[TMIC] TV program extra
I saw on the TV show Extra a woman who takes Botox every 4 months into her legs to help relieve the spasticity caused by MS. Has any of you tried Botox and if so with what results. Rob in New Jersey
Re: [TMIC] TV program extra
*Hi Rob,* ** *Some of the members at my Devic's Advocacy group have gotten botox injections for spasticity and have had moderately decent results.* ** *Gracie*
Re: [TMIC] Re: Alas, the joys of having TM
Jeanne,I'm right there with you on thatbut I'm not working so I haven't had the "pleasure" of releasing a "butt sneeze" (that's my humorous name for them) around anyone but my familyI always get the evil eye from my wife when we're in bed and it happens..but she knows I can't help it...O...the wonders of TMKevinFrom: Trudy Ogilvie mother...@gmail.comTo: jrushton jrush...@columbiaenergyllc.comCc: tmic tmic-list@eskimo.comSent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 11:23:14 PMSubject: [TMIC] Re: Alas, the joys of having TM I love it, I absolutely love it Isn't it the absolute worst... not to be too gross but some go on forever!!! Thanks for sharing I would bet there are a few more "embarrassing stories " out there. again thanks for a good laugh Jeanne! with much loveTrudy On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:59 AM, jrushton jrush...@columbiaenergyllc.com wrote: I'm going to tell on myself after reading Trudy and Patti's e-mails about working... I was a full time hard working lead nurse when the TM hit and of course, was off for quite some time due to the paralysis. The clinic insisted that I not worry, that they were going to keep my position (I think because nobody else wanted it!! :)) for whenever and however I was able to return. They even wanted to set up a room where I could rest and nap if I needed to. When I was ready to try, I had to figure out how toget there which was 40 miles so they insisted on taking turns coming to get and take me back home! FinallyJack worked with me helping me get back to driving and I have NO idea how I did it but I did. So the big daycame and off I went.Ihad called them to let them know I was on my way and when I got there, there were pictures and signs all over the place showing everyone with this horrified look on their faces. Such fun. Anyway,I didn't work one-on-one with patientslike I did when I was just nursing...I just walked around being bossy!! I liked that and when I got back they had a walker all duded up with streamers, a horn, stickers, and a basket. Well, if they got smart with me, they got a whack from my walker wheel. They were scared to death of me...rght. One day one of the nurses was about to give an allergy shot and she got a phone call and asked me to give the shot...no problem. As Iwas standing right next to the patient giving him his shot, what happened but I released agreat, big, loud fart The patient was one I knew well and he was gracious enough to not even flinch or let on like he heard but there was NO way he couldn't. I finished, went back to my desk and put my hands to my face and cried.The nurse that I was helping came right in and asked what was wrong and began crying right along with me until I started laughing and then we had a hard time stopping."Here I get to be a nurse for the first time in a long, long time and what do I do but let loose with a great big fart!" You know that with this TM, some of us lose control of bodily functions and that was one of them. Of course,it took all of about five minutes for everyone to hear about it so it was a day of laughter all day long. Ijust wasn't able to continue working and had to put my resignation in not long after that and was given a wonderful going away party and guess what was thebig highlight??? Anyway, like I said...this is a story telling on myself...Jeanne in Dayton ---Original Message--- From: Trudy Ogilvie Date: 1/27/2009 11:17:18 AM To: Patricia Cooley Cc: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Tuesday am Patti, You will do just fine. Just getting back to work will give you the energy to hang in there. I know exactly how you feel. I had to go back with a walker. It was a bit humiliating but God gives us what we need when we need it. So stay strong, remember you are never alone, God will always send you an angel to help you if you need it. I cannot open many of the heavy doors at school, clinics etc. but it seems that there's always some kind person ready to help me - some much older than I and some very surprising young angry looking kids that turn out to be angels.!!! At first my pride would not let me accept the help but I have learned it is good to give and to receive! Have wonderful day let us know how it goes! Trudy On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Patricia Cooley patticoo...@wi.rr.com wrote: KIM – I AM SO GLAD YOUR SURGERY IS FINALLY OVER. WE WERE ALL THINKING AND PRAYING FOR YOU THAT ALL GOES WELL. I HAD THE COMPRESSION WRAPS WHEN I FIRST WAS IN THE HOSPITAL. THEY FELT GREAT. I WISH I HAD THEM AT HOME. TODAY I AM A LITTLE NERVOUS AS I AM GOING BACK TO WORK TODAY FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 7 MONTHS. I WAS ONLY WORKING PART TIME (2 AFTERNOONS A WEEK) AT THE SWITCHBOARD IN OUR LOCAL MEDICAL CLINIC, BUT I ENJOYED GETTING OUT WITH PEOPLE. I HOPE I HAVE THE STRENGTH TO LAST ALL AFTERNOON. I HOPE YOU FINALLY GET A FULL NIGHTS SLEEP VERY SOON. TAKE CARE. PATTI - WISCONSIN From: kimr1...@bellsouth.net
