[tw] Re: Using ASCIIsvg in TW
"Wait" errors are usually thrown when I first open my TW and display a tiddler containing drawings produced as above - either the spiral or the simpler straight red line. A small dialog box is shown saying "Wait" followed by all the commands in the drawing script (typically from initpicture onward). When it occurs in the spiral (which is the more comp;loicated drawing, IE usually crashes afterwards. When it occurs in the simpler line drawing IE is happy to continue once I've acknowledged the error. I don't yet know why. Kevin On Nov 2, 11:10 pm, kilucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just on the truncation of the spiral drawing ... > > The top and bottom truncation is fixed if I specifiy the y-axis > minimum and maximum explicitly in initpicture(-10,10,-10,10) rather > than initpicture(-10,10). I don't know why the version of ASCIISVG > that I'm using needs this when the ASCIISVG home page does not. > > I still don't understand the right-hand truncation. The drawing > initially appears in HTMLArea as a square with the origin offset to > the right because the x axis runs from -10 to only approximately 3. > The region with x from 3 to 10 is all missing. When I view the tiddler > in html mode and then revert to wysiwyg mode, the full x axis is shown > but on a drawing which is now wider than it is tall, the x-axis > spacing remaining the same as it was originally shown but the drawing > is wider to accomodate the x region from 3 to 10. > > Yet, when the tiddler is viewed after editing, the drawing is square > and correctly formed again. > > Ultimately I need the drawing correct in view mode and that's working. > But it'd be great to fix the editing mode which is, after all, meant > to be WYSIWYG. > > Kevin > > On Nov 2, 10:48 pm, kilucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > David > > > I've made significant progress and can now view drawings with partial > > success when tiddlers are viewed. Here's the posting I addded to the > > TiddlyWiki group that provides the details of what I did alongside > > what does and doesn't work now. And, as ever, if you have any insights > > into the remaining challenges, it'd be great to hear your views. > > > I've succeeded in getting drawings to draw correctly when a tiddler is > > displayed. > > > Guessing that ASCIIsvgAddon.js handled display of the drawing when a > > tiddler is viewed and knowing it contains a drawpics function that was > > almost identical to that in AsvgHA.js, I modified that in the former > > as follows: > > > I changed the following code in drawpics from ... > > > var sscr = picture.getAttribute("sscr"); > > if ((sscr != null) && (sscr != "")) { > > try { > > parseShortScript(sscr); > > } catch (e) {} > > } > > > to ... > > > //Modified by K Lucas following a related suggestion by David Lippman > > var sscr = picture.getAttribute("sscr"); > > var src = picture.getAttribute("script"); > > if ((sscr != null) && (sscr != "")) { > > try { > > parseShortScript(sscr); > > } catch (e) {} > > } else if ((src!=null) && (src != "")) { > > try { > > if (isIE) { > > with (Math) eval(src); > > // > > picture.window.setname(picture.id); > > } > > } catch(err) {alert(err+"\n"+src)} > > } > > //end of K Lucas modification > > > Now static drawings appear when tiddlers are viewed and whether or not > > they are edited with the standard TW editor or the html view in > > HTMLArea. > > > I'm getting some odd effects in this specific spiral drawing because > > the drawing is truncated at the top and bottom in both the html view > > within HTMLArea and when the drawing is viewed outside the editor, > > regardless of whether the drawing was created in a wysiwyg tiddler or > > a standard tiddler. This truncation remains even if I replace the > > width and height settings (which I can currently only do reliably in a > > non-wysiwyg tiddler because HTMLArea strips these out of the embed > > statement). > > > I also get truncation on the right of the drawing when I first view it > > in the wysiwyg view of the HTMLArea editor but not when I look at the > > code in html view and then return to wysiwyg view. > > > But I've created a simpler drawing using the folling and this appears > > to display correctly in all circumstances. > > > > script=' > > initPicture(-2,2) > > grid(1,1) > > marker = "arrow" > > stroke = "red" > > line([0,0],[1,1]) > > '> > > > I'm conscious that I haven't tested David's original suggestion fully > > or my further implementation of it in ASCIIsvgAddon.js and don't > > really know how to do this other than to exercise it through examples. > > But this all seems to be a great step forward. Beyond that testing,
[tw] Re: Using ASCIIsvg in TW
Just on the truncation of the spiral drawing ... The top and bottom truncation is fixed if I specifiy the y-axis minimum and maximum explicitly in initpicture(-10,10,-10,10) rather than initpicture(-10,10). I don't know why the version of ASCIISVG that I'm using needs this when the ASCIISVG home page does not. I still don't understand the right-hand truncation. The drawing initially appears in HTMLArea as a square with the origin offset to the right because the x axis runs from -10 to only approximately 3. The region with x from 3 to 10 is all missing. When I view the tiddler in html mode and then revert to wysiwyg mode, the full x axis is shown but on a drawing which is now wider than it is tall, the x-axis spacing remaining the same as it was originally shown but the drawing is wider to accomodate the x region from 3 to 10. Yet, when the tiddler is viewed after editing, the drawing is square and correctly formed again. Ultimately I need the drawing correct in view mode and that's working. But it'd be great to fix the editing mode which is, after all, meant to be WYSIWYG. Kevin On Nov 2, 10:48 pm, kilucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David > > I've made significant progress and can now view drawings with partial > success when tiddlers are viewed. Here's the posting I addded to the > TiddlyWiki group that provides the details of what I did alongside > what does and doesn't work now. And, as ever, if you have any insights > into the remaining challenges, it'd be great to hear your views. > > I've succeeded in getting drawings to draw correctly when a tiddler is > displayed. > > Guessing that ASCIIsvgAddon.js handled display of the drawing when a > tiddler is viewed and knowing it contains a drawpics function that was > almost identical to that in AsvgHA.js, I modified that in the former > as follows: > > I changed the following code in drawpics from ... > > var sscr = picture.getAttribute("sscr"); > if ((sscr != null) && (sscr != "")) { > try { > parseShortScript(sscr); > } catch (e) {} > } > > to ... > > //Modified by K Lucas following a related suggestion by David Lippman > var sscr = picture.getAttribute("sscr"); > var src = picture.getAttribute("script"); > if ((sscr != null) && (sscr != "")) { > try { > parseShortScript(sscr); > } catch (e) {} > } else if ((src!