[tw] Re: Internet Explorer-specific stylesheet
Thanks chaps. I think using the IE hacks in the CSS is going to be good for me. I have this problem where I need an IE-specific style but it needs to kick in after a plugin has written a StyleSheet to the head. I realised another solution is to add something like ie6 as a class on the HTML element via a plugin that checks which browser you're on, then I can target this in normal stylesheets. J. On Apr 6, 12:47 pm, rakugo jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: If you have the option of having a separate css file to the document, you can obviously use conditional if statements for IE using the MarkupPreHead tiddler. !--[if IE 6] link rel=stylesheet href=ie6.css type=text/css/link ![endif]-- Jon On Apr 6, 8:20 am, colmjude colmj...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know how to add IE-specific stylesheets into TiddlyWikis? I know one method, which involves a plugin: check config.browser.isIE and then add a link tag to the HEAD. This isn't what I need this time. Any other methods? Would putting the link tag in one of the PRE/POST HEAD/BODY shadow tiddlers work? The easiest thing might be to have a IE specific stylesheet tiddler that is transcluded in the StyleSheet tiddler or theme. The CSS in the IE only tiddler could then use the IE hacks to target the specific browsers. For example: width: 420px\9; /* to target IE8 and below */ *width: 380px; /* to target IE7 and below */ _width: 350px; /* target IE6 */ Hope that helps, Colm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Internet Explorer-specific stylesheet
Hello, Does anyone know how to add IE-specific stylesheets into TiddlyWikis? I know one method, which involves a plugin: check config.browser.isIE and then add a link tag to the HEAD. This isn't what I need this time. Any other methods? J. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Announcing: TiddlyAir - an experiment bringing TiddlyWiki to Adobe AIR
Dave, Saving changes is the thing that new users of TW seem to have the most problems with. In my experience at least. J. On Aug 24, 4:42 am, Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/; giff...@gmail.com wrote: All that so that saving changes isn't a pain? Since when is saving changes a pain? Dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Announcing: TiddlyAir - an experiment bringing TiddlyWiki to Adobe AIR
Hi, On Aug 24, 10:05 pm, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote: Hi J I've made a TiddlyWiki that is wrapped up in an Adobe AIR container as a standalone app. The original TiddlyWiki still opens in a browser and functions normally (although its store is kept separate in the AIR app's storage directory). Nice job!! Thanks. :) Point of this: to try out a TiddlyWiki in a controlled environment where save changes isn't a big pain. I miss a refresh page (F5) function (Also this person[1] might be interested.) Good point... Me too :-) It would be great if it had a discreet dropdown to select different TWs from a directory. Yes, that's a good idea... as it's set up at the moment, it can read any TW. Restrictions: cookies don't work yet; import doesn't work yet. I haven't looked into these problems though. Cookies might be handled by Eric's CookieSaver plugin? Good idea. It might be easy to get cookies working in AIR, I just haven't looked. Would it be possible to open a TiddlySpace space (online) in the Air- client? Yup. If TiddlyAir could open an online document - it could work as an alternative browser which Dave G. asked for some time ago. I like the idea of a simple browser/application just for using TWs online or offline. Is AdobeAir a viable solution, if you want to create an application which will run on most machines/systems? I'm thinking that I should really re-do this thing using HTML5 local storage. Then at least there wouldn't be a dependency on AIR, which is something I'd like to avoid really. Now I've figured out how to change the way TW works with the filesystem, it seems straightforward to use local storage instead (with the caveat that I'd need to decide on which type of local storage to use...). J. Thanks for sharing regards Måns Mårtensson Source:http://github.com/jayfresh/TiddlyAIR To use: - download source - install AIR - run client.build - install TiddlyAIR.air Any comments appreciated (even if they originate from PSD[1])! J. [1]http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/1e2878... [2]http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/d9c749... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Announcing: TiddlyAir - an experiment bringing TiddlyWiki to Adobe AIR
Hello, I've made a TiddlyWiki that is wrapped up in an Adobe AIR container as a standalone app. The original TiddlyWiki still opens in a browser and functions normally (although its store is kept separate in the AIR app's storage directory). Point of this: to try out a TiddlyWiki in a controlled environment where save changes isn't a big pain. (Also this person[1] might be interested.) Restrictions: cookies don't work yet; import doesn't work yet. I haven't looked into these problems though. Source: http://github.com/jayfresh/TiddlyAIR To use: - download source - install AIR - run client.build - install TiddlyAIR.air Any comments appreciated (even if they originate from PSD[1])! J. [1] http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/1e28786a17a23c3/296a3e69751141f8 [2] http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/d9c749ae87b6564b/a8deef4b7f023595 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Announcing: TiddlyAir - an experiment bringing TiddlyWiki to Adobe AIR
