Re: [Tinyos-help] tinyos source packages?
On Aug 8, 2008, at 7:44 AM, Kevin Klues wrote: There is no particular reason other than the newer compiler hasn't been thoroughly tested by us to make sure there are no problems with it. The 3.2.3 version is known to work and so we stuck with it. Now that we have the debian repository though, there is no reason not to allow alternate msp430 packages to be installed (or other tools for that matter). Yeah, it turns out that msp430-gcc is generally pretty buggy. Over time, we've worked around all of the 3.2.3 bugs. There was general consensus in core that we should upgrade to a newer msp430-gcc after the 2.1 release. This will probably involve a couple of months of finding new bugs and adjusting the TinyOS source to avoid them. Phil ___ Tinyos-help mailing list Tinyos-help@millennium.berkeley.edu https://www.millennium.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tinyos-help
Re: [Tinyos-help] tinyos source packages?
Hi Kevin, On Friday 08 August 2008 08:44:04 am Kevin Klues wrote: There is no particular reason other than the newer compiler hasn't been thoroughly tested by us to make sure there are no problems with it. The 3.2.3 version is known to work and so we stuck with it. Sorry, I may have mislead you. I'm sticking for now with 3.2.3 for similar reasons. The difference is that I've started testing with the latest build with latest patches. Now that we have the debian repository though, there is no reason not to allow alternate msp430 packages to be installed (or other tools for that matter). I can just create a 'virtual' msp430-tinyos package that is instantiated by the various versions. That way the tinyos packages can depend on the virtual package, and the developer can install the version they think is appropriate. This would be excellent! I see several people on the list interested in using the new msp430 parts, so availability of 'testing' packages via the Stanford repo should help to scratch their collective itches and provide an early group of testers. I'll plan on pushing some patches your way for consideration in the next week or two. The problem is that I'm not up to speed on apt package development, so I may need your review and feedback on the patches to get them into shape for inclusion. All the best, Steve Kevin On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Steve McKown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kevein, On Saturday 19 July 2008 04:53:08 pm Kevin Klues wrote: I cleaned up some of the scripts (not perfect in my mind,. but there nonetheless). You can grab them from here.. git clone http://hinrg.cs.jhu.edu/git/tinyos-toolchain-packages.git I'd like to push some changes your way in the next couple of months. I'm finally back to TOS2 development, and have a project just starting that will use the msp430f2617. mspgcc CVS HEAD, using the patches in packaging/, builds a compiler that supports this and other newer parts. Some trivial compile/run tests shows that it still builds runnable code for our '1611 based boards. It compiles TOS2 code, with a few minor changes, for the '2617, but I don't have hardware to test on yet. I'm intending to create Ubuntu deb packages to simplify local updates of our Ubuntu development machines, and hope to contribute useful bits to your mainline distribution. Do you have some specific recommendations? Is there any reason you have yet to include the patches to support more of the x2xx family of parts and have not started using binutils-2.18? All the best, Steve Kevin On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Aurélien Francillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Klues a écrit : I'll try and put something together sometime this week or next. Its just a matter of finding the time. that would be great, thanks ! by the way, what about having everything (rpm/deb/source) at the same place? i.e. under: http://www.tinyos.net/dist-2.0.0/ cheers, Aurélien ___ Tinyos-help mailing list Tinyos-help@millennium.berkeley.edu https://www.millennium.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tinyos-help
Re: [Tinyos-help] tinyos source packages?
There is no particular reason other than the newer compiler hasn't been thoroughly tested by us to make sure there are no problems with it. The 3.2.3 version is known to work and so we stuck with it. Now that we have the debian repository though, there is no reason not to allow alternate msp430 packages to be installed (or other tools for that matter). I can just create a 'virtual' msp430-tinyos package that is instantiated by the various versions. That way the tinyos packages can depend on the virtual package, and the developer can install the version they think is appropriate. Kevin On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Steve McKown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kevein, On Saturday 19 July 2008 04:53:08 pm Kevin Klues wrote: I cleaned up some of the scripts (not perfect in my mind,. but there nonetheless). You can grab them from here.. git clone http://hinrg.cs.jhu.edu/git/tinyos-toolchain-packages.git I'd like to push some changes your way in the next couple of months. I'm finally back to TOS2 development, and have a project just starting that will use the msp430f2617. mspgcc CVS HEAD, using the patches in packaging/, builds a compiler that supports this and other newer parts. Some trivial compile/run tests shows that it still builds runnable code for our '1611 based boards. It compiles TOS2 code, with a few minor changes, for the '2617, but I don't have hardware to test on yet. I'm intending to create Ubuntu deb packages to simplify local updates of our Ubuntu development machines, and hope to contribute useful bits to your mainline distribution. Do you have some specific recommendations? Is there any reason you have yet to include the patches to support more of the x2xx family of parts and have not started using binutils-2.18? All the best, Steve Kevin On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Aurélien Francillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Klues a écrit : I'll try and put something together sometime this week or next. Its just a matter of finding the time. that would be great, thanks ! by the way, what about having everything (rpm/deb/source) at the same place? i.e. under: http://www.tinyos.net/dist-2.0.0/ cheers, Aurélien -- ~Kevin ___ Tinyos-help mailing list Tinyos-help@millennium.berkeley.edu https://www.millennium.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tinyos-help
Re: [Tinyos-help] tinyos source packages?