[TMIC] Bladder control
Hi Guys Am I right in thinking that bladder control can be an issue with TM? My TM husband thinks its not, and that his visits to the loo 7-10 times a night and needing to suddenly pee urgently at any time have nothing to do with his TM! Kind regards Sally in the UK Sally Wilkinson Business Development Manager Genesis Design The Barn Ipsden Oxfordshire OX10 6AS +44(0)1491 682277 sally.wilkin...@genesisdesign.uk.com
Re: [TMIC] Re: Alas, the joys of having TM
"If I scoot, then I poot"!!! I do that a lot in my walker,, you would think the darn thing has some type of defect, can't be me! LOL -- Original message from "jrushton" jrush...@columbiaenergyllc.com: -- I swear, Trudy, telling on and laughing at myself is the only way I can make it thru all that we have to put up with living with this TM and it's little 'side kicks'!!! I've made my family do the same thing and we actually have taken something pretty awful into a 'we can make it' situation! Hugs for you all but don't hug me too hard or you know what can happen!!! Jeanne in Dayton ---Original Message--- From: Trudy Ogilvie Date: 1/28/2009 10:23:26 PM To: jrushton Cc: tmic Subject: [TMIC] Re: Alas, the joys of having TM I love it, I absolutely love it Isn't it the absolute worst... not to be too gross but some go on forever!!! Thanks for sharing I would bet there are a few more "embarrassing stories " out there. again thanks for a good laugh Jeanne! with much love Trudy On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:59 AM, jrushton jrush...@columbiaenergyllc.com wrote: I'm going to tell on myself after reading Trudy and Patti's e-mails about working... I was a full time hard working lead nurse when the TM hit and of course, was off for quite some time due to the paralysis. The clinic insisted that I not worry, that they were going to keep my position (I think because nobody else wanted it!! :)) for whenever and however I was able to return. They even wanted to set up a room where I could rest and nap if I needed to. When I was ready to try, I had to figure out how toget there which was 40 miles so they insisted on taking turns coming to get and take me back home! FinallyJack worked with me helping me get back to driving and I have NO idea how I did it but I did. So the big daycame and off I went.Ihad called them to let them know I was on my way and when I got there, there were pictures and signs all over the place showing everyone with this horrified look on their faces. Such fun. Anyway,I didn't work one-on-one with patientslike I did when I was just nursing...I just walked around being bossy!! I liked that and when I got back they had a walker all duded up with streamers, a horn, stickers, and a basket. Well, if they got smart with me, they got a whack from my walker wheel. They were scared to death of me...rght. One day one of the nurses was about to give an allergy shot and she got a phone call and asked me to give the shot...no problem. As Iwas standing right next to the patient giving him his shot, what happened but I released agreat, big, loud fart The patient was one I knew well and he was gracious enough to not even flinch or let on like he heard but there was NO way he couldn't. I finished, went back to my desk and put my hands to my face and cried.The nurse that I was helping came right in and asked what was wrong and began crying right along with me until I started laughing and then we had a hard time stopping."Here I get to be a nurse for the first time in a long, long time and what do I do but let loose with a great big fart!" You know that with this TM, some of us lose control of bodily functions and that was one of them. Of course,it took all of about five minutes for everyone to hear about it so it was a day of laughter all day long. Ijust wasn't able to continue working and had to put my resignation in not long after that and was given a wonderful going away party and guess what was thebig highlight??? Anyway, like I said...this is a story telling on myself...Jeanne in Dayton ---Original Message--- From: Trudy Ogilvie Date: 1/27/2009 11:17:18 AM To: Patricia Cooley