[tw5] Re: Complicated Design Questions, Json Editing, and Gui features

[Tiddly Novice]

Json is...I'm honestly not sure if it's required or not. I only mentioned 
it because I got the idea for easy editing while looking at the examples 
for the Json Editor Plug-in. But as I'm starting to remember TW, I'm slowly 
starting to realize it might not be needed. I'm still figuring that out.
Meanwhile, I've been making some attempts at creating a test wiki to see 
where my concept's flaws were and I figured out an important detail. It is 
likely a very bad idea to design a system such that, in order to make 
corrections/improvements/upgraded versions of templates/structures, you 
would edit a defining structure for tiddlers when there are already 
tiddlers using it. I shouldn't mess with the original template file, 
instead I should make a new version of the template and migrate the data 
that was using the old version over to it. That realization has a pretty 
big impact on my intended system design.


On Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 1:27:06 PM UTC-8 Mark S. wrote:

>
> I'm afraid I don't quite understand the flow chart.
>
> But here ...
>
>  I wondered if there might be a way to dodge having to deal with wikitext 
>> all the time and just make templates with editable fields. But then I 
>> realized I didn't really want the fields to look editable all the time 
>> since, for one thing, that tends to take up more space.
>>
>
>  you could either have your editable template fields hidden/displayed by a 
> button, or you could have a main configuration tiddler that would be used 
> to determine if the editable fields were displayed or not.
>
> I'm not sure why the JSON editor would be required, but perhaps your 
> character data is already in JSON format??
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Is there a plugin for live edit in view mode?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Maybe look at

https://marxsal.github.io/various/notowritey.html

paragraphs are broken into tiddlers. Or you can designate some other 
preferred way to chop up your working tiddlers. When things get too chopped 
up, you can use the tools to put together the wiktext again. Rinse, repeat.

Hmm. Don't think it auto-saves. So you do have to remember to click from 
time to time.


On Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 1:38:00 PM UTC-8, V wrote:
>
> Hi there.
> I recently discovered TiddleWiki with NoteSelf extension for syncing to my 
> remote DB server.
>
> But what I really miss is the ability to write long articles like I can in 
> Google Docs, Joplin or any similar apps — with live edit and autosaving.
>
> Currently If I want to write a long text, or to work with existing long 
> text (e.g. add some paragraphs in the middle, or correct spelling), I need 
> to scroll a lot. Especially it's a nightmare on mobile.
>
> I would add *contenteditable *feauture, at least for simple work with 
> text (if advanced feautures needed, It's ok to go to edit-mode).
>
> If there are some plugins working with latest 5.1.22 and actively 
> maintained, please tell me. Or if you have plans to do it in the futher 
> versions.
>
> Thanks.
>
>

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[tw5] Re: What is the science of thinking?

[TW Tones]

Charlie,

Perhaps it would help if I say I do understand your ideas most of the time 
and value them, I also find some challenging me and in return sometimes I 
want to challenge you. Also to reassure you this thing you call 
intertwingularity is similar to a range of philosophical and religious 
ideas that I too have taken interest in. I took a learning interest in 
Buddhism and they speak of the interconnectedness of all things, and "there 
was no original cause"  meaning all things are caused by others. I have no 
doubt you have original ideas, perhaps as yet unnamed by others, and most 
definitely original to you as you explore the universe, but you may be 
surprised to learn you are not on your own with such thoughts, that in fact 
you belong to a larger cohort than you think.

Keep the conversation going, and please don't take offence.

I personally favour taking an egoless approach to design and review of code 
and ideas. https://medium.com/@charlesrt/egoless-design-fe91dea51e25

Thanks for being a big contributor in the community.