=null) && (src != "")) { > try { > if (isIE) { > with (Math) eval(src); > // > picture.window.setname(picture.id); > } > } catch(err) {alert(err+"\n"+src)} > } > //end of K Lucas modification > > Now static drawings appear when tiddlers are viewed and whether or not > they are edited with the standard TW editor or the html view in > HTMLArea. > > I'm getting some odd effects in this specific spiral drawing because > the drawing is truncated at the top and bottom in both the html view > within HTMLArea and when the drawing is viewed outside the editor, > regardless of whether the drawing was created in a wysiwyg tiddler or > a standard tiddler. This truncation remains even if I replace the > width and height settings (which I can currently only do reliably in a > non-wysiwyg tiddler because HTMLArea strips these out of the embed > statement). > > I also get truncation on the right of the drawing when I first view it > in the wysiwyg view of the HTMLArea editor but not when I look at the > code in html view and then return to wysiwyg view. > > But I've created a simpler drawing using the folling and this appears > to display correctly in all circumstances. > > script=' > initPicture(-2,2) > grid(1,1) > marker = "arrow" > stroke = "red" > line([0,0],[1,1]) > '> > > I'm conscious that I haven't tested David's original suggestion fully > or my further implementation of it in ASCIIsvgAddon.js and don't > really know how to do this other than to exercise it through examples. > But this all seems to be a great step forward. Beyond that testing, my > outstanding issues are therefore: > > 1) Can I stop HTMLArea swapping the script delimeters to single > quotes? > > 2) Can I stop HTMLArea removing the width and height statements? > > 3) How can I get the spiral drawing displayed without top and bottom > truncation when viewing the tiddler? > > 4) how can I get the spiral drawing to display without truncation of > the right-hand side when first viewed within HTMLArea's wysiwyg view > > 5) Find out whether animated drawings will also work using these > modified .js files. > > If anyone has any insights into 1- 4 above I'd be very interested to > hear your ideas. And I'll report back on item 5 when I've tried it. > > Many thanks > > Kevin > > On Nov 2, 10:45 pm, kilucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I'v
[tw] Re: Using ASCIIsvg in TW
David I've made significant progress and can now view drawings with partial success when tiddlers are viewed. Here's the posting I addded to the TiddlyWiki group that provides the details of what I did alongside what does and doesn't work now. And, as ever, if you have any insights into the remaining challenges, it'd be great to hear your views. I've succeeded in getting drawings to draw correctly when a tiddler is displayed. Guessing that ASCIIsvgAddon.js handled display of the drawing when a tiddler is viewed and knowing it contains a drawpics function that was almost identical to that in AsvgHA.js, I modified that in the former as follows: I changed the following code in drawpics from ... var sscr = picture.getAttribute("sscr"); if ((sscr != null) && (sscr != "")) { try { parseShortScript(sscr); } catch (e) {} } to ... //Modified by K Lucas following a related suggestion by David Lippman var sscr = picture.getAttribute("sscr"); var src = picture.getAttribute("script"); if ((sscr != null) && (sscr != "")) { try { parseShortScript(sscr); } catch (e) {} } else if ((src!=null) && (src != "")) { try { if (isIE) { with (Math) eval(src); // picture.window.setname(picture.id); } } catch(err) {alert(err+"\n"+src)} } //end of K Lucas modification Now static drawings appear when tiddlers are viewed and whether or not they are edited with the standard TW editor or the html view in HTMLArea. I'm getting some odd effects in this specific spiral drawing because the drawing is truncated at the top and bottom in both the html view within HTMLArea and when the drawing is viewed outside the editor, regardless of whether the drawing was created in a wysiwyg tiddler or a standard tiddler. This truncation remains even if I replace the width and height settings (which I can currently only do reliably in a non-wysiwyg tiddler because HTMLArea strips these out of the embed statement). I also get truncation on the right of the drawing when I first view it in the wysiwyg view of the HTMLArea editor but not when I look at the code in html view and then return to wysiwyg view. But I've created a simpler drawing using the folling and this appears to display correctly in all circumstances. I'm conscious that I haven't tested David's original suggestion fully or my further implementation of it in ASCIIsvgAddon.js and don't really know how to do this other than to exercise it through examples. But this all seems to be a great step forward. Beyond that testing, my outstanding issues are therefore: 1) Can I stop HTMLArea swapping the script delimeters to single quotes? 2) Can I stop HTMLArea removing the width and height statements? 3) How can I get the spiral drawing displayed without top and bottom truncation when viewing the tiddler? 4) how can I get the spiral drawing to display without truncation of the right-hand side when first viewed within HTMLArea's wysiwyg view 5) Find out whether animated drawings will also work using these modified .js files. If anyone has any insights into 1- 4 above I'd be very interested to hear your ideas. And I'll report back on item 5 when I've tried it. Many thanks Kevin On Nov 2, 10:45 pm, kilucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've succeeded in getting drawings to draw correctly when a tiddler is > displayed. > > Guessing that ASCIIsvgAddon.js handled display of the drawing when a > tiddler is viewed and knowing it contains a drawpics function that was > almost identical to that in AsvgHA.js, I modified that in the former > as follows: > > I changed the following code in drawpics from ... > > var sscr = picture.getAttribute("sscr"); > if ((sscr != null) && (sscr != "")) { > try { > parseShortScript(sscr); > } catch (e) {} > } > > to ... > > //Modified by K Lucas following a related suggestion by David Lippman > var sscr = picture.getAttribute("sscr"); > var src = picture.getAttribute("script"); > if ((sscr != null) && (sscr != "")) { > try { > parseShortScript(sscr); > } catch (e) {} > } else if ((src!=null) && (src != "")) { > try { > if (isIE) { > with (Math) eval(src); > // > picture.window.setname(picture.id); > } > } catch(err) {alert(err+"\n"+src)} > } > //end of K Lucas modification > > Now static drawings appear when tiddlers are viewed and whether or not > they are edited with the stan
