RE: bystander effect and cross-cultural research
Dear Tipsters, We have had a number of informative responses to the question concerning culture/bystander/FAE, particularly the detailed one from Paul Smith. May I humbly suggest that if people have a question about an issue, they do their own homework then inform us in the context of teaching? I, for one, do not appreciate uninformed opinion. Of course, if someone searches and does not find, it is appropriate to ask for guidance. Sincerely, Stuart ___ Stuart J. McKelvie, Ph.D.,Phone: (819)822-9600 Department of Psychology, Extension 2402 Bishop's University, Fax: (819)822-9661 3 Route 108 East, Lennoxville, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quebec J1M 1Z7, Canada. Bishop's University Psychology Department Web Page: http://www.ubishops.ca/ccc/div/soc/psy ___
Re: Reversing the effects of father time
Stephen Black wrote: On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Jim Guinee wrote: How close is science to understanding the most likely cause of the aging process? Huh. Just I want -- again, to be 16...young, energetic, and pimple-faced. Jim, you're in luck. I just happen to know the secret of long life. It's simple. Eat less. . A _lot_ less (50-70% decrease in caloric intake). References Weindruch, R. (1996). Caloric restriction and aging. Scientific American, January, p. 46-- Campisi, J. (2000). Aging, chromatin, and food restriction--connecting the dots. Science, 289, 2062-- One more reference (a summary article): Pinel, John P.J., Assanand, S., Lehman, D.R. (2000) Hunger, Eating, and Ill health. American Psychologist. 55, 1105-1116. This topic is of interest to the way we teach hunger and motivation. As I used to teach these topics, the regulatory drives (water, temperate, food) maintain homeostatis at some optimal level. This may be true for temperature and water, but perhaps not so for eating and hunger. The Pinel article advances an incentive theory of eating that simply says food has positive incentive value - we eat when food is available. This evolutionary mechanism creates non-optimal weights in a society filled with a constant supply of fast food. They claim previous studies failing to show the beneficial effects of being underweight confonded underweight with smoking (under weight people are more likely to smoke). When the smoking effect is removed beneficial effects emerge. However, there is alot of infra-human animal research that provides what appears to be direct causal evidence. Maybe there is something to the old religious fasting traditons. Nowadays Catholics give up things like chewing gum and sweets for the 40 days of Lent. But in some churches it's a strict fast - no dairy, meat, sweets or alcohol. You lose weight after 40 days of whole wheat, beans, celery and OJ (mostly because you're sick of the beans and eat much less). But that is consistent with the incentive theory of eating. -- --- John W. Kulig[EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Psychology http://oz.plymouth.edu/~kulig Plymouth State College tel: (603) 535-2468 Plymouth NH USA 03264fax: (603) 535-2412 --- What a man often sees he does not wonder at, although he knows not why it happens; if something occurs which he has not seen before, he thinks it is a marvel - Cicero.
Re: is learning unnatural?
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Paul Brandon wrote: At 1:49 PM -0400 4/23/01, Michael Sylvester wrote: whatever goes around,comes around. But once is enough! not necessarily! Michael Sylvester
Research Subjects needed for study of computer usage
I am conducting a survey of computer usage and am looking for people who use the computer at least 10 hours per week. You will have to keep a log of your usage in broad categories for just one week. Full-time and part-time faculty and high school teachers may all be included in the study. Please respond to me off-list. -- -David Wheeler, Ph.D., PHR, CMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://RMC_SHRM.tripod.com Associate Professor, Psychology Robert Morris College, Pittsburgh PA USA http://www.robert-morris.edu Copyright 2001 All rights reserved. Permission is granted for redistribution in whole or in part providing it is not used for monetary gains and this signature file is included. Remember, the Earth is a place, earth is dirt. See how silly this looks: Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, earth, Venus, Mercury. --
Re: bystander effect and cross-cultural research
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Beth Benoit wrote: Interesting statement, Michael. Do you have any research to back up your final sentence? If so, this is an important piece of information to include when covering fundamental attribution error. But if it's opinion, I can't make that statement to a class. Beth Benoit University System of New Hampshire See Zimbardo's video on Social Psych. Michael Sylvester
Goal setting
Looking for motivational advice for my students 1st year Undergrads/Freshers, benefits and methods of goal setting for improved outcome. Many thanks Howie Fine MSc __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: Reversing the effects of father time
