Re: [tw] Changing default (home) page

[James Mars]

Hi,

Ideally yes.. and in an ideal world, people should not assume that other 
people have not read release notes. :)
Did you mean to say "all" or "none" in your sentence "currently  of the 
existing". The reasons am asking, is that it seems that my use of the 
plugin is not working, so I wanted to know if it had to do with the upgrade 
or a coding error on my part. Also, the plugin still uses the tw prefix.. 
does that make a difference?

On Thursday, 4 September 2014 07:15:42 UTC+10, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:
>
> People should read release notes. Currently any of the existing plugins 
> developed by the community works with 5.0.16. And it will take a long time 
> until all of them are adapted.

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Re: [tw] Changing default (home) page

[Danielo Rodríguez]

People should read release notes. Currently any of the existing plugins 
developed by the community works with 5.0.16. And it will take a long time 
until all of them are adapted.

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Re: [tw] Changing default (home) page

[James Mars]

Hi Mario,

I am using 5.0.16. Thanks for the tip.

Does anyone know if Matabele's Maketid plugin is fully compatible with 
5.0.16?


On Wednesday, 3 September 2014 18:49:43 UTC+10, PMario wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, September 3, 2014 5:29:55 AM UTC+2, James Mars wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for your help Andreas.. I found the problem.. Bookmark to access 
>> tiddlywiki had GettingStarted in its url.. oops :)
>>
>
> Hi James,
> Which TW version do you use?
>
> ... There has been a version, that automatically update the browser URL 
> bar with the open story. 
> If you bookmark the story and use it to open your TW, it will ignore the 
> DefaultTiddlers setting. ... as you found out.
> The URL update behaviour can be changed in the *Control Panel: Advanced: 
> Settings tab*
> Starting with 5.0.15 the automatic update was disabled by default, because 
> it caused some confusion.
>
> have fun!
> mario
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Re: [tw] Changing default (home) page

[James Mars]

Hi Eric,

Thanks.. am going to install it.

On Wednesday, 3 September 2014 15:14:36 UTC+10, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, September 2, 2014 8:19:22 PM UTC-7, James Mars wrote:
>>
>> ...firefox is asking where to save a html file whenever I try to save a 
>> change...
>>
>
> This would indicate that you are using Firefox without the TiddlyFox 
> add-on that enables direct file I/O.  Without TiddlyFox, Firefox falls back 
> to using its built-in "download saver", which *mimics* a remote download so 
> that you can still save the updated TiddlyWiki file on your local system. 
>  If you install TiddlyFox (or use the stand-alone TiddlyDesktop 
> application), you can get more robust, *direct* file I/O handling, without 
> having to interact with a dialog box each time you save your changes.
>
> enjoy,
> -e
> Eric Shulman
> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
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Re: [tw] Changing default (home) page

[PMario]

On Wednesday, September 3, 2014 5:29:55 AM UTC+2, James Mars wrote:
>
> Thanks for your help Andreas.. I found the problem.. Bookmark to access 
> tiddlywiki had GettingStarted in its url.. oops :)
>

Hi James,
Which TW version do you use?

... There has been a version, that automatically update the browser URL bar 
with the open story. 
If you bookmark the story and use it to open your TW, it will ignore the 
DefaultTiddlers setting. ... as you found out.
The URL update behaviour can be changed in the *Control Panel: Advanced: 
Settings tab*
Starting with 5.0.15 the automatic update was disabled by default, because 
it caused some confusion.

have fun!
mario

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Re: [tw] Changing default (home) page

[Eric Shulman]

On Tuesday, September 2, 2014 8:19:22 PM UTC-7, James Mars wrote:
>
> ...firefox is asking where to save a html file whenever I try to save a 
> change...
>

This would indicate that you are using Firefox without the TiddlyFox add-on 
that enables direct file I/O.  Without TiddlyFox, Firefox falls back to 
using its built-in "download saver", which *mimics* a remote download so 
that you can still save the updated TiddlyWiki file on your local system. 
 If you install TiddlyFox (or use the stand-alone TiddlyDesktop 
application), you can get more robust, *direct* file I/O handling, without 
having to interact with a dialog box each time you save your changes.

enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios

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Re: [tw] Changing default (home) page

[James Mars]

Thanks for your help Andreas.. I found the problem.. Bookmark to access 
tiddlywiki had GettingStarted in its url.. oops :)