[tw] Re: Using ASCIIsvg in TW
I've succeeded in getting drawings to draw correctly when a tiddler is displayed. Guessing that ASCIIsvgAddon.js handled display of the drawing when a tiddler is viewed and knowing it contains a drawpics function that was almost identical to that in AsvgHA.js, I modified that in the former as follows: I changed the following code in drawpics from ... var sscr = picture.getAttribute("sscr"); if ((sscr != null) && (sscr != "")) { try { parseShortScript(sscr); } catch (e) {} } to ... //Modified by K Lucas following a related suggestion by David Lippman var sscr = picture.getAttribute("sscr"); var src = picture.getAttribute("script"); if ((sscr != null) && (sscr != "")) { try { parseShortScript(sscr); } catch (e) {} } else if ((src!=null) && (src != "")) { try { if (isIE) { with (Math) eval(src); // picture.window.setname(picture.id); } } catch(err) {alert(err+"\n"+src)} } //end of K Lucas modification Now static drawings appear when tiddlers are viewed and whether or not they are edited with the standard TW editor or the html view in HTMLArea. I'm getting some odd effects in this specific spiral drawing because the drawing is truncated at the top and bottom in both the html view within HTMLArea and when the drawing is viewed outside the editor, regardless of whether the drawing was created in a wysiwyg tiddler or a standard tiddler. This truncation remains even if I replace the width and height settings (which I can currently only do reliably in a non-wysiwyg tiddler because HTMLArea strips these out of the embed statement). I also get truncation on the right of the drawing when I first view it in the wysiwyg view of the HTMLArea editor but not when I look at the code in html view and then return to wysiwyg view. But I've created a simpler drawing using the folling and this appears to display correctly in all circumstances. I'm conscious that I haven't tested David's original suggestion fully or my further implementation of it in ASCIIsvgAddon.js and don't really know how to do this other than to exercise it through examples. But this all seems to be a great step forward. Beyond that testing, my outstanding issues are therefore: 1) Can I stop HTMLArea swapping the script delimeters to single quotes? 2) Can I stop HTMLArea removing the width and height statements? 3) How can I get the spiral drawing displayed without top and bottom truncation when viewing the tiddler? 4) how can I get the spiral drawing to display without truncation of the right-hand side when first viewed within HTMLArea's wysiwyg view 5) Find out whether animated drawings will also work using these modified .js files. If anyone has any insights into 1- 4 above I'd be very interested to hear your ideas. And I'll report back on item 5 when I've tried it. Many thanks Kevin On Nov 2, 9:29 pm, kilucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In a standard (non-wysiwyg tiddler) I get the same output as for a > wysiwyg tiddler when the tiddler is displayed - an empty SVCG pane - > if I surround the embed statement with and which is > needed, I believe, to tell a standard tiddler to behave as a chunk of > html. > > In both cases therefore the formost challenge seem to lie in getting > the drawing to draw on the SVG pane. As the drawing is defined by the > script I'm guessing the problem lies in getting the script executed > when a tiddler is displayed as against when it's edited in the > HTMLArea editor which I can now achieve with the modified scripts > above. > > Kevin > > On Nov 2, 9:19 pm, kilucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Here's what I found when I tried this. > > > I placed the following in a wyswiwyg tiddler within Bram Chen's > > HTMLArea using the html view (not the standard editor view): > > > > > > It's code from an example of a drawing at the ASCIISVG home page > > athttp://www1.chapman.edu/~jipsen/svg/asciisvg.htmlbutmodified as > > follows: > > > 1) When I save the original raw "embed statement, the delimeiters for > > the script are changed from single quotes to double quotes and this > > throws errors when the script encounters the "red" attribute. So I > > changed the script delimiters to double quotes and the delimiters > > within the script itself to single quotes > > > 2) The original example begins > src="d.svg" ... The HTMLArea editor strips out the width and height > > elements - I don't know why. But I think they're being remembered > > because the SVG output seems to be affected by them nonetheless as > > mentioned below > > > 3) The original example refers to "d.svg" in the wrong location for > > Bram's HTMLArea and I corrected it. > > > The result was th
[tw] Re: Using ASCIIsvg in TW
In a standard (non-wysiwyg tiddler) I get the same output as for a wysiwyg tiddler when the tiddler is displayed - an empty SVCG pane - if I surround the embed statement with and which is needed, I believe, to tell a standard tiddler to behave as a chunk of html. In both cases therefore the formost challenge seem to lie in getting the drawing to draw on the SVG pane. As the drawing is defined by the script I'm guessing the problem lies in getting the script executed when a tiddler is displayed as against when it's edited in the HTMLArea editor which I can now achieve with the modified scripts above. Kevin On Nov 2, 9:19 pm, kilucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's what I found when I tried this. > > I placed the following in a wyswiwyg tiddler within Bram Chen's > HTMLArea using the html view (not the standard editor view): > > > > It's code from an example of a drawing at the ASCIISVG home page > athttp://www1.chapman.edu/~jipsen/svg/asciisvg.htmlbut modified as > follows: > > 1) When I save the original raw "embed statement, the delimeiters for > the script are changed from single quotes to double quotes and this > throws errors when the script encounters the "red" attribute. So I > changed the script delimiters to double quotes and the delimiters > within the script itself to single quotes > > 2) The original example begins src="d.svg" ... The HTMLArea editor strips out the width and height > elements - I don't know why. But I think they're being remembered > because the SVG output seems to be affected by them nonetheless as > mentioned below > > 3) The original example refers to "d.svg" in the wrong location for > Bram's HTMLArea and I corrected it. > > The result was that I did indeed see the drawing when I switched out > of raw html mode and back to normal viewing within the editor. > > Another oddity was that I'd initially used a version of the embed > statement that omitted the height and width statements and the drawing > had been truncated on the right. When I replaced the