[tw5] Re: Two Alternatives to Tiddlyspot: 1. GitHub Pages 2. Google Drive

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Just to clarify, you can *save* to a private repository even without a paid 
account. 

You can achieve some level of privacy even on a public repository by 
encrypting your TW. You just have to make sure that every edition of your 
TW file is encrypted. Any un-encrypted commit is remembered by GH forever.
On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 10:34:51 AM UTC-8 Stobot wrote:

> Checking back in to close off from my side. Got it to work, two points 
> that might be worth adding / clarifying to the instructions:
> 1. I was using journal.html, instead of index.html, could probably make it 
> work, but gave up and went back to index.html
> 2. The page has to be public (or you have to have a paid account) to take 
> advantage of the rendering capabilities (aka github.io environment). Not 
> a big deal, but was setting up as a journal, so instinct was to make 
> private. 
>
> Thanks all here for the help. If somebody has any other ideas on reducing 
> the 409 errors further (or even a nicer "try again later" message or 
> something), let me know :)
>
> On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 12:30:55 PM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:
>
>>
>>> 2. For the 409 error - yes I saw your note, and in fact I've turned off 
>>> auto-save, for me it gives me the warning if saves are even minutes apart - 
>>> so I guess I'd have to study to see what frequency in saving it allows to 
>>> prevent the concurrency error, it must be a long time. 
>>>
>>
>> This error may be explained by Jeremy! but as much as I now the TW 
>> autosave try to save your wiki when you make a change like editing and 
>> saving a tiddler! I normally clear my username in GitHub Saver in Control 
>> Panel and using Tamimi lets to work all the time locally. As soon as I am 
>> finished I just put the user name and press Save Wiki! It updates my GitHub 
>> page! That is all.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mohammad
>>  
>>
>>>  
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Two Alternatives to Tiddlyspot: 1. GitHub Pages 2. Google Drive

[Dummy ME]

@stobot

>From what I can understand, I hosted the TW5 wiki directly on github and
saved it used Github Saver that is present in the wiki. It worked totally
fine.

I didn't have to pay for it. I think payment is only required when you keep
your repo private instead of public. If your repo is public, you can visit
your github pages by the link.

On Wed, 25 Nov, 2020, 1:00 am Mohammad,  wrote:

> Thank you! I will add to instruction.
>
> On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 10:04:51 PM UTC+3:30 Stobot wrote:
>
>> Checking back in to close off from my side. Got it to work, two points
>> that might be worth adding / clarifying to the instructions:
>> 1. I was using journal.html, instead of index.html, could probably make
>> it work, but gave up and went back to index.html
>> 2. The page has to be public (or you have to have a paid account) to take
>> advantage of the rendering capabilities (aka github.io environment). Not
>> a big deal, but was setting up as a journal, so instinct was to make
>> private.
>>
>> Thanks all here for the help. If somebody has any other ideas on reducing
>> the 409 errors further (or even a nicer "try again later" message or
>> something), let me know :)
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 12:30:55 PM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>>
 2. For the 409 error - yes I saw your note, and in fact I've turned off
 auto-save, for me it gives me the warning if saves are even minutes apart -
 so I guess I'd have to study to see what frequency in saving it allows to
 prevent the concurrency error, it must be a long time.

>>>
>>> This error may be explained by Jeremy! but as much as I now the TW
>>> autosave try to save your wiki when you make a change like editing and
>>> saving a tiddler! I normally clear my username in GitHub Saver in Control
>>> Panel and using Tamimi lets to work all the time locally. As soon as I am
>>> finished I just put the user name and press Save Wiki! It updates my GitHub
>>> page! That is all.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>


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[tw5] Re: Two Alternatives to Tiddlyspot: 1. GitHub Pages 2. Google Drive

[Mohammad]

Thank you! I will add to instruction.

On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 10:04:51 PM UTC+3:30 Stobot wrote:

> Checking back in to close off from my side. Got it to work, two points 
> that might be worth adding / clarifying to the instructions:
> 1. I was using journal.html, instead of index.html, could probably make it 
> work, but gave up and went back to index.html
> 2. The page has to be public (or you have to have a paid account) to take 
> advantage of the rendering capabilities (aka github.io environment). Not 
> a big deal, but was setting up as a journal, so instinct was to make 
> private. 
>
> Thanks all here for the help. If somebody has any other ideas on reducing 
> the 409 errors further (or even a nicer "try again later" message or 
> something), let me know :)
>
> On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 12:30:55 PM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:
>
>>
>>> 2. For the 409 error - yes I saw your note, and in fact I've turned off 
>>> auto-save, for me it gives me the warning if saves are even minutes apart - 
>>> so I guess I'd have to study to see what frequency in saving it allows to 
>>> prevent the concurrency error, it must be a long time. 
>>>
>>
>> This error may be explained by Jeremy! but as much as I now the TW 
>> autosave try to save your wiki when you make a change like editing and 
>> saving a tiddler! I normally clear my username in GitHub Saver in Control 
>> Panel and using Tamimi lets to work all the time locally. As soon as I am 
>> finished I just put the user name and press Save Wiki! It updates my GitHub 
>> page! That is all.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mohammad
>>  
>>
>>>  
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Two Alternatives to Tiddlyspot: 1. GitHub Pages 2. Google Drive

[Stobot]

Checking back in to close off from my side. Got it to work, two points that 
might be worth adding / clarifying to the instructions:
1. I was using journal.html, instead of index.html, could probably make it 
work, but gave up and went back to index.html
2. The page has to be public (or you have to have a paid account) to take 
advantage of the rendering capabilities (aka github.io environment). Not a 
big deal, but was setting up as a journal, so instinct was to make private. 