TonyM/Tones

On Monday, 2 November 2020 03:04:31 UTC+11, Charlie Veniot wrote:
>
>
>  
>>
>>> From me (Charlie
>>> Aside from having ADHD (attention subtype), I have this strange 
>>> cognitive issue in which I cannot see any one thing without all 
>>> interconnected things (at however many degrees of separation) related to 
>>> that one simple thing.   That makes it really difficult for me to discuss 
>>> something in isolation without the context of all things connected.  So I 
>>> have a lifetime of always dealing with complexity, always seeing everything 
>>> as intertwingled, and always coming up with quick solutions and waiting for 
>>> everybody else to catch up because I've processed so many frigging details 
>>> that nobody else has processed.
>>>
>> From Tones
>>
> Here you are saying you are ahead of us all! That you deserve some 
>> exceptionalism? What do you know about me and my relationship to 
>> complexity? Is a diversity of views they most important thing here.
>>
>
> Ah crap.  No, that was piss-poorly worded by me.
>
> A lifetime struggle of trying to take the intertwingled mess in my head 
> and trying to sort it out and keep it short, and that's a regular/recurring 
> fail on my part.
>
> Seeing everything as interconnected/intertwined/intertwingled, and feeling 
> so different from everybody my whole life because of it, I've come to see 
> it as me being cognitively flawed.  A weakness. Something that makes me 
> broken vis-à-vis everybody else, as in I don't fit in this world.  Hardly 
> something that makes me better than anybody.
>
> To compensate for that broken feeling, I try to think that a greatest 
> weakness can be a greatest strength.  It makes me feel better about myself.
>
> I was trying to express where my obviously unorthodox way of thinking 
> comes from, and to express that I try to see my flaw (seeing everything 
> connected) as a strength, and that "strength", just as my experiences, are 
> just things that shape my perspectives, not things that make me better than 
> anybody else.  Maybe perspective in context is useful.
>
> All of that just in the hopes that folk can understand my perspective 
> (agree or disagree, both are A-1;  just like any perspective you may have, 
> it is based on your own experience, so your perspective is just as valuable 
> as mine in conversations.)
>
> Expressing my own perspective is always in the hope of connecting someday 
> with somebody who may understand what I'm trying to convey, and maybe find 
> a better way to explain it back to me, because I struggle to find the words 
> to explain what I think.
>

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[tw5] Is there a plugin for live edit in view mode?

[V]

Hi there.
I recently discovered TiddleWiki with NoteSelf extension for syncing to my 
remote DB server.

But what I really miss is the ability to write long articles like I can in 
Google Docs, Joplin or any similar apps — with live edit and autosaving.

Currently If I want to write a long text, or to work with existing long 
text (e.g. add some paragraphs in the middle, or correct spelling), I need 
to scroll a lot. Especially it's a nightmare on mobile.

I would add *contenteditable *feauture, at least for simple work with text 
(if advanced feautures needed, It's ok to go to edit-mode).

If there are some plugins working with latest 5.1.22 and actively 
maintained, please tell me. Or if you have plans to do it in the futher 
versions.

Thanks.

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[tw5] Re: Complicated Design Questions, Json Editing, and Gui features

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I'm afraid I don't quite understand the flow chart.

But here ...

 I wondered if there might be a way to dodge having to deal with wikitext 
> all the time and just make templates with editable fields. But then I 
> realized I didn't really want the fields to look editable all the time 
> since, for one thing, that tends to take up more space.
>

 you could either have your editable template fields hidden/displayed by a 
button, or you could have a main configuration tiddler that would be used 
to determine if the editable fields were displayed or not.

I'm not sure why the JSON editor would be required, but perhaps your 
character data is already in JSON format??


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[tw5] Complicated Design Questions, Json Editing, and Gui features

[Tiddly Novice]

I apologize for using pictures to explain this, but I've no idea what the 
right words are. I was looking at the examples for the Json Editor plug-in, 
when I wondered if there might be a way to dodge having to deal with 
wikitext all the time and just make templates with editable fields. But 
then I realized I didn't really want the fields to look editable all the 
time since, for one thing, that tends to take up more space. So, after some 
thinking, I came up with a kind of template flowchart since I couldn't 
write a good explanation for what I decided I wanted to do and how I wanted 
to design a TW for tracking my story writing stuff. The arrows indicate 
which tiddler is using which as some kind of reference. Does it make sense? 
(I can try to explain more if asked, but it will probably take a lot of 
words.)

The main question I have right now is: is it even possible to use common 
gui design features (textboxes, drop-down menus, color picker buttons, etc) 
as part of a process of editing a data tiddler (separate from the tiddler 
that is displaying the gui stuff, of course, since tiddlers can't 
self-edit. I think?) *without* the Json Editor Plug-in? (Since that plug-in 
is no longer being updated)

I will need the gui features in order to make the Value-of-Fields Editing 
Tiddler Template I'm hoping to use. I'm probably misusing terminology 
somewhere, but hopefully I'm close enough to be understood. I'm relearning 
TW after years of not using it, so forgive my ignorance. Also, all the 
current global events have worn my mental state ragged (hence why I once 
again need a TW outside my head to keep track of things), so forgive me if 
I've overlooked something obvious.

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[tw5] TW5 for the ClassicTW User

[Alvin]

I know ClassicTW pretty well, but—from what I've seen so far—TW5 is a 
different animal. I'm sure this is answered somewhere in this Group, but I 
can't find it. I'm looking for documentation or a tutorial that will get me 
up to speed understanding the difference between ClassicTW and TW5.  Thank 
you.

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Re: [tw5] Re: Preview: RapidTiddler

[V]

How it goes? I'm looking for smth like inline editor and seems like you 
were going to do it.


