Re: [tw] TiddlyWiki 5 accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Simon Eigeldinger 

hi jeremy,

thanks.
looks good so far.
the toolbar biuttons are now labeled properly.

greetings,
simon

Am 14.06.2014 19:51, schrieb Jeremy Ruston:

I've started making the changes


The changes are in github in the "accessibility" branch:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/compare/accessibility

Best wishes

Jeremy


On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Jeremy Ruston 
wrote:


Hi Simon,

Thanks for the feedback. I've added a couple of points to the ticket.

I've started making the changes by applying aria-label and title
attributes to the view and edit toolbar buttons, and the three page
controls. I'd be grateful if you could let me know how they work with the
screen reader:

http://tw5test.tiddlyspot.com/

(Note that I've only addressed the toolbar buttons I mentioned, and
haven't started the other updates).

Best wishes

Jeremy




On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Simon Eigeldinger <
simon.eigeldin...@vol.at> wrote:


hi Jeremy,

got it working on my system.
currently using the code from the github repo.

maybe the following would be a good idea to add to the current wiki:
1 labeling all buttons with meaningful texts as talked before
2 maybe labeling the … link for the search box with Search.
3 labeling the × buttons with better text. maybe the word close.
4 adding different aria roles as also written somewhere
5 adding a heading level 1 tag for the beginning of each tiddler so you
can nicely jump to each tiddler.
maybe could faked with css to normal text if sighted people might not
like it all that much. *smile*
screenreaders have various commands to navigate to all different types of
elements like headings in various levels, buttons, links visited or not
visited, all kinds of other form fields, lists, aria roles, tables.

cool would be if the points 1, 3 and 5 could be fixed in the next days or
so. i don't know how much work it is to label a few buttons in tw5's code.

greetings,
simon




Am 13.06.2014 12:08, schrieb Jeremy Ruston:

  Hi Simon


  as a blind person i thought let's see how it does using a screenreader.




Terrific. I'm very keen to get TiddlyWiki working well with screenreaders
(it's on the roadmap as "better ARIA support"). It would be great to get
your feedback as we iterate the necessary improvements.

Getting it working well is largely a matter of reviewing all the markup
TW
generates to ensure that it looks appropriate in the screenreader. I've
added a ticket on GitHub for the issues that you mention here:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/650

If you find any related issues please add a comment here or on the
ticket.

  btw how do i create a single page wiki from the source code? maybe



soneone could tell me that step by step and tell me which dependencies i
might need.

You just need to install Node.js from nodejs.org, and then install
TiddlyWiki itself with `npm install tiddlywiki`. Full instructions here:

http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki%20on%20Node.js

Best wishes

Jeremy



On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:56 AM,  wrote:

  Hi all,


I just saw that TiddlyWiki 5 is around.
as a blind person i thought let's see how it does using a screenreader.
i have figured out that there are a bunch of unlabeled buttons so the
screenreader just announces the word button and nothing more.
maybe they just include a icon and no text.
for example the buttons open, recent, tools, and more are labeled
correctly.
i also saw there are buttons which are just labeled with × so i don't
know
what those do either.

would be cool if someone could label all the buttons which have no
apropriate labels.

btw how do i create a single page wiki from the source code? maybe
soneone
could tell me that step by step and tell me which dependencies i might
need.


i have linux and windows machines.

greetings and thanks,
simon

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Re: [tw] TiddlyWiki 5 accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Jeremy Ruston 
> I've started making the changes

The changes are in github in the "accessibility" branch:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/compare/accessibility

Best wishes

Jeremy


On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Jeremy Ruston 
wrote:

> Hi Simon,
>
> Thanks for the feedback. I've added a couple of points to the ticket.
>
> I've started making the changes by applying aria-label and title
> attributes to the view and edit toolbar buttons, and the three page
> controls. I'd be grateful if you could let me know how they work with the
> screen reader:
>
> http://tw5test.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> (Note that I've only addressed the toolbar buttons I mentioned, and
> haven't started the other updates).
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Simon Eigeldinger <
> simon.eigeldin...@vol.at> wrote:
>
>> hi Jeremy,
>>
>> got it working on my system.
>> currently using the code from the github repo.
>>
>> maybe the following would be a good idea to add to the current wiki:
>> 1 labeling all buttons with meaningful texts as talked before
>> 2 maybe labeling the … link for the search box with Search.
>> 3 labeling the × buttons with better text. maybe the word close.
>> 4 adding different aria roles as also written somewhere
>> 5 adding a heading level 1 tag for the beginning of each tiddler so you
>> can nicely jump to each tiddler.
>> maybe could faked with css to normal text if sighted people might not
>> like it all that much. *smile*
>> screenreaders have various commands to navigate to all different types of
>> elements like headings in various levels, buttons, links visited or not
>> visited, all kinds of other form fields, lists, aria roles, tables.
>>
>> cool would be if the points 1, 3 and 5 could be fixed in the next days or
>> so. i don't know how much work it is to label a few buttons in tw5's code.
>>
>> greetings,
>> simon
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 13.06.2014 12:08, schrieb Jeremy Ruston:
>>
>>  Hi Simon
>>>
>>>  as a blind person i thought let's see how it does using a screenreader.

>>>
>>> Terrific. I'm very keen to get TiddlyWiki working well with screenreaders
>>> (it's on the roadmap as "better ARIA support"). It would be great to get
>>> your feedback as we iterate the necessary improvements.
>>>
>>> Getting it working well is largely a matter of reviewing all the markup
>>> TW
>>> generates to ensure that it looks appropriate in the screenreader. I've
>>> added a ticket on GitHub for the issues that you mention here:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/650
>>>
>>> If you find any related issues please add a comment here or on the
>>> ticket.
>>>
>>>  btw how do i create a single page wiki from the source code? maybe

>>> soneone could tell me that step by step and tell me which dependencies i
>>> might need.
>>>
>>> You just need to install Node.js from nodejs.org, and then install
>>> TiddlyWiki itself with `npm install tiddlywiki`. Full instructions here:
>>>
>>> http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki%20on%20Node.js
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:56 AM,  wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi all,

 I just saw that TiddlyWiki 5 is around.
 as a blind person i thought let's see how it does using a screenreader.
 i have figured out that there are a bunch of unlabeled buttons so the
 screenreader just announces the word button and nothing more.
 maybe they just include a icon and no text.
 for example the buttons open, recent, tools, and more are labeled
 correctly.
 i also saw there are buttons which are just labeled with × so i don't
 know
 what those do either.

 would be cool if someone could label all the buttons which have no
 apropriate labels.

 btw how do i create a single page wiki from the source code? maybe
 soneone
 could tell me that step by step and tell me which dependencies i might
 need.


 i have linux and windows machines.

 greetings and thanks,
 simon

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Re: [tw] TiddlyWiki 5 accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Jeremy Ruston 
Hi Simon,

Thanks for the feedback. I've added a couple of points to the ticket.

I've started making the changes by applying aria-label and title attributes
to the view and edit toolbar buttons, and the three page controls. I'd be
grateful if you could let me know how they work with the screen reader:

http://tw5test.tiddlyspot.com/

(Note that I've only addressed the toolbar buttons I mentioned, and haven't
started the other updates).

Best wishes

Jeremy




On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Simon Eigeldinger  wrote:

> hi Jeremy,
>
> got it working on my system.
> currently using the code from the github repo.
>
> maybe the following would be a good idea to add to the current wiki:
> 1 labeling all buttons with meaningful texts as talked before
> 2 maybe labeling the … link for the search box with Search.
> 3 labeling the × buttons with better text. maybe the word close.
> 4 adding different aria roles as also written somewhere
> 5 adding a heading level 1 tag for the beginning of each tiddler so you
> can nicely jump to each tiddler.
> maybe could faked with css to normal text if sighted people might not like
> it all that much. *smile*
> screenreaders have various commands to navigate to all different types of
> elements like headings in various levels, buttons, links visited or not
> visited, all kinds of other form fields, lists, aria roles, tables.
>
> cool would be if the points 1, 3 and 5 could be fixed in the next days or
> so. i don't know how much work it is to label a few buttons in tw5's code.
>
> greetings,
> simon
>
>
>
>
> Am 13.06.2014 12:08, schrieb Jeremy Ruston:
>
>  Hi Simon
>>
>>  as a blind person i thought let's see how it does using a screenreader.
>>>
>>
>> Terrific. I'm very keen to get TiddlyWiki working well with screenreaders
>> (it's on the roadmap as "better ARIA support"). It would be great to get
>> your feedback as we iterate the necessary improvements.
>>
>> Getting it working well is largely a matter of reviewing all the markup TW
>> generates to ensure that it looks appropriate in the screenreader. I've
>> added a ticket on GitHub for the issues that you mention here:
>>
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/650
>>
>> If you find any related issues please add a comment here or on the ticket.
>>
>>  btw how do i create a single page wiki from the source code? maybe
>>>
>> soneone could tell me that step by step and tell me which dependencies i
>> might need.
>>
>> You just need to install Node.js from nodejs.org, and then install
>> TiddlyWiki itself with `npm install tiddlywiki`. Full instructions here:
>>
>> http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki%20on%20Node.js
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:56 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>  Hi all,
>>>
>>> I just saw that TiddlyWiki 5 is around.
>>> as a blind person i thought let's see how it does using a screenreader.
>>> i have figured out that there are a bunch of unlabeled buttons so the
>>> screenreader just announces the word button and nothing more.
>>> maybe they just include a icon and no text.
>>> for example the buttons open, recent, tools, and more are labeled
>>> correctly.
>>> i also saw there are buttons which are just labeled with × so i don't
>>> know
>>> what those do either.
>>>
>>> would be cool if someone could label all the buttons which have no
>>> apropriate labels.
>>>
>>> btw how do i create a single page wiki from the source code? maybe
>>> soneone
>>> could tell me that step by step and tell me which dependencies i might
>>> need.
>>>
>>>
>>> i have linux and windows machines.
>>>
>>> greetings and thanks,
>>> simon
>>>
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Re: [tw] TiddlyWiki 5 accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Simon Eigeldinger 

hi,

sorry. this hasn't done much it seems.


greetings,
simon


Am 14.06.2014 15:41, schrieb Birthe C:

Hi Simon

Knowing nothing about screenreaders, programming and all that. Do you think
hint text on the buttons would solve your problem?
Maybe you would like to try it out? In the link following I have tried to
put text on at least some of the buttons for tiddlercontrols and
pagecontrols.
The link is to an empty TW 5 from Tiddlywiki.com with the above mentioned
changes only.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22820223/EmptyTW5_5.0.12.html

Birthe
Sorry if I am totally misunderstanding.



On Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:38:47 AM UTC+2, Simon Eigeldinger wrote:


hi Jeremy,

got it working on my system.
currently using the code from the github repo.

maybe the following would be a good idea to add to the current wiki:
1 labeling all buttons with meaningful texts as talked before
2 maybe labeling the … link for the search box with Search.
3 labeling the × buttons with better text. maybe the word close.
4 adding different aria roles as also written somewhere
5 adding a heading level 1 tag for the beginning of each tiddler so you
can nicely jump to each tiddler.
maybe could faked with css to normal text if sighted people might not
like it all that much. *smile*
screenreaders have various commands to navigate to all different types
of elements like headings in various levels, buttons, links visited or
not visited, all kinds of other form fields, lists, aria roles, tables.

cool would be if the points 1, 3 and 5 could be fixed in the next days
or so. i don't know how much work it is to label a few buttons in tw5's
code.

greetings,
simon




Am 13.06.2014 12:08, schrieb Jeremy Ruston:

Hi Simon


as a blind person i thought let's see how it does using a screenreader.


Terrific. I'm very keen to get TiddlyWiki working well with

screenreaders

(it's on the roadmap as "better ARIA support"). It would be great to get
your feedback as we iterate the necessary improvements.

Getting it working well is largely a matter of reviewing all the markup

TW

generates to ensure that it looks appropriate in the screenreader. I've
added a ticket on GitHub for the issues that you mention here:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/650

If you find any related issues please add a comment here or on the

ticket.



btw how do i create a single page wiki from the source code? maybe

soneone could tell me that step by step and tell me which dependencies i
might need.

You just need to install Node.js from nodejs.org, and then install
TiddlyWiki itself with `npm install tiddlywiki`. Full instructions here:

http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki%20on%20Node.js

Best wishes

Jeremy



On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:56 AM, >

wrote:



Hi all,

I just saw that TiddlyWiki 5 is around.
as a blind person i thought let's see how it does using a screenreader.
i have figured out that there are a bunch of unlabeled buttons so the
screenreader just announces the word button and nothing more.
maybe they just include a icon and no text.
for example the buttons open, recent, tools, and more are labeled
correctly.
i also saw there are buttons which are just labeled with × so i don't

know

what those do either.

would be cool if someone could label all the buttons which have no
apropriate labels.

btw how do i create a single page wiki from the source code? maybe

soneone

could tell me that step by step and tell me which dependencies i might

need.



i have linux and windows machines.

