[tw] Re: JQSorterPlugin request(s)
On Aug 1, 9:39 pm, PMario wrote: > some ideas. > What I want to have in the main menu is: < [tag[mainMenu]]>> > So if I tag a tiddler "mainMenu" it is automatically added to the main > menu. I do use this mechanism a lot. The only disadvantage is, that it > returns an alphabetically sorted list. > > I will do the following. Enable a xSort plugin, to sort by custom > field value. eg: order.tagName. Create two macros, that can be > activated as bookmarks. 1) dynamically load the jQueryUI stuff. 2) > xSort generates sortable lists and write the sortorder back to the > tiddlers custom field. If everything is sorted, save and reload and > all the additional stuff is gone. Your tw stays small :) > > possibilities: > <> .. for the menue > <> .. story 1 ... > > regards mario Play with it [1] Tell my what you think. [2] http://apm-plugins.tiddlyspot.com/#XListPluginTest http://apm-plugins.tiddlyspot.com/#StylingPackage -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: JQSorterPlugin request(s)
Hi Tobias and Mario > I think the best approach would be to have a dropable-sortable list to > where you could drag a handle next to a tiddlers title ...and thus add > the tiddler to the list. jQSorter already has a similar - very quick way of adding an already existing tiddler. #Create a tiddler [[tiddler1]] #in jQSorter click the add item button () #Write the title of the newly created tiddler [[tiddler1]] #It's been added to the list. #Move it to the preferred location in the list - and/or copy it to other lists #Click the saveicon to update the individual tiddlerlist tiddlers (storylists) One of the great things about jQSorter is that it is very simple and intuitive to use - You can create listitems (also non existing tiddlers) on the fly, thereby arrange ie. slideshows/tiddlerlists with "shadowtiddlers :)" which again can be shared/copied by drag'n drop to many other slideshows/tiddlerlists. When you have created your "headings" and lists - you can start creating content simply by clicking listitems in the jQSorterlist. Of course it would be great with even more drag'n drop features - and an ability to sort dynamically generated lists as well, however I think the jQSorterPlugin is an essential tool to be compared with ie. sortabletablePlugin - and ought to be just as simple to install - with as few dependencies as possible Let users have the privilege of getting to know jQSorterPlugin in it's own right, then extend it with even more plugins Just my 2 cents on the matter.. Cheers Måns Mårtensson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: JQSorterPlugin request(s)
Hi PMario, I think the best approach would be to have a dropable-sortable list to where you could drag a handle next to a tiddlers title ...and thus add the tiddler to the list. The culprits however are updates: 1) Remove tiddlers from the sortable list that are no longer found? 2) How would your sorted list be able to get notified of any name- changes? Finally, I guess there could be a kind of macro to (re)poulate the list based on a list of tagged tiddlers. At the beginning, when the list is empty you would simply fill it with all tiddlers tagged xyz. If the list is non-empty, you compare all tagged tiddlers to those already on the list, add any new items at the bottom while asking the user if he wants to remove all orphans, in case there are any. (Re)Populating a list could be done by ctrl-dragging just the same handle but next to a tag-tiddler's title onto the sortable list. On the other hand, while all of this may look nicer, it doesn't seem much easier than editing a tiddler's source, does it? ...while there would also be no benefit of making actually persistent links that survive name changes. Tobias. On 1 Aug., 21:39, PMario wrote: > some ideas. > What I want to have in the main menu is: < [tag[mainMenu]]>> > So if I tag a tiddler "mainMenu" it is automatically added to the main > menu. I do use this mechanism a lot. The only disadvantage is, that it > returns an alphabetically sorted list. > > I will do the following. Enable a xSort plugin, to sort by custom > field value. eg: order.tagName. Create two macros, that can be > activated as bookmarks. 1) dynamically load the jQueryUI stuff. 2) > xSort generates sortable lists and write the sortorder back to the > tiddlers custom field. If everything is sorted, save and reload and > all the additional stuff is gone. Your tw stays small :) > > possibilities: > <> .. for the menue > <> .. story 1 ... > > regards mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: JQSorterPlugin request(s)
Thanks a lot Mario :-)
Now it works exactly as I had hoped it would!!!
> You will need the code above < {{config. .. also. Especially ...
I put jQsorter into my SideBarTabs:
http://tiddly.bplaced.net/index.html#SideBarTabs
As it fits perfectly into the tabs - and put a link to a new tiddler
where you get an overview and can arrange tiddlers back and forth from
different stories...
http://tiddly.bplaced.net/index.html#%5B%5BAdministr%C3%A9r%20alle%20historier%20p%C3%A5%20een%20gang%5D%5D
This is pretty awesome...
Still - it would be wonderfull if the plugin could be cooked down to a
minimum ...
