[tw] Re: Change/import theme in TiddlySpace: basics?

2010-10-09 Thread Plausible
Hello Mario,

 uups sry: That's hardcoded.

I see you've fixed that one :) Thanks.

 I posted a request allready. At the moment, it would need to change
 the icons svg's. But this is not nice, if you need translation.

Cool. I assume they'll show up once you manage to add them to the
template.

 There is a relatively easy solution if you use a tag, for tiddlers, that 
 should
 be commented.

But I would like a comment box on every tiddler; I just want it to be
'closed' by default. (Well, maybe not on every tiddler -- a tag would
be good to /exclude/ certain tiddlers from having a comment box.)

How about using slider? I made various attempts at squeezing 'slider'
into my line

div class='comments' macro='comments textRows:2 textCols:15'/div

in NeUIemTheme, but I can't figure out the correct syntax.

Ideally, upon opening a tiddler, there would be:
* a closed slider if there are 0 comments
* an open slider if there are =1 comments
* no slider at all if the tiddler is tagged 'noComments'

(Also: yes, with the above syntax, 'textCols' seems to be ignored.)

 **5**

I added this to zzConfig:

// message when creating a new tiddler
config.views.wikified.defaultText = Tiddler content goes here.;
// message when a tiddler doesn't exist
config.views.editor.defaultText = This tiddler does not exist yet.
Click the 'create a copy' icon.;

It works for the new tiddler, but not for the nonexisting tiddler: in
the latter case the same Tiddler content goes here. text is
shown...?

cheers,

~P

PS: Yeah Google Groups doesn't allow me to post 'long' posts either :/

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[tw] Re: Change/import theme in TiddlySpace: basics?

2010-10-08 Thread Plausible
I forgot this:

**5**

In the screenshot you see a tiddler 'testtest' referred to in the
comment, which doesn't exist yet. Clicking on 'testtest' the proto-
tiddler opens with the familiar Double-click to create it line.
However double-clicking does nothing. Instead you have to click on the
'Create a copy' icon. This will confuse my users... can it be fixed?

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[tw] Re: Change/import theme in TiddlySpace: basics?

2010-10-08 Thread Tobias Beer
As for better undestanding (how to change) css... get the Firefox
addon Firebug. It allows you to inspect any page elements and tells
you exactly which style rules are applied (or overwritten).

Cheers, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Change/import theme in TiddlySpace: basics?

2010-10-08 Thread PMario

On Oct 8, 3:01 pm, Plausible verreh...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I forgot this:

 **5**

 In the screenshot you see a tiddler 'testtest' referred to in the
 comment, which doesn't exist yet. Clicking on 'testtest' the proto-
 tiddler opens with the familiar Double-click to create it line.
 However double-clicking does nothing. Instead you have to click on the
 'Create a copy' icon. This will confuse my users... can it be fixed?

you can create a zzConfig tiddler tagged systemConfig sava and
reload

// don't need message when creating a new tiddler
config.views.wikified.defaultText = ;

// don't need message when a tiddler doesn't exist
config.views.editor.defaultText = ;

-m

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[tw] Re: Change/import theme in TiddlySpace: basics?

2010-10-07 Thread Plausible
Thanks Colm and PMario, I checked the links you provided and continued
experimenting, so here's some more feedback / questions:

**1**
I tried to add right-sidebar-toggling to the default theme:
- I copy http://www.tiddlytools.com/#ToggleRightSidebar into my space;
- I add a tiddler called zzTweaks as instructed under 'Configuration'
on the above TTools page;
- I add tiddler ToggleRightSidebar to the SideBarOptions tiddler.
Nothing happens visually; no ► to be seen.
- I include the neui-em theme.
Now the ► does show. Apparently something was packed into neui-em that
I missed myself, but I don't know what.
- I decide to use neui-em's SideBarOptions in any case.
Looking good.
- I remove neui-em from my includes as a test, reverting to default
layout... (while keeping neui-em's SideBarOptions)...
Now the » for the options panel shows as it should, but the ◄ and ►
for the sidebars have vanished again.
?

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[tw] Re: Change/import theme in TiddlySpace: basics?

2010-10-07 Thread PMario
On Oct 7, 5:56 pm, Plausible verreh...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Thanks Colm and PMario, I checked the links you provided and continued
 experimenting, so here's some more feedback / questions:

 **1**
 I tried to add right-sidebar-toggling to the default theme:
 - I copyhttp://www.tiddlytools.com/#ToggleRightSidebarinto my space;
 - I add a tiddler called zzTweaks as instructed under 'Configuration'
 on the above TTools page;
 - I add tiddler ToggleRightSidebar to the SideBarOptions tiddler.
 Nothing happens visually; no ► to be seen.
The tiddlytools Toggle transclusions won't work with tiddlyspace
default theme. The layout is different to a old file tw.

