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Re: [tw5] Re: Is there a sitemap for Tiddlywiki

2021-02-21 Thread The Scribe

Thanks for this information, Mat. I’ll check it out and see how it works. 

Sent from my iPad

> On 21 Feb 2021, at 10:32 pm, Mat  wrote:
> 
> Hi Karen.
> 
> There isn't exactly a sitemap plugin (that I'm aware of) but there is first 
> of all the built-in Explorer tab found in: Sidebar > More > Explorer
> There is also the various table-of-content macros.
> 
> <:-)
> 
>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 9:56:44 AM UTC+1 TheScribe wrote:
>> Hi all, 
>> 
>> It’s been interesting reading the emails each day since I joined. I’ve 
>> learned a lot that I didn’t know, such as TW can possibly be used as a 
>> website. I’m interested in doing this and will research it in coming weeks. 
>> 
>> But, my existing TW is quite large and I was wondering if there is a sitemap 
>> plugin for Tiddlywiki? I have looked through the plugins listed on the 
>> Community page and another website I saw in an email, but couldn’t find 
>> anything. Any suggestions? 
>> 
>> Kind regards, 
>> Karen 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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[tw5] Re: TOC dichotomy

2021-02-21 Thread Douglas Glenn

Good suggestion. I forget tiddlywiki is web based, but use the Chrome dev 
tools all the time on the web.

Thank will do the trick. Thank you!

On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 11:07:53 PM UTC-5 springer wrote:

> General troubleshooting tip: Browsers offer some kind of "Inspect" 
> function (at least, that's what it's called on Chrome)  that lets you peek 
> at how css is getting applied to any given element on the page. 
>
> Those arrows (when they're displaying in the sidebar seem to use the 
> sidebar-foreground palette color. (At least, on tiddlywiki.com, changing 
> that bit on the palette is what makes the difference.)
>
> So your cloned Nord-variant sidebar probably collapsed that value to that 
> it's indistinguishable from the sidebar background...
>
> -Springer
> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 3:55:12 PM UTC-5 dgle...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I'm having a small issue with the Nord palette as shown below on the 
>> sidebar tab. 
>> [image: 01232021_TOC_oddity.bmp]
>>
>> I've cloned the palette in order to edit it, but in edit mode nothing 
>> jumps out at me that says 'here I am'  where I can change the sidebar >  
>> color.
>>
>> Any help would be appreciated :-)
>>
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[tw5] Re: TOC dichotomy

2021-02-21 Thread springer

General troubleshooting tip: Browsers offer some kind of "Inspect" function 
(at least, that's what it's called on Chrome)  that lets you peek at how 
css is getting applied to any given element on the page. 

Those arrows (when they're displaying in the sidebar seem to use the 
sidebar-foreground palette color. (At least, on tiddlywiki.com, changing 
that bit on the palette is what makes the difference.)

So your cloned Nord-variant sidebar probably collapsed that value to that 
it's indistinguishable from the sidebar background...

-Springer
On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 3:55:12 PM UTC-5 dgle...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm having a small issue with the Nord palette as shown below on the 
> sidebar tab. 
> [image: 01232021_TOC_oddity.bmp]
>
> I've cloned the palette in order to edit it, but in edit mode nothing 
> jumps out at me that says 'here I am'  where I can change the sidebar >  
> color.
>
> Any help would be appreciated :-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Getting back to Primordial tiddlers!

2021-02-21 Thread strikke...@gmail.com

Go to control panel, the info tab. That does not look quit as well.
I had so much fun playing with your small tiddlers. I forgot to sleep and 
it is time to start the day now. But distraction free?  ;-)

Birthe

mandag den 22. februar 2021 kl. 03.54.52 UTC+1 skrev strikke...@gmail.com:

> Do  you know https://szenio.de/Grid/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2FJJ%2Fsidecontrols 
> ? Hover in the right side of the tiddler. It could be smaller and without 
> the background color.
>
> In TWclassic we also had much smaller tiddlers - and loved them.
>
>
> Birthe
>
> mandag den 22. februar 2021 kl. 03.17.15 UTC+1 skrev David Gifford:
>
>>
>> hi guys
>>
>> I was inspired by watching the video of Jeremy's talk with Joe Armstrong.
>>
>> Check out what I came up with here. 
>> https://giffmex.org/experiments/primordial.tiddlers.html
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Getting back to Primordial tiddlers!

2021-02-21 Thread strikke...@gmail.com

Do  you know https://szenio.de/Grid/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2FJJ%2Fsidecontrols ? 
Hover in the right side of the tiddler. It could be smaller and without the 
background color.

In TWclassic we also had much smaller tiddlers - and loved them.


Birthe

mandag den 22. februar 2021 kl. 03.17.15 UTC+1 skrev David Gifford:

>
> hi guys
>
> I was inspired by watching the video of Jeremy's talk with Joe Armstrong.
>
> Check out what I came up with here. 
> https://giffmex.org/experiments/primordial.tiddlers.html
>

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[tw5] Re: Getting back to Primordial tiddlers!

2021-02-21 Thread David Gifford

Just updated this, hiding the titlebar with a button.

On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 8:17:15 PM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:

>
> hi guys
>
> I was inspired by watching the video of Jeremy's talk with Joe Armstrong.
>
> Check out what I came up with here. 
> https://giffmex.org/experiments/primordial.tiddlers.html
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[tw5] Getting back to Primordial tiddlers!

2021-02-21 Thread David Gifford


hi guys

I was inspired by watching the video of Jeremy's talk with Joe Armstrong.

Check out what I came up with here. 
https://giffmex.org/experiments/primordial.tiddlers.html

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Re: [tw5] Re: Writing Recommendations

2021-02-21 Thread OOC

Yes I did import both tiddlers. I also have side edit plugin, projectify
and notywritey

On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 6:39 PM OOC  wrote:

> The controlling what is visible in edit mode does not work. I have the
> down icon but no menu appears. Anyone else?
>
> O
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 3:49 PM David Gifford  wrote:
>
>> My top two recommendations for making TW more like a writing machine:
>>
>> 1. The editor-autolists plugin (
>> https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/editor-autolists.html), if you don't
>> mind writing in bulleted or numbered lists. It makes it easy to hit enter
>> and go to the next line, and hit tab to indent.
>> 2. My setup for hiding what is visible in edit mode:
>> https://giffmex.org/gifts/documenting.tw.html#Control%20what%20is%20visible%20in%20edit%20mode
>>
>> The second one frees up visual screen real estate so you are not
>> distracted by all the stuff in TW edit mode.
>>
>> On Friday, February 19, 2021 at 11:12:34 AM UTC-6 ooc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I am looking for any plugins, themes or ideas to make my tiddlywiki feel
>>> more like a writing machine. I am not a TW novice, I am a TW amoeba!  So
>>> advice towards this goal is much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Adore tiddlywiki, it is like a deep ocean where I am barely treading
>>> water.
>>>
>>> O
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Re: [tw5] Re: Writing Recommendations

2021-02-21 Thread OOC

The controlling what is visible in edit mode does not work. I have the down
icon but no menu appears. Anyone else?

O

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 3:49 PM David Gifford  wrote:

> My top two recommendations for making TW more like a writing machine:
>
> 1. The editor-autolists plugin (
> https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/editor-autolists.html), if you don't
> mind writing in bulleted or numbered lists. It makes it easy to hit enter
> and go to the next line, and hit tab to indent.
> 2. My setup for hiding what is visible in edit mode:
> https://giffmex.org/gifts/documenting.tw.html#Control%20what%20is%20visible%20in%20edit%20mode
>
> The second one frees up visual screen real estate so you are not
> distracted by all the stuff in TW edit mode.
>
> On Friday, February 19, 2021 at 11:12:34 AM UTC-6 ooc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I am looking for any plugins, themes or ideas to make my tiddlywiki feel
>> more like a writing machine. I am not a TW novice, I am a TW amoeba!  So
>> advice towards this goal is much appreciated.
>>
>> Adore tiddlywiki, it is like a deep ocean where I am barely treading
>> water.
>>
>> O
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Re: [tw5] Re: Writing Recommendations

2021-02-21 Thread strikke...@gmail.com

@Mat,
The stylesheet is more than enough.  
I think it is the same size font in SideEditor - but somehow it looks 
smaller, i think the line height is smaller. It might just be a feeling.
I have not changed the font in the normal editor. 
I am using Ctrl + rather often when I am tired to find my TW mistakes. 
Better that than the eyes popping out LOL

Birthe

søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 23.36.03 UTC+1 skrev Mat:

> strikke...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @Mat,
>> You might explain that in the readme for the plugin if/when upgrading. 
>> I liked having the font a little bigger, thanks.
>>
>
> So, I guess I should add some setting for the font-size then (help remind 
> me... should be around year 2030). Instructing how to do it with a 
> stylesheet was just a workaround to avoid hacking it. But isn't the font 
> size in the SideEditor the same size as the normal editor? (How do people 
> solve it there?)
>
> But Birthe, you just need to ask. You know I'd do anything for you ;-)
>
> <:-)
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Grep like function in TW5 possible?

2021-02-21 Thread Ray Vermey

Only the line Mat, only the line (begin to  so to speak... :-)

Ray

Op zo 21 feb. 2021 om 23:43 schreef Mat :

> If you mean to transclude the full(!) text field content from every text
> that mentions John Doe, then that is not difficult at all. Even simple.
> To extract only those lines is more tricky. Exactly how tricky probably
> depends on how you define "a line".
>
> <:-)
>
> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 10:54:49 PM UTC+1 rayv...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have an idea, maybe it is alrady there but this is what i just think
>> I would like a tiddler say John Doe where every line in every tiddler
>> that has John Doe in it will be placed automatically in that John Doe
>> tiddler
>>
>> Like a grep in Linux, only the lines with John Doe in it.
>>
>> Is that possible?
>>
>> Ray
>>
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[tw5] Re: Grep like function in TW5 possible?

2021-02-21 Thread Mat

If you mean to transclude the full(!) text field content from every text 
that mentions John Doe, then that is not difficult at all. Even simple.
To extract only those lines is more tricky. Exactly how tricky probably 
depends on how you define "a line".

<:-)

On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 10:54:49 PM UTC+1 rayv...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have an idea, maybe it is alrady there but this is what i just think
> I would like a tiddler say John Doe where every line in every tiddler that 
> has John Doe in it will be placed automatically in that John Doe tiddler
>
> Like a grep in Linux, only the lines with John Doe in it.
>
> Is that possible?
>
> Ray
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Writing Recommendations

2021-02-21 Thread Mat

strikke...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Mat,
> You might explain that in the readme for the plugin if/when upgrading. 
> I liked having the font a little bigger, thanks.
>

So, I guess I should add some setting for the font-size then (help remind 
me... should be around year 2030). Instructing how to do it with a 
stylesheet was just a workaround to avoid hacking it. But isn't the font 
size in the SideEditor the same size as the normal editor? (How do people 
solve it there?)

But Birthe, you just need to ask. You know I'd do anything for you ;-)

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Filter help

2021-02-21 Thread Mat

Mark and Alvaro, your help is much appreciated, and you gave the clues 
needed to make it work.
Thank you!
<:-)
On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 6:15:08 PM UTC+1 Álvaro wrote:

> I think I do other typo
>
> If I don't missunderstand something
>
> <$list filter="[all[tiddlers]!contains:idthen[TRUE]unique[]]" > 
>
> El domingo, 21 de febrero de 2021 a las 18:04:55 UTC+1, Álvaro escribió:
>
>> Agggh! I wrote "*all[current]*" but I wanted to write "*all[tiddlers]*"
>>
>> Now i put a more simple example which works in tiddlywikiDOTcom , there 
>> are 6 tiddler with tag "HelloThere", then filter return 6 times "TRUE" but 
>> It was trimmed with (undocumented) unique operator.
>>
>> {{{ [all[tiddlers]contains:tags[HelloThere]then[TRUE]unique[]] }}}
>>
>> If change the field tags to tagss the output of filter is empty.
>>
>> Now you can put your action inside of a listwidget.
>>
>> <$list filter="[all[tiddlers]contains:idthen[TRUE]unique[]]" >
>> *Do X*
>> 
>> El domingo, 21 de febrero de 2021 a las 16:11:35 UTC+1, Mark S. escribió:
>>
>>> Try 
>>>
>>> [idthen[yes]else[no]compare:string:eq[no]]
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 1:47:35 AM UTC-8 Mat wrote:
>>>
 Need some filter help. Pseudocode:

 <$vars value={{foo!!value}}>
 filter=Among all tiddlers with an id field, if there is no tiddler 
 with id: then do X but if there is a tiddler with id: then 
 do nothing
 

 I assume it is some kind of then ... else construct but I can't quite 
 materialize it and I'm getting confused by how I loose the tiddler titles 
 if I look at their field values. Maybe I need something with the 
 subfilter operator but I'm not sure how... ?

 Thank you.

 <:-)

>>>

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[tw5] Grep like function in TW5 possible?

2021-02-21 Thread Ray Vermey

Hi all,

I have an idea, maybe it is alrady there but this is what i just think
I would like a tiddler say John Doe where every line in every tiddler that 
has John Doe in it will be placed automatically in that John Doe tiddler

Like a grep in Linux, only the lines with John Doe in it.

Is that possible?

Ray

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[tw5] Re: How to make a keyboard shortcut for line breaks?

2021-02-21 Thread strikke...@gmail.com

Test it, I think it is due to the plugin $:/plugins/sq/editor-autolist. If 
you do not need it, you could try to disable it.

Birthe

søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 22.15.34 UTC+1 skrev peter...@gmail.com:

> Hi Chris, 
> thanks for the clarification! For me, bullet lists and numbered lists 
> (including these line breaks are an important feature and I am using STROLL 
> > i made an nteresting observation: I downloaded Marios plugin. It works in 
> original TW with reasonable output: also for lists it works great, an 
> space-space-enter at the end produces a new paragraph and for a next 
> bullet/numbers I need to again hit * or #. However, in STROLL, hitting 
> space-space-enter at the end of a bullet paragraph produces a correctly 
> indented new line but with a (unneccessary) * or # at the beginning. No 
> clue how to turn this off. Any idea?
>
> kind regards
> Peter
>
> clutterstack schrieb am Sonntag, 21. Februar 2021 um 18:06:29 UTC+1:
>
>> Hi Peter, 
>>
>> At first guess, it looks as though you may be using standard WikiText 
>> (the default in TiddlyWiki), rather than Markdown? 
>>
>> In this case, the triple-double-quote delimiters would be the syntax you 
>> want for hard linebreaks (or if you want Markdown-like syntax just for 
>> linebreaks, Mario's plugin). Mario's long link 
>>
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Hard%20Linebreaks%20in%20WikiText:%5B%5BHard%20Linebreaks%20in%20WikiText%5D%5D%20%5B%5BHard%20Linebreaks%20with%20CSS%20-%20Example%5D%5D%20%5B%5BHard%20Linebreaks%20with%20CSS%5D%5D
>> brings up the relevant TiddlyWiki docs for that.
>>
>> Quick excerpt from Hard Linebreaks in WikiText 
>> :
>>
>> """ 
>> This is a line 
>> and this is a new line 
>> while this is yet another line 
>> and this is the final one 
>> apart from this one 
>> """
>>
>> Hope that helps,
>>
>> Chris
>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 10:44:21 AM UTC-5 peter...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> hi mario, 
>>>
>>> thanks for the very quick reply!  Of course, I would like to stay with 
>>> the standard :-). However, the first option does not work in my wiki, I 
>>> just downloaded an new empty.html TW wiki to test, and it does not work 
>>> there either, unfortunately. Entering "" works fine but is simply tool 
>>> long if used often and clutters the text. See screenshot. Any 
>>> configurations I missed out? I am working on a Win 10 machine.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> PMario schrieb am Sonntag, 21. Februar 2021 um 16:31:05 UTC+1:
>>>
 Hi,
 If you use markdown, you should use the markdown standard, which is 
 defined as 

 So just put 2 spaces at the end of the line and it will create a 
 hard-linebreak

 If you want to do the same with TW syntax see:

  - 
 https://tiddlywiki.com/#Hard%20Linebreaks%20in%20WikiText:%5B%5BHard%20Linebreaks%20in%20WikiText%5D%5D%20%5B%5BHard%20Linebreaks%20with%20CSS%20-%20Example%5D%5D%20%5B%5BHard%20Linebreaks%20with%20CSS%5D%5D

 Or you can use my space-space-newline plugin. It works the same way as 
 MD syntax.

  - https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/space-space-newline/

 -mario



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[tw5] Re: How to make a keyboard shortcut for line breaks?