At 9:34 PM -0400 4/23/01, Stephen Black wrote: On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Jim Guinee wrote: How close is science to understanding the most likely cause of the aging process? Huh. Just I want -- again, to be 16...young, energetic, and pimple-faced. Jim, you're in luck. I just happen to know the secret of long life. It's simple. Eat less. Actually, life just _seems_ longer! * PAUL K. BRANDON [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Psychology Dept Minnesota State University, Mankato * * 23 Armstrong Hall, Mankato, MN 56001 ph 507-389-6217 * *http://www.mankato.msus.edu/dept/psych/welcome.html*
RE: bystander effect and cross-cultural research
At 10:47 PM -0400 4/23/01, Ann Calhoun-Sauls wrote: Actually, this question was prompted by a student who had the same only in selfish, self-centered America reaction to my discussion of the topic. This assumes, of course, that there is one monolythic 'Amurican' culture. Out here in (semi)rural Minnesohta, I see much more willingness to help than on the coasts. I'd suspect that China is at least as culturally heterogenous. * PAUL K. BRANDON [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Psychology Dept Minnesota State University, Mankato * * 23 Armstrong Hall, Mankato, MN 56001 ph 507-389-6217 * *http://www.mankato.msus.edu/dept/psych/welcome.html*
RE: bystander effect and cross-cultural research
I had to respond to this. I found many aspects of this thread refreshing and interesting, and totally relevant to teaching. Bystander effect and diffusion of responsibility are one of the more interesting topics that I use to generate interest in students, and bring to life, issues that are important to all of us. While some of the contributors did offer more informative, academically sound and useful information, if it were not for the uninformed contributors, we would not have benefited from them. I am especially appreciative of those who share their PsychInfo lit searches since it provides me with up-to-date references and saves me a trip to my school and an hour of my time, which as an adjunct instructor, is very limited. Now I can easily order the articles through interlibrary loan, since my college has limited assets. Thanks To Paul Smith on that. Haydee Gelpi Broward Community College Florida -Original Message- From: Stuart Mckelvie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 9:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Paul Smith Subject: RE: bystander effect and cross-cultural research Dear Tipsters, We have had a number of informative responses to the question concerning culture/bystander/FAE, particularly the detailed one from Paul Smith. May I humbly suggest that if people have a question about an issue, they do their own homework then inform us in the context of teaching? I, for one, do not appreciate uninformed opinion. Of course, if someone searches and does not find, it is appropriate to ask for guidance. Sincerely, Stuart ___ Stuart J. McKelvie, Ph.D.,Phone: (819)822-9600 Department of Psychology, Extension 2402 Bishop's University, Fax: (819)822-9661 3 Route 108 East, Lennoxville, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quebec J1M 1Z7, Canada. Bishop's University Psychology Department Web Page: http://www.ubishops.ca/ccc/div/soc/psy ___
RE: bystander effect and cross-cultural research
I must say that I am not too impressed with attempts by some tipsters to find Eurocentric conceptual equivalences in other cultures. Concepts like intelligence,attribution ,empathy and so on do not carry the same meaning in other cultures. The Eurocentric penchant for emphasizing experimental methodology as the key to understanding causal relationships may be internally valid,but this is no indication that it has external validity. From the info from that PsyInc search,it seems like researchers think that they can go to other countries and just transfer their tools and come to valid conclusions. Chinese college students may be like students in the U.S,but a selected group of Chinese students may not be representative of the indigenous Chinese.There is an area of study called Indigenous Psychology which differs from Cross-cultural Psychology.When we are dealing with Indigenous Psychology- a separate and distinctive methodology must be developped for virtually every culture. It is my observation re the FAE that international students are more likely to blame themselves for both academic successes and failures,whereas U.S students take credit for successes and have a tendency to blame environmental factors for their failures. -probably an offshoot of being culturally conditioned to assume that when things go wrong the environment may have played a part. It can be a form of stubborn and rigid and inflexible individualism. As to attack on opinions,let me say this about that.Some opinions may be based on reliable experiences and observations and inferences based on these should not be discarded.Good and reliable observations can yield valid results.See old text by Hutt and Hutt and other types of ethological research. When I compare and contrast cultures,I know what I am noting because I was raised and educated in differing cultures. Now there is culural transformation taking place all the time. Interestingly enough,the Westernization of some cultures may bring in the same predicaments as the West(obesity in India and crime in Johannesburg) but these are introduced by the West and not indigenous. There is alot of bystander apathy to the homeless in the U.S which does not involve being in a crowd. Stay tuned! I cannot wait to comment on shame and guilt cross-culturally. Michael Sylvester,PhD Daytona Beach,Florida Da cross-cultural dude on TIPS.
