[tw5] Re: [Tiddly Research] Public release

2020-09-12 Thread kebi


> The only thing i miss is Autocomplete which i think you are working on


Autocompletion will come with the 5.1.23 TiddlyWiki update, stay tuned!

Request: Can you make the unlinked links highlight like they are when using 
> Freelinks Plugin?
>

I tried to do this before but I couldn't find a way to integrate the 
context plugin (the one that the freelink uses for highlighs) with the 
preview tiddler plugin.
Hopefully word highlightning will become a feature in tiddlywiki in the 
future.

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[tw5] Re: Change the transclusion view template

2020-09-12 Thread kebi
Didn't know you could use templates with the transclusion function.
My problems are solved, thanks Mario!

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[tw5] Re: No newline in the quote part

2020-09-12 Thread Zhe Lee
Hi anyway to make all the tiddlder process newline as usually processed for 
all tiddler? 

For now make double enter as newline a litter boring


On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 10:39:59 PM UTC+8, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 6:16:44 AM UTC-7, imleg...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Plz check that the newline mark not shown in the quote part after render, 
>> why this happpened. 
>>
>> I think the quote content should be
>> export x
>> export x
>> export x
>>
>> like this. 
>>
>
> As with all web content (not just TiddlyWiki), HTML content is rendered 
> "inline", which joins separate lines and reduces multiple spaces to single 
> spaces.
>
> Thus, the following:
> foo bar
> bazmumble frotz
> gronk
> snork  snerfle argle bargle
>
> is displayed as:
> foo bar baz mumble frotz gronk snork snerfle argle bargle
>
> Blockquotes in wikitext (see 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Block%20Quotes%20in%20WikiText) are no exception.
>
> To force a newline within HTML content, it is standard practice to embed 
>  where you want the newline to occur.
>
> Of course, this can be somewhat inconvenient when you have multiple lines 
> of content for which you want each line to remain separate.
>
> In this case, you can use CSS to control the "white-space" handling, like 
> this:
> 
> line one
> line two
> line three
> 
>
> You can also accomplish this using a CSS *classname*:
>  .whitespace { white-space:pre; } 
>
> 
> line one
> line two
> line three
> 
>
> The same CSS class technique can also be applied to TW wikitext 
> blockquotes, like this:
>  .whitespace { white-space:pre; } 
>
> <<<.whitespace
> line1
> line2
> line3
> <<<
>
> Note that, rather than putting the ... directly in the 
> tiddler content, it is better to put it in a separate tiddler which will 
> define the class once for use as many times as you like:
>
> 1) create a tiddler, e.g., MyStyles, tagged with $:/tags/Stylesheet, 
> containing:
> .whitespace { white-space:pre; }
>
> 2) Use that CSS class anywhere you like:
> <<<.whitespace
> line 1
> line 2
> line 3
> <<< 
>
> enjoy,
> -e
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[tw5] Re: Javascript Human Friendly Date Parser?

2020-09-12 Thread TW Tones
Re parsing an input;

There is a facility in the current pre release keyboard-driven-input Macro 


This allows actions to be executed from an input field, say with enter. 
This may provide the opportunity to do post entry processing. Effectively 
allowing you to make more sophisticated parsing take place on a per input 
basis.

Thus you could pass the value to other functions, if available for the 
result.

Regards
Tony



On Sunday, 13 September 2020 01:45:25 UTC+10, amreus wrote:
>
>
> Ruby has this great library called Chronic that parses strings into Ruby 
> Date objects. It handles date strings that are human friendly as well as in 
> rigid formats.
>
> You can see some usage examples here: https://github.com/mojombo/chronic
>
> Has anyone already made such a parser for TiddyWiki5? Does anyone know if 
> a similar library exists for Javascript which could be used?
>
> Why?  I have a textbox for rapid list item entry.  Instead of picking a 
> due-date for example, I just want to include the due-date as part of the 
> text and have a macro parse it out from the title and add it as a date 
> field. An example entry in my textbox might look like this:
>
> Schedule a fire system test due:"oct 1 8am"
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: a transclusion inconcistency

2020-09-12 Thread TW Tones
Touched on here 

   - https://tiddlywiki.com/#Widgets%20in%20WikiText
   - https://tiddlywiki.com/#HTML%20in%20WikiText
   - https://tiddlywiki.com/#Transclusion%20and%20Substitution
   - https://tiddlywiki.com/#Transclusion%20in%20WikiText
   
I searched tiddlywiki.com for "{{{" to get these results.

Unfortunately the documentation is not totally consistent.

Regards
Tony

On Sunday, 13 September 2020 12:43:14 UTC+10, Bob Jansen wrote:
>
> Thanks Eric. By the way, where do all those brackets come from in the 
> inline filter and where is all that documented when to use which and how 
> many ?
>
> Bobj
>
> Dr. Bob Jansen
> 122 Cameron St, Rockdale NSW 2216, Australia
> Ph: +61 414 297 448
> Skype: bobjtls
>
>
> On 13 Sep 2020, at 12:12, Eric Shulman > 
> wrote:
>
> On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 6:12:12 PM UTC-7, Bob Jansen wrote:
>>
>> <$button>
>> <$wikify name="theuniqueid" text={{$:/TLS/uniqueid}}>
>> <$action-createtiddler $basetitle="$:/TLS/new-id" $overwrite="yes" />
>> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/TLS/new-id" text={{$:/TLS/uniqueid}} 
>> uniqueid=<> />
>> 
>> Add
>> 
>>
>
> This can also be done without using $wikify, by using an "inline filter", 
> like this:
> <$button> Add
> <$vars id={{{ [{$:/TLS/idcode}addsuffix{$:/TLS/incremental}] }}}>
> <$action-createtiddler $basetitle="$:/TLS/new-id" $overwrite="yes" />
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/TLS/new-id" text=<> uniqueid=<> />
> 
> 
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: a transclusion inconcistency

2020-09-12 Thread TW Tones
Bob,

The Triple braces is documented but not very well. I will locate it if I 
can, but basically it can contain any filter who result is used where it is 
defined. 

