Re: [tips] Help: experimental eye and brain

[Blaine Peden]

The video was The Psychologist and the Experiment 
(http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/32565856) and the second study in the video 
described the work by Austin Riesen (U CA Riverside) and John Crabtree: 
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/dev.420120404/abstract

blaine


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  From: michael sylvester 
  To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 2:50 PM
  Subject: [tips] Help: experimental eye and brain






  Watching the Chilean miners wearing those sunglasses bring me to recall a  
vision experiment depicted in the old CRM films where cats  that was raised in 
darkness soon after birth had problems negotiating a box maze to find the 
escape  route.
  I think it was an experiment by Held but don't quote on this.Obviously there 
are some major differences.
  It is my understanding that the miners' sunglasses are to prevent damage to 
the eye and not necessarily perceptual dysfunction.

  Michael "omnicentric" Sylvester,PhD
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[tips] Help: experimental eye and brain

[michael sylvester]

Watching the Chilean miners wearing those sunglasses bring me to recall a  
vision experiment depicted in the old CRM films where cats  that was raised in 
darkness soon after birth had problems negotiating a box maze to find the 
escape  route.
I think it was an experiment by Held but don't quote on this.Obviously there 
are some major differences.
It is my understanding that the miners' sunglasses are to prevent damage to the 
eye and not necessarily perceptual dysfunction.

Michael "omnicentric" Sylvester,PhD
Daytona Beach,Florida
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RE: [tips] behavioral dilemma

[Annette Taylor]

Thanks to everyone for their responses to this post. Much of what you all had 
to say was along the lines of what I was thinking but some new ideas were also 
presented and I wanted some validation for my piddly thoughts.

I'm going to go along with a consensus idea that he should start with a 
systematic recording of his observations rather than rely on his biased memory. 
From there I really think we have a good potential for doing something with 
this!

Annette

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Re: [tips] Freud and intellectuals

[Christopher D. Green]

Allen Esterson wrote:
> An addition to Stephen's list of quotes:
>
> Wolfgang Köhler, gestalt psychologist and ethologist:
>
> "I now turn to psychoanalysis, the source of more, and of darker, smog 
> than any other doctrine has produced." (Quoted in Percival Bailey, 
> *Sigmund the Unserene: A Tragedy in Three Acts*, 1965)
>
>   

I'm sure Koehler (trained as a physicist under Max Planck) had his 
legitimate doubts about psychoanalysis. One should keep in mind, also, 
the ongoing intellectual rivalry between Berlin and Vienna at work here. 
My wife once suggested to a friend of hers from Berlin, who was 
experiencing some personal difficulties, that she might seek out a 
therapist of counselor. The instant and definitive reply was "We are 
Prussian, not Austrian!" There is a religious aspect to the this rivalry 
as well (Prussian is Protestant, Austria Catholic). Interestingly, the 
one obvious conflict that was probably NOT at work in Koehler's remark 
was anti-semitism. The other major Gestalt theorists (Wertheimer, 
Koffka) were, of course. Jewish (though Koehler was not).

Chris
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Re: [tips] Freud and intellectuals

[Joan Warmbold]

Sorry Allen as I had made the incorrect assumption that you are a 
psychologist.  How lucky are we that you participate on TIPS.  And you 
did have a book in your hands as I noted on amazon a published critique 
of Freud--_Seduction Mirage: A Exploration of the Work of Sigmund 
Freud_, a book I certainly plan on purchasing.  But your post, in and of 
itself, was very compelling as well as humorous.  As you so aptly say at 
the end of one of Freud's convoluted explanations, "who could make this 
up.?!" 


Joan
Joan Warmbold Boggs
jwarm...@oakton.edu



Allen Esterson wrote:


Correction! I have a degree in physics from University College London, 
1958 vintage. I have to acknowledge that I only obtained a Second Class 
Honours Degree 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_undergraduate_degree_classification
  
. So how 
(as I'm sure some TIPSters are dying to know :-) -- others may switch 
off here!) did I end up doing research on Freud? Sometime in the early 
1980s a cousin (Jungian by inclination) made laudatory comments about 
Freud and suggested I should read his work. By good fortune, the only 
relevant book on the shelves of my local library contained the Wolf Man 
case history. I have to say that as I read Freud's analytic 
explanations the thought that went repeatedly through my mind was "How 
can anyone take this stuff seriously?" (See below for a glorious 
sample.)