width and height > statements, the drawing appeared correctly even though html view in > the editor no longer showed the width and height statements. > > However, the drawing only appears as an empty SVG area when I view the > tiddler oustide the editor. Hence I'm only halfway to the desired > solution. > > If I place the same embed statement in a non-wysiwyg tiddler (so it's > never been touched by HTMLArea) I just see the embed statement when I > view the tiddler. > > Overall I'm therefore left wondering: > > 1) How can I get the drawing displayed when viewing the tiddler? Is > there perhaps an equivalent place in my TW where I need to get the > right code to execute at view time instead of edit time? > 2) Can I stop HTMLArea swapping the script delimeters to single > quotes? > 3) can I stop HTMLArea removing thew width and height statements? > 4) How would I invoke the same drawing from a non-wysiwyg tiddler. > (Maybe the answer to 1 above will help here). > > I'll let you know if I learn more but if anyone has any insights that > might help further, please by all means let me know. > > Thanks > > Kevin > > On Nov 2, 8:57 pm, kilucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > David's made the following suggestion: > > > This is untested so no guarantees, but you can try this: In > > AsvgHA.js > > (or ASCIIsvgHA.js) drawPics, replace > > > var sscr = picture.getAttribute("sscr"); > > if ((sscr != null) && (sscr != "")) { > > try { > > if (isIE) { > > parseShortScript(sscr); > > //names the SVG so it can identify > > itself onclick > > picture.window.setname(picture.id); > > } > > } catch (e) {} > > } > > > with > > > var sscr = picture.getAttribute("sscr"); > > var src = picture.getAttribute("script"); > > > if ((sscr != null) && (sscr != "")) { > > try { > > if (isIE) { > > parseShortScript(sscr); > > //names the SVG so it can identify > > itself onclick > > picture.window.setname(picture.id); > > } > > } catch (e) {} > > } else if ((src!=null) && (src != "")) { > > try { > > if (isIE) { > > with (Math) eval(src); > > picture.window.setname(picture.id); > > } > > } catch(err) {alert(err+"\n"+src)} > > } > > > Kevin > > > On Oct 28, 12:18 pm, kilucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I posted some informatiuon about this in the ASCIIMath Google group > > > where David Lippman and Peter Jipsen, who were both instr
[tw] Re: Using ASCIIsvg in TW
Here's what I found when I tried this. I placed the following in a wyswiwyg tiddler within Bram Chen's HTMLArea using the html view (not the standard editor view): It's code from an example of a drawing at the ASCIISVG home page at http://www1.chapman.edu/~jipsen/svg/asciisvg.html but modified as follows: 1) When I save the original raw "embed statement, the delimeiters for the script are changed from single quotes to double quotes and this throws errors when the script encounters the "red" attribute. So I changed the script delimiters to double quotes and the delimiters within the script itself to single quotes 2) The original example begins wrote: > David's made the following suggestion: > > This is untested so no guarantees, but you can try this: In > AsvgHA.js > (or ASCIIsvgHA.js) drawPics, replace > > var sscr = picture.getAttribute("sscr"); > if ((sscr != null) && (sscr != "")) { > try { > if (isIE) { > parseShortScript(sscr); > //names the SVG so it can identify > itself onclick > picture.window.setname(picture.id); > } > } catch (e) {} > } > > with > > var sscr = picture.getAttribute("sscr"); > var src = picture.getAttribute("script"); > > if ((sscr != null) && (sscr != "")) { > try { > if (isIE) { > parseShortScript(sscr); > //names the SVG so it can identify > itself onclick > picture.window.setname(picture.id); > } > } catch (e) {} > } else if ((src!=null) && (src != "")) { > try { > if (isIE) { > with (Math) eval(src); > picture.window.setname(picture.id); > } > } catch(err) {alert(err+"\n"+src)} > } > > Kevin > > On Oct 28, 12:18 pm, kilucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I posted some informatiuon about this in the ASCIIMath Google group > > where David Lippman and Peter Jipsen, who were both instrumental in > > producing the mathematical version of HTMLArea are posting. David got > > back to me to suggest there's a bug inASCIIsvgwhich is causing the > > problem. > > > I've copied my posting and his reply here (my apologies if that breaks > > any form of etiquette) and will see if I can rectify the problem > > myself although I'm not that handy with code and this may defeat me. > > Maybe someone better skilled might know how to fix this without too > > much effort. > > > Bram: Presumably it'd be good to incorporate any solution we find into > > your package. > > > Here's my posting, then David's reply: > > > Kevin > > I'm using ASCIIMathML andASCIIsvgwith HTMLArea in TiddlyWiki. The > > implementation I have > > fromhttp://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=150646&package_... > > invokes a window (called the Equation Grapher Control Panel) in which > > I can specifiy graph parameters to create SVG graphs. But theASCIIsvg > > home page suggests I might also be able to form my own drawings by > > embedding some material in web pages. > > > By pasting examples similar those on theASCIIsvghome page into the > > raw html viewer of HTMLArea available via a toolbar button I've got > > my > > browser to recognise that an svg object is to be rendered (the right > > mouse menu is appropriate to SVG) but myASCIIsvgcode isn't > > generating a drawing. > > > My latest simple example is the following which amounts to an entire > > Tiddlywiki tiddler: > > > Start text > script="initPicture(-2,2,-2,2);axes();line([-2,-2],[2,2]);" /> > > >End text > > > (The instructions on theASCIIsvghome page say that the script > > delimiters should be single quotes but the HTMLArea editor converts > > them to double quotes even when I manually change them back). > > > When I display the resultant page I get an empty SVG area surrounded > > by my start and end text and sometimes get a dialog box saying only > > "undefined" though it doesn't make clear what is undefined. > > > When I compare the html here with the html generated by the Equation > > Grapher Control Panel wiindow the latter uses an sscr attribute to > > specific the graph I think but I can't find out what the sscr element > > is. And in any case it doesn't seem to be part of theASCIIsvg > > vocabulary as far as I can tell. > > > I tried the same material in an ASciencePad tiddler but had no > > further > > success there. > > > So does anyone here know if I should be able to specify my own > > drawings in the TiddlyWiki/HTMLAea environment and if so how I'd > > speciify them so that they draw completely please? > > > David: > >
[tw] Re: Using ASCIIsvg in TW