When being used for maths and single values is very useful. 
{{{ filter }}}

however another form is also possible; for example in a macro apply a 
template for each item.

{{{ $(varnam)$ ||$:/core/templates/plain-text-tiddler}}}

Regards

Tony



On Sunday, 13 September 2020 12:43:14 UTC+10, Bob Jansen wrote:
>
> Thanks Eric. By the way, where do all those brackets come from in the 
> inline filter and where is all that documented when to use which and how 
> many ?
>
> Bobj
>
> Dr. Bob Jansen
> 122 Cameron St, Rockdale NSW 2216, Australia
> Ph: +61 414 297 448
> Skype: bobjtls
>
>
> On 13 Sep 2020, at 12:12, Eric Shulman > 
> wrote:
>
> On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 6:12:12 PM UTC-7, Bob Jansen wrote:
>>
>> <$button>
>> <$wikify name="theuniqueid" text={{$:/TLS/uniqueid}}>
>> <$action-createtiddler $basetitle="$:/TLS/new-id" $overwrite="yes" />
>> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/TLS/new-id" text={{$:/TLS/uniqueid}} 
>> uniqueid=<> />
>> 
>> Add
>> 
>>
>
> This can also be done without using $wikify, by using an "inline filter", 
> like this:
> <$button> Add
> <$vars id={{{ [{$:/TLS/idcode}addsuffix{$:/TLS/incremental}] }}}>
> <$action-createtiddler $basetitle="$:/TLS/new-id" $overwrite="yes" />
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/TLS/new-id" text=<> uniqueid=<> />
> 
> 
>
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[tw5] Re: a transclusion inconcistency

2020-09-12 Thread TW Tones
Bob

Its wise also close the Wikify widget 

Tones

On Sunday, 13 September 2020 11:12:12 UTC+10, Bob Jansen wrote:
>
> I have found an answer in a question, Lost in transclusion, posted on 20 
> August.
>
> Eric and Tones provide the information about transclusion and having to 
> use the wikifi widget. Taking their example and adding the wikifi line in 
> my main tiddler code makes things work correctly.
>
> New main tiddler code:
> <$button>
> <$wikify name="theuniqueid" text={{$:/TLS/uniqueid}}>
> <$action-createtiddler $basetitle="$:/TLS/new-id" $overwrite="yes" />
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/TLS/new-id" text={{$:/TLS/uniqueid}} 
> uniqueid=<> />
> />
> Add
> 
>
>
> On Sunday, 13 September 2020 at 10:53:51 UTC+10 Bob Jansen wrote:
>
>> I have found an inconcistency in transclusion as follows:
>>
>> Main tiddler code:
>> <$button>
>> <$action-createtiddler $basetitle="$:/TLS/new-id" $overwrite="yes" />
>> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/TLS/new-id" uniqueid={{$:/TLS/uniqueid}} />
>> />
>> Add
>> 
>>
>> :$/TLS/uniueid tiddler code:
>> {{$:/TLS/idcode}}{{$:/TLS/incremental}}
>>
>> which displays as YB27 when the idcode is YB and the incremental is 27
>>
>> in the main tiddler, if the action-setfield sets the text field, then the 
>> value inserted is the transclusion of the uniqueid tiddler, namely, YB27
>>
>> if the maiin tiddler action-setfield code tries to set a field, then the 
>> field's contents after actioning the code 
>> is {{$:/TLS/idcode}}{{$:/TLS/incremental}} and not the transcluded value
>>
>> Anybody else found this?
>>
>> bobj
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: a transclusion inconcistency

2020-09-12 Thread Bob Jansen
Thanks Eric. By the way, where do all those brackets come from in the inline 
filter and where is all that documented when to use which and how many ?

Bobj

Dr. Bob Jansen
122 Cameron St, Rockdale NSW 2216, Australia
Ph: +61 414 297 448
Skype: bobjtls


> On 13 Sep 2020, at 12:12, Eric Shulman  wrote:
> 
>> On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 6:12:12 PM UTC-7, Bob Jansen wrote:
>> <$button>
>> <$wikify name="theuniqueid" text={{$:/TLS/uniqueid}}>
>> <$action-createtiddler $basetitle="$:/TLS/new-id" $overwrite="yes" />
>> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/TLS/new-id" text={{$:/TLS/uniqueid}} 
>> uniqueid=<> />
>> 
>> Add
>> 
> 
> This can also be done without using $wikify, by using an "inline filter", 
> like this:
> <$button> Add
> <$vars id={{{ [{$:/TLS/idcode}addsuffix{$:/TLS/incremental}] }}}>
> <$action-createtiddler $basetitle="$:/TLS/new-id" $overwrite="yes" />
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/TLS/new-id" text=<> uniqueid=<> />
> 
> 
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[tw5] Re: a transclusion inconcistency

2020-09-12 Thread Eric Shulman
On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 6:12:12 PM UTC-7, Bob Jansen wrote:
>
> <$button>
> <$wikify name="theuniqueid" text={{$:/TLS/uniqueid}}>
> <$action-createtiddler $basetitle="$:/TLS/new-id" $overwrite="yes" />
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/TLS/new-id" text={{$:/TLS/uniqueid}} 
> uniqueid=<> />
> 
> Add
> 
>