2021-02-21 Thread Peter Erne

Hi Chris, 
thanks for the clarification! For me, bullet lists and numbered lists 
(including these line breaks are an important feature and I am using STROLL 
> i made an nteresting observation: I downloaded Marios plugin. It works in 
original TW with reasonable output: also for lists it works great, an 
space-space-enter at the end produces a new paragraph and for a next 
bullet/numbers I need to again hit * or #. However, in STROLL, hitting 
space-space-enter at the end of a bullet paragraph produces a correctly 
indented new line but with a (unneccessary) * or # at the beginning. No 
clue how to turn this off. Any idea?

kind regards
Peter

clutterstack schrieb am Sonntag, 21. Februar 2021 um 18:06:29 UTC+1:

> Hi Peter, 
>
> At first guess, it looks as though you may be using standard WikiText (the 
> default in TiddlyWiki), rather than Markdown? 
>
> In this case, the triple-double-quote delimiters would be the syntax you 
> want for hard linebreaks (or if you want Markdown-like syntax just for 
> linebreaks, Mario's plugin). Mario's long link 
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Hard%20Linebreaks%20in%20WikiText:%5B%5BHard%20Linebreaks%20in%20WikiText%5D%5D%20%5B%5BHard%20Linebreaks%20with%20CSS%20-%20Example%5D%5D%20%5B%5BHard%20Linebreaks%20with%20CSS%5D%5D
> brings up the relevant TiddlyWiki docs for that.
>
> Quick excerpt from Hard Linebreaks in WikiText 
> :
>
> """ 
> This is a line 
> and this is a new line 
> while this is yet another line 
> and this is the final one 
> apart from this one 
> """
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Chris
> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 10:44:21 AM UTC-5 peter...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> hi mario, 
>>
>> thanks for the very quick reply!  Of course, I would like to stay with 
>> the standard :-). However, the first option does not work in my wiki, I 
>> just downloaded an new empty.html TW wiki to test, and it does not work 
>> there either, unfortunately. Entering "" works fine but is simply tool 
>> long if used often and clutters the text. See screenshot. Any 
>> configurations I missed out? I am working on a Win 10 machine.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
>> PMario schrieb am Sonntag, 21. Februar 2021 um 16:31:05 UTC+1:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> If you use markdown, you should use the markdown standard, which is 
>>> defined as 
>>>
>>> So just put 2 spaces at the end of the line and it will create a 
>>> hard-linebreak
>>>
>>> If you want to do the same with TW syntax see:
>>>
>>>  - 
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Hard%20Linebreaks%20in%20WikiText:%5B%5BHard%20Linebreaks%20in%20WikiText%5D%5D%20%5B%5BHard%20Linebreaks%20with%20CSS%20-%20Example%5D%5D%20%5B%5BHard%20Linebreaks%20with%20CSS%5D%5D
>>>
>>> Or you can use my space-space-newline plugin. It works the same way as 
>>> MD syntax.
>>>
>>>  - https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/space-space-newline/
>>>
>>> -mario
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Backlinks

2021-02-21 Thread strikke...@gmail.com

Sorry, Mark S! You are of course right. I do not normally use tiddly 
desktop. I do not know why, but it takes about 10 years and a war to start 
it on my computer.

Birthe

søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 20.30.09 UTC+1 skrev Mark S.:

> @strikke The TW 5.1.23-*prerelease* that is part of TD 14 might not have 
> incorporated those changes yet.
>
> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 11:23:43 AM UTC-8 strikke...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> That is correct. But when you upgraded the language tiddler should have 
>> been upgraded too, If you look at Tiddlywiki.com 
>> 
>> the tiddler has Backlinks in the text field.
>>
>> Birthe
>> søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 20.07.49 UTC+1 skrev ludwa6:
>>
>>> Thanks @Birthe : i'm looking at that tiddler, which does have a caption 
>>> field holding the string "{{$:/language/TiddlerInfo/References/Caption}}" 
>>> -is that as it should be? 
>>>
>>> Whether it is or isn't, i'm hesitant to make any edits, in light of the 
>>> warning i got on entering edit view: that any edits i make could make 
>>> future upgrades non-trivial (trivial being more my speed, i must admit! :-)
>>>
>>> /walt
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 6:51:38 PM UTC strikke...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 The tiddler $:/core/ui/TiddlerInfo/References has a caption field with 
 the $:/language/TiddlerInfo/References/Caption transcluded. Maybe you 
 tiddler is overwritten earlier?

 Birthe

 søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 19.24.58 UTC+1 skrev ludwa6:

> OK, with a TD instance 2 versions out-of-date already (0.0.13 vs 
> 0.0.15), i decided to bite the bullet and upgrade it to most current 
> version.
>
> The Good News: it upgraded my out-of-date (v.5.1.16!) multi-files wiki 
> to current 5.1.23.
>
> The Bad News: you guys are right, Mark S. & Strikke : installation of 
> plugins from within TD, via Control Panel : Plugins: "Get More Plugins" 
> button, no longer works;  in fact one cannot even follow step 1 of the 
> rather complicated instruction-set it throws up, i.e.
> >  1. Identify the plugins you want to install using the *Plugins* tab 
> of control panel  (
> *don't* install the plugins from here, though).
> ... Because that tab does not even give a browsable list of plugins 
> anymore; click on tab just returns: "The official plugin library is 
> disabled when using the client-server configuration. Instead, plugins 
> should be installed via the tiddlywiki.info file, as described here 
> "
>  
> (i.e. the step-by-step instructions that Mark references).  I'd have to 
> call this a bug in the process.
>
> Moreover: the upgrade to version 5.1.23 of the wiki didn't fix the 
> tiddler Info tab problem; tho the view is updated, that tab i questioned 
> above still says "References" instead of "Backlinks" (not that i care 
> anymore about this, now that i know they are synonyms; am just sayin' 
>  
> :-)
>
> /walt
> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 5:55:27 PM UTC Mark S. wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 7:32:46 AM UTC-8 strikke...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> How do you intall plugins and themes then? I though that was 
>>> different for node.js wikis.
>>>
>>>
>> Good point.
>>
>> ludwa6 must have installed them before the change.  
>>
>> If he/she upgrades to v14+,  they'll have to use the  tiddlywiki.info 
>> file. Or add other plugins underneath the local plugins folder. 
>> You can also drag and drop 3rd party plugins from other tiddlywikis.
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: trying to embed gist (github) in tiddler

2021-02-21 Thread Soren Bjornstad

AFAIK,  tags are not supported within tiddlers for security 
reasons. Iframes do work (I embed Google Maps in some of my tiddlers), but 
presumably not if they contain scripts. Is there some other way to embed a 
gist?

On Friday, February 19, 2021 at 3:57:18 PM UTC-6 gavin@gmail.com wrote:

>
> Hi TW users, 
>
> Does anyone know why the embed code for a gist doesn't display in a 
> tiddler? I get an empty box returned. I tried wrapping in an  also. 
>
> This is the code I am trying to add:
> <script src="<a  rel="nofollow" href="https://gist.github.com/protrolium/e0dbd4bb0f1a396fcb55.js">https://gist.github.com/protrolium/e0dbd4bb0f1a396fcb55.js</a>
> ">
>
> macOS 10.13.6 
> Firefox 85.0.2
>

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arunn,

Disabling the Tekan plugin worked. I had run through the palettes and 
themes to try and track it down and was just starting on the plugins.

Thank you much for saving me more time. I didn't have anything super 
special that I needed, I was just going to verify my upgrade to 5.1.23 
changed the plugin path. Apparently the offline upgrade.html has not had 
that change made yet but the sites upgrade process did. I had just fixed it 
and still no fix. 
On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 11:09:34 AM UTC-5 arunn...@gmail.com wrote:

> I used to get this error when I was using Tekan plug in. 
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 10:27 PM Douglas Glenn  wrote:
>
>> I get this as a result selecting 'Plugins' tab on the control panel, the 
>> select 'Get more plugins'
>>
>> Up pops this window.
>>
>> [image: pluginErr.jpg]
>>
>> It may simply be interference from another plugin. It used to work fine 
>> with both repositories. I have not installed any plugin this year I am 
>> aware of. I'd finished adding any in December 2020. This time I wanted some 
>> more theme choices. But after selecting them and closing the library the 
>> popup tab remained without the close button on it.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
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@strikke The TW 5.1.23-*prerelease* that is part of TD 14 might not have 
incorporated those changes yet.

On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 11:23:43 AM UTC-8 strikke...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> That is correct. But when you upgraded the language tiddler should have 
> been upgraded too, If you look at Tiddlywiki.com 
> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2Flanguage%2FTiddlerInfo%2FReferences%2FCaption>
> the tiddler has Backlinks in the text field.
>
> Birthe
> søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 20.07.49 UTC+1 skrev ludwa6:
>
>> Thanks @Birthe : i'm looking at that tiddler, which does have a caption 
>> field holding the string "{{$:/language/TiddlerInfo/References/Caption}}" 
>> -is that as it should be? 
>>
>> Whether it is or isn't, i'm hesitant to make any edits, in light of the 
>> warning i got on entering edit view: that any edits i make could make 
>> future upgrades non-trivial (trivial being more my speed, i must admit! :-)
>>
>> /walt
>>
>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 6:51:38 PM UTC strikke...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The tiddler $:/core/ui/TiddlerInfo/References has a caption field with 
>>> the $:/language/TiddlerInfo/References/Caption transcluded. Maybe you 
>>> tiddler is overwritten earlier?
>>>
>>> Birthe
>>>
>>> søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 19.24.58 UTC+1 skrev ludwa6:
>>>
 OK, with a TD instance 2 versions out-of-date already (0.0.13 vs 
 0.0.15), i decided to bite the bullet and upgrade it to most current 
 version.

 The Good News: it upgraded my out-of-date (v.5.1.16!) multi-files wiki 
 to current 5.1.23.

 The Bad News: you guys are right, Mark S. & Strikke : installation of 
 plugins from within TD, via Control Panel : Plugins: "Get More Plugins" 
 button, no longer works;  in fact one cannot even follow step 1 of the 
 rather complicated instruction-set it throws up, i.e.
 >  1. Identify the plugins you want to install using the *Plugins* tab 
 of control panel <https://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2FControlPanel> (
 *don't* install the plugins from here, though).
 ... Because that tab does not even give a browsable list of plugins 
 anymore; click on tab just returns: "The official plugin library is 
 disabled when using the client-server configuration. Instead, plugins 
 should be installed via the tiddlywiki.info file, as described here 
 <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Installing%20a%20plugin%20from%20the%20plugin%20library>"
  
 (i.e. the step-by-step instructions that Mark references).  I'd have to 
 call this a bug in the process.

 Moreover: the upgrade to version 5.1.23 of the wiki didn't fix the 
 tiddler Info tab problem; tho the view is updated, that tab i questioned 
 above still says "References" instead of "Backlinks" (not that i care 
 anymore about this, now that i know they are synonyms; am just sayin'  
 :-)

 /walt
 On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 5:55:27 PM UTC Mark S. wrote:

> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 7:32:46 AM UTC-8 strikke...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> How do you intall plugins and themes then? I though that was 
>> different for node.js wikis.
>>
>>
> Good point.
>
> ludwa6 must have installed them before the change.  
>
> If he/she upgrades to v14+,  they'll have to use the  tiddlywiki.info 
> file. Or add other plugins underneath the local plugins folder. 
> You can also drag and drop 3rd party plugins from other tiddlywikis.
>
>
>

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I believe you're actually on 5.1.23-prerelease. Which represents a several 
month period. Or at least that's what the release notes say. 

For uploading, I'd be tempted to download an empty, open it in TD, load it 
with the plugins the way you're comfortable with, and then drag/drop them 
back into your main TW. It's up to you then to make updates whenever you 
update TD.

Having your only alternative to edit a JSON file is ... sad. This puts up a 
barrier a lot of people won't be able to surmount. I *think* I know what 
I'm doing, yet I make mistakes all the time with JSON files. They're very 
unforgiving, one misplaced dangling comma and it's broken. And what is the 
gain? Avoiding conflict with plugins that almost never change anyways. Is 
it worth it?

On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 10:24:58 AM UTC-8 ludwa6 wrote:

> OK, with a TD instance 2 versions out-of-date already (0.0.13 vs 0.0.15), 
> i decided to bite the bullet and upgrade it to most current version.
>
> The Good News: it upgraded my out-of-date (v.5.1.16!) multi-files wiki to 
> current 5.1.23.
>
> The Bad News: you guys are right, Mark S. & Strikke : installation of 
> plugins from within TD, via Control Panel : Plugins: "Get More Plugins" 
> button, no longer works;  in fact one cannot even follow step 1 of the 
> rather complicated instruction-set it throws up, i.e.
> >  1. Identify the plugins you want to install using the *Plugins* tab of 
> > control 
> panel <https://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2FControlPanel> (*don't* install 
> the plugins from here, though).
> ... Because that tab does not even give a browsable list of plugins 
> anymore; click on tab just returns: "The official plugin library is 
> disabled when using the client-server configuration. Instead, plugins 
> should be installed via the tiddlywiki.info file, as described here 
> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Installing%20a%20plugin%20from%20the%20plugin%20library>"
>  
> (i.e. the step-by-step instructions that Mark references).  I'd have to 
> call this a bug in the process.
>
> Moreover: the upgrade to version 5.1.23 of the wiki didn't fix the tiddler 
> Info tab problem; tho the view is updated, that tab i questioned above 
> still says "References" instead of "Backlinks" (not that i care anymore 
> about this, now that i know they are synonyms; am just sayin'  :-)
>
> /walt
> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 5:55:27 PM UTC Mark S. wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 7:32:46 AM UTC-8 strikke...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> How do you intall plugins and themes then? I though that was different 
>>> for node.js wikis.
>>>
>>>
>> Good point.
>>
>> ludwa6 must have installed them before the change.  
>>
>> If he/she upgrades to v14+,  they'll have to use the  tiddlywiki.info 
>> file. Or add other plugins underneath the local plugins folder. 
>> You can also drag and drop 3rd party plugins from other tiddlywikis.
>>
>>
>>

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That is correct. But when you upgraded the language tiddler should have 
been upgraded too, If you look at Tiddlywiki.com 
<https://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2Flanguage%2FTiddlerInfo%2FReferences%2FCaption>
the tiddler has Backlinks in the text field.

Birthe
søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 20.07.49 UTC+1 skrev ludwa6:

> Thanks @Birthe : i'm looking at that tiddler, which does have a caption 
> field holding the string "{{$:/language/TiddlerInfo/References/Caption}}" 
> -is that as it should be? 
>
> Whether it is or isn't, i'm hesitant to make any edits, in light of the 
> warning i got on entering edit view: that any edits i make could make 
> future upgrades non-trivial (trivial being more my speed, i must admit! :-)
>
> /walt
>
> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 6:51:38 PM UTC strikke...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> The tiddler $:/core/ui/TiddlerInfo/References has a caption field with 
>> the $:/language/TiddlerInfo/References/Caption transcluded. Maybe you 
>> tiddler is overwritten earlier?
>>
>> Birthe
>>
>> søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 19.24.58 UTC+1 skrev ludwa6:
>>
>>> OK, with a TD instance 2 versions out-of-date already (0.0.13 vs 
>>> 0.0.15), i decided to bite the bullet and upgrade it to most current 
>>> version.
>>>
>>> The Good News: it upgraded my out-of-date (v.5.1.16!) multi-files wiki 
>>> to current 5.1.23.
>>>
>>> The Bad News: you guys are right, Mark S. & Strikke : installation of 
>>> plugins from within TD, via Control Panel : Plugins: "Get More Plugins" 
>>> button, no longer works;  in fact one cannot even follow step 1 of the 
>>> rather complicated instruction-set it throws up, i.e.
>>> >  1. Identify the plugins you want to install using the *Plugins* tab 
>>> of control panel <https://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2FControlPanel> (
>>> *don't* install the plugins from here, though).
>>> ... Because that tab does not even give a browsable list of plugins 
>>> anymore; click on tab just returns: "The official plugin library is 
>>> disabled when using the client-server configuration. Instead, plugins 
>>> should be installed via the tiddlywiki.info file, as described here 
>>> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Installing%20a%20plugin%20from%20the%20plugin%20library>"
>>>  
>>> (i.e. the step-by-step instructions that Mark references).  I'd have to 
>>> call this a bug in the process.
>>>
>>> Moreover: the upgrade to version 5.1.23 of the wiki didn't fix the 
>>> tiddler Info tab problem; tho the view is updated, that tab i questioned 
>>> above still says "References" instead of "Backlinks" (not that i care 
>>> anymore about this, now that i know they are synonyms; am just sayin'  
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> /walt
>>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 5:55:27 PM UTC Mark S. wrote:
>>>
 On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 7:32:46 AM UTC-8 strikke...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> How do you intall plugins and themes then? I though that was different 
> for node.js wikis.
>
>
 Good point.

 ludwa6 must have installed them before the change.  

 If he/she upgrades to v14+,  they'll have to use the  tiddlywiki.info 
 file. Or add other plugins underneath the local plugins folder. 
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@Mat,
You might explain that in the readme for the plugin if/when upgrading. 
I liked having the font a little bigger, thanks.

Birthe

søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 19.58.22 UTC+1 skrev Mat:

> ooc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Side editor is great!
>>
>> Two things, how do you change the size and type of font in the editor 
>> window. 
>>
>
> $:/Controlpanel > Appearance > Theme tweaks ... Font size
>
> ...which is how (I believe) you chane the font also in the standard 
> editor. BUT it does change the font everywhere. If you have a specific size 
> you only want for the SideEditor, you could hack it a little and add your 
> own stylesheet with:
>
> title: mystylesheet
> tags: $:/tags/Stylesheet
> type: text/css
> text: .se-editor { font-size:20px; }
>
> This will work also if there's an update to the plugin and you update it.
>  
>
>> Also I noticed it only creates a side editor on the side editor + icon. 
>> Is there a way to get the window with all new tiddlers (ie journal)?
>>
>
> Haven't considered that as a separate feature actually. 
> You could proably copy the special + button ( 
> $:/plugins/TWaddle/SideEditor/new-btn ) and tweak it for a journal tiddler. 
> Again, this is also likely to continue to work if there's an update to the 
> plugin. 
> Otherwise it is as Birthe suggests; create a journal tiddler like you 
> always do and open the sideeditor from the > icon in that tiddler.
>
> <:-)
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Thanks @Birthe : i'm looking at that tiddler, which does have a caption 
field holding the string "{{$:/language/TiddlerInfo/References/Caption}}" 
-is that as it should be? 