Thanks all here for the help. If somebody has any other ideas on reducing 
the 409 errors further (or even a nicer "try again later" message or 
something), let me know :)

On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 12:30:55 PM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:

>
>> 2. For the 409 error - yes I saw your note, and in fact I've turned off 
>> auto-save, for me it gives me the warning if saves are even minutes apart - 
>> so I guess I'd have to study to see what frequency in saving it allows to 
>> prevent the concurrency error, it must be a long time. 
>>
>
> This error may be explained by Jeremy! but as much as I now the TW 
> autosave try to save your wiki when you make a change like editing and 
> saving a tiddler! I normally clear my username in GitHub Saver in Control 
> Panel and using Tamimi lets to work all the time locally. As soon as I am 
> finished I just put the user name and press Save Wiki! It updates my GitHub 
> page! That is all.
>
> Cheers
> Mohammad
>  
>
>>  
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Two Alternatives to Tiddlyspot: 1. GitHub Pages 2. Google Drive

[Mohammad]

>
>
> 2. For the 409 error - yes I saw your note, and in fact I've turned off 
> auto-save, for me it gives me the warning if saves are even minutes apart - 
> so I guess I'd have to study to see what frequency in saving it allows to 
> prevent the concurrency error, it must be a long time. 
>

This error may be explained by Jeremy! but as much as I now the TW autosave 
try to save your wiki when you make a change like editing and saving a 
tiddler! I normally clear my username in GitHub Saver in Control Panel and 
using Tamimi lets to work all the time locally. As soon as I am finished I 
just put the user name and press Save Wiki! It updates my GitHub page! That 
is all.

Cheers
Mohammad
 

>  
>

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[tw5] Re: Two Alternatives to Tiddlyspot: 1. GitHub Pages 2. Google Drive

[Mohammad]

Yes, GitHub is for programmer, so getting used to it takes a little time. 
But I am sure you will overcome all these issues.
The tutorial you have used is a TW+GitHub page, so yes you can setup a 
whole website with multi wikis with single web address and let any reader 
just know the address visit your pages no worry at all.

I use public repo and free GitHub services! but you can have private repo! 
as much as I know GitHub pages work for public repo.


On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 8:49:29 PM UTC+3:30 Stobot wrote:

> Sorry, want to make sure you know regarding the 2 things I didn't respond 
> to just-now
>
> 1. In the repo settings at the bottom it says GitHub Pages where is says 
> "Upgrade to make this repository public to enable Pages" with an Upgrade 
> button. Is there *another* way to enable pages I'm not seeing?
> 2. For the 409 error - yes I saw your note, and in fact I've turned off 
> auto-save, for me it gives me the warning if saves are even minutes apart - 
> so I guess I'd have to study to see what frequency in saving it allows to 
> prevent the concurrency error, it must be a long time. 
>
> On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 12:13:56 PM UTC-5 Stobot wrote:
>
>> Thanks Mohammad - you've given me hope that I'm just missing something 
>> simple then. Are you saying that there's a way to get to my wiki - say 
>> index.html via a url? Sorry, this is my first time using github...
>>
>> From the repo clicking on the file name (index.html) it takes me to 
>> https://github.com///blob/main/index.html but from there 
>> I only see a download and delete button. How do I open the file in a 
>> rendered state?
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Two Alternatives to Tiddlyspot: 1. GitHub Pages 2. Google Drive

[Stobot]

Sorry, want to make sure you know regarding the 2 things I didn't respond 
to just-now

1. In the repo settings at the bottom it says GitHub Pages where is says 
"Upgrade to make this repository public to enable Pages" with an Upgrade 
button. Is there *another* way to enable pages I'm not seeing?
2. For the 409 error - yes I saw your note, and in fact I've turned off 
auto-save, for me it gives me the warning if saves are even minutes apart - 
so I guess I'd have to study to see what frequency in saving it allows to 
prevent the concurrency error, it must be a long time. 

On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 12:13:56 PM UTC-5 Stobot wrote:

> Thanks Mohammad - you've given me hope that I'm just missing something 
> simple then. Are you saying that there's a way to get to my wiki - say 
> index.html via a url? Sorry, this is my first time using github...
>
> From the repo clicking on the file name (index.html) it takes me to 
> https://github.com///blob/main/index.html but from there 
> I only see a download and delete button. How do I open the file in a 
> rendered state?
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Two Alternatives to Tiddlyspot: 1. GitHub Pages 2. Google Drive

[Stobot]

Thanks Mohammad - you've given me hope that I'm just missing something 
simple then. Are you saying that there's a way to get to my wiki - say 
index.html via a url? Sorry, this is my first time using github...

>From the repo clicking on the file name (index.html) it takes me to 
https://github.com///blob/main/index.html but from there I 
only see a download and delete button. How do I open the file in a rendered 
state?

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[tw5] Re: Two Alternatives to Tiddlyspot: 1. GitHub Pages 2. Google Drive

[Mohammad]

Stobot, sorry for misspelling your name

On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 8:28:43 PM UTC+3:30 Mohammad wrote:

> Sobot,
>  You may know when opening a Tiddlywiki from cloud eg Tiddlyspot or any 
> other host, you actually download it to your computer. So you have a single 
> file in your browser. The GitHub Page + Tiddlywiki lets you to save 
> directly back to GitHub like Tiddlyspot.  For this functionality there is 
> no need to use paid service from GitHub!
>
> When 409 error is seen?Not confirmed, but seems when the auto save is 
> turned on or when click the save button repeatedly it is appeared! 409 
> Conflict is to reveal a concurrency problem in competing updates  
>
> Good luck 
>
> On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 7:30:15 PM UTC+3:30 Stobot wrote:
>
>> Thanks all for the discussion. I'm struggling through trying to replace 
>> Tiddlyspot functionality... Spent some time figuring out the github thing - 
>> did finally get it to save (sporadically anyways - frequent 409s). I didn't 
>> do the "pages" part as that was a paid upgrade. So is my understanding 
>> right:
>>
>> Without the paid "pages" part, I can setup a file that will indeed push 
>> up to github, but it then doesn't appear to save the file locally - so it's 
>> one or the other? For each "session" I'd have to download from github, work 
>> and save, then discard the local version and start again next session? 
>> Seems like a rough workflow...
>>
>> If I paid for the "pages" part - would it then more work like TiddlySpot 
>> where I wouldn't need the local file, and I could use the actual online url 
>> from any computer?
>> On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 10:19:58 AM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> Tiddlyspot.com has closed its free services for hosting Tiddlywiki and 
>>> there are alot of Tiddlywiki files on Tiddlyspot.com which cannot be edited 
>>> / maintained anymore.
>>>
>>> Fortunately Tiddlywiki is enough flexible to be able to switch to 
>>> alternatives very quickly. Here, there are two alternatives
>>>
>>> *GitHub Pages*
>>> This is the recommended method, it needs like one hour, to set up your 
>>> new account on https://github.com/ and host your Tiddlywiki using 
>>> GitHub Pages. You can build a whole website using this method. It is 
>>> possible to maintain the page as a collaborative work (but needs a little 
>>> more efforts)
>>>
>>> *1. Tiddlywiki older than TW 5.1.20*
>>> If you have an old Tiddlywiki and insisted to publish it, then use the 
>>> instruction in this tutorial 
>>> https://kookma.github.io/Tiddlywiki-and-GitHub-Pages/
>>> read carefully the *instruction *tiddler.
>>>
>>> *2. Tiddlywiki based on release 5.1.20 and newer [recommended]*
>>> If you have a Tiddlywiki based on release 5.1.20 or newer, or you can 
>>> upgrade your old Tiddlywiki, then use the instruction has been given here: 
>>> https://kookma.github.io/TW5-GitHub-Saver/
>>> This method is simpler, straight forward and better for non-tech people.
>>>
>>> *The published Tiddlywiki on GitHub can be accessed by any viewer has 
>>> the site URL and a rather new browser!*
>>>
>>> *Google Drive [The simplest - Limited to Android Users ]*
>>> Tiddloid (https://github.com/donmor/Tiddloid) and TiddloidLite (
>>> https://github.com/donmor/TiddloidLite) are two freely distributed 
>>> Android Apps can be installed on an Android device (phone/tablet) It can 
>>> simply create a Tiddlywiki (or any number of wiki you like) on Google Drive 
>>> the same way you create a new one on your local disk. You can open your 
>>> wiki using Tiddloid and edit it and save back to Drive.
>>>
>>> The Tiddloid works simply and any non-tech user can host his/her 
>>> Tiddlywiki on Google Drive. 
>>>
>>> 1. If your audiences have Tiddloid you can give access to them from 
>>> Google Drive
>>> 2.  If you want to share to anyone who has not Tiddloid you can share it 
>>> but viewer has to download and then open the Tiddlywiki, the browser does 
>>> not open directly Tiddlywiki from Google Drive
>>> NOTE: *The hosted Tiddlywiki on Google Drive can be accessed by any  
>>> other viewer  has the site url . You need  to distribute the link to 
>>> viewers (See  Share Files from Google Drive 
>>> )*
>>>
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Two Alternatives to Tiddlyspot: 1. GitHub Pages 2. Google Drive