James

On Wednesday, 3 September 2014 13:19:22 UTC+10, James Mars wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I created a new test node.js wiki (initialized then started it). Created a 
> tiddler "Homepage" within the wiki and saved it. Went to the control panel, 
> replaced "GettingStarted" with "Homepage" in the startup list, then went to 
> save it (using the save -red- icon on the right menu), then firefox opens 
> up the saving dialog box asking where I would like to save the html file. I 
> save it, but nothing changes. That firefox is asking where to save a html 
> file whenever I try to save a change via the control panel looks a little 
> strange.. is this the default behaviour?
>
> Hi, Yes it does... I have no problem accessing/displaying it inside the 
>> wiki directly (ie, via the search panel). Its complete name is "Home.tid" 
>> but defined as "Home" in the startup page list. The "GettingStarted" page 
>> is not in the list.. there is only Home there, and Home doesn't open at all 
>> on startup. It seems that the system is not paying any attention to the 
>> file DefaultTiddlers (even when modified via the control panel). Anyway, 
>> maybe I should just start with a fresh copy of tiddlywiki.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, 3 September 2014 11:40:13 UTC+10, Andreas Hahn wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi James, 
>>>
>>> does the Home tiddler exist within the wiki ? And is "Home" its complete 
>>> name ? Also did you remove the GettingStarted tiddler from the list ? 
>>>
>>> /Andreas 
>>>
>>> P.S.: If the tiddler is named Home.tid within the wiki, you would have 
>>> to put "Home.tid" into the list, however there is no point in having the 
>>> .tid extension within the wiki. 
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw] Changing default (home) page

[James Mars]

Hi,

I created a new test node.js wiki (initialized then started it). Created a 
tiddler "Homepage" within the wiki and saved it. Went to the control panel, 
replaced "GettingStarted" with "Homepage" in the startup list, then went to 
save it (using the save -red- icon on the right menu), then firefox opens 
up the saving dialog box asking where I would like to save the html file. I 
save it, but nothing changes. That firefox is asking where to save a html 
file whenever I try to save a change via the control panel looks a little 
strange.. is this the default behaviour?

Hi, Yes it does... I have no problem accessing/displaying it inside the 
> wiki directly (ie, via the search panel). Its complete name is "Home.tid" 
> but defined as "Home" in the startup page list. The "GettingStarted" page 
> is not in the list.. there is only Home there, and Home doesn't open at all 
> on startup. It seems that the system is not paying any attention to the 
> file DefaultTiddlers (even when modified via the control panel). Anyway, 
> maybe I should just start with a fresh copy of tiddlywiki.
>
>
> On Wednesday, 3 September 2014 11:40:13 UTC+10, Andreas Hahn wrote:
>>
>> Hi James, 
>>
>> does the Home tiddler exist within the wiki ? And is "Home" its complete 
>> name ? Also did you remove the GettingStarted tiddler from the list ? 
>>
>> /Andreas 
>>
>> P.S.: If the tiddler is named Home.tid within the wiki, you would have 
>> to put "Home.tid" into the list, however there is no point in having the 
>> .tid extension within the wiki. 
>>
>

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Re: [tw] Changing default (home) page

[James Mars]

My mistake.. I wasn't saving it properly... The single file version (fresh 
copy) works, but my node.js version still does not.

On Wednesday, 3 September 2014 12:50:48 UTC+10, James Mars wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I downloaded a fresh copy of tiddlywiki (the single file version), 
> created/saved the tiddler "Homepage", went to control panel and replaced 
> GettingStarted with Homepage. Made sure the change was saved. Reloaded 
> tiddlywiki, and the GettingStarted page is back, while Homepage is not 
> loaded at started. Also, in control panel, the default setting is back in 
> the startup list.
>
>
> On Wednesday, 3 September 2014 11:58:51 UTC+10, James Mars wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi, Yes it does... I have no problem accessing/displaying it inside the 
>> wiki directly (ie, via the search panel). Its complete name is "Home.tid" 
>> but defined as "Home" in the startup page list. The "GettingStarted" page 
>> is not in the list.. there is only Home there, and Home doesn't open at all 
>> on startup. It seems that the system is not paying any attention to the 
>> file DefaultTiddlers (even when modified via the control panel). Anyway, 
>> maybe I should just start with a fresh copy of tiddlywiki.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, 3 September 2014 11:40:13 UTC+10, Andreas Hahn wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi James, 
>>>
>>> does the Home tiddler exist within the wiki ? And is "Home" its complete 
>>> name ? Also did you remove the GettingStarted tiddler from the list ? 
>>>
>>> /Andreas 
>>>
>>> P.S.: If the tiddler is named Home.tid within the wiki, you would have 
>>> to put "Home.tid" into the list, however there is no point in having the 
>>> .tid extension within the wiki. 
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw] Changing default (home) page

[James Mars]

Hi,
I downloaded a fresh copy of tiddlywiki (the single file version), 
created/saved the tiddler "Homepage", went to control panel and replaced 
GettingStarted with Homepage. Made sure the change was saved. Reloaded 
tiddlywiki, and the GettingStarted page is back, while Homepage is not 
loaded at started. Also, in control panel, the default setting is back in 
the startup list.