I also came to the conclusion that a key individual (a servant girl 
"Grusha") from the patient's infancy who hazily emerged in a supposed 
recovered memory after more than four years of analysis, conveniently 
supplying what Freud called "the solution", was an invention. (As I was 
to discover, the Wolf Man told an interviewer many years later: "I 
cannot even remember this Grusha.") This led to further reading of 
works by, and about, Freud (Ellenberger, Sulloway). Following up 
Elizabeth Thornton's sceptical account of the seduction theory episode 
in *Freud and Cocaine* (1983), I checked out the original papers, and 
all Freud's later accounts of the episode. This led me to the 
conclusion that the whole thing (from the original papers to the final 
traditional story) was phoney. (Unbeknown to me, Frank Cioffi had 
already arrived at the same conclusion – see "Was Freud a Liar?" (1974) 
in *Freud and the Question of Pseudoscience*.)


By that stage I thought "I've got a book on my hands", and set about a 
close reading of other case histories and of more of Freud's writings, 
especially his general accounts of psychoanalysis. Getting published is 
another story…



  


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RE: Re:[tips] Freud and intellectuals

[Annette Taylor]

I stand corrected; I think the math part resonated because my oldest son was a 
college math major; the physics got lost in the memory void. What would Freud 
think of that? ;-)

Annette

Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph. D.
Professor, Psychological Sciences
University of San Diego
5998 Alcala Park
San Diego, CA 92110
tay...@sandiego.edu

From: Allen Esterson [allenester...@compuserve.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 3:54 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: Re:[tips] Freud and intellectuals

Annette Taylor wrote:
>Our good friend Allen is indeed a non-psychologist
>scholar! Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure
>Allen is a mathematician by training and trade.

Correction! I have a degree in physics from University College London,
1958 vintage. I have to acknowledge that I only obtained a Second Class
Honours Degree
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_undergraduate_degree_classification
  – but that sufficed for me to know immediately that the widely
circulating claim that Einstein's first wife did the (quite elementary)
mathematics for his celebrated 1905 Special Relativity paper was
nonsense:
http://www.esterson.org/Who_Did_Einsteins_Mathematics.htm

I plied my trade teaching pre-University level mathematics and physics
in Colleges of Further Education in London for some 35 years. So how
(as I'm sure some TIPSters are dying to know :-) -- others may switch
off here!) did I end up doing research on Freud? Sometime in the early
1980s a cousin (Jungian by inclination) made laudatory comments about
Freud and suggested I should read his work. By good fortune, the only
relevant book on the shelves of my local library contained the Wolf Man
case history. I have to say that as I read Freud's analytic
explanations the thought that went repeatedly through my mind was "How
can anyone take this stuff seriously?" (See below for a glorious
sample.)

I also came to the conclusion that a key individual (a servant girl
"Grusha") from the patient's infancy who hazily emerged in a supposed
recovered memory after more than four years of analysis, conveniently
supplying what Freud called "the solution", was an invention. (As I was
to discover, the Wolf Man told an interviewer many years later: "I
cannot even remember this Grusha.") This led to further reading of
works by, and about, Freud (Ellenberger, Sulloway). Following up
Elizabeth Thornton's sceptical account of the seduction theory episode
in *Freud and Cocaine* (1983), I checked out the original papers, and
all Freud's later accounts of the episode. This led me to the
conclusion that the whole thing (from the original papers to the final
traditional story) was phoney. (Unbeknown to me, Frank Cioffi had
already arrived at the same conclusion – see "Was Freud a Liar?" (1974)
in *Freud and the Question of Pseudoscience*.)

By that stage I thought "I've got a book on my hands", and set about a
close reading of other case histories and of more of Freud's writings,
especially his general accounts of psychoanalysis. Getting published is
another story…

Excerpt from the Wolf Man case history: The following passage is part
of Freud's explanation for his patient's habitual constipation (and the
administration of regular enemas by a servant) in terms of symbolic
rebirth. (Incidentally, we know from the interview with the Wolf Man
much later that the constipation was caused by a country doctor in
Russia giving him inappropriate medicine that permanently damaged his
intestinal mucous membranes. The Wolf Man said that during his 4+ year
analysis: "I somehow managed to come by itself, a few times. And Freud
wrote [in the case history] 'We've been successful!' No such thing!"):

"The stool was the child, as which he was born a second time, to a
happier life…  The necessary condition of his re-birth was that he
should have an enema administered to him by a man… This can only have
meant that he had identified himself with his mother, that the man was
acting as his father, and that the enema was repeating the act of
copulation, as the fruit of which the excrement-baby (which was once
again himself) would be born. The phantasy of re-birth was therefore
bound up closely with the necessary condition of sexual satisfaction
 from a man. So the translation now runs to this effect: only on
condition that he took the woman's place and substituted himself for
his mother, and thus let himself be sexually satisfied by his father
and bore him a child – only on that condition would his illness leave
him. Here, therefore, the phantasy of re-birth was simply a mutilated
and censored version of the homosexual wishful phantasy." (Freud, 1918,
SE. 17, p. 100)

Never was it more justly said "You couldn't make it up!"