Have realised that you also need the Adobe AIR developer tools[1] to compile the package. Have added the built app installer to the repo, so you can just get that if you want: http://github.com/jayfresh/TiddlyAIR/raw/master/AIR/TiddlyAIR.air J. On Aug 23, 2:33 pm, jnthnlstr jnthnl...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I've made a TiddlyWiki that is wrapped up in an Adobe AIR container as a standalone app. The original TiddlyWiki still opens in a browser and functions normally (although its store is kept separate in the AIR app's storage directory). Point of this: to try out a TiddlyWiki in a controlled environment where save changes isn't a big pain. (Also this person[1] might be interested.) Restrictions: cookies don't work yet; import doesn't work yet. I haven't looked into these problems though. Source:http://github.com/jayfresh/TiddlyAIR To use: - download source - install AIR - run client.build - install TiddlyAIR.air Any comments appreciated (even if they originate from PSD[1])! J. [1]http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/1e2878... [2]http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/d9c749... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Announcing: TiddlyAir - an experiment bringing TiddlyWiki to Adobe AIR
...and that dev tools link: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=airsdk On Aug 23, 7:15 pm, jnthnlstr jnthnl...@gmail.com wrote: Have realised that you also need the Adobe AIR developer tools[1] to compile the package. Have added the built app installer to the repo, so you can just get that if you want:http://github.com/jayfresh/TiddlyAIR/raw/master/AIR/TiddlyAIR.air J. On Aug 23, 2:33 pm, jnthnlstr jnthnl...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I've made a TiddlyWiki that is wrapped up in an Adobe AIR container as a standalone app. The original TiddlyWiki still opens in a browser and functions normally (although its store is kept separate in the AIR app's storage directory). Point of this: to try out a TiddlyWiki in a controlled environment where save changes isn't a big pain. (Also this person[1] might be interested.) Restrictions: cookies don't work yet; import doesn't work yet. I haven't looked into these problems though. Source:http://github.com/jayfresh/TiddlyAIR To use: - download source - install AIR - run client.build - install TiddlyAIR.air Any comments appreciated (even if they originate from PSD[1])! J. [1]http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/1e2878... [2]http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/d9c749... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Announcing: readCount plugin, for knowing how much of a TW you've read
Hello, Thanks to everyone for all the feedback. My next version of the plugin is up: http://jrlplugins.tiddlyspace.com/ - it's showing in the MainMenu now. The motivation for this is that I want to think of this plugin as a TiddlyWiki analogue of page numbers in a book - it and they show you how far through you are. So I've made it much more compact and removed the text. Changes: 1. You can provide a single parameter, which sets the width in pixels e.g. readCount 100 2. The read and unread text has gone and the numbers have changed what they show - now it's x/total, rather than x/y, where x is read and y unread. I think this is more sensible. When you click on a number, you get a list of the read or unread tiddlers. Source: http://jrlplugins.tiddlyspace.com/readCountPlugin (FND, haven't tweaked the content-type yet...) Hope this is an improvement. J. On Aug 1, 1:42 pm, twgrp matiasg...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 22, 6:56 pm, jnthnlstr jnthnl...@gmail.com wrote: Any feedback welcome. Hey, great plugin! Feedback; 1) Would be good if n UNREAD was a clickable link giving a list of those unread tiddlers. 2) ...and, deluxe version, if they could be sorted by tags so that you can tell what subject or such that they belong to. 3) ...also, if #1 is implemented, it'd be good with a count only if tagged X feature - i.e I send off a TW to a friend and I want him to know how many of those X-tagged tiddlers he is supposed to read. 4) I take it that this plugin is of particular relevance when others are reading your TW. Thus, how does the count deal with public and private tiddlers? 5) The headline over the counting reads Progress throu... and is cut. I tried enlarging and diminishing the font size (Crtl and + or -) but can't get it proper. Thank you again. In deed a problem to know how much you've read in a TW. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Announcing: readCount plugin, for knowing how much of a TW you've read
Hello, I've always found it tricky to know how big a TiddlyWiki is and how much of it I've consumed. It's also a problem when I give a TiddlyWiki to someone else, who is new to it. I've just written a plugin that aims to help with this - it shows you how much of the current document you have read and provides links to both the read and unread tiddlers. You can see it in action in the sidebar of this TiddlySpace: http://jrlplugins.tiddlyspace.com/ The source is here: http://jrlplugins.tiddlyspace.com/readCountPlugin Any feedback welcome. J. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Program so to open TiddlyWiki without a web browser?