 - I include the neui-em theme.
 Now the ► does show. Apparently something was packed into neui-em that
 I missed myself, but I don't know what.
neui-em has its own ToggleRightSidebarEm and ToggleLeftSidebarEm
tiddlers. They are allready part of the theme.
You can _not_ use those from tiddlytools. Since I have a different
layout approach it wont work.

 - I decide to use neui-em's SideBarOptions in any case.
 Looking good.
 - I remove neui-em from my includes as a test, reverting to default
 layout... (while keeping neui-em's SideBarOptions)...
 Now the » for the options panel shows as it should, but the ◄ and ►
 for the sidebars have vanished again.
Due to security issues, there will be some changes for transcluded
tiddlers aka ToggleXYZ. They are deactivated. May be this is the
reason. Have a look at nui-em's zzConfig tiddler.
config.evaluateMacroParameters = full; will activate the tranclusion
mechanism again. But I think this will be a temporary hack.


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[tw] Re: Change/import theme in TiddlySpace: basics?

2010-10-07 Thread PMario
On Oct 7, 6:02 pm, Verrehaal verreh...@yahoo.com wrote:
 **2**
A shaddow tiddler StyleSheetLayout contains the default settings. But
dont change this tiddler use
StyleSheet tiddler instead. It will overwrite the default. h1 - h6 ...

http://neui-em.tiddlyspace.com/#StyleSheetLayout
http://neui-em.tiddlyspace.com/#StyleSheet

 - The big icons on the right are nice but don't have tooltips: confusing.
SidebarButtons contain the icons.
height width settings. eg:
image tfgCloseAll.svg height:20px width:20px

http://neui-em.tiddlyspace.com/#SidebarButtons

If you want to have the old text style edit
http://neui-em.tiddlyspace.com/#SidebarTools

 - When the 'additional commands' are shown on a tiddler, you get 2 'Close 
 this tiddler' icons, superfluously.
There is no easy way to remove the second one. I like it that way.
Edit ToolbarCommands tiddler to change it. Have a look at
GettingStarted tiddler, how to reach most of the interface content
tiddlers.

http://neui-em.tiddlyspace.com/#ToolbarCommands
http://neui-em.tiddlyspace.com/#GettingStarted

 **3**
Thats right for a default theme, but if you use ThemeSwitcher like I
do there is one tiddler which contains all templates.

http://neui-em.tiddlyspace.com/#NeUIemTheme
==
http://neui-em.tiddlyspace.com/#NeUIemTheme03 only changes some CSS to
get the right sidebar tabs moved to the right.


 This works beautifully with the default theme [Note: the C in 
 macro='Comments' should be uncapitalised] :)
 ... but not at all with neui-em? :(

http://neui-em.tiddlyspace.com/#NeUIemTheme ViewTemplate section.

snip 4

 **5**
include the deleted them does not free up the name, at the moment.
This behaviour is part to be discussed, and solfed in the future.

Deleted contains some info how to erase every tiddler in a space. But
be careful, it does, what it describes :)

have fun!
mario
PS: I made some changes at my zzConfig, to simplify sidebar/main menue
display/hiding at startup.
PPS: Had some trouble to post the message. That's why I needed to
shorten it.

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[tw] Re: Change/import theme in TiddlySpace: basics?

2010-10-06 Thread PMario
Hi,
I think an old TW theme will not work very well, without access to
the new TiddlySpace requirements. eg: switching between public/
private, following, 

In tiddly space including a theme works with the backstage area.
backstage: space ...: includes tab

have a look at: http://themes.tiddlyspace.com/  which contains ready
to use TiddlySpace themes.

===
have you tried copy paste the 5 tiddlers listed Tags:RinTheme to a
tiddlyspace?

-m


On Oct 5, 5:38 pm, Plausible verreh...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hello,

 How to import a TW theme to TiddlySpace?

 I've tried entering e.g.http://tiddlythemes.com/empties/Rin.htmlinto
 ImportTiddlers yet it results in an Unable to import from this
 location due to cross-domain restrictions. error.

 Same for trying to import thehttp://www.TiddlyTools.com/#ImportTiddlersPlugin
 tool.

 I gather from other posts that it /is/ possible to change (import?)
 themes, but can't see the basic steps to be made.

 cheers

 ~P

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[tw] Re: Change/import theme in TiddlySpace: basics?

2010-10-06 Thread Plausible
Let me correct myself on the quickstart_tiddlyblog.html import: after
reloading the space:
- everything looks pretty (rather than glitchy), but:
- mousing over the backstage bar makes a white 'upload' bar appear
right over it (which opens a 'Upload with options' window), rendering
the backstage functions inaccessible;
- commenting on a tiddler using 'add a note' does not work, and saving
seems broken (I guess it's looking for TiddlySpot stuff?);
- the formating buttons (bold, italic, choose colour etc.) don't
appear when editing a tiddler;
- ... maybe other issues, maybe not.

Oh well :/

~P

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