Reference in relation to the Wolf Man case history:

Stanley Fish: "The Primal Scene of Persuasion", in *Unauthorized
Freud*, ed. F. Crews (1998), pp. 186-199. Fish observes in relation to
Freud's extraordinary gift for

Re: [tips] Freud and intellectuals

[Allen Esterson]

An addition to Stephen's list of quotes:

Wolfgang Köhler, gestalt psychologist and ethologist:

"I now turn to psychoanalysis, the source of more, and of darker, smog 
than any other doctrine has produced." (Quoted in Percival Bailey, 
*Sigmund the Unserene: A Tragedy in Three Acts*, 1965)

And for Frederick Crews taking on all comers on psychoanalysis in a 
remarkable tour de force:
F. Crews (ed), *The Memory Wars: Freud's Legacy in Dispute*, A New York 
Review book, 1995.

Allen Esterson
Former lecturer, Science Department
Southwark College, London
allenester...@compuserve.com
http://www.esterson.org

Re: [tips] Freud and intellectuals
sblack
Wed, 13 Oct 2010 07:20:05 -0700
> Joan Warmbold asks:
> >Has there ever been a non-psychologist scholar who
> >has challenged Freud's theories?
>

Allen E. replied:

> As is implied in Joan's question, there have been many eminent
> psychologists who have challenged psychoanalysis from its inception

As for non-psychologists, let's not forget the tenacious Frederick
Crews, professor of English at the University of California (just
cited by Allen in his previous post),  for his devastating critiques
of psychoanalytic nonsense (including, for starters, the inspired
mockery in "The Pooh Perplex").

Or the Nobel-prize winning zoologist and immunologist Peter
Medawar, who said (in "Pluto's Republic", 1982):

"There is some truth in psychoanalysis, as there is in
mesmerism and phrenology, but considered in its entirety,
psychoanalysis won't do. It is an end-product, like a dinosaur or
a Zeppelin; no better theory can ever be constructed on its
ruins, which will remain as one of the saddest and strangest of
all landmarks in the history of 20th century thought."

(Amen, I say).

Or the great philosopher of science Karl Popper, whose
assessment was:

"[Freud's theory] although posing as science, had in fact more in
common with primitive myth than with science... it resembled
astrology rather than astronomy"; (Popper (1965). Conjectures
and Refutations (2nd ed.)).

Or the neurologist Percival Bailey, who observed in an essay
titled "Sigmund Freud: Scientific Period" (an oxymoron,
perhaps):

"If you will accept the term science in the sense of
Naturwissenschaft, or _natural_ science, Freud didn't do any
more "natural scientific" research after 1897 [before "The
Interpretation of Dreams"].  He ended there. After that what he
did was speculate. He never tried to subject any of his ideas to
experimental tests, and furthermore, he was quite hostile to the
suggestion...So I stopped at 1897 because that was the last
time that he wrote a scientific paper in the sense of
Naturwissenschaft". (Bailey, 1964).

(quotes all recycled from long-forgotten posts of mine to TIPS).


Stephen



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Re: [tips] Freud and intellectuals

[sblack]

> Joan Warmbold asks:
> >Has there ever been a non-psychologist scholar who
> >has challenged Freud's theories?
> 

Allen E. replied:

> As is implied in Joan's question, there have been many eminent 
> psychologists who have challenged psychoanalysis from its inception

As for non-psychologists, let's not forget the tenacious Frederick 
Crews, professor of English at the University of California (just 
cited by Allen in his previous post),  for his devastating critiques 
of psychoanalytic nonsense (including, for starters, the inspired 
mockery in "The Pooh Perplex"). 

Or the Nobel-prize winning zoologist and immunologist Peter 
Medawar, who said (in "Pluto's Republic", 1982):

"There is some truth in psychoanalysis, as there is in 
mesmerism and phrenology, but considered in its entirety, 
psychoanalysis won't do. It is an end-product, like a dinosaur or 
a Zeppelin; no better theory can ever be constructed on its 
ruins, which will remain as one of the saddest and strangest of 
all landmarks in the history of 20th century thought."  

(Amen, I say).

Or the great philosopher of science Karl Popper, whose 
assessment was:

"[Freud's theory] although posing as science, had in fact more in 
common with primitive myth than with science... it resembled 
astrology rather than astronomy"; (Popper (1965). Conjectures 
and Refutations (2nd ed.)).