I seem to remember that changing the .html extension to .hta lets you run TiddlyWiki as a HTML application on Windows. This might help some people as the permissions are enhanced. A post on Ajaxian mentioning this and TiddlyWiki: http://ajaxian.com/archives/ms-html-applications J. On Jul 22, 7:05 pm, Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/; giff...@gmail.com wrote: Just wondering if there would be a way to distribute a TiddlyWiki file with a program other than a web browser. My reasons for asking: old versions of IE show a warning screen. Google Chrome cookie issues, etc. Lord knows what changes will come to browsers in the next couple years. I'd like to give someone a program that opens TiddlyWiki files witout any fuss, and if possible would allow for updates via Internet from a master TiddlyWiki file on a server. Any ideas? Or is this crazy? Dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Customer ordering a tiddler list genereated by a macro
Thanks everybody for the responses! This is clearly an area well explored by the presentation-givers. I've had a poke through the suggestions, will have a think about what's right for me. J. On Apr 28, 10:06 am, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote: Hi This is an example of applying mature tools into a very functional workflow. Simple and brilliant: For this sort of application (getting slides into a set sequence) I use Erics CollapseTiddlers (to minimize the sapce they take up) them re-order them with RearrangeTiddlersPlugin...and finally store that sequence using SaveStory...works well... Skye Great advice!!! Thanks Skye regards Måns Mårtensson On 27 Abr, 13:22, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I made a plugin, jQSorter [1], that may be of interest. There is some more Info at the intro post [2] have fun! Mario [1]http://a-pm-experimental.tiddlyspot.com/ [2]http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/2b356a... On Apr 27, 4:48 pm, jnthnlstr jnthnl...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I'd like to be able to take a list of tiddlers, which has been generated by a macro, and re-order them (drag them up and down?) so they appear with an order that I want. Does anyone know a plugin that will do this for me? Thanks, J. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Custom ordering a tiddler list genereated by a macro
Using fields could be made automateable by having a little plugin for
drag 'n' drop re-ordering the lists, with a callback that sets the
fields appropriately:
$(#item_list).sortable({stop: function() { /* re-order the fields
here */ } });
J.
On Apr 27, 4:45 pm, whatever kbrezov...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not sure that's possible. However, if that list is static or
doesn't change often, then you could use fields. For example, you
create the field Sequence or whatever you want to call it and then
give it value 10 for the first tiddler, 20 for the second and so on.
Why not 1, 2, 3...? So you can insert other tiddlers, if necessary.
When each tiddler has a value, you can use Udo's ForEachTiddlerPlugin
(http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#ForEachTiddlerPlugin).
For example:
forEachTiddler
where
'tiddler.tags.contains(WhateverTagYourTiddlersHaveInCommon)'
sortBy
'tiddler.Sequence'
w
On Apr 27, 4:49 pm, jnthnlstr jnthnl...@googlemail.com wrote:
Sorry, editing subject.
On Apr 27, 3:48 pm, jnthnlstr jnthnl...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to be able to take a list of tiddlers, which has been
generated by a macro, and re-order them (drag them up and down?) so
they appear with an order that I want.
Does anyone know a plugin that will do this for me?
Thanks,
J.
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[tw] Re: AdvancedFilterTiddlers Plugin (supporting fields and AND statements)
Wow. Interesting way to approach the code. Nice work. I guess with this filtering thing it's not really a core requirement, hence why there are 3+ different plugins to solve the problem. What amount of filtering syntax would you say is definitely a core requirement? I can't see that the (int) (float) etc. stuff is particularly common. J. On Dec 7, 1:35 pm, rakugo jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: I've been getting increasingly frustrated with the TiddlyWiki filtering in the core in that it * does not support and filtering * does not support fields I wanted a filtering mechanism that worked with DefaultTiddlers in particularly I was finding with my TiddlyWeb development I increasingly wanted to use the filter [server.bag[bagname]] in my DefaultTiddlers tiddler where server.bag is a custom field TiddlyWeb defines. I was determined to use a syntax such as [tag[tag1]tag[tag2]] for and filters as it seemed to quite readable syntax. Turns out it was a bit of a can of worms, I noticed lots of people have tried to solve this problem and problems faced involved code size, code readability and from a development point of view issues with defining regular expressions to match the different syntaxes. I've been a bit alternative and have created a version of the function without any use of regular expressions, instead resorting to defining a finite state automata (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finite- state_machine) and in doing so proved my self wrong when I said several years ago at uni that this will never be useful to me. It's pretty powerful and I imagine it is very useful in conjunction with the list macro already in the core, so I imagine it's not just me that will find this useful. I've constructed a TiddlyWiki which explores the possibilities of what you can do with this plugin:http://www.jonrobson.me.uk/development/AdvancedFilterTiddlersPlugin/i... Word of warning - the plugin overrides the sortTiddlers and filterTiddlers core functions. Hope someone else finds this useful. Jon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: three star ratings in RatingsMacro and rating Summary
