[tw5] Re: Updating the community showcase page on TiddlyWiki.com

[odin...@gmail.com]

Did the first pass through all the entries and added some new.

I did the following:

   1. Split the 'resources' tab into categories (Community plugins, 
   Community themes, Community palettes, Community Editions, Other Resources)
   2. Removed entries with dead links (and one entry on by request)
   3. Added entries based on the 'best of 2020 forum thread' 
   <https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/f23Eof4TTHI/m/m5ShOM7rBQAJ>
   4. Went through all existing entries and sorted them into the new 
   categories by changing the tags and moving them into new folders.


See the pull request 
here: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/5353
This was my first or second time using git outside of tutorials, so it was 
a fun learning experience, hopefully, everything went well.

@Mohammed: For now I just went with the recurring standard I saw. But a 
standardized template is a good idea. What would you include in the 
template?
Op donderdag 31 december 2020 om 15:42:29 UTC+1 schreef David Gifford:

> Hi Odin
>
> Remove the Obadiah TOC link because it's old, ugly, and there are many 
> more new and better ways to do that.
>
> Yes, feel free to add my documenting TW site.
>
> And please, please add Stroll.
>
> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:36:57 AM UTC-6 odin...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the reply!
>> The link works for me. I can remove it of course, but It might still be 
>> useful for people as inspiration, don't you think? Or Do you want it 
>> removed because you don't want it featured?
>> I just realised that your personal documentation wiki might also be 
>> useful. Can we add it to the list or would you rather not?
>>
>> Op donderdag 31 december 2020 om 12:16:49 UTC+1 schreef David Gifford:
>>
>>> Hi Odin! Awesome, glad you are doing this. The community section needs 
>>> some love.
>>>
>>> While you are at it, please have the Obadiah TOC tiddler removed from 
>>> tiddlywiki.com. Dead link to an old site of mine. I alerted people here 
>>> years ago to remove it, and nothing happened. Thanks.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 4:56:40 AM UTC-6 odin...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone!
>>>>
>>>> With the new year starting tomorrow I was thinking about updating the 
>>>> community 
>>>> section <http://Community> on the official TiddlyWiki site. To check 
>>>> if all the links are still working, and to add helpful plugins and 
>>>> editions 
>>>> that have been made this past year. My goal would be to increase the 
>>>> chance 
>>>> that we inspire newcomers to try out TiddlyWIki, and to help them find the 
>>>> building blocks to adust TiddlyWiki to their use.
>>>>
>>>> My plan is to collect entries in this thread. And then to create a pull 
>>>> request to add them to the website.
>>>>
>>>> Secondly, the list under the tab 'resources' is really long and thus a 
>>>> bit unwieldy. I would like to propose to split up this list into different 
>>>> categories for easier browse, search and lookup. My proposal would be to 
>>>> split it into the following tabs: 
>>>> 1) Plugins (for all community made plugins such as shiraz, krystal, 
>>>> projectify etc.)
>>>> 2) Themes & Palettes (self-explanatory. Maybe even split this one in 
>>>> two as well)
>>>> 3) Editions (preconfigured Wiki's with a number of plugins for a 
>>>> certain goal/usecase such as: drift, stroll, tiddlyresearch etc.)
>>>> 4) Other resources (such as macro's, widgets, code snippets etc. that 
>>>> don't fall into the other categories)
>>>>
>>>> To clarify, this is to split the current 'resources' tab and thus keep 
>>>> the Tutorials, Examples and Articles categories for their respective use.
>>>>
>>>> I am opening this thread to ask for input on what to add. This is the 
>>>> draft of the list based on my bookmarks and the entrees people gave in the 
>>>> best 
>>>> of 2020 thread <https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/f23Eof4TTHI>:
>>>>
>>>> Plugins
>>>> 1) Projectify <https://nicolas.petton.fr/tw/projectify.html>
>>>> 2) Command Palette <https://souk21.github.io/TW-commandpalette/>
>>>> 3) TWCrosslinks 
>>>> <https://akhater.github.io/drift/#Plugin%20-%20TWCrosslinks>
>>>> 4)  Editor Autolist 
>>>> <

[tw5] Re: Concatenating contents of multiple fields into one textfield

[odin...@gmail.com]

Thanks for the reply!

what would the correct syntax be in this case?

<$action-createtiddler
$basetitle=<>
tags="[[Six Minute Journal]]"
text=<$macrocall $name="sixminutejournal" 
grateful={{$:/temp/odin/sixminutejournal!!sixminute-grateful}} 
great={{$:/temp/odin/sixminutejournal!!sixminute-great}} 
affirmation={{$:/temp/odin/sixminutejournal!!sixminute-affirmation}}>
sixminute-time='21:00'


This doesn't work. I tried some options in which I incase it with ', or  ", 
or {{{ }}}. But I think I am not getting the syntax right. Or should I use 
a different widget in the first place?
Op woensdag 30 december 2020 om 23:49:45 UTC+1 schreef TW Tones:

> The approach you are using is valid; Using a macro and replaceable 
> parameters, however
>
> use the $macrocall widget for sixminutejournal then the parameters will 
> accept {{transclusions}} or <>
>
> The method you used is not valid, inside simple macro calls.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Thursday, 31 December 2020 at 07:00:16 UTC+11 odin...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I am working on a little plugin that allows users to fill in a short 
>> reflection on the day. There are 3 questions and I am using an edit-text 
>> widget to provide for an input. The structure is like this:
>>
>> !! I am grateful for...
>> <$edit-text> for the answer stored in a temp tiddler field
>> !! What would make today great?
>> <$edit-text> for the answer stored in a temp tiddler field 
>> !! Daily affirmation. I am...
>> <$edit-text> for the answer stored in a temp tiddler field   
>>
>> Now I can use a viewtemplate to show this in the tiddler that is gets 
>> stored into, just like I did with my recipe plugin. But in this case I 
>> would like to Concatenate the questions and the answers into one text field 
>> so that users can later edit their journal entry. But I can't figure out 
>> how to.
>>
>> I think the answer lies in either a macro or the vars widget (maybe 
>> both). But I am stuck and I am not understanding the documentation 
>> correctly.
>>
>> So far I have this
>>
>> \define sixminutejournal(grateful, great, affirmation) 
>> !!! I am grateful for:
>>
>> $grateful$
>>
>> !!! What would make today great?
>>
>> $great$
>>
>> !!! Daily affirmation. I am ...
>>
>> $affirmation$
>> \end
>>
>> And then calling the macro with inside the button that creates the 
>> tiddler:
>> text=<> grateful:{{$:/temp/odin/sixminutejournal!!sixminute-grateful}} 
>> great:{{$:/temp/odin/sixminutejournal!!sixminute-great}} 
>> affirmation:{{$:/temp/odin/sixminutejournal!!sixminute-affirmation}}>>
>>
>> But this leads to:
>>
>> !!! I am grateful for:
>>
>> {{$:/temp/odin/sixminutejournal!!sixminute-grateful}}
>>
>> !!! What would make today great?
>>
>> {{$:/temp/odin/sixminutejournal!!sixminute-great}}
>>
>> !!! Daily affirmation. I am ...
>>
>> {{$:/temp/odin/sixminutejournal!!sixminute-affirmation}}
>>
>>
>> How do I get this to fill in the answers and paste it instead?
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Updating the community showcase page on TiddlyWiki.com

[odin...@gmail.com]

Thanks for the reply!
The link works for me. I can remove it of course, but It might still be 
useful for people as inspiration, don't you think? Or Do you want it 
removed because you don't want it featured?
I just realised that your personal documentation wiki might also be useful. 
Can we add it to the list or would you rather not?

Op donderdag 31 december 2020 om 12:16:49 UTC+1 schreef David Gifford:

> Hi Odin! Awesome, glad you are doing this. The community section needs 
> some love.
>
> While you are at it, please have the Obadiah TOC tiddler removed from 
> tiddlywiki.com. Dead link to an old site of mine. I alerted people here 
> years ago to remove it, and nothing happened. Thanks.
>
> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 4:56:40 AM UTC-6 odin...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone!
>>
>> With the new year starting tomorrow I was thinking about updating the 
>> community 
>> section <http://Community> on the official TiddlyWiki site. To check if 
>> all the links are still working, and to add helpful plugins and editions 
>> that have been made this past year. My goal would be to increase the chance 
>> that we inspire newcomers to try out TiddlyWIki, and to help them find the 
>> building blocks to adust TiddlyWiki to their use.
>>
>> My plan is to collect entries in this thread. And then to create a pull 
>> request to add them to the website.
>>
>> Secondly, the list under the tab 'resources' is really long and thus a 
>> bit unwieldy. I would like to propose to split up this list into different 
>> categories for easier browse, search and lookup. My proposal would be to 
>> split it into the following tabs: 
>> 1) Plugins (for all community made plugins such as shiraz, krystal, 
>> projectify etc.)
>> 2) Themes & Palettes (self-explanatory. Maybe even split this one in two 
>> as well)
>> 3) Editions (preconfigured Wiki's with a number of plugins for a certain 
>> goal/usecase such as: drift, stroll, tiddlyresearch etc.)
>> 4) Other resources (such as macro's, widgets, code snippets etc. that 
>> don't fall into the other categories)
>>
>> To clarify, this is to split the current 'resources' tab and thus keep 
>> the Tutorials, Examples and Articles categories for their respective use.
>>
>> I am opening this thread to ask for input on what to add. This is the 
>> draft of the list based on my bookmarks and the entrees people gave in the 
>> best 
>> of 2020 thread <https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/f23Eof4TTHI>:
>>
>> Plugins
>> 1) Projectify <https://nicolas.petton.fr/tw/projectify.html>
>> 2) Command Palette <https://souk21.github.io/TW-commandpalette/>
>> 3) TWCrosslinks 
>> <https://akhater.github.io/drift/#Plugin%20-%20TWCrosslinks>
>> 4)  Editor Autolist 
>> <https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/editor-autolists.html>  
>> 5)  TiddlyRemember <https://sobjornstad.github.io/TiddlyRemember/> 
>> 6)  Streams plug in <https://saqimtiaz.github.io/streams/> 
>> 7) danielo's Context <http://contextplugin.tiddlyspot.com/>
>> 8) Relink Plugin <https://flibbles.github.io/tw5-relink/>
>> 9) linonetwo's Copy on select plug in <https://onetwo.ren/wiki/#:Index>
>> 10) My own recipe plugin ; - ) 
>> <https://odinjorna.github.io/recipe-plugin/>
>> 11) Timer Tools <http://tiddlytools.com/timer.html>
>>
>> Themes
>> 1)  Mono theme <http://j.d.mono.tiddlyspot.com/> 
>> 2)  Whitespace theme <http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/> 
>> 3)  Notebook theme <https://nicolas.petton.fr/tw/notebook.html>
>> 4) 
>>
>> Palettes
>> 1) Dracula palette <https://draculatheme.com/tiddlywiki>
>> 2) jd's palletes <http://j.d.palette.tiddlyspot.com/>
>> 3) 
>>
>> Editions
>> 1) Stroll <https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html>
>> 2) Drift <https://akhater.github.io/drift/>
>> 3) TiddlyResearch <https://kebifurai.github.io/TiddlyResearch/>
>> 4) Noteself <https://noteself.org/> (is already in the resource list, 
>> but I would sort it into this category instead)
>>
>> This is a list of current tiddlers on the tiddlywiki.com website that 
>> I've found so far with broken links, that are out of date or need updating:
>> 1)  Plugins by Uwe Stuehler 
>> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Plugins%20by%20Uwe%20Stuehler> - Link to a 
>> tidldywiki with javascript error
>> 2) "PETTIL - Forth for the Commodore PET" by Charlie Hitselberger 
>> <https:

[tw5] Updating the community showcase page on TiddlyWiki.com

[odin...@gmail.com]

Hi everyone!

With the new year starting tomorrow I was thinking about updating the community 
section  on the official TiddlyWiki site. To check if all 
the links are still working, and to add helpful plugins and editions that 
have been made this past year. My goal would be to increase the chance that 
we inspire newcomers to try out TiddlyWIki, and to help them find the 
building blocks to adust TiddlyWiki to their use.

My plan is to collect entries in this thread. And then to create a pull 
request to add them to the website.

Secondly, the list under the tab 'resources' is really long and thus a bit 
unwieldy. I would like to propose to split up this list into different 
categories for easier browse, search and lookup. My proposal would be to 
split it into the following tabs: 
1) Plugins (for all community made plugins such as shiraz, krystal, 
projectify etc.)
2) Themes & Palettes (self-explanatory. Maybe even split this one in two as 
well)
3) Editions (preconfigured Wiki's with a number of plugins for a certain 
goal/usecase such as: drift, stroll, tiddlyresearch etc.)
4) Other resources (such as macro's, widgets, code snippets etc. that don't 
fall into the other categories)

To clarify, this is to split the current 'resources' tab and thus keep the 
Tutorials, Examples and Articles categories for their respective use.

I am opening this thread to ask for input on what to add. This is the draft 
of the list based on my bookmarks and the entrees people gave in the best 
of 2020 thread :

Plugins
1) Projectify 
2) Command Palette 
3) TWCrosslinks 
4)  Editor Autolist 
  
5)  TiddlyRemember  
6)  Streams plug in  
7) danielo's Context 
8) Relink Plugin 
9) linonetwo's Copy on select plug in 
10) My own recipe plugin ; - ) 
11) Timer Tools 

Themes
1)  Mono theme  
2)  Whitespace theme  
3)  Notebook theme 
4) 

Palettes
1) Dracula palette 
2) jd's palletes 
3) 

Editions
1) Stroll 
2) Drift 
3) TiddlyResearch 
4) Noteself  (is already in the resource list, but I 
would sort it into this category instead)

This is a list of current tiddlers on the tiddlywiki.com website that I've 
found so far with broken links, that are out of date or need updating:
1)  Plugins by Uwe Stuehler 
 - Link to a 
tidldywiki with javascript error
2) "PETTIL - Forth for the Commodore PET" by Charlie Hitselberger 

 
- website is not online anymore. 
3) TiddlyDrive Add-on for Google Drive by Joshua Stubbs 

 - 
link to the instructions gives a 404 error
4) "TiddlyWiki5 Coding" by Chris Hunt 
 - 
site not found
5) "TWeb.at" by Mario Pietsch 
 - gives an 
empty unstyled 'work in progres' website
6) IndexedDB Plugin by Andreas Abeck 
 - 
coudn't reach site (can anyone check if it is the same on their end?)
7) TiddlyWiki Jingle by Måns Mårtensson 

 - 
page not found
8) "How Does Twederation Work" by Jed Carty 

 - 
the wiki does loads, but the tiddler is missing. Seems to be discontinued 
since 2016

Some closing thoughts: 
1) Third party/community build plugins and editions are not always updated. 
A disclaimer on top of the list reminding people to carefully read the 
instructions of the plugin creator, telling them the plugin might be 
outdated, and to BACK UP BEFORE INSTALLING would be in order.
2) In the future, maybe we can strive towards a community github repo with 
mature community-made plugins to build a plugin library. this way the 
installation of plugins is more seamless for the user. But this is a topic 
for another thread.

I hope

[tw5] Re: Seeking reviewers for an upcoming TiddlyWiki textbook (both experts and beginners)

[odin...@gmail.com]

Hi Soren!

I am an applied psychology student and I am using TiddlyWiki as a 
notetaking system/zettelkasten. I would rate myself between a beginner and 
intermediate by Stobots standards as I am starting to use widgets, but am 
often unsure how to use them properly. I would love to help out with 
reviewing! For one, because I would love to learn more about TiddlyWIki, 
two: Maybe my non-coding background can provide a perspective to see if the 
text is understandable for a broader audience, and three: I've been 
thinking about ways I could help people get into TiddlyWiki and this would 
be a way.

Op donderdag 31 december 2020 om 03:52:29 UTC+1 schreef Brian Radspinner:

> David, I'm guessing you mean *The Book Wiki 
> * by Kewapo 
> 
>
> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 7:11:51 PM UTC-7 David Gifford wrote:
>
>> Hi Soren
>>
>> 1) You might want to team up with...shoot, my mind is drawing a blank. 
>> But there is someone from Spain who has been working on a book for over a 
>> year. He had quite a bit of material.
>> 2) Would you consider a series of short videos? Or even offer a 
>> for-profit course based on a series of short videos? (similar to what Nat 
>> Eliason did for Roam Research). That would be more practical than a book 
>> for most users, and easier for you to update. If you did it well, you could 
>> make some money off of it! Nat's course allowed him to buy a second home. I 
>> doubt a TiddlyWiki course would do the same, unless TiddlyWiki suddenly 
>> took off, but at least it should be able to pay you back your time and 
>> expenses.
>> 3) I am by Stobot's reckoning, an intermediate user. Normally I would 
>> love to look it over. But now that vacations are done, I am going to be 
>> swamped until April with my regular job. Sorry!
>>
>> Blessings on your efforts. We really need more of that intermediate level 
>> stuff. Feel free to grab stuff from my 
>> https://giffmex.org/gifts/documenting.tw.html if it helps. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 5:34:13 PM UTC-6 Soren Bjornstad wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> As the end of the year approaches and I start planning personal goals 
>>> for next year, I thought I'd share an early update on a project I'm really 
>>> excited about and hope will be a boon for the TiddlyWiki community: a 
>>> TiddlyWiki textbook (written in TiddlyWiki, of course).
>>>
>>> Right now we have (mostly) good technical documentation for advanced 
>>> users, a thriving Google group, and plenty of introductions to TiddlyWiki, 
>>> but nothing that bridges the gap by helping new users who are serious about 
>>> learning the ins and outs of TiddlyWiki to build a complete understanding 
>>> of TiddlyWiki concepts. That's what I'm hoping to fix.
>>>
>>> One of the other things I'm excited about is my included prototype of a 
>>> mnemonic 
>>> medium 
>>>  in 
>>> TiddlyWiki built on top of my TiddlyRemember plugin. This allows simple 
>>> prompts to be embedded in the text, then reviewed at regular intervals 
>>> controlled by a spaced-repetition algorithm, either with a simple 
>>> native-TiddlyWiki reviewer or in Anki  via 
>>> TiddlyRemember. With this medium, learning and retaining large amounts of 
>>> new terminology and syntax is much easier.
>>>
>>> [image: Screenshot from 2020-12-30 17-08-30.png]
>>>
>>> I've been working on this off and on for a few months and am hoping that 
>>> within the next month or two, I'll have a solid draft. At that point I 
>>> would like to send this out to a handful of people for an initial, rigorous 
>>> round of private review and feedback. I would like to involve several 
>>> expert users and several beginners (I'd love to see 2-3 in each category). 
>>> Here's what I'd hope to hear from these reviewers:
>>>
>>> Experts:
>>>
>>>- See any outright errors? I'm sure I made a few.
>>>- Did I miss any concepts or features that you use all the time or 
>>>think are essential?
>>>- For the resources at the end: What major resources or plugins 
>>>would be worth including that I don't know about or haven't included?
>>>
>>> Beginners:
>>>
>>>- Did everything I wrote make sense?
>>>- How well did the mnemonic medium work? Were the prompts effective? 
>>>Did you understand how to use it?
>>>- Did your TiddlyWiki skills improve?
>>>- Were the exercises too hard? Too easy? Lacking enough information?
>>>- Roughly how long did it take to work through the book?
>>>
>>> I would be looking for a commitment to read through the whole book, 
>>> ideally do most of the exercises, and offer substantive feedback. The book 
>>> is currently about 70,000 words and includes plenty of exercises, so 
>>> although I have no data on how long it will take to work through the book 
>>> at this point, I can't imagine it would be a one-evening task. 

[tw5] Re: How to uninstall Stroll? It breaks my TW5.1.23 [German/Austrian edition]

[odin...@gmail.com]

Using Tinka is an easy way of making 
plugins in a single file wiki. I think it is what you are looking for David.