Whether it is or isn't, i'm hesitant to make any edits, in light of the 
warning i got on entering edit view: that any edits i make could make 
future upgrades non-trivial (trivial being more my speed, i must admit! :-)

/walt

On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 6:51:38 PM UTC strikke...@gmail.com wrote:

> The tiddler $:/core/ui/TiddlerInfo/References has a caption field with 
> the $:/language/TiddlerInfo/References/Caption transcluded. Maybe you 
> tiddler is overwritten earlier?
>
> Birthe
>
> søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 19.24.58 UTC+1 skrev ludwa6:
>
>> OK, with a TD instance 2 versions out-of-date already (0.0.13 vs 0.0.15), 
>> i decided to bite the bullet and upgrade it to most current version.
>>
>> The Good News: it upgraded my out-of-date (v.5.1.16!) multi-files wiki to 
>> current 5.1.23.
>>
>> The Bad News: you guys are right, Mark S. & Strikke : installation of 
>> plugins from within TD, via Control Panel : Plugins: "Get More Plugins" 
>> button, no longer works;  in fact one cannot even follow step 1 of the 
>> rather complicated instruction-set it throws up, i.e.
>> >  1. Identify the plugins you want to install using the *Plugins* tab 
>> of control panel <https://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2FControlPanel> (*don't* 
>> install 
>> the plugins from here, though).
>> ... Because that tab does not even give a browsable list of plugins 
>> anymore; click on tab just returns: "The official plugin library is 
>> disabled when using the client-server configuration. Instead, plugins 
>> should be installed via the tiddlywiki.info file, as described here 
>> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Installing%20a%20plugin%20from%20the%20plugin%20library>"
>>  
>> (i.e. the step-by-step instructions that Mark references).  I'd have to 
>> call this a bug in the process.
>>
>> Moreover: the upgrade to version 5.1.23 of the wiki didn't fix the 
>> tiddler Info tab problem; tho the view is updated, that tab i questioned 
>> above still says "References" instead of "Backlinks" (not that i care 
>> anymore about this, now that i know they are synonyms; am just sayin'  
>> :-)
>>
>> /walt
>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 5:55:27 PM UTC Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 7:32:46 AM UTC-8 strikke...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 How do you intall plugins and themes then? I though that was different 
 for node.js wikis.


>>> Good point.
>>>
>>> ludwa6 must have installed them before the change.  
>>>
>>> If he/she upgrades to v14+,  they'll have to use the  tiddlywiki.info 
>>> file. Or add other plugins underneath the local plugins folder. 
>>> You can also drag and drop 3rd party plugins from other tiddlywikis.
>>>
>>>
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ooc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Side editor is great!
>
> Two things, how do you change the size and type of font in the editor 
> window. 
>

$:/Controlpanel > Appearance > Theme tweaks ... Font size

...which is how (I believe) you chane the font also in the standard editor. 
BUT it does change the font everywhere. If you have a specific size you 
only want for the SideEditor, you could hack it a little and add your own 
stylesheet with:

title: mystylesheet
tags: $:/tags/Stylesheet
type: text/css
text: .se-editor { font-size:20px; }

This will work also if there's an update to the plugin and you update it.
 

> Also I noticed it only creates a side editor on the side editor + icon. Is 
> there a way to get the window with all new tiddlers (ie journal)?
>

Haven't considered that as a separate feature actually. 
You could proably copy the special + button ( 
$:/plugins/TWaddle/SideEditor/new-btn ) and tweak it for a journal tiddler. 
Again, this is also likely to continue to work if there's an update to the 
plugin. 
Otherwise it is as Birthe suggests; create a journal tiddler like you 
always do and open the sideeditor from the > icon in that tiddler.

<:-)

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The tiddler $:/core/ui/TiddlerInfo/References has a caption field with the 
$:/language/TiddlerInfo/References/Caption transcluded. Maybe you tiddler 
is overwritten earlier?

Birthe

søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 19.24.58 UTC+1 skrev ludwa6:

> OK, with a TD instance 2 versions out-of-date already (0.0.13 vs 0.0.15), 
> i decided to bite the bullet and upgrade it to most current version.
>
> The Good News: it upgraded my out-of-date (v.5.1.16!) multi-files wiki to 
> current 5.1.23.
>
> The Bad News: you guys are right, Mark S. & Strikke : installation of 
> plugins from within TD, via Control Panel : Plugins: "Get More Plugins" 
> button, no longer works;  in fact one cannot even follow step 1 of the 
> rather complicated instruction-set it throws up, i.e.
> >  1. Identify the plugins you want to install using the *Plugins* tab of 
> > control 
> panel <https://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2FControlPanel> (*don't* install 
> the plugins from here, though).
> ... Because that tab does not even give a browsable list of plugins 
> anymore; click on tab just returns: "The official plugin library is 
> disabled when using the client-server configuration. Instead, plugins 
> should be installed via the tiddlywiki.info file, as described here 
> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Installing%20a%20plugin%20from%20the%20plugin%20library>"
>  
> (i.e. the step-by-step instructions that Mark references).  I'd have to 
> call this a bug in the process.
>
> Moreover: the upgrade to version 5.1.23 of the wiki didn't fix the tiddler 
> Info tab problem; tho the view is updated, that tab i questioned above 
> still says "References" instead of "Backlinks" (not that i care anymore 
> about this, now that i know they are synonyms; am just sayin'  :-)
>
> /walt
> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 5:55:27 PM UTC Mark S. wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 7:32:46 AM UTC-8 strikke...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> How do you intall plugins and themes then? I though that was different 
>>> for node.js wikis.
>>>
>>>
>> Good point.
>>
>> ludwa6 must have installed them before the change.  
>>
>> If he/she upgrades to v14+,  they'll have to use the  tiddlywiki.info 
>> file. Or add other plugins underneath the local plugins folder. 
>> You can also drag and drop 3rd party plugins from other tiddlywikis.
>>
>>
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Use the > button in viewtoolbar, the tiddler opens in sideeditor.

Birthe
søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 19.09.34 UTC+1 skrev ooc...@gmail.com:

> Side editor is great!
>
> Two things, how do you change the size and type of font in the editor 
> window. Also I noticed it only creates a side editor on the side editor + 
> icon. Is there a way to get the window with all new tiddlers (ie journal)?
>
> On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 7:34 AM strikke...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
>> @Mat,
>> Absolutely recommendable, in fact I do not understand how people do 
>> without SideEditor.
>>
>> Birthe
>> søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 12.43.02 UTC+1 skrev Mat:
>>
>>> Depends on what you mean with "writing machine" but I personally use the 
>>> SideEditor 
>>> <http://sideeditor.tiddlyspot.com/>all the time (I am the creator of 
>>> it).
>>>
>>> <:-)
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 19, 2021 at 6:12:34 PM UTC+1 ooc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I am looking for any plugins, themes or ideas to make my tiddlywiki 
 feel more like a writing machine. I am not a TW novice, I am a TW amoeba!  
 So advice towards this goal is much appreciated. 

 Adore tiddlywiki, it is like a deep ocean where I am barely treading 
 water. 

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OK, with a TD instance 2 versions out-of-date already (0.0.13 vs 0.0.15), i 
decided to bite the bullet and upgrade it to most current version.

The Good News: it upgraded my out-of-date (v.5.1.16!) multi-files wiki to 
current 5.1.23.

The Bad News: you guys are right, Mark S. & Strikke : installation of 
plugins from within TD, via Control Panel : Plugins: "Get More Plugins" 
button, no longer works;  in fact one cannot even follow step 1 of the 
rather complicated instruction-set it throws up, i.e.
>  1. Identify the plugins you want to install using the *Plugins* tab of 
> control 
panel <https://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2FControlPanel> (*don't* install the 
plugins from here, though).
... Because that tab does not even give a browsable list of plugins 
anymore; click on tab just returns: "The official plugin library is 
disabled when using the client-server configuration. Instead, plugins 
should be installed via the tiddlywiki.info file, as described here 
<https://tiddlywiki.com/#Installing%20a%20plugin%20from%20the%20plugin%20library>"
 
(i.e. the step-by-step instructions that Mark references).  I'd have to 
call this a bug in the process.

Moreover: the upgrade to version 5.1.23 of the wiki didn't fix the tiddler 
Info tab problem; tho the view is updated, that tab i questioned above 
still says "References" instead of "Backlinks" (not that i care anymore 
about this, now that i know they are synonyms; am just sayin'  :-)

/walt
On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 5:55:27 PM UTC Mark S. wrote:

> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 7:32:46 AM UTC-8 strikke...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> How do you intall plugins and themes then? I though that was different 
>> for node.js wikis.
>>
>>
> Good point.
>
> ludwa6 must have installed them before the change.  
>
> If he/she upgrades to v14+,  they'll have to use the  tiddlywiki.info 
> file. Or add other plugins underneath the local plugins folder. 
> You can also drag and drop 3rd party plugins from other tiddlywikis.
>
>
>

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Side editor is great!

Two things, how do you change the size and type of font in the editor
window. Also I noticed it only creates a side editor on the side editor +
icon. Is there a way to get the window with all new tiddlers (ie journal)?

On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 7:34 AM strikke...@gmail.com <
strikkeglad...@gmail.com> wrote:

> @Mat,
> Absolutely recommendable, in fact I do not understand how people do
> without SideEditor.
>
> Birthe
> søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 12.43.02 UTC+1 skrev Mat:
>
>> Depends on what you mean with "writing machine" but I personally use the 
>> SideEditor
>> <http://sideeditor.tiddlyspot.com/>all the time (I am the creator of it).
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>> On Friday, February 19, 2021 at 6:12:34 PM UTC+1 ooc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I am looking for any plugins, themes or ideas to make my tiddlywiki feel
>>> more like a writing machine. I am not a TW novice, I am a TW amoeba!  So
>>> advice towards this goal is much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Adore tiddlywiki, it is like a deep ocean where I am barely treading
>>> water.
>>>
>>> O
>>>
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On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 7:32:46 AM UTC-8 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:

> How do you intall plugins and themes then? I though that was different for 
> node.js wikis.
>
>
Good point.

ludwa6 must have installed them before the change.  

If he/she upgrades to v14+,  they'll have to use the  tiddlywiki.info file. 
Or add other plugins underneath the local plugins folder. 
You can also drag and drop 3rd party plugins from other tiddlywikis.


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In this particular instance @strikke , i don't have a lot of plugins... But 
i do have a few, all of which were installed from within TiddlyDesktop via 
the Control Panel : Plugins : "Get More Plugins" dialog.  /walt

On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 3:32:46 PM UTC strikke...@gmail.com wrote:

> How do you intall plugins and themes then? I though that was different for 
> node.js wikis.
>
>
> søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 16.12.28 UTC+1 skrev ludwa6:
>
>> It was a while ago, @strikke... But TiddlyDesktop is a clickety-click 
>> install, and then IIRC there's an option to decide how you want the wiki 
>> saved -i did one of each (single file vs individual tiddlers)- and that was 
>> that.  So it seems the node.js tech is transparent to the user.  Until it 
>> comes to upgrade time, that is... Now the plot thickens!
>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 3:07:50 PM UTC strikke...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> How did you install the node,js wiki in the first place? Didn't you need 
>>> npm for that also?
>>>
>>>
>>> søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 15.39.33 UTC+1 skrev ludwa6:
>>>
 Hm... Once again @Mat you've clued me in to a nuance that somehow 
 escaped my notice:  I've got two wiki's under management via TiddlyDesktop 
 that are different in this key respect (i.e. "References" vs "Backlinks" 
 tab) though i was under the impression that both are with most current 
 version.  The one that's still w/ "References" on that tab is not of the 
 single-file type, tho;  does this mean it's a node.js wiki?  Am still 
 fuzzy 
 on this point... And so i'm not clear from the upgrade documentation 
 <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Upgrading> if i should use that standard 
 procedure "Upgrading'" procedure or the "sudo npm update 
 <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Upgrading%20TiddlyWiki%20on%20Node.js>" 
 method (am on Mac, so npm doesn't work).  Complicated!

 On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 12:40:47 PM UTC Mat wrote:

> ludwa6 wrote:
>
>> Ahh... Following your breadcrumbs, @Mat, only now i see the 
>> "References" tab (a synonym for Backlinks, it appears)
>
>
> Someone has not been upgrading his TW to the latest version of TW, I 
> suspect... The tab is now named Backlinks :-)
>  
>
>> If i could pop that view w/ a simple key-combo, i'd call it the best 
>> of all possible worlds!
>>
>
> Prolly doable with the keyboard shortcuts 
> <https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#How%20to%20create%20keyboard%20shortcuts>
>  
> but I don't know how.
>
> <:-)
>


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I think I do other typo

If I don't missunderstand something

<$list filter="[all[tiddlers]!contains:idthen[TRUE]unique[]]" > 

El domingo, 21 de febrero de 2021 a las 18:04:55 UTC+1, Álvaro escribió:

> Agggh! I wrote "*all[current]*" but I wanted to write "*all[tiddlers]*"
>
> Now i put a more simple example which works in tiddlywikiDOTcom , there 
> are 6 tiddler with tag "HelloThere", then filter return 6 times "TRUE" but 
> It was trimmed with (undocumented) unique operator.
>
> {{{ [all[tiddlers]contains:tags[HelloThere]then[TRUE]unique[]] }}}
>
> If change the field tags to tagss the output of filter is empty.
>
> Now you can put your action inside of a listwidget.
>
> <$list filter="[all[tiddlers]contains:idthen[TRUE]unique[]]" >
> *Do X*
> 
> El domingo, 21 de febrero de 2021 a las 16:11:35 UTC+1, Mark S. escribió:
>
>> Try 
>>
>> [idthen[yes]else[no]compare:string:eq[no]]
>>
>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 1:47:35 AM UTC-8 Mat wrote:
>>
>>> Need some filter help. Pseudocode:
>>>
>>> <$vars value={{foo!!value}}>
>>> filter=Among all tiddlers with an id field, if there is no tiddler with 
>>> id: then do X but if there is a tiddler with id: then do 
>>> nothing
>>> 
>>>
>>> I assume it is some kind of then ... else construct but I can't quite 
>>> materialize it and I'm getting confused by how I loose the tiddler titles 
>>> if I look at their field values. Maybe I need something with the 
>>> subfilter operator but I'm not sure how... ?
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> <:-)
>>>
>>

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Hi Peter, 

At first guess, it looks as though you may be using standard WikiText (the 
default in TiddlyWiki), rather than Markdown? 

In this case, the triple-double-quote delimiters would be the syntax you 
want for hard linebreaks (or if you want Markdown-like syntax just for 
linebreaks, Mario's plugin). Mario's long link 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#Hard%20Linebreaks%20in%20WikiText:%5B%5BHard%20Linebreaks%20in%20WikiText%5D%5D%20%5B%5BHard%20Linebreaks%20with%20CSS%20-%20Example%5D%5D%20%5B%5BHard%20Linebreaks%20with%20CSS%5D%5D
brings up the relevant TiddlyWiki docs for that.

Quick excerpt from Hard Linebreaks in WikiText 
<https://tiddlywiki.com/#Hard%20Linebreaks%20in%20WikiText>:

""" 
This is a line 
and this is a new line 
while this is yet another line 
and this is the final one 
apart from this one 
"""

Hope that helps,

Chris
On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 10:44:21 AM UTC-5 peter...@gmail.com wrote:

> hi mario, 
>
> thanks for the very quick reply!  Of course, I would like to stay with the 
> standard :-). However, the first option does not work in my wiki, I just 
> downloaded an new empty.html TW wiki to test, and it does not work there 
> either, unfortunately. Entering "" works fine but is simply tool long 
> if used often and clutters the text. See screenshot. Any configurations I 
> missed out? I am working on a Win 10 machine.
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> PMario schrieb am Sonntag, 21. Februar 2021 um 16:31:05 UTC+1:
>
>> Hi,
>> If you use markdown, you should use the markdown standard, which is 
>> defined as 
>>
>> So just put 2 spaces at the end of the line and it will create a 
>> hard-linebreak
>>
>> If you want to do the same with TW syntax see:
>>
>>  - 
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Hard%20Linebreaks%20in%20WikiText:%5B%5BHard%20Linebreaks%20in%20WikiText%5D%5D%20%5B%5BHard%20Linebreaks%20with%20CSS%20-%20Example%5D%5D%20%5B%5BHard%20Linebreaks%20with%20CSS%5D%5D
>>
>> Or you can use my space-space-newline plugin. It works the same way as MD 
>> syntax.
>>
>>  - https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/space-space-newline/
>>
>> -mario
>>
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Agggh! I wrote "*all[current]*" but I wanted to write "*all[tiddlers]*"

Now i put a more simple example which works in tiddlywikiDOTcom , there are 
6 tiddler with tag "HelloThere", then filter return 6 times "TRUE" but It 
was trimmed with (undocumented) unique operator.

{{{ [all[tiddlers]contains:tags[HelloThere]then[TRUE]unique[]] }}}

If change the field tags to tagss the output of filter is empty.

Now you can put your action inside of a listwidget.

