Re: [TMIC] Re: Quadpost/Nitpicking.
I am sorry, both to you Grace and anyone else on this site, including Jim Lubin. Sometimes I don't think things through before I open my big mouth and say something. I hope most of you know that I try to be a good person and a loving person, but not always the most intelligent person around. There is no excuse for my disrespect for others and for all of you who feel that I have been that way to you. I am sorry. I have offended one of the people I respect most on this site and that hurts me to the core of my being, and I deeply regrets the words that have offended you Grace. Please accept my heartfelt apology. I love you and do not want to lose your respect. What can I do to change this situation? I am now writing to the Site and to the people whom I may have offended. I hope that my apology will be accepted by all. I am deeply sorry for being stupid. That's how I feel...stupid and ignorant to have written the email I have. I try to live a good life and to be a good person, but it seems that I am not the person that I believe I have become. I do try with all of my heart to be aware of other people's feelings. There is no excuse for me. I am deeply sorry. Jude In a message dated 8/1/2009 1:30:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, grace...@gmail.com writes: Jude, TM is the result of spinal cord insult , and being a quad can be the result of TM. Our own Jim Lubin is a quad. There are other quads here at this site whom I count among my friends. I am aghast at your statements and extremely offended. I myself do not have TM either, but rather NMO, which results in extensive spinal cord involvement, but I have used this list since onset. So, are you suggesting that I too, should shuffle off to Buffalo? It ain't gonna happen. A compromised spinal cord is a compromised spinal cord---it doesn't matter how you get it, and a TM diagnosis does not make one special. This nitpicking has got to stop. An extremely offended, Grace **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=115bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115)
[TMIC] August Birthdays
Happy Birthday to all of you. May God continue to bless you and hope you have a whole lot more There is none so amazing as God Peggy Wilson **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=115bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115)
Re: [TMIC] OT: Blue MM's
What hope there is in even the smallest, most bizarre things. Kevin, Please accept my apology for the trials we have gone through on my starting of different topics. Love, Jude In a message dated 7/29/2009 9:08:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wolft...@optonline.net writes: This is bizarre: http://www.emaxhealth.com/1024/45/32501/blue-mm-food-dye-may-prevent-spinal- cord-injury.html **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=115bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115)
Re: [TMIC] Re: Quadpost/Nitpicking.
Jude, The problem for me is that you appeared to realize that you were making a mistake before you sent the message, yet you continued to send the message.? Proofreading messages and really thinking before sending them out really helps.? I don't believe that we should scold anyone when they write in.? I have written so many messages that I never got around to sending, but just writing them have made me feel like I was venting.? Sometimes I?sleep on it, or get another opinion if you have something to say that may be out of the ordinary.? Pain takes over our reasoning sometimes or most of the time, so I try to take time to process my ideas and make sure that I really want to express them.? Nobody is perfect, but we need to try to remember why this site was created, and for me it is to offer a place for people to come who need to talk, need information, and feel comfortable doing so.? They'll drop off themselves if they find they are in the wrong place. On another note, I was glad to see your name pop up again since I have been looking to see if you had responded to my email. Hugs, Barbara A -Original Message- From: Grace M. grace...@gmail.com To: heyjude48...@aol.com Cc: tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, Jul 31, 2009 11:21 pm Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re: Quadpost/Nitpicking. Hi Jude,? ? Your apology is most appreciated.? Jude, all of the?little nasties that apply to anyone paralyzed as a result of TM, still apply to others who have suffered spinal cord insult as the result?of another disease process.??Take me for example.? I am not diagnosed with TM, yet I have still experienced several serious bouts of LETM, or Longitudinal Extensive Transverse Myelitis---in other words massive lesions, one of which encompassed almost the entirety of my thoracic cord. It doesn't matter what disease process caused it, as my symptoms are like those of anyone else who has experienced a cord attack---whether from disease or trauma.?? ? Jude, above all, we must be compassionate towards others who are suffering just like we are.??The state of illness and disability?is not an exclusive club.? Pain is pain.? Suffering is suffering.? Believe me, our Good?Lord does not differentiate.? ? Love, ? Gracie
Re: [TMIC] Re: Quadpost/Nitpicking.