Dickon, If I understand correctly, Tobias' plugin works on the tiddler itself to add a rating, so you'd need an expansion of this plugin to work with multiple people rating tiddlers. You might also be interested in this TiddlyWeb discussion about a voting system: http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlyweb/browse_thread/thread/3bbedd8c41b52e5d J. On Nov 9, 11:28 am, dickon dickon.beving...@googlemail.com wrote: I am following this thread with great interest but only understanding small parts of it from a technical point of view. Can I ask a question about the *application* of this function, once it is up and running, though? Am I right in thinking that in a TiddlyWeb you could use this to allow multiple users to provide feedback on the usefulness of particular tiddlers - that could be gathered up in a separate 'bag', and which might then help refine the content in the document over time? I am thinking in particular of how it might be used in the treatment manual that is slowly growing athttp://imp.peermore.com/imp/recipes/editorial/tiddlers.wiki Cheers, Dickon On Nov 8, 2:40 pm, Tobias -http://tbGTD.tiddlyspot.com; beertob...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Alex, Well, the results aren't really sent anywhere. Instead the tiddler (transcluded or not) that fiddle withratinginformation like RatingSummary are being 'refreshed' (update their contents). This is what the 'update' function in RatingMacro is for and 'refresh' sure would have been a more appropriate name for it. It loops over all those tiddlers which you specified for being updated (aka 'refreshed') which I stored in the 'rel' attribute of theratingwrapper. Somewhere in the loop it does just the following: story.refreshTiddler(tids[i],null,true); refreshDisplay(tids[i]); ...which I assume doesn't work with TiddlersBar as for now, since all tiddlers except the currently visible are 'display:none' and therefore presumably skipped by the core 'refresh' handler. So I am not sure if this is something the core could be amenable to or whether TiddlersBar requires some more tinkering with. Anyone around with a more indepth understanding of the process or an idea on how to refresh hidden content? Tobias. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Announcement: Free and open TiddlyWiki hosting on LimeBits
Hello, Is LimeBits anything to do with LimeWire? I see you have their logo. J. On Jun 11, 9:26 pm, Ted t...@limebits.com wrote: Hi Alex, You can also copy TiddlyWiki (or anything other files) in and out of your LimeBits workspace by mounting it directly from your desktop and treating it like just another folder. Seehttp://bits.limebits.com/help/mounting.html Hope that helps. Best, Ted On Jun 11, 2:33 pm, Paritosh Shah shah.parit...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for reporting the problem. Note that you do get the complete file ( even though it has a .part extension ), but it does not have the correct filename. - Paritosh. On Jun 11, 1:32 pm, Alex Hough r.a.ho...@googlemail.com wrote: I see. Saving is very fast. There is a bug on download. it downloads as .part file. looks good ALex 2009/6/11 Alex Hough r.a.ho...@googlemail.com: Hi Paritosh, What are the benefits of this service over tiddlyspot? Alex 2009/6/11 Paritosh Shah shah.parit...@gmail.com: Hi All, We've just added TiddlyWiki hosting to LimeBits, a community for sharing open-source websites. The TiddlyWiki community hums with creativity and collaboration, so we're excited to see what it can do with instant copying, flexible permissions, and the ability to mix TiddlyWiki with other web pages and apps. Put your TiddlyWiki online with one click: Go tohttp://tiddlywiki.limebits.com/ What you get * Host it free. You get a personal URL and workspace with plenty of storage. Put multiple TiddlyWikis, images, docs and other sites in your workspace. Add custom domain names if you like. * Share it the way you want. Keep your TiddlyWiki private, let everyone see it, copy it, or contribute. All signin is handled securely over https. * Edit it like you're on the desktop. Access all files and archives. Mount your workspace or use our online development tools. * Move it anytime. Use it online or off with no modifications. What's LimeBits? LimeBits is a collaboration platform where everyone benefits from the contributions of everyone else - designer or coder, amateur or pro. * Pick from the growing pool of sites: wikis, blogs, party invites, and more athttp://limebits.com/ * Mix and modify * Share back with the community Try it LimeBits is alpha so it's changing fast. There's a team listening to public input. * Report bugs, request features, make suggestions of any kind * Put up your favorite TiddlyWiki flavor and it will be featured in LimeBits Cheers, Paritosh Shah from the LimeBits community, http://limebits.com/ -- http://www.multiurl.com/g/64 --http://www.multiurl.com/g/64 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: TiddlyTweets updated - now with search and handling oversized tweet archives