Op donderdag 31 december 2020 om 03:26:02 UTC+1 schreef HP:

> Be careful David, I was mislead - it seems out-of-date (2015?) - I came 
> across this link via the new Git Developer Discussion pages. My fault, 
> again.. :-/ I will take a look at this (
> https://wikilabs.github.io/#GettingStarted) after coming back from work 
> (it is 3:25 am here, I need to sleep)..
>
> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 3:16:17 AM UTC+1 David Gifford wrote:
>
>> Hmmm I will look at that. I had not seen that. That sounds simple enough. 
>> Now to have the time to work on it...
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 8:10:22 PM UTC-6 HP wrote:
>>
>>> David, thanks for your blessings! May our Lord bless you and your family 
>>> as well and also a Happy new year to all of you! 
>>>
>>> Btw, I think I found something up-to-date and very usable to create a 
>>> plugin. 
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/dev/#How%20to%20create%20plugins%20in%20the%20browser:HelloThere%20%5B%5BHow%20to%20create%20plugins%20in%20the%20browser%5D%5D%20Introduction
>>>  
>>> - Could you use it? It seems a straight forward tutorial fmpov. If not, I 
>>> need some time but I think when I study it - I could do it.
>>>
>>> What do you think? 
>>> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 2:57:13 AM UTC+1 David Gifford wrote:
>>>
 Thanks for the explanation, HP. Never mind does mean something like 'No 
 problem', but when you use it after a request, it means 'Don't attend to 
 my 
 request, I no longer need you to do it.' So since you requested help with 
 Stroll and then said never mind, it left me confused. Now I get it. 
 Blessings and Happy new year!

 On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 7:51:43 PM UTC-6 HP wrote:

> I am not a native English speaker.. I thought it meant something like 
> "no problem!". I apologize for this if it was not the right tone..
>
> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 2:49:35 AM UTC+1 David Gifford wrote:
>
>> Never mind? Why do you say that?
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 7:47:19 PM UTC-6 HP wrote:
>>
>>> Never mind David! :)
>>> IC XC NIKA 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 2:17:30 AM UTC+1 David Gifford 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi HP

 I will review this in the morning (I am in Mexico City) and will 
 try to update Stroll tomorrow and publish updating instructions.

 I have repeatedly asked for someone to put out Stroll as a plugin, 
 since I don't know how to do that. A couple people said they would, 
 but 
 nothing came of it. But I will address the updating issues tomorrow. 
 Sorry 
 for the hassles!

 On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 5:20:22 PM UTC-6 HP wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I can't neither use the close or delete button for a new tiddler 
> or use the new tiddler drop down menu after installing Stroll. 
>
> It isn't a plugin, so how do I uninstall it? I got a comprehensive 
> list of entries via my advanced search within System for "stroll". i 
> can't 
> decide what of it i can or must remove.
>
> Maybe there is a more generic approach to this kind of problem 
> when no plugins are involved.
>
> Thanks in advance..
>
>

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[tw5] Concatenating contents of multiple fields into one textfield

[odin...@gmail.com]

I am working on a little plugin that allows users to fill in a short 
reflection on the day. There are 3 questions and I am using an edit-text 
widget to provide for an input. The structure is like this:

!! I am grateful for...
<$edit-text> for the answer stored in a temp tiddler field
!! What would make today great?
<$edit-text> for the answer stored in a temp tiddler field 
!! Daily affirmation. I am...
<$edit-text> for the answer stored in a temp tiddler field   

Now I can use a viewtemplate to show this in the tiddler that is gets 
stored into, just like I did with my recipe plugin. But in this case I 
would like to Concatenate the questions and the answers into one text field 
so that users can later edit their journal entry. But I can't figure out 
how to.

I think the answer lies in either a macro or the vars widget (maybe both). 
But I am stuck and I am not understanding the documentation correctly.

So far I have this

\define sixminutejournal(grateful, great, affirmation) 
!!! I am grateful for:

$grateful$

!!! What would make today great?

$great$

!!! Daily affirmation. I am ...

$affirmation$
\end

And then calling the macro with inside the button that creates the tiddler:
text=<>

But this leads to:

!!! I am grateful for:

{{$:/temp/odin/sixminutejournal!!sixminute-grateful}}

!!! What would make today great?

{{$:/temp/odin/sixminutejournal!!sixminute-great}}

!!! Daily affirmation. I am ...

{{$:/temp/odin/sixminutejournal!!sixminute-affirmation}}


How do I get this to fill in the answers and paste it instead?

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[tw5] Re: Task Tracker scripting challenge

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" When the documentation says that you can indeed invoke a string 
containing ActionWidgets, I wonder what the syntax is. " 

I have wondered the same thing before. I would love to see this example in 
the documentation. Because I tried it like this, and I couldn't figure it 
out: " $action-sendmessage $message="tm-notify" 
$param="SampleNotification" " 
 
Op woensdag 30 december 2020 om 16:10:17 UTC+1 schreef sil...@gmail.com:

> Hi Ludwa6,
>
> When the documentation says that you can indeed invoke a string containing 
> ActionWidgets, I wonder what the syntax is.
> Going back to the genesis of evolution in 5.1.20, I found a post by 
> Mohammad that used this with the help of a macro (but if someone can tell 
> us how to do directly, that would be good).
>
> For curiosity, I've added this short macro :
>
> \define undone-actions()
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-notify" $param="SampleNotification"/>
> \end
>
> And on my uncheck filter :
>
> <$list filter="[!has[draft.of]has:field[task]tag[done]sort[created]]">
>
> <$checkbox tag="done" actions=<> > ~~<$link/>~~
>
> 
>
>
> So when I uncheck, I've now the content of SampleNotification tiddler show 
> in the box notification, nice. 
>
> (PS : I don't think you can use tm-remove-tag since according to the doc 
> it's with FieldManglerWidget, not ActionWidgets).
>
> This does not answer the question, but with the use of a field rather than 
> a tag, there is no need to delete it ;)
>
>
> Sylvain
>
> Le mercredi 30 décembre 2020 à 15:32:03 UTC+1, scot a écrit :
>
>> Hello Everyone,
>> Maybe this topic could offer a solution.
>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/XVHRXv5WxgY/m/kMo2a9CDGQAJ
>>
>> Scot
>>
>> On Wednesday, 30 December 2020 at 10:39:00 UTC ludwa6 wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Sylvain; this is interesting:  digging into those CheckboxWidget 
>>> docs, i discovered that this widget has an "actions" attribute that can 
>>> contain an ActionWidget such as "action-sendmessage"... Which could be a 
>>> message like "tm-remove-tag", if i'm reading this right.  Yes?
>>>
>>> So: i've been playing with some script like:
>>>   <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-remove-tag" $param="ToDo"/>
>>> and slight variations on that, embedded in different places within the 
>>> CheckboxWidget code (since i don't know what i'm doing, obviously :-), but 
>>> no joy as of yet. 
>>>
>>> Good thing is, none of my experiments have broken anything; code fails 
>>> gracefully, the interpreter just seems to ignore it, until i finally get 
>>> something right. Someday, maybe!
>>>
>>> /walt
>>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 9:04:18 AM UTC sil...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 (On the other hand here we don't use the Task tag at all).

 Or deal with field to modify statut, like this example : 
 https://tiddlywiki.com/#CheckboxWidget (see Fied mode example).


 Regards,
 Sylvain


 Le mercredi 30 décembre 2020 à 09:56:57 UTC+1, Sylvain Naudin a écrit :

> Hello Ludwa6,
>
> FYI, I think the video source is from the doc 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#TaskManagementExample, and there is an 
> enhanced version here : 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#TaskManagementExample%20(Draggable).
>
> I agree with you, when I use this simple checkbox task manager, I 
> don't want to see the first tag.
> Maybe you can replace it with a field filter (and take opportunities 
> to put some useful information).
>
> <$list filter="[!has[draft.of]has:field[task]!tag[done]sort[created]]">
>
>
> Sylvain
> Le mercredi 30 décembre 2020 à 09:26:51 UTC+1, ludwa6 a écrit :
>
>> Looks like an elegant solution, Tones, that Toggle operator... If 
>> only i was able to run that latest TW version that enables it.  
>> Because of this conflict between TW v5.1.23 and the Stroll plugin (on 
>> which i rely), alas, i am having to stick w/ TW v5.1.22 until it's 
>> resolved.  
>>
>> Fortunately, as explained in a previous thread 
>> ,  
>> Zak has pointed me to a solution -i.e. "tm-remove-tag" - that works... 
>> Except "FieldMangler Widget" that is the message hander requires a 
>> button 
>> to make it work, which makes my current solution slightly less elegant 
>> (as 
>> evidenced by screenshot i've shared in that thread), but it serves my 
>> purposes for now.
>>
>> I do look forward to getting on TW v5.1.23, soon as Stroll plugin is 
>> updated, and will try out that Toggle operator as soon as this comes to 
>> pass.  Thanks for the pointer, Tones!
>>
>> /walt
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 11:16:45 PM UTC TW Tones wrote:
>>
>>> Post script,
>>>
>>> I mean to suggest that a checkbox is not really the way to go here 
>>> since it typically toggles between existence and non existence or two 
>>> values. W

Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Project Name

[odin...@gmail.com]

Thoughts from a non-coding user that has learned some wikitext/html/css 
over the past year to customize his tiddlywiki:

If the goal is to attract a wider audience/more people to use TiddlyWiki, 
namechanging itself won't be enough I think. I agree what is said before on 
the name itself not really being a thing, if the app can do your stuff 
well, people won't notice the name. Also, most todo or notetaking apps have 
their own terminology. Notion calls it pages and their smallest units are 
blocks, While RoamResearch calls it nodes.

If you look at other notetaking/productivity apps, they have a lot of 
information on their website specifically targeted to 'brand new users 
without any knowledge'. They have a lot of onboarding information. 
Sometimes they just spell out the way you could customize and use their 
application for a certain use-case. Users need to be able to see the 
possibilities the application provides meets their demands in a visually 
pleasing and inviting way.