This can also be done without using $wikify, by using an "inline filter", 
like this:
<$button> Add
<$vars id={{{ [{$:/TLS/idcode}addsuffix{$:/TLS/incremental}] }}}>
<$action-createtiddler $basetitle="$:/TLS/new-id" $overwrite="yes" />
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/TLS/new-id" text=<> uniqueid=<> />



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[tw5] Re: A beautiful post that describes the Joy of Tiddlywiki

2020-09-12 Thread Donald Coates
Thank you!  I had looked into webmentions as a plugin for wordpress at one 
time.  You have hit on something I am very interested in -- activitypub 
based comment system so that 1) you can use a 'universal login system' and 
2) conversations can happen both on the blog page and, in the event of a 
single comment/reply situation, a person can do that within their own 
'feed'.  Webmention doesn't really do either of these and is very limited.  
They talk about conversations but there is no way to really reply.  So if I 
had webmentions and you mentioned my post in your feed, that mention would 
show up but I could not directly answer it in a way that is useful.  You 
may be able to answer but there is no 'nested' view of a back and forth so 
it would be quite difficult to follow the conversation.  I may be wrong the 
documentation is sparse but that is what I came up with looking at 
wordpress implementations.

One idea I had was a pleroma instance and then using an iframe.

As you can see on my blog  I chose to just go 
with Remark42 which allows anonymous logins.  You still have to choose a 
username so I'll see how much spam is generated,  Not that I'm expecting a 
bunch of visitors.  I'll post more in a how to but I spun the Remark42 up 
in a docker container then put the 

[tw5] Re: a transclusion inconcistency

2020-09-12 Thread Bob Jansen
I have found an answer in a question, Lost in transclusion, posted on 20 
August.

Eric and Tones provide the information about transclusion and having to use 
the wikifi widget. Taking their example and adding the wikifi line in my 
main tiddler code makes things work correctly.

New main tiddler code:
<$button>
<$wikify name="theuniqueid" text={{$:/TLS/uniqueid}}>
<$action-createtiddler $basetitle="$:/TLS/new-id" $overwrite="yes" />
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/TLS/new-id" text={{$:/TLS/uniqueid}} 
uniqueid=<> />
/>
Add



On Sunday, 13 September 2020 at 10:53:51 UTC+10 Bob Jansen wrote:

> I have found an inconcistency in transclusion as follows:
>
> Main tiddler code:
> <$button>
> <$action-createtiddler $basetitle="$:/TLS/new-id" $overwrite="yes" />
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/TLS/new-id" uniqueid={{$:/TLS/uniqueid}} />
> />
> Add
> 
>
> :$/TLS/uniueid tiddler code:
> {{$:/TLS/idcode}}{{$:/TLS/incremental}}
>
> which displays as YB27 when the idcode is YB and the incremental is 27
>
> in the main tiddler, if the action-setfield sets the text field, then the 
> value inserted is the transclusion of the uniqueid tiddler, namely, YB27
>
> if the maiin tiddler action-setfield code tries to set a field, then the 
> field's contents after actioning the code 
> is {{$:/TLS/idcode}}{{$:/TLS/incremental}} and not the transcluded value
>
> Anybody else found this?
>
> bobj
>

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[tw5] a transclusion inconcistency

2020-09-12 Thread Bob Jansen
I have found an inconcistency in transclusion as follows:

Main tiddler code:
<$button>
<$action-createtiddler $basetitle="$:/TLS/new-id" $overwrite="yes" />
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/TLS/new-id" uniqueid={{$:/TLS/uniqueid}} />
/>
Add


:$/TLS/uniueid tiddler code:
{{$:/TLS/idcode}}{{$:/TLS/incremental}}

which displays as YB27 when the idcode is YB and the incremental is 27

in the main tiddler, if the action-setfield sets the text field, then the 
value inserted is the transclusion of the uniqueid tiddler, namely, YB27

if the maiin tiddler action-setfield code tries to set a field, then the 
field's contents after actioning the code 
is {{$:/TLS/idcode}}{{$:/TLS/incremental}} and not the transcluded value

Anybody else found this?

bobj

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[tw5] Re: A beautiful post that describes the Joy of Tiddlywiki

2020-09-12 Thread TW Tones
Add to commenting Discus and others

Bimlas created a few.

Tones

On Sunday, 13 September 2020 05:23:00 UTC+10, talha131 wrote:
>
> Thank you Donald for sharing it. It's eloquent.
>
> Besides the other links that you and Tones have shared, there is also 
> https://webmention.net/, which can partially replace the established 
> comments system.
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[tw5] Re: Help wanted: Distributing keyboard shortcuts

2020-09-12 Thread TW Tones
Mario,

Thanks, I have reviewed and will further. This also defines an editor 
toolbar button, I see no harm in that, but I was planning a shortcut with 
no editorToolbar button, but works in the editor. 

Looks like I need to do one of my documented research efforts.

Thanks
Tones



On Sunday, 13 September 2020 07:30:56 UTC+10, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi, 
>
> You can have a closer look at: 
> https://github.com/wikilabs/plugins/tree/master/wikilabs/tick-text/tiddlers 
> especially dirs editor/toolbar and config
>
> -m
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Re: [tw5] Re: How to use TiddlyWiki API in BoxLinux version

2020-09-12 Thread s.kaczmarek
Take care Jed and thank you. I will experiment with what you provided and
get back to you once you feel better.

sob., 12 wrz 2020 o 11:56 Ste  napisał(a):

> :( get well soon Jed
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[tw5] Re: Resource: Mohammad's Wikis

2020-09-12 Thread talha131
That's a useful list. Thanks for it.