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simon

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Re: [tw] TiddlyWiki 5 accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Birthe C 
Hi Simon

Knowing nothing about screenreaders, programming and all that. Do you think 
hint text on the buttons would solve your problem?
Maybe you would like to try it out? In the link following I have tried to 
put text on at least some of the buttons for tiddlercontrols and 
pagecontrols.
The link is to an empty TW 5 from Tiddlywiki.com with the above mentioned 
changes only.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22820223/EmptyTW5_5.0.12.html

Birthe
Sorry if I am totally misunderstanding.



On Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:38:47 AM UTC+2, Simon Eigeldinger wrote:
>
> hi Jeremy, 
>
> got it working on my system. 
> currently using the code from the github repo. 
>
> maybe the following would be a good idea to add to the current wiki: 
> 1 labeling all buttons with meaningful texts as talked before 
> 2 maybe labeling the … link for the search box with Search. 
> 3 labeling the × buttons with better text. maybe the word close. 
> 4 adding different aria roles as also written somewhere 
> 5 adding a heading level 1 tag for the beginning of each tiddler so you 
> can nicely jump to each tiddler. 
> maybe could faked with css to normal text if sighted people might not 
> like it all that much. *smile* 
> screenreaders have various commands to navigate to all different types 
> of elements like headings in various levels, buttons, links visited or 
> not visited, all kinds of other form fields, lists, aria roles, tables. 
>
> cool would be if the points 1, 3 and 5 could be fixed in the next days 
> or so. i don't know how much work it is to label a few buttons in tw5's 
> code. 
>
> greetings, 
> simon 
>
>
>
>
> Am 13.06.2014 12:08, schrieb Jeremy Ruston: 
> > Hi Simon 
> > 
> >> as a blind person i thought let's see how it does using a screenreader. 
> > 
> > Terrific. I'm very keen to get TiddlyWiki working well with 
> screenreaders 
> > (it's on the roadmap as "better ARIA support"). It would be great to get 
> > your feedback as we iterate the necessary improvements. 
> > 
> > Getting it working well is largely a matter of reviewing all the markup 
> TW 
> > generates to ensure that it looks appropriate in the screenreader. I've 
> > added a ticket on GitHub for the issues that you mention here: 
> > 
> > https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/650 
> > 
> > If you find any related issues please add a comment here or on the 
> ticket. 
> > 
> >> btw how do i create a single page wiki from the source code? maybe 
> > soneone could tell me that step by step and tell me which dependencies i 
> > might need. 
> > 
> > You just need to install Node.js from nodejs.org, and then install 
> > TiddlyWiki itself with `npm install tiddlywiki`. Full instructions here: 
> > 
> > http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki%20on%20Node.js 
> > 
> > Best wishes 
> > 
> > Jeremy 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:56 AM, > 
> wrote: 
> > 
> >> Hi all, 
> >> 
> >> I just saw that TiddlyWiki 5 is around. 
> >> as a blind person i thought let's see how it does using a screenreader. 
> >> i have figured out that there are a bunch of unlabeled buttons so the 
> >> screenreader just announces the word button and nothing more. 
> >> maybe they just include a icon and no text. 
> >> for example the buttons open, recent, tools, and more are labeled 
> >> correctly. 
> >> i also saw there are buttons which are just labeled with × so i don't 
> know 
> >> what those do either. 
> >> 
> >> would be cool if someone could label all the buttons which have no 
> >> apropriate labels. 
> >> 
> >> btw how do i create a single page wiki from the source code? maybe 
> soneone 
> >> could tell me that step by step and tell me which dependencies i might 
> need. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> i have linux and windows machines. 
> >> 
> >> greetings and thanks, 
> >> simon 
> >> 
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Re: [tw] TiddlyWiki 5 accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Simon Eigeldinger 

hi Jeremy,

got it working on my system.
currently using the code from the github repo.

maybe the following would be a good idea to add to the current wiki:
1 labeling all buttons with meaningful texts as talked before
2 maybe labeling the … link for the search box with Search.
3 labeling the × buttons with better text. maybe the word close.
4 adding different aria roles as also written somewhere
5 adding a heading level 1 tag for the beginning of each tiddler so you 
can nicely jump to each tiddler.
maybe could faked with css to normal text if sighted people might not 
like it all that much. *smile*
screenreaders have various commands to navigate to all different types 
of elements like headings in various levels, buttons, links visited or 
not visited, all kinds of other form fields, lists, aria roles, tables.


cool would be if the points 1, 3 and 5 could be fixed in the next days 
or so. i don't know how much work it is to label a few buttons in tw5's 
code.


greetings,
simon




Am 13.06.2014 12:08, schrieb Jeremy Ruston:

Hi Simon


as a blind person i thought let's see how it does using a screenreader.