David's made the following suggestion: This is untested so no guarantees, but you can try this: In AsvgHA.js (or ASCIIsvgHA.js) drawPics, replace var sscr = picture.getAttribute("sscr"); if ((sscr != null) && (sscr != "")) { try { if (isIE) { parseShortScript(sscr); //names the SVG so it can identify itself onclick picture.window.setname(picture.id); } } catch (e) {} } with var sscr = picture.getAttribute("sscr"); var src = picture.getAttribute("script"); if ((sscr != null) && (sscr != "")) { try { if (isIE) { parseShortScript(sscr); //names the SVG so it can identify itself onclick picture.window.setname(picture.id); } } catch (e) {} } else if ((src!=null) && (src != "")) { try { if (isIE) { with (Math) eval(src); picture.window.setname(picture.id); } } catch(err) {alert(err+"\n"+src)} } Kevin On Oct 28, 12:18 pm, kilucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I posted some informatiuon about this in the ASCIIMath Google group > where David Lippman and Peter Jipsen, who were both instrumental in > producing the mathematical version of HTMLArea are posting. David got > back to me to suggest there's a bug inASCIIsvgwhich is causing the > problem. > > I've copied my posting and his reply here (my apologies if that breaks > any form of etiquette) and will see if I can rectify the problem > myself although I'm not that handy with code and this may defeat me. > Maybe someone better skilled might know how to fix this without too > much effort. > > Bram: Presumably it'd be good to incorporate any solution we find into > your package. > > Here's my posting, then David's reply: > > Kevin > I'm using ASCIIMathML andASCIIsvgwith HTMLArea in TiddlyWiki. The > implementation I have > fromhttp://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=150646&package_... > invokes a window (called the Equation Grapher Control Panel) in which > I can specifiy graph parameters to create SVG graphs. But theASCIIsvg > home page suggests I might also be able to form my own drawings by > embedding some material in web pages. > > By pasting examples similar those on theASCIIsvghome page into the > raw html viewer of HTMLArea available via a toolbar button I've got > my > browser to recognise that an svg object is to be rendered (the right > mouse menu is appropriate to SVG) but myASCIIsvgcode isn't > generating a drawing. > > My latest simple example is the following which amounts to an entire > Tiddlywiki tiddler: > > Start text script="initPicture(-2,2,-2,2);axes();line([-2,-2],[2,2]);" /> > >End text > > (The instructions on theASCIIsvghome page say that the script > delimiters should be single quotes but the HTMLArea editor converts > them to double quotes even when I manually change them back). > > When I display the resultant page I get an empty SVG area surrounded > by my start and end text and sometimes get a dialog box saying only > "undefined" though it doesn't make clear what is undefined. > > When I compare the html here with the html generated by the Equation > Grapher Control Panel wiindow the latter uses an sscr attribute to > specific the graph I think but I can't find out what the sscr element > is. And in any case it doesn't seem to be part of theASCIIsvg > vocabulary as far as I can tell. > > I tried the same material in an ASciencePad tiddler but had no > further > success there. > > So does anyone here know if I should be able to specify my own > drawings in the TiddlyWiki/HTMLAea environment and if so how I'd > speciify them so that they draw completely please? > > David: > The sscr attribute is a "short script" that is the abbreviated format > used by the Equation Grapher Control Panel. > > When I wrote theASCIIsvgplugin for HTMLArea, there were two files > in > addition toASCIIsvg.js: AsvgHA.js (or ASCIIsvgHA.js) and > ASCIIsvgAddon.js. The former is used in the editor window itself; > the > latter is intended to be included in the output. > > Looking at it, it appears that I stripped the "script" attribute > handling out of AsvgHA.js (in the drawPics function). Not sure > exactly why. The handling is still in ASCIIsvgAddon.js, so it should > be possible to add it in to AsvgHA.js. > > > > On 27 Oct, 18:17, kilucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I've made limited progress. My browser now recognmises that I'm trying > > to display an SVG picture but doesn't actually
[tw] Re: Using ASCIIsvg in TW
I posted some informatiuon about this in the ASCIIMath Google group where David Lippman and Peter Jipsen, who were both instrumental in producing the mathematical version of HTMLArea are posting. David got back to me to suggest there's a bug in ASCIIsvg which is causing the problem. I've copied my posting and his reply here (my apologies if that breaks any form of etiquette) and will see if I can rectify the problem myself although I'm not that handy with code and this may defeat me. Maybe someone better skilled might know how to fix this without too much effort. Bram: Presumably it'd be good to incorporate any solution we find into your package. Here's my posting, then David's reply: Kevin I'm using ASCIIMathML and ASCIIsvg with HTMLArea in TiddlyWiki. The implementation I have from http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=150646&package_... invokes a window (called the Equation Grapher Control Panel) in which I can specifiy graph parameters to create SVG graphs. But the ASCIIsvg home page suggests I might also be able to form my own drawings by embedding some material in web pages. By pasting examples similar those on the ASCIIsvg home page into the raw html viewer of HTMLArea available via a toolbar button I've got my browser to recognise that an svg object is to be rendered (the right mouse menu is appropriate to SVG) but my ASCIIsvg code isn't generating a drawing. My latest simple example is the following which amounts to an entire Tiddlywiki tiddler: Start textEnd text (The instructions on the ASCIIsvg home page say that the script delimiters should be single quotes but the HTMLArea editor converts them to double quotes even when I manually change them back). When I display the resultant page I get an empty SVG area surrounded by my start and end text and sometimes get a dialog box saying only "undefined" though it doesn't make clear what is undefined. When I compare the html here with the html generated by the Equation Grapher Control Panel wiindow the latter uses an sscr attribute to specific the graph I think but I can't find out what the sscr element is. And in any case it doesn't seem to be part of the ASCIIsvg vocabulary as far as I can tell. I tried the same material in an ASciencePad tiddler but had no further success there. So does anyone here know if I should be able to specify my own drawings in the TiddlyWiki/HTMLAea environment and if so how I'd speciify