The URL for Shiraz needs an update. It's current URL is

https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/

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[tw5] Re: How many of you use core TiddlyWIki?

2020-09-12 Thread Birthe C
Hi Ed,

Thank you for your post. I have often thought about if tiddlywiki could 
have a use for exactly the kind of problem you describe so well. So glad 
you are able to use your wiki for something so important.

Please do not misunderstand the following! Maybe we should all have a wiki 
like Eds wiki. We know nothing about our own tomorrow, things happen...and 
if we are lucky, we get older and forget more and at the same time loose a 
lot of the people we used to share our memories with.

A wiki to help remember what we cannot remember without - and to be 
ourselves more (clumpsy way to put it, I know).


Birthe


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[tw5] Re: Javascript Human Friendly Date Parser?

2020-09-12 Thread amreus
Thanks I'll read it.

On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 5:23:12 PM UTC-4, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi, 
>
> This thread may be of interest. 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/Kyw0LMSRdj4
>
> -mario
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[tw5] Re: Javascript Human Friendly Date Parser?

2020-09-12 Thread amreus
I'm using a phrase that is used by some of the authors of the libraries. 
You'll have to ask them the question.


On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 5:26:58 PM UTC-4 PMario wrote:

> On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 8:44:00 PM UTC+2, amreus wrote:
>
> Thanks for the list.  A better phrase would have been "natural language" 
>> date parser.
>>
>
> That's interesting. How many "natural languages" does it support?
>
> -m
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[tw5] Re: Help wanted: Distributing keyboard shortcuts

2020-09-12 Thread PMario
Hi, 

You can have a closer look at: 
https://github.com/wikilabs/plugins/tree/master/wikilabs/tick-text/tiddlers 
especially dirs editor/toolbar and config

-m

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[tw5] Re: Javascript Human Friendly Date Parser?

2020-09-12 Thread PMario
On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 8:44:00 PM UTC+2, amreus wrote:

Thanks for the list.  A better phrase would have been "natural language" 
> date parser.
>

That's interesting. How many "natural languages" does it support?

-m

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[tw5] Re: Javascript Human Friendly Date Parser?

2020-09-12 Thread PMario
Hi, 

This thread may be of interest. 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/Kyw0LMSRdj4

-mario

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[tw5] Re: Javascript Human Friendly Date Parser?

2020-09-12 Thread amreus
I've tried that date picker - it jumps back a day due after selecting the 
date. But not always.  From what I  gather it has to do with the timezone 
and TiddlyWiki dates being UTC. 

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[tw5] Re: A beautiful post that describes the Joy of Tiddlywiki

2020-09-12 Thread talha131
Thank you Donald for sharing it. It's eloquent.

Besides the other links that you and Tones have shared, there is also 
https://webmention.net/, which can partially replace the established 
comments system.

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[tw5] Re: Javascript Human Friendly Date Parser?

2020-09-12 Thread Saq Imtiaz
Here is a datepicker plugin that you can use:
https://kixam.github.io/TW5-datePicker/

I would say that while greater support for dates as perhaps an official 
plugin would be welcome, natural language parsing of dates isn't a common 
enough use case to justify consideration for the core. The core is always a 
balancing act between utility and size.

My work on natural language date parsing isn't published anywhere online, 
and it's honestly too raw and incomplete to share. I was aiming to emulate 
the way Todoist.com handles dates and there is still some way to go.

On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 8:44:00 PM UTC+2, amreus wrote:
>
> Saq,
>
> Thanks for the list.  A better phrase would have been "natural language" 
> date parser.
>
> Dates in TiddlyWiki appear to be under-supported.  Would you agree, or am 
> I missing something?  I know about the 3 Date filter operators.  But there 
> seems to be a gap between the date storage format and the ability to enter 
> dates in a convenient way. I have not even found a proper working date/time 
> picker, which should come built-in imo.  
>
> I don't even know where to start.  Do you have a github or anything I 
> could browse for clues?
>
> Thank you.
>
> On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 1:19:32 PM UTC-4 saq.i...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Here is a list of JavaScript data parser libaries that I compiled a while 
>> back (so it may be out of date):
>>
>>- https://sugarjs.com/dates/
>>- https://github.com/holistics/js/tree/master/packages/date-parser
>>- https://github.com/wanasit/chrono
>>- https://github.com/datejs/Datejs
>>- https://github.com/juttle/moment-parser
>>
>> My use case was very similar to yours. Ultimately I wasn't happy with any 
>> of the existing options and rolled my own, which sadly isn't in a state to 
>> be shared any time soon.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Saq
>>
>

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[tw5] Tiddlywiki Static --render command and "tv-get-export-link/path"

2020-09-12 Thread Adithya B
Hi!

I have been using the tiddlywiki --rendertiddlers command to render the 
tiddlers for my static website. Since the --rendertiddlers is depreciated 
in favour of --render, I have been trying to make the transition as well. 

However, the render command doesnt encode the filenames using 
tv-get-export-link or tv-get-export-path by default. The internal links are 
still getting encoded properly.

This works perfectly:
tiddlywiki --rendertiddlers '[!is[system]]' adithyab/website/base . 
text/plain

This doesnt format the filenames at all:
tiddlywiki --render "[!is[system]]" "[is[tiddler]addsuffix[.html]]" 
text/plain adithyab/website/base

How to get the --render command to use the tv-get-export-path/link macros?
Thanks for helping.
Adithya

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[tw5] Re: Javascript Human Friendly Date Parser?