Hi Kevein, On Saturday 19 July 2008 04:53:08 pm Kevin Klues wrote: I cleaned up some of the scripts (not perfect in my mind,. but there nonetheless). You can grab them from here.. git clone http://hinrg.cs.jhu.edu/git/tinyos-toolchain-packages.git I'd like to push some changes your way in the next couple of months. I'm finally back to TOS2 development, and have a project just starting that will use the msp430f2617. mspgcc CVS HEAD, using the patches in packaging/, builds a compiler that supports this and other newer parts. Some trivial compile/run tests shows that it still builds runnable code for our '1611 based boards. It compiles TOS2 code, with a few minor changes, for the '2617, but I don't have hardware to test on yet. I'm intending to create Ubuntu deb packages to simplify local updates of our Ubuntu development machines, and hope to contribute useful bits to your mainline distribution. Do you have some specific recommendations? Is there any reason you have yet to include the patches to support more of the x2xx family of parts and have not started using binutils-2.18? All the best, Steve Kevin On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Aurélien Francillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Klues a écrit : I'll try and put something together sometime this week or next. Its just a matter of finding the time. that would be great, thanks ! by the way, what about having everything (rpm/deb/source) at the same place? i.e. under: http://www.tinyos.net/dist-2.0.0/ cheers, Aurélien ___ Tinyos-help mailing list Tinyos-help@millennium.berkeley.edu https://www.millennium.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tinyos-help
Re: [Tinyos-help] tinyos source packages?
Thanks, this looks great. Could you also post this location on the tinyos website, for other interested parties to find in the future? I'll probably be sending you patches in the near future (docs, and debianisation). Will send you the git URL when I set it up. David. On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 12:53 AM, Kevin Klues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cleaned up some of the scripts (not perfect in my mind,. but there nonetheless). You can grab them from here.. git clone http://hinrg.cs.jhu.edu/git/tinyos-toolchain-packages.git Kevin On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Aurélien Francillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Klues a écrit : I'll try and put something together sometime this week or next. Its just a matter of finding the time. that would be great, thanks ! by the way, what about having everything (rpm/deb/source) at the same place? i.e. under: http://www.tinyos.net/dist-2.0.0/ cheers, Aurélien -- ~Kevin ___ Tinyos-help mailing list Tinyos-help@millennium.berkeley.edu https://www.millennium.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tinyos-help
Re: [Tinyos-help] tinyos source packages?
Kevin Klues a écrit : I'll try and put something together sometime this week or next. Its just a matter of finding the time. that would be great, thanks ! by the way, what about having everything (rpm/deb/source) at the same place? i.e. under: http://www.tinyos.net/dist-2.0.0/ cheers, Aurélien ___ Tinyos-help mailing list Tinyos-help@millennium.berkeley.edu https://www.millennium.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tinyos-help
Re: [Tinyos-help] tinyos source packages?
Le Thursday 17 July 2008 12:52:43 Stefano Kismet Lenzi, vous avez écrit : On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:23, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list. TinyOS provides Ubuntu packages, with installation instructions here: http://www.tinyos.net/scoop/story/2007/8/15/234856/990 I've browsed the package repo, and don't see any source packages. Could source packages be provided? They would be very useful for users to make their own, custom packages. I think that having access to the source package would really benefit the community! In particular, it would be even possible to provide a daily or weekly update tinyos-core containing all the latest CVS changes I think it would be nice ... and it would make support for gentoo easier one day, even tough the development of gentoo ebuilds is quite stalled ... IIRC this has been requested some time ago, the answer was use a binary rpm/deb or take a cvs snapshot yourself ... I hope source tarballs will be provided one day ... moreover it's probably a low effort task as they are probably already made somehow to build the debs/rpm, just some changes to some build script ? Aurélien ___ Tinyos-help mailing list Tinyos-help@millennium.berkeley.edu https://www.millennium.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tinyos-help
Re: [Tinyos-help] tinyos source packages?