<$list filter="[all[tiddlers]contains:idthen[TRUE]unique[]]" >
*Do X*

El domingo, 21 de febrero de 2021 a las 16:11:35 UTC+1, Mark S. escribió:

> Try 
>
> [idthen[yes]else[no]compare:string:eq[no]]
>
> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 1:47:35 AM UTC-8 Mat wrote:
>
>> Need some filter help. Pseudocode:
>>
>> <$vars value={{foo!!value}}>
>> filter=Among all tiddlers with an id field, if there is no tiddler with 
>> id: then do X but if there is a tiddler with id: then do 
>> nothing
>> 
>>
>> I assume it is some kind of then ... else construct but I can't quite 
>> materialize it and I'm getting confused by how I loose the tiddler titles 
>> if I look at their field values. Maybe I need something with the 
>> subfilter operator but I'm not sure how... ?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> <:-)
>>
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On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 4:33 PM Mohamed Amin  wrote:

> Thanks a lot Mohammad, I really appreciate your answer


You are welcome!

>
> "subfilter" seems VERY powerful and I didn't use it before now
>

I subfilter is very powerful as you may use it in combination with other
filters like

<$list filter="[subfilter{!!query}] +[limit[2]]" variable=dd>
This will limit outputs to two items.

Best wishes
Mohammad


> Thanks a agian
> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 2:38:34 PM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> <$list filter="[subfilter{!!query}]" variable=dd>
>> <>
>> 
>>
>> The last > was forgotten in previous post
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 4:06 PM Mohammad Rahmani 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Instead of
>>> *\define me()*
>>> *{{!!query}}*
>>> *\end*
>>>
>>>
>>> *<$wikify name="ss" text=<> >*
>>>
>>> * <$list filter=<> variable="dd" >*
>>> *<> *
>>> * *
>>> * *
>>>
>>> You should be able to use a much simpler solution
>>>
>>> <$list filter="[subfilter{!!query}]" variable=dd>
>>> <>
>>> >>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 3:40 PM Mohamed Amin  wrote:
>>>
 OK, I figured it our, below is how I get it by using a Macro and
 "wikify" widget:

 *1- Put the "Query" in side a field (or tiddler) without Quotations *
 query=[all[]tag[B]]

 *2- Create a Macro to prepare the "Transclusion" string:-*
 \define me()
 {{!!query}}
 \end

 *3- Excute the "Transclusion" to get the "final value" :*
 <$wikify name="ss" text=<> >

 *4- Use the "final value" inside your filter :*
 <$list filter=<> variable="dd" >


 *\define me()*
 *{{!!query}}*
 *\end*


 *<$wikify name="ss" text=<> >*

 * <$list filter=<> variable="dd" >*
 *<> *
 * *
 * *


 Regards
 On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 1:10:00 PM UTC+2 Mohamed Amin wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Suppose that I've a single "Filter Query" which be used inside a lot
> of Tiddlers.
> Is there a way to save that query inside a "separated tiddler" or
> "field", so If I need to change/correct it, I can change it from one 
> single
> location?
>
> *For example: *a query like:
> *QUERY="[enlist{$TdlrName$!!elements}each[aliases]get[aliases]]
> +[enlist-input[]trim[]each:value[]]"*
>
> 1- used in one Tiddler as =
> *<$list filter=QUERY >*
> *do something*
> **
>
> 2- and in another Tiddler as =
> *<$set filter=QUERY variable="var">*
> *Do another thing*
> **
>
> Also used in many other Tiddlers.
>
> Now, can I implement some thing like the below, so I can put it inside
> all affected tiddlers?
>
> *<$list filter={{!!QueryInsideField}} >*
> *do something*
> **
>
> Regards
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I used to get this error when I was using Tekan plug in.

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 10:27 PM Douglas Glenn  wrote:

> I get this as a result selecting 'Plugins' tab on the control panel, the
> select 'Get more plugins'
>
> Up pops this window.
>
> [image: pluginErr.jpg]
>
> It may simply be interference from another plugin. It used to work fine
> with both repositories. I have not installed any plugin this year I am
> aware of. I'd finished adding any in December 2020. This time I wanted some
> more theme choices. But after selecting them and closing the library the
> popup tab remained without the close button on it.
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hi mario, 

thanks for the very quick reply!  Of course, I would like to stay with the 
standard :-). However, the first option does not work in my wiki, I just 
downloaded an new empty.html TW wiki to test, and it does not work there 
either, unfortunately. Entering "" works fine but is simply tool long 
if used often and clutters the text. See screenshot. Any configurations I 
missed out? I am working on a Win 10 machine.

Peter



PMario schrieb am Sonntag, 21. Februar 2021 um 16:31:05 UTC+1:

> Hi,
> If you use markdown, you should use the markdown standard, which is 
> defined as 
>
> So just put 2 spaces at the end of the line and it will create a 
> hard-linebreak
>
> If you want to do the same with TW syntax see:
>
>  - 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Hard%20Linebreaks%20in%20WikiText:%5B%5BHard%20Linebreaks%20in%20WikiText%5D%5D%20%5B%5BHard%20Linebreaks%20with%20CSS%20-%20Example%5D%5D%20%5B%5BHard%20Linebreaks%20with%20CSS%5D%5D
>
> Or you can use my space-space-newline plugin. It works the same way as MD 
> syntax.
>
>  - https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/space-space-newline/
>
> -mario
>
>

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How do you intall plugins and themes then? I though that was different for 
node.js wikis.


søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 16.12.28 UTC+1 skrev ludwa6:

> It was a while ago, @strikke... But TiddlyDesktop is a clickety-click 
> install, and then IIRC there's an option to decide how you want the wiki 
> saved -i did one of each (single file vs individual tiddlers)- and that was 
> that.  So it seems the node.js tech is transparent to the user.  Until it 
> comes to upgrade time, that is... Now the plot thickens!
> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 3:07:50 PM UTC strikke...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> How did you install the node,js wiki in the first place? Didn't you need 
>> npm for that also?
>>
>>
>> søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 15.39.33 UTC+1 skrev ludwa6:
>>
>>> Hm... Once again @Mat you've clued me in to a nuance that somehow 
>>> escaped my notice:  I've got two wiki's under management via TiddlyDesktop 
>>> that are different in this key respect (i.e. "References" vs "Backlinks" 
>>> tab) though i was under the impression that both are with most current 
>>> version.  The one that's still w/ "References" on that tab is not of the 
>>> single-file type, tho;  does this mean it's a node.js wiki?  Am still fuzzy 
>>> on this point... And so i'm not clear from the upgrade documentation 
>>> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Upgrading> if i should use that standard 
>>> procedure "Upgrading'" procedure or the "sudo npm update 
>>> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Upgrading%20TiddlyWiki%20on%20Node.js>" method 
>>> (am on Mac, so npm doesn't work).  Complicated!
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 12:40:47 PM UTC Mat wrote:
>>>
 ludwa6 wrote:

> Ahh... Following your breadcrumbs, @Mat, only now i see the 
> "References" tab (a synonym for Backlinks, it appears)


 Someone has not been upgrading his TW to the latest version of TW, I 
 suspect... The tab is now named Backlinks :-)
  

> If i could pop that view w/ a simple key-combo, i'd call it the best 
> of all possible worlds!
>

 Prolly doable with the keyboard shortcuts 
 <https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#How%20to%20create%20keyboard%20shortcuts>
  
 but I don't know how.

 <:-)

>>>

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Hi,
If you use markdown, you should use the markdown standard, which is defined 
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So just put 2 spaces at the end of the line and it will create a 
hard-linebreak

If you want to do the same with TW syntax see:

 - 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#Hard%20Linebreaks%20in%20WikiText:%5B%5BHard%20Linebreaks%20in%20WikiText%5D%5D%20%5B%5BHard%20Linebreaks%20with%20CSS%20-%20Example%5D%5D%20%5B%5BHard%20Linebreaks%20with%20CSS%5D%5D

Or you can use my space-space-newline plugin. It works the same way as MD 
syntax.

 - https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/space-space-newline/

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TD carries it's own edition of TW. So to upgrade TW you need to upgrade TD. 
Currently TD is at 5.1.23-prerelease .


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> It was a while ago, @strikke... But TiddlyDesktop is a clickety-click 
> install, and then IIRC there's an option to decide how you want the wiki 
> saved -i did one of each (single file vs individual tiddlers)- and that was 
> that.  So it seems the node.js tech is transparent to the user.  Until it 
> comes to upgrade time, that is... Now the plot thickens!
> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 3:07:50 PM UTC strikke...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> How did you install the node,js wiki in the first place? Didn't you need 
>> npm for that also?
>>
>>
>> søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 15.39.33 UTC+1 skrev ludwa6:
>>
>>> Hm... Once again @Mat you've clued me in to a nuance that somehow 
>>> escaped my notice:  I've got two wiki's under management via TiddlyDesktop 
>>> that are different in this key respect (i.e. "References" vs "Backlinks" 
>>> tab) though i was under the impression that both are with most current 
>>> version.  The one that's still w/ "References" on that tab is not of the 
>>> single-file type, tho;  does this mean it's a node.js wiki?  Am still fuzzy 
>>> on this point... And so i'm not clear from the upgrade documentation 
>>> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Upgrading> if i should use that standard 
>>> procedure "Upgrading'" procedure or the "sudo npm update 
>>> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Upgrading%20TiddlyWiki%20on%20Node.js>" method 
>>> (am on Mac, so npm doesn't work).  Complicated!
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 12:40:47 PM UTC Mat wrote:
>>>
 ludwa6 wrote:

> Ahh... Following your breadcrumbs, @Mat, only now i see the 
> "References" tab (a synonym for Backlinks, it appears)


 Someone has not been upgrading his TW to the latest version of TW, I 
 suspect... The tab is now named Backlinks :-)
  

> If i could pop that view w/ a simple key-combo, i'd call it the best 
> of all possible worlds!
>

 Prolly doable with the keyboard shortcuts 
 <https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#How%20to%20create%20keyboard%20shortcuts>
  
 but I don't know how.

 <:-)

>>>

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Hi all, I am a newbie to tiddlywiki and have no experience with javascript 
but with other programming languages. Tiddlywiki is a fascinating tool, 
which I would like to try out for my personal journal and to build a know 
how database. Entering text is very quick using markdown, however I am 
missing the linebreak short cut to enter a . 

I found the Keyboard widget (and the Keyboard Shortcut Tiddlers), but have 
no clue how to set up. I made a first tiddler with the title 
$:/config/shortcuts/ShiftEnter showing up in the config page with 
"Shift-Enter" as shortcut (like other keyboard shortcuts). However: where 
do I have to enter the action "enter a " and how does it look like? I 
guess it is a piece of javascript, but how does it look like and where does 
it go? Another tiddler, text field of the tiddler mentioned,...?

I tried a second tiddler with the title $:/config/ShortcutInfo/ShiftEnter, 
tag name $:/tags/KeboardShortcut

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It was a while ago, @strikke... But TiddlyDesktop is a clickety-click 
install, and then IIRC there's an option to decide how you want the wiki 
saved -i did one of each (single file vs individual tiddlers)- and that was 
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On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 3:07:50 PM UTC strikke...@gmail.com wrote:

> How did you install the node,js wiki in the first place? Didn't you need 
> npm for that also?
>
>
> søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 15.39.33 UTC+1 skrev ludwa6:
>
>> Hm... Once again @Mat you've clued me in to a nuance that somehow escaped 
>> my notice:  I've got two wiki's under management via TiddlyDesktop that are 
>> different in this key respect (i.e. "References" vs "Backlinks" tab) though 
>> i was under the impression that both are with most current version.  The 
>> one that's still w/ "References" on that tab is not of the single-file 
>> type, tho;  does this mean it's a node.js wiki?  Am still fuzzy on this 
>> point... And so i'm not clear from the upgrade documentation 
>> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Upgrading> if i should use that standard 
>> procedure "Upgrading'" procedure or the "sudo npm update 
>> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Upgrading%20TiddlyWiki%20on%20Node.js>" method 
>> (am on Mac, so npm doesn't work).  Complicated!
>>
>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 12:40:47 PM UTC Mat wrote:
>>
>>> ludwa6 wrote:
>>>
 Ahh... Following your breadcrumbs, @Mat, only now i see the 
 "References" tab (a synonym for Backlinks, it appears)
>>>
>>>
>>> Someone has not been upgrading his TW to the latest version of TW, I 
>>> suspect... The tab is now named Backlinks :-)
>>>  
>>>
 If i could pop that view w/ a simple key-combo, i'd call it the best of 
 all possible worlds!

>>>
>>> Prolly doable with the keyboard shortcuts 
>>> <https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#How%20to%20create%20keyboard%20shortcuts>
>>>  
>>> but I don't know how.
>>>
>>> <:-)
>>>
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Try 

[idthen[yes]else[no]compare:string:eq[no]]

On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 1:47:35 AM UTC-8 Mat wrote:

> Need some filter help. Pseudocode:
>
> <$vars value={{foo!!value}}>
> filter=Among all tiddlers with an id field, if there is no tiddler with 
> id: then do X but if there is a tiddler with id: then do 
> nothing
> 
>
> I assume it is some kind of then ... else construct but I can't quite 
> materialize it and I'm getting confused by how I loose the tiddler titles 
> if I look at their field values. Maybe I need something with the subfilter 
> operator but I'm not sure how... ?
>
> Thank you.
>
> <:-)
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How did you install the node,js wiki in the first place? Didn't you need 
npm for that also?


søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 15.39.33 UTC+1 skrev ludwa6:

> Hm... Once again @Mat you've clued me in to a nuance that somehow escaped 
> my notice:  I've got two wiki's under management via TiddlyDesktop that are 
> different in this key respect (i.e. "References" vs "Backlinks" tab) though 
> i was under the impression that both are with most current version.  The 
> one that's still w/ "References" on that tab is not of the single-file 
> type, tho;  does this mean it's a node.js wiki?  Am still fuzzy on this 
> point... And so i'm not clear from the upgrade documentation 
> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Upgrading> if i should use that standard 
> procedure "Upgrading'" procedure or the "sudo npm update 
> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Upgrading%20TiddlyWiki%20on%20Node.js>" method 
> (am on Mac, so npm doesn't work).  Complicated!
>
> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 12:40:47 PM UTC Mat wrote:
>
>> ludwa6 wrote:
>>
>>> Ahh... Following your breadcrumbs, @Mat, only now i see the "References" 
>>> tab (a synonym for Backlinks, it appears)
>>
>>
>> Someone has not been upgrading his TW to the latest version of TW, I 
>> suspect... The tab is now named Backlinks :-)
>>  
>>
>>> If i could pop that view w/ a simple key-combo, i'd call it the best of 
>>> all possible worlds!
>>>
>>
>> Prolly doable with the keyboard shortcuts 
>> <https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#How%20to%20create%20keyboard%20shortcuts>
>>  
>> but I don't know how.
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>

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> [...] The one that's still w/ "References" on that tab is not of the 
> single-file type, tho;  does this mean it's a node.js wiki?  Am still fuzzy 
> on this point... And so i'm not clear from the upgrade documentation 
> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Upgrading> if i should use that standard 
> procedure "Upgrading'" procedure or the "sudo npm update 
> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Upgrading%20TiddlyWiki%20on%20Node.js>" method 
> (am on Mac, so npm doesn't work).  Complicated!
>

Yea, so if it is not single file TW, then it is the node.js version of TW. 
I don't use the node.js version so someone else will have to answer about 
how to upgrade it.

<:-)

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Hm... Once again @Mat you've clued me in to a nuance that somehow escaped 
my notice:  I've got two wiki's under management via TiddlyDesktop that are 
different in this key respect (i.e. "References" vs "Backlinks" tab) though 
i was under the impression that both are with most current version.  The 
one that's still w/ "References" on that tab is not of the single-file 
type, tho;  does this mean it's a node.js wiki?  Am still fuzzy on this 
point... And so i'm not clear from the upgrade documentation 
<https://tiddlywiki.com/#Upgrading> if i should use that standard procedure 
"Upgrading'" procedure or the "sudo npm update 
<https://tiddlywiki.com/#Upgrading%20TiddlyWiki%20on%20Node.js>" method (am 
on Mac, so npm doesn't work).  Complicated!

On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 12:40:47 PM UTC Mat wrote:

> ludwa6 wrote:
>
>> Ahh... Following your breadcrumbs, @Mat, only now i see the "References" 
>> tab (a synonym for Backlinks, it appears)
>
>
> Someone has not been upgrading his TW to the latest version of TW, I 
> suspect... The tab is now named Backlinks :-)
>  
>
>> If i could pop that view w/ a simple key-combo, i'd call it the best of 
>> all possible worlds!
>>
>
> Prolly doable with the keyboard shortcuts 
> <https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#How%20to%20create%20keyboard%20shortcuts> 
> but I don't know how.
>
> <:-)
>

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I appreciate your help but the it is only if no tiddler *at all *has the 
id: that something should happen.
Because I take it you mean that your filtered transclusion should be used 
like so:

<$list filter="[has[id]]">
{{{ [all[current]!contains:id ... ] }}}


...but then this will show all the tids with an id field that has another 
value than 
Or do I misunderstand something?

<:-)
On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 2:37:30 PM UTC+1 Álvaro wrote:

> Have you tried with contains operator?
>
> In direct filter transclusion you can use something like that
> {{{ [all[current]!contains:idthen[I have to do X]else[] }}}
>
> Then you can use the filter in a listwidget and use the variable created 
> by the listwidget.
>
> El domingo, 21 de febrero de 2021 a las 10:47:35 UTC+1, Mat escribió:
>
>> Need some filter help. Pseudocode:
>>
>> <$vars value={{foo!!value}}>
>> filter=Among all tiddlers with an id field, if there is no tiddler with 
>> id: then do X but if there is a tiddler with id: then do 
>> nothing
>> 
>>
>> I assume it is some kind of then ... else construct but I can't quite 
>> materialize it and I'm getting confused by how I loose the tiddler titles 
>> if I look at their field values. Maybe I need something with the 
>> subfilter operator but I'm not sure how... ?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> <:-)
>>
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Have you tried with contains operator?