Or the neurologist Percival Bailey, who observed in an essay 
titled "Sigmund Freud: Scientific Period" (an oxymoron, 
perhaps):

"If you will accept the term science in the sense of 
Naturwissenschaft, or _natural_ science, Freud didn't do any 
more "natural scientific" research after 1897 [before "The 
Interpretation of Dreams"].  He ended there. After that what he 
did was speculate. He never tried to subject any of his ideas to 
experimental tests, and furthermore, he was quite hostile to the 
suggestion...So I stopped at 1897 because that was the last 
time that he wrote a scientific paper in the sense of 
Naturwissenschaft". (Bailey, 1964).  

(quotes all recycled from long-forgotten posts of mine to TIPS).


Stephen


Stephen L. Black, Ph.D.  
Professor of Psychology, Emeritus   
Bishop's University   
e-mail:  sblack at ubishops.ca
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RE: [tips] Chile: Eurocentric Psy need not apply

[Lilienfeld, Scott O]

This is a rare but welcome case in which I largely agree with our fellow 
TIPSTER Michael Sylvester.  In watching some of the coverage last night (and I 
too was overjoyed and deeply moved by the sight of the rescues), I was 
similarly struck by some of the confident predictions of mental health experts 
that many of these miners are likely to experience posttraumatic stress 
disorder (PTSD) or other severe adjustment reactions upon reintegration into 
everyday life.  Similar dire predictions of impending PTSD, by the way, were 
made by scores of mental health experts following the horrific 9/11 attacks, 
when data showed that the rates of PTSD increased only modestly, and even then 
only in lower Manhattan.

  We shall see, but I predict (and of course hope) otherwise.  I don't 
doubt that many miners will experience some mild to moderate PTSD symptoms 
(e.g., intrusive recollections) in the coming days and weeks, but it's not all 
at clear that many or most will experience PTSD in the coming months.  More and 
more of the data from researchers like Bonnano, Wortman, and others suggest 
that resilience in the face of extreme adversity is the norm, not the 
exception, and Michael S. may well be correct that the family cohesiveness in 
much of Chilean society may further militate against marked negative adjustment 
reactions.  I further suspect, along with Michael, that their major adjustment 
problems may derive from dealing with the challenges of their newfound 
celebrity and the loss (hopefully only short-term, but perhaps long-term) of 
their privacy.


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Editor, Scientific Review of Mental Health Practice
Department of Psychology, Room 473 Psychology and Interdisciplinary Sciences 
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Psychology Today Blog: 
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50 Great Myths of Popular Psychology:
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Scientific American Mind: Facts and Fictions in Mental Health Column:
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The Master in the Art of Living makes little distinction between his work and 
his play,
his labor and his leisure, his mind and his body, his education and his 
recreation,
his love and his intellectual passions.  He hardly knows which is which.
He simply pursues his vision of excellence in whatever he does,
leaving others to decide whether he is working or playing.
To him - he is always doing both.

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From: michael sylvester [mailto:msylves...@copper.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:53 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: [tips] Chile: Eurocentric Psy need not apply




The release of the Chilean trapped miners is a joy for all of us.But the 
comments made by all those consultants-psychologists and other so called 
experts on the effects of confinement and post confinement issues were really 
driving me up the wall.It is as if those experts pull out all the knowledge 
they learn and practiced from their
Eurocentric training and think that they can apply them to the Copper-centric 
paradigm of Chile. When those Eurocentric talk about "privacy concerns" 
,"reintegration in society",post traumatic stress syndrome" and so on,my 
reaction was "gimme a break".
 Chilean society and the other countries in the Americas are collectivist 
cultures where there are a large network of support.(La familia).American
society is robustly individualistic  where there are more challenges and 
conflicts in modes of adjustment.As to how to deal with their new found fame 
and fortune,Chile's miners are more likely to be generous and help improve 
their status and la familia.The only problems  they may have to ward off are 
those media capitalists whose constant badgering just to make a dollar could 
probably be more irritating than what they experienced in the mine.
There is always a danger of being incorrect when we try to apply and impose 
a U.S- centric and Eurocentric behavioral model on other cultures where modes 
of adjustment can vary.

Michael "omnicentric" Sylvester,PhD
Daytona Beach,Florida









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Re: [tips] Jackson or Furlong, Lovelace, & Lovelace

[David Kreiner]

Marte, I have used Jackson's book for quite a while and have been very 
satisfied with it. 
 
Dave
 
David Kreiner
Professor of Psychology 
University of Central Missouri
Lovinger 
Warrensburg MO 64093

krei...@ucmo.edu


>>> Marte Fallshore  10/12/2010 10:27 AM >>>

 
I am looking for feedback on a couple of combine research methods and 
statistics textbooks. Has anybody used either of the following textbooks? What 
did you think of them? If you used them, would you use them again? Why? If you 
won't use them again, why? Did you use some other combined textbook that you 
were really happy with (besides Heiman who is awesome but beyond my students)?
 