Måns, That's really cool that you've translated TiddlyTweets to Danish! I'd like to see what you do with the framedLinksPlugin. Do post a URL when you have something to show. J. On Apr 25, 5:08 pm, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote: Hi J I think TiddlyTweets is a new type of TiddlyWiki application, which shows that simplicity in layout and great plugins can turn it into a browserprogram for everyone. I really like the simplicity of it.. I've translated it into danish and I will use framedLinksPlugin to open the original TwitterWebsite inline. (I considered using an iframe - but I don't wish to clutter the VERY clean and simple interface) Thank you for showing a new way of using TiddlyWiki - and keeping it usable as a normal TiddlyWiki as well!! It's great! Regards Måns Mårtensson On Apr 25, 5:29 pm, jnthnlstr jnthnl...@googlemail.com wrote: Glad you like it Tony! Do you have any specific suggestions about how to make what's presented easier to understand? It seems that explanation of the tweet identifier would be a start. J. On Apr 24, 9:01 pm, tony cca...@gmail.com wrote: Great work, very nifty! I like the lifestream, Udo's YourSearch integration and switchable themes. I'm not sure about the tweet identifier in the search results, but I guess it's either a date or something from twitter. Anyway, TiddlyTweets is a handy way to backup twitter feeds! Best, tony On Apr 24, 12:04 pm, jnthnlstr jnthnl...@googlemail.com wrote: http://osmosoft.com/tiddlytweets/ Any feedback much appreciated. J. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: TiddlyTweets updated - now with search and handling oversized tweet archives
Tony, Thanks for the feedback about using descriptive tiddler titles. Will give it some thought. J. On Apr 27, 9:33 pm, tony cca...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 25, 8:29 am, jnthnlstr jnthnl...@googlemail.com wrote: Glad you like it Tony! Do you have any specific suggestions about how to make what's presented easier to understand? It seems that explanation of the tweet identifier would be a start. J. Hi J., After I looked at the source for my updates, I saw that meta entry- meta class for the tweet id. I think it makes logical sense to keep the tweet identifier as that 10 digit number. Good choice. But at first, I had to do a double take when this numeric identifier was the tiddler title. I guess a little blurb in the documentation can help explain that TiddllyTweet will archive your tweets in tiddler format using the unique tweet update identifier (TweetID) from Twitter. This unique tweet identifier is also used when you save your tweets as csv. Another idea is maybe having a template to substitute or prefix the tweet id for something more human readable like username + entry date as the tiddler title; kinda like going into for each tiddler plugin territory. Anyway, I think TiddllyTweet is fine as is because of the convenience it offers and highlighting TiddlyWiki when paired with the trendy Twitter service. It's applications like these that will help further evangelize TiddlyWiki more in the mainstream. Neato! Thanks again Best, tony --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: TiddlyTweets updated - now with search and handling oversized tweet archives
Alex, You'd probably want to use an adaptor that talks to delicious - we have one that talks to Twitter. Otherwise, it should be a pretty similar app. J. On Apr 27, 9:45 pm, Alex Hough r.a.ho...@googlemail.com wrote: As part of an experimental project in the NHS I have to convert 200+ delicious entries into a format for off-line reading. (There is very highly protected web access in this particular site) The tags all share a particular tag. It would be really good to do this with TiddlyTweet technology. I asked about it before an was directed towards a plugin by Simon McMannus i think, but it was a work in progress and I couldn't get it to work. If I was to embark on adapting tweets for delicious, where would I start? Is there anyone else interesting in this function? Alex 2009/4/27 tony cca...@gmail.com On Apr 25, 8:29 am, jnthnlstr jnthnl...@googlemail.com wrote: Glad you like it Tony! Do you have any specific suggestions about how to make what's presented easier to understand? It seems that explanation of the tweet identifier would be a start. J. Hi J., After I looked at the source for my updates, I saw that meta entry- meta class for the tweet id. I think it makes logical sense to keep the tweet identifier as that 10 digit number. Good choice. But at first, I had to do a double take when this numeric identifier was the tiddler title. I guess a little blurb in the documentation can help explain that TiddllyTweet will archive your tweets in tiddler format using the unique tweet update identifier (TweetID) from Twitter. This unique tweet identifier is also used when you save your tweets as csv. Another idea is maybe having a template to substitute or prefix the tweet id for something more human readable like username + entry date as the tiddler title; kinda like going into for each tiddler plugin territory. Anyway, I think TiddllyTweet is fine as is because of the convenience it offers and highlighting TiddlyWiki when paired with the trendy Twitter service. It's applications like these that will help further evangelize TiddlyWiki more in the mainstream. Neato! Thanks again Best, tony -- t: 0161 442 2202 m: 0781 372 50 17 skype: alexhough delicious: alexhough --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: TiddlyTweets updated - now with search and handling oversized tweet archives