For example, Notion has pages with screenshots 
 of different ways of using it for 
students, teams, startups, personal use etc.
Todoist has templates new users can import 
to start off from.
Obsidian has a big screenshot showcasing  most of the 
key features right of the bat.
There is a gentle guide into TiddlyWiki on the official TiddlyWiki page. 
But I don't think it is visual inviting enough. Also, the examples provided 
are out of date. So I think there is a lot to be gained in this area. (so I 
agree with Mohammed in the third post of this thread) Maybe I'll start 
sharing some of my solutions soon. I wish I was proficient in youtube to be 
making tutorials though.

I think this was highlighted with the rise of Zettelkasten this past year. 
Some people made some prepackaged editions that made TiddlyWiki a 
well-performing Zettelkasten system out of the box. There is still activity 
of users in this forum that are using Stroll, Drift, TiddlyResearch etc.

PS: Also note that 'meme ' has a 
widely different meaning and connotation in internet culture. So I would 
not be in favour of renaming tiddlers into memes.

Op woensdag 30 december 2020 om 17:47:20 UTC+1 schreef Ed Heil:

> Data point from a fairly new (<1y) user.
>
> "Tiddlywiki" and "tiddler" stopped sounding weird to me very quickly.  
> Renaming "because there's something inherently wrong with the name" seems 
> silly to me.
>
> Renaming because of a new baseline codebase/breaking changes?  that makes 
> more sense.  It does make me sad for the existing TW5 codebase with all the 
> incredible work that's gone into the code itself and to plugins (like 
> Tiddlymap!  Tiddlymap is so amazing!  Would it be ported over?  It's the 
> best!).  And worried about stuff being left behind.
>
> In accordance with Jeremy's wishes, I hereby have no opinion whatsoever 
> about what a good new name would be. :)
>
> One thing I would be actually concerned about, is what a new codebase 
> would do in terms of "minimum browser version needed."  It's fun to chase 
> the new JS technology available by default in newer browsers, but it would 
> be a real shame to exclude people with old browsers any more than was 
> necessary.
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 11:17:47 AM UTC-5 Osin wrote:
>
>> My disjointed 2 cents: 
>>
>> The names "TiddlyWiki" and "Tiddler" got a few chuckles from my manager 
>> when I proposed it as a solution for an internal Wiki/Knowledge Base, then 
>> we moved on. It's a funny and unique name, but I don't think it's 
>> necessarily that bad once that initial bump has been passed over. Now I 
>> just say "Wiki". I didn't know Wiki was perceived as outdated. So in that 
>> sense, I agree with whoever gave the example of construction jargon.
>>
>> My first reaction to "xememex" was to re-read it a few times to figure 
>> out how to read it (granted, I barely slept and haven't had coffee yet). It 
>> is easy to type once I figured out where to put the e and the m and the x, 
>> but that's the only benefit to the current name. People pronounce GIF two 
>> ways as well, so maybe the pronunciation aspect of it isn't as bad. How 
>> often would one communicate the name in writing vs speech? "Meme" screams 
>> funny images with text, but that connotation might just be a fad.
>>
>> That being said, reading through the replies, I feel that the renaming 
>> brainstorm is focusing on power-users and developers as the "target 
>> audience". What is being sought exactly with the name change? To make 
>> people in the google group like the name and make things easier for the 
>> devs, or popularize the platform? I think defining this needs to be a 
>> priority before starting to brainstorm names. In that sense, maybe 
>> crowdfunding and paying a branding/communication consultant might be 
>> something to consider? It reminds me of a time when softwa

[tw5] Re: TW minstyle - my new flavour

[odin...@gmail.com]

It looks gorgious! Do you have plans of bundling it all up into a 
plugin/theme ?

Op maandag 21 december 2020 om 19:56:26 UTC+1 schreef sil...@gmail.com:

> Thanks all for your feedback :)
>
> I've just upload this quick screencast (without audio) to show my latest 
> customization : https://vimeo.com/493458342
>
> - add better back to top button
> - add left sidebar option
> - clean more option tabs
> - and many other little things <3
>
> https://github.com/silvyn/tw-minstyle and here to see live : 
> https://silvyn.github.io/tw-minstyle/
>
> Cheers
> Sylvain
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Simpel dictionary

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Have a look at this tiddler from Mohammed's collection of scripts. It is a 
simple dictionary stored in a JSON-tiddler.

https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/#A%20Dictionary%20Project

Op maandag 21 december 2020 om 08:50:59 UTC+1 schreef wolf...@gmail.com:

> Hello, I'm new to tiddlywiki and wondering how to make a simple dictionary 
> .
>
> Also I'm using tiddlywiki for studying languages  and would be happy with 
> a word bank with translations. 
>

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[tw5] Re: Best of 2020 and the Wish-list of 2021

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@Arunn
How is the stability of the command palette plugin? I was really interested 
in the development, but decided not to install it because of the warning 
they wrote. If I recall correctly, Souk described it as a prototype not 
meant for normal use.

Op vrijdag 18 december 2020 om 14:56:21 UTC+1 schreef odin...@gmail.com:

> I got into TiddlyWIki more seriously this year. I've had used it before to 
> manage D&D notes, but back then (a couple of years ago)  I really struggled 
> with making lists using the filter notation.
> This year I am using it for my studynotes and to keep track of everything 
> I want to keep track of. Like recipes and bookmarks and the sorts. My highs 
> of this year would be learning some wikitext to adjust TiddlyWiki to my own 
> liking and even to make a recipe plugin. Also, the people that return 
> frequently to this forum to take part in discussions, and answer questions 
> that noobs like me have. It is great to lurk and read the solutions 
> experienced people come up with. I often read them and try if I can follow 
> the logic in the code in order to learn.
>
> My wish for 2021 would be similar to that of TiddlyTweeter. It would be 
> much more convenient to have a third party plugin library curated by the 
> community. This would make stepping into TiddlyWiki a much easier/welcoming 
> experience. To know what plugins there are, one has to shift through this 
> forum to search. This can be very daunting. The Dynalist has been a great 
> help for me, to serve as a selection of what is out there. Currently, most 
> plugin creators host their plugins on GitHub. Maybe a community curated 
> GitHub repository can store copies of plugins that are then bundled in a 
> library (similar to the current official one). So newcomers to TiddlyWiki 
> can just open the library to pick plugins from. When they need more 
> detailed information, they could always follow a link inside the plugin to 
> the original page.
>
> Op vrijdag 18 december 2020 om 14:22:55 UTC+1 schreef TiddlyTweeter:
>
>> Mohammad wrote:   
>> Josiah normally sends out this post.  
>>
>> Not important. 
>>
>> My excite in this year was DIVERSITY. And several different real actions 
>> to start to diversify CSS and Parsers (especially by PMario) to aid normal 
>> visuals. 
>>
>> FWIW, I tend to really relate to Mark S. solutions because he is a 
>> pragmatist. Gives code you then can work from. His innovations in 2020 have 
>> been a wonderful learning experience.
>>
>> It is getting* obvious that in 2021 *there will be demand to make it 
>> EASIER to  access solutions. Fact is we have many, many solutions but still 
>> totally LACK any decent meta index of them. That I do not like as it 
>> basically means if you do not read here everyday it gets difficult to 
>> located solutions. They are not recorded anywhere schematically.
>>
>> Best wishes
>> TT
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Best of 2020 and the Wish-list of 2021

[odin...@gmail.com]

I got into TiddlyWIki more seriously this year. I've had used it before to 
manage D&D notes, but back then (a couple of years ago)  I really struggled 
with making lists using the filter notation.
This year I am using it for my studynotes and to keep track of everything I 
want to keep track of. Like recipes and bookmarks and the sorts. My highs 
of this year would be learning some wikitext to adjust TiddlyWiki to my own 
liking and even to make a recipe plugin. Also, the people that return 
frequently to this forum to take part in discussions, and answer questions 
that noobs like me have. It is great to lurk and read the solutions 
experienced people come up with. I often read them and try if I can follow 
the logic in the code in order to learn.

My wish for 2021 would be similar to that of TiddlyTweeter. It would be 
much more convenient to have a third party plugin library curated by the 
community. This would make stepping into TiddlyWiki a much easier/welcoming 
experience. To know what plugins there are, one has to shift through this 
forum to search. This can be very daunting. The Dynalist has been a great 
help for me, to serve as a selection of what is out there. Currently, most 
plugin creators host their plugins on GitHub. Maybe a community curated 
GitHub repository can store copies of plugins that are then bundled in a 
library (similar to the current official one). So newcomers to TiddlyWiki 
can just open the library to pick plugins from. When they need more 
detailed information, they could always follow a link inside the plugin to 
the original page.