среда, 24 июня 2020 г. в 02:55:50 UTC+3, TW Tones: 

> Michael,
>
> Nice work. I can see this combined with other prior methods and the recent 
> command 
> pallet 
>  a 
> tiddlywiki user/designer could become a "speed machine" building content.
>
> Thanks
> Tony
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 7:49:48 AM UTC+10, Michael Arndt wrote:
>
>> Hi Tony
>>
>> > Given your one line example in the video makes me ask can we use this 
>> to edit fields as well?, it would be great to be able to build a list field 
>> if tiddler titles from keyboard entry, as you example does (without the 
>> additional text). People could use it to build a list of tiddlers that want 
>> to include in an export from memory.
>> That should be possible and single line is my goal. However CodeMirror 
>> doesn’t support that out of the box, it should work with some code though. 
>>
>
>>>- Could re enter a filter to select more than one title?
>>>
>>> You mean a list of Tiddlers? That would be a different mode in CM terms, 
>> and each auto-complete invocation would likely only give a list where the 
>> user can choose one entry. That is done in JS so if you know likely 
>> combinations you could include that in the list. 
>>
>>>
>>>- Could we allow transclusions rather than links to be placed in the 
>>>text (Perhaps not transcluding in your view editor)?
>>>
>>> great idea, I just implemented that today. (See /todo). Once rendered 
>> the transclusions are not updated til something triggers a re-render 
>> though. And I needed to edit the CM plugin a bit. 
>>
>>>
>>>- Could we provide an additional list or filter to the predictive 
>>>process such as a list of macronames that the predictive text would 
>>> insert 
>>><>  (Perhaps not rendering in your view editor)?
>>>
>>> yes
>>
>>>
>>>- 
>>>- Perhaps the ability to toggle if transclusions or macros are 
>>>rendered in this view/update mode.
>>>
>>> not sure about that one. Would need some control to do that and wire 
>> that up wir the CM instance. Need to look further how that might work 
>> (first time TW and first time CM user here 😅)
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your interest!
>> Michael 
>>
>
>>>- 
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 12:09:04 AM UTC+10, Michael Arndt wrote:

 Hi, I'm new to TiddlyWiki. However, I missed something for very quickly 
 writing something down, so I played around a bit with the API and 
 CodeMirror.
 What do you think?

 https://youtu.be/Y0_eJ-5hE5s

 Some details: it's a new Mode for CodeMirror and it is used through a 
 template to enable editing directly in view mode. The idea is to have it 
 always editable and always viewed as markup format. The arrows you see in 
 front of the Tiddler links are Codemirror widgets.
 I could imagine adding something like /TODO or similar.

 I think it'll be nice paired with saqimtiaz's streams :)

 Greetings
 Michael

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[tw5] Re: What is the science of thinking?

[Charlie Veniot]

>  
>
>> From me (Charlie
>> Aside from having ADHD (attention subtype), I have this strange cognitive 
>> issue in which I cannot see any one thing without all interconnected things 
>> (at however many degrees of separation) related to that one simple thing.  
>>  That makes it really difficult for me to discuss something in isolation 
>> without the context of all things connected.  So I have a lifetime of 
>> always dealing with complexity, always seeing everything as intertwingled, 
>> and always coming up with quick solutions and waiting for everybody else to 
>> catch up because I've processed so many frigging details that nobody else 
>> has processed.
>>
> From Tones
>
Here you are saying you are ahead of us all! That you deserve some 
> exceptionalism? What do you know about me and my relationship to 
> complexity? Is a diversity of views they most important thing here.
>

Ah crap.  No, that was piss-poorly worded by me.

A lifetime struggle of trying to take the intertwingled mess in my head and 
trying to sort it out and keep it short, and that's a regular/recurring 
fail on my part.

Seeing everything as interconnected/intertwined/intertwingled, and feeling 
so different from everybody my whole life because of it, I've come to see 
it as me being cognitively flawed.  A weakness. Something that makes me 
broken vis-à-vis everybody else, as in I don't fit in this world.  Hardly 
something that makes me better than anybody.

To compensate for that broken feeling, I try to think that a greatest 
weakness can be a greatest strength.  It makes me feel better about myself.

I was trying to express where my obviously unorthodox way of thinking comes 
from, and to express that I try to see my flaw (seeing everything 
connected) as a strength, and that "strength", just as my experiences, are 
just things that shape my perspectives, not things that make me better than 
anybody else.  Maybe perspective in context is useful.

All of that just in the hopes that folk can understand my perspective 
(agree or disagree, both are A-1;  just like any perspective you may have, 
it is based on your own experience, so your perspective is just as valuable 
as mine in conversations.)

Expressing my own perspective is always in the hope of connecting someday 
with somebody who may understand what I'm trying to convey, and maybe find 
a better way to explain it back to me, because I struggle to find the words 
to explain what I think.