them so that they draw completely please? David: The sscr attribute is a "short script" that is the abbreviated format used by the Equation Grapher Control Panel. When I wrote the ASCIIsvg plugin for HTMLArea, there were two files in addition to ASCIIsvg.js: AsvgHA.js (or ASCIIsvgHA.js) and ASCIIsvgAddon.js. The former is used in the editor window itself; the latter is intended to be included in the output. Looking at it, it appears that I stripped the "script" attribute handling out of AsvgHA.js (in the drawPics function). Not sure exactly why. The handling is still in ASCIIsvgAddon.js, so it should be possible to add it in to AsvgHA.js. On 27 Oct, 18:17, kilucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've made limited progress. My browser now recognmises that I'm trying > to display an SVG picture but doesn't actually draw the picture I > intend. Here's what I've done and what I'm thinking of trying next. > > I've inserted the provided by the HTMLArea editor). This seems to recognise the "<" sign > much better than when I placed the editor itself. (A look at the genereated html for the whole TW when > the tiddler was on display showed "embed .. preceded by "lt" when I > pasted the than "<" which was generated by the ASCIISvg grapher. > > Once I set HTMLArea to show me the html and pasted the statement there, I could no longer see that part of the statement when > viewing the tiddler instead of seeing all the code I'd pasted in. > Guessing this meant that the embed statement was being acted upon > instead of merely redisplayed as code, this seemed to be a little > progress. > > I now also see an area in the displayed tiddler which my browser > clearly thinks is an SVG area because a right click in IE6 offers SVG > menu options. > > The recomended code at the ASCIISvg web site includes a reference to a > file called "d.svg". In HTMLArea this is located at "HTMLArea\plugins > \AsciiSvg\d.svg" so I edited the HTML to reflect this longer relative > path. This made no practical difference that I can see so I'm simply > guessing it's correct. > > I had a further problem with the raw html editor within HTMLArea. It > seems to change the script delimiters from the single quotes that I > pasted in to double quotes. As I was initially trialling an ASCIISvg > script that contained parameters demarcated by double quotes I guessed > there'd be confusion about nested double quotes and therefore trialled > a script that contained no other double quotes to avoid confusion. > Currently I
[tw] Re: Using ASCIIsvg in TW
I've made limited progress. My browser now recognmises that I'm trying to display an SVG picture but doesn't actually draw the picture I intend. Here's what I've done and what I'm thinking of trying next. I've inserted the Start textEnd text. Although an SVG area is displayed by my browser now, I'm still not seeing the desired drawing. 1) I've tried placing width and height paramenetsr after the "embed" word but these get stripped out by the editor - I'm not sure why. 2) I don't see the line drawn as requested by the code or even the axes that should appear. I do get a dialog box merely saying "undefined" a few times before I clear it. I don't yet know how to fix this and don't yet know if this is clue to the failed drawing or whether it relates to something else. I've compared the generated html for the whole TW to the code generated by the ASCIISvg graphing window available inside HTMLArea and that contains an ssrc statement that I've not seen in any ASCIIsvg coding. I'm currently guessing that the graphing window is therefore generating SVG code rather than ASCIISvg code and that my problem lies in getting ASCIISVG code recognised. I'll explore how to insert SVG code in my html to see if that draws lines correctly. If SVG code works but ASCIISvg does not, this might support the view that my problem lies in ASCIIsvg code recognition. (I'd also be puzzled why ASCIISvg is present with this version of HTMLArea since, to my limited understanding, it'd suggest that ASCIISvg isn't actually used anywhere in the grapher). But if anyone already spots why my graph still won't draw even though I'm now at least invoking the SVG viewer, I'd be delighted to hear from you as I admit that I feel I'm groping in the dark a little at present. Thanks Kevin On Oct 19, 1:13 pm, kilucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Interesting. I tried the only saw the script. That's almost a relief anyway because my Firefox > objectes to pasting into a tiddler because of security problem that I > haven't been able to fix yet, but pasting example SVG code is much > faster and less error prone than retyping it by hand. > > I tried placing d.svg adjacent to the TW and even an extra copy of the > originalASCIIsvg.js there although the header markup wouldn't have > known about the latter and neither made any difference. > > It's such a shame because the drawing facilities are so useful as well > as the graphing facilities. And, presuming that the graphing > facilities invoke the drawing facilities anyway, I feel drawing by > providing theASCIIsvgcode must somehow be possible. > > For now I'm using a separate web page to draw my images and am using > SnagIt to take a screenshot of the drawing which I then place in the > tiddler as an image. This admittedly has the advantage that it can be > viewed by anyone with IE but without the SVGViewer but my pages > typically include mathematical notation via ASCIIMathML so they need > the MathPlayer anyway. AQnd I couldn't reasonably expect any other > user of my TW's to do this. > > And I can't render dynamic images using screenshots as I could > theoretically withASCIIsvg. > > So I'll keep thinking about this to see if I can find some way to > getASCIIsvgcode invoked. And I didn't realise there's a plugin to store > images in TWs - I'm holding mine in an Images folder alongside but > this reduces portability I feel. So I'll explore that too - thanks for > the tip. > > Kevin > > On Oct 19, 1:01 pm, okido <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi Kevin, > > > I had the same problems with IE and ACIIsvg and I abandoned graphics > > for that reason. > > However there is still a concept that I would like to try and that I > > used long time ago when I was still working on my CP/m system. > > At that time I constructed graphs directly in video memory, this > > worked fine. > > Something similar could be done by dynamically altering an image that > > is stored in a tiddler. > > There is a plugin for storing images in tiddlers available. > > At least this would solve IE problems I think. > > Maybe there are some programmers out there how would like to pick up > > this concept. > > > Have a nice day, Okido > > > On 17 Oct, 20:32, kilucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Okido > > > > Thanks for this. I'd forgotten about this source but found a similar > > > one called CTY's Math TiddlyWiki athttp://www.jostylr.com/deli.html > > > last night, so thanks for the reminder. They both useASCIIsvgstand > > > alone from the enhanced HTMLArea of Peter Jipsen and Bram Chen which > > > I'm hoping to use and I'm guessing that I might confuse my TW if it > > > includes two versions ofASCIIsvgfor now. > > > > Paolo's examples solely use script to generate graphs or other > > > drawings which is exactly my aim, but in addition to the graphing > > > front end that Bram mentions above and which works in my TWs. > > > > They just seem to embed the code in a standard tiddler surrounded by > > > html tags and it'd be grea