Op vrijdag 18 december 2020 om 14:22:55 UTC+1 schreef TiddlyTweeter:

> Mohammad wrote:   
> Josiah normally sends out this post.  
>
> Not important. 
>
> My excite in this year was DIVERSITY. And several different real actions 
> to start to diversify CSS and Parsers (especially by PMario) to aid normal 
> visuals. 
>
> FWIW, I tend to really relate to Mark S. solutions because he is a 
> pragmatist. Gives code you then can work from. His innovations in 2020 have 
> been a wonderful learning experience.
>
> It is getting* obvious that in 2021 *there will be demand to make it 
> EASIER to  access solutions. Fact is we have many, many solutions but still 
> totally LACK any decent meta index of them. That I do not like as it 
> basically means if you do not read here everyday it gets difficult to 
> located solutions. They are not recorded anywhere schematically.
>
> Best wishes
> TT
>

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Re: [tw5] [ANN] Notebook theme v1.0.0

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Thank you both for the quick reply!
After activating and switching palettes the links change from italics to 
bold. I'm guessing most of the tiddlers only get made after activation. I 
hadn't realised that before. It works now :)
Thanks!
Op vrijdag 18 december 2020 om 09:31:01 UTC+1 schreef Mohammad:

> Hi Odin,
>  How do you drag and drop the theme? I recommend to use do this from the 
> main page on: https://nicolas.petton.fr/tw/notebook.html#Install
>  Testing on tiddlywiki.com works for me.
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 9:45 AM odin...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Nicolas. 
>>
>> My installation problem persists. When I drag and drop the theme into 
>> another wiki, the contents of the theme are not imported. See screenshot. 
>> Almost the whole list is in italics. Each italic tiddler doesn't exist. I 
>> don't know why or how this is happening, I tried importing some other theme 
>> and plugins as a control test, and it worked fine. So I think it is 
>> something with this theme.
>>
>> Does anyone else has the same problem?
>>
>> [image: notebook.JPG]
>>
>> Op donderdag 17 december 2020 om 16:53:30 UTC+1 schreef Nicolas Petton:
>>
>>> Mohammad Rahmani  writes: 
>>>
>>> > Notebook is among the best plugins/themes. Notebook gives Tiddlywiki a 
>>> > cute, pleasant and very practical face. 
>>>
>>> Thank you for your kind words Mohammad :-) 
>>>
>>> Nico 
>>>
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[tw5] Re: Stylesheet tiddlers: A question of performance

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Commenting on this because I am also curious to know what the differences 
are between 1 and 2 are.
Op donderdag 17 december 2020 om 08:12:51 UTC+1 schreef Mohammad:

> Tiddlywiki is enough flexible to have
>
> 1. stylesheet tiddler of type text/css
> 2. stylesheet tiddler of type text/vnd.tiddlywiki(good for dynamic css)
> 3. stylesheet as inline element using .. html tag
>
> Q1.
> I normally use the first two types. What is the best practice to have a 
> higher performance? Performance here means faster processing and what user 
> sense is to have the fastest response!
>
> Q2.
> If I have to use dynamic styles, do you recommend having a  stylesheet 
> tiddler of type text/vnd.tiddlywiki  with all css properties? OR you 
> recommend to store all static CSS in a  text/css tiddler and ONLY put the 
> dynamic part into another stylesheet tiddler of type text/vnd.tiddlywiki?
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: Projectify 0.6.0

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Nicolas,

I am a fan of your work!

Op donderdag 17 december 2020 om 00:16:51 UTC+1 schreef TW Tones:

> Nicolas,
>
> Love your work. 
>
> One suggestion, now the projects are displayed as cards, perhaps display 
> the description field from a project tiddler inside the card. This allows 
> additional details and Qualifications to be provided to a project. Using 
> text would be sufficient.
>
> Tones
>
> On Thursday, 17 December 2020 at 07:20:30 UTC+11 Nicolas Petton wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I've just released v0.6.0 of my Projectify[1] plugin!
>>
>> Demo and installation instructions are available at
>>
>> https://nicolas.petton.fr/tw/projectify.html
>>
>> There are tons of changes, here's a summary of the most important ones:
>>
>> * Todos can now moved between projects using drag & drop
>> * Todos can now be made into sub-projects by clicking the `Make this into 
>> a sub-project` button
>> * Empty projects or inboxes now show a welcome screen
>> * New checkbox button in the view toolbar of todo tiddlers
>> * New form to add new projects including an input for the project title
>> * The number of todos in a project is now represented with a small pie 
>> chart icon
>> * New card view of active projects in the dashboard
>> * Projects in the dashboard can now be reordered
>> * Projects without active todos are now omitted from the "Next" dashboard 
>> section
>> * New Schedule button in the page controls listings all todos scheduled 
>> today
>> * New list in the Schedule tab of the dashboard listing all item 
>> scheduled to be done after the next 30 days.
>>
>> To submit bug reports or contribute, the project is hosted on GitHub at
>>
>> https://github.com/nicolaspetton/projectify
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Nico
>>
>> [1] Projectify is a plugin for managing projects and todos.
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: New version of the Notebook theme available

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I am running into a problem. I can't seem to import the whole plugin. After 
importing the plugin, the list of tiddlers are showing in italics. Only 
$:/core/ui/PageTemplate/sidebar 
<https://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fui%2FPageTemplate%2Fsidebar> is 
imported, the rest are missing.

How to recreate: Go to tiddlywiki.com and drag and drop the theme into 
TiddlyWiki. I also tried this using TiddlyDesktop.


Op maandag 14 december 2020 om 11:08:35 UTC+1 schreef odin...@gmail.com:

> Hi Nicolas!
>
> Thank you for sharing this theme. Your design is really well done. In 
> order for TiddlyWiki to appeal to a wider audience, it is IMO essential to 
> have a clean design available. It is good to see people are working on 
> those designs!
>
> You wrote that it hasn't reached V1.0 yet. What are some things you want 
> to implement/change for a full release?
>
> Op maandag 14 december 2020 om 10:03:01 UTC+1 schreef Nicolas Petton:
>
>> Mohammad  writes:
>>
>> Hi Mohammad,
>>
>> > Many thanks for your contribution. Notebook is an amazing theme. The 
>> words 
>> > clean and uncluttered theme best describe it.
>> > On mobile and small screen I think the is the only theme makes TW like 
>> an 
>> > app and its lower menu and action on sidebar item selection is very
>> > useful.
>>
>> Thank you, I'm glad you like it! If you find any issue with it, feel
>> free to report it.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Nico
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: New version of the Notebook theme available

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Hi Nicolas!

Thank you for sharing this theme. Your design is really well done. In order 
for TiddlyWiki to appeal to a wider audience, it is IMO essential to have a 
clean design available. It is good to see people are working on those 
designs!

You wrote that it hasn't reached V1.0 yet. What are some things you want to 
implement/change for a full release?

Op maandag 14 december 2020 om 10:03:01 UTC+1 schreef Nicolas Petton:

> Mohammad  writes:
>
> Hi Mohammad,
>
> > Many thanks for your contribution. Notebook is an amazing theme. The 
> words 
> > clean and uncluttered theme best describe it.
> > On mobile and small screen I think the is the only theme makes TW like 
> an 
> > app and its lower menu and action on sidebar item selection is very
> > useful.
>
> Thank you, I'm glad you like it! If you find any issue with it, feel
> free to report it.
>
> Cheers,
> Nico
>

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[tw5] Re: Can BibTeX plugin expand beyond journals?

[odin...@gmail.com]

One issue I had and couldn't find a good solution for back then is that the 
macro to generate the bibliography only uses one style/type. So for 
example: <> Would generate all the reference 
as they were journals. If you hack/made a copy of this macro for books, it 
would generate all the references as books. <>

This is fine if all your references are all the same. So either only 
journal's articles or only books. But I often found that my list of 
references would contain different types of sources. Some books, some 
websites, some articles. And to rewrite the macro so that it would 
recognise the type of reference and adjust it's style was (and is) above my 
skill level back then, so I went for a low-tech solution of writing out the 
correct reference in field and using that to generate the referenceslist.

Op donderdag 10 december 2020 om 09:03:38 UTC+1 schreef Mohammad:

> See idea here:
>
> https://github.com/kookma/Refnotes/discussions/6
>
> This is new Discussion panel in GitHub. It is great! Use it.
>
> On Thursday, December 10, 2020 at 12:46:28 AM UTC+3:30 springer wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I'm just orienting to the BibTeX plugin (as well as refnotes). It's 
>> clearly very powerful! But it seems designed mostly for journal articles (as 
>> odin noted in June 
>> ).
>>
>> While working on the biblio-demo quote-collection project, the BibTeX 
>> citations I import tend to be books. I'm finding that the 
>> viewtemplate/bibtex, as well as <> macros in refnotes, don't 
>> handle key book fields (like bibtex-publisher); they instead highlight 
>> fields (like bibtex-doi) that are not relevant to books.
>>
>> I'm happy to play a role in troubleshooting such work, and of course I 
>> can cobble together some local workarounds for my own use-cases. But I'm 
>> putting the challenge out, here, in case Mohammad (who I think is mostly 
>> behind both BibTeX importer and refnotes?) or others are interested in 
>> getting BibTeX connections supported across wider applications.
>>
>> Best regards to all!
>>
>> -Springer
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Managing Book Quotes

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Hi Springer!

I saw you added something to $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/body to display any 
notes that an except may have. You can also get the same result by 
copy-pasting the bit of code to a new tiddler tagged  $:/tags/ViewTemplate. 
If you add the field list-after with  $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/body as its 
content, it will display it at the end of your tiddlers. This way you don't 
have to modify shadow tiddlers, which makes upgrading TiddlyWiki versions 
easier as you don't have to manually adjust any changes to your changed 
shadow tiddlers. 

Op maandag 30 november 2020 om 22:38:11 UTC+1 schreef springer:

> Here's some tips: https://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/biblio-demo.html
>
> On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 3:49:54 PM UTC-5 springer wrote:
>
>> Manish, I've just added a mock-up of how I would have begun organizing my 
>> quotes, if I had been working natively in TiddlyWiki from the beginning:
>> https://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/ethicsatwes.html#excerpt%20overview
>>
>> At some point, I'd like to convert my teaching projects over so that 
>> excerpts have their own tiddlers in this way; it's the right way to go.
>>
>> For this mockup, I haven't added fancy css or custom ViewTemplate 
>> settings. But the most important thing is data structure, and having 
>> confidence that you're setting up an approach that you can build upon 
>> without regrets. 
>>
>> Last tip: be aware that some tempting field names — especially "title" 
>> "text" and "source" should be *avoided* for holding your bibliographic 
>> metadata, because TW5 is already using those field-names to track aspects 
>> of your tiddlers. For a list of those "already taken" field names, see 
>> here: https://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlerFields
>>
>> -Springer
>> On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 3:28:12 PM UTC-5 springer wrote:
>>
>>> Manish,
>>>
>>> I just replied in the other thread. But I'll recap briefly here, for 
>>> folks coming across this thread: the best approach is probably to have one 
>>> excerpt per tiddler, and put only the quoted passage itself in the body of 
>>> the tiddler. Then use fields as needed for the metadata attached to each 
>>> excerpt, and a tag such as "quote" or "excerpt" if you like. 
>>>
>>> If you use the lovely Shiraz plugin 
>>> , you can then also set up a 
>>> tiddler for the book (or for the author, etc.) that filters exactly those 
>>> tiddlers that have the field values you need, and which displays columns 
>>> for the metadata you care about (caption, page, notes, etc.). One great 
>>> thing about these dynamic tables is that you can see the whole list/table 
>>> of excerpts *and* effortlessly drop-down to see the details of any one 
>>> excerpt as needed.
>>>
>>> Feel free to follow up!
>>>
>>> -Springer
>>> On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 12:34:15 PM UTC-5 manishm...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 Dear all
 I am relatively new to TiddlyWiki with no knowledge of coding. :)
 I have a query on collating the quotes that I take note of. For each 
 book I read, I have separate tiddlers named after the book. While I type 
 out a relevant quote from each book in the respective tiddler, what is the 
 best way to access them all in one place for future reference. I dont find 
 adding a tag of 'Quotes' to each tiddler helpful. This just gives me the 
 list of all the Book Tiddlers...

