>
I was talking about a LIBRARY. The plugins are not activated and can't 
conflict until someone loads them into their own TW file. If they choose to 
load 20 at once, that's their risk.

To be clear. I want to be in control of my content! I don't want the 
> library config tiddlers to be cloned! I only want a link to the pages, that 
> contain the config tiddlers! It needs to be possible to have 1 and only 1 
> "source of truth"!
>
>
The problem with 1 source of truth is, as history has shown, is that it is 
*ONE* step away from *zero*. 

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[tw5] Re: Problem adding file to TiddlyDesktop

Hi Tony

1) Regarding Firefox dying: 
https://www.zdnet.com/article/an-endangered-internet-species-firefox/

2) I am using Timimi on Firefox and it is working great.

3) Maybe I just need help configuring Timimi on Chrome? I added the Timimi 
extension to Chrome, but it still saves the "Chrome" way - saving a 
duplicate of the file for every save, but the changes do not get saved in 
the original file. So if I have it bookmarked, the bookmark will open a 
file without the changes. So it looks like I would have to go into the 
folder every day and delete the duplicates and rename the last duplicate 
with the original filename. I don't want to do that.

4) You didn't reply to my main question, about TiddlyDesktop... :-)

On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 8:02:47 AM UTC-5 TW Tones wrote:

> David
>
> I don't understand your first sentence. If you do not want a server 
> version timimi makes tiddlywiki easier and more reliable than any time in 
> its history, on chrome and firefox, and how is Firefox diminished in any 
> way?
>
> Regards
> Tony
>

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[tw5] Re: Ideas for an UN-official community plugin library

On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 8:58:01 AM UTC+2, Mat wrote:
>
> Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> [...] why not have a plugin library repository on github? 
>>
>  
> [...] And would plugin makers even *want *to host their plugins there, in 
> someone elses repository? (Would you?)
>

Hi, ... Not really. 

I do have 19 plugins and 1 theme in my library link at wikilabs 
organisation. ... I do take care, that my plugins are compatible with my 
theme and other prominent plugins eg: relink. BUT I'm not able to maintain 
compatibility with every other plugin library. 

A new organisation "Unite" is coming soon, which will start with 2 plugins. 
There should be more in the future "in German" as the primary language. 

I don't want them to be "language" mixed _and_ may be "author" mixed. 

---

BUT having a curated repository, with a "landing page" that links to 
different organisations would be OK. ... 

To be clear. I want to be in control of my content! I don't want the 
library config tiddlers to be cloned! I only want a link to the pages, that 
contain the config tiddlers! It needs to be possible to have 1 and only 1 
"source of truth"!

just my thoughts. 
mario

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[tw5] Re: Differentiate

Thank you TW Tones, 

On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 2:47:46 PM UTC+2, TW Tones wrote:
>
> Vincent
>
> I will give it some thought. Should be quite simple with a little analysis.
>
> As I said it may prove a very useful algorithium.
>
> Regards
> Tones
>
>

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[tw5] Problem adding file to TiddlyDesktop

David

I don't understand your first sentence. If you do not want a server version 
timimi makes tiddlywiki easier and more reliable than any time in its history, 
on chrome and firefox, and how is Firefox diminished in any way?

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Problem adding file to TiddlyDesktop


Hi all

Given that Firefox seems to be dying, and Chrome's saving for stand alone 
is annoying and confusing, I am looking at other options.

I downloaded TiddlyDesktop, moved it to a folder, started it with nw.exe, 
and dragged a tiddlywiki file into it. What appeared was " Index of 
[filepath to the folder above the folder in which the file resides]."

Am I doing this wrong?

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[tw5] Re: Differentiate

Vincent

I will give it some thought. Should be quite simple with a little analysis.

As I said it may prove a very useful algorithium.

Regards
Tones

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[tw5] Re: Differentiate

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Re: [tw5] Editing transcluded tiddlers in-place

2020-08-16 Thread Atronoush Parsi

Chris,
 Wonderful! Thank you for sharing! While there are plugins and code to do
such in place editing! But the rider is different and has extra features!
 I love it!