Jackson, SL (2009). Research methods and statistics: A critical thinking 
approach (3rd ed.). Wadsworth.
 
Furlong, N., Lovelace, E., & Lovelace, K. (2000). Research methods and 
statistics: An integrated approach. Wadsworth.
 
As usual, if there is interest I am happy to summarize my findings. Thanks for 
your help,
 
Marte
 
 

Marte Fallshore
Department of Psychology
Central Washington Univ.
400 E University Way
Ellensburg, WA 98926-7575

509/963-3670
509/963-2307 (fax)

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When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. 
When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist. 
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400 E University Way
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509/963-3670
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When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist. 
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[tips] Chile: Eurocentric Psy need not apply

[michael sylvester]

The release of the Chilean trapped miners is a joy for all of us.But the 
comments made by all those consultants-psychologists and other so called 
experts on the effects of confinement and post confinement issues were really 
driving me up the wall.It is as if those experts pull out all the knowledge 
they learn and practiced from their
Eurocentric training and think that they can apply them to the Copper-centric 
paradigm of Chile. When those Eurocentric talk about "privacy concerns" 
,"reintegration in society",post traumatic stress syndrome" and so on,my 
reaction was "gimme a break".
 Chilean society and the other countries in the Americas are collectivist 
cultures where there are a large network of support.(La familia).American
society is robustly individualistic  where there are more challenges and 
conflicts in modes of adjustment.As to how to deal with their new found fame 
and fortune,Chile's miners are more likely to be generous and help improve 
their status and la familia.The only problems  they may have to ward off are 
those media capitalists whose constant badgering just to make a dollar could 
probably be more irritating than what they experienced in the mine.
There is always a danger of being incorrect when we try to apply and impose 
a U.S- centric and Eurocentric behavioral model on other cultures where modes 
of adjustment can vary. 

Michael "omnicentric" Sylvester,PhD
Daytona Beach,Florida







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Re: [tips] Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation

[Michael Britt]

Great.  Thanks for sharing this Jon.


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On Oct 13, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Jonathan Mueller wrote:

>  
> 
> Okay, let me try this again.  If you go to my intro psych schedule page at
>  
> http://jonathan.mueller.faculty.noctrl.edu/100/100sched.htm
>  
> and go to April 16 you will find several links to resources on TMS including 
> some good video.  As a bonus, you will also find some deep brain stimulation 
> links there!
>  
> Jon
>  
>  
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> 
> >>> Michael Britt  10/12/2010 9:30 PM >>>
>  
> 
> I only recently heard about this treatment and it sounded a little fishy to 
> me, but I guess it's getting respect.
> 
> Brain Stimulation Found Effective As Long-Term Treatment for Depression
> 
> Anyone know anything else about it?
> 
> Michael
> 
> Michael Britt
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Re: [tips] Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation

[Jonathan Mueller]

Okay, let me try this again.  If you go to my intro psych schedule page at
 
http://jonathan.mueller.faculty.noctrl.edu/100/100sched.htm
 
and go to April 16 you will find several links to resources on TMS including 
some good video.  As a bonus, you will also find some deep brain stimulation 
links there!
 
Jon
 
 
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North Central College
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Naperville, IL 60540
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>>> Michael Britt  10/12/2010 9:30 PM >>>

 
I only recently heard about this treatment and it sounded a little fishy to me, 
but I guess it's getting respect.

Brain Stimulation Found Effective As Long-Term Treatment for Depression ( 
http://feeds.socialpsychology.org/~r/psychology-headlines/~3/dLNQoqLGTOA/redirect.php
 )

 ( 
http://feeds.socialpsychology.org/~r/psychology-headlines/~3/dLNQoqLGTOA/redirect.php
 )Anyone know anything else about it?

Michael

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Re: [tips] Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation

[Jonathan Mueller]

Whoops.  I pointed you to deep brain stimulation and not TMS.  I must be ready 
for a treatment of one or the other.
 
 
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>>> "Jonathan Mueller"  10/13/2010 8:25 AM >>>

 
Michael,
 
TMS has been found to be quite effective for motor disorders like Parkinsons, 
and is being applied now to a variety of other disorders and ailments.  A 
recent special edition issue of Neurological Focus addresses TMS and appears to 
be freely available online at
 
http://thejns.org/toc/foc/29/2
 
Jon
 
 
 
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>>> Michael Britt  10/12/2010 9:30 PM >>>

 
I only recently heard about this treatment and it sounded a little fishy to me, 
but I guess it's getting respect. 