Glad you like it Tony! Do you have any specific suggestions about how to make what's presented easier to understand? It seems that explanation of the tweet identifier would be a start. J. On Apr 24, 9:01 pm, tony cca...@gmail.com wrote: Great work, very nifty! I like the lifestream, Udo's YourSearch integration and switchable themes. I'm not sure about the tweet identifier in the search results, but I guess it's either a date or something from twitter. Anyway, TiddlyTweets is a handy way to backup twitter feeds! Best, tony On Apr 24, 12:04 pm, jnthnlstr jnthnl...@googlemail.com wrote: http://osmosoft.com/tiddlytweets/ Any feedback much appreciated. J. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Forms from Tiddlers - Applied TW's Vs. TW Development
Alex, I found that article by Margaret Wheatley about measurement very enjoyable reading. Thanks for sharing. http://www.margaretwheatley.com/articles/whymeasure.html J. On Apr 22, 9:00 am, alex r.a.ho...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Dickton, RE: the capacity to date and save the results so that a score at time A can then be compared to one done later at Time B. I'm also interested in this: the biggest survey project I have on is about surveying organisations. I think it could be done by adding date data to the questions and generate them differently each time the questionnaire is filled in. Its going to be some time before I start thinking about this though. I have an 'IT guardian' helping me to 'deliver' using a method called DSDM [1] which makes the easily distracted 'developer' (me) focus on user interface first. I think that once I am using TiddlyWeb that I will be ready to add this functionality. Collecting and saving the data and the project being fully adopted would require some data storage expert's input. They who still come from the nations that measure are now consumed by Micosoft Excel. [2] Re: Wilfred Bion , unconscious links and neuroscience: *integrative* tool. Dickton said: There is a seminal paper (1959) in the field of psychoanalysis by a British analyst called Wilfred Bion titled Attacks on Linking, and to summarise this very complex and dense piece of writing, he is saying that unconscious processes (which might be construed as havinga vested interest in remaining unconscious) conspire to keep apart material that could and probably should be linked in the mind [3] A piece of research about to be published in the Journal of Cognitive Neuroscience, by Joydeep Bhattacharya at Goldsmiths’ College in London and Bhavin Sheth at the University of Houston, in Texas, suggests that although people are not consciously aware of it, their brains have to be in a certain state for an insight to take place. Moreover, that state can be detected electrically several seconds in advance of the “aha!” moment itself. [4] Continuing the conversation about linking about abstract notions such as What, precisely (semantically and pragmatically, that is), is a link, and a tag? and what does non-linearity offer to the reader and writer that more conventional linear text forms lack? [3] I have been thinking about linking but mostly through the lens of cybernetics and systems. Ross Ashby, Heinz von Forester, Maturana [5] I am not thinking too hard about it: perhaps my mind has a subconscious reason for this, by the conscious reason is that I don't want to end up blowing a gasket. Alex [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_Systems_Development_Method [2]http://www.margaretwheatley.com/articles/whymeasure.html [3] Bevington, D., Forms from Tiddlers - Applied TW's Vs. TW Development - TiddlyWiki | Google Groups. Available at:http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki/msg/ad5f40b61088e13d [Accessed April 22, 2009]. [4] Unconscious thought precedes conscious: Incognito. The Economist. Available at:http://www.economist.com/science/displaystory.cfm?story_id=13489722 [Accessed April 21, 2009]. [5] Von Foerster, H., 1987. Understanding computers and cognition: A new foundation of design : Terry Winograd and Fernando Flores Norwood, NJ: Ablex Publishing Corporation, 1986, 207 pages, $24.95. Technological Forecasting and Social Change, 32(3), 311-318. On Apr 22, 1:05 am,dickondickon.beving...@googlemail.com wrote: Thanks again Alex. Will try to look at these two ways of doing forms. Not sure I am the one to make a decision about which way is the best way to head with a view to getting as much fucntionality oput of these questionnaires as possible. The other function I would really like (as if I can't I am condemned to export the data each time the questionnaire is completed) is the capacity to date and save the results so that a score at time A can then be compared to one done later at Time B. Best, Dickon On Apr 19, 8:46 am, Alex Hough r.a.ho...