You are so right, and I am so deeply hurt and humbled by the words I wrote that may have caused damage to people who have lives and pressures I know nothing about. People are calling my email, nitpicking. I was certainly not meaning to do that. I thought that I was simply making a statement regarding a subject matter that I know nothing about. I was wrong, way wrong. And I deeply regret writing the words that may have caused even only one of you pain in some way. I did not mean to cause you any feelings of hurt or disrespect. Please accept my deepest apology and know that because Jesus died on the cross, I know that I am already forgiven, as are you and everyone else who have sinned or hurt someone either by words or deeds, as I have. The problem is that I seem to be making the same mistakes over and over again and that bothers me, as it should. I seem to continue to make remarks that hurt feelings and I see no way out of making them. I need to think before I write, and as hard as I try, I don't seem to be able to do so. Thank you for being there for me with all of the Prayers and well=wishes you have sent me over the years. I now wish those same Prayers and dreams back to you all. I have come to love many of you as I have come to know you. You will remain with me and in me forever. I owe you years and years of thanks and return caring about you as you have cared for me. May the Holy Spirit, whom ever you are and what ever you believe, come to live in your heart and become your soul mate forevermore. Jude In a message dated 8/1/2009 2:21:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, grace...@gmail.com writes: Hi Jude, Your apology is most appreciated. Jude, all of the little nasties that apply to anyone paralyzed as a result of TM, still apply to others who have suffered spinal cord insult as the result of another disease process. Take me for example. I am not diagnosed with TM, yet I have still experienced several serious bouts of LETM, or Longitudinal Extensive Transverse Myelitis---in other words massive lesions, one of which encompassed almost the entirety of my thoracic cord. It doesn't matter what disease process caused it, as my symptoms are like those of anyone else who has experienced a cord attack---whether from disease or trauma. Jude, above all, we must be compassionate towards others who are suffering just like we are. The state of illness and disability is not an exclusive club. Pain is pain. Suffering is suffering. Believe me, our Good Lord does not differentiate. Love, Gracie **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=115bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115)
Re: [TMIC] Regrets from Jude
Jude, (I will find elsewhere to go, but before I do, there are people I must take the time to thank.) What are you thinking? Where are you going? We need you right here!!! We love you! Catherine From: heyjude48...@aol.com heyjude48...@aol.com To: TMIC-LIST@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2009 2:29:50 AM Subject: [TMIC] Regrets from Jude AOL Email To all on the TM List, Whether you have been on this list for a short time or a very long time, I address my comments to you and I promise not to take up too much of your time. Ever since I joined this List, I have had a tendency to make remarks and write email that has resulted in hurting someone's feelings. I have deeply offended some of the persons whom I most respect in the World, and have never meant to do so. I don't know what is wrong with me. I promise you that I will get help with this continuing issue. I have a friend whom is a psychologist and she says that she will help me with whatever I need. As I have asked you before...please forgive my heartfelt apology. I feel like I have been such an ass to make the comments that I have in some of my emails. I will find elsewhere to go, but before I do, there are people I must take the time to thank. Elle, you know that you are the first person I ever exchanged email with shortly after I became changed by Transverse Myelitis. I must thank you for the unwaivering friendship, the ongoing love, phone calls, email cards and cards when I was in the hospital. Without you and the Prayers you offered up in my name, I never would have lived through that long and mighty illness. I love you, Jude
Re: [TMIC] Re: [QUAD-L] 35 year anniversary