Brain Stimulation Found Effective As Long-Term Treatment for Depression ( 
http://feeds.socialpsychology.org/~r/psychology-headlines/~3/dLNQoqLGTOA/redirect.php
 )

 ( 
http://feeds.socialpsychology.org/~r/psychology-headlines/~3/dLNQoqLGTOA/redirect.php
 )Anyone know anything else about it?

Michael

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Re: [tips] Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation

[Jonathan Mueller]

Michael,
 
TMS has been found to be quite effective for motor disorders like Parkinsons, 
and is being applied now to a variety of other disorders and ailments.  A 
recent special edition issue of Neurological Focus addresses TMS and appears to 
be freely available online at
 
http://thejns.org/toc/foc/29/2
 
Jon
 
 
 
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30 N. Brainard St.
Naperville, IL 60540
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jfmuel...@noctrl.edu
http://jonathan.mueller.faculty.noctrl.edu


>>> Michael Britt  10/12/2010 9:30 PM >>>

 
I only recently heard about this treatment and it sounded a little fishy to me, 
but I guess it's getting respect.

Brain Stimulation Found Effective As Long-Term Treatment for Depression ( 
http://feeds.socialpsychology.org/~r/psychology-headlines/~3/dLNQoqLGTOA/redirect.php
 )

 ( 
http://feeds.socialpsychology.org/~r/psychology-headlines/~3/dLNQoqLGTOA/redirect.php
 )Anyone know anything else about it?

Michael

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Re:[tips] Freud and intellectuals

[Allen Esterson]

Annette Taylor wrote:
>Our good friend Allen is indeed a non-psychologist
>scholar! Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure
>Allen is a mathematician by training and trade.

Correction! I have a degree in physics from University College London, 
1958 vintage. I have to acknowledge that I only obtained a Second Class 
Honours Degree 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_undergraduate_degree_classification
  – but that sufficed for me to know immediately that the widely 
circulating claim that Einstein's first wife did the (quite elementary) 
mathematics for his celebrated 1905 Special Relativity paper was 
nonsense:
http://www.esterson.org/Who_Did_Einsteins_Mathematics.htm

I plied my trade teaching pre-University level mathematics and physics 
in Colleges of Further Education in London for some 35 years. So how 
(as I'm sure some TIPSters are dying to know :-) -- others may switch 
off here!) did I end up doing research on Freud? Sometime in the early 
1980s a cousin (Jungian by inclination) made laudatory comments about 
Freud and suggested I should read his work. By good fortune, the only 
relevant book on the shelves of my local library contained the Wolf Man 
case history. I have to say that as I read Freud's analytic 
explanations the thought that went repeatedly through my mind was "How 
can anyone take this stuff seriously?" (See below for a glorious 
sample.)

I also came to the conclusion that a key individual (a servant girl 
"Grusha") from the patient's infancy who hazily emerged in a supposed 
recovered memory after more than four years of analysis, conveniently 
supplying what Freud called "the solution", was an invention. (As I was 
to discover, the Wolf Man told an interviewer many years later: "I 
cannot even remember this Grusha.") This led to further reading of 
works by, and about, Freud (Ellenberger, Sulloway). Following up 
Elizabeth Thornton's sceptical account of the seduction theory episode 
in *Freud and Cocaine* (1983), I checked out the original papers, and 
all Freud's later accounts of the episode. This led me to the 
conclusion that the whole thing (from the original papers to the final 
traditional story) was phoney. (Unbeknown to me, Frank Cioffi had 
already arrived at the same conclusion – see "Was Freud a Liar?" (1974) 
in *Freud and the Question of Pseudoscience*.)

By that stage I thought "I've got a book on my hands", and set about a 
close reading of other case histories and of more of Freud's writings, 
especially his general accounts of psychoanalysis. Getting published is 
another story…

Excerpt from the Wolf Man case history: The following passage is part 
of Freud's explanation for his patient's habitual constipation (and the 
administration of regular enemas by a servant) in terms of symbolic 
rebirth. (Incidentally, we know from the interview with the Wolf Man 
much later that the constipation was caused by a country doctor in 
Russia giving him inappropriate medicine that permanently damaged his 
intestinal mucous membranes. The Wolf Man said that during his 4+ year 
analysis: "I somehow managed to come by itself, a few times. And Freud 
wrote [in the case history] 'We've been successful!' No such thing!"):

"The stool was the child, as which he was born a second time, to a 
happier life…  The necessary condition of his re-birth was that he 
should have an enema administered to him by a man… This can only have 
meant that he had identified himself with his mother, that the man was 
acting as his father, and that the enema was repeating the act of 
copulation, as the fruit of which the excrement-baby (which was once 
again himself) would be born. The phantasy of re-birth was therefore 
bound up closely with the necessary condition of sexual satisfaction 
 from a man. So the translation now runs to this effect: only on 
condition that he took the woman's place and substituted himself for 
his mother, and thus let himself be sexually satisfied by his father 
and bore him a child – only on that condition would his illness leave 
him. Here, therefore, the phantasy of re-birth was simply a mutilated 
and censored version of the homosexual wishful phantasy." (Freud, 1918, 
SE. 17, p. 100)

Never was it more justly said "You couldn't make it up!"