@googlemail.com wrote: I've just used plugins and help to build my capacity. I guess it has taken me months to kind of solve how to do the questions, but once i found the plugins, understood how they worked, messed about with questionnaires I can duplicate them quite quickly. I am still not sure this way is the right way to go. Saq has a method whcih works with TiddlyWeb which uses another way to generate the forms. This might be better in the long run so that multiple questionnaries can be colleceted togtrher. It might not be so great a jump to get from here to allocating a score to each item according to whether it is not true, somewhat true or certainly true? It has scores: 1= not true , 2= somewhat true , 3 = certainly true. These scores are captured in the tiddler with the help of DataTiddler The for each tiddler plugin sorts the
[tw] TiddlyTweets updated - now with search and handling oversized tweet archives
http://osmosoft.com/tiddlytweets/ Any feedback much appreciated. J. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: TiddlyTweets - a TiddlyWiki web app to archive your tweets
TiddlyWiki's pulling in both tweets and delicious bookmarks, yes that could be done. It'd be interesting to pull in from a variety of sources, where you get anything tagged with a certain tag. I'm sure there are examples of this being done somewhere (non-TiddlyWiki). J. On Mar 10, 2:51 pm, Alex Hough r.a.ho...@googlemail.com wrote: What do you mean about Twitter becoming the first step in an expendable channel? ah ... there is a typo here i meant expandable channel. By expandable i mean expanding it by filtering, number of ways it can be shared, number of ways it can be combined and linked with other information. I've tried to get out what I mean below. Its not been refined, so there could be some errors ;) Double Brackets in Delicious -- At the moment I am experimenting with adding [[double brackets]] in Delicious. I am using Delicious to bookmark resources for a group interested in Creativirty and Health. The idea is that the group adopts using the same tag; this has some evidence of success in the 'Community of Practice' community (Community of Practice [0.5] has some established credibility, in education and healthcare so I am using it as an example to show the tags and bookmarks are not something crazy i dreamed up. The same principal is behind hash tags in twitter. I see a use for both Twitter and Delicious being aggregated and saved in TW used by a group. The value of this in my project is because security is very tight. Web is not available in some areas, and there is crackdown on memory sticks. An html TW 'magazine' which can be e-mailed or a printed to PDF could show the content generated elsewhere. It would enable those who are trying to encourage the innovation in social media in contexts like health and education can see what is going on; At the moment their IT environments are vastly different from ones us outside enjoy Report Extended in Delicious --- The horizon 2009 [2] report makes use of Delicious tags to add extend the report's 'text' to include dynamicl produced elements [3]. If you wanted to extend these resources into your Personal Non-Linear Learning Notebook, you could add double brackets when you bookmark and tag (more often than not i generate the note by selecting the abstract before bookmarking - the text is automatically added to the bookmark). When you fire up your tw, you can then review the bookmarks and expand out following nonexisting links. The underused 'references' function would form a link to the bookmark and the URL if the link was existing. This process would come in especially usefull when bookmarking [[academic references]] containing [[keywords]] -- capture them from the paper then check 'em out in wikipedia! ha TWs, with Tiddlers with links expanding from the bookmarked URL would enable a team to build up a knowledge base of linked together stuff, some of which is public and other bits private. Alex [0.5]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_of_practice [1]http://delicious.com/tag/communityofpractice [2]http://wp.nmc.org/horizon2009/ [3]http://delicious.com/tag/hz09+personalweb When imported into a TW using rssReader asText the double bracket is wikified. 2009/3/10 jnthnlstr jnthnl...@googlemail.com: Thanks Fred for fixing the url and to Ken for being the first to report a bug! ;) Alex, I do like the idea of a Twitter client written in TiddlyWiki... About your idea of tweeting [[tw stuff]] to send to your own TiddlyWiki, I've been trying to make that. You could do that very easily if you're happy to tweet in public; for privacy, I think you either need another Twitter account to send a dm to, or make use of a service that lets you dm yourself (I'm trying to make that too). What do you mean about Twitter becoming the first step in an expendable channel? J. On Mar 10, 10:49 am, Alex Hough r.a.ho...@googlemail.com wrote: This offers some interesting possibilities, like tweeting with [[tw stuff]] to send stuff to your own TW. Also twitter can become the first step in an expendable channel. Could the plugins be easily adapted for delicious? ALex 2009/3/9 jnthnlstr jnthnl...@googlemail.com: Hello, I don't know if people on this list are as mental as I am about Twitter, but I really enjoy using it and, more recently, playing with it as a messaging channel... Anyhow, after prompting from Jeremy, I assembled this Twitter Archiver, which is a TiddlyWiki presented as a web app: http://osmosoft.com/TiddlyTweets I'm posting here because I think it's an interesting example of using a theme to hide the guts of TiddlyWiki, with a little button that switches you back into TiddlyWiki mode so you can get to the stored data and plugins, and see how it's put together. If anyone has any thoughts about how to make this into a better example