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[tw5] Re: geztting the first word/letter of a list of tiddlers

[Eric Shulman]

On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 6:53:17 PM UTC-7, Jean-Pierre Rivière wrote:
>
> Other than a question of taste, or of giving a meaningful name to a 
> complex filter preceding the get operator in my example, it seems that 
> subfilter has no other intterest, isn't it?


As I already noted in a previous reply 
(https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/2P6G5NtUuWA/A3Be4gWcBgAJ)

... if you wanted to have different filters based on a field value, you 
> could write:
> <$set name="F" filter="[{!!setting}match[somevalue]]" value="[somefilter]" 
> emptyValue="[someotherfilter]">
> <$list filter="[subfilter]"/>
> 
> Note in the above example, I've used the "conditional variable assignment" 
> form of $set (see https://tiddlywiki.com/#SetWidget)


-e

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[tw5] Re: geztting the first word/letter of a list of tiddlers

[Thomas Stone]

Can you provide some sample data that shows what the TW filter is doing, 
and then an example of what you would like it to do?

On Wednesday, October 28, 2020 at 1:06:39 AM UTC-7 jn.pierr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Now that I know how to fetch the first letter of a given tiddler title, I 
> am not up to my task alas. Because the bit of code shown to me is unable to 
> permit me to have list of all initial letters with only one of each letter 
> concerned. This means I need to have firsthand all the initial inside my 
> filter, not within a list widget.
>
> And there lays the limit of subfilter: it is not able to do that, although 
> I thought to understand it could. This is the never ending story, or am I 
> so dumb?
>
> Here is my latest code (without letter unification yet):
>
> \define first-char() [split[]first[]]
> \define glossary-entries() [tag[glossaire]subfilter]
> <$list filter=<>> * <$link/>
>
> it returns only the first letter of the first tiddler!
>
> what I want to acheive finally, is generate something like (see that all 
> letters are not there):
>
> [[A]] [[B]] [[C]] [[D]] [[E]] [[F]] [[G]] [[I]] [[L]] [[M]] [[O]] [[P]] 
> [[R]] [[S]] [[T]] [[U]] [[V]] [[Z]]
>
> Le mercredi 28 octobre 2020 à 08:50:40 UTC+1, Jean-Pierre Rivière a écrit :
>
>> <$list filter="[tag[TableOfContents]]">
>><$set name=1st value={{{ [all[current]split[]first[]] }}}>
>><$set name=1stWord value={{{ [all[current]split[ ]first[]] }}}>
>> <<1st>> <<1stWord>> <$link/>
>>
>> 
>>
>> is really what I wanted to know how to do. I failed to spot your message. 
>> Many thanks Tones!
>>
>> Le lundi 26 octobre 2020 à 23:51:59 UTC+1, TW Tones a écrit :
>>
>>> Jean-Pierre,
>>>
>>> Please do say what you want to do with the first word / letter ?
>>>
>>>- Below are some examples that should solve your issues
>>>- Filters as a rule generate one output so I like to focus on the 
>>>selected tiddler then process it later.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for sharing code that works on TiddlyWiki.com, my examples do so 
>>> as well.
>>>
>>> If it is only for some display purpose you can keep the list focused on 
>>> the selected tiddlers and use triple curly braces (filtered Transclusions) 
>>>
>>> <$list filter="[tag[TableOfContents]]">
>>>{{{ [all[current]split[]first[]] }}}, {{{ [all[current]split[ 
>>> ]first[]] }}}, <$link/>
>>> 
>>>
>>> You can also use HTML
>>>
>>> 
>>> p.uppercase {
>>>   text-transform: uppercase;
>>> }
>>>
>>> p.lowercase {
>>>   text-transform: lowercase;
>>> }
>>>
>>> p.capitalize {
>>>   text-transform: capitalize;
>>> }
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> <$list filter="[tag[TableOfContents]]">
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> But if you need the 1st letter and first word as variables do this.
>>>
>>> <$list filter="[tag[TableOfContents]]">
>>><$set name=1st value={{{ [all[current]split[]first[]] }}}>
>>><$set name=1stWord value={{{ [all[current]split[ ]first[]] }}}>
>>> <<1st>> <<1stWord>> <$link/>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tones
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 09:10:59 UTC+11, Jean-Pierre Rivière wrote:

 good points. OK, I'll do the rwo lists imbicated. Yet, I cannot see why 
 I get exactly the same results in the two lists below.