RE: bystander effect and cross-cultural research
Michael says: It is my observation re the FAE that international students are more likely to blame themselves for both academic successes and failures,whereas U.S students take credit for successes and have a tendency to blame environmental factors for their failures. -probably an offshoot of being culturally conditioned to assume that when things go wrong the environment may have played a part. It can be a form of stubborn and rigid and inflexible individualism. So it sounds like you are suggesting that if your observations contradict research findings we should trust your observations. So, in order to evaluate your claim, I would like to know: 1. How do you operationalize the FAE in your observations? 2. How do you establish the reliability and validity of your measure of the FAE? 3. On how many observations is your conclusion based? 4. Is this true of international students of ALL other countries, or certain ones? If you answer these for me, I'll compare your observations to the studies that have been published in peer reviewed (i.e., Eurocentric) journals, and then decide which is more persuasive. Thanks, Marty Bourgeois University of Wyoming
The Lucifer Principle
Title: The Lucifer Principle I've just begun to read a very interesting document, available only online from Barnes Noble (as far as Iknow), and think if others find it interesting, it would be a good new thread. The document is called The Lucifer Principle, by Harold Bloom, and while not a scientific study, is very well documented. The basic thesis is that ... 'evil' is a by-product of nature's strategies for creation and is woven into our most basic biological fabric. Here are a couple of more excerpts to whet (not wet - it's too early in the day) TIPS whistles: Eighteen hundred years ago in the city of Rome, an influential Christian heretic named Marcion took a look at the world around him and drew a conclusion. The god who created our cosmos couldn't possibly be good. The universe was shot through with appalling threads - violence, slaughter, sickness and pain. These were the Creator's handiwork. Surely He must be some perversely sadistic force, one who should be banished form influence over the minds of men... More traditional Christians found another way of dealing with the problem of evil. They created the myth of Lucifer... Mainstream Christians absolved the Almighty of responsibility by blaming all that's wrong on the Prince of Darkness and on man. but in a strange way, Marcion had a better handle on the situation than the more conventional followers of the church, for Lucifer is merely one of the faces of a larger force. 'Evil' is a by-product, a component of creation. In a world evolving into ever higher forms, hatred, violence, aggression and war are a part of the evolutionary plan. But where do they fit? Why do they exist?... The author goes on to posit that ...to dismantle the curse that mother nature has built into us we need a new way of looking at man...a recognition that the enemy is within us [italics mine] and that nature has deposited it there. We need to stare directly into nature's bloody face and realize that she has saddled us with evil for a reason. And we must understand that reason to outwit her. The reason, he feels, is a primitive survival instinct, but it often results in humans behaving in evil ways. BUT our intellects can help us overcome our natural instincts. My husband and I have been discussing the ramifications of this theory for two days. Time for other minds to prevail, or at least have some input! This is the URL: http://shop.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/results.asp?TTL=luciferFMT=ALLEBOOKSuserid=1HC5TZ24TO or, to find this document from scratch, go to www.bn.com, click on ebooks, then on that page, click on mightywords on the left side column. I think you can also enter Lucifer Principle in the title section of the ebooks page, and go from that page to download the Acrobat eReader or other free versions, but Macintosh users (such as I) will only be able to get it to work from mightywords. The cost was $2 per section (there are 9) - just download the first chapter if you're curious - or $9.60 for the whole book. You can then print it up or not. (My Macintosh gave me a lot of trouble. If you are a Mac user and are having trouble, email me and I'll try to talk you through it.) Beth Benoit University Systems of New Hampshire
Re: The Lucifer Principle
Please!Please! Spare me another religious thread.Have had enough from PB. Michael Sylvester
Re: The Lucifer Principle
Isn't it curious that when we talk of violence, killing, pain and survival waysin the nature, we call it the natural order of things. When we introduce the same conditions into the human world, as if we were somehow apart from nature, we become judgemental and moralistic, and use terms like evil. Of course, Marcion's adjenda, not being able to reconcile how a perfect and loving God could or would create something imperfect, hence could have the qualities of the perfect Creator, was very selective in what he saw and defined. At the same time, an evil Lucifer, would not and could not create a world in which compassion, love, belief, faith, sympathy, empathy, courage, support and encouragement exists. Such a world would not have the qualities of a fallen creator. Make it a good day. --Louis-- Louis Schmier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of History www.halcyon.com/arborhts/louis.html Valdosta State University Valdosta, GA 31698 /~\/\ /\ 229-333-5947 /^\ / \/ /~\ \ /~\__/\ / \__/ \/ / /\ /~\/ \ /\/\-/ /^\_\/__/___/^\ -_~/ If you want to climb mountains, \ /^\ _ _ / don't practice on mole hills -\
RE: bystander effect and cross-cultural research
Title: RE: bystander effect and cross-cultural research At the risk of fanning a flame, just a little, I feel I should respond to the following point made by Michael Sylvester, since it was in response to a comment I made: As to attack on opinions,let me say this about that.Some opinions may be based on reliable experiences and observations and inferences based on these should not be discarded... When I compare and contrast cultures,I know what I am noting because I was raised and educated in differing cultures. Come on, Michael, surely you know better than to use one person's (yours) observations as a proof of anything. Beth Benoit University System of New Hampshire
Re: The Lucifer Principle - redirect