Reference in relation to the Wolf Man case history:

Stanley Fish: "The Primal Scene of Persuasion", in *Unauthorized 
Freud*, ed. F. Crews (1998), pp. 186-199. Fish observes in relation to 
Freud's extraordinary gift for persuasive writing: "Although Freud will 
repeatedly urge us… to take our 'independent share' in the work, that 
independence has long been taken from us. The judgement he will soon 
solicit is a judgement he already controls."

Allen Esterson
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Southwark College, London
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[tips] Random Thought: Feeling Dr. Seuss-ish

[Louis E. Schmier]

I was going back to my "China Diary" until I read a "stopped-in-my-tracks" 
journal entry this past week from a student I'll call Sarah:  "I've never 
really had someone  believing in me until your class.  My whole life my parents 
have always been negative towards me. Anytime I've told them what I wanted to 
go out for in school or what I wanted for my goals in life or what I wanted to 
do for a living my father ALWAYS had a comment 'You're not good enough' or 
'You're not gonna be able to do that,' and my mother would ALWAYS say that 
'You're not talented enough for this' or 'You're not smart enough for that.'  I 
never heard a positive and supportive and encouraging word from either of them. 
 My teachers never encouraged me.  They always said and treated me, even 
ignored me, like I was just average or plain and mediocre and not worth their 
time and attention.  I guess I started believing them and acting that way.  
Even my boyfriend puts me down, and did it hard like I was nothing.  No, I'll 
take that back.  I realize now because of those 'words for the day' of yours 
that you write on the board each day, and our talk about for a few minutes in 
class, and that "great job" you whispered to me after we sang, that I'm letting 
him and everyone else put me down, including myself.  No, more anymore.  Like 
you said, I have capability to be a GHPer [Georgia high school Governor's 
Honors Program].  I'm finally realizing that my parents and all of them, and 
even me, especially me, are so very wrong, and that I can do whatever I want as 
long as I try my hardest. Oops, I meant DO whatever it takes ('there is no 
try'--Yoda is right).  Your class has helped me to open my own eyes to see this 
because your eyes and heart somehow are on each of us.  I never thought I was 
creative, but I contributed a lot to the Dr. Seuss book.  I never believed I 
had any imagination, but I helped write a lot of the the lyric lines to the rap 
song.  I never thought I could even get up and talk in front of a group of 
people, yet alone sing! But, I did it!  I did do it!  I did do it!  And, I was 
more than just okay. I was good and I felt so good and proud of myself 
afterwards, especially after what you said to me, like I could do anything now. 
 I'm beginning to see in me what you saw first.  I don't have to be a shy 
follower.  I can be a leader, but first as you told me I have to learn to lead 
myself.  Making learning so much fun, your passion for teaching, your caring 
for each of us is so strong no matter what, inspires me to chase after my 
dreams.  I am now starting to believe there is absolutely nothing that can stop 
me from catching them and making them real.  I'm gonna fight harder than ever 
to take advantage of anything new that comes my way.  I know it won't be easy 
breaking my old habits, but, like you said, I'm going to have to have the 
courage to think and act 'baby' and 'bicycle.'  And, like you wrote one day on 
the board, 'no step on a great journey is small.'  Sculpture project, here I 
come.  Who said I'm not an artist?  Another step out from my enclosed box."