Minor comments:
 - On single click the transcluded tiddler content, it goes to edit mode
and I may want to select text and NOT open the editor! So, if edit/view
only triggered when the icon/title clicked on the top right of transcluded
content is better!
- Let the background and border can be set on demand

Atro




On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 5:45 AM clutterstack  wrote:

> Well, I've had a lovely Hop City Barking Squirrel lager and so clearly I
> should celebrate by uploading something to GitHub and telling people about
> it.
>
> It's a little plugin exposing a macro to transclude a tiddler, with a
> button to open the editor for the transcluded tiddler in-place.
>
> I'm aware this has been done before, most recently, I think, by TW Tones
> in a single-tiddler solution in this thread
> 
> (which I also found quite illuminating as to how many different approaches
> one might have to a seemingly-simple request).
>
> This plugin kind of fell out while I was refactoring my Omni plugin
> macros, and, having explored it, I think that for me it's a dead end, as
> I'm likely to be using something like Omni or Streams already, and it's not
> exactly a sub-component of Omni. But I packaged it up and put up a demo:
>
> https://clutterstack.github.io/can-tw/rider-plugin.html
>
> Do with it what you will, but don't lose valuable tiddlers!
>
> One thing that I did with this, that I haven't yet for Omni, was to
> transclude the $:/core/ui/EditTemplate/body tiddler, and thus gain access
> to the editor toolbar, and editor operations. I haven't integrated them
> all, but it did allow me to use Saq's Editor AutoLists on the embedded
> tiddlers.
>
> ..was I supposed to upload, write this message, and celebrate THAT by
> having the beer? Ah well. Next time.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
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[tw5] Re: Differentiate

I understand your point and I fully agree with you TW Tones
But I myself am not able to convert my idea into code, especially with your 
proposal for adding contraindications. 
Because I'm going to depend on the willingness and expertise of others, I 
don't want to make it too complicated. 
But maybe you can come up with a working idea?

On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 4:21:21 PM UTC+2, TW Tones wrote:
>
> Vincent,
>
> My suggestion for contra-indications is not about building your solution, 
> but as I understand it, its a medical necessity. In your case for example 
> you say "No Sweating" this could be considered a "contra-indication", if 
> all other diagnoses considered. The problem is the words "all other 
> diagnoses considered", because we rarely do that. Its more like saying for 
> this diagnoses the person "Must not sweat at all", it's not that you may 
> not observe it, its that "if they are sweating" it is *not the current 
> diagnosis*.
>
> I know it sounds like they are the same thing, "a negative of a symptom is 
> a contra indication", but as I understand it, this is not the case. Part of 
> the issue is when you use search to find something, not finding it, is not 
> a contra-indication, you need to find a statement that "it must not be so".
>
> Any way do what you will with my point.
>
> Regards
> Tones
>
> On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 12:04:11 AM UTC+10, Vincent vd B wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for your response Tony,
>>
>> I have thought about it once, but that is not necessary in principle.
>> To begin with, the outcome is not definitive. For example, "sweating" is 
>> just as good as "not sweating" an indication. 
>> If you are left with a few possible syndromes, you can continue your very 
>> specific search.
>> You can then put any important points for attention in order to 
>> differentiate in the tiddler of the syndrome concerned.
>>
>> What I kept out of consideration because I feared it would get too 
>> complicated then is working with categories.
>> This would make the very long row of indications a lot clearer.
>>
>> As an example:
>>
>> * Categorie: Sweat
>> ** No sweating (Indication)
>> ** Little sweating.
>> ** Heavy sweating
>> ** Sweating after exercise
>> ** Sweating in the evening
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 2:16:37 PM UTC+2, TW Tones wrote:
>>>
>>> Vincent,
>>>
>>> I will see if I can contribute more - But listening to a podcast 
>>> recently I learned another important step is to consider for diagnosis it 
>>> "contra-indications." 
>>>
>>> When a Diagnosis is imminent given the indications a list of 
>>> contra-indications can be given, so if one of these is observed you can 
>>> rule out one of more of the possible diagnosis.
>>>
>>> Actually the idea of indications and contra indications could be suited 
>>> to many areas such as trouble shooting or problem solving.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 8:09:14 PM UTC+10, Vincent vd B wrote:

 Hello,

 Syndrome Differentiation:
 To make a diagnosis, look for indications to differentiate between 
 possible syndromes.