As the originator of this thread, I hope I may have the right (option?) to redirect. Louis Schmier took this thread back on an is there a god? tangent, while I was hoping to see a more psychologically-oriented thread, namely: Is it possible that what we might call evil is actually an inherent part of our biological makeup? And the human part of us (equate with intelligence??) can perhaps reject it. Perhaps this is the ideal of Maslow's self-actualization. I'd hate to be the one who started yet another religious thread on TIPS. But then perhaps an original threader is like a parent. You never know how your children will turn out... Beth Benoit University System of New Hampshire From: Louis_Schmier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Louis_Schmier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 13:19:06 -0400 (EDT) To: Beth Benoit [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: TIPS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The Lucifer Principle Isn't it curious that when we talk of violence, killing, pain and survival waysin the nature, we call it the natural order of things. When we introduce the same conditions into the human world, as if we were somehow apart from nature, we become judgemental and moralistic, and use terms like evil. Of course, Marcion's adjenda, not being able to reconcile how a perfect and loving God could or would create something imperfect, hence could have the qualities of the perfect Creator, was very selective in what he saw and defined. At the same time, an evil Lucifer, would not and could not create a world in which compassion, love, belief, faith, sympathy, empathy, courage, support and encouragement exists. Such a world would not have the qualities of a fallen creator. Make it a good day. --Louis-- Louis Schmier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of History www.halcyon.com/arborhts/louis.html Valdosta State University Valdosta, GA 31698 /~\/\ /\ 229-333-5947 /^\ / \/ /~\ \ /~\__/\ / \__/ \/ / /\ /~\/ \ /\/\-/ /^\_\/__/___/^\ -_~/ If you want to climb mountains, \ /^\ _ _ / don't practice on mole hills -\
RE: bystander effect and cross-cultural research
So it sounds like you are suggesting that if your observations contradict research findings we should trust your observations. So, in order to evaluate your claim, I would like to know: 1. How do you operationalize the FAE in your observations? 2. How do you establish the reliability and validity of your measure of the FAE? 3. On how many observations is your conclusion based? 4. Is this true of international students of ALL other countries, or certain ones? If you answer these for me, I'll compare your observations to the studies that have been published in peer reviewed (i.e., Eurocentric) journals, and then decide which is more persuasive. Well done Marty! I am constantly tired by students who attempt to refute my lectures by their own observations. I ask them virtually the same questions you just posed... what about confirmation bias? Is it possible that we are only remembering the observations that conform to our theory? Stephen W. Tuholski Ph.D. Asst. Professor Dept. of Psychology Southern Illinois U. at Edwardsville Edwardsville IL 62026 Phone: 618 650 5391 Fax: 618 650 5087 http://www.siue.edu/~stuhols Most people would sooner die than think; in fact, they do so. - Bertrand Russell ***
Re: The Lucifer Principle
At 12:42 PM -0400 4/24/01, Beth Benoit wrote: I've just begun to read a very interesting document, available only online from Barnes Noble (as far as I know), and think if others find it interesting, it would be a good new thread. The document is called The Lucifer Principle, by Harold Bloom, Note: The author is _Howard_ Bloom... there's a difference. The ebook is a reprint of a hardcover version published in 1994. * PAUL K. BRANDON [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Psychology Dept Minnesota State University, Mankato * * 23 Armstrong Hall, Mankato, MN 56001 ph 507-389-6217 * *http://www.mankato.msus.edu/dept/psych/welcome.html*
Re: Summer reading recommendations
Here is the list I give my students. You can get good summaries at www.amazon.com along with some pretty good reviews. Many can be ordered tthere at a discount. Stanovich, K., How to Think Straight About Psychology This is a good general introduction to the concept that psychology must be considered from a scientific perspective. I require reading this book in all my upper division laboratory courses. Sagan, C. Demon Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark This was Carl Sagan's last book before he died and pretty much has the exact same theme as Stanovich's book, but was intended for the general public and is a bit broader in its consideration of scientific phenomena. This is not a book I'd recommend to anyone who is devoutly interested in organized religion, since Sagan was against the concept of 'organized' religion and takes a few stabs at why; but the overall theme is very, very good. Faludi, S. Backlash This is a very nice example of how to go about documenting what you want to talk about-the theme of this book regards the failure of the women's movement-or at least it's overly slow progression with two steps forward and one back at each historical point. A good choice if you are interested in gender issues. Tavris, C. Mismeasure of Woman This is a funny, scientific consideration of how women are measured up against men in both medicine and psychology. Consequently, when normal is considered the average of what is true of men, women are seen by society as decidedly 'abnormal'. A really good choice for an interest in gender issues. Steinberg, L. Beyond the Classroom Critically examines why there is an apparent lack of progress in our educational system and why educational reform appears to not produce increased test scores. A good read for those planning or major in education. There are some parts I question the evidence forbut overall nicely researched. Rich-Harris, J. The Nurture Assumption Suggests that nurture-our environment, and in particular our peers-has the greatest influence on our development-including moral, social and cognitive development. Parental influence seems to be minimal when examined within the big picture of scientific evidence. Another good read for those planning to major in education. I have only read small bits and pieces so can't really comment personally on this one. Dawes, R. House of Cards Examines evidence that although psychotherapy 'works', there is nothing specific that can be pinpointed as being responsible for improvement-not training, orientation, length of practice experience, not level of education-no single variable can be shown to particularly affect psychotherapy's effectiveness. Important reading if you want to become or therapist or ever need a therapist. Cialdini, R. Influence Examines factors which affect our decision to comply, obey, buy, etc.