In direct filter transclusion you can use something like that
{{{ [all[current]!contains:idthen[I have to do X]else[] }}}

Then you can use the filter in a listwidget and use the variable created by 
the listwidget.

El domingo, 21 de febrero de 2021 a las 10:47:35 UTC+1, Mat escribió:

> Need some filter help. Pseudocode:
>
> <$vars value={{foo!!value}}>
> filter=Among all tiddlers with an id field, if there is no tiddler with 
> id: then do X but if there is a tiddler with id: then do 
> nothing
> 
>
> I assume it is some kind of then ... else construct but I can't quite 
> materialize it and I'm getting confused by how I loose the tiddler titles 
> if I look at their field values. Maybe I need something with the subfilter 
> operator but I'm not sure how... ?
>
> Thank you.
>
> <:-)
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@Mat,
Absolutely recommendable, in fact I do not understand how people do without 
SideEditor.

Birthe
søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 12.43.02 UTC+1 skrev Mat:

> Depends on what you mean with "writing machine" but I personally use the 
> SideEditor 
> <http://sideeditor.tiddlyspot.com/>all the time (I am the creator of it).
>
> <:-)
>
> On Friday, February 19, 2021 at 6:12:34 PM UTC+1 ooc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I am looking for any plugins, themes or ideas to make my tiddlywiki feel 
>> more like a writing machine. I am not a TW novice, I am a TW amoeba!  So 
>> advice towards this goal is much appreciated. 
>>
>> Adore tiddlywiki, it is like a deep ocean where I am barely treading 
>> water. 
>>
>> O
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Thanks a million Mat for your answer, it's very surprising it is working 
with me now as I tried it before with no luck.

realy appreciate your help
On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 3:04:12 PM UTC+2 Mat wrote:

> Probably even:
>
> <$list filter={{!!query}}>
>
> 
>
> The empty line is important if you want the result as a list. Note that 
> the !!query only refers to the *current* tiddlers query field. In your OP 
> you mention reusing it in any tiddler. So if you want one filter to be 
> reused in any tiddler, you can put the filter in a separate tiddler and 
> then refer to it as filter={{mytiddler}}.
>
>
> <:-)
> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 1:38:34 PM UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> <$list filter="[subfilter{!!query}]" variable=dd>
>> <>
>> 
>>
>> The last > was forgotten in previous post
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 4:06 PM Mohammad Rahmani  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Instead of
>>> *\define me()*
>>> *{{!!query}}*
>>> *\end*
>>>
>>>
>>> *<$wikify name="ss" text=<> >*
>>>
>>> * <$list filter=<> variable="dd" >*
>>> *<> *
>>> * *
>>> * *
>>>
>>> You should be able to use a much simpler solution
>>>
>>> <$list filter="[subfilter{!!query}]" variable=dd>
>>> <>
>>> >>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 3:40 PM Mohamed Amin  wrote:
>>>
 OK, I figured it our, below is how I get it by using a Macro and 
 "wikify" widget:

 *1- Put the "Query" in side a field (or tiddler) without Quotations *
 query=[all[]tag[B]]

 *2- Create a Macro to prepare the "Transclusion" string:-*
 \define me()
 {{!!query}}
 \end

 *3- Excute the "Transclusion" to get the "final value" :*
 <$wikify name="ss" text=<> >

 *4- Use the "final value" inside your filter :*
 <$list filter=<> variable="dd" >


 *\define me()*
 *{{!!query}}*
 *\end*


 *<$wikify name="ss" text=<> >*

 * <$list filter=<> variable="dd" >*
 *<> *
 * *
 * *


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 On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 1:10:00 PM UTC+2 Mohamed Amin wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Suppose that I've a single "Filter Query" which be used inside a lot 
> of Tiddlers.
> Is there a way to save that query inside a "separated tiddler" or 
> "field", so If I need to change/correct it, I can change it from one 
> single 
> location?
>
> *For example: *a query like:
> *QUERY="[enlist{$TdlrName$!!elements}each[aliases]get[aliases]] 
> +[enlist-input[]trim[]each:value[]]"*
>
> 1- used in one Tiddler as =
> *<$list filter=QUERY >*
> *do something*
> **
>
> 2- and in another Tiddler as =
> *<$set filter=QUERY variable="var">*
> *Do another thing*
> **
>
> Also used in many other Tiddlers.
>
> Now, can I implement some thing like the below, so I can put it inside 
> all affected tiddlers?
>
> *<$list filter={{!!QueryInsideField}} >*
> *do something*
> **
>
> Regards
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I understand. I do not know enough however to know if there is a difference 
in using tags or alias field. How that would impact the performance. I 
think someone did a test of that long time ago. unfortunately I was not 
able to find the result by searching.

Birthe

søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 13.59.52 UTC+1 skrev moros...@gmail.com:

> @Birthe 
>
> "Now wouldn't tags for aliases put a hefty burden on exactly the speed of 
> use?"
>
> I guess this will somehow impact performance, but if you can't find the 
> icons you need in a short amount of time, I think the speed of the app 
> becomes somewhat irrelevant. 
>
> It may be relevant only if you want to visually parse all the pages 
> searching for your desired icons.
>
> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 2:40:39 PM UTC+2 strikke...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Icons are lovely, lots of icons even better. The best part being the 
>> beautiful presentation and ease of use. I am fascinated by the speed of it 
>> all despite it being 35.7 mb big last time I downloaded. 
>>
>> Now wouldn't tags for aliases put a hefty burden on exactly the speed of 
>> use?
>>
>> Birthe
>>
>> søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 13.25.39 UTC+1 skrev moros...@gmail.com:
>>
>>> So, as I said previously, I want to add metadata to icons, especially 
>>> "aliases", but I don't know what is the better method: 
>>>
>>>
>>>- to add them as tags or 
>>>- as a list in a field called "aliases". 
>>>- or maybe both?
>>>
>>>
>>> What do you think? 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 1:24:01 PM UTC+2 moros...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 @Pit.W. Thanks a lot Pit! I feel a little embarrassed to be honest. 
 After all, ANYONE can accomplish this with a little effort and knowledge 
 (just a little). But thanks anyway! I'm glad that you (and others) find my 
 work useful. I consider this my tribute to TiddlyWiki app and its creators 
 and also to our community. 

 @Mat And it may become even crazier! ;)

 @Joshua You're welcome! I also have discovered metadata for some of the 
 libraries, but I was thinking of an universal catalog. I want to add 
 metadata for the entire library, at least for generic icons (e.g. house, 
 book, people etc.) and their variants. And I want to do it in a single 
 operation, with big JSON file that contain all the icons.

 On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 2:24:21 AM UTC+2 joshua@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Awesome, thank you for the example data file.
>
> I have meta-data available for a few of the libraries I was 
> experimenting with. For example, for GameIcons.net (which I think you 
> have 
> imported), their website-catalog has tags for all the icons. I used Node 
> and an 'R' script to manually download and partse each web-page, extract 
> the meta-data (tags, etc), and then append that to the final Tiddler 
> data. 
> (Repo: https://github.com/joshuafontany/TW5-SVG-Scripts).
>
> This allowed me to extract, for example, the below block of the
>
> ```
> caption: police-badge
> description: Symbol of law enforcement. The best moment to show it, 
> it's to shout "FBI" and break the door with a kick.
> name: andymeneely/police-badge
> tags: $:/tags/Icon police shield symbol
> title: $:/icons/gameicons/andymeneely/police-badge
> type: 
> ```
>
> I have that for the whole library. The FontAwesome5 svg files also 
> have a separate meta-data YAML file that I parsed for the meta-data.
>
> I will clone your repo and see how I can integrate the meta-data I 
> have available!
>
> Best,
> Joshua Fontany
> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 5:39:14 AM UTC-8 moros...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> @Joshua As I said before, I've processed the original SVG files with 
>> some scripts made in Windows 10 Powershell. All operations are done with 
>> PowerShell: creating files, replacing content, creating the TiddlyWiki 
>> formal structure and adding content. The final output is a JSON file 
>> which 
>> includes an array of JS objects (every object is an icon). You can see 
>> below an example:
>>
>> {
>>
>> "title":"$:/images/google-material-design/action/filled/18px/star-rate",
>> "tags":"$:/tags/Image Icons Images SVG",
>> "caption":"star-rate",
>> "collection":"filled",
>> "category":"Action",
>> "library":"Google Material Design",
>> "library_version":"5.9.55",
>> "text":"> class=\"tc-image-gmd-star-rate tc-image-button\" viewBox=\"0 0 18 18\" 
>> width=\"18\">> 7H3l3.71 2.64L5.29 14z\"/>> fill=\"none\"/>"
>> }
>> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 3:25:32 PM UTC+2 moros...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> @Joshua Thanks! Can you explain in more detail what you have in 
>>> mind? I didn't understand very well. I need aliases for icons. I found 
>>> this 
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Probably even:

<$list filter={{!!query}}>



The empty line is important if you want the result as a list. Note that the 
!!query only refers to the *current* tiddlers query field. In your OP you 
mention reusing it in any tiddler. So if you want one filter to be reused 
in any tiddler, you can put the filter in a separate tiddler and then refer 
to it as filter={{mytiddler}}.


<:-)
On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 1:38:34 PM UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:

> <$list filter="[subfilter{!!query}]" variable=dd>
> <>
> 
>
> The last > was forgotten in previous post
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 4:06 PM Mohammad Rahmani  
> wrote:
>
>> Instead of
>> *\define me()*
>> *{{!!query}}*
>> *\end*
>>
>>
>> *<$wikify name="ss" text=<> >*
>>
>> * <$list filter=<> variable="dd" >*
>> *<> *
>> * *
>> * *
>>
>> You should be able to use a much simpler solution
>>
>> <$list filter="[subfilter{!!query}]" variable=dd>
>> <>
>> >
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 3:40 PM Mohamed Amin  wrote:
>>
>>> OK, I figured it our, below is how I get it by using a Macro and 
>>> "wikify" widget:
>>>
>>> *1- Put the "Query" in side a field (or tiddler) without Quotations *
>>> query=[all[]tag[B]]
>>>
>>> *2- Create a Macro to prepare the "Transclusion" string:-*
>>> \define me()
>>> {{!!query}}
>>> \end
>>>
>>> *3- Excute the "Transclusion" to get the "final value" :*
>>> <$wikify name="ss" text=<> >
>>>
>>> *4- Use the "final value" inside your filter :*
>>> <$list filter=<> variable="dd" >
>>>
>>>
>>> *\define me()*
>>> *{{!!query}}*
>>> *\end*
>>>
>>>
>>> *<$wikify name="ss" text=<> >*
>>>
>>> * <$list filter=<> variable="dd" >*
>>> *<> *
>>> * *
>>> * *
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 1:10:00 PM UTC+2 Mohamed Amin wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,

 Suppose that I've a single "Filter Query" which be used inside a lot of 
 Tiddlers.
 Is there a way to save that query inside a "separated tiddler" or 
 "field", so If I need to change/correct it, I can change it from one 
 single 
 location?

 *For example: *a query like:
 *QUERY="[enlist{$TdlrName$!!elements}each[aliases]get[aliases]] 
 +[enlist-input[]trim[]each:value[]]"*

 1- used in one Tiddler as =
 *<$list filter=QUERY >*
 *do something*
 **

 2- and in another Tiddler as =
 *<$set filter=QUERY variable="var">*
 *Do another thing*
 **

 Also used in many other Tiddlers.

 Now, can I implement some thing like the below, so I can put it inside 
 all affected tiddlers?

 *<$list filter={{!!QueryInsideField}} >*
 *do something*
 **

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Thanks a lot Mohammad, I really appreciate your answer

"subfilter" seems VERY powerful and I didn't use it before now

Thanks a agian
On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 2:38:34 PM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:

> <$list filter="[subfilter{!!query}]" variable=dd>
> <>
> 
>
> The last > was forgotten in previous post
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 4:06 PM Mohammad Rahmani  
> wrote:
>
>> Instead of
>> *\define me()*
>> *{{!!query}}*
>> *\end*
>>
>>
>> *<$wikify name="ss" text=<> >*
>>
>> * <$list filter=<> variable="dd" >*
>> *<> *
>> * *
>> * *
>>
>> You should be able to use a much simpler solution
>>
>> <$list filter="[subfilter{!!query}]" variable=dd>
>> <>
>> >
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 3:40 PM Mohamed Amin  wrote:
>>
>>> OK, I figured it our, below is how I get it by using a Macro and 
>>> "wikify" widget:
>>>
>>> *1- Put the "Query" in side a field (or tiddler) without Quotations *
>>> query=[all[]tag[B]]
>>>
>>> *2- Create a Macro to prepare the "Transclusion" string:-*
>>> \define me()
>>> {{!!query}}
>>> \end
>>>
>>> *3- Excute the "Transclusion" to get the "final value" :*
>>> <$wikify name="ss" text=<> >
>>>
>>> *4- Use the "final value" inside your filter :*
>>> <$list filter=<> variable="dd" >
>>>
>>>
>>> *\define me()*
>>> *{{!!query}}*
>>> *\end*
>>>
>>>
>>> *<$wikify name="ss" text=<> >*
>>>
>>> * <$list filter=<> variable="dd" >*
>>> *<> *
>>> * *
>>> * *
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 1:10:00 PM UTC+2 Mohamed Amin wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,

 Suppose that I've a single "Filter Query" which be used inside a lot of 
 Tiddlers.
 Is there a way to save that query inside a "separated tiddler" or 
 "field", so If I need to change/correct it, I can change it from one 
 single 
 location?

 *For example: *a query like:
 *QUERY="[enlist{$TdlrName$!!elements}each[aliases]get[aliases]] 
 +[enlist-input[]trim[]each:value[]]"*

 1- used in one Tiddler as =
 *<$list filter=QUERY >*
 *do something*
 **

 2- and in another Tiddler as =
 *<$set filter=QUERY variable="var">*
 *Do another thing*
 **

 Also used in many other Tiddlers.

 Now, can I implement some thing like the below, so I can put it inside 
 all affected tiddlers?

 *<$list filter={{!!QueryInsideField}} >*
 *do something*
 **

 Regards

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@Birthe 

"Now wouldn't tags for aliases put a hefty burden on exactly the speed of 
use?"

I guess this will somehow impact performance, but if you can't find the 
icons you need in a short amount of time, I think the speed of the app 
becomes somewhat irrelevant. 

It may be relevant only if you want to visually parse all the pages 
searching for your desired icons.

On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 2:40:39 PM UTC+2 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:

> Icons are lovely, lots of icons even better. The best part being the 
> beautiful presentation and ease of use. I am fascinated by the speed of it 
> all despite it being 35.7 mb big last time I downloaded. 
>
> Now wouldn't tags for aliases put a hefty burden on exactly the speed of 
> use?
>
> Birthe
>
> søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 13.25.39 UTC+1 skrev moros...@gmail.com:
>
>> So, as I said previously, I want to add metadata to icons, especially 
>> "aliases", but I don't know what is the better method: 
>>
>>
>>- to add them as tags or 
>>- as a list in a field called "aliases". 
>>- or maybe both?
>>
>>
>> What do you think? 
>>
>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 1:24:01 PM UTC+2 moros...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> @Pit.W. Thanks a lot Pit! I feel a little embarrassed to be honest. 
>>> After all, ANYONE can accomplish this with a little effort and knowledge 
>>> (just a little). But thanks anyway! I'm glad that you (and others) find my 
>>> work useful. I consider this my tribute to TiddlyWiki app and its creators 
>>> and also to our community. 
>>>
>>> @Mat And it may become even crazier! ;)
>>>
>>> @Joshua You're welcome! I also have discovered metadata for some of the 
>>> libraries, but I was thinking of an universal catalog. I want to add 
>>> metadata for the entire library, at least for generic icons (e.g. house, 
>>> book, people etc.) and their variants. And I want to do it in a single 
>>> operation, with big JSON file that contain all the icons.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 2:24:21 AM UTC+2 joshua@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Awesome, thank you for the example data file.

 I have meta-data available for a few of the libraries I was 
 experimenting with. For example, for GameIcons.net (which I think you have 
 imported), their website-catalog has tags for all the icons. I used Node 
 and an 'R' script to manually download and partse each web-page, extract 
 the meta-data (tags, etc), and then append that to the final Tiddler data. 
 (Repo: https://github.com/joshuafontany/TW5-SVG-Scripts).

 This allowed me to extract, for example, the below block of the

 ```
 caption: police-badge
 description: Symbol of law enforcement. The best moment to show it, 
 it's to shout "FBI" and break the door with a kick.
 name: andymeneely/police-badge
 tags: $:/tags/Icon police shield symbol
 title: $:/icons/gameicons/andymeneely/police-badge
 type: 
 ```

 I have that for the whole library. The FontAwesome5 svg files also have 
 a separate meta-data YAML file that I parsed for the meta-data.

 I will clone your repo and see how I can integrate the meta-data I have 
 available!