Cc: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Tuesday am Patti, You will do just fine. Just getting back to work will give you the energy to hang in there. I know exactly how you feel. I had to go back with a walker. It was a bit humiliating but God gives us what we need when we need it. So stay strong, remember you are never alone, God will always send you an angel to help you if you need it. I cannot open many of the heavy doors at school, clinics etc. but it seems that there's always some kind person ready to help me - some much older than I and some very surprising young angry looking kids that turn out to be angels.!!! At first my pride would not let me accept the help but I have learned it is good to give and to receive! Have wonderful day let us know how it goes! Trudy On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Patricia Cooley patticoo...@wi.rr.com wrote: KIM – I AM SO GLAD YOUR SURGERY IS FINALLY OVER. WE WERE ALL THINKING AND PRAYING FOR YOU THAT ALL GOES WELL. I HAD THE COMPRESSION WRAPS WHEN I FIRST WAS IN THE HOSPITAL. THEY FELT GREAT. I WISH I HAD THEM AT HOME. TODAY I AM A LITTLE NERVOUS AS I AM GOING BACK TO WORK TODAY FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 7 MONTHS. I WAS ONLY WORKING PART TIME (2 AFTERNOONS A WEEK) AT THE SWITCHBOARD IN OUR LOCAL
[TMIC] RE: tmic-digest Digest V2009 #74
Yes, depending on WHERE his lesion is/was bladder and bowel problems at a part of any spinal cord injury, TM Included! Marieke RN t...@t1 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:56:59 -0800 From: tmic-digest-requ...@eskimo.com Subject: tmic-digest Digest V2009 #74 To: tmic-dig...@eskimo.com --Forwarded Message Attachment-- tmic-digest Digest Volume 2009 : Issue 74 Today's Topics: [TMIC] Bladder control[ Sally Wilkinson sally.wilkinson@ ] --Forwarded Message Attachment-- Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:40:02 + From: sally.wilkin...@genesisdesign.uk.com To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] Bladder control Hi Guys Am I right in thinking that bladder control can be an issue with TM? My TM husband thinks its not, and that his visits to the loo 7-10 times a night and needing to suddenly pee urgently at any time have nothing to do with his TM! Kind regards Sally in the UK Sally Wilkinson Business Development Manager Genesis Design The Barn Ipsden Oxfordshire OX10 6AS +44(0)1491 682277 sally.wilkin...@genesisdesign.uk.com _ How fun is this? IMing with Windows Live Messenger just got better. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/messenger.aspx
Re: [TMIC] Bladder control
Bladder problems are very much a part of TM, but that sounds like symptoms of prostrate problems as well. Definitely should get it checked out. Barbara H. _http://barbarah.wordpress.com/_ (http://barbarah.wordpress.com/) In a message dated 1/29/2009 9:40:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, sally.wilkin...@genesisdesign.uk.com writes: Hi Guys Am I right in thinking that bladder control can be an issue with TM? My TM husband thinks its not, and that his visits to the loo 7-10 times a night and needing to suddenly pee urgently at any time have nothing to do with his TM! Kind regards Sally in the UK Sally Wilkinson Business Development Manager Genesis Design The Barn Ipsden Oxfordshire OX10 6AS +44(0)1491 682277 _sally.wilkin...@genesisdesign.uk.com_ (mailto:sally.wilkin...@genesisdesign.uk.com) **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)
Re: [TMIC] Bladder control
Sally, Yes, bladder control is an issue, go to this website and look under the symptoms section: http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/transversemyelitis/detail_transversemyelitis.htm#133033234 It includes this: From this wide array of symptoms, four classic features of transverse myelitis emerge: (1) weakness of the legs and arms, (2) pain, (3) sensory alteration, and (4) bowel and bladder dysfunction It seems the muscles do not work as normal. I have had TM for over four years and have to do what I used to do with my children---you'd better try to go otherwise sometimes there is an urgency and I almost don't make it. I know with men over a certain age there are prostrate problems too, that cause trips to the bathromm during the night, but TM defintely is known to create bladder problems. Gary in Michigan, USA - Original Message - From: Sally Wilkinson To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 9:40 AM Subject: [TMIC] Bladder control Hi Guys Am I right in thinking that bladder control can be an issue with TM? My TM husband thinks its not, and that his visits to the loo 7-10 times a night and needing to suddenly pee urgently at any time have nothing to do with his TM! Kind regards Sally in the UK Sally Wilkinson Business Development Manager Genesis Design The Barn Ipsden Oxfordshire OX10 6AS +44(0)1491 682277 sally.wilkin...@genesisdesign.uk.com