-any factors that have an influence over our behavior. Written from a social psychological perspective; nicely documented. I read this one last summer and it was a good summer read. della Salla, S. Mind Myths This one is great and I have read excellent reviews and strong recommendations from my peers for-it immediately sold out on the first printing. This is an edited collection examining several popular myths about mind (i.e., we only use 10% of our brains). Exploring the history of how each myth developed and the facts concerning the truth of the matter (i.e., we use over 90% of our brains). Vyse, S, A. Believing in Magic: The Psychology of Supersition I've only read parts of this one but this one deals in very plain language with the problems associated with irrational beliefs. Sapolsky, R. Why Zebras Don't Get Ulcers For anyone who worries about stress in their lives and how to understand its effects--correctly! this is a very readable and entertaining book, while providing accurate information on stress, its effects, and how to control it. Edell, D. Eat, Drink and be Merry Written by Dean Edell, a radio talk show host about medical issues. I consider Dr. Edell to be the best of the best on radio when it comes to critically thinking about health. His guidelines of how to think about physical health issues translate wonderfully to mental health, as well as to life in general. Glassner, B. The Culture of Fear : Why Americans Are Afraid of the Wrong Things I have not read this one---yet! but will soon. It has great reviews and comes highly recommended to me. The author uses many great examples of why we fear things we shouldn't and don't fear those we should--I am interested to see how he explains the fallacies in thinking. Annette Annette Taylor, Ph. D. Department of PsychologyE-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of San Diego Voice: (619) 260-4006 5998 Alcala Park San Diego, CA 92110 Education is one of the few things a
RE: bystander effect and cross-cultural research
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Beth Benoit wrote: At the risk of fanning a flame, just a little, I feel I should respond to the following point made by Michael Sylvester, since it was in response to a comment I made: As to attack on opinions,let me say this about that.Some opinions may be based on reliable experiences and observations and inferences based on these should not be discarded... When I compare and contrast cultures,I know what I am noting because I was raised and educated in differing cultures. Come on, Michael, surely you know better than to use one person's (yours) observations as a proof of anything. But if these observations can be agreed upon by others then there is a consensus.Actually,the number of persons may not be the critical variable. Even in research,baloney is still baloney even though it is researched. What is a flame anyway? Michael Sylvester
RE: bystander effect and cross-cultural research
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Stephen W Tuholski wrote: Well done Marty! I am constantly tired by students who attempt to refute my lectures by their own observations. I ask them virtually the same questions you just posed... what about confirmation bias? Is it possible that we are only remembering the observations that conform to our theory? What is more real a confirmation bias or a scientific hypothesis? Michael Sylvester,PhD Daytona Beach,Florida
RE: The Lucifer Principle
Michael Sylvester wrote: Please!Please! Spare me another religious thread.Have had enough from PB. THIS from the person who can't let a week go by w/o throwing out a troll or other post about our Eurocentricism? Sorry, Michael, but I doubt very many people on this list are at all concerned with sparing you from being bored by repetition! Rick -- Rick Adams Department of Social Sciences Jackson Community College Jackson, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... and the only measure of your worth and your deeds will be the love you leave behind when you're gone. --Fred Small, Everything Possible
RE: bystander effect and cross-cultural research
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Martin J. Bourgeois wrote: Michael says: It is my observation re the FAE that international students are more likely to blame themselves for both academic successes and failures,whereas U.S students take credit for successes and have a tendency to blame environmental factors for their failures. -probably an offshoot of being culturally conditioned to assume that when things go wrong the environment may have played a part. It can be a form of stubborn and rigid and inflexible individualism. So it sounds like you are suggesting that if your observations contradict research findings we should trust your observations. So, in order to evaluate your claim, I would like to know: 1. How do you operationalize the FAE in your observations? 2. How do you establish the reliability and validity of your measure of the FAE? 3. On how many observations is your conclusion based? 4. Is this true of international students of ALL other countries, or certain ones? If you answer these for me, I'll compare your observations to the studies that have been published in peer reviewed (i.e., Eurocentric) journals, and then decide which is more persuasive. Observations (not one observation) is another form of research methodology.Not all topics are researchable.One ought to distinguish opinion from observations. Michael Sylvester
Re: bystander effect and cross-cultural research
In a message dated 4/24/2001 11:38:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is more real a confirmation bias or a scientific hypothesis? Here is a question that asks us to compare apples to SUVs. We see the real and very detrimental effects of our students' confirmation biases in their persistent beliefs in astrology, palm reading and the like. I do my best to encourage them NOT to trust their own observations, but after awhile I have to say, hey, it's their money. And that is perpetuated by instructors who encourage them to think what ever they like as long as it appears that there own observations support it, and not to question to consider the possibility that their own observations are flawed and distorted by wishful thinking etc. I am not sure what you mean by "how real is a scientific hypothesis is" but of course the quality of the scientific thinking is dictated by how willing we are to check our own biases. But I get the feeling, Michael that you are telling your students that whatever they believe and they see and hear is just OK and must be the truth. So I don't know why I am even bothering to respond. Nancy Melucci ELAC
Re: bystander effect and cross-cultural research
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I get the feeling, Michael that you are telling your students that whatever they believe and they see and hear is just OK and must be the truth. So I don't know why I am even bothering to respond. Nancy Melucci ELAC In the classroom,I teach strictly scientific psychology and I even warn them not to commit the confirmation bias. Why do tipsters think that my writings on TIPS is a reflection of my teaching style?