Terrific. I'm very keen to get TiddlyWiki working well with screenreaders
(it's on the roadmap as "better ARIA support"). It would be great to get
your feedback as we iterate the necessary improvements.

Getting it working well is largely a matter of reviewing all the markup TW
generates to ensure that it looks appropriate in the screenreader. I've
added a ticket on GitHub for the issues that you mention here:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/650

If you find any related issues please add a comment here or on the ticket.


btw how do i create a single page wiki from the source code? maybe

soneone could tell me that step by step and tell me which dependencies i
might need.

You just need to install Node.js from nodejs.org, and then install
TiddlyWiki itself with `npm install tiddlywiki`. Full instructions here:

http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki%20on%20Node.js

Best wishes

Jeremy



On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:56 AM,  wrote:


Hi all,

I just saw that TiddlyWiki 5 is around.
as a blind person i thought let's see how it does using a screenreader.
i have figured out that there are a bunch of unlabeled buttons so the
screenreader just announces the word button and nothing more.
maybe they just include a icon and no text.
for example the buttons open, recent, tools, and more are labeled
correctly.
i also saw there are buttons which are just labeled with × so i don't know
what those do either.

would be cool if someone could label all the buttons which have no
apropriate labels.

btw how do i create a single page wiki from the source code? maybe soneone
could tell me that step by step and tell me which dependencies i might need.


i have linux and windows machines.

greetings and thanks,
simon

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Re: [tw] TiddlyWiki 5 accessibility

2014-06-13 Thread Jeremy Ruston 
Hi Simon

> as a blind person i thought let's see how it does using a screenreader.

Terrific. I'm very keen to get TiddlyWiki working well with screenreaders
(it's on the roadmap as "better ARIA support"). It would be great to get
your feedback as we iterate the necessary improvements.

Getting it working well is largely a matter of reviewing all the markup TW
generates to ensure that it looks appropriate in the screenreader. I've
added a ticket on GitHub for the issues that you mention here:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/650

If you find any related issues please add a comment here or on the ticket.

> btw how do i create a single page wiki from the source code? maybe
soneone could tell me that step by step and tell me which dependencies i
might need.

You just need to install Node.js from nodejs.org, and then install
TiddlyWiki itself with `npm install tiddlywiki`. Full instructions here:

http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki%20on%20Node.js

Best wishes

Jeremy



On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:56 AM,  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I just saw that TiddlyWiki 5 is around.
> as a blind person i thought let's see how it does using a screenreader.
> i have figured out that there are a bunch of unlabeled buttons so the
> screenreader just announces the word button and nothing more.
> maybe they just include a icon and no text.
> for example the buttons open, recent, tools, and more are labeled
> correctly.
> i also saw there are buttons which are just labeled with × so i don't know
> what those do either.
>
> would be cool if someone could label all the buttons which have no
> apropriate labels.
>
> btw how do i create a single page wiki from the source code? maybe soneone
> could tell me that step by step and tell me which dependencies i might need.
>
>
> i have linux and windows machines.
>
> greetings and thanks,
> simon
>
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[tw] TiddlyWiki 5 accessibility

2014-06-12 Thread simon.eigeldinger 

Hi all,

I just saw that TiddlyWiki 5 is around.
as a blind person i thought let's see how it does using a 
screenreader.
i have figured out that there are a bunch of unlabeled buttons so the 
screenreader just announces the word button and nothing more.

maybe they just include a icon and no text.
for example the buttons open, recent, tools, and more are labeled 
correctly.
i also saw there are buttons which are just labeled with × so i don't 
know what those do either.


would be cool if someone could label all the buttons which have no 
apropriate labels.


btw how do i create a single page wiki from the source code? maybe 
soneone could tell me that step by step and tell me which dependencies 
i might need.



i have linux and windows machines.

greetings and thanks,
simon

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