2020-09-12 Thread amreus
Saq,

Thanks for the list.  A better phrase would have been "natural language" 
date parser.

Dates in TiddlyWiki appear to be under-supported.  Would you agree, or am I 
missing something?  I know about the 3 Date filter operators.  But there 
seems to be a gap between the date storage format and the ability to enter 
dates in a convenient way. I have not even found a proper working date/time 
picker, which should come built-in imo.  

I don't even know where to start.  Do you have a github or anything I could 
browse for clues?

Thank you.

On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 1:19:32 PM UTC-4 saq.i...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Here is a list of JavaScript data parser libaries that I compiled a while 
> back (so it may be out of date):
>
>- https://sugarjs.com/dates/
>- https://github.com/holistics/js/tree/master/packages/date-parser
>- https://github.com/wanasit/chrono
>- https://github.com/datejs/Datejs
>- https://github.com/juttle/moment-parser
>
> My use case was very similar to yours. Ultimately I wasn't happy with any 
> of the existing options and rolled my own, which sadly isn't in a state to 
> be shared any time soon.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Saq
>

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[tw5] Add new types to TiddlyWiki editor (Short explanation)

2020-09-12 Thread talha131


TiddlyWiki Editors shows content type selector. It lets you set tiddler 
type to an image like image/png or a text type like text/x-markdown.

To add a new type which is not present in the core like video/mp4 or 
image/webp.

   1. Create a new tiddler 
   2. Name it $:/language/Docs/Types/video/mp4 
   3. Set the fields of the tiddler 


   - description: MP4 
   - group: video 
   - name: video/mp4 
   - group-sort: 3 

Setting group-sort to 3 will make the group appear at the bottom.
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[tw5] Re: How many of you use core TiddlyWIki?

2020-09-12 Thread Ed Dixon
I too try to stay with the core as much as possible. I agree with Talha131 
on this as it does describe my situation here pretty well. 

I no longer have the capacity to make extensive changes or adjust things 
for many of the awesome addons being produced to my needs due to brain 
damage but I do appreciate the hard work that goes into them. However prior 
to the brain surgeries, I used a lot of them and some became staples that I 
still find I can not get by with out.  I am using this primarially as a 
daily journal, photo album, and as a way to get memories back that were 
lost to me in all this. Some of those life defining moments were extreemly 
special to me and it us amazing to me that they were lost ever! Now that I 
have them again I am so thankful I even made the attempt (for me this was 
not easy). It has proven to be very useful in so many ways towards that 
goal! 

A simple calendar and a way to create visual links and time lines are all 
that I really add. Tobias Calendar and Felix's tiddlymap along with the now 
included jounal which has been added to the core (so greatful for that!) 
are what I use so just those 2 plugins for me but, they are very essential 
to what I am doing specificly. Tiddlymap because it allows me to see 
realtionships visually and helps me understand how alot of these moments 
and memories link together. You can not remember what you have forgotten is 
such an understatment when they really are gone but, for me when I see 
those breaks in the chain sometimes my mind will bring those memories back 
which leads to even many more related to that one back. I have always had a 
huge appreciation for tiddlymap but so much more so now! THANK YOU FELIX!). 
It also helps me keep an eye on my own thought processes when used with the 
daily journal so if an issue is identified that I was not aware of, I can 
see it and work on it with my providers. I originally got involved with 
TiddlyWiki5 when I was teaching and used Tiddlymap for mind mapping prior 
to this so using that managed to stick. 

I am pretty sure we all have special use cases that require some 
customizations and plugins (even I do so thats a pretty safe bet) but if it 
were possible to have all that capability I definitly wouldn't want to add 
anything not essential to my needs. I know I am missing out on a lot of 
added new functiionality even from the core that could potentially help me 
like backlinks and other things I have been reading about here on the 
forums that sound so exciting and I could definitly use a calendar with a 
bit more funcitonality (such as adding links to the date cells from the 
daily jounals so I can see when an entry was made) but I have to keep it 
simple. The simpler the better and I can always look at the history to get 
to those prior entries.

To me this is the beauty of Jerrmey's creation here, the flexability 
provided and I know he always has one eye on that as he works towards 
trying to make it meet as many use cases as possible while not breaking 
backwards comaptability or of course the core itself LOL. It is truly a 
work of art as much as anything else! 

So in short No but would love too!

On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 5:37:57 AM UTC-5 talha131 wrote:

> I  use the TW core version. 
>
> I also try to make sure I use as little third party plugins as possible. 
> Right now, I only have the ReLink plugin that is not in the core. Other 
> plugins like Katex and Highlight are in the core.
>
> You do not have to worry about a TW edition's lack of upgrades because it 
> will not stop working. The real issue is the bugs. If an edition is 
> bug-free and suits your needs, then you should use it.
>
> My motivation for using the core is to learn the customization process so 
> that down the line, I can create my personal TiddlyWiki edition. 
>

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[tw5] Re: How to do transclsion in raw HTML?

2020-09-12 Thread Saq Imtiaz
No worries, glad it helped.

On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 7:27:34 PM UTC+2, talha131 wrote:
>
> Thank you Saq. Now it’s clear, and I am so sorry for wasting your time. I 
> should have picked the hint from your first answer.
>
> This worked.
>
> 
>  type="video/mp4">
>
> ​
>

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[tw5] Re: How to do transclsion in raw HTML?