 <$set name="chrome" value="[tag[Chrome]]">
 <$list 
 filter="[subfilterlowercase[]sentencecase[]splitregexp[\W]!is[blank]addprefix[
  
 * ]]"/>
 

 <$set name="chrome" value="[tag[Chrome]]">
 <$list 
 filter="[tag[Chrome]lowercase[]sentencecase[]splitregexp[\W]!is[blank]addprefix[
  
 * ]]"/>
 

 which is

 * noteself * by * danielo * rodr * guez * savetiddlers * extension * 
 for * chrome * and * firefox * by * buggyj * Emergency * tiddler * export 
 * 
 Saving * on * tiddlyspot * Saving * to * a * git * service * Saving * via 
 * 
 a * minimal * ruby * server * Saving * via * webdav * Saving * with * the 
 * 
 html5 * fallback * saver * Tiddlydrive * add * on * for * google * drive * 
 by * joshua * stubbs * Tiddlywiki * cloud * Timimi * webextension * and * 
 native * host * by * riz

 And same with

 <$set name="chrome" value="[tag[Chrome]]">
 <$list 
 filter="[subfilterlowercase[]sentencecase[]splitregexp[\W]!is[blank]first[]]"/>
 

 <$set name="chrome" value="[tag[Chrome]]">
 <$list 
 filter="[tag[Chrome]lowercase[]sentencecase[]splitregexp[\W]!is[blank]first[]]"/>
 

 where the result is:

 noteself

 (from ~"noteself" by danielo rodríguez~)

 What's the use of subfilter in real life? It seems such a strange 
 beast. I'm really confused. I wish there be an equivalent of map() found 
 in 
 functional language. I thought subfilter was just that but visibly it is 
 not.

 with map I would code:
 <$set name="chrome" value="[tag[Chrome]]">
 <$list 
 filter="[subfilterlowercase[]sentencecase[]splitregexp[\

Re: [tw5] Re: Rate plugin - give half stars?

[W Yan]

Tones Thank you for your reply! Indeed, half stars may not be available for unicode yet, but there seem to be ways to create half stars in css (https://jsfiddle.net/mr6o2xhv/) and ratings in pure css (https://codepen.io/redlabor/pen/wyiAH), so I think it is somewhat possible. (Although I have no idea how to implement those on TW plugins :) ) I was hoping someone already had a solution to it, but looks like I'm out of luck. I might have a look at how the rate plugin is structured and try to add some functions, but I'm no programmer, so I'm not sure if I would be able to make any usable changes. Anyway, I appreciate your help! W Yan01.11.2020, 08:12, "TW Tones" :WI believe that is limited to the customisations documented here https://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#rate-ExamplesYou can add more stars, or perhaps another symbol, but to do as you ask you would need half and other icons to appear as clickable.There is an example of fractional stars here https://css-tricks.com/five-methods-for-five-star-ratings/ but it requires _javascript_.I have not seen any half stars in Unicode of late.TonesOn Sunday, 1 November 2020 02:08:37 UTC+11, W Yan  wrote:Hi, I'm using Tobias' rate plugin right now, it's a great plugin and I think I'm going to use it a lot. I was just wondering, is there a away to give half stars? 1.5 stars, 3.5 stars etc. Something like this.




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[tw5] Re: Radiobutton automatic

[Gerald Weis]

Hello Eric,

thankyou for your help.
You are great.

Eric Shulman schrieb am Samstag, 31. Oktober 2020 um 17:59:47 UTC+1:

> On Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 3:00:47 AM UTC-7, Gerald Weis wrote:
>>
>> Hello Eric,
>> Unfortunately, NOT every entry is a separate tiddler. That's why I also 
>> have the counter variable in my macro kzu_ein2. It defines the number of 
>> the row in the table.
>> The macro kzu_tab defines the head of the table. This table header is 
>> used in exactly the same way for other tables.
>> kzu_ein2 defines the input line of the table. This macro is called for 
>> every row in the table, currently 15 times in the table.
>>
>
> I think you would be better off using the power of TiddlyWiki to construct
> the table output from separate tiddlers that hold the data in fields rather
> than hard-coding literals as macro parameters.  This would allow you
> MUCH more flexibility to reference the stored field values in other places.
>
> However, given your current implementation, try this:
> \define kzu_ein2(datum normvon normbis gewicht  zaehler Wertung)
> 
> $datum$
> $normvon$ - $normbis$
> $gewicht$<
> /td>
> 
><$list filter="[[$gewicht$]compare:number:lt[$normvon$]]"
>   emptyMessage="">
>
>   
>
> 
> 
><$list filter="[[$gewicht$]compare:number:gt[$normbis$]]"
>   emptyMessage="">
>
>   
>
> 
> 
> 
><$list filter="[[$gewicht$]compare:number:gteq[$normvon$]then[$gewicht$
> ]compare:number:lteq[$normbis$]]"
>   emptyMessage="">
>
>   
>
> 
> \end
>
> Notes:
> * Each $list compares the "$gewicht$" parameter value with the $normvon$ 
> and/or $normbis$ values,
> and, if the comparison is true, it shows a checked radio button; otherwise 
> it shows an unchecked radio button
> * Since you are passing in values for normvon, normbis, and gewicht, there 
> is no need to use
> "gewichtNN" field values to hold "1", "2" or "3"
>
> Also... since you are hand-coding and passing constant values into the 
> macro just to
> produce formatted table output, you could omit all the macros, and just 
> using wikitext
> table syntax directly, like this:
>
> |!Datum |!Norm (kg) |!Gewicht |>|>|>|!Wertung |
> |! |! |! |! - |! 0 |! + |
> |18.09.2020 |55,3 - 67,6 | 68,0|| >||
> |01.07.2020 |56,7 - 69,4 | 69,8|| >||
> |11.03.2020 |56,5 - 69,0 | 70,6|| >||
> ...etc...
> |>|>|>|>|>|!- = Neidrig, 0 = Norm, + = Hoch|
>
> -e
>