 Best,
 Joshua Fontany
 On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 5:39:14 AM UTC-8 moros...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> @Joshua As I said before, I've processed the original SVG files with 
> some scripts made in Windows 10 Powershell. All operations are done with 
> PowerShell: creating files, replacing content, creating the TiddlyWiki 
> formal structure and adding content. The final output is a JSON file 
> which 
> includes an array of JS objects (every object is an icon). You can see 
> below an example:
>
> {
>
> "title":"$:/images/google-material-design/action/filled/18px/star-rate",
> "tags":"$:/tags/Image Icons Images SVG",
> "caption":"star-rate",
> "collection":"filled",
> "category":"Action",
> "library":"Google Material Design",
> "library_version":"5.9.55",
> "text":" class=\"tc-image-gmd-star-rate tc-image-button\" viewBox=\"0 0 18 18\" 
> width=\"18\"> 7H3l3.71 2.64L5.29 14z\"/>"
> }
> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 3:25:32 PM UTC+2 moros...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> @Joshua Thanks! Can you explain in more detail what you have in mind? 
>> I didn't understand very well. I need aliases for icons. I found this 
>> kind 
>> of metadata for some of the libraries but I didn't include it yet.
>>
>> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 1:35:47 AM UTC+2 
>> joshua@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Super impressed with how this has come together. I'll have to review 
>>> how you are preparing the tiddler files, and add in some of the 
>>> libraries 
>>> that I have scraped meta-data for. Thanks!
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 2:26:45 PM UTC-8 
>>> moros...@gmail.com wrote:
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:-)

Yes please mail me and i send you my wiki.. thanks

Ray

Op zo 21 feb. 2021 om 13:55 schreef Mat :

> Not sure what you mean with "different type of tiddlers". A journal
> tiddler should not be a problem - maybe you can test it in the file I
> posted above? Otherwise, sure, post your wiki. (If you want it via email, I
> can't post my address publicly but I think I can figure out yours based on
> Ray Vermey https://groups.google.com/>> ...which,
> BTW, probably not is good to use as ones signature.)
>
> <:-)
>
>
>
> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 1:47:10 PM UTC+1 rayv...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> ehhh, well playing further with it i now also get as a result:
>>
>> o Filter
>>
>> (o = cherrypicker icon)
>>
>> That is when i put the CP string in a journal in MY TW...
>> In the freshdownloaded TW it works normal
>>
>> When i make a new tiddler and put in there _CP_New Item_CP_ then it
>> appears.
>>
>> So looks like when _CP_ is in different type of tiddlers it has problems
>> with that??
>>
>> If you want i could send you my wiki??
>>
>> Ray (Hope not being too much of a PITA :) )
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Op zo 21 feb. 2021 om 13:11 schreef Ray Vermey :
>>
>>> GRAND!!
>>>
>>> It works now!
>>>
>>> BIG thank you! Awesome!
>>>
>>> Ray
>>>
>>> Op zo 21 feb. 2021 om 13:02 schreef Mat :
>>>
 My goodness... those are debugging leftovers and certainly shouldn't be
 displayed. How embarrassing.
 Luckily it was just to remove it in the code. This seems to work now,
 see attachment.

 <:-)


 On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 12:38:14 PM UTC+1 rayv...@gmail.com
 wrote:

>
> Great you want to help.
> I downloaded an empty wiki and only installed cherrypicker.
> That does not give me an error message bit shows this:
>
> _CP_
> pfx:This is a _CP_
> txt: Cherrypicker test_CP_ that i want to test
> [image: image.png]
>
> <#m_-211608550780018835_m_-5954643214294113243_m_-486557196463778651_m_993805571276139487_m_7643876098819653914_New%20Tiddler>Cherrypicker
> test
> rest:that i want to test
>
> I don't have ' or " in my titles, only / what i can see as non letter
> sign... (Also in Cherrypicker/Template visible)
>
> I attach the empty wiki here so you can see it for yourself.
>
> Thanks for helping me!
>
> Ray
>
>
> Op zo 21 feb. 2021 om 12:13 schreef Mat :
>
>> Hi Ray. Happy you like the CherryPicker
>> <http://cherrypicker.tiddlyspot.com/> concept even if it, as noted
>> on the site, has a few issues.
>> Currently it resides on the "deprecated" tiddlyspot server where it
>> is not possible to make changes, but its owners have just released
>> Tiddlyhost to replace it. My intention is to transfer my creations to
>> Tiddlyhost eventually, and look over them for much needed updates. It is
>> actually a huge project because many of them, including the CherryPicker,
>> is many years old and a lot has improved in TW (and hopefully also my
>> knowledge).
>> Without looking at your code I can't tell what causes the errors but
>> I wouldn't be surprised if the code has problems with tiddler titles
>> containing quotation marks (doubles or singles) in them so you could
>> investigate this as a first step. Otherwise, if you post a wiki here,
>> perhaps with some dummy content that causes the error, I'll take a look
>> (but I won't be able to spend hours and hours on it).
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 11:10:50 AM UTC+1 rayv...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I installed the Cherrypicker plugin and it is an awesome concept for
>>> me.
>>>
>>> However i can not get it to work properly, it throws errors at me
>>> and also
>>> dispays pfx: and txt: lines.
>>>
>>> TO_CHECK
>>> *pfx*:Filter error: Syntax error in filter expression
>>> *txt:* Filter error: Syntax error in filter expression
>>>
>>> <https://tiddlydrive.github.io/?state=%7B%22ids%22:%5B%221u6fkXdQrgD8l0HZB8a0PCnm4ySVFeatB%22%5D,%22action%22:%22open%22,%22userId%22:%22112218751277661473971%22,%22resourceKeys%22:%7B%7D%7D#18%20Feb%202021>
>>> Filter
>>> *rest*:error: Syntax error in filter expression
>>>
>>> Is the developer around here or can someone help me out here?
>>>
>>> Thanks!!
>>>
>>> Ray
>>>
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Not sure what you mean with "different type of tiddlers". A journal tiddler 
should not be a problem - maybe you can test it in the file I posted above? 
Otherwise, sure, post your wiki. (If you want it via email, I can't post my 
address publicly but I think I can figure out yours based on  Ray Vermey <
rayv...@gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/>> ...which, BTW, probably not 
is good to use as ones signature.)

<:-)



On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 1:47:10 PM UTC+1 rayv...@gmail.com wrote:

> ehhh, well playing further with it i now also get as a result:
>
> o Filter
>
> (o = cherrypicker icon)
>
> That is when i put the CP string in a journal in MY TW...
> In the freshdownloaded TW it works normal
>
> When i make a new tiddler and put in there _CP_New Item_CP_ then it 
> appears.
>
> So looks like when _CP_ is in different type of tiddlers it has problems 
> with that??
>
> If you want i could send you my wiki??
>
> Ray (Hope not being too much of a PITA :) )
>
>
>
>
> Op zo 21 feb. 2021 om 13:11 schreef Ray Vermey :
>
>> GRAND!!
>>
>> It works now!
>>
>> BIG thank you! Awesome!
>>
>> Ray
>>
>> Op zo 21 feb. 2021 om 13:02 schreef Mat :
>>
>>> My goodness... those are debugging leftovers and certainly shouldn't be 
>>> displayed. How embarrassing. 
>>> Luckily it was just to remove it in the code. This seems to work now, 
>>> see attachment.
>>>
>>> <:-)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 12:38:14 PM UTC+1 rayv...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 Great you want to help.
 I downloaded an empty wiki and only installed cherrypicker.
 That does not give me an error message bit shows this:

 _CP_
 pfx:This is a _CP_
 txt: Cherrypicker test_CP_ that i want to test
 [image: image.png]

 <#m_-5954643214294113243_m_-486557196463778651_m_993805571276139487_m_7643876098819653914_New%20Tiddler>Cherrypicker
  
 test
 rest:that i want to test

 I don't have ' or " in my titles, only / what i can see as non letter 
 sign... (Also in Cherrypicker/Template visible)

 I attach the empty wiki here so you can see it for yourself.

 Thanks for helping me!

 Ray


 Op zo 21 feb. 2021 om 12:13 schreef Mat :

> Hi Ray. Happy you like the CherryPicker 
> <http://cherrypicker.tiddlyspot.com/> concept even if it, as noted on 
> the site, has a few issues.
> Currently it resides on the "deprecated" tiddlyspot server where it is 
> not possible to make changes, but its owners have just released 
> Tiddlyhost 
> to replace it. My intention is to transfer my creations to Tiddlyhost 
> eventually, and look over them for much needed updates. It is actually a 
> huge project because many of them, including the CherryPicker, is many 
> years old and a lot has improved in TW (and hopefully also my knowledge).
> Without looking at your code I can't tell what causes the errors but I 
> wouldn't be surprised if the code has problems with tiddler titles 
> containing quotation marks (doubles or singles) in them so you could 
> investigate this as a first step. Otherwise, if you post a wiki here, 
> perhaps with some dummy content that causes the error, I'll take a look 
> (but I won't be able to spend hours and hours on it).
>
> <:-)
>
>
> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 11:10:50 AM UTC+1 rayv...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I installed the Cherrypicker plugin and it is an awesome concept for 
>> me.
>>
>> However i can not get it to work properly, it throws errors at me and 
>> also
>> dispays pfx: and txt: lines.
>>
>> TO_CHECK
>> *pfx*:Filter error: Syntax error in filter expression
>> *txt:* Filter error: Syntax error in filter expression
>>
>> <https://tiddlydrive.github.io/?state=%7B%22ids%22:%5B%221u6fkXdQrgD8l0HZB8a0PCnm4ySVFeatB%22%5D,%22action%22:%22open%22,%22userId%22:%22112218751277661473971%22,%22resourceKeys%22:%7B%7D%7D#18%20Feb%202021>
>> Filter
>> *rest*:error: Syntax error in filter expression
>>
>> Is the developer around here or can someone help me out here?
>>
>> Thanks!!
>>
>> Ray
>>
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They're sorted alphabetically so one idea is to add a prefix to your custom 
fields.

If you really want, you can manipulate this shadow 
tiddler: $:/core/ui/EditTemplate/fields by inserting some sort operator in 
the listwidgets filter. Not really recommended.

You question is related to the ordering of editview templates so I mistook 
it for that first, to which I was about to reply the following:

>Yes, you use the list-before and list-after fields to state what other 
field template it should appear before or after. 
>If you want it very first or very last, you can simply use an empty 
list-before or list-after field.

...The thing is that all the things you see in editmode (as well as in 
viewmode) are fields - for example the text field or the title field. The 
order of these are controlled as I described. So you *can* create a 
separate editviewtemplate that contains your field and really control where 
it is positioned by the described method. To create an editviewtemplate you 
simply create a tiddler and tag it $:/tags/EditViewTemplate

Well, how about that for an over the top answer .

<:-)
On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 1:32:01 PM UTC+1 vinvi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Does anyone know if there is a way to display custom fields in a 
> particular order?
>
> Thank you,
>

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ehhh, well playing further with it i now also get as a result:

o Filter

(o = cherrypicker icon)

That is when i put the CP string in a journal in MY TW...
In the freshdownloaded TW it works normal

When i make a new tiddler and put in there _CP_New Item_CP_ then it appears.

So looks like when _CP_ is in different type of tiddlers it has problems
with that??

If you want i could send you my wiki??

Ray (Hope not being too much of a PITA :) )




Op zo 21 feb. 2021 om 13:11 schreef Ray Vermey :

> GRAND!!
>
> It works now!
>
> BIG thank you! Awesome!
>
> Ray
>
> Op zo 21 feb. 2021 om 13:02 schreef Mat :
>
>> My goodness... those are debugging leftovers and certainly shouldn't be
>> displayed. How embarrassing.
>> Luckily it was just to remove it in the code. This seems to work now, see
>> attachment.
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 12:38:14 PM UTC+1 rayv...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Great you want to help.
>>> I downloaded an empty wiki and only installed cherrypicker.
>>> That does not give me an error message bit shows this:
>>>
>>> _CP_
>>> pfx:This is a _CP_
>>> txt: Cherrypicker test_CP_ that i want to test
>>> [image: image.png]
>>>
>>> <#m_-486557196463778651_m_993805571276139487_m_7643876098819653914_New%20Tiddler>Cherrypicker
>>> test
>>> rest:that i want to test
>>>
>>> I don't have ' or " in my titles, only / what i can see as non letter
>>> sign... (Also in Cherrypicker/Template visible)
>>>
>>> I attach the empty wiki here so you can see it for yourself.
>>>
>>> Thanks for helping me!
>>>
>>> Ray
>>>
>>>
>>> Op zo 21 feb. 2021 om 12:13 schreef Mat :
>>>
 Hi Ray. Happy you like the CherryPicker
 <http://cherrypicker.tiddlyspot.com/> concept even if it, as noted on
 the site, has a few issues.
 Currently it resides on the "deprecated" tiddlyspot server where it is
 not possible to make changes, but its owners have just released Tiddlyhost
 to replace it. My intention is to transfer my creations to Tiddlyhost
 eventually, and look over them for much needed updates. It is actually a
 huge project because many of them, including the CherryPicker, is many
 years old and a lot has improved in TW (and hopefully also my knowledge).
 Without looking at your code I can't tell what causes the errors but I
 wouldn't be surprised if the code has problems with tiddler titles
 containing quotation marks (doubles or singles) in them so you could
 investigate this as a first step. Otherwise, if you post a wiki here,
 perhaps with some dummy content that causes the error, I'll take a look
 (but I won't be able to spend hours and hours on it).

 <:-)


 On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 11:10:50 AM UTC+1 rayv...@gmail.com
 wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I installed the Cherrypicker plugin and it is an awesome concept for
> me.
>
> However i can not get it to work properly, it throws errors at me and
> also
> dispays pfx: and txt: lines.
>
> TO_CHECK
> *pfx*:Filter error: Syntax error in filter expression
> *txt:* Filter error: Syntax error in filter expression
>
> <https://tiddlydrive.github.io/?state=%7B%22ids%22:%5B%221u6fkXdQrgD8l0HZB8a0PCnm4ySVFeatB%22%5D,%22action%22:%22open%22,%22userId%22:%22112218751277661473971%22,%22resourceKeys%22:%7B%7D%7D#18%20Feb%202021>
> Filter
> *rest*:error: Syntax error in filter expression
>
> Is the developer around here or can someone help me out here?
>
> Thanks!!
>
> Ray
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ludwa6 wrote:

> Ahh... Following your breadcrumbs, @Mat, only now i see the "References" 
> tab (a synonym for Backlinks, it appears)


Someone has not been upgrading his TW to the latest version of TW, I 
suspect... The tab is now named Backlinks :-)
 

> If i could pop that view w/ a simple key-combo, i'd call it the best of 
> all possible worlds!
>

Prolly doable with the keyboard shortcuts 
<https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#How%20to%20create%20keyboard%20shortcuts> 
but I don't know how.

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<h3><span class=subject><a href="/tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com/msg125111.html">Re: [tw5] Re: [Announcement] &quot;TW Icons&quot; - A large collection of icons for TiddlyWiki</a></span></h3>
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Icons are lovely, lots of icons even better. The best part being the 
beautiful presentation and ease of use. I am fascinated by the speed of it 
all despite it being 35.7 mb big last time I downloaded. 

Now wouldn't tags for aliases put a hefty burden on exactly the speed of 
use?

Birthe

søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 13.25.39 UTC+1 skrev moros...@gmail.com:

> So, as I said previously, I want to add metadata to icons, especially 
> "aliases", but I don't know what is the better method: 
>
>
>- to add them as tags or 
>- as a list in a field called "aliases". 
>- or maybe both?
>
>
> What do you think? 
>
> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 1:24:01 PM UTC+2 moros...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @Pit.W. Thanks a lot Pit! I feel a little embarrassed to be honest. After 
>> all, ANYONE can accomplish this with a little effort and knowledge (just a 
>> little). But thanks anyway! I'm glad that you (and others) find my work 
>> useful. I consider this my tribute to TiddlyWiki app and its creators and 
>> also to our community. 
>>
>> @Mat And it may become even crazier! ;)
>>
>> @Joshua You're welcome! I also have discovered metadata for some of the 
>> libraries, but I was thinking of an universal catalog. I want to add 
>> metadata for the entire library, at least for generic icons (e.g. house, 
>> book, people etc.) and their variants. And I want to do it in a single 
>> operation, with big JSON file that contain all the icons.
>>
>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 2:24:21 AM UTC+2 joshua@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Awesome, thank you for the example data file.
>>>
>>> I have meta-data available for a few of the libraries I was 
>>> experimenting with. For example, for GameIcons.net (which I think you have 
>>> imported), their website-catalog has tags for all the icons. I used Node 
>>> and an 'R' script to manually download and partse each web-page, extract 
>>> the meta-data (tags, etc), and then append that to the final Tiddler data. 
>>> (Repo: https://github.com/joshuafontany/TW5-SVG-Scripts).
>>>
>>> This allowed me to extract, for example, the below block of the
>>>
>>> ```
>>> caption: police-badge
>>> description: Symbol of law enforcement. The best moment to show it, it's 
>>> to shout "FBI" and break the door with a kick.
>>> name: andymeneely/police-badge
>>> tags: $:/tags/Icon police shield symbol
>>> title: $:/icons/gameicons/andymeneely/police-badge
>>> type: 
>>> ```
>>>
>>> I have that for the whole library. The FontAwesome5 svg files also have 
>>> a separate meta-data YAML file that I parsed for the meta-data.
>>>
>>> I will clone your repo and see how I can integrate the meta-data I have 
>>> available!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Joshua Fontany
>>> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 5:39:14 AM UTC-8 moros...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 @Joshua As I said before, I've processed the original SVG files with 
 some scripts made in Windows 10 Powershell. All operations are done with 
 PowerShell: creating files, replacing content, creating the TiddlyWiki 
 formal structure and adding content. The final output is a JSON file which 
 includes an array of JS objects (every object is an icon). You can see 
 below an example:

 {
 "title":"$:/images/google-material-design/action/filled/18px/star-rate",
 "tags":"$:/tags/Image Icons Images SVG",
 "caption":"star-rate",
 "collection":"filled",
 "category":"Action",
 "library":"Google Material Design",
 "library_version":"5.9.55",
 "text":">>> class=\"tc-image-gmd-star-rate tc-image-button\" viewBox=\"0 0 18 18\" 
 width=\"18\" 7H3l3.71 2.64L5.29 14z\"/>"
 }
 On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 3:25:32 PM UTC+2 moros...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> @Joshua Thanks! Can you explain in more detail what you have in mind? 
> I didn't understand very well. I need aliases for icons. I found this 
> kind 
> of metadata for some of the libraries but I didn't include it yet.
>
> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 1:35:47 AM UTC+2 
> joshua@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Super impressed with how this has come together. I'll have to review 
>> how you are preparing the tiddler files, and add in some of the 
>> libraries 
>> that I have scraped meta-data for. Thanks!
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 2:26:45 PM UTC-8 
>> moros...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> @Birthe You're welcome!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 12:22:08 AM UTC+2 
>>> strikke...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Thank you so much for this wonderful resource. Also for reminding 
 us, to save a local copy. 29.2mb to be precise.