Topics that can't be researched
Michael Sylvester wrote: Not all topics are researchable. This could be one of those suprisingly useful posts from Daytona. Can we come up with examples of such topics, other than silly ones like, How many angels can fit on the head of a pin? -- * http://www.coe.uca.edu/psych/scoles/index.html * Mike Scoles *[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Department of Psychology *voice: (501) 450-5418 * * University of Central Arkansas*fax: (501) 450-5424 * * Conway, AR72035-0001 * * *
Position Opening
Below is the description of a position opening at Loras College for the 2001-2002 academic year. Anyone interested should contact Dr. Thomas Pusateri (information provided in copy below). Also, I will attempt to answer questions. Thanks for your consideration of this position. Psychology: Generalist. The Department of Psychology at Loras College seeks a candidate for a one-year replacement position in psychology beginning August 15, 2001. This position may become a tenure-track position contingent on the department's future needs. The successful candidate will contribute to one or more of the following, in order of priority: (1) teaching courses in several of the following content areas: introductory psychology, history of psychology, statistics, research methods, abnormal, clinical, physiological, cognitive, motivation; (2) directing student-centered research, preferably applied research. If the position becomes tenure-track, a greater emphasis will be placed on directing student research and the candidate will also be expected to (3) contribute to an interdisciplinary undergraduate general education curriculum and the department's masters program; and (4) develop and teach courses in the candidate's areas of expertise. The ideal candidate will have a Ph.D. in psychology and will provide recent evidence of success in college teaching and directing undergraduate research. Candidates will be expected to support Loras College's mission statement. Loras College is a four-year Catholic coeducational liberal arts institution. Its 60-acre campus is located on one of Dubuque's highest bluffs, overlooking the Mississippi River at the junction of Iowa, Illinois, and Wisconsin. Review of applications will begin immediately and will continue until the position is filled. Send letter of application, curriculum vitae, three current letters of recommendation, and graduate transcripts to Dr. Thomas Pusateri, c/o Director of Human Resources, Loras College, 1450 Alta Vista Street, Dubuque, IA, 52004-0178. For more information, contact Dr. Thomas Pusateri, Psychology Department Chair at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or (563) 588-7226. Visit Loras at http://www.loras.edu. Women and minorities are encouraged to apply. An Affirmative Action/Equal Opportunity Employer. Stephen C. Milliser, Ph.D. Professor Department of Psychology Loras College Dubuque, IA 52001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN HTMLHEAD META content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 http-equiv=Content-Type META content=MSHTML 5.00.2920.0 name=GENERATOR/HEAD BODY style=FONT: 10pt Bookman Old Style; MARGIN-LEFT: 2px; MARGIN-TOP: 2px DIVnbsp;Below is the description of a position opening at Loras College for the 2001-2002 academic year. Anyone interested should contact Dr. Thomas Pusateri (information provided in copy below). Also, I will attempt to answer questions. Thanks for your consideration of this position./DIV DIVnbsp;/DIV P class=MsoNormal style=LINE-HEIGHT: 200%; TEXT-ALIGN: justifyB style=mso-bidi-font-weight: normalPsychology: Generalist./B The Department of Psychology at Loras College seeks a candidate for a one-year replacement position in psychology beginning August 15, 2001. This position may become a tenure-track position contingent on the department#8217;s future needs. The successful candidate will contribute to one or more of the following, in order of priority: (1) teaching courses in several of the following content areas:SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yesnbsp; /SPANintroductory psychology, history of psychology, statistics, research methods, abnormal, clinical, physiological, cognitive, motivation; (2) directing student-centered research, preferably applied research.SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yesnbsp; /SPANIf the position becomes tenure-track, a greater emphasis will be placed on directing student research and the candidate will also be expected to (3) contribute to an interdisciplinary undergraduate general education curriculum and the department's masters program; and (4) develop and teach courses in the candidate's areas of expertise. The ideal candidate will have a Ph.D. in psychology and will provide recent evidence of success in college teaching and directing undergraduate research.SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yesnbsp; /SPANCandidates will be expected to support Loras College's mission statement.SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yesnbsp; /SPANLoras College is a four-year Catholic coeducational liberal arts institution.SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yesnbsp; /SPANIts 60-acre campus is located on one of Dubuque's highest bluffs, overlooking the Mississippi River at the junction of Iowa, Illinois, and Wisconsin.SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yesnbsp; /SPANBReview of applications will begin immediately and will continue until the position is filled./BSPAN style=mso-spacerun: yesnbsp; /SPANSend letter of application, curriculum vitae, three current letters of
RE: bystander effect and cross-cultural research
At 2:36 PM -0400 4/24/01, Michael Sylvester wrote: What is more real a confirmation bias or a scientific hypothesis? Apples are definitely more real than oranges! * PAUL K. BRANDON [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Psychology Dept Minnesota State University, Mankato * * 23 Armstrong Hall, Mankato, MN 56001 ph 507-389-6217 * *http://www.mankato.msus.edu/dept/psych/welcome.html*
RE: bystander effect and cross-cultural research