Thanks again
Måns Mårtensson
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[tw] Re: JQSorterPlugin request(s)
Hi again
I tried to get closer to your original concept by making this site:
http://tiddly.bplaced.net/MainStory (which is a TW with most of the
tiddlers from a-pm)
replacing <>
with
<>
It seems to work - however changes made to ie Story1 via jQSorter in
the MainMenu - isn't updated in the storytiddler "Story1" ... - and I
still get the "no source tiddlers defined for generating columns"
error message..
regards Måns Mårtensson
On 3 Aug., 22:37, Måns wrote:
> I made "something work" like this:
> <>
> in the tiddler
> "HistorieSortering"http://tiddly.bplaced.net/index.html#HistorieSortering
>
> -m
>
> On 3 Aug., 22:30, Måns wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi Mario
>
> > I'm not quite following you regarding the column thing - I'm not using
> > your original TW as a template
> > here:http://tiddly.bplaced.net/index.html#VisSlides(click"sortér" to get
> > the JQSorter UI in the active "storytiddler", however it's all stories/
> > tiddlerlinkslists tagged with "historie"(story in Danish) showing
> > up )
>
> > I get this error when putting "< > {{config.options.txtSelectStoryACTIVESTORY}} " into the mainmenu:
> > "no source tiddlers defined for generating columns"
>
> > cheers Måns Mårtensson
>
> > On 3 Aug., 18:46, PMario wrote:
>
> > > Hi,
> > > For switching to different stories inside mainMenu I made the
> > > SelectStoryMacro [1]. Have a look at the main menu there.
>
> > > instead of
> > > <> you could
> > > use.
>
> > > <
> > > Which should give you a jQsorter inside the mainMenue and selectStory
> > > should make it switchable.
>
> > > didn't test it, but it should work
>
> > > [1]http://a-pm.tiddlyspot.com/#SelectStoryMacro
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[tw] Re: JQSorterPlugin request(s)
On Aug 3, 10:30 pm, Måns wrote:
> Hi Mario
>
> I'm not quite following you regarding the column thing - I'm not using
> your original TW as a template
> here:http://tiddly.bplaced.net/index.html#VisSlides(click "sortér" to get
> the JQSorter UI in the active "storytiddler", however it's all stories/
> tiddlerlinkslists tagged with "historie"(story in Danish) showing
> up )
>
> I get this error when putting "< {{config.options.txtSelectStoryACTIVESTORY}} " into the mainmenu:
> "no source tiddlers defined for generating columns"
Sry. I wasn't clear. You will need the code above <> which sets the
txtSelectStoryACTIVESTORY variable.
<>
defines the header. It displayes the text inside the variable.
http://a-pm.tiddlyspot.com/#SelectStoryTest shows how it can work.
-m
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[tw] Re: JQSorterPlugin request(s)
I made "something work" like this:
<>
in the tiddler "HistorieSortering"
http://tiddly.bplaced.net/index.html#HistorieSortering
-m
On 3 Aug., 22:30, Måns wrote:
> Hi Mario
>
> I'm not quite following you regarding the column thing - I'm not using
> your original TW as a template
> here:http://tiddly.bplaced.net/index.html#VisSlides(click "sortér" to get
> the JQSorter UI in the active "storytiddler", however it's all stories/
> tiddlerlinkslists tagged with "historie"(story in Danish) showing
> up )
>
> I get this error when putting "< {{config.options.txtSelectStoryACTIVESTORY}} " into the mainmenu:
> "no source tiddlers defined for generating columns"
>
> cheers Måns Mårtensson
>
> On 3 Aug., 18:46, PMario wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi,
> > For switching to different stories inside mainMenu I made the
> > SelectStoryMacro [1]. Have a look at the main menu there.
>
> > instead of
> > <> you could
> > use.
>
> > <
> > Which should give you a jQsorter inside the mainMenue and selectStory
> > should make it switchable.