I would second what Aurelien has already said. Having source packages would be definitely beneficial in supporting larger number of distributions that generally rely on similar package management but then also have quirks that make it difficult to install binary packages. On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Aurelien Francillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le Thursday 17 July 2008 12:52:43 Stefano Kismet Lenzi, vous avez écrit : On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:23, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list. TinyOS provides Ubuntu packages, with installation instructions here: http://www.tinyos.net/scoop/story/2007/8/15/234856/990 I've browsed the package repo, and don't see any source packages. Could source packages be provided? They would be very useful for users to make their own, custom packages. I think that having access to the source package would really benefit the community! In particular, it would be even possible to provide a daily or weekly update tinyos-core containing all the latest CVS changes I think it would be nice ... and it would make support for gentoo easier one day, even tough the development of gentoo ebuilds is quite stalled ... IIRC this has been requested some time ago, the answer was use a binary rpm/deb or take a cvs snapshot yourself ... I hope source tarballs will be provided one day ... moreover it's probably a low effort task as they are probably already made somehow to build the debs/rpm, just some changes to some build script ? Aurélien ___ Tinyos-help mailing list Tinyos-help@millennium.berkeley.edu https://www.millennium.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tinyos-help ___ Tinyos-help mailing list Tinyos-help@millennium.berkeley.edu https://www.millennium.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tinyos-help
Re: [Tinyos-help] tinyos source packages?
I'll try and put something together sometime this week or next. Its just a matter of finding the time. Kevin On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 5:43 AM, Sarfraz Nawaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would second what Aurelien has already said. Having source packages would be definitely beneficial in supporting larger number of distributions that generally rely on similar package management but then also have quirks that make it difficult to install binary packages. On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Aurelien Francillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le Thursday 17 July 2008 12:52:43 Stefano Kismet Lenzi, vous avez écrit : On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:23, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list. TinyOS provides Ubuntu packages, with installation instructions here: http://www.tinyos.net/scoop/story/2007/8/15/234856/990 I've browsed the package repo, and don't see any source packages. Could source packages be provided? They would be very useful for users to make their own, custom packages. I think that having access to the source package would really benefit the community! In particular, it would be even possible to provide a daily or weekly update tinyos-core containing all the latest CVS changes I think it would be nice ... and it would make support for gentoo easier one day, even tough the development of gentoo ebuilds is quite stalled ... IIRC this has been requested some time ago, the answer was use a binary rpm/deb or take a cvs snapshot yourself ... I hope source tarballs will be provided one day ... moreover it's probably a low effort task as they are probably already made somehow to build the debs/rpm, just some changes to some build script ? Aurélien ___ Tinyos-help mailing list Tinyos-help@millennium.berkeley.edu https://www.millennium.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tinyos-help ___ Tinyos-help mailing list Tinyos-help@millennium.berkeley.edu https://www.millennium.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tinyos-help -- ~Kevin ___ Tinyos-help mailing list Tinyos-help@millennium.berkeley.edu https://www.millennium.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tinyos-help
Re: [Tinyos-help] tinyos source packages?
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Kevin Klues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll try and put something together sometime this week or next. Its just a matter of finding the time. Kevin I can help out a bit with this, or at least do some (Debian Etch Sid) testing, if it will help. I assume you have scripts, or docs you follow to manually build binary debs for each release? If you're too busy to make source packages in the next few weeks, could you forward any rough notes/scripts to me so I can try debianising? Otherwise I'll try to reverse-engineer source packages by extracting the binary installers and then creating debian control files to make binary packages with the same layout (after performing the normal build under a Debian Stable chroot). I also want to make the .deb packages more Debian-friendly (eg: put stuff under FHS-complient /usr dirs instead of /opt. Also don't require users to update their PATH env vars. And various other things suggested by lintian). But that comes later. I'm mainly interested in debianising the stuff under /opt/tinyos2.x, but I'll try the other packages too if you send me info for how their .deb files are built. Should I send debianisation patches to you? David. ___ Tinyos-help mailing list Tinyos-help@millennium.berkeley.edu https://www.millennium.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tinyos-help