 I have tiddlers who each describe a syndrome.
 and tiddlers describing an indication (tagged with the syndromes wich 
 it is indicating to).

 What I want is some kind of checklist with all indications. (A list of 
 all tiddlers with the tag: Indication)
 If I tick a indication:
 All indications that do not refer to that specific syndrome disappear 
 from the list. And any syndromes common to the selected indication (s) 
 will 
 appear at the bottom of the tiddler.

 Every time I tick an indication, the possible indications and syndromes 
 become visible. That makes it easier to research and question. Until I 
 only 
 have one or a few syndromes left.

 And I need a reset button.

 Basically it is like a kind of database / table where you filter 
 everything out of the data that has nothing to do with it.

 I am not good at coding and am looking for someone who can help me out.

 Thank you,

>>>

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[tw5] Issue with Quine 2 - HELP

2020-08-16 Thread IvanPsy

It worked until some minutes ago.

Now I added a new tiddler, saved it, closed the App.
Then I opened up the App again, loaded the HTML file, but I get only a 
blank screen.

I uninstalled and downloaded the App again, but the issue persists.

Quine 2, the iPhone and the iPad are all updated to the last version.

Any idea to fix it?

Thank you!

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[tw5] Re: Differentiate

It is that we cannot live without it. Furthermore, I sympathize with you 
Birthe.. :))  LOL

On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 10:40:16 PM UTC+2, Birthe C wrote:
>
> I would think it highly indicative if a person was not able to sweat at 
> all.
>
> Interesting project you are working on, Vincent vd B.
>
> Birthe
>

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[tw5] Re: Differentiate

I think you are right Mark. I think I should tag the syndromes to the 
correct indications. That will solve the problem?
Or maybe work with fields? List the indications in a field in each tiddler 
that describes a specific syndrome?

Starting with the syndromes is not an option here. That is the opposite 
way. If you start from indications, you always 
have some indications available. Selecting these indications eliminates all 
other syndromes and indications that have 
nothing to do with them. With the remaining indications you can start 
questioning and researching very specifically.


On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 4:00:48 PM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I feel there is something wrong with the way this is described, or at 
> least the way I'm understanding it. Each indication can have multiple 
> syndromes. If an indication has even one syndrome that is unique to that 
> indication, then checking that indication will automatically eliminate all 
> other indications, even if the instance at hand does not have that one 
> unique syndrome.
>
> I can see it working the other way -- you check off syndromes, and as you 
> do the list of possible indications becomes smaller.
>
>
> On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 3:09:14 AM UTC-7, Vincent vd B wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Syndrome Differentiation:
>> To make a diagnosis, look for indications to differentiate between 
>> possible syndromes.
>>
>> I have tiddlers who each describe a syndrome.
>> and tiddlers describing an indication (tagged with the syndromes wich it 
>> is indicating to).
>>
>> What I want is some kind of checklist with all indications. (A list of 
>> all tiddlers with the tag: Indication)
>> If I tick a indication:
>> All indications that do not refer to that specific syndrome disappear 
>> from the list. And any syndromes common to the selected indication (s) will 
>> appear at the bottom of the tiddler.
>>
>> Every time I tick an indication, the possible indications and syndromes 
>> become visible. That makes it easier to research and question. Until I only 
>> have one or a few syndromes left.
>>
>> And I need a reset button.
>>
>> Basically it is like a kind of database / table where you filter 
>> everything out of the data that has nothing to do with it.
>>
>> I am not good at coding and am looking for someone who can help me out.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: How do you manage bibliography and other citations?

2020-08-16 Thread IvanPsy

Hi Keenan thank you for the great reply.

As for the Stream plugin, do you mean this:  
https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/bullets.html ?