 Thank you all in advance. 
 Regards
 Manish

>>>

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[tw5] Re: TW-Shiraz plugin 2.1.2: Stable release

[odin...@gmail.com]

Regarding your last question:

You can edit the CSS of the footer in this tiddler:  
$:/plugins/kookma/shiraz/styles/sticky-footer 
Edit the line `background-color: #efefef; `  for a different color 
background.
Add a line: color: <>; to change the text colors.

Op dinsdag 24 november 2020 om 21:33:47 UTC+1 schreef 
david.j.winfi...@gmail.com:

> Mohammad,
>
> I'm just trying this plugin for the first time, and I think it's awesome. 
> I'm just getting back into TW after a long absence and not much experience 
> with TW5. It adds a lot of functionality. 
>
> I was able to manually copy in the plugin. But I couldn't find it using 
> the installation instructions for the Kookma Plugin Library. I see 11 
> plugins listed for the Kookma Library but none of them seem to be Shiraz.
>
> After copying over the plugin and the examples. The only issue I'm having 
> is the sticky footer doesn't work with the color pallet that I am using. 
> I'm using the Tiddlywiki built in theme of "Gruvbox Dark - Retro groove 
> color theme", the text in the sticky footer is too light to see. What's the 
> easiest way to change this text color?
>
> Thanks,
> David
>
> On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 2:44:25 PM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> *Announcement:Shiraz plugin*
>> *Date: Nov 13th, 2020*
>> *Release: 2.1.2*
>> *Status: Stable*
>>
>>
>> Shiraz is now a mature and quite powerful plugin and it can be used as a 
>> useful addition to Tiddlywiki empty edition.
>>
>> This *stable release* is a bug fix release and distributing under Kookma 
>> Plugin Library.
>>
>>
>> Code and demo
>>
>>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>
>>
>>
>> Star it if you like it and send your feedback!
>> Documentation proof reading for English is welcome!
>>
>>
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Help configuring Timimi and autosave

[odin...@gmail.com]

Also, something to consider: If you have the same file open on both your 
computer and smartphone. It won't sync well. Because when you save your 
tiddlywiki, it replaces the old file (I think). So if you edit something on 
your phone, and your tiddlywiki is still open on your computer, make sure 
to reload to catch the edit you made from your phone. This goes both ways.
Op zondag 22 november 2020 om 15:38:31 UTC+1 schreef jero...@gmail.com:

> Hi IvanPsy
>
> ( Bear with my english, too :-) )  
>
> Timimi user here.
>
> Two things (same things odin...@gmail.com already mentioned before):
>
> 1.
> Mi configuration is different from yours, but in my case, I did the same 
> thing that  odin...@gmail.com  suggested to you under number "1)" , and 
> that solved the confusion: 
>
> On the TIMIMI app on my PC, I did set a separate folder where all backups 
> are saved.
> That means: my wikis are scattered in different folders all over my PC, 
> but all backups are now saved in ONE separate folder.
>  I never open that separate folder unless something went wrong with a wiki 
> and I need to access a backup.
> So when I want to use a wiki, I go to the folder where my wiki resides 
> (NOT the backups folder). There is only one wiki file, so I always use this 
> file and there is no confusion.
>
> 2.
> Regarding backups, I think it is important to follow the advise 
> odin...@gmail.com suggested to you under number "2)": 
> Do set a backup strategie in order to limit the number of backup files 
> that are saved!
>  If you don´t set a limiiting backup strategie, your backups folder will 
> be populated with too many backups, which can easily eat up all your 
> storage capacity. 
> For example, I have set TIMIMI to keep only the last five backups of every 
> wiki.
> (From TIMIMI's list of backup strategies, I did not choose "Tower of 
> Hanoi", but the one that was described as being "similar to Tower of 
> Hanoi".)
>
> On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 6:46:00 PM UTC+9 IvanPsy wrote:
>
>> Thank you for your kind reply.
>> I understand the importance of a backup, so I'll follow your suggestion 
>> about having a separate folder for it.
>>
>> But let me explain my scenario:
>> - I'm on Mac and edit my Tiddly, then I save the changes
>> - I open up the Tiddly on my iPhone (by using Quine 2), but how do I know 
>> which file to open up in order to go on with my work?
>> Is the main file the Tiddly I have to open up bro go on with my work?
>>
>> My goal is to have the main file always updated to the latest change, so 
>> I don't have to think about which file I have to open when I switch device 
>> or go back to work after a break, and forget about the backups files that 
>> are stored in another folder.
>>
>> Don't know if it makes sense. I explain the best as possible since 
>> English is not my native language :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Il giorno domenica 22 novembre 2020 alle 06:23:10 UTC+1 odin...@gmail.com 
>> ha scritto:
>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> You should want to have backups. If anything goes wrong, you'll have a 
>>> backup to revert to. I have used backups in the past, when I was messing 
>>> around with plugins or with edits on core tiddlers.
>>> Follow the instruction on this page: 
>>> https://ibnishak.github.io/Timimi/#Backing%20up%20using%20timimi
>>>
>>> 1) It is possible to set a folder where the backups get saved to, so you 
>>> separate them from your main wiki. This will help solve the confusion with 
>>> finding the latest save.
>>> 2) It is possible to set different saving backup strategies, so you 
>>> don't have a new file for every save you make.
>>>
>>> Op zondag 22 november 2020 om 00:10:53 UTC+1 schreef IvanPsy:
>>>
>>>> Thanks to this community I installed Timimi on Firefox and made it work.
>>>>
>>>> Now, when I save the Tiddly Wiki, I find many backups of the same 
>>>> Tiddly.
>>>> But I want just one save as I find all of this confusing.
>>>>
>>>> So my need is:
>>>> When I save my Tiddly no copies are saved.
>>>> My Tidly is always saved on the same file, so I find only one file in 
>>>> the folder (I open Tiddly on iPhone, iPad and Mac, so having several 
>>>> backups confuse me since I can't remember which one was the last one).
>>>>
>>>> I checked the settings in Timimi, but I wasn't able to understand how 
>>>> to configure properly.
>>>>
>>>> Any tips?
>>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Help configuring Timimi and autosave

[odin...@gmail.com]

Hi!

You should want to have backups. If anything goes wrong, you'll have a 
backup to revert to. I have used backups in the past, when I was messing 
around with plugins or with edits on core tiddlers.
Follow the instruction on this 
page: https://ibnishak.github.io/Timimi/#Backing%20up%20using%20timimi

1) It is possible to set a folder where the backups get saved to, so you 
separate them from your main wiki. This will help solve the confusion with 
finding the latest save.
2) It is possible to set different saving backup strategies, so you don't 
have a new file for every save you make.

Op zondag 22 november 2020 om 00:10:53 UTC+1 schreef IvanPsy:

> Thanks to this community I installed Timimi on Firefox and made it work.
>
> Now, when I save the Tiddly Wiki, I find many backups of the same Tiddly.
> But I want just one save as I find all of this confusing.
>
> So my need is:
> When I save my Tiddly no copies are saved.
> My Tidly is always saved on the same file, so I find only one file in the 
> folder (I open Tiddly on iPhone, iPad and Mac, so having several backups 
> confuse me since I can't remember which one was the last one).
>
> I checked the settings in Timimi, but I wasn't able to understand how to 
> configure properly.
>
> Any tips?
>

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[tw5] Re: Day/night theme in Tiddlywiki

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Do you mean this one?

http://j.d.mono.tiddlyspot.com/

It also has a darkmode toggle switch. It switches between two palettes

Op zaterdag 21 november 2020 om 19:32:14 UTC+1 schreef BurningTreeC:

> A while ago someone posted a beautiful MacOs - styled palette. Does 
> anybody know where it is to find?
>
> Mohammad schrieb am Samstag, 21. November 2020 um 15:00:26 UTC+1:
>
>> There is ongoing discussion on adding automatic/manual switching 
>> day/night theme on GitHub. Thanks to BurningTreeC.
>>
>> Please give a try and send your feedbacks.
>>
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/5085
>>
>> There is demo there for testing purpose.
>>
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/files/5577516/matchMediaDemo.zip
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
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[tw5] Re: WikiWords vs Double Brackets

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Hi!

I used double brackets from the start. I use TiddlyWiki mainly for 
note-keeping and so my titles tend to be questions or statements. I also 
often use the [[This statement is a long title|statement]] syntax often to 
integrate links in running sentences. 

I think the main benefit I could see for WikiWords, is that there is an 
option that automatically makes links from them. But that could also be an 
annoyance when it creates unwanted links.