Re: [TMIC] Re: Alas, the joys of having TM
Butt sneeze?? Oh that is classic! I don't work any more, either, but the family get's the joy around here! I've blamed squeaky boards on the floor, the cat, the dog, you name it! Yep...the wonders of TM!! But!!! It's reality and it isn't going away to we have to laugh so we don't cry!!! Jeanne ---Original Message--- From: kevin weilacher Date: 1/29/2009 7:47:59 AM To: Trudy Ogilvie; jrushton Cc: tmic Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re: Alas, the joys of having TM Jeanne, I'm right there with you on thatbut I'm not working so I haven't had the pleasure of releasing a butt sneeze (that's my humorous name for them) around anyone but my family I always get the evil eye from my wife when we're in bed and it happens..but she knows I can't help it... O...the wonders of TM Kevin From: Trudy Ogilvie mother...@gmail.com To: jrushton jrush...@columbiaenergyllc.com Cc: tmic tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 11:23:14 PM Subject: [TMIC] Re: Alas, the joys of having TM I love it, I absolutely love it Isn't it the absolute worst... not to be too gross but some go on forever!!! Thanks for sharing I would bet there are a few more embarrassing stories out there. again thanks for a good laugh Jeanne! with much love Trudy On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:59 AM, jrushton jrush...@columbiaenergyllc.com wrote: I'm going to tell on myself after reading Trudy and Patti's e-mails about working... I was a full time hard working lead nurse when the TM hit and of course, was off for quite some time due to the paralysis. The clinic insisted that I not worry, that they were going to keep my position (I think because nobody else wanted it!! :)) for whenever and however I was able to return. They even wanted to set up a room where I could rest and nap if I needed to. When I was ready to try, I had to figure out how to get there which was 40 miles so they insisted on taking turns coming to get and take me back home! Finally Jack worked with me helping me get back to driving and I have NO idea how I did it but I did. So the big day came and off I went. I had called them to let them know I was on my way and when I got there, there were pictures and signs all over the place showing everyone with this horrified look on their faces. Such fun. Anyway, I didn't work one-on-one with patients like I did when I was just nursing...I just walked around being bossy!! I liked that and when I got back they had a walker all duded up with streamers, a horn, stickers, and a basket. Well, if they got smart with me, they got a whack from my walker wheel. They were scared to death of me...rght. One day one of the nurses was about to give an allergy shot and she got a phone call and asked me to give the shot...no problem. As I was standing right next to the patient giving him his shot, what happened but I released a great, big, loud fart The patient was one I knew well and he was gracious enough to not even flinch or let on like he heard but there was NO way he couldn't. I finished, went back to my desk and put my hands to my face and cried. The nurse that I was helping came right in and asked what was wrong and began crying right along with me until I started laughing and then we had a hard time stopping. Here I get to be a nurse for the first time in a long, long time and what do I do but let loose with a great big fart! You know that with this TM, some of us lose control of bodily functions and that was one of them. Of course, it took all of about five minutes for everyone to hear about it so it was a day of laughter all day long. I just wasn't able to continue working and had to put my resignation in not long after that and was given a wonderful going away party and guess what was the big highlight??? Anyway, like I said...this is a story telling on myself... Jeanne in Dayton ---Original Message--- From: Trudy Ogilvie Date: 1/27/2009 11:17:18 AM To: Patricia Cooley Cc: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Tuesday am Patti, You will do just fine. Just getting back to work will give you the energy to hang in there. I know exactly how you feel. I had to go back with a walker. It was a bit humiliating but God gives us what we need when we need it. So stay strong, remember you are never alone, God will always send you an angel to help you if you need it. I cannot open many of the heavy doors at school, clinics etc. but it seems that there's always some kind person ready to help me - some much older than I and some very surprising young angry looking kids that turn out to be angels.!!! At first my pride would not let me accept the help but I have learned it is good to give and to receive! Have wonderful day let us know how it goes! Trudy On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Patricia Cooley patticoo...@wi.rr.com wrote: KIM I AM SO GLAD YOUR SURGERY IS FINALLY OVER. WE WERE ALL THINKING AND PRAYING FOR YOU THAT ALL GOES WELL. I HAD