[Mohammad]

Sobot,
 You may know when opening a Tiddlywiki from cloud eg Tiddlyspot or any 
other host, you actually download it to your computer. So you have a single 
file in your browser. The GitHub Page + Tiddlywiki lets you to save 
directly back to GitHub like Tiddlyspot.  For this functionality there is 
no need to use paid service from GitHub!

When 409 error is seen?Not confirmed, but seems when the auto save is 
turned on or when click the save button repeatedly it is appeared! 409 
Conflict is to reveal a concurrency problem in competing updates  

Good luck 

On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 7:30:15 PM UTC+3:30 Stobot wrote:

> Thanks all for the discussion. I'm struggling through trying to replace 
> Tiddlyspot functionality... Spent some time figuring out the github thing - 
> did finally get it to save (sporadically anyways - frequent 409s). I didn't 
> do the "pages" part as that was a paid upgrade. So is my understanding 
> right:
>
> Without the paid "pages" part, I can setup a file that will indeed push up 
> to github, but it then doesn't appear to save the file locally - so it's 
> one or the other? For each "session" I'd have to download from github, work 
> and save, then discard the local version and start again next session? 
> Seems like a rough workflow...
>
> If I paid for the "pages" part - would it then more work like TiddlySpot 
> where I wouldn't need the local file, and I could use the actual online url 
> from any computer?
> On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 10:19:58 AM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Tiddlyspot.com has closed its free services for hosting Tiddlywiki and 
>> there are alot of Tiddlywiki files on Tiddlyspot.com which cannot be edited 
>> / maintained anymore.
>>
>> Fortunately Tiddlywiki is enough flexible to be able to switch to 
>> alternatives very quickly. Here, there are two alternatives
>>
>> *GitHub Pages*
>> This is the recommended method, it needs like one hour, to set up your 
>> new account on https://github.com/ and host your Tiddlywiki using GitHub 
>> Pages. You can build a whole website using this method. It is possible to 
>> maintain the page as a collaborative work (but needs a little more efforts)
>>
>> *1. Tiddlywiki older than TW 5.1.20*
>> If you have an old Tiddlywiki and insisted to publish it, then use the 
>> instruction in this tutorial 
>> https://kookma.github.io/Tiddlywiki-and-GitHub-Pages/
>> read carefully the *instruction *tiddler.
>>
>> *2. Tiddlywiki based on release 5.1.20 and newer [recommended]*
>> If you have a Tiddlywiki based on release 5.1.20 or newer, or you can 
>> upgrade your old Tiddlywiki, then use the instruction has been given here: 
>> https://kookma.github.io/TW5-GitHub-Saver/
>> This method is simpler, straight forward and better for non-tech people.
>>
>> *The published Tiddlywiki on GitHub can be accessed by any viewer has the 
>> site URL and a rather new browser!*
>>
>> *Google Drive [The simplest - Limited to Android Users ]*
>> Tiddloid (https://github.com/donmor/Tiddloid) and TiddloidLite (
>> https://github.com/donmor/TiddloidLite) are two freely distributed 
>> Android Apps can be installed on an Android device (phone/tablet) It can 
>> simply create a Tiddlywiki (or any number of wiki you like) on Google Drive 
>> the same way you create a new one on your local disk. You can open your 
>> wiki using Tiddloid and edit it and save back to Drive.
>>
>> The Tiddloid works simply and any non-tech user can host his/her 
>> Tiddlywiki on Google Drive. 
>>
>> 1. If your audiences have Tiddloid you can give access to them from 
>> Google Drive
>> 2.  If you want to share to anyone who has not Tiddloid you can share it 
>> but viewer has to download and then open the Tiddlywiki, the browser does 
>> not open directly Tiddlywiki from Google Drive
>> NOTE: *The hosted Tiddlywiki on Google Drive can be accessed by any  
>> other viewer  has the site url . You need  to distribute the link to 
>> viewers (See  Share Files from Google Drive 
>> )*
>>
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Two Alternatives to Tiddlyspot: 1. GitHub Pages 2. Google Drive

[Stobot]

Thanks all for the discussion. I'm struggling through trying to replace 
Tiddlyspot functionality... Spent some time figuring out the github thing - 
did finally get it to save (sporadically anyways - frequent 409s). I didn't 
do the "pages" part as that was a paid upgrade. So is my understanding 
right:

Without the paid "pages" part, I can setup a file that will indeed push up 
to github, but it then doesn't appear to save the file locally - so it's 
one or the other? For each "session" I'd have to download from github, work 
and save, then discard the local version and start again next session? 
Seems like a rough workflow...