Op donderdag 19 november 2020 om 17:26:25 UTC+1 schreef Charlie Veniot:

> G'day Ed and all,
>
> I've been chewing on it a bit, trying to put on a WikiWords advocate hat 
> (which isn't fitting this cranium all that well...)
>
> "Wiki" means, from many things I've read, "quick" in Hawaiian.  (It would 
> be pretty cool to get some fun context/history/examples about the word from 
> a Hawaiian!)
>
> From my perspective, the only advantage of WikiWords is to shave off time 
> entering the double brackets and spaces between words.  So all about 
> squeezing max efficiency (and reducing typing-induced tendinitis o' the 
> finger knuckles.)  Try as I might, I just can't see any other benefit.
>
> Maybe, aside from speed for users, it was/is also a quick and easy way to 
> implement page linking in wikis?  (It would be pretty cool to have some 
> wiki historians chime in!) 
>
> On Wednesday, November 18, 2020 at 3:05:34 PM UTC-4 Ed Heil wrote:
>
>> As a relatively new tiddlywiki user, I'm always interested in the 
>> opinions of people who have been TiddlyWiki'ing for a long time, and this 
>> topic came to mind.
>>
>> When I first started using TW (earlier this year), I tended to use 
>> WikiWords for titles.  I've since gone almost entirely to double brackets 
>> (meaning titles may be single words or may have spaces in them).  When you 
>> start using titles as tags, and use things like Table-Of-Contents plugins, 
>> it seems like an obvious move to remove the "multiple words, no spaces" 
>> restriction from titles.
>>
>> I'm curious though if any experienced tiddlywikists still use WikiWords, 
>> and if so what they find valuable about them.
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: My first plugin - Recipes plugin

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@TW Tones. Thanks for the tips and beginnings of the edit forms. I managed 
to figure out a way to edit recipes. I also added a toggle to hide the two 
fields.

@David Gifford. Thanks! That is really great. It is an honour being on the 
list I have used so much in the past :) I Changed the host to github. Can 
you adjust the link to https://odinjorna.github.io/recipe-plugin/ ?

Made some updates. The current features are:

   - An input form to add recipes
   - A nice presentation of the recipe
   - The box around the ingrediënts list changes depending on the theme. It 
   takes on the colour of the page-background. Try this out by changing the 
   palette of this wiki.
   - By default, each recipe gets tagged 'Recipe'. This can be changed in 
   the config tab.
   - A search function to search based on recipe title, author, portions, 
   kitchen and source.
   - A config tab to change the default tagging and hide the 
   recipe-instruction and/or recipe-ingredient fields
   - A UI to edit recipes.

 You can try it out, or download it from:  
https://odinjorna.github.io/recipe-plugin/   

Op maandag 16 november 2020 om 03:16:54 UTC+1 schreef David Gifford:

> Added to the toolmap! (https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM) 
> under Home and Lifestyle. Great job.
>
> On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 12:09:14 PM UTC-6 odin...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello all!
>>
>> This plugin is a plugin that adds a way to input, store and display 
>> recipes in your Tiddlywiki. All the information of the recipe is stored in 
>> user-fields, so the template is highly customizable without the need to 
>> change every recipe.
>> Features
>>
>>- A input form to add recipes
>>- A nice presentation of the recipe
>>- The box around the ingrediënts list changes depending on the theme. 
>>It takes on the colour of the page-background.
>>- By default, each recipe gets tagged 'Recipe'.
>>
>> You can find it on http://odinjorna.nl/recipes.html
>>
>> This is the first time I packaged and have published a plugin. It is a 
>> very simple one, but I do use it in my own tiddlywiki. I am mainly sharing 
>> it with this forum to look for feedback. I want to learn more about 
>> wikitext and how to make stuff. What would be some things to add that 
>> aren't too challenging?
>>
>> Looking foward to see what you folks think.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Which tiddler houses the Top Toolbar in the empty.html available for download on Tiddlywiki.com?

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Go to https://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftiddlywiki%2Fmenubar

It is a plugin. So you can find it on the tiddlywiki webside under the 
'more' tab, 'plugins' and then 'menu bar'

Just drag and drop into your own wiki if you'd like it.

Op zondag 15 november 2020 om 12:32:50 UTC+1 schreef Sapphireslinger:

> Very curious. Thanks.
>

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[tw5] Re: My first plugin - Recipes plugin

[odin...@gmail.com]

Thanks for the encouraging words, everyone!

@David
That is a mistake by me. I forgot to put in some * and enters. Should be 
fixed now. I think it isn't really showable in the fields, so I guess I 
have to be diligent when entering recipes, because there isn't a way to 
edit recipes atm. Because when editing the fields, the formatting gets lost.

@TW-Tones
Thank you for the great feedback! It is funny I didn't think of using the 
view template based on tags trick for the template. I have used it before, 
just didn't think of it. I added it to the plugin. The thing about hiding 
is a great tip, but I think for now I want to have it showing, because it 
makes it easier to debug atm. What do you mean with reusing the template to 
edit? To edit current recipes, or to edit the template? If it is the former 
I am very interested!

I also added a search. You are now able to filter recipes based on title, 
author, ingredients, portions size and source.  I am low key proud that I 
managed to figure this one out myself:) The updated plugin is on the same 
URL:   http://odinjorna.nl/recipes.html
Op zondag 15 november 2020 om 04:06:20 UTC+1 schreef davidn...@gmail.com:

> Recipe formatting looks fantastic. I did notice that in the ingredients 
> list some of the list items are merged together instead of displaying as 
> separate list items (see attached image). I had a quick look at the 
> *recipe-ingredients* field value but could not see anything about the 
> problem ingredients that stood out as different.
>
> --
> Regards,
> David.
> On Sunday, 15 November 2020 at 08:25:46 UTC+9:30 clutterstack wrote:
>
>> This is a very nice plugin. I am now wishing I were not too lazy to 
>> prepare a dahl like that.
>>
>> On Saturday, November 14, 2020 at 12:13:47 AM UTC-5 TW Tones wrote:
>>
>>> Odin,
>>>
>>> Thanks for sharing into the community. In the attached tiddler you can 
>>> see how I use a view template, this allows you recipes text field to be 
>>> empty as the view template transcludes the recipe, template on tiddlers 
>>> tagged recipe. 
>>>
>>> This leaves the text field free for other notes, and displays then at 
>>> the bottom below you recipe.
>>>
>>> I also noticed that a number of fields storing text details are text 
>>> blocks, stored in regular fields. This means if edited in edit mode they 
>>> may loose all their new line characters. Consider hiding such fields from 
>>> edit mode. Do do this create a tiddler an include it in your plugin in the 
>>> following name;
>>>
>>>1. $:/config/EditTemplateFields/Visibility/*fieldname *
>>>
>>>
>>>- and place the value hide (or show) in the text field.
>>>
>>> for example
>>>
>>>- $:/config/EditTemplateFields/Visibility/recipe-instructions  
>>>   - and place the value hide (or show) in the text field.
>>>
>>>
>>> And it will not longer appear in the edit view
>>>
>>> If you are interested then we can look at ways to reuse 
>>> $:/plugins/Odin/Recipe/RecipeTemplate on existing recipes to edit them.
>>>
>>> Good work and once again, thanks for sharing with the community.
>>> Tones
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 14 November 2020 at 05:09:14 UTC+11 odin...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello all!
>>>>
>>>> This plugin is a plugin that adds a way to input, store and display 
>>>> recipes in your Tiddlywiki. All the information of the recipe is stored in 
>>>> user-fields, so the template is highly customizable without the need to 
>>>> change every recipe.
>>>> Features
>>>>
>>>>- A input form to add recipes
>>>>- A nice presentation of the recipe
>>>>- The box around the ingrediënts list changes depending on the 
>>>>theme. It takes on the colour of the page-background.
>>>>- By default, each recipe gets tagged 'Recipe'.
>>>>
>>>> You can find it on http://odinjorna.nl/recipes.html
>>>>
>>>> This is the first time I packaged and have published a plugin. It is a 
>>>> very simple one, but I do use it in my own tiddlywiki. I am mainly sharing 
>>>> it with this forum to look for feedback. I want to learn more about 
>>>> wikitext and how to make stuff. What would be some things to add that 
>>>> aren't too challenging?
>>>>
>>>> Looking foward to see what you folks think.
>>>>
>>>

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[tw5] My first plugin - Recipes plugin

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Hello all!

This plugin is a plugin that adds a way to input, store and display recipes 
in your Tiddlywiki. All the information of the recipe is stored in 
user-fields, so the template is highly customizable without the need to 
change every recipe.
Features
   
   - A input form to add recipes
   - A nice presentation of the recipe
   - The box around the ingrediënts list changes depending on the theme. It 
   takes on the colour of the page-background.
   - By default, each recipe gets tagged 'Recipe'.

You can find it on http://odinjorna.nl/recipes.html

This is the first time I packaged and have published a plugin. It is a very 
simple one, but I do use it in my own tiddlywiki. I am mainly sharing it 
with this forum to look for feedback. I want to learn more about wikitext 
and how to make stuff. What would be some things to add that aren't too 
challenging?

Looking foward to see what you folks think.

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

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Did you end up with a way to disable the hover mode? I am trying to find it 
within the code, but I can't seem to find it.

Op maandag 27 augustus 2018 om 12:57:07 UTC+2 schreef JD:

> Hi Mohammad, 
>
> In a future version I'll add an option to disable the hover mode and have 
> it simply close and open the sidebar... I don't have much free time as of 
> now and can't commit. Thanks for the idea!
>
> -jd
>
>
> On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 4:14:50 AM UTC+9, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Jed!
>>  Great theme! I like the right bar and the design of cards like tools, 
>> search and create and ...
>>
>> Add the small description by Eric in above email as we expect when click 
>> on the button sidebar is closed
>> but at the same time we need to move mouse away from the sidebar to see 
>> the effects.
>> I suggest it is better  by clicking the button it closes the sidebar!
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 5:06:03 PM UTC+4:30, JD wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello everyone, theming-obsessed JD here,
>>>
>>> This might be against the grain of current UI ideas and conversations, 
>>> but lately I've been nostalgic about a webapp-y kind of design... So I made 
>>> a theme out of it, for other folks who might be into this sort of style. I 
>>> don't expect it would be used much, I'm just sharing for archiving 
>>> reasons... 
>>>
>>> Link here: http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/ 
>>>
>>> Thanks for the inspiring conversations, everyone. I love back-reading ☺️
>>>
>>> Perpetual lurker, 
>>> JD
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Pasting a field of one tiddler into a specific place of the text field of another tiddler?