[TMIC] Re: Fwd: nurses do not laugh
HA! That was part of the hiring process when I was interviewing for a nursing position. I would always ask if they liked to laugh and have fun and if not, they were out the door. There are so many things that can make you cry with your patients. A nurse could have been the smartest in her class but if she/he didn't have compassion, a good attitude nor a sense of humor then they would not have 'fit' in with our group. I also wouldn't allow back stabbing, a real no-no. Thanks, Pam!! Jeanne ---Original Message--- From: montzma...@aol.com Date: 1/29/2009 7:35:35 AM To: b...@comcast.net; cherp...@msn.com; doloresdutr...@yahoo.com; elbanks...@aol.com; heyjude48...@aol.com; jkste...@yahoo.com; jmh1...@sbcglobal.net; jrush...@columbiaenergyllc.com; kimr1...@bellsouth net; ladyno...@aol.com; lmlous...@aol.com; mamoo...@cox.net; missdonn...@aol.com; natalieawha...@aol.com; pastel.col...@yahoo.com; pieterheat...@shaw.ca; rcookh...@earthlink.net Subject: Fwd: nurses do not laugh DAH YES THEY DO!!! TIAD PAM From Wall Street to Main Street and everywhere in between, stay up-to-date with the latest news.
Re: [TMIC] Bladder control
I am in diapers 24/7 due to incontinence of both types. I had a really fun test where they filled my bladder with liquid (water or saline - something like that) and monitored the signal to/from the brain that says PEEE. By the way, the method by which they monitored this was with a wire they stuck up between my ohemmm and my ahemmm - too fun. So I reached 900cc and still no signal. They stopped the test so I didn't get a stretched bladder. The doc had wanted to know why I was having problems with sudden geysers of urine and no warning. Point of all this was supposed to tell them how my bladder communicated because having too much urine collect in the bladder may cause it to back up into the kidneys and harm the kidneys to the point of potentially requiring future dialysis or transplant. They set me up with catheters and all the related supplies so I could drain my bladder at regular intervals and prevent back-ups. This hasn't been too successful because I can't feel my hands and can't feel down there - making getting the cath in a very interesting activity. Your husband is obviously getting a signal to urinate, just too frequently. This could be tm or something else, but there are meds that can reduce the number of trips he has to make, if this is indicated. Best wishes. - Original Message - From: Sally Wilkinson To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 9:40 AM Subject: [TMIC] Bladder control Hi Guys Am I right in thinking that bladder control can be an issue with TM? My TM husband thinks its not, and that his visits to the loo 7-10 times a night and needing to suddenly pee urgently at any time have nothing to do with his TM! Kind regards Sally in the UK Sally Wilkinson Business Development Manager Genesis Design The Barn Ipsden Oxfordshire OX10 6AS +44(0)1491 682277 sally.wilkin...@genesisdesign.uk.com
Re: [TMIC] Bladder control
Hi, Sally! It's nice to hear from you! When I first got home from rehab, they had set me up to to cath's and after a day of trying to prop a mirror to see my ohemmm/ahemmm, I said 'enough of this!' and began making myself go to the bathroom every half hour. I, too, have no feeling and so it was awhile before it began working on it's own. I guess my brain realized I was just too stubborn and was NOT going to use those horrible caths. I still have to use protection because occasionally my brain says 'I have to go...NOW' and it's already too late but the protection if just part of my life. I now go about every two hours and most of the time, it works. It's just part of my life. If we go out, I use extra protection and always go any chance I can. As far as the BM, I talked about that in an earlier e-mail and have that worked out pretty well. This issue is a reality and a very much part of TM so it is good to hear how others work it out (oops...pun). Jeanne ---Original Message--- From: gor...