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[tw5] Re: "This message has been deleted" on TW Google Groups

[jin]

Hi Eric, thank you! 

On Sunday, 1 November 2020 at 16:48:31 UTC+8 Eric Shulman wrote:

> On Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 1:41:36 AM UTC-7, jin wrote:
>>
>> I have been trying to post a problem regarding my wiki here but whenever 
>> I view my post it says that my message has been deleted. So why does this 
>> happen?? I've been posting my concern last 3 pm or something and I can't 
>> get it through it's so frustrating. I saw this issue on another group and 
>> this may probably be because of the spam filter overreacting?? Anyways, if 
>> you've seen countless of my messages, I'll be posting one again so hope it 
>> can get through :')
>>
>
> Your messages have been caught in the spam filter, and I have been 
> approving them (I'm the group administrator).  However, once approved, they 
> aren't showing up.  This seems to be a long-standing bug in GoogleGroups.  
> I've set your membership to "always allow" so that messages from your email 
> address should no longer get caught in the filter.
>
> -e
>

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[tw5] TW error message on Nodejs

[jin]

I haven't been using my wiki for a while because of schoolwork and today I 
decided to input things in. However, I got an error message which says:

C:\Users\Jin>tiddlywiki --listen
Warning: Wiki folder 'C:\Users\Jin' does not exist or is missing a 
tiddlywiki.info file
Warning: Plugins required for client-server operation 
("tiddlywiki/filesystem" and "tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb") are missing from 
tiddlywiki.info file
Serving on http://127.0.0.1:8080
(press ctrl-C to exit)

I checked my wiki folder and it's still there, as well as the 
tiddlywiki.info file. tiddlywiki/filesystem and tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb are 
also in my .info file so I don't what's going on. When I opened the URL, 
it's the empty copy of Tiddlywiki but with no designs or whatnot

Hope someone could help,
Jin

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[tw5] Re: "This message has been deleted" on TW Google Groups

[Eric Shulman]

On Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 1:41:36 AM UTC-7, jin wrote:
>
> I have been trying to post a problem regarding my wiki here but whenever I 
> view my post it says that my message has been deleted. So why does this 
> happen?? I've been posting my concern last 3 pm or something and I can't 
> get it through it's so frustrating. I saw this issue on another group and 
> this may probably be because of the spam filter overreacting?? Anyways, if 
> you've seen countless of my messages, I'll be posting one again so hope it 
> can get through :')
>

Your messages have been caught in the spam filter, and I have been 
approving them (I'm the group administrator).  However, once approved, they 
aren't showing up.  This seems to be a long-standing bug in GoogleGroups.  
I've set your membership to "always allow" so that messages from your email 
address should no longer get caught in the filter.

-e

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[tw5] "This message has been deleted" on TW Google Groups

[jin]

I have been trying to post a problem regarding my wiki here but whenever I 
view my post it says that my message has been deleted. So why does this 
happen?? I've been posting my concern last 3 pm or something and I can't 
get it through it's so frustrating. I saw this issue on another group and 
this may probably be because of the spam filter overreacting?? Anyways, if 
you've seen countless of my messages, I'll be posting one again so hope it 
can get through :')

Jin

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[tw5] TW error message, not working on Nodejs

[jin]

I haven't been using my wiki for a while because of schoolwork and today I 
decided to input things in. However, I got an error message which says:

C:\Users\Jin>tiddlywiki --listen
*Warning:* Wiki folder 'C:\Users\Jin' does not exist or is missing a 
tiddlywiki.info file
*Warning:* Plugins required for client-server operation 
("tiddlywiki/filesystem" and "tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb") are missing from 
tiddlywiki.info file
Serving on http://127.0.0.1:8080
(press ctrl-C to exit)