2020-09-12 Thread talha131


Thank you Saq. Now it’s clear, and I am so sorry for wasting your time. I 
should have picked the hint from your first answer.

This worked.




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[tw5] Re: How to do transclsion in raw HTML?

2020-09-12 Thread Saq Imtiaz
Assuming you saved the video location in a _canonical_uri field, try the 
form:

attr={{tiddler!!field}}


On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 7:09:15 PM UTC+2, talha131 wrote:
>
> Thank you Saq. I read the doc you linked to.
>
> I tried 
>
> {{Test Video}}
>
> It embeds the video into the tiddler.
>
> But when I tried using {{}} in raw HTML as described in Transcluded 
> Attribute Values, it did not work.
>
> 
>  type="video/mp4">
>
> The HTML it generates is
>
>  
> 
>
> As you can see the src value is empty.
> ​
>

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[tw5] Re: Javascript Human Friendly Date Parser?

2020-09-12 Thread Saq Imtiaz
Here is a list of JavaScript data parser libaries that I compiled a while 
back (so it may be out of date):

   - https://sugarjs.com/dates/
   - https://github.com/holistics/js/tree/master/packages/date-parser
   - https://github.com/wanasit/chrono
   - https://github.com/datejs/Datejs
   - https://github.com/juttle/moment-parser
   
My use case was very similar to yours. Ultimately I wasn't happy with any 
of the existing options and rolled my own, which sadly isn't in a state to 
be shared any time soon.

Hope this helps,
Saq

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[tw5] Re: How to do transclsion in raw HTML?

2020-09-12 Thread talha131


Thank you Saq. I read the doc you linked to.

I tried 

{{Test Video}}

It embeds the video into the tiddler.

But when I tried using {{}} in raw HTML as described in Transcluded 
Attribute Values, it did not work.




The HTML it generates is

 


As you can see the src value is empty.
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[tw5] Re: How to do transclsion in raw HTML?

2020-09-12 Thread Saq Imtiaz
Please see the section on "Transcluded Attribute Values" at 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#HTML%20in%20WikiText

On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 6:19:48 PM UTC+2, talha131 wrote:
>
> I added a video to the TW using _canonical_url.
>
> Now I want to link to that video in a tiddler body. 
>
> When it is images, the following syntax works
>
> [img[ImageTiddler]]
>
> But to embed video, I have to use raw HTML
>
> 
>  type="video/mp4">
>
> This does not work.
>
> So how do I transclude the video tiddler inside src attribute?
> ​
>

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[tw5] How to do transclsion in raw HTML?

2020-09-12 Thread talha131


I added a video to the TW using _canonical_url.

Now I want to link to that video in a tiddler body. 

When it is images, the following syntax works

[img[ImageTiddler]]

But to embed video, I have to use raw HTML




This does not work.

So how do I transclude the video tiddler inside src attribute?
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[tw5] Javascript Human Friendly Date Parser?

2020-09-12 Thread amreus

Ruby has this great library called Chronic that parses strings into Ruby 
Date objects. It handles date strings that are human friendly as well as in 
rigid formats.

You can see some usage examples here: https://github.com/mojombo/chronic

Has anyone already made such a parser for TiddyWiki5? Does anyone know if a 
similar library exists for Javascript which could be used?

Why?  I have a textbox for rapid list item entry.  Instead of picking a 
due-date for example, I just want to include the due-date as part of the 
text and have a macro parse it out from the title and add it as a date 
field. An example entry in my textbox might look like this:

Schedule a fire system test due:"oct 1 8am"

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[tw5] Re: [Tiddly Research] Public release

2020-09-12 Thread SizzlinSJ
This is great, thanks for integrating plugins and scripts which I dont feel 
i couldve ever done it. 
I really like the Krystal, integration of streams, crosslink etc. and the 
toggle sidebar(menu) button 
The only thing i miss is Autocomplete which i think you are working on

Request: Can you make the unlinked links highlight like they are when using 
Freelinks Plugin?

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[tw5] Re: Does the Edittemplate tag eat a lot of resource of computer?

2020-09-12 Thread Eric Shulman
On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 7:04:59 AM UTC-7, Zhe Lee wrote:
>
> Here is the thing, I use a template to add a button to every tiddler. The 
> thing is I don't use the button that much but still use it sometimes. 
> I want to know is the EditTemplate tag like this will eat a lot of 
> resource of computer and finally slow down the responding of the 
> TiddlyWiki? Should I delete the template tiddler if I don't use the 
> template that much?  
>

It doesn't take a lot of overhead to render the $button, even if it added 
to every tiddler.  This is especially true since it is added to the 
EditTemplate, as there is usually only one tiddler (or perhaps a few 
tiddlers) being edited at any given moment.

Even so, there is a way you can reduce the overhead even further by using 
the $button actions="..." parameter, like this:

\define doCreate()
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title="This is newly created 
tiddler" tags={{!!tags}} text=<> />
\end
<$button actions=<>>Copy Current Tags and Create
When you use this syntax, the doCreate() macro is only processed when the 
$button is actually pressed.