I think I’ll test it on a second TiddlyWiki: is there any chance adding 
this plugin would break the wiki?
It says it’s a prototype.

And: what if I wanted to delete the plugin in the future? Will I lose the 
structure and break the wiki?
I see each tiddler has a string of text as title: I think I shouldn’t 
change it, is it?
My concern is I will have a wiki with hundreds of tiddlers with such 
strange name, so that I’ll not be able to refer to them in the future (as 
the title won’t be a human sentence).

How do I add the plugin?
Is dragging and dropping the $:/plugins/sq/bullets 

 text 
on my TiddlyWiki enough?

Il giorno giovedì 13 agosto 2020 alle 17:13:52 UTC+2 keela...@gmail.com ha 
scritto:

> I concur with Mark. I'm currently using Refnotes as well, in addition to 
> Saq's Streams plugin.
>
> Here's my workflow with it:
>
>1. I've created a text expander flow that auto-populates the syntax 
>for a footnote, so that I can just use a / command to call it up.
>2. I create a source tiddler for the book, and using the Streams 
>plugin, you can very quickly take notes on a book. Each new node is 
>actually a tiddler, so it creates atomic notes that are all just connected 
>to the source tiddler for the book. Each one can then be linked to other 
>topics of notes, of course, and they can be transcluded or copied into 
>another tiddler for composition later.
>3. With each note created this way, I use my text expander to quickly 
>call up the macro for a footnote and simply add bib info at the end of 
> each 
>note. That means every, single note now has the bib reference in it.
>4. Added bonus: The Refnotes plugin also allows you to easily create a 
>bibliography at the bottom of a tiddler based off all the footnotes in the 
>tiddler. And if I pull in notes from multiple books to a new article 
>tiddler by transclusion, it dynamically updates the numbering in the new 
>tiddler and adds them to that bottom bibliography section for that note. 
>This is especially nice if I'm writing an article inside TiddlyWiki. 
>
> Happy to explain more if it would help. 
>
> On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 8:43:36 AM UTC-5 Mark S. wrote:
>
>> You might find refnotes useful (https://kookma.github.io/Refnotes/)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 1:06:43 AM UTC-7, IvanPsy wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I started with TiddlyWiki as my second brain, and I love it!
>>>
>>> Now...I read lots of papers and other research, articles and blog posts.
>>> When I extract the information and put them in my TiddlyWiki I lose all 
>>> the references, as all is mixed inside my second brain: in a single tiddler 
>>> there may be information extracted from several articles, and a single 
>>> article may be split into several tiddlers.
>>>
>>> But I need to get back to the reference when I write my articles for the 
>>> public, so that I can cite who said what.
>>>
>>> How do you manage it?
>>> Any example?
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: SideEditor 2.0 - A live editor floating by the river side...

Ton, thanks for your feedback.

1) I don't see a way to cancel the SideEditor (other than using the Save 
> and close button (√))
>

Correct. You can't because you're modifying it *live,* which is what I'm 
after. To cancel would mean there would have to be a second copy of it all 
(like with draft tiddlers). Macros are an exception and do use a second 
temporary copy (because they, unfortunately, *can't* be edited live).
 

> 2) When opened in a new window:
> 2.1) The Save and close button (√) disappeares from the toolbar  
>

Overall, there are intentional slight differences in the menu bar UI 
between the in-wiki editor and the break-out window, because they are 
intended for different uses. But I DID try actually try to include a "Save 
and close" button but didn't get it to work. You can see it in the shadow 
$:/plugins/TWaddle/SideEditor/Window 

 i.e:

[tw5] Re: SVG Overlay and positioning question?

Yes. You need to add a class to the span because you'll target the svg. So 
the general idea is:

{{mysvgtiddler}}


.foo *svg *{width:...; height:...;}


You mention "double the size" and it seems simple enough to use e.g "200%" 
then but % here is relative to the outer frame which is not the image. So 
you might have to specify in static measure units. You could also wrap both 
spans in a div and control its size.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Ideas for an UN-official community plugin library