So, I'm so excited and expectant about what sculpture they'll come up with and 
bring in after our silly Fall Break to teach each other.  It's put me in such a 
"Dr. Seuss-ish" mood.  Am I getting ahead of the game?  Should I wait until I 
see their sculptures?  I don't think so, not after Sarah's words.  I've heard 
their songs and read their lyrics; I've heard and read their Dr. Seuss books.  
Now, as they prepare to sculpt, I've read their one page individual issue 
papers; I've read their consensus community issue papers; I've read their daily 
journal entries.  In class, I've seen them exchange information, pour over the 
textbook, talk with each other, read and re-read the project rules, peer at the 
examples of earlier sculptures, write their issue papers, put their heads 
together, make sketches, head off to the library, and arrange to go together to 
buy stuff.  And, to cap it off, was Sarah's journal entry.  So, in confident 
expectation, I just wrote a serious Dr. Seuss-like poem, more of an "Ode to 
Sarah, that raises a lot of questions for so many of us academics about all 
those Sarahs in our classrooms.  Here goes:

WHEN YOU DARED TO DARE

Do you see?  More than just a wee?
How wrong it is to say, "That's not me?"
Once you get out of the confusing maize
how much you can amaze?
You took the chance to break down your imprisoning wall
that is not small thing to do at all

Do you see?  More than just a wee?
You have imagination;
And you used it by the ton;
You have imagination
And you had a lot of fun.
You have creativity;
And you used it more than just an itty-bitty;
WHENYOUDAREDTODARE

Creativity!  Imagination!
You let them both be found;
You let them both resound!
You gave yourself freedom
You felt your gleedom
WHENYOUDAREDTODARE

You see
They're in you, you know.
You can find them--
You just hav

Re:[tips] Freud and intellectuals

[Allen Esterson]

Joan Warmbold asks:
>Has there ever been a non-psychologist scholar who
>has challenged Freud's theories?

As is implied in Joan's question, there have been many eminent 
psychologists who have challenged psychoanalysis from its inception, 
e.g, Pierre Janet made perspicacious observations on Freud's 
methodology in public debates, and in the 1930s William McDougall 
published devastating critiques of major parts of Freudian theory. 
(Psychoanalysts largely ignored specific criticisms and blithely went 
on repeating their contentions as if they had never been rebutted. 
Freud's attitude was spelled out in his "History of the Psychoanalytic 
Movement" [1914}: "I knew very well how to account for the behaviour of 
my opponents... I made up my mind not to answer my opponents, and so 
far as my influence went, to restrain others from polemics.")

To rescue the reputation of philosophers in regard to Freud ( :-) ): 
Sidney Hook, Ernest Nagel, Michael Scriven, Adolf Grünbaum, among 
others, presented penetrating critiques of different aspects of 
psychoanalysis at a conference organised by the New York University 
Institute of Philosophy for eminent philosophers and psychoanalysts, 
plus a few psychologists and psychiatrists. The contributions were 
published in *Psychoanalysis, Scientific Method, and Philosophy*, ed. 
S. Hook (1959). Another philosopher, Frank Cioffi, started publishing 
similarly penetrating critiques of Freud's writings in the 1970s 
(reprinted in *Freud and the Question of Pseudoscience*, 1998).

The philosopher and social anthropologist Ernest Gellner published an 
analysis of psychoanalytic ideas in *The Psychoanalytic Movement: Or 
The Coming of Unreason* (1985), a book both devastating in its logic 
and wickedly amusing in its presentation. (Sample of chapter titles: 
"Transference (Greater Love Has No Man)", "Psycho-hydraulics", "A 
Cunning Bastard", "The Trickster", "Freud and the Art of Daemon 
Maintenance" and "La Therapie Imaginaire" – highly recommended!)

Finally: Ludwig Wittgenstein, while ambiguous in his attitude towards 
Freud, made the illuminating comment: "I, too, was greatly impressed 
when I first read Freud. He's extraordinary – of course he is full of 
fishy thinking and his charm and the charm of his subject is so great 
that you may easily be fooled…" (But following more such comments, he 
added: "All this, of course, doesn't detract from Freud's extraordinary 
scientific achievement" – a view that few of the philosophers at the 
above-cited NYU seminar would have endorsed.)

Allen Esterson
Former lecturer, Science Department
Southwark College, London
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From:Joan Warmbold 
Subject:Re: Freud and intellectuals
Date:   Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:06:17 -0500

I've noted this phenomena also Allen and my hypothesis has been that it
was the esoteric, complex and inaccessible nature of Freud's theories
that appealed to intellectuals.  Ironically, I suspect that
intellectuals are more easily seduced by the style of his
presentation--i.e., degree of eloquence and complexity that prevented
them from perceiving the underlying use of "rhetorical strategies."
I've also noted that, in general, east coast intellectual publications,
as per the New Yorker, still appear to be enthralled with Freud's.   
Has
there ever been a non-psychologist scholar who has challenged Freud's
theories?

Joan
jwarm...@oakton.edu

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From:   Christopher D. Green 
Subject:Re: Freud and intellectuals
Date:   Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:48:41 -0400
Joan Warmbold wrote:
Has there ever been a non-psychologist scholar who has challenged 
Freud's theories?

Well, there's Allen. :-)

Chris
--
Christopher D. Green
Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, ON M3J 1P3
Canada



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