Note that this also causes the <> macro used to generate the new 
tiddler's text to only be invoked when the $button is pressed.  This 
produces a subtle but somewhat important difference in the resulting 
tiddler's content.
For example, if you were to start editing a tiddler just before midnight, 
but not press the button until after midnight, the date written into the 
tiddler text will accurately record when the $button is pressed, not when 
it was initially rendered.

enjoy,
-e

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[tw5] Re: Change the transclusion view template

2020-09-12 Thread PMario
Hi,
You can use a template. https://tiddlywiki.com/#Transclusion%20in%20WikiText
Your template can contain whatever you want. Eg. {{!!title}} {{!!field 
name}} and so on. 
-m

On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 2:39:51 PM UTC+2, kebi wrote:
>
> Hello guys,
>
> Is there a way I can modify the viewtemplate of a transcluded tiddler? or 
> maybe is there a plugin that can be used instead of the basic transclusion?
> I need to include more than just the body text of a tiddler in the 
> transclusion.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>

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[tw5] Re: Does the Edittemplate tag eat a lot of resource of computer?

2020-09-12 Thread PMario
Hi,
There shouldn't be a problem. 
-m

On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 4:04:59 PM UTC+2 imleg...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Here is the thing, I use a template to add a button to every tiddler. The 
> thing is I don't use the button that much but still use it sometimes. 
>
> I want to know is the EditTemplate tag like this will eat a lot of 
> resource of computer and finally slow down the responding of the 
> TiddlyWiki? Should I delete the template tiddler if I don't use the 
> template that much?  
>
>
>

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[tw5] Does the Edittemplate tag eat a lot of resource of computer?

2020-09-12 Thread Zhe Lee
Here is the thing, I use a template to add a button to every tiddler. The 
thing is I don't use the button that much but still use it sometimes. 

I want to know is the EditTemplate tag like this will eat a lot of resource 
of computer and finally slow down the responding of the TiddlyWiki? Should 
I delete the template tiddler if I don't use the template that much?  


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Re: [tw5] Re: Simple Wikitext Syntax Highlighting

2020-09-12 Thread Adithya B
@PMario

I am trying to extend the editor functionality further 
(here: https://github.com/adithya-badidey/TW5-codemirror-plus) but most of 
the code in the TW repository is minified.
For example:
- 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/files/addon/selection/activeline.js
- 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror-closebrackets/files/addon/edit/matchbrackets.js

Where can I find the non-minified code for all the TW addons for CodeMirror?

Cheers,
Adithya

On Thursday, August 20, 2020 at 5:17:28 PM UTC+5:30 JD wrote:

> Thank you! I'll file these feature requests there ^^,
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 16:26 Adithya B,  wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the suggestions and enthusiasm :)
>>
>> I am too a bit rusty with javascript but am gaining confidence as I work 
>> on this more.
>>
>> I just fixed this today (check the latest version on 
>> adithyab.tiddlyspot.com):
>> ```
>> monospace me, too?
>> ```
>>
>> Do you use github? It would help if you can start filing these on the 
>> github repo.
>> https://github.com/adithya-badidey/TW5-codemirror-plus
>>
>> I will use that to chip through these slowly.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Adithya
>>
>> On Thursday, August 20, 2020 at 8:22:49 AM UTC+5:30 JD wrote:
>>
>>> Adithya! This is wonderful, especially for people like me who want the 
>>> tiniest degree of separation between View and Edit modes!
>>>
>>> Some things I hope you can add:
>>>
>>> \define macroMe(name:"teacup")
 I'm a little $name$
 \end
>>>
>>>
>>> Can macro definitions have a certain color, and the macro name to be 
>>> bold? For example, I wish this whole block to be <>> muted-foreground>>, where $name$ is highlighted in another color, maybe 
>>> <>, sample:
>>>
>>> \define *macroMe*(name:"teacup")
 I'm a little $*name*$
 \end
>>>
>>>  
>>> As an extension to this thought: can I target this whole text block in 
>>> CSS? This is a desirable workflow for me: on mouse-hover, this whole block 
>>> of text is very visible, to allow no room for mistakes while editing. Then 
>>> with no mouse hover, it assumes the coloring as stated above, or maybe even 
>>> just a lighter opacity (I can do this with CSS of course, if it's a class 
>>> that can be *exposed *to me)
>>>
>>> //ddf//
  __underline__
   ~~strikethrough~~ 
>>>
>>> And some sup^^s^^ and sub,,s,, because I write like this sometimes
>>>
>>>
>>> I hope you can add the above in the future, especially the *//Italics//*, 
>>> __*underlines*__, and ~~strike-throughs~~! (no google groups formatting 
>>> for strikethroughs, so I can't show the visualization)!
>>>  
>>>
 <>
 <>
>>>
>>>
>>> Like [[*]] and {{*}}, can <<* "">> have a color? And within it, can 
>>> strings starting and ending with* "* also be styled? Sample:
>>>
>>>  <>
>>>
>>> <>
>>>
>>>
>>> For strings inside back-ticks, 
>>>
>>> `monospace me, and color <>?` 
 ```
 monospace me, too?
 ```
>>>
>>>
>>> I've set my CodeMirror font to *NonSerif*, can it be so that strings 
>>> within back-ticks are monospaced, colored <>?
>>>
>>> As for the html links, they're colored already, but can that be extended 
>>> so that maybe clicking on them while CTRL is held down, will result to the 
>>> link opening in another browser tab? Also, I write external links this way 
>>> a lot:
>>>
>>> [[title|http://adithyab.tiddlyspot.com/]]

>>>
>>> can it be treated differently from a normal tiddler [[*]] link ? Sample:
>>>
>>> [[*title*|http://adithyab.tiddlyspot.com/]]
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>> I'm sorry if these are a hassle to include! I am requesting these from 
>>> the perspective of someone going in and out of wikitext and defining 
>>> macros, who need these visual identifiers in the textarea.
>>>
>>> Also from a perspective external to tiddlywiki... In my line of work, 
>>> there is a lot of visual identifiers in "edit mode", before we pass on the 
>>> work to people who will only ever access it in "view mode". This is to help 
>>> us designers in our field to self-correct immediately, reducing the need 
>>> for multiple checks, while the raw form of the work is still exposed to us 
>>> (rarely do we even access the work in "view mode").
>>>
>>> Your CodeMirror extension has the potential to really *mirror* my 
>>> actual non-tiddlywiki work setup, and thus I'm really excited! I hope 
>>> somehow these can be implemented in your future plugin. If not, I wish you 
>>> can provide tutorials so I can personally extend the features (I have 
>>> totally no idea how to JS)
>>>
>>> Thanks for this, really! It has so much potential! 
>>>
>>> -jd
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 19, 2020 at 11:46:27 PM UTC+9, Adithya B wrote:

 Hi Mario,

 Thanks for the help.