If I paid for the "pages" part - would it then more work like TiddlySpot 
where I wouldn't need the local file, and I could use the actual online url 
from any computer?
On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 10:19:58 AM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:

> Tiddlyspot.com has closed its free services for hosting Tiddlywiki and 
> there are alot of Tiddlywiki files on Tiddlyspot.com which cannot be edited 
> / maintained anymore.
>
> Fortunately Tiddlywiki is enough flexible to be able to switch to 
> alternatives very quickly. Here, there are two alternatives
>
> *GitHub Pages*
> This is the recommended method, it needs like one hour, to set up your new 
> account on https://github.com/ and host your Tiddlywiki using GitHub 
> Pages. You can build a whole website using this method. It is possible to 
> maintain the page as a collaborative work (but needs a little more efforts)
>
> *1. Tiddlywiki older than TW 5.1.20*
> If you have an old Tiddlywiki and insisted to publish it, then use the 
> instruction in this tutorial 
> https://kookma.github.io/Tiddlywiki-and-GitHub-Pages/
> read carefully the *instruction *tiddler.
>
> *2. Tiddlywiki based on release 5.1.20 and newer [recommended]*
> If you have a Tiddlywiki based on release 5.1.20 or newer, or you can 
> upgrade your old Tiddlywiki, then use the instruction has been given here: 
> https://kookma.github.io/TW5-GitHub-Saver/
> This method is simpler, straight forward and better for non-tech people.
>
> *The published Tiddlywiki on GitHub can be accessed by any viewer has the 
> site URL and a rather new browser!*
>
> *Google Drive [The simplest - Limited to Android Users ]*
> Tiddloid (https://github.com/donmor/Tiddloid) and TiddloidLite (
> https://github.com/donmor/TiddloidLite) are two freely distributed 
> Android Apps can be installed on an Android device (phone/tablet) It can 
> simply create a Tiddlywiki (or any number of wiki you like) on Google Drive 
> the same way you create a new one on your local disk. You can open your 
> wiki using Tiddloid and edit it and save back to Drive.
>
> The Tiddloid works simply and any non-tech user can host his/her 
> Tiddlywiki on Google Drive. 
>
> 1. If your audiences have Tiddloid you can give access to them from Google 
> Drive
> 2.  If you want to share to anyone who has not Tiddloid you can share it 
> but viewer has to download and then open the Tiddlywiki, the browser does 
> not open directly Tiddlywiki from Google Drive
> NOTE: *The hosted Tiddlywiki on Google Drive can be accessed by any  
> other viewer  has the site url . You need  to distribute the link to 
> viewers (See  Share Files from Google Drive 
> )*
>
>
> --Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: Two Alternatives to Tiddlyspot: 1. GitHub Pages 2. Google Drive

[Mohammad]

Hi Springer,
 To check the step by step tutorial, I created a test repo and everything 
went well. So I am almost confident the tutorial should work.
 I may recommend to create a new Token and try again. The main branch is 
main and NOT master.

Give another try and let me know.

Mohammad

On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 5:39:18 PM UTC+3:30 springer wrote:

> Mohammad, alas that is not the issue either; I had already tried entering 
> "master" and "main" as well as leaving the branch field blank in my 
> settings. I also tried creating a /wiki/ folder in case that would make a 
> difference. For what it's worth, I just tried downloading a fresh empty 
> tw5, and saving to github (with same credentials). 401 always. So it must 
> be something about my GitHub account or how it's handling authorization 
> tokens (though I've also tried with my overall GitHub password, with no 
> luck). I'm not trying to treat tw google groups as GitHub tech support, but 
> I'm following up here partly in case others run into the same issue. And of 
> course I'll follow up with another post if I resolve the problem.
> -Springer
> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 11:10:20 AM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Springer,
>>  I checked the tutorial and also you repo on GitHub at 
>> https://github.com/springerspandrel/tw
>> If you note your repo is in main branch instead of master branch.
>>
>> So, in Tiddlywiki (your index.html) for target branch for saving enter 
>> main instead of master.
>>
>>
>> Saving is a little slow.
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 3:45:06 PM UTC+3:30 springer wrote:
>>
>>> Mohammad, thanks for following up. I do understand that the 401 error 
>>> reflects a problem with authorization, and that's why I clarified (in my 
>>> post) that I *had* attempted to follow your tutorial, including the steps 
>>> to create the personal access token (with repo and gist permissions), and 
>>> even tried doing those steps a second time once the first failed. Clearly, 
>>> something is not right, but it seems to be something not addressed in the 
>>> tutorial (or something that is there, but which I somehow failed to 
>>> register, because of my total unfamiliarity with github). I'll try again 
>>> when I have another hour to spare.
>>> -Springer
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 12:15:37 AM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:
>>>
 Hello Springer,
  Check the FAQ in tutorial

 https://kookma.github.io/TW5-GitHub-Saver/#FAQ

 Best
 Mohammad

 On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 2:52:05 AM UTC+3:30 springer wrote:

> Mohammad (and other github folks),
>
> I tremendously appreciate the TW5-GitHub-Saver tutorial that you've 
> shared for "non-tech people"...
>
> (Victor, TiddlyDrive with GDrive is indeed almost as convenient as 
> tiddlyspot for editing my own projects, but it doesn't seem to function 
> as 
> a public-facing server, right? So in that respect it doesn't come close 
> to 
> filling tiddlyspot's shoes.)
>
> Even with your essential GitHub TW5 tutorial, it's been slow for me to 
> wade through the github jargon. I finally got to the point where my 
> sample 
> uploaded tw file is properly served up via its new github url (which I 
> can 
> share, in case it helps with troubleshooting): 
> http://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/index.html
>
> I also generated a password token through github, and set up the 
> Control Panel > Save > GitHub fields in accord with tutorial:
>
> >Open the index.html from step 2 and from $:/ControlPanel 
> , 
> *GitHub 
>  Saver* tab fill 
> out the required information
>
>- >Username=the username for the Git service account
>- >Password=access token
>- >Target repository=the repo name from step 3 
>(e.g. kookma/reponame
>- >Target branch=use default (master)
>- >path=use default (/)
>- >filename=index.html
>
> But now any attempt to save (tried on GC, FF, and Safari) ends with 
> "Error while saving: XMLHttpRequest error code: 401" ... I went down a 
> rabbit-hole of wondering whether I need to create a "gist" (since you 
> mention gist, alongside repo, in connection with authentication details), 
> but I'm clearly wasting my time. I've tried working with an alternate 
> github OAUTH access token, as well as using my overall github password.
>
> And I'm afraid I've now squandered far more than my budgeted hour away 
> from my actual job. Any tips?
>
> Thanks to all, and especially to Mohammad!
>
> -Springer
>
> On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 1:06:31 PM UTC-5 Victor Dorneanu wrote:
>
>> There is also Tiddlydrive : Edit 
>> tiddlywiki 