@earthlink.net Date: 1/29/2009 11:56:08 AM To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Bladder control I am in diapers 24/7 due to incontinence of both types. I had a really fun test where they filled my bladder with liquid (water or saline - something like that) and monitored the signal to/from the brain that says PEEE. By the way, the method by which they monitored this was with a wire they stuck up between my ohemmm and my ahemmm - too fun. So I reached 900cc and still no signal. They stopped the test so I didn't get a stretched bladder. The doc had wanted to know why I was having problems with sudden geysers of urine and no warning. Point of all this was supposed to tell them how my bladder communicated because having too much urine collect in the bladder may cause it to back up into the kidneys and harm the kidneys to the point of potentially requiring future dialysis or transplant. They set me up with catheters and all the related supplies so I could drain my bladder at regular intervals and prevent back-ups. This hasn't been too successful because I can't feel my hands and can't feel down there - making getting the cath in a very interesting activity. Your husband is obviously getting a signal to urinate, just too frequently. This could be tm or something else, but there are meds that can reduce the number of trips he has to make, if this is indicated. Best wishes. - Original Message - From: Sally Wilkinson To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 9:40 AM Subject: [TMIC] Bladder control Hi Guys Am I right in thinking that bladder control can be an issue with TM? My TM husband thinks its not, and that his visits to the loo 7-10 times a night and needing to suddenly pee urgently at any time have nothing to do with his TM! Kind regards Sally in the UK Sally Wilkinson Business Development Manager Genesis Design The Barn Ipsden Oxfordshire OX10 6AS +44(0)1491 682277 sally.wilkin...@genesisdesign.uk.com
Re: [TMIC] TV program extra
TV program extraRob, I think Marieke (Canada's Support Group leader) will hopefully chime in here. She takes the Botox shots in her legs every 3 or so months. It really helps her. She has done this for about a year or so now. Heather in Calgary - Original Message - From: Robert Pall To: tmic Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:53 AM Subject: [TMIC] TV program extra I saw on the TV show Extra a woman who takes Botox every 4 months into her legs to help relieve the spasticity caused by MS. Has any of you tried Botox and if so with what results. Rob in New Jersey
Re: [TMIC] Bladder control
I sure would, too. It is not worth the worry and if it is the prostate, they have different meds that can help it. Please keep us posted?? Jeanne ---Original Message--- From: montzma...@aol.com Date: 1/29/2009 3:10:29 PM To: jrush...@columbiaenergyllc.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Bladder control SALLY IT SOUNDS TO ME ITS A TM ISSUE. IT COULD BE HIS PROSTRATE ALSO.WOW I CAN FEEL EVERYTHING AND HAD NO BLADDER ARE BOWEL ISSUES IN 17 YEARS WITH TM. I AM VERY LUCKY .A FEW BLADDER INFECTIONS BUT THAT WAS ENOUGH FOR ME! I WOULD HAVE IT CHECKED OUT! JUST MY OPINON1! TIAD PAM!!! From Wall Street to Main Street and everywhere in between, stay up-to-date with the latest news.
RE: [TMIC] Bladder control
That is the same I said in the beginning of TM, because I hatet the catherisasion in the hospital. Untill I learned to do it myself, instead of sitting on the toilet half the night, just before sleeping and sleep the hole night in one peace. In a few days I did not mind to do it, at all. It brought back the rest in my body and legs. He is lucky that his bladder stays closed, because it can also the other way around, as you could read. he just has to put a knob over in his mind. I caterise three times a day, right out of bed in the morning, just before dinner and before going to sleep. Between, just like your husband, little pees. When the bladder is full, it opens not so well as it is been half full, is my expirence. Ones he is on that, there will be much more rest during the day, and he will be more active for pleasure instead of using all his power to go to the toilet the hole day. Wim from Holland. From: sally.wilkin...@genesisdesign.uk.comto: tmic-l...@eskimo.comdate: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:40:02 +Subject: [TMIC] Bladder control Hi Guys Am I right in thinking that bladder control can be an issue with TM? My TM husband thinks its not, and that his visits to the loo 7-10 times a night and needing to suddenly pee urgently at any time have nothing to do with his TM! Kind regards Sally in the UK Sally Wilkinson Business Development Manager Genesis Design The Barn Ipsden Oxfordshire OX10 6AS +44(0)1491 682277 sally.wilkin...@genesisdesign.uk.com _ Nieuw: nu ook chatten op je mobiel! http://www.overaljevriendenbijje.nl/#superdeal
Re: [TMIC] TV program extra
I had it done 2 months ago and after the deep burning pain went away, the spasms were gone for about a week but started back a little stronger but I only get about 2 a day now. I doubt if I'll do it again. Ella **Know Your Numbers: Get tips and tools to help you improve your credit score. (http://www.walletpop.com/credit/credit-reports?ncid=emlcntuswall0002)