On Wednesday, 3 September 2014 11:58:51 UTC+10, James Mars wrote:
>
>
> Hi, Yes it does... I have no problem accessing/displaying it inside the 
> wiki directly (ie, via the search panel). Its complete name is "Home.tid" 
> but defined as "Home" in the startup page list. The "GettingStarted" page 
> is not in the list.. there is only Home there, and Home doesn't open at all 
> on startup. It seems that the system is not paying any attention to the 
> file DefaultTiddlers (even when modified via the control panel). Anyway, 
> maybe I should just start with a fresh copy of tiddlywiki.
>
>
> On Wednesday, 3 September 2014 11:40:13 UTC+10, Andreas Hahn wrote:
>>
>> Hi James, 
>>
>> does the Home tiddler exist within the wiki ? And is "Home" its complete 
>> name ? Also did you remove the GettingStarted tiddler from the list ? 
>>
>> /Andreas 
>>
>> P.S.: If the tiddler is named Home.tid within the wiki, you would have 
>> to put "Home.tid" into the list, however there is no point in having the 
>> .tid extension within the wiki. 
>>
>

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Re: [tw] Changing default (home) page

[James Mars]

Hi, Yes it does... I have no problem accessing/displaying it inside the 
wiki directly (ie, via the search panel). Its complete name is "Home.tid" 
but defined as "Home" in the startup page list. The "GettingStarted" page 
is not in the list.. there is only Home there, and Home doesn't open at all 
on startup. It seems that the system is not paying any attention to the 
file DefaultTiddlers (even when modified via the control panel). Anyway, 
maybe I should just start with a fresh copy of tiddlywiki.


On Wednesday, 3 September 2014 11:40:13 UTC+10, Andreas Hahn wrote:
>
> Hi James, 
>
> does the Home tiddler exist within the wiki ? And is "Home" its complete 
> name ? Also did you remove the GettingStarted tiddler from the list ? 
>
> /Andreas 
>
> P.S.: If the tiddler is named Home.tid within the wiki, you would have 
> to put "Home.tid" into the list, however there is no point in having the 
> .tid extension within the wiki. 
>

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Re: [tw] Changing default (home) page

[Andreas Hahn]

Hi James,

does the Home tiddler exist within the wiki ? And is "Home" its complete 
name ? Also did you remove the GettingStarted tiddler from the list ?


/Andreas

P.S.: If the tiddler is named Home.tid within the wiki, you would have 
to put "Home.tid" into the list, however there is no point in having the 
.tid extension within the wiki.


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Re: [tw] Changing default (home) page

[James Mars]

Hi,

I did it as you suggested, via the control panel, and in "Choose which 
tiddlers are displayed at startup" I have "Home" defined. When I open the 
page Home.tid directly, it shows up fine. But still, I get the default 
"Getting Started" and no Home page.

On Wednesday, 3 September 2014 11:11:50 UTC+10, Andreas Hahn wrote:
>
>  Hi James, 
>
> well you can change those from within the wiki in the ControlPanel under 
> the 'Basics' tab. I would not recommend doing this within the filesystem, 
> since its much nicer to do it in the wiki itself and node.js will 
> automatically save it in the right place.
>
>
> // Ignore the following part, if it confuses you
> {{{
> The right place would be in
> /tiddlywiki-nodejs/YOURWIKINAME/tiddlers/DefaultTiddlers.tid
> since all tiddlers associated with your wiki are stored there, including 
> system/shadow tiddlers which have been overwritten.
>
> Note that for this you do need to have created a wiki with
>
> > node tiddlywiki.js YOURWIKINAME --init server
>
> first. (And then of course run it and modify it)
>
> }}}
>
> /Andreas
>
>
> Am 03.09.2014 02:54, schrieb James Mars:
>  
> Hi Andreas,
>
> You know the first page that comes up with you start up tiddlywiki, well, 
> I am trying to replace that page with a page of my own (based on Alberto 
> Molina's tiddlywiki: http://tw5.scholars.tiddlyspot.com/). See how he has 
> a custom index page ("What is this"). I have the page Home.tid already set 
> up.. I thought all one had to do was to define it in DefaultTiddlers.tid in 
> order to have it show up as the index page.
>
>
> On Wednesday, 3 September 2014 10:46:47 UTC+10, Andreas Hahn wrote: 
>>
>>  Hi James, 
>>
>> what excactly are you trying to do here ?
>> You can change the default tiddlers within the ControlPanel, but I am 
>> guessing thats not what you want to archieve here. Can you elaborate on 
>> what your goal is ?
>>
>> /Andreas
>>
>> Am 03.09.2014 02:35, schrieb James Mars:
>>  
>> Hi,
>> I am using node.js and I would like to replace the default page with a 
>> custom one. I have the following files setup: 
>> tiddlers/ui/$__DefaultTiddlers.tid
>> tiddlers/ui/$__SiteTitle.tid
>> tiddlers/ui/Home.tid
>>
>> but the original page keeps showing up.
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Re: [tw] Changing default (home) page