[tw] Re: Using ASCIIsvg in TW
Interesting. I tried the wrote: > Hi Kevin, > > I had the same problems with IE and ACIIsvg and I abandoned graphics > for that reason. > However there is still a concept that I would like to try and that I > used long time ago when I was still working on my CP/m system. > At that time I constructed graphs directly in video memory, this > worked fine. > Something similar could be done by dynamically altering an image that > is stored in a tiddler. > There is a plugin for storing images in tiddlers available. > At least this would solve IE problems I think. > Maybe there are some programmers out there how would like to pick up > this concept. > > Have a nice day, Okido > > On 17 Oct, 20:32, kilucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Okido > > > Thanks for this. I'd forgotten about this source but found a similar > > one called CTY's Math TiddlyWiki athttp://www.jostylr.com/deli.html > > last night, so thanks for the reminder. They both use ASCIIsvg stand > > alone from the enhanced HTMLArea of Peter Jipsen and Bram Chen which > > I'm hoping to use and I'm guessing that I might confuse my TW if it > > includes two versions of ASCIIsvg for now. > > > Paolo's examples solely use script to generate graphs or other > > drawings which is exactly my aim, but in addition to the graphing > > front end that Bram mentions above and which works in my TWs. > > > They just seem to embed the code in a standard tiddler surrounded by > > html tags and it'd be great if I could do that in HTMLArea but my > > experiemnts have all failed and I just see the code. > > > CTY's surrounded the code with two backticks but that might also > > complicate my copy of HTMLArea which uses a single backtick to > > surround ASCIIMathML markup (as does Paolo's I think). > > > Lastly, both copies throw object errors when I try to display the > > sample graphs and drawings in IE6 but then Paolo warns it's not tested > > for IE. A quick trial at the link you posted worked fine in Firefox. > > > I haven't stteled on my likely browser yet though I'd prefer IE > > because that's the native browser on my target PCs. Both throw > > inconvenient security messages that I've still not got rid of entirely > > and Firefox objects to pasting html without a complicated-looking > > change to the browser environment which I'd have to do on each PC - > > not very appealing. > > > So there's a lot left to settle but if I could just invoke ASCIIsvg > > via code in addition to the graphing front end, all in HTMLArea in at > > least one browser, that'd be a great step forward. > > > And if I can't, I may fall back to your option with FireFox. So thanks > > for the clues. > > > Kevin > > > On Oct 17, 5:01 pm, okido <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi Kilucas, > > > > I made some graphs with little effort. > > > See the TW of Paulo Soares > > > athttp://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~psoares/addons.html > > > This will certainly help you further. > > > > Have a nice day, Okido > > > > On 17 Oct, 09:43, kilucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Bram > > > > > Thanks for this and this parameter screen generates fine when I use > > > > the trigger button on the HTMLArea toolbar. > > > > > But I think it is only useful for graphs. If I want to draw say a > > > > trigonometric diagram such as that > > > > athttp://math.chapman.edu/cgi-bin/math.pl?Sum_of_angles_cos_formula > > > > then I believe I need access to all the ASCIIsvg commands direcatly > > > > and hence would like to know how to embed them in a tiddler. > > > > > Do you think this is possible perhaps? > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Kevin > > > > > On Oct 17, 5:27 am, BramChen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Kevin, > > > > > > The attachment might be a solution for you if I understand you > > > > > correctly. > > > > > > -- > > > > > Bram Chen > > > > > > ParametricSpiral.png > > > > > 37KViewDownload- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Using ASCIIsvg in TW
Hi Kevin, I had the same problems with IE and ACIIsvg and I abandoned graphics for that reason. However there is still a concept that I would like to try and that I used long time ago when I was still working on my CP/m system. At that time I constructed graphs directly in video memory, this worked fine. Something similar could be done by dynamically altering an image that is stored in a tiddler. There is a plugin for storing images in tiddlers available. At least this would solve IE problems I think. Maybe there are some programmers out there how would like to pick up this concept. Have a nice day, Okido On 17 Oct, 20:32, kilucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okido > > Thanks for this. I'd forgotten about this source but found a similar > one called CTY's Math TiddlyWiki athttp://www.jostylr.com/deli.html > last night, so thanks for the reminder. They both use ASCIIsvg stand > alone from the enhanced HTMLArea of Peter Jipsen and Bram Chen which > I'm hoping to use and I'm guessing that I might confuse my TW if it > includes two versions of ASCIIsvg for now. > > Paolo's examples solely use script to generate graphs or other > drawings which is exactly my aim, but in addition to the graphing > front end that Bram mentions above and which works in my TWs. > > They just seem to embed the code in a standard tiddler surrounded by > html tags and it'd be great if I could do that in HTMLArea but my > experiemnts have all failed and I just see the code. > > CTY's surrounded the code with two backticks but that might also > complicate my copy of HTMLArea which uses a single backtick to > surround ASCIIMathML markup (as does Paolo's I think). > > Lastly, both copies throw object errors when I try to display the > sample graphs and drawings in IE6 but then Paolo warns it's not tested > for IE. A quick trial at the link you posted worked fine in Firefox. > > I haven't stteled on my likely browser yet though I'd prefer IE > because that's the