>
> > didn't test it, but it should work
>
> > [1]http://a-pm.tiddlyspot.com/#SelectStoryMacro
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[tw] Re: JQSorterPlugin request(s)
Hi Mario I'm not quite following you regarding the column thing - I'm not using your original TW as a template here: http://tiddly.bplaced.net/index.html#VisSlides (click "sortér" to get the JQSorter UI in the active "storytiddler", however it's all stories/ tiddlerlinkslists tagged with "historie"(story in Danish) showing up ) I get this error when putting "< wrote: > Hi, > For switching to different stories inside mainMenu I made the > SelectStoryMacro [1]. Have a look at the main menu there. > > instead of > <> you could > use. > > < > > > Which should give you a jQsorter inside the mainMenue and selectStory > should make it switchable. > > didn't test it, but it should work > > [1]http://a-pm.tiddlyspot.com/#SelectStoryMacro -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: JQSorterPlugin request(s)
Hi, For switching to different stories inside mainMenu I made the SelectStoryMacro [1]. Have a look at the main menu there. instead of <> you could use. <> Which should give you a jQsorter inside the mainMenue and selectStory should make it switchable. didn't test it, but it should work [1] http://a-pm.tiddlyspot.com/#SelectStoryMacro -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: JQSorterPlugin request(s)
Hi Mario > Is the "watching" feature essential, or is it a nice to have? Its *very* nice to have - however I see that the idea of having a sortable mainmenulist, where you can click the label thereby opening the tiddler in the storypane, almost eliminates the need for a preview... What I'm looking for is a replacement for Paul D's presentationsorter, which basically does the same thing as your original JQSorterPlugin - : sorts wikilinks order in a storytiddler. However I would like If it was possible to select different presentations (tiddlerlist), one at a time - in the mainmenu not just one - as in PD's plugin. This might present a new problem: The need for a unique tag or fieldPlugin: If one tiddlerlist (presentation/story) is tagged "UniqueTag" ie. your case: "MainMenu" then the tag "UniqueTag/ MainMenu" is automatically removed from the tiddlerlist/story/ presentation, that was tagged with "UniqueTag/MainMenu" - thereby ensuring that only one story/presentation/tiddlerlinkslist is shown in the MainMenu at a time. This way it would be possible to work with several presentations in TiddlySlidy - or a similar TiddlyWiki-based tool for presentations. However if it's possible to make JQSorter work on <> I see uses for that as well in slideshowsetups (not based on P. Soares' SlideShowPlugin), where each slide has a "SomeTag" referring to a specific slidecollection - still I would need the "UniqueTagPlugin" to put a new slidesList into the MainMenu. I'm not very keen on having "hidden/custom fields" as a base for a plugin - as it leaves traces which doesn't easily convert to new situations - im- export or editing, however the usefullness of such a plugin would be so great, that such problems seem to be minor obstacles in comparison.. - if you intend to develop a plugin which uses custom fields - please keep on the good work - I'm all eyes and ears :-) Cheers Måns Mårtensson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: JQSorterPlugin request(s)
some ideas. What I want to have in the main menu is: <> So if I tag a tiddler "mainMenu" it is automatically added to the main menu. I do use this mechanism a lot. The only disadvantage is, that it returns an alphabetically sorted list. I will do the following. Enable a xSort plugin, to sort by custom field value. eg: order.tagName. Create two macros, that can be activated as bookmarks. 1) dynamically load the jQueryUI stuff. 2) xSort generates sortable lists and write the sortorder back to the tiddlers custom field. If everything is sorted, save and reload and all the additional stuff is gone. Your tw stays small :) possibilities: <> .. for the menue <> .. story 1 ... regards mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: JQSorterPlugin request(s)
On Aug 1, 6:03 pm, Måns wrote: > Hi TwWizards - PMario in particular > > I really like the > JQSorterPluginhttp://a-pm-experimental.tiddlyspot.com/#JQSorter. cool. I didn't expect, that someone exept of me really uses it. > request#1 > I'd like the plugin to be scaled down to 1 or 2 files, instead of > needing to import (was it 10 individual tiddlers??) many tiddlers, not > all documented in the plugin itself.. me too :) I use it with tiddlyWeb hoster now, which makes things much easier > The ability to sort tiddlerlists of tiddlerlinks with drag'n drop is > something that I believe would be much more widespread if the plugin > is more easily implemented... hmm. right > This plugin might be a nice replacement for Paul Downey's > DragSortPlugin http://tiddlyslidy.com/#MainMenuOrderPlugin I did't know, that this plugin exists. thx :) > request#2 > Now the plugin works best as a "secondlevel-sorter" - it takes a > tiddlers list of tiddlers which constitutes a story and lets you > change the order as well as watching what's inside each tiddler. If > you use it as a "firstlevel-sorter" on a tiddler, which isn't merely a > tiddlerlinkslist, it will reformat each line to tiddlerlinks - and > create all sorts of random links.. > I would like it to be able to ignore everything *not* beeing > tiddlerlinks on a single line, when sorting - *or* create a new > JQSortSectionsPlugin, which in conjunction with Eric's > editSectionPlugin would make it a breeze to edit and rearrange large > tiddlers... At the time, I did this plugin, I was very fascinated about the widget implementation at jQueryUI demo site. So I couldn't see, that much easier sorting implementaions would be possible. That's why jQSorter is much bigger, than it could be. > Now the plugin works best as a "secondlevel-sorter" - it takes a > tiddlers list of tiddlers which constitutes a story and lets you > change the order as well as watching what's inside each tiddler. Is the "watching" feature essential, or is it a nice to have? I'll explain some ideas in the next post. -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