[tw5] Re: Two Alternatives to Tiddlyspot: 1. GitHub Pages 2. Google Drive

[springer]

Mohammad, alas that is not the issue either; I had already tried entering 
"master" and "main" as well as leaving the branch field blank in my 
settings. I also tried creating a /wiki/ folder in case that would make a 
difference. For what it's worth, I just tried downloading a fresh empty 
tw5, and saving to github (with same credentials). 401 always. So it must 
be something about my GitHub account or how it's handling authorization 
tokens (though I've also tried with my overall GitHub password, with no 
luck). I'm not trying to treat tw google groups as GitHub tech support, but 
I'm following up here partly in case others run into the same issue. And of 
course I'll follow up with another post if I resolve the problem.
-Springer
On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 11:10:20 AM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:

> Springer,
>  I checked the tutorial and also you repo on GitHub at 
> https://github.com/springerspandrel/tw
> If you note your repo is in main branch instead of master branch.
>
> So, in Tiddlywiki (your index.html) for target branch for saving enter 
> main instead of master.
>
>
> Saving is a little slow.
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 3:45:06 PM UTC+3:30 springer wrote:
>
>> Mohammad, thanks for following up. I do understand that the 401 error 
>> reflects a problem with authorization, and that's why I clarified (in my 
>> post) that I *had* attempted to follow your tutorial, including the steps 
>> to create the personal access token (with repo and gist permissions), and 
>> even tried doing those steps a second time once the first failed. Clearly, 
>> something is not right, but it seems to be something not addressed in the 
>> tutorial (or something that is there, but which I somehow failed to 
>> register, because of my total unfamiliarity with github). I'll try again 
>> when I have another hour to spare.
>> -Springer
>>
>> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 12:15:37 AM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Springer,
>>>  Check the FAQ in tutorial
>>>
>>> https://kookma.github.io/TW5-GitHub-Saver/#FAQ
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 2:52:05 AM UTC+3:30 springer wrote:
>>>
 Mohammad (and other github folks),

 I tremendously appreciate the TW5-GitHub-Saver tutorial that you've 
 shared for "non-tech people"...

 (Victor, TiddlyDrive with GDrive is indeed almost as convenient as 
 tiddlyspot for editing my own projects, but it doesn't seem to function as 
 a public-facing server, right? So in that respect it doesn't come close to 
 filling tiddlyspot's shoes.)

 Even with your essential GitHub TW5 tutorial, it's been slow for me to 
 wade through the github jargon. I finally got to the point where my sample 
 uploaded tw file is properly served up via its new github url (which I can 
 share, in case it helps with troubleshooting): 
 http://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/index.html

 I also generated a password token through github, and set up the 
 Control Panel > Save > GitHub fields in accord with tutorial:

 >Open the index.html from step 2 and from $:/ControlPanel 
 , 
 *GitHub 
  Saver* tab fill 
 out the required information

- >Username=the username for the Git service account
- >Password=access token
- >Target repository=the repo name from step 3 (e.g. kookma/reponame
- >Target branch=use default (master)
- >path=use default (/)
- >filename=index.html

 But now any attempt to save (tried on GC, FF, and Safari) ends with 
 "Error while saving: XMLHttpRequest error code: 401" ... I went down a 
 rabbit-hole of wondering whether I need to create a "gist" (since you 
 mention gist, alongside repo, in connection with authentication details), 
 but I'm clearly wasting my time. I've tried working with an alternate 
 github OAUTH access token, as well as using my overall github password.

 And I'm afraid I've now squandered far more than my budgeted hour away 
 from my actual job. Any tips?

 Thanks to all, and especially to Mohammad!

 -Springer

 On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 1:06:31 PM UTC-5 Victor Dorneanu wrote:

> There is also Tiddlydrive : Edit 
> tiddlywiki files directly on Google Drive. And by using multcloud 
>  you can export your Tiddlywiki to 
> different cloud storage providers (e.g. AWS S3). 
>
> Victor
>
> On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 4:19:58 PM UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>
 ...*GitHub Pages*
>> This is the recommended method, it needs like one hour, to set up 
>> your new account on https://github.com/ and host your Tiddlywiki 
>> using GitHub Pages...
>> ...
>>
> *2. 

[tw5] Re: Two Alternatives to Tiddlyspot: 1. GitHub Pages 2. Google Drive

[Mohammad]

It seems GitHub has changed its default branch from master to main
https://www.zdnet.com/article/github-to-replace-master-with-main-starting-next-month/

@Jeremy
The documentation for saving to Git Service shall be modified. See 
https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Saving%20to%20a%20Git%20service

master --> main

--Mohammad

On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 3:45:06 PM UTC+3:30 springer wrote:

> Mohammad, thanks for following up. I do understand that the 401 error 
> reflects a problem with authorization, and that's why I clarified (in my 
> post) that I *had* attempted to follow your tutorial, including the steps 
> to create the personal access token (with repo and gist permissions), and 
> even tried doing those steps a second time once the first failed. Clearly, 
> something is not right, but it seems to be something not addressed in the 
> tutorial (or something that is there, but which I somehow failed to 
> register, because of my total unfamiliarity with github). I'll try again 
> when I have another hour to spare.
> -Springer
>
> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 12:15:37 AM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Hello Springer,
>>  Check the FAQ in tutorial
>>
>> https://kookma.github.io/TW5-GitHub-Saver/#FAQ
>>
>> Best
>> Mohammad
>>
>> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 2:52:05 AM UTC+3:30 springer wrote:
>>
>>> Mohammad (and other github folks),
>>>
>>> I tremendously appreciate the TW5-GitHub-Saver tutorial that you've 
>>> shared for "non-tech people"...
>>>
>>> (Victor, TiddlyDrive with GDrive is indeed almost as convenient as 
>>> tiddlyspot for editing my own projects, but it doesn't seem to function as 
>>> a public-facing server, right? So in that respect it doesn't come close to 
>>> filling tiddlyspot's shoes.)
>>>
>>> Even with your essential GitHub TW5 tutorial, it's been slow for me to 
>>> wade through the github jargon. I finally got to the point where my sample 
>>> uploaded tw file is properly served up via its new github url (which I can 
>>> share, in case it helps with troubleshooting): 
>>> http://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/index.html
>>>
>>> I also generated a password token through github, and set up the Control 
>>> Panel > Save > GitHub fields in accord with tutorial:
>>>
>>> >Open the index.html from step 2 and from $:/ControlPanel 
>>> , *GitHub 
>>>  Saver* tab fill out 
>>> the required information
>>>
>>>- >Username=the username for the Git service account
>>>- >Password=access token
>>>- >Target repository=the repo name from step 3 (e.g. kookma/reponame
>>>- >Target branch=use default (master)
>>>- >path=use default (/)
>>>- >filename=index.html
>>>
>>> But now any attempt to save (tried on GC, FF, and Safari) ends with 
>>> "Error while saving: XMLHttpRequest error code: 401" ... I went down a 
>>> rabbit-hole of wondering whether I need to create a "gist" (since you 
>>> mention gist, alongside repo, in connection with authentication details), 
>>> but I'm clearly wasting my time. I've tried working with an alternate 
>>> github OAUTH access token, as well as using my overall github password.
>>>
>>> And I'm afraid I've now squandered far more than my budgeted hour away 
>>> from my actual job. Any tips?
>>>
>>> Thanks to all, and especially to Mohammad!
>>>
>>> -Springer
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 1:06:31 PM UTC-5 Victor Dorneanu wrote:
>>>
 There is also Tiddlydrive : Edit 
 tiddlywiki files directly on Google Drive. And by using multcloud 
  you can export your Tiddlywiki to 
 different cloud storage providers (e.g. AWS S3). 

 Victor

 On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 4:19:58 PM UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:

>>> ...*GitHub Pages*
> This is the recommended method, it needs like one hour, to set up your 
> new account on https://github.com/ and host your Tiddlywiki using 
> GitHub Pages...
> ...
>
 *2. Tiddlywiki based on release 5.1.20 and newer [recommended]*
>
 ... instruction has been given here: 
> https://kookma.github.io/TW5-GitHub-Saver/
>
 This method is simpler, straight forward and better for non-tech people.
>
> *The published Tiddlywiki on GitHub can be accessed by any viewer has 
> the site URL and a rather new browser!*
>
 ...
> --Mohammad
>


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[tw5] Re: Two Alternatives to Tiddlyspot: 1. GitHub Pages 2. Google Drive

[Mohammad]

Springer,
 I checked the tutorial and also you repo on GitHub 
at https://github.com/springerspandrel/tw
If you note your repo is in main branch instead of master branch.

So, in Tiddlywiki (your index.html) for target branch for saving enter main 
instead of master.


Saving is a little slow.

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 3:45:06 PM UTC+3:30 springer wrote:

> Mohammad, thanks for following up. I do understand that the 401 error 
> reflects a problem with authorization, and that's why I clarified (in my 
> post) that I *had* attempted to follow your tutorial, including the steps 
> to create the personal access token (with repo and gist permissions), and 
> even tried doing those steps a second time once the first failed. Clearly, 
> something is not right, but it seems to be something not addressed in the 
> tutorial (or something that is there, but which I somehow failed to 
> register, because of my total unfamiliarity with github). I'll try again 
> when I have another hour to spare.
> -Springer
>
> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 12:15:37 AM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Hello Springer,
>>  Check the FAQ in tutorial
>>
>> https://kookma.github.io/TW5-GitHub-Saver/#FAQ
>>
>> Best
>> Mohammad
>>
>> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 2:52:05 AM UTC+3:30 springer wrote:
>>
>>> Mohammad (and other github folks),
>>>
>>> I tremendously appreciate the TW5-GitHub-Saver tutorial that you've 
>>> shared for "non-tech people"...
>>>
>>> (Victor, TiddlyDrive with GDrive is indeed almost as convenient as 
>>> tiddlyspot for editing my own projects, but it doesn't seem to function as 
>>> a public-facing server, right? So in that respect it doesn't come close to 
>>> filling tiddlyspot's shoes.)
>>>
>>> Even with your essential GitHub TW5 tutorial, it's been slow for me to 
>>> wade through the github jargon. I finally got to the point where my sample 
>>> uploaded tw file is properly served up via its new github url (which I can 
>>> share, in case it helps with troubleshooting): 
>>> http://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/index.html
>>>
>>> I also generated a password token through github, and set up the Control 
>>> Panel > Save > GitHub fields in accord with tutorial:
>>>
>>> >Open the index.html from step 2 and from $:/ControlPanel 
>>> , *GitHub 
>>>  Saver* tab fill out 
>>> the required information
>>>
>>>- >Username=the username for the Git service account
>>>- >Password=access token
>>>- >Target repository=the repo name from step 3 (e.g. kookma/reponame
>>>- >Target branch=use default (master)
>>>- >path=use default (/)
>>>- >filename=index.html
>>>
>>> But now any attempt to save (tried on GC, FF, and Safari) ends with 
>>> "Error while saving: XMLHttpRequest error code: 401" ... I went down a 
>>> rabbit-hole of wondering whether I need to create a "gist" (since you 
>>> mention gist, alongside repo, in connection with authentication details), 
>>> but I'm clearly wasting my time. I've tried working with an alternate 
>>> github OAUTH access token, as well as using my overall github password.
>>>
>>> And I'm afraid I've now squandered far more than my budgeted hour away 
>>> from my actual job. Any tips?
>>>
>>> Thanks to all, and especially to Mohammad!
>>>
>>> -Springer
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 1:06:31 PM UTC-5 Victor Dorneanu wrote:
>>>
 There is also Tiddlydrive : Edit 
 tiddlywiki files directly on Google Drive. And by using multcloud 
  you can export your Tiddlywiki to 
 different cloud storage providers (e.g. AWS S3). 