 Birthe
 onsdag den 17. februar 2021 kl. 22.48.32 UTC+1 skrev 
 moros...@gmail.com:

> @TiddlyTweeter Thank you very much! It means a lot! :)
>
> My suggestion for you all is to make personal copies of the site 
> </pre></span>
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<$list filter="[subfilter{!!query}]" variable=dd>
<>


The last > was forgotten in previous post

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 4:06 PM Mohammad Rahmani 
wrote:

> Instead of
> *\define me()*
> *{{!!query}}*
> *\end*
>
>
> *<$wikify name="ss" text=<> >*
>
> * <$list filter=<> variable="dd" >*
> *<> *
> * *
> * *
>
> You should be able to use a much simpler solution
>
> <$list filter="[subfilter{!!query}]" variable=dd>
> <>
> 
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 3:40 PM Mohamed Amin  wrote:
>
>> OK, I figured it our, below is how I get it by using a Macro and "wikify"
>> widget:
>>
>> *1- Put the "Query" in side a field (or tiddler) without Quotations *
>> query=[all[]tag[B]]
>>
>> *2- Create a Macro to prepare the "Transclusion" string:-*
>> \define me()
>> {{!!query}}
>> \end
>>
>> *3- Excute the "Transclusion" to get the "final value" :*
>> <$wikify name="ss" text=<> >
>>
>> *4- Use the "final value" inside your filter :*
>> <$list filter=<> variable="dd" >
>>
>>
>> *\define me()*
>> *{{!!query}}*
>> *\end*
>>
>>
>> *<$wikify name="ss" text=<> >*
>>
>> * <$list filter=<> variable="dd" >*
>> *<> *
>> * *
>> * *
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 1:10:00 PM UTC+2 Mohamed Amin wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Suppose that I've a single "Filter Query" which be used inside a lot of
>>> Tiddlers.
>>> Is there a way to save that query inside a "separated tiddler" or
>>> "field", so If I need to change/correct it, I can change it from one single
>>> location?
>>>
>>> *For example: *a query like:
>>> *QUERY="[enlist{$TdlrName$!!elements}each[aliases]get[aliases]]
>>> +[enlist-input[]trim[]each:value[]]"*
>>>
>>> 1- used in one Tiddler as =
>>> *<$list filter=QUERY >*
>>> *do something*
>>> **
>>>
>>> 2- and in another Tiddler as =
>>> *<$set filter=QUERY variable="var">*
>>> *Do another thing*
>>> **
>>>
>>> Also used in many other Tiddlers.
>>>
>>> Now, can I implement some thing like the below, so I can put it inside
>>> all affected tiddlers?
>>>
>>> *<$list filter={{!!QueryInsideField}} >*
>>> *do something*
>>> **
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
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Instead of
*\define me()*
*{{!!query}}*
*\end*


*<$wikify name="ss" text=<> >*

* <$list filter=<> variable="dd" >*
*<> *
* *
* *

You should be able to use a much simpler solution

<$list filter="[subfilter{!!query}]" variable=dd>
<>
 wrote:

> OK, I figured it our, below is how I get it by using a Macro and "wikify"
> widget:
>
> *1- Put the "Query" in side a field (or tiddler) without Quotations *
> query=[all[]tag[B]]
>
> *2- Create a Macro to prepare the "Transclusion" string:-*
> \define me()
> {{!!query}}
> \end
>
> *3- Excute the "Transclusion" to get the "final value" :*
> <$wikify name="ss" text=<> >
>
> *4- Use the "final value" inside your filter :*
> <$list filter=<> variable="dd" >
>
>
> *\define me()*
> *{{!!query}}*
> *\end*
>
>
> *<$wikify name="ss" text=<> >*
>
> * <$list filter=<> variable="dd" >*
> *<> *
> * *
> * *
>
>
> Regards
> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 1:10:00 PM UTC+2 Mohamed Amin wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Suppose that I've a single "Filter Query" which be used inside a lot of
>> Tiddlers.
>> Is there a way to save that query inside a "separated tiddler" or
>> "field", so If I need to change/correct it, I can change it from one single
>> location?
>>
>> *For example: *a query like:
>> *QUERY="[enlist{$TdlrName$!!elements}each[aliases]get[aliases]]
>> +[enlist-input[]trim[]each:value[]]"*
>>
>> 1- used in one Tiddler as =
>> *<$list filter=QUERY >*
>> *do something*
>> **
>>
>> 2- and in another Tiddler as =
>> *<$set filter=QUERY variable="var">*
>> *Do another thing*
>> **
>>
>> Also used in many other Tiddlers.
>>
>> Now, can I implement some thing like the below, so I can put it inside
>> all affected tiddlers?
>>
>> *<$list filter={{!!QueryInsideField}} >*
>> *do something*
>> **
>>
>> Regards
>>
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Hello,

Does anyone know if there is a way to display custom fields in a particular 
order?

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So, as I said previously, I want to add metadata to icons, especially 
"aliases", but I don't know what is the better method: 


   - to add them as tags or 
   - as a list in a field called "aliases". 
   - or maybe both?
   

What do you think? 

On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 1:24:01 PM UTC+2 moros...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Pit.W. Thanks a lot Pit! I feel a little embarrassed to be honest. After 
> all, ANYONE can accomplish this with a little effort and knowledge (just a 
> little). But thanks anyway! I'm glad that you (and others) find my work 
> useful. I consider this my tribute to TiddlyWiki app and its creators and 
> also to our community. 
>
> @Mat And it may become even crazier! ;)
>
> @Joshua You're welcome! I also have discovered metadata for some of the 
> libraries, but I was thinking of an universal catalog. I want to add 
> metadata for the entire library, at least for generic icons (e.g. house, 
> book, people etc.) and their variants. And I want to do it in a single 
> operation, with big JSON file that contain all the icons.
>
> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 2:24:21 AM UTC+2 joshua@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Awesome, thank you for the example data file.
>>
>> I have meta-data available for a few of the libraries I was experimenting 
>> with. For example, for GameIcons.net (which I think you have imported), 
>> their website-catalog has tags for all the icons. I used Node and an 'R' 
>> script to manually download and partse each web-page, extract the meta-data 
>> (tags, etc), and then append that to the final Tiddler data. (Repo: 
>> https://github.com/joshuafontany/TW5-SVG-Scripts).
>>
>> This allowed me to extract, for example, the below block of the
>>
>> ```
>> caption: police-badge
>> description: Symbol of law enforcement. The best moment to show it, it's 
>> to shout "FBI" and break the door with a kick.
>> name: andymeneely/police-badge
>> tags: $:/tags/Icon police shield symbol
>> title: $:/icons/gameicons/andymeneely/police-badge
>> type: 
>> ```
>>
>> I have that for the whole library. The FontAwesome5 svg files also have a 
>> separate meta-data YAML file that I parsed for the meta-data.
>>
>> I will clone your repo and see how I can integrate the meta-data I have 
>> available!
>>
>> Best,
>> Joshua Fontany
>> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 5:39:14 AM UTC-8 moros...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> @Joshua As I said before, I've processed the original SVG files with 
>>> some scripts made in Windows 10 Powershell. All operations are done with 
>>> PowerShell: creating files, replacing content, creating the TiddlyWiki 
>>> formal structure and adding content. The final output is a JSON file which 
>>> includes an array of JS objects (every object is an icon). You can see 
>>> below an example:
>>>
>>> {
>>> "title":"$:/images/google-material-design/action/filled/18px/star-rate",
>>> "tags":"$:/tags/Image Icons Images SVG",
>>> "caption":"star-rate",
>>> "collection":"filled",
>>> "category":"Action",
>>> "library":"Google Material Design",
>>> "library_version":"5.9.55",
>>> "text":">> class=\"tc-image-gmd-star-rate tc-image-button\" viewBox=\"0 0 18 18\" 
>>> width=\"18\">>> 7H3l3.71 2.64L5.29 14z\"/>"
>>> }
>>> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 3:25:32 PM UTC+2 moros...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 @Joshua Thanks! Can you explain in more detail what you have in mind? I 
 didn't understand very well. I need aliases for icons. I found this kind 
 of 
 metadata for some of the libraries but I didn't include it yet.

 On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 1:35:47 AM UTC+2 joshua@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Super impressed with how this has come together. I'll have to review 
> how you are preparing the tiddler files, and add in some of the libraries 
> that I have scraped meta-data for. Thanks!
>
> On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 2:26:45 PM UTC-8 moros...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> @Birthe You're welcome!
>>
>> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 12:22:08 AM UTC+2 
>> strikke...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you so much for this wonderful resource. Also for reminding 
>>> us, to save a local copy. 29.2mb to be precise.
>>>
>>>
>>> Birthe
>>> onsdag den 17. februar 2021 kl. 22.48.32 UTC+1 skrev 
>>> moros...@gmail.com:
>>>
 @TiddlyTweeter Thank you very much! It means a lot! :)

 My suggestion for you all is to make personal copies of the site 
 versions as backup in case I will not be able to ensure the 
 availability of 
 the site (and the content) in the future, so one can restore it to 
 another 
 public location. Now it is a free and open community resource, so 
 anyone 
 can do that. Also you can use it as an offline version in case of 
 internet 
 connection failure. It's only about 30 MB. 

 On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 9:12:31 PM UTC+2 </pre></span>
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GRAND!!

It works now!

BIG thank you! Awesome!

Ray

Op zo 21 feb. 2021 om 13:02 schreef Mat :

> My goodness... those are debugging leftovers and certainly shouldn't be
> displayed. How embarrassing.
> Luckily it was just to remove it in the code. This seems to work now, see
> attachment.
>
> <:-)
>
>
> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 12:38:14 PM UTC+1 rayv...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Great you want to help.
>> I downloaded an empty wiki and only installed cherrypicker.
>> That does not give me an error message bit shows this:
>>
>> _CP_
>> pfx:This is a _CP_
>> txt: Cherrypicker test_CP_ that i want to test
>> [image: image.png]
>> <#m_993805571276139487_m_7643876098819653914_New%20Tiddler>Cherrypicker
>> test
>> rest:that i want to test
>>
>> I don't have ' or " in my titles, only / what i can see as non letter
>> sign... (Also in Cherrypicker/Template visible)
>>
>> I attach the empty wiki here so you can see it for yourself.
>>
>> Thanks for helping me!
>>
>> Ray
>>
>>
>> Op zo 21 feb. 2021 om 12:13 schreef Mat :
>>
>>> Hi Ray. Happy you like the CherryPicker
>>> <http://cherrypicker.tiddlyspot.com/> concept even if it, as noted on
>>> the site, has a few issues.
>>> Currently it resides on the "deprecated" tiddlyspot server where it is
>>> not possible to make changes, but its owners have just released Tiddlyhost
>>> to replace it. My intention is to transfer my creations to Tiddlyhost
>>> eventually, and look over them for much needed updates. It is actually a
>>> huge project because many of them, including the CherryPicker, is many
>>> years old and a lot has improved in TW (and hopefully also my knowledge).
>>> Without looking at your code I can't tell what causes the errors but I
>>> wouldn't be surprised if the code has problems with tiddler titles
>>> containing quotation marks (doubles or singles) in them so you could
>>> investigate this as a first step. Otherwise, if you post a wiki here,
>>> perhaps with some dummy content that causes the error, I'll take a look
>>> (but I won't be able to spend hours and hours on it).
>>>
>>> <:-)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 11:10:50 AM UTC+1 rayv...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi all

 I installed the Cherrypicker plugin and it is an awesome concept for me.

 However i can not get it to work properly, it throws errors at me and
 also
 dispays pfx: and txt: lines.

 TO_CHECK
 *pfx*:Filter error: Syntax error in filter expression
 *txt:* Filter error: Syntax error in filter expression

 <https://tiddlydrive.github.io/?state=%7B%22ids%22:%5B%221u6fkXdQrgD8l0HZB8a0PCnm4ySVFeatB%22%5D,%22action%22:%22open%22,%22userId%22:%22112218751277661473971%22,%22resourceKeys%22:%7B%7D%7D#18%20Feb%202021>
 Filter
 *rest*:error: Syntax error in filter expression

 Is the developer around here or can someone help me out here?

 Thanks!!

 Ray

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OK, I figured it our, below is how I get it by using a Macro and "wikify" 
widget:

*1- Put the "Query" in side a field (or tiddler) without Quotations *
query=[all[]tag[B]]

*2- Create a Macro to prepare the "Transclusion" string:-*
\define me()
{{!!query}}
\end

*3- Excute the "Transclusion" to get the "final value" :*
<$wikify name="ss" text=<> >

*4- Use the "final value" inside your filter :*
<$list filter=<> variable="dd" >


*\define me()*
*{{!!query}}*
*\end*


*<$wikify name="ss" text=<> >*

* <$list filter=<> variable="dd" >*
*<> *
* *
* *


Regards
On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 1:10:00 PM UTC+2 Mohamed Amin wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Suppose that I've a single "Filter Query" which be used inside a lot of 
> Tiddlers.
> Is there a way to save that query inside a "separated tiddler" or "field", 
> so If I need to change/correct it, I can change it from one single location?
>
> *For example: *a query like:
> *QUERY="[enlist{$TdlrName$!!elements}each[aliases]get[aliases]] 
> +[enlist-input[]trim[]each:value[]]"*
>
> 1- used in one Tiddler as =
> *<$list filter=QUERY >*
> *do something*
> **
>
> 2- and in another Tiddler as =
> *<$set filter=QUERY variable="var">*
> *Do another thing*
> **
>
> Also used in many other Tiddlers.
>
> Now, can I implement some thing like the below, so I can put it inside all 
> affected tiddlers?
>
> *<$list filter={{!!QueryInsideField}} >*
> *do something*
> **
>
> Regards
>

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<h3><span class=subject><a href="/tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com/msg125104.html">[tw5] Re: Backlinks</a></span></h3>
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Ahh... Following your breadcrumbs, @Mat, only now i see the "References" 
tab (a synonym for Backlinks, it appears) -coupla clicks away from view, 
but it'll do for when one really needs to discover context.  If i could pop 
that view w/ a simple key-combo, i'd call it the best of all possible 
worlds!

On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 11:36:22 AM UTC Mat wrote:

> Also worth noting that all tiddlers already show backlinks in their 
> toolbar menu > more (i.e the down arrow) > info > Backlinks tab
>
> <:-)
> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 11:33:53 AM UTC+1 ludwa6 wrote:
>
>> Thanks, @Mark : This works great in context of a single page... Also 
>> site-wide, in context of a small site where i've added to ViewTemplate per 
>> your suggestion.  I would like to extend the latter case to a larger site 
>> with many links, but i should do some testing first, as i don't know what 
>> impact it will have on performance.  I do however know that i've got a 
>> Stroll-themed wiki on my desktop that has some hundreds of content tiddler 
>> already with backlinks integrated, and performance hit is not (yet) an 
>> issue.
>>
>> As to your Q about intent:  It is to weave wiki with the quality of 
>> Intertwingularity <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intertwingularity>, 
>> essentially.  That was the quality that i found so compelling about Ward's 
>> Portland 
>> Pattern Repository <http://c2.com/ppr/> back in the day (well before 
>> Wikipedia appeared on the scene), where backlinks was for me an essential 
>> part of the experience -the only way i know how to preserve the context 
>> that is needed to make sense of linked content.
>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 5:12:11 AM UTC Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>> It depends what you want to do. Any tiddler with this macro in it:
>>>
>>> <>
>>>
>>> will return a list of all the tiddlers that link to it. You can put that 
>>> into a tiddler, tag it $:/tags/ViewTemplate and then every tiddler will 
>>> list it's backlinks. But that's going to use a lot of computing power. So 
>>> it all depends what you are intending to do.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 20, 2021 at 8:09:13 PM UTC-8 ludwa6 wrote:
>>>
 Q: Is there a canonical method to implement this feature?  The way 
 Stroll implements backlinks works for me, but i would like to isolate that 
 feature for implementation in a standard wiki.  What would be the simplest 
 way, i wonder?