I checked my wiki folder and it's still there, as well as the 
tiddlywiki.info file. tiddlywiki/filesystem and tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb are 
also in my .info file so I don't what's going on. When I opened the URL, 
it's the empty copy of Tiddlywiki but with no designs or whatnot

Hope someone could help,
Jin

PS: By the way, I have been posting this message for quite sometime and 
whenever I open it, it says message has been deleted and my message is not 
on the group but I got an email that shows I posted it so you may probably 
see my message twice or so 

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[tw5] Re: TW error message, not working on Nodejs

[jin]

Sorry about this I can't seem to get my message in here, it's so 
frustrating. Anyways, I haven't been using my wiki for a while because of 
schoolwork and today I decided to input things in. However, I got an error 
message which says:

C:\Users\Jin>tiddlywiki --listen
Warning: Wiki folder 'C:\Users\Jin' does not exist or is missing a 
tiddlywiki.info file
Warning: Plugins required for client-server operation 
("tiddlywiki/filesystem" and "tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb") are missing from 
tiddlywiki.info file
Serving on http://127.0.0.1:8080
(press ctrl-C to exit)

I checked my wiki folder and it's still there, as well as the 
tiddlywiki.info file. tiddlywiki/filesystem and tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb are 
also in my .info file so I don't what's going on. When I opened the URL, 
it's the empty copy of Tiddlywiki but with no designs or whatnot

Hope someone could help,
Jin

On Sunday, 1 November 2020 at 16:29:15 UTC+8 jin wrote:

> .
>

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[tw5] TW error message, not running on Nodejs

[jin]

I haven't been using my wiki for a while because of schoolwork and today I 
decided to input things in. However, I got an error message which says:

C:\Users\Jin>tiddlywiki --listen
*Warning:* Wiki folder 'C:\Users\Jin' does not exist or is missing a 
tiddlywiki. info file
*Warning:* Plugins required for client-server operation 
("tiddlywiki/filesystem" and "tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb") are missing from 
tiddlywiki. info file
Serving on http://127.0.0.1:8080
(press ctrl-C to exit)

I checked my wiki folder and it's still there, as well as the 
tiddlywiki.info file. tiddlywiki/filesystem and tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb are 
also in my .info file so I don't what's going on. When I opened the URL, 
it's the empty copy of Tiddlywiki but with no designs or whatnot

Hope someone could help,
Jin

PS: By the way, I have been posting this message for quite sometime and 
whenever I open it, it says message has been deleted which is frustrating 
and my message is not on the group but I got an email that shows I posted 
it so you may probably see my message twice or so

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[tw5] TW error message, not running on Nodejs

[jin]

I haven't been using my wiki for a while because of schoolwork and today I 
decided to input things in. However, I got an error message which says:

C:\Users\Jin>tiddlywiki --listen
Warning: Wiki folder 'C:\Users\Jin' does not exist or is missing a 
tiddlywiki.info file
Warning: Plugins required for client-server operation 
("tiddlywiki/filesystem" and "tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb") are missing from 
tiddlywiki.info file
Serving on http://127.0.0.1:8080
(press ctrl-C to exit)

I checked my wiki folder and it's still there, as well as the 
tiddlywiki.info file. tiddlywiki/filesystem and tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb are 
also in my .info file so I don't what's going on. When I opened the URL, 
it's the empty copy of Tiddlywiki but with no designs or whatnot

Hope someone could help,
Jin

PS: By the way, I have been posting this message for quite sometime and 
whenever I open it, it says message has been deleted and my message is not 
on the group but I got an email that shows I posted it so you may probably 
see my message twice or so, idk.

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[tw5] TW error message, not working on Nodejs

[jin]

I haven't been using my wiki for a while because of schoolwork and today I 
decided to input things in. However, I got an error message which says:

C:\Users\Jin>tiddlywiki --listen
Warning: Wiki folder 'C:\Users\Jin' does not exist or is missing a 
tiddlywiki. info file
Warning: Plugins required for client-server operation 
("tiddlywiki/filesystem" and "tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb") are missing from 
tiddlywiki. info file
Serving on http://127.0.0.1: 8080
(press ctrl-C to exit)

I checked my wiki folder and it's still there, as well as the 
tiddlywiki.info file. tiddlywiki/filesystem and tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb are 
also in my .info file so I don't what's going on. When I opened the URL, 
it's the empty copy of Tiddlywiki but with no designs or whatnot


Hope someone could help,
Jin

PS: By the way, I have been posting this message for numerous times and 
whenever I open it, it says message has been deleted (which is so so 
frustrating) and my message is not on the group but I got an email that 
shows I posted it so you may probably see my message twice or so, idk
On Sunday, 1 November 2020 at 16:31:36 UTC+8 jin wrote:

> .
>
> On Sunday, 1 November 2020 at 16:29:15 UTC+8 jin wrote:
>
>> .
>>
>

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[tw5] TW error message, not running on Nodejs

[jin]

I haven't been using my wiki for a while because of schoolwork and today I 
decided to input things in. However, I got an error message which says:

C:\Users\Jin>tiddlywiki --listen
*Warning:* Wiki folder 'C:\Users\Jin' does not exist or is missing a 
tiddlywiki.info file
*Warning: *Plugins required for client-server operation 
("tiddlywiki/filesystem" and "tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb") are missing from 
tiddlywiki.info file
Serving on http://127.0.0.1:8080
(press ctrl-C to exit)

I checked my wiki folder and it's still there, as well as the 
tiddlywiki.info file. tiddlywiki/filesystem and tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb are 
also in my .info file so I don't what's going on. When I opened the URL, 
it's the empty copy of Tiddlywiki but with no designs or whatnot

Hope someone could help though,
Jin

PS: I have been posting this message quite a few times because when I open 
it, it says message deleted so I don't know about that but when I refresh 
the page, my message doesn't show so yea.

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Re: [tw5] Re: Classic to TW5 Plugins

[Eric Shulman]

On Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 5:42:56 AM UTC-7, Alvin wrote:
>
> Here are the plugins I use in ClassicTW:
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> *AllowOnlineEdit*
   not needed.  Full editing abilities are available by default, even when 
viewed over http
*CopyTiddlerPlugin*
   the "clone" command (available in View mode) does this.  Note there is 
no equivalent to "copy while editing".
*ForEachTiddlerPlugin*
   use the $list widget (see https://tiddlywiki.com/#ListWidget)
*GetVersionPlugin*
   use the <> macro (see https://tiddlywiki.com/#version%20Macro)
*LoadThroughProxy*
   not sure what this does
*NestedSlidersPlugin*
   use a combination of $button and $reveal widgets 
(see https://tiddlywiki.com/#RevealWidget)
*SetDefaultOptions*
   probably not needed, depending on which options you were setting, 
*SmileyPlugin*
   probably can be replaced by using Unicode emojis 
(see https://unicode.org/emoji/charts/full-emoji-list.html)
*TSpotSetupPlugin*
   support for TiddlySpot are included in the TWCore (see $:/ControlPanel, 
Saving tab, TiddlySpot tab)
*UploadPlugin*
   support for uploading to TiddlySpot (and other online services like 
GitHub) are included in the TWCore
*listTags*
   not sure what this does
*tagCloud*
   similar functionality available 
here: 
http://tiddlytools.com/filtergenerators.html#TiddlyTools%2FFilterGenerators%2FTagCloud

-e

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[tw5] Re: .I'm sorry but why can't I post my message? I have been trying fro a number of times!

[jin]

.

On Sunday, 1 November 2020 at 16:29:15 UTC+8 jin wrote:

> .
>

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[tw5] .

[jin]

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[tw5] Why can't I post on Google Groups? I can't see my message

[jin]

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[tw5] TW error message, not running on Nodejs

[jin]

I haven't been using my wiki for a while because of schoolwork and today I 
decided to input things in. However, I got an error message which says:

C:\Users\Jin>tiddlywiki --listen
*Warning:* Wiki folder 'C:\Users\Jin' does not exist or is missing a 
tiddlywiki.info file
*Warning:* Plugins required for client-server operation 
("tiddlywiki/filesystem" and "tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb") are missing from 
tiddlywiki.info file
Serving on http://127.0.0.1:8080
(press Ctrl-C to exit)

I checked my wiki folder and it's still there, as well as the 
tiddlywiki.info file. tiddlywiki/filesystem and tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb are 
also in my .info file so I don't what's going on. When I opened the URL 
it's the empty copy of Tiddlywiki but without the designs or whatnot

Hope someone could help,
Jin

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[tw5] TW error message, not running on Nodejs

[jin]

I haven't been using my wiki for a while because of schoolwork and today I 
decided to input things in. However, I got an error message which says:

C:\Users\Jin>tiddlywiki --listen
*Warning: *Wiki folder 'C:\Users\Jin' does not exist or is missing a 
tiddlywiki.info file
*Warning:* Plugins required for client-server operation 
("tiddlywiki/filesystem" and "tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb") are missing from 
tiddlywiki.info file
Serving on http://127.0.0.1:8080
(press ctrl-C to exit)

I checked my wiki folder and it's still there, as well as the 
tiddlywiki.info file. tiddlywiki/filesystem and tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb are 
also in my .info file so I don't what's going on. When I opened the URL, 
it's like the default, empty copy of Tiddlywiki but looks like a normal 
html with no designs or whatnot.

Hope someone could help,
Jin

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