 Victor

 On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 4:19:58 PM UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:

>>> ...*GitHub Pages*
> This is the recommended method, it needs like one hour, to set up your 
> new account on https://github.com/ and host your Tiddlywiki using 
> GitHub Pages...
> ...
>
 *2. Tiddlywiki based on release 5.1.20 and newer [recommended]*
>
 ... instruction has been given here: 
> https://kookma.github.io/TW5-GitHub-Saver/
>
 This method is simpler, straight forward and better for non-tech people.
>
> *The published Tiddlywiki on GitHub can be accessed by any viewer has 
> the site URL and a rather new browser!*
>
 ...
> --Mohammad
>


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[tw5] Re: Two Alternatives to Tiddlyspot: 1. GitHub Pages 2. Google Drive

[springer]

Mohammad, thanks for following up. I do understand that the 401 error 
reflects a problem with authorization, and that's why I clarified (in my 
post) that I *had* attempted to follow your tutorial, including the steps 
to create the personal access token (with repo and gist permissions), and 
even tried doing those steps a second time once the first failed. Clearly, 
something is not right, but it seems to be something not addressed in the 
tutorial (or something that is there, but which I somehow failed to 
register, because of my total unfamiliarity with github). I'll try again 
when I have another hour to spare.
-Springer

On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 12:15:37 AM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:

> Hello Springer,
>  Check the FAQ in tutorial
>
> https://kookma.github.io/TW5-GitHub-Saver/#FAQ
>
> Best
> Mohammad
>
> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 2:52:05 AM UTC+3:30 springer wrote:
>
>> Mohammad (and other github folks),
>>
>> I tremendously appreciate the TW5-GitHub-Saver tutorial that you've 
>> shared for "non-tech people"...
>>
>> (Victor, TiddlyDrive with GDrive is indeed almost as convenient as 
>> tiddlyspot for editing my own projects, but it doesn't seem to function as 
>> a public-facing server, right? So in that respect it doesn't come close to 
>> filling tiddlyspot's shoes.)
>>
>> Even with your essential GitHub TW5 tutorial, it's been slow for me to 
>> wade through the github jargon. I finally got to the point where my sample 
>> uploaded tw file is properly served up via its new github url (which I can 
>> share, in case it helps with troubleshooting): 
>> http://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/index.html
>>
>> I also generated a password token through github, and set up the Control 
>> Panel > Save > GitHub fields in accord with tutorial:
>>
>> >Open the index.html from step 2 and from $:/ControlPanel 
>> , *GitHub 
>>  Saver* tab fill out 
>> the required information
>>
>>- >Username=the username for the Git service account
>>- >Password=access token
>>- >Target repository=the repo name from step 3 (e.g. kookma/reponame
>>- >Target branch=use default (master)
>>- >path=use default (/)
>>- >filename=index.html
>>
>> But now any attempt to save (tried on GC, FF, and Safari) ends with 
>> "Error while saving: XMLHttpRequest error code: 401" ... I went down a 
>> rabbit-hole of wondering whether I need to create a "gist" (since you 
>> mention gist, alongside repo, in connection with authentication details), 
>> but I'm clearly wasting my time. I've tried working with an alternate 
>> github OAUTH access token, as well as using my overall github password.
>>
>> And I'm afraid I've now squandered far more than my budgeted hour away 
>> from my actual job. Any tips?
>>
>> Thanks to all, and especially to Mohammad!
>>
>> -Springer
>>
>> On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 1:06:31 PM UTC-5 Victor Dorneanu wrote:
>>
>>> There is also Tiddlydrive : Edit 
>>> tiddlywiki files directly on Google Drive. And by using multcloud 
>>>  you can export your Tiddlywiki to 
>>> different cloud storage providers (e.g. AWS S3). 
>>>
>>> Victor
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 4:19:58 PM UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>> ...*GitHub Pages*
 This is the recommended method, it needs like one hour, to set up your 
 new account on https://github.com/ and host your Tiddlywiki using 
 GitHub Pages...
 ...

>>> *2. Tiddlywiki based on release 5.1.20 and newer [recommended]*

>>> ... instruction has been given here: 
 https://kookma.github.io/TW5-GitHub-Saver/

>>> This method is simpler, straight forward and better for non-tech people.

 *The published Tiddlywiki on GitHub can be accessed by any viewer has 
 the site URL and a rather new browser!*

>>> ...
 --Mohammad

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Two Alternatives to Tiddlyspot: 1. GitHub Pages 2. Google Drive

[Mohammad]

Hello Springer,
 Check the FAQ in tutorial

https://kookma.github.io/TW5-GitHub-Saver/#FAQ

Best
Mohammad

On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 2:52:05 AM UTC+3:30 springer wrote:

> Mohammad (and other github folks),
>
> I tremendously appreciate the TW5-GitHub-Saver tutorial that you've shared 
> for "non-tech people"...
>
> (Victor, TiddlyDrive with GDrive is indeed almost as convenient as 
> tiddlyspot for editing my own projects, but it doesn't seem to function as 
> a public-facing server, right? So in that respect it doesn't come close to 
> filling tiddlyspot's shoes.)
>
> Even with your essential GitHub TW5 tutorial, it's been slow for me to 
> wade through the github jargon. I finally got to the point where my sample 
> uploaded tw file is properly served up via its new github url (which I can 
> share, in case it helps with troubleshooting): 
> http://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/index.html
>
> I also generated a password token through github, and set up the Control 
> Panel > Save > GitHub fields in accord with tutorial:
>
> >Open the index.html from step 2 and from $:/ControlPanel 
> , *GitHub 
>  Saver* tab fill out 
> the required information
>
>- >Username=the username for the Git service account
>- >Password=access token
>- >Target repository=the repo name from step 3 (e.g. kookma/reponame
>- >Target branch=use default (master)
>- >path=use default (/)
>- >filename=index.html
>
> But now any attempt to save (tried on GC, FF, and Safari) ends with "Error 
> while saving: XMLHttpRequest error code: 401" ... I went down a rabbit-hole 
> of wondering whether I need to create a "gist" (since you mention gist, 
> alongside repo, in connection with authentication details), but I'm clearly 
> wasting my time. I've tried working with an alternate github OAUTH access 
> token, as well as using my overall github password.
>
> And I'm afraid I've now squandered far more than my budgeted hour away 
> from my actual job. Any tips?
>
> Thanks to all, and especially to Mohammad!
>
> -Springer
>
> On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 1:06:31 PM UTC-5 Victor Dorneanu wrote:
>
>> There is also Tiddlydrive : Edit 
>> tiddlywiki files directly on Google Drive. And by using multcloud 
>>  you can export your Tiddlywiki to different 
>> cloud storage providers (e.g. AWS S3). 
>>
>> Victor
>>
>> On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 4:19:58 PM UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>>
> ...*GitHub Pages*
>>> This is the recommended method, it needs like one hour, to set up your 
>>> new account on https://github.com/ and host your Tiddlywiki using 
>>> GitHub Pages...
>>> ...
>>>
>> *2. Tiddlywiki based on release 5.1.20 and newer [recommended]*
>>>
>> ... instruction has been given here: 
>>> https://kookma.github.io/TW5-GitHub-Saver/
>>>
>> This method is simpler, straight forward and better for non-tech people.
>>>
>>> *The published Tiddlywiki on GitHub can be accessed by any viewer has 
>>> the site URL and a rather new browser!*
>>>
>> ...
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Two Alternatives to Tiddlyspot: 1. GitHub Pages 2. Google Drive