 /walt

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<h3><span class=subject><a href="/tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com/msg125103.html">[tw5] Re: Tiddly Plugin missing close button</a></span></h3>
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Your screen shot has several differences from standard plugin library modal 
window. Presumably you're using a non-standard palette but the top area 
with the line "Get more plugins" and the bottom area with the Close button 
are both gone. 
Is your TW updated to the latest version?

<:-)

On Friday, February 19, 2021 at 5:57:12 PM UTC+1 dgle...@gmail.com wrote:

> I get this as a result selecting 'Plugins' tab on the control panel, the 
> select 'Get more plugins'
>
> Up pops this window.
>
> [image: pluginErr.jpg]
>
> It may simply be interference from another plugin. It used to work fine 
> with both repositories. I have not installed any plugin this year I am 
> aware of. I'd finished adding any in December 2020. This time I wanted some 
> more theme choices. But after selecting them and closing the library the 
> popup tab remained without the close button on it.
>
> Any ideas?
>

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<h3><span class=subject><a href="/tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com/msg125102.html">[tw5] Re: Writing Recommendations</a></span></h3>
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Depends on what you mean with "writing machine" but I personally use the 
SideEditor 
<http://sideeditor.tiddlyspot.com/>all the time (I am the creator of it).

<:-)

On Friday, February 19, 2021 at 6:12:34 PM UTC+1 ooc...@gmail.com wrote:

> I am looking for any plugins, themes or ideas to make my tiddlywiki feel 
> more like a writing machine. I am not a TW novice, I am a TW amoeba!  So 
> advice towards this goal is much appreciated. 
>
> Adore tiddlywiki, it is like a deep ocean where I am barely treading 
> water. 
>
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<h3><span class=subject><a href="/tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com/msg125101.html">[tw5] Re: Backlinks</a></span></h3>
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Also worth noting that all tiddlers already show backlinks in their toolbar 
menu > more (i.e the down arrow) > info > Backlinks tab

<:-)
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> Thanks, @Mark : This works great in context of a single page... Also 
> site-wide, in context of a small site where i've added to ViewTemplate per 
> your suggestion.  I would like to extend the latter case to a larger site 
> with many links, but i should do some testing first, as i don't know what 
> impact it will have on performance.  I do however know that i've got a 
> Stroll-themed wiki on my desktop that has some hundreds of content tiddler 
> already with backlinks integrated, and performance hit is not (yet) an 
> issue.
>
> As to your Q about intent:  It is to weave wiki with the quality of 
> Intertwingularity <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intertwingularity>, 
> essentially.  That was the quality that i found so compelling about Ward's 
> Portland 
> Pattern Repository <http://c2.com/ppr/> back in the day (well before 
> Wikipedia appeared on the scene), where backlinks was for me an essential 
> part of the experience -the only way i know how to preserve the context 
> that is needed to make sense of linked content.
> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 5:12:11 AM UTC Mark S. wrote:
>
>> It depends what you want to do. Any tiddler with this macro in it:
>>
>> <>
>>
>> will return a list of all the tiddlers that link to it. You can put that 
>> into a tiddler, tag it $:/tags/ViewTemplate and then every tiddler will 
>> list it's backlinks. But that's going to use a lot of computing power. So 
>> it all depends what you are intending to do.
>>
>> On Saturday, February 20, 2021 at 8:09:13 PM UTC-8 ludwa6 wrote:
>>
>>> Q: Is there a canonical method to implement this feature?  The way 
>>> Stroll implements backlinks works for me, but i would like to isolate that 
>>> feature for implementation in a standard wiki.  What would be the simplest 
>>> way, i wonder?
>>>
>>> /walt
>>>
>>

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Hi Karen.

There isn't exactly a sitemap plugin (that I'm aware of) but there is first 
of all the built-in Explorer tab found in: Sidebar > More > Explorer
There is also the various table-of-content macros 
<https://tiddlywiki.com/#Table-of-Contents%20Macros>.

<:-)

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> Hi all,
>
> It’s been interesting reading the emails each day since I joined. I’ve 
> learned a lot that I didn’t know, such as TW can possibly be used as a 
> website. I’m interested in doing this and will research it in coming weeks.
>
> But, my existing TW is quite large and I was wondering if there is a 
> sitemap plugin for Tiddlywiki? I have looked through the plugins listed on 
> the Community page and another website I saw in an email, but couldn’t find 
> anything. Any suggestions?
>
> Kind regards,
> Karen
>
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Hi "bee...@gmail.com" (sorry, can't see a better name in your post).

Where exactly did you actually download 'this' from? Your use of the term 
"app" and other indications makes me thing you're maybe not talking about 
what the rest of us are talking about.

<:-)
On Saturday, February 20, 2021 at 4:39:42 PM UTC+1 bee...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello, I have downloaded this yesterday and I am struggling a bit with a 
> few things 
> 1) where is it stored on our pc, and how can I find the local host link?
> 2) I wanted to set up the connection with Google Drive but couldn’t get 
> through trying the steps, anyone can help me please?
> 3) is there anyway to save/store in a Dropbox folder, so I could access 
> from another pc? 
> 4) can i create tables and hierarchy on content? can i add tags to create 
> connections or only hyperlinked ones?
>
> thank you very much 
>

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<h3><span class=subject><a href="/tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com/msg125098.html">Re: [tw5] Re: [Announcement] &quot;TW Icons&quot; - A large collection of icons for TiddlyWiki</a></span></h3>
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 @Pit.W. Thanks a lot Pit! I feel a little embarrassed to be honest. After 
all, ANYONE can accomplish this with a little effort and knowledge (just a 
little). But thanks anyway! I'm glad that you (and others) find my work 
useful. I consider this my tribute to TiddlyWiki app and its creators and 
also to our community. 

@Mat And it may become even crazier! ;)

@Joshua You're welcome! I also have discovered metadata for some of the 
libraries, but I was thinking of an universal catalog. I want to add 
metadata for the entire library, at least for generic icons (e.g. house, 
book, people etc.) and their variants. And I want to do it in a single 
operation, with big JSON file that contain all the icons.

On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 2:24:21 AM UTC+2 joshua@gmail.com wrote:

> Awesome, thank you for the example data file.
>
> I have meta-data available for a few of the libraries I was experimenting 
> with. For example, for GameIcons.net (which I think you have imported), 
> their website-catalog has tags for all the icons. I used Node and an 'R' 
> script to manually download and partse each web-page, extract the meta-data 
> (tags, etc), and then append that to the final Tiddler data. (Repo: 
> https://github.com/joshuafontany/TW5-SVG-Scripts).
>
> This allowed me to extract, for example, the below block of the
>
> ```
> caption: police-badge
> description: Symbol of law enforcement. The best moment to show it, it's 
> to shout "FBI" and break the door with a kick.
> name: andymeneely/police-badge
> tags: $:/tags/Icon police shield symbol
> title: $:/icons/gameicons/andymeneely/police-badge
> type: 
> ```
>
> I have that for the whole library. The FontAwesome5 svg files also have a 
> separate meta-data YAML file that I parsed for the meta-data.
>
> I will clone your repo and see how I can integrate the meta-data I have 
> available!
>
> Best,
> Joshua Fontany
> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 5:39:14 AM UTC-8 moros...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> @Joshua As I said before, I've processed the original SVG files with some 
>> scripts made in Windows 10 Powershell. All operations are done with 
>> PowerShell: creating files, replacing content, creating the TiddlyWiki 
>> formal structure and adding content. The final output is a JSON file which 
>> includes an array of JS objects (every object is an icon). You can see 
>> below an example:
>>
>> {
>> "title":"$:/images/google-material-design/action/filled/18px/star-rate",
>> "tags":"$:/tags/Image Icons Images SVG",
>> "caption":"star-rate",
>> "collection":"filled",
>> "category":"Action",
>> "library":"Google Material Design",
>> "library_version":"5.9.55",
>> "text":"> class=\"tc-image-gmd-star-rate tc-image-button\" viewBox=\"0 0 18 18\" 
>> width=\"18\">> 7H3l3.71 2.64L5.29 14z\"/>"
>> }
>> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 3:25:32 PM UTC+2 moros...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> @Joshua Thanks! Can you explain in more detail what you have in mind? I 
>>> didn't understand very well. I need aliases for icons. I found this kind of 
>>> metadata for some of the libraries but I didn't include it yet.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 1:35:47 AM UTC+2 joshua@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Super impressed with how this has come together. I'll have to review 
 how you are preparing the tiddler files, and add in some of the libraries 
 that I have scraped meta-data for. Thanks!

 On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 2:26:45 PM UTC-8 moros...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> @Birthe You're welcome!
>
> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 12:22:08 AM UTC+2 
> strikke...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thank you so much for this wonderful resource. Also for reminding us, 
>> to save a local copy. 29.2mb to be precise.
>>
>>
>> Birthe
>> onsdag den 17. februar 2021 kl. 22.48.32 UTC+1 skrev 
>> moros...@gmail.com:
>>
>>> @TiddlyTweeter Thank you very much! It means a lot! :)
>>>
>>> My suggestion for you all is to make personal copies of the site 
>>> versions as backup in case I will not be able to ensure the 
>>> availability of 
>>> the site (and the content) in the future, so one can restore it to 
>>> another 
>>> public location. Now it is a free and open community resource, so 
>>> anyone 
>>> can do that. Also you can use it as an offline version in case of 
>>> internet 
>>> connection failure. It's only about 30 MB. 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 9:12:31 PM UTC+2 TiddlyTweeter 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 moros...@gmail.com wrote:

> A new version of *"TW Icons"* is available !!!
>
> *v1.1 *(https://morosanuae.github.io/tw-icons) now with a total 
> of *~25000 icons*. 
>
> *Features*: 
>
>-  The *"Google Material Design"* library was added. More 
>libraries are on the way, so stay tuned! :
>
> WHOAH !!! That is now a </pre></span>
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By the way, fellow *tiddleur *Joshua Fontany has an ambitious PR that would 
enable similar things as the CherryPicker if it got into the TW core. 
Unfortunately I don't find the PR right now.

<:-)

On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 12:13:48 PM UTC+1 Mat wrote:

> Hi Ray. Happy you like the CherryPicker 
> <http://cherrypicker.tiddlyspot.com/> concept even if it, as noted on the 
> site, has a few issues.
> Currently it resides on the "deprecated" tiddlyspot server where it is not 
> possible to make changes, but its owners have just released Tiddlyhost to 
> replace it. My intention is to transfer my creations to Tiddlyhost 
> eventually, and look over them for much needed updates. It is actually a 
> huge project because many of them, including the CherryPicker, is many 
> years old and a lot has improved in TW (and hopefully also my knowledge).
> Without looking at your code I can't tell what causes the errors but I 
> wouldn't be surprised if the code has problems with tiddler titles 
> containing quotation marks (doubles or singles) in them so you could 
> investigate this as a first step. Otherwise, if you post a wiki here, 
> perhaps with some dummy content that causes the error, I'll take a look 
> (but I won't be able to spend hours and hours on it).
>
> <:-)
>
>
> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 11:10:50 AM UTC+1 rayv...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I installed the Cherrypicker plugin and it is an awesome concept for me.
>>
>> However i can not get it to work properly, it throws errors at me and also
>> dispays pfx: and txt: lines.
>>
>> TO_CHECK
>> *pfx*:Filter error: Syntax error in filter expression
>> *txt:* Filter error: Syntax error in filter expression
>>
>> <https://tiddlydrive.github.io/?state=%7B%22ids%22:%5B%221u6fkXdQrgD8l0HZB8a0PCnm4ySVFeatB%22%5D,%22action%22:%22open%22,%22userId%22:%22112218751277661473971%22,%22resourceKeys%22:%7B%7D%7D#18%20Feb%202021>
>> Filter
>> *rest*:error: Syntax error in filter expression
>>
>> Is the developer around here or can someone help me out here?
>>
>> Thanks!!
>>
>> Ray
>>
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Hi Ray. Happy you like the CherryPicker 
<http://cherrypicker.tiddlyspot.com/> concept even if it, as noted on the 
site, has a few issues.
Currently it resides on the "deprecated" tiddlyspot server where it is not 
possible to make changes, but its owners have just released Tiddlyhost to 
replace it. My intention is to transfer my creations to Tiddlyhost 
eventually, and look over them for much needed updates. It is actually a 
huge project because many of them, including the CherryPicker, is many 
years old and a lot has improved in TW (and hopefully also my knowledge).
Without looking at your code I can't tell what causes the errors but I 
wouldn't be surprised if the code has problems with tiddler titles 
containing quotation marks (doubles or singles) in them so you could 
investigate this as a first step. Otherwise, if you post a wiki here, 
perhaps with some dummy content that causes the error, I'll take a look 
(but I won't be able to spend hours and hours on it).

<:-)


On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 11:10:50 AM UTC+1 rayv...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I installed the Cherrypicker plugin and it is an awesome concept for me.
>
> However i can not get it to work properly, it throws errors at me and also
> dispays pfx: and txt: lines.
>
> TO_CHECK
> *pfx*:Filter error: Syntax error in filter expression
> *txt:* Filter error: Syntax error in filter expression
>
> <https://tiddlydrive.github.io/?state=%7B%22ids%22:%5B%221u6fkXdQrgD8l0HZB8a0PCnm4ySVFeatB%22%5D,%22action%22:%22open%22,%22userId%22:%22112218751277661473971%22,%22resourceKeys%22:%7B%7D%7D#18%20Feb%202021>
> Filter
> *rest*:error: Syntax error in filter expression
>
> Is the developer around here or can someone help me out here?
>
> Thanks!!
>
> Ray
>

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Hi all,

Suppose that I've a single "Filter Query" which be used inside a lot of 
Tiddlers.
Is there a way to save that query inside a "separated tiddler" or "field", 
so If I need to change/correct it, I can change it from one single location?

*For example: *a query like:
*QUERY="[enlist{$TdlrName$!!elements}each[aliases]get[aliases]] 
+[enlist-input[]trim[]each:value[]]"*

1- used in one Tiddler as =
*<$list filter=QUERY >*
*do something*
**

2- and in another Tiddler as =
*<$set filter=QUERY variable="var">*
*Do another thing*
**

Also used in many other Tiddlers.

Now, can I implement some thing like the below, so I can put it inside all 
affected tiddlers?

*<$list filter={{!!QueryInsideField}} >*
*do something*
**

Regards

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Thanks, @Mark : This works great in context of a single page... Also 
site-wide, in context of a small site where i've added to ViewTemplate per 
your suggestion.  I would like to extend the latter case to a larger site 
with many links, but i should do some testing first, as i don't know what 
impact it will have on performance.  I do however know that i've got a 
Stroll-themed wiki on my desktop that has some hundreds of content tiddler 
already with backlinks integrated, and performance hit is not (yet) an 
issue.

As to your Q about intent:  It is to weave wiki with the quality of 
Intertwingularity <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intertwingularity>, 
essentially.  That was the quality that i found so compelling about Ward's 
Portland 
Pattern Repository <http://c2.com/ppr/> back in the day (well before 
Wikipedia appeared on the scene), where backlinks was for me an essential 
part of the experience -the only way i know how to preserve the context 
that is needed to make sense of linked content.
On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 5:12:11 AM UTC Mark S. wrote:

> It depends what you want to do. Any tiddler with this macro in it:
>
> <>
>
> will return a list of all the tiddlers that link to it. You can put that 
> into a tiddler, tag it $:/tags/ViewTemplate and then every tiddler will 
> list it's backlinks. But that's going to use a lot of computing power. So 
> it all depends what you are intending to do.
>
> On Saturday, February 20, 2021 at 8:09:13 PM UTC-8 ludwa6 wrote:
>
>> Q: Is there a canonical method to implement this feature?  The way Stroll 
>> implements backlinks works for me, but i would like to isolate that feature 
>> for implementation in a standard wiki.  What would be the simplest way, i 
>> wonder?
>>
>> /walt
>>
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Hi all

I installed the Cherrypicker plugin and it is an awesome concept for me.

However i can not get it to work properly, it throws errors at me and also
dispays pfx: and txt: lines.

TO_CHECK
*pfx*:Filter error: Syntax error in filter expression
*txt:* Filter error: Syntax error in filter expression
<https://tiddlydrive.github.io/?state=%7B%22ids%22:%5B%221u6fkXdQrgD8l0HZB8a0PCnm4ySVFeatB%22%5D,%22action%22:%22open%22,%22userId%22:%22112218751277661473971%22,%22resourceKeys%22:%7B%7D%7D#18%20Feb%202021>
Filter
*rest*:error: Syntax error in filter expression

Is the developer around here or can someone help me out here?

Thanks!!

Ray

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Need some filter help. Pseudocode:

<$vars value={{foo!!value}}>
filter=Among all tiddlers with an id field, if there is no tiddler with 
id: then do X but if there is a tiddler with id: then do 
nothing


I assume it is some kind of then ... else construct but I can't quite 
materialize it and I'm getting confused by how I loose the tiddler titles 
if I look at their field values. Maybe I need something with the subfilter 
operator but I'm not sure how... ?

Thank you.

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Hi all,

It’s been interesting reading the emails each day since I joined. I’ve learned 
a lot that I didn’t know, such as TW can possibly be used as a website. I’m 
interested in doing this and will research it in coming weeks.

But, my existing TW is quite large and I was wondering if there is a sitemap 
plugin for Tiddlywiki? I have looked through the plugins listed on the 
Community page and another website I saw in an email, but couldn’t find 
anything. Any suggestions?

Kind regards,
Karen

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