[tw] Re: TiddlyTweets - a TiddlyWiki web app to archive your tweets
Thanks Fred for fixing the url and to Ken for being the first to report a bug! ;) Alex, I do like the idea of a Twitter client written in TiddlyWiki... About your idea of tweeting [[tw stuff]] to send to your own TiddlyWiki, I've been trying to make that. You could do that very easily if you're happy to tweet in public; for privacy, I think you either need another Twitter account to send a dm to, or make use of a service that lets you dm yourself (I'm trying to make that too). What do you mean about Twitter becoming the first step in an expendable channel? J. On Mar 10, 10:49 am, Alex Hough r.a.ho...@googlemail.com wrote: This offers some interesting possibilities, like tweeting with [[tw stuff]] to send stuff to your own TW. Also twitter can become the first step in an expendable channel. Could the plugins be easily adapted for delicious? ALex 2009/3/9 jnthnlstr jnthnl...@googlemail.com: Hello, I don't know if people on this list are as mental as I am about Twitter, but I really enjoy using it and, more recently, playing with it as a messaging channel... Anyhow, after prompting from Jeremy, I assembled this Twitter Archiver, which is a TiddlyWiki presented as a web app: http://osmosoft.com/TiddlyTweets I'm posting here because I think it's an interesting example of using a theme to hide the guts of TiddlyWiki, with a little button that switches you back into TiddlyWiki mode so you can get to the stored data and plugins, and see how it's put together. If anyone has any thoughts about how to make this into a better example of this pattern, or has any similar examples, I'd love to hear about that here. If you have any feedback or ideas about the application itself, I set up a UserVoice to use for that, where you can vote stuff up and track what's planned, development and finished. http://tiddlytweets.uservoice.com Thanks, J. -- t: 0161 442 2202 m: 0781 372 50 17 skype: alexhough delicious: alexhough --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] TiddlyTweets - a TiddlyWiki web app to archive your tweets
Hello, I don't know if people on this list are as mental as I am about Twitter, but I really enjoy using it and, more recently, playing with it as a messaging channel... Anyhow, after prompting from Jeremy, I assembled this Twitter Archiver, which is a TiddlyWiki presented as a web app: http://osmosoft.com/TiddlyTweets I'm posting here because I think it's an interesting example of using a theme to hide the guts of TiddlyWiki, with a little button that switches you back into TiddlyWiki mode so you can get to the stored data and plugins, and see how it's put together. If anyone has any thoughts about how to make this into a better example of this pattern, or has any similar examples, I'd love to hear about that here. If you have any feedback or ideas about the application itself, I set up a UserVoice to use for that, where you can vote stuff up and track what's planned, development and finished. http://tiddlytweets.uservoice.com Thanks, J. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Playing with Cecily
Wow Eric, that's very comprehensive. Thanks for the pointer. J. On Feb 2, 5:44 pm, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote: I giving Jeremy's Cecily [1] a bit of try out at the moment. My workbook is up on the web at:http://jnthnlstr.tiddlyspot.com. Although it's not a *zoomable* UI like Cecily, you might also like to take a look at http://www.TiddlyTools.com/quickstart/moveable.html This TiddlyTools QuickStart document combines MoveablePanelPlugin, PanelManagerPlugin, and DragScrollPlugin to add a desktop-like interface to *any* TiddlyWiki document... and, because the code doesn't use any 'canvas' functions, it can be used with most *current* browsers, including FF3.0.x, IE7, Safari and Chrome. a command to save all open tiddlers as DefaultTiddlers Try this: http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#StorySaverPlugin 3. Being able to set a map as the default tiddlers would be good I just recently had a similar request to extend PanelManagerPlugin's moveablePanel load map function, so that any tiddlers included in the specified 'panel map' can be opened as soon as that map is loaded. 4. Being able to flick back and forth between Cecily and normal GUI would be useful / could be useful / could help with transitioning I'm not sure how this would be done in Cecily. However, in moveable.html the PanelManager popup menu (ALT-CLICK on page background) contains commands that let you to save the active panel map in a tiddler and then 'dock' all panels to return them to their default 'anchor' points. When you later want to apply the previous desktop layout, simply select the saved panel map from the PanelManager popup menu. enjoy, -e Eric Shulman TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