native browser on my target PCs. Both throw > inconvenient security messages that I've still not got rid of entirely > and Firefox objects to pasting html without a complicated-looking > change to the browser environment which I'd have to do on each PC - > not very appealing. > > So there's a lot left to settle but if I could just invoke ASCIIsvg > via code in addition to the graphing front end, all in HTMLArea in at > least one browser, that'd be a great step forward. > > And if I can't, I may fall back to your option with FireFox. So thanks > for the clues. > > Kevin > > On Oct 17, 5:01 pm, okido <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Kilucas, > > > I made some graphs with little effort. > > See the TW of Paulo Soares athttp://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~psoares/addons.html > > This will certainly help you further. > > > Have a nice day, Okido > > > On 17 Oct, 09:43, kilucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Bram > > > > Thanks for this and this parameter screen generates fine when I use > > > the trigger button on the HTMLArea toolbar. > > > > But I think it is only useful for graphs. If I want to draw say a > > > trigonometric diagram such as that > > > athttp://math.chapman.edu/cgi-bin/math.pl?Sum_of_angles_cos_formula > > > then I believe I need access to all the ASCIIsvg commands direcatly > > > and hence would like to know how to embed them in a tiddler. > > > > Do you think this is possible perhaps? > > > > Thanks > > > > Kevin > > > > On Oct 17, 5:27 am, BramChen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi Kevin, > > > > > The attachment might be a solution for you if I understand you > > > > correctly. > > > > > -- > > > > Bram Chen > > > > > ParametricSpiral.png > > > > 37KViewDownload- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Using ASCIIsvg in TW
Okido Thanks for this. I'd forgotten about this source but found a similar one called CTY's Math TiddlyWiki at http://www.jostylr.com/deli.html last night, so thanks for the reminder. They both use ASCIIsvg stand alone from the enhanced HTMLArea of Peter Jipsen and Bram Chen which I'm hoping to use and I'm guessing that I might confuse my TW if it includes two versions of ASCIIsvg for now. Paolo's examples solely use script to generate graphs or other drawings which is exactly my aim, but in addition to the graphing front end that Bram mentions above and which works in my TWs. They just seem to embed the code in a standard tiddler surrounded by html tags and it'd be great if I could do that in HTMLArea but my experiemnts have all failed and I just see the code. CTY's surrounded the code with two backticks but that might also complicate my copy of HTMLArea which uses a single backtick to surround ASCIIMathML markup (as does Paolo's I think). Lastly, both copies throw object errors when I try to display the sample graphs and drawings in IE6 but then Paolo warns it's not tested for IE. A quick trial at the link you posted worked fine in Firefox. I haven't stteled on my likely browser yet though I'd prefer IE because that's the native browser on my target PCs. Both throw inconvenient security messages that I've still not got rid of entirely and Firefox objects to pasting html without a complicated-looking change to the browser environment which I'd have to do on each PC - not very appealing. So there's a lot left to settle but if I could just invoke ASCIIsvg via code in addition to the graphing front end, all in HTMLArea in at least one browser, that'd be a great step forward. And if I can't, I may fall back to your option with FireFox. So thanks for the clues. Kevin On Oct 17, 5:01 pm, okido <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Kilucas, > > I made some graphs with little effort. > See the TW of Paulo Soares athttp://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~psoares/addons.html > This will certainly help you further. > > Have a nice day, Okido > > On 17 Oct, 09:43, kilucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Bram > > > Thanks for this and this parameter screen generates fine when I use > > the trigger button on the HTMLArea toolbar. > > > But I think it is only useful for graphs. If I want to draw say a > > trigonometric diagram such as that > > athttp://math.chapman.edu/cgi-bin/math.pl?Sum_of_angles_cos_formula > > then I believe I need access to all the ASCIIsvg commands direcatly > > and hence would like to know how to embed them in a tiddler. > > > Do you think this is possible perhaps? > > > Thanks > > > Kevin > > > On Oct 17, 5:27 am, BramChen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi Kevin, > > > > The attachment might be a solution for you if I understand you correctly. > > > > -- > > > Bram Chen > > > > ParametricSpiral.png > > > 37KViewDownload- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Using ASCIIsvg in TW
Hi Kilucas, I made some graphs with little effort. See the TW of Paulo Soares at http://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~psoares/addons.html This will certainly help you further. Have a nice day, Okido On 17 Oct, 09:43, kilucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bram > > Thanks for this and this parameter screen generates fine when I use > the trigger button on the HTMLArea toolbar. > > But I think it is only useful for graphs. If I want to draw say a > trigonometric diagram such as that > athttp://math.chapman.edu/cgi-bin/math.pl?Sum_of_angles_cos_formula > then I believe I need access to all the ASCIIsvg commands direcatly > and hence would like to know how to embed them in a tiddler. > > Do you think this is possible perhaps? > > Thanks > > Kevin > > On Oct 17, 5:27 am, BramChen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Kevin, > > > The attachment might be a solution for you if I understand you correctly. > > > -- > > Bram Chen > > > ParametricSpiral.png > > 37KViewDownload --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Using ASCIIsvg in TW
Bram Thanks for this and this parameter screen generates fine when I use the trigger button on the HTMLArea toolbar. But I think it is only useful for graphs. If I want to draw say a trigonometric diagram such as that at http://math.chapman.edu/cgi-bin/math.pl?Sum_of_angles_cos_formula then I believe I need access to all the ASCIIsvg commands direcatly and hence would like to know how to embed them in a tiddler. Do you think this is possible perhaps? Thanks Kevin On Oct 17, 5:27 am, BramChen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Kevin, > > The attachment might be a solution for you if I understand you correctly. > > -- > Bram Chen > > ParametricSpiral.png > 37KViewDownload --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Using ASCIIsvg in TW
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