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TW tones,

Using the  <$transclude tiddler=$:/temp/Recepten/NieuwRecept 
field=recept-quote mode=block /> worked keeping the formatting that is 
entered into the textbox. This was the last piece I needed to make it work.

Thanks for the help!
Op vrijdag 6 november 2020 om 23:33:43 UTC+1 schreef TW Tones:

> odin,
>
> What you are doing below is not paste anything, you are transcluding. As 
> soon as the temp tiddler/fields change it will be reflected .
>
>
>- Consider using the transclude widget <$transclude 
>tiddler=$:/temp/Recepten/NieuwRecept field=recept-quote mode=block /> the 
>block should render the content correctly
>- However this does not save the values 
>   - Try a New tiddler button with entries such as 
>   recept-quote={{$:/temp/Recepten/NieuwRecept!!recept-quote}} as the 
>   parameters, so the temp values will be used to create the new tiddler.
>   - Then simply use {{!!recept-quote}} to display the content of that 
>   field on the current tiddler. This can be placed in a tiddler tagged 
>   viewTemplate $:/tags/ViewTemplate
>
>
> Regards
> Tones
>
> On Friday, 6 November 2020 22:43:43 UTC+11, odin...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> I am struggling with making a UI to enter recipes. I am using $edit-text 
>> to make an input box. The inputs are stored into fields of temporary 
>> tiddlers. Now I want to paste the inputs into this code below in order to 
>> make the recipe easy to read.
>> 
>> 
>>
>> {{$:/temp/Recepten/NieuwRecept!!recept-quote}}
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> {{$:/temp/Recepten/NieuwRecept!!recept-ingredienten}}
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> {{$:/temp/Recepten/NieuwRecept!!recept-instructies}}
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> {{||Onderkant recept}} 
>> 
>>
>> (the *onderkant recept* is a tiddler that shows the portion amount and 
>> other metadata that is stored into fields.)
>> I know I can use $setfield inside a $button to set fields, I am using 
>> that one for the quote in the recipe, but also the portion size etc. The 
>> thing is, when I make a list in the input box like this:
>> *potato
>> *olive
>> *onion
>> the formatting is lost when it is placed into a field. It would then show 
>> up as *potato*olive*onion inline.
>>
>> Another way I tried is to set the entire code above as a text field, but 
>> then the transclusion of the temporary tiddler doesn't happen. While the 
>> CSS is applied, it gets applied to 
>> {{$:/temp/Recepten/NieuwRecept!!recept-ingredienten}}, and not to the list
>> *potato
>> *olive
>> *onion 
>>
>> What are some ways of pasting stuff from one tiddler into a specific part 
>> of another tiddler? 
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: [Tiddly Research] Public release

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@pedro, 

have a look at Mohammad's Tiddler Commander plugin. I think it was made 
specifically for such large batch operations such replacing a large amount 
of tags.

https://github.com/kookma/TW-Commander

Op vrijdag 6 november 2020 om 14:39:57 UTC+1 schreef pdro...@gmail.com:

> Hi,
>
> Kebi, thank you very much for your contribution. Your project fits 
> perfectly well for my research annotations and I'm looking forward to port 
> my current notes to a tw powered by TiddlyResearch. Looks like it will be 
> not that hard. I just need to figure out how to do some batch modifications 
> (as replacing "Journal" tags by ".daily-tiddler") to my tiddles so they can 
> better fit TiddlyResearch default tags and organization. By the way, do you 
> have any tips on that sense?
>
> Moreover, can I add new sidebar tabs? For instance, a tab capable of 
> indexing all tiddlers tagged as ".potato"?
>
> --
> Pedro Alves
>
>
> *PhD candidate in Computer Science*
>
> *Institute of Computing - University of Campinas*
>
>
> Em qui., 5 de nov. de 2020 às 22:46, clutterstack  
> escreveu:
>
>> I just found this. Very nice edition.
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 8:20:42 AM UTC-4 kebi wrote:
>>
>>> *v.1.0.3 tiddlyresearch-references plugin update*
>>>
>>> https://github.com/kebifurai/TiddlyResearch/releases/tag/v1.0.3ref
>>>
>>> With this version you can customize your references settings directly 
>>> from the tiddlyresearch-references/config tab.
>>>
>>> Now you can:
>>>
>>>- enable/disable different filters
>>>- enable/disable filters for single nodes
>>>- change the background and text color of the reference buttons
>>>
>>> To install this new version just drag and drop the .json file inside 
>>> your wiki.
>>>
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[tw5] Pasting a field of one tiddler into a specific place of the text field of another tiddler?

[odin...@gmail.com]

I am struggling with making a UI to enter recipes. I am using $edit-text to 
make an input box. The inputs are stored into fields of temporary tiddlers. 
Now I want to paste the inputs into this code below in order to make the 
recipe easy to read.



{{$:/temp/Recepten/NieuwRecept!!recept-quote}}




{{$:/temp/Recepten/NieuwRecept!!recept-ingredienten}}




{{$:/temp/Recepten/NieuwRecept!!recept-instructies}}




{{||Onderkant recept}} 


(the *onderkant recept* is a tiddler that shows the portion amount and 
other metadata that is stored into fields.)
I know I can use $setfield inside a $button to set fields, I am using that 
one for the quote in the recipe, but also the portion size etc. The thing 
is, when I make a list in the input box like this:
*potato
*olive
*onion
the formatting is lost when it is placed into a field. It would then show 
up as *potato*olive*onion inline.

Another way I tried is to set the entire code above as a text field, but 
then the transclusion of the temporary tiddler doesn't happen. While the 
CSS is applied, it gets applied to 
{{$:/temp/Recepten/NieuwRecept!!recept-ingredienten}}, and not to the list
*potato
*olive
*onion 

What are some ways of pasting stuff from one tiddler into a specific part 
of another tiddler? 

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki Empty: The size empty.html

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Pardon my ignorance. But what are the benefits of a smaller empty TW5? It 
seemed to be implied in this thread that this is the case.

Op woensdag 4 november 2020 om 16:00:09 UTC+1 schreef Mohammad:

> Hi David,
>  I assume other language shall be installed on demand!
> I have downloaded the latest empty.html from 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/
>
> *These are some facts*
>
> $:/core
> has 2047 tiddlers and occupies around *1781 kb*
>
> Listing all tiddlers with language word in their title using advanced 
> search [all[shadows]prefix[$:/]search:title[language]]   results in 
> 965 tiddlers and they are *115 kb* (I am not sure how part of these 
> tiddlers can be distributed separately as language pack)
>
> There is two themes distributed with empty.html
> 1. Vanilla: *73.5 kb*
> 2. Snowwhite: *3 kb* 
>
> There are 16 palettes in $:/core which occupies *66 kb*
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
> On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 5:00:17 PM UTC+3:30 David Gifford wrote:
>
>> One thing that takes up space is the set of language tiddlers for 
>> translating to other languages. English-speakers don't need those, usually. 
>> What if those could be a plugin? Or else an English-only version stripped 
>> of those tiddlers? Feels arrogant and colonial even mentioning it. I only 
>> mention it as one area where TiddlyWiki could be at least a little lighter.
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 3, 2020 at 1:00:21 AM UTC-6 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> Tiddlywiki is rapidly improving and you can see great features in the 
>>> recent releases. 
>>> From 2.1.17+ amazing features have been added to Tiddlywiki! One 
>>> question is about the size of empty.html (the virgin Tiddlywiki). See the 
>>> below table
>>>
>>> Release   Size (kb)
>>> 5.1.12   1820
>>> 5.1.15   2025
>>> 5.1.17   2033
>>> 5.1.19   2153
>>> 5.1.21   2235
>>> 5.1.22   2197
>>> 5.1.12   2282
>>>
>>> While I love the new features, but, how big a virgin Tiddlywiki  can be? 
>>> Assuming many users work with single file mode and using different 
>>> Tiddlywiki for different purposes, I think we should set a maximum size, 
>>> before going to have bigger empty.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Suggestions
>>> *A. Use official plugins*
>>> 1. Keep the core as light as possible, go down to 1MB size (strip 
>>> everything extra)
>>> 2. Put extra features in official plugins
>>>
>>> *B. Start a new generation *
>>> 1.Release TW 5.2 with minimum size core (include only essential part)
>>> 2. Leave all backward compatibility to Tiddlywiki 5.1.xx
>>> 3. Stop developing 5.1.xx and only release bug fixes
>>>
>>> If Jeremy can go for a new generation of Tiddlywiki, I may also suggest
>>> 1. Sweep the core from all duplicated codes and those retained backward 
>>> compatibility and leave them for 5.1.xx
>>> 2. Rethink about filters and implement using the more versatile 
>>> approach, like those are going on in GitHub (e.g. Saq proposal for multi 
>>> input filters)
>>> 3. Use flexible switchable page layout
>>> 4. Think for a cleaner scripting (remove all duplication, improved 
>>> grammar, ... there is a lot of good discussions in the forum and GitHub)
>>> 5. Think of a new name (re-branding)
>>> 6. ...
>>>
>>> I am sure people can suggest more here
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>> TW-Scripts  codes, macros, and 
>>> solutions in Tiddlywiki
>>> TW-Commander  bulk operations 
>>> on tiddlers
>>> TW-Trashbin  a Tiddlywiki 
>>> trashbin tool
>>> TW-Favorites  a favorites and 
>>> bookmarking tool
>>> TW-Todolist  organize, 
>>> prioritize, and plan your work
>>>
>>> https://github.com/kookma
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Dropdown Arrow

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You could use the display on demand feature from the Shiraz plugin.

https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Display%20on%20Demand

Op dinsdag 20 oktober 2020 om 22:22:12 UTC+2 schreef ethan.w...@gmail.com:

> I wish to emulate the drop-down arrow in the table of content for my own 
> use, but I'm having trouble breaking down the table of contents code. Can 
> anyone help me break it down? 
>
> BTW: My use case is having a title with text that I can open and close 
> under it So it takes up less of my screen.
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