Jude, looking back at the posts preceding your comments, none of them were on the TMIC. The address listed on them is _quad-l...@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-l...@eskimo.com) , not the TMIC address. Did you inadvertently subscribe to the Quad list and get it confused with the TMIC? And don't you even think about going anywhere. You are a vital part of the TMIC. You made a mistake, apologized, and asked forgiveness -- now just receive it, let's put all this behind us, and move on. There will likely be more comments as too often people will read the first note in a thread and respond before seeing that the issue has been resolved, but if they keep reading they'll see that it has. Barbara H. _http://barbarah.wordpress.com_ (http://barbarah.wordpress.com) In a message dated 8/1/2009 1:06:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, heyjude48...@aol.com writes: Will you people whom do not have TM along with being quads please create a site of your own and use it. You are breaking into a site for people who have a disease called Transverse Myelitis, and unless you have it, I feel you ought not be here because you will never understand the things we talk about. Some of the topics you will be able to relate to, simply because you are paralyzed or have a similar disability, but you ought to create a site for Quads all of your own. I am sorry for saying these things. I wish I didn't feel the way I do. Those of you with Transverse Myelitis, stay...the rest of you, please begin your own web site and do not clutter up the TM Site. It very well may confuse a person with new TM who needs a place to go to find solace, to vent their anger, to find the exact same people who have the same problems as they do. This a TRANSVERSE MYELITIS site...not simply for paraplegics, quadriplegics, or people with diseases similar to ours. Unless you have Transverse Myelitis, you do not belong here. I am sorry that I feel this way. I don't even know why I feel so strongly about this. It seems that I am the only person on our site who feels this way since no once has written in to back me up. Regardless, I feel that you ought to have your own site and that means that it is time for you to create your own site, and move on.; Please respect our site. Thank you quads, I love you, Jude...Wait a minute. I just went back to see where you had addressed your email and it is addressed to a site that is not this one. I wonder why all of your mail is being sent to out site.? Please accept my apology for all of the things I have said. I am so sorry. Why didn't one of you come on board to correct me? With my deepest regrets, Jude, (big mouth) In a message dated 7/28/2009 3:53:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lilroamin...@verizon.net writes: Hey Dana quadriplegics on 35 yrs. I'm only at 10yrs July 31. I, too, have been pretty healthy.( I'm a c6-7 quad. I can't stay still for long plus I do get in a manual as often as possible mainly for excercise and to keep my weight down. I went from 205 to 125 now holding at 130. I've broken my right leg 3 times ( shoot almost can't keep count) LOL Mainly from trying things, but if you don't try, how will you know if you can, right.) For those of you who don't know me. By the way I'm about to be a grandma, my daughter is 7 mos and its a girl (woohoo) I'm so excited. Oh Dana by the way What I'm worried the most about the medicare/medicaid is they (government)want to stop in-home care. One thing I have heard is The Governor of Texas is really looking into the healthcare, like he did the stimulus thing. He didn't take all the money only enough to help the unemployment and welfare n few other things. What I don't understand with the Healthcare is with its hard enough with getting things with medicare/ medicaid I hope and pray they don't screw it up worse. Regina Life's greatest accomplishments are those that at first seem impossible and No one can know what they can do until they try. --- On Mon, 7/27/09, dav...@aol.com dav...@aol.com wrote: From: dav...@aol.com dav...@aol.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 35 year anniversary To: quad-l...@eskimo.com Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 10:25 AM congrats on being a tuff ol' goat DAANO. I've had only one close call with a uti - I've been unusually healthy since 5-24-1967. yupper 42 years. (I had to think for a minute of the exact date - that's gotta tell you something ) looks like this sci stuff isn't nearly as deadly as one might think. azdave Young people talk of the future because they have no past, while old people talk of the past because they have no future. _Dave Patty's Grandkids_ (http://ocgrands.com/) In a message dated 7/27/2009 7:28:02 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, daa...@aol.com writes: I can't believe I made it to my 35 th year anniversary. My parents were told after each
Re: [TMIC] Re: [QUAD-L] 35 year anniversary