[Andreas Hahn]

Hi James,

well you can change those from within the wiki in the ControlPanel under 
the 'Basics' tab. I would not recommend doing this within the 
filesystem, since its much nicer to do it in the wiki itself and node.js 
will automatically save it in the right place.



// Ignore the following part, if it confuses you
{{{
The right place would be in
/tiddlywiki-nodejs/YOURWIKINAME/tiddlers/DefaultTiddlers.tid
since all tiddlers associated with your wiki are stored there, including 
system/shadow tiddlers which have been overwritten.


Note that for this you do need to have created a wiki with

> node tiddlywiki.js YOURWIKINAME --init server

first. (And then of course run it and modify it)

}}}

/Andreas


Am 03.09.2014 02:54, schrieb James Mars:

Hi Andreas,

You know the first page that comes up with you start up tiddlywiki, 
well, I am trying to replace that page with a page of my own (based on 
Alberto Molina's tiddlywiki: http://tw5.scholars.tiddlyspot.com/). See 
how he has a custom index page ("What is this"). I have the page 
Home.tid already set up.. I thought all one had to do was to define it 
in DefaultTiddlers.tid in order to have it show up as the index page.



On Wednesday, 3 September 2014 10:46:47 UTC+10, Andreas Hahn wrote:

Hi James,

what excactly are you trying to do here ?
You can change the default tiddlers within the ControlPanel, but I
am guessing thats not what you want to archieve here. Can you
elaborate on what your goal is ?

/Andreas

Am 03.09.2014 02:35, schrieb James Mars:

Hi,
I am using node.js and I would like to replace the default page
with a custom one. I have the following files setup:
tiddlers/ui/$__DefaultTiddlers.tid
tiddlers/ui/$__SiteTitle.tid
tiddlers/ui/Home.tid

but the original page keeps showing up.
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Re: [tw] Changing default (home) page

[James Mars]

Hi Andreas,

You know the first page that comes up with you start up tiddlywiki, well, I 
am trying to replace that page with a page of my own (based on Alberto 
Molina's tiddlywiki: http://tw5.scholars.tiddlyspot.com/). See how he has a 
custom index page ("What is this"). I have the page Home.tid already set 
up.. I thought all one had to do was to define it in DefaultTiddlers.tid in 
order to have it show up as the index page.


On Wednesday, 3 September 2014 10:46:47 UTC+10, Andreas Hahn wrote:
>
>  Hi James, 
>
> what excactly are you trying to do here ?
> You can change the default tiddlers within the ControlPanel, but I am 
> guessing thats not what you want to archieve here. Can you elaborate on 
> what your goal is ?
>
> /Andreas
>
> Am 03.09.2014 02:35, schrieb James Mars:
>  
> Hi,
> I am using node.js and I would like to replace the default page with a 
> custom one. I have the following files setup: 
> tiddlers/ui/$__DefaultTiddlers.tid
> tiddlers/ui/$__SiteTitle.tid
> tiddlers/ui/Home.tid
>
> but the original page keeps showing up.
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Re: [tw] Changing default (home) page

[Andreas Hahn]

Hi James,

what excactly are you trying to do here ?
You can change the default tiddlers within the ControlPanel, but I am 
guessing thats not what you want to archieve here. Can you elaborate on 
what your goal is ?


/Andreas

Am 03.09.2014 02:35, schrieb James Mars:

Hi,
I am using node.js and I would like to replace the default page with a 
custom one. I have the following files setup:

tiddlers/ui/$__DefaultTiddlers.tid
tiddlers/ui/$__SiteTitle.tid
tiddlers/ui/Home.tid

but the original page keeps showing up.
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[tw] Changing default (home) page

[James Mars]

Hi,
I am using node.js and I would like to replace the default page with a 
custom one. I have the following files setup: 
tiddlers/ui/$__DefaultTiddlers.tid
tiddlers/ui/$__SiteTitle.tid
tiddlers/ui/Home.tid

but the original page keeps showing up.

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