At 2:23 PM -0400 4/24/01, Michael Sylvester wrote: Observations (not one observation) is another form of research methodology.Not all topics are researchable.One ought to distinguish opinion from observations. Well (if not grammatically) said. Unfortunately, all forms of research methodology are not created equal (not a religious statement despite the allusion to creation). * PAUL K. BRANDON [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Psychology Dept Minnesota State University, Mankato * * 23 Armstrong Hall, Mankato, MN 56001 ph 507-389-6217 * *http://www.mankato.msus.edu/dept/psych/welcome.html*
Re: The Lucifer Principle - redirect
Beth Benoit wrote: I still think the topic would be good for TIPS but it sounds as if it's going to go off on a religious tangent again. Sorry everybody! It's alright, Beth, it's not your fault. In fact, maybe we can put all this religious talk to our advantage! Perhaps the Templeton Foundation will give each of us an award or provide some type of funding for us to continue our discussions. In fact, it might be a good idea to start a new list, along the lines of TIPS-METHODS and TIPS-DEVELOPTIPS-RELIGION, which deals with the interface between psychology and religion. This certainly should draw a large number of subscribers, I would think. Waiting for the lightning to strike, Jeff -- Jeffry P. Ricker, Ph.D. Office Phone: (480) 423-6213 9000 E. Chaparral Rd. FAX Number: (480) 423-6298 Psychology Department [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scottsdale Community College Scottsdale, AZ 85256-2626 Listowner: Psychologists Educating Students to Think Skeptically (PESTS) http://www.sc.maricopa.edu/sbscience/pests/index.html
Nonacademic jobs for psychology Ph.D.s
A recent Ph.D. in cognitive psychology is interested in looking for nonacademic positions. She asked me the following question: You don't happen to know a headhunter who works with PhDs out there, do you? Does anyone have an answer? Or is there any other relevant advice you can give to her? Jeff -- Jeffry P. Ricker, Ph.D. Office Phone: (480) 423-6213 9000 E. Chaparral Rd.FAX Number: (480) 423-6298 Psychology Department[EMAIL PROTECTED] Scottsdale Community College Scottsdale, AZ 85256-2626 Listowner: Psychologists Educating Students to Think Skeptically (PESTS) http://www.sc.maricopa.edu/sbscience/pests/index.html
RE: bystander effect and cross-cultural research
What is more real a confirmation bias or a scientific hypothesis? Michael Sylvester,PhD Daytona Beach,Florida Perhaps it is my clouded Eurocentric thinking, but I have no idea what this question is asking... Confirmation bias is most certainly real. That is, the phenomena exists, and is fairly well understood. Scientific hypotheses also surely exist. Let's try this one... if a scientific hypothesis is posited because of casual observations that are very likely susceptible to confirmation bias, is it a GOOD hypothesis? That is, would empirical data be likely to support the hypothesis? I am sure we are going to have to define what good means now... I hope that at the very least the other Eurocentrist empiricists understand where I am coming from... Fire when ready... Stephen W. Tuholski Ph.D. Asst. Professor Dept. of Psychology Southern Illinois U. at Edwardsville Edwardsville IL 62026 Phone: 618 650 5391 Fax: 618 650 5087 http://www.siue.edu/~stuhols Most people would sooner die than think; in fact, they do so. - Bertrand Russell ***
RE: Nonacademic jobs for psychology Ph.D.s
The Human Factors and Ergonomics Society http://www.hfes.org/ has an online placement service. The last time I checked it, you can search for jobs for free. Gary J. Klatsky, Ph. D. Department of Psychology[EMAIL PROTECTED] Oswego State University (SUNY) http://www.oswego.edu/~klatsky Oswego, NY 13126Voice: (315) 312-3474 -Original Message- From: Jeff Ricker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 5:55 PM To: TIPS Subject:Nonacademic jobs for psychology Ph.D.s A recent Ph.D. in cognitive psychology is interested in looking for nonacademic positions. She asked me the following question: You don't happen to know a headhunter who works with PhDs out there, do you? Does anyone have an answer? Or is there any other relevant advice you can give to her? Jeff -- Jeffry P. Ricker, Ph.D. Office Phone: (480) 423-6213 9000 E. Chaparral Rd.FAX Number: (480) 423-6298 Psychology Department[EMAIL PROTECTED] Scottsdale Community College Scottsdale, AZ 85256-2626 Listowner: Psychologists Educating Students to Think Skeptically (PESTS) http://www.sc.maricopa.edu/sbscience/pests/index.html
Re: Nonacademic jobs for psychology Ph.D.s
At 02:55 PM 4/24/2001 -0700, you wrote: Does anyone have an answer? Or is there any other relevant advice you can give to her? The Usability Professionals' Association has a job bank which might be relevant for your friend at: http://www.upassoc.org/html/job_bank.html Hope this helps... - Marc G. Marc Turner, MEd, Net+ Lecturer Head of Computer Operations Department of Psychology Southwest Texas State University San Marcos, TX 78666 phone: (512)245-2526 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Nonacademic jobs for psychology Ph.D.s
Jeff and others, You might have her try: www.headhunter.net www.monster.com Both sites have listing for nonacademic positions with a psychology background. Chuck + Charles M. Huffman, Ph.D. Chair, Psychology Dept. Cumberland College, Box 7990 Williamsburg, KY 40769 (606) 539-4422 + -Original Message- From: Jeff Ricker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 5:55 PM To: TIPS Subject: Nonacademic jobs for psychology Ph.D.s A recent Ph.D. in cognitive psychology is interested in looking for nonacademic positions. She asked me the following question: You don't happen to know a headhunter who works with PhDs out there, do you? Does anyone have an answer? Or is there any other relevant advice you can give to her? Jeff -- Jeffry P. Ricker, Ph.D. Office Phone: (480) 423-6213 9000 E. Chaparral Rd.FAX Number: (480) 423-6298 Psychology Department[EMAIL PROTECTED] Scottsdale Community College Scottsdale, AZ 85256-2626 Listowner: Psychologists Educating Students to Think Skeptically (PESTS) http://www.sc.maricopa.edu/sbscience/pests/index.html
Seeking advice on graduate training