[springer]

Mohammad (and other github folks),

I tremendously appreciate the TW5-GitHub-Saver tutorial that you've shared 
for "non-tech people"...

(Victor, TiddlyDrive with GDrive is indeed almost as convenient as 
tiddlyspot for editing my own projects, but it doesn't seem to function as 
a public-facing server, right? So in that respect it doesn't come close to 
filling tiddlyspot's shoes.)

Even with your essential GitHub TW5 tutorial, it's been slow for me to wade 
through the github jargon. I finally got to the point where my sample 
uploaded tw file is properly served up via its new github url (which I can 
share, in case it helps with troubleshooting): 
http://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/index.html

I also generated a password token through github, and set up the Control 
Panel > Save > GitHub fields in accord with tutorial:

>Open the index.html from step 2 and from $:/ControlPanel 
, *GitHub 
 Saver* tab fill out the 
required information

   - >Username=the username for the Git service account
   - >Password=access token
   - >Target repository=the repo name from step 3 (e.g. kookma/reponame
   - >Target branch=use default (master)
   - >path=use default (/)
   - >filename=index.html

But now any attempt to save (tried on GC, FF, and Safari) ends with "Error 
while saving: XMLHttpRequest error code: 401" ... I went down a rabbit-hole 
of wondering whether I need to create a "gist" (since you mention gist, 
alongside repo, in connection with authentication details), but I'm clearly 
wasting my time. I've tried working with an alternate github OAUTH access 
token, as well as using my overall github password.

And I'm afraid I've now squandered far more than my budgeted hour away from 
my actual job. Any tips?

Thanks to all, and especially to Mohammad!

-Springer

On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 1:06:31 PM UTC-5 Victor Dorneanu wrote:

> There is also Tiddlydrive : Edit 
> tiddlywiki files directly on Google Drive. And by using multcloud 
>  you can export your Tiddlywiki to different 
> cloud storage providers (e.g. AWS S3). 
>
> Victor
>
> On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 4:19:58 PM UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> ...*GitHub Pages*
>> This is the recommended method, it needs like one hour, to set up your 
>> new account on https://github.com/ and host your Tiddlywiki using GitHub 
>> Pages...
>> ...
>> *2. Tiddlywiki based on release 5.1.20 and newer [recommended]*
>> ... instruction has been given here: 
>> https://kookma.github.io/TW5-GitHub-Saver/
>> This method is simpler, straight forward and better for non-tech people.
>>
>> *The published Tiddlywiki on GitHub can be accessed by any viewer has the 
>> site URL and a rather new browser!*
>> ...
>> --Mohammad
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Two Alternatives to Tiddlyspot: 1. GitHub Pages 2. Google Drive

[Victor Dorneanu]

There is also Tiddlydrive : Edit tiddlywiki 
files directly on Google Drive. And by using multcloud 
 you can export your Tiddlywiki to different 
cloud storage providers (e.g. AWS S3). 

Victor

On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 4:19:58 PM UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:

> Tiddlyspot.com has closed its free services for hosting Tiddlywiki and 
> there are alot of Tiddlywiki files on Tiddlyspot.com which cannot be edited 
> / maintained anymore.
>
> Fortunately Tiddlywiki is enough flexible to be able to switch to 
> alternatives very quickly. Here, there are two alternatives
>
> *GitHub Pages*
> This is the recommended method, it needs like one hour, to set up your new 
> account on https://github.com/ and host your Tiddlywiki using GitHub 
> Pages. You can build a whole website using this method. It is possible to 
> maintain the page as a collaborative work (but needs a little more efforts)
>
> *1. Tiddlywiki older than TW 5.1.20*
> If you have an old Tiddlywiki and insisted to publish it, then use the 
> instruction in this tutorial 
> https://kookma.github.io/Tiddlywiki-and-GitHub-Pages/
> read carefully the *instruction *tiddler.
>
> *2. Tiddlywiki based on release 5.1.20 and newer [recommended]*
> If you have a Tiddlywiki based on release 5.1.20 or newer, or you can 
> upgrade your old Tiddlywiki, then use the instruction has been given here: 
> https://kookma.github.io/TW5-GitHub-Saver/
> This method is simpler, straight forward and better for non-tech people.
>
> *The published Tiddlywiki on GitHub can be accessed by any viewer has the 
> site URL and a rather new browser!*
>
> *Google Drive [The simplest - Limited to Android Users ]*
> Tiddloid (https://github.com/donmor/Tiddloid) and TiddloidLite (
> https://github.com/donmor/TiddloidLite) are two freely distributed 
> Android Apps can be installed on an Android device (phone/tablet) It can 
> simply create a Tiddlywiki (or any number of wiki you like) on Google Drive 
> the same way you create a new one on your local disk. You can open your 
> wiki using Tiddloid and edit it and save back to Drive.
>
> The Tiddloid works simply and any non-tech user can host his/her 
> Tiddlywiki on Google Drive. 
>
> 1. If your audiences have Tiddloid you can give access to them from Google 
> Drive
> 2.  If you want to share to anyone who has not Tiddloid you can share it 
> but viewer has to download and then open the Tiddlywiki, the browser does 
> not open directly Tiddlywiki from Google Drive
> NOTE: *The hosted Tiddlywiki on Google Drive can be accessed by any  
> other viewer  has the site url . You need  to distribute the link to 
> viewers (See  Share Files from Google Drive 
> )*
>
>
> --Mohammad
>

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