 I have been able to get it working in TW5!
 I have created a new project here: 
 https://github.com/adithya-badidey/TW5-codemirror-plus to start 
 working on it.

 JD and others, can you try it out a

[tw5] Change the transclusion view template

2020-09-12 Thread kebi
Hello guys,

Is there a way I can modify the viewtemplate of a transcluded tiddler? or 
maybe is there a plugin that can be used instead of the basic transclusion?
I need to include more than just the body text of a tiddler in the 
transclusion.

Thanks in advance!

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[tw5] Re: Help wanted: Distributing keyboard shortcuts

2020-09-12 Thread kebi
Hello Tony,

In my distribution I packaged all the shortcuts I needed in a single 
plugin, like this: 
https://kebifurai.github.io/TiddlyResearch/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fkebi%2Ftiddlyresearch-shortcuts

I know this is not the best way since it can overwrite other users custom 
shortcuts, but I haven't found any other way yet.

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[tw5] Re: How many of you use core TiddlyWIki?

2020-09-12 Thread talha131
I  use the TW core version. 

I also try to make sure I use as little third party plugins as possible. 
Right now, I only have the ReLink plugin that is not in the core. Other 
plugins like Katex and Highlight are in the core.

You do not have to worry about a TW edition's lack of upgrades because it 
will not stop working. The real issue is the bugs. If an edition is 
bug-free and suits your needs, then you should use it.

My motivation for using the core is to learn the customization process so 
that down the line, I can create my personal TiddlyWiki edition. 

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[tw5] Re: How to use TiddlyWiki API in BoxLinux version

2020-09-12 Thread Ste
:( get well soon Jed

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[tw5] Re: New TiddlyTools time feature: **Interactive Calendar**

2020-09-12 Thread Eric Shulman


On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 12:34:38 AM UTC-7, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 10:31:15 PM UTC-7, TW Tones wrote:
>>
>> Thanks so much for this extensive solution. 
>> As a thank you please accept this unpublished solution. called "Package".
>>
>
> Thanks for this.  It's a nice bit of kit.
>
> However, instead of installing your entire "Package" utility, I just used 
> the same $button technique in TiddlyTools/Timer/Info, like this:
> To import these tiddlers,
> <$button dragFilter="[prefix[TiddlyTools/Timer]] [prefix[Sample]]" 
> class="tc-btn-invisible 
> tc-tiddlylink">
>drag this link
> 
> into your own ~TiddlyWiki.
>
> -e
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] Tiddly Mail

2020-09-12 Thread Ste
Is this a trick question? :)
It would be interesting.. Amazing... Different? 

I don't think it exists but if your about to reveal it...?! 

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[tw5] Tiddly Mail

2020-09-12 Thread Анатолий Мизгирёв
What is java mail client which display posts as tiddlys...

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[tw5] Re: New TiddlyTools time feature: **Interactive Calendar**

2020-09-12 Thread Birthe C
I love that the calendar works so well with the language plugin.

Birthe

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[tw5] Re: How many of you use core TiddlyWIki?

2020-09-12 Thread PMario
On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 10:27:58 PM UTC+2, Thomas Elmiger wrote:

On the other hand: When you have built a solution that works for you, you 
> don’t *have* to upgrade. A TiddlyWiki can work for decades without any 
> updates.
>

+1 That's the point. If you don't need the new functionality, and you are 
happy with your version, why change it? 

TW *ControlPanel : Info : Basic* tab has some info about tiddlers the wiki 
contains. 

The last one: *Number of overridden shadow tiddlers*: is what you need to 
have a closer look at. If you click the link, it will open all tiddlers 
that you changed from the core or from plugins. 

If you want to try a new core version you'll have to have a closer look to 
them. That's basically it. 

--

Tiddlywiki versions are "hard to kill". If you have a look at: 
https://classic.tiddlywiki.com/archive/firstversion.html you'll see the 
very first TWclassic version. It's from 2004 and it still works. .. I would 
like to see a MS Word document from 2004 opened in a recent computer. 

There is a 2nd Version 
 too ;)

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] Re: New TiddlyTools time feature: **Interactive Calendar**

2020-09-12 Thread Eric Shulman
On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 10:31:15 PM UTC-7, TW Tones wrote:
>
> Thanks so much for this extensive solution. 
> As a thank you please accept this unpublished solution. called "Package".
>

Thanks for this.  It's a nice bit of kit.

However, instead of installing your entire "Package" utility, I just used 
the same technique in TiddlyTools/Timer/Info, like this:
To import these tiddlers,
<$button dragFilter="[prefix[TiddlyTools/Timer]] [prefix[Sample]]" 
class="tc-btn-invisible 
tc-tiddlylink">
   drag this link

into your own ~TiddlyWiki.

-e



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