Colleagues, I have a student who has expressed an interest in attending a graduate program that would allow her to develop expertise in working with people who are obese. In particular she would like to develop expertise that would allow her to approach this population from an holistic perspective, e.g., psychology, nutritional counseling, physiology, etc. Any suggestions, people to contact or ideas would be appreciated. Thanks, Bill * Bill Southerly, PhD Department of Psychology Frostburg State University Frostburg, MD 21532 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (301)-687-4778 *
RE: Topics that can't be researched
Mike wrote: This could be one of those suprisingly useful posts from Daytona. Can we come up with examples of such topics, other than silly ones like, How many angels can fit on the head of a pin? To start thing out, what about: 1. The existence of a supreme being. 2. The meaning of life. 3. The nature of good and evil. In fact, it could be argued, that _no_ purely philosophical concept, by it's nature, lends itself to being researched. You can determine the meaning of the terms, the roots of the belief, and the scientific influences such a belief may impose on the perceiver. But you _cannot_ research the topic itself in a scientific manner (e.g., try to prove or disprove the existence of a deity!). Rick -- Rick Adams Department of Social Sciences Jackson Community College Jackson, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... and the only measure of your worth and your deeds will be the love you leave behind when you're gone. --Fred Small, Everything Possible
RE: bystander effect and cross-cultural research
Michael Sylvester wrote: Observations (not one observation) is another form of research methodology. Not all topics are researchable. One ought to distinguish opinion from observations. Only if the observations are made scientifically. Because of the nature of my interests, the majority of my research _is_ observational (and therefore qualitative instead of quantitative in nature). There are _many_ topics that lend themselves far better to observational research than to quantification. But that doesn't imply that observational research should be any less rigidly scientific than quantative forms, only that a different methodology is called for. In the type of case you are referring to, you're confusing observational research with personal, not scientific, observations. While such anecdotal evidence is valuable, it _cannot_ take the place of more scientific approaches--if it did, we would have to accept ethnic observations of racists, sexists, and homophobes as having just as much validity as the scientific observations of social scientists, a patent absurdity. An observation needs to be carefully examined in terms of potential bias and observational accuracy before it should be treated as more than personal interpretation. Rick -- Rick Adams Department of Social Sciences Jackson Community College Jackson, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... and the only measure of your worth and your deeds will be the love you leave behind when you're gone. --Fred Small, Everything Possible
RE: bystander effect and cross-cultural research
Michael Sylvester wrote: In the classroom,I teach strictly scientific psychology and I even warn them not to commit the confirmation bias. Why do tipsters think that my writings on TIPS is a reflection of my teaching style? Perhaps because the list exists primarily to discuss the teaching of psychology? Presumably, if I were to join a list for anthropology instructors and made comments to the effect that I questioned the equality of minorities since my personal observations had demonstrated to me that they were inferior to my own race, it would be reasonable for members of that list to question whether or not I was teaching my classes in minority studies in a responsible manner. That I might be posting such comments to stir things up or for another non-professional reason would neither occur to anyone, nor justify my actions. Rick -- Rick Adams Department of Social Sciences Jackson Community College Jackson, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... and the only measure of your worth and your deeds will be the love you leave behind when you're gone. --Fred Small, Everything Possible
RE: bystander effect and cross-cultural research
Michael Sylvester wrote: But if these observations can be agreed upon by others then there is a consensus. True. On the other hand, since we know (from shudder research) that there is a consensus among the majority of US Citizens that the US system of government is _superior_ to that of every other nation; that country music is much better than opera; or that marijuana is a gateway drug that leads to heroin use . . . You _weren't_ claiming that consensus represents scientific truth, were you? Actually,the number of persons may not be the critical variable. True again. If two of us go into our yards, look upward, and simultaneously see that the moon is full, either: (1) both are perceiving the phenomenon accurately; (2) one of us is observing the phenomenon accurately and the other is either lying, misinterpreting what s/he is seeing, or hallucinating or; (3) both of us are lying, misinterpreting what we are seeing. In the first case, our consensus provides more than enough evidence to support a hypothesis that the moon is full. In the second case, clearly no consensus exists. Unfortunately, your arguments would seem to indicate that you believe that since a consensus exists in the third case as well as it does in the first case, it would be as accurate as the first. Even in research,baloney is still baloney even though it is researched. No, actually it's ground meat and meat by-products technically--and research is about technical accuracy, not popular beliefs. What is a flame anyway? It's a deliberate and unprovoked attack on an individual, instead of his/her ideas, aimed at silencing that individual unfairly. In many cases the purpose is to prevent that individual's arguments from being judged on their own merits by distracting from the issue and focusing on personalities instead. Or at least that's the consensus among most Internetworkers. Rick -- Rick Adams Department of Social Sciences Jackson Community College Jackson, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... and the only measure of your worth and your deeds will be the love you leave behind when you're gone. --Fred Small, Everything Possible