Heyjude - I've only been a TM for 3 yrs and have been reading the emails for a couple of weeks deciding whether or not I want to join in.?? I've been quite surprised by some of the things I've read and applaud you even though you were slightly off point.? Maybe someone can tell me what I am missing because so far this site seems like a fraternity with way too many personal messages clogging up the email cyber waves.? Curious?? lz -Original Message- From: heyjude48...@aol.com To: lilroamin...@verizon.net; TMIC-List@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Aug 1, 2009 1:05 am Subject: [TMIC] Re: [QUAD-L] 35 year anniversary Will you people whom do not have TM along with being? quads? please create a site of your own and use it.? You are breaking into a site for people who have a disease called Transverse Myelitis, and unless you have it, I feel you ought not be here because you will never understand the things we talk about.? Some of the topics you will be able to relate to, simply because you are paralyzed or have a similar disability, but you ought to create a site for Quads all of your own. ? I am sorry for saying these things.? I wish I didn't feel the way I do.? Those of you with Transverse Myelitis, stay...the rest of you, please begin your own web site and do not clutter up the TM Site.? It very well may confuse a person with new TM who needs a place to go to find solace, to vent their anger, to find the exact same people who have the same problems as they do.? ? This a TRANSVERSE MYELITIS site...not simply for paraplegics, quadriplegics, or people with diseases similar to ours.? Unless you have Transverse Myelitis, you do not belong here. ? I am sorry that I feel this way.? I don't even know why I feel so strongly about this.? It seems that I am the only person on our site who feels this way since no once has written in to back me up. ? Regardless, I feel that you ought to have your own site and that means that it is time for you to create your own site, and move on.;? Please respect our site. ? Thank you quads, I love you, Jude...Wait a minute.? I just went back to see where you had addressed your email and it is addressed to a site that is not this one.? I wonder why all of your mail is being sent to out site.?? ? Please accept my apology for all of the things I have said.? I am so sorry.? Why didn't one of you come on board to correct me? ? With my deepest regrets, Jude, (big mouth) In a message dated 7/28/2009 3:53:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lilroamin...@verizon.net writes: Hey Dana quadriplegics on 35 yrs. I'm only at 10yrs July 31. I, too, have been pretty healthy.( I'm a c6-7 quad.?I can't stay still for long plus I do get in a manual as often as possible mainly for excercise and to keep my weight down. I went from 205 to 125 now holding at 130. I've broken my right leg 3 times ( shoot almost can't keep count) LOL Mainly from trying things, but if you don't try, how will you know if you can, right.) For those of you who don't know me. By the way I'm about to be a grandma, my daughter is 7 mos and its a girl (woohoo) I'm so excited. ? Oh Dana by the way What I'm worried the most about the?medicare/medicaid?is they (government)want to stop in-home care. One thing I have heard is The Governor of Texas is really looking into the healthcare, like he did the stimulus thing. He didn't take all the money only enough to help the unemployment and welfare n few other things. What I don't understand with the Healthcare is with its hard enough with getting things with medicare/ medicaid?I hope and pray they don't screw it up worse. ? Regina Life's greatest accomplishments are those that at first seem impossible and No one can know what they can do until they try. --- On Mon, 7/27/09, dav...@aol.com dav...@aol.com wrote: From: dav...@aol.com dav...@aol.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 35 year anniversary To: quad-l...@eskimo.com Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 10:25 AM congrats
Re: [TMIC] Regrets from Jude
How many emails does it take to say i'm sorry.? This is why i am frustrated with all of the personal messages being transmitted on this site.? -Original Message- From: heyjude48...@aol.com To: TMIC-LIST@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Aug 1, 2009 2:29 am Subject: [TMIC] Regrets from Jude To all on the TM List, ? Whether you have been on this list for a short time or a very long time, I address my comments to you and I promise not to take up too much of your time. ? Ever since I joined this List, I have had a tendency to make remarks and write email that has resulted in hurting someone's feelings.? I have deeply offended some of the persons whom I most respect in the World, and have never meant to do so. ? I don't know what is wrong with me.? I promise you that I will get help with this continuing issue.? I have a friend whom is a psychologist and she says that she will help me with whatever I need. ? As I have asked you before...please forgive my heartfelt apology.? I feel like I have been such an ass to make the comments that I have in some of my emails. ? I will find elsewhere to go, but before I do, there are people I must take the time to thank. ? Elle, you know that you are the first person I ever exchanged email with shortly after I became changed by Transverse Myelitis.? I must thank you for the unwaivering? friendship, the ongoing love, phone calls, email cards and cards when I was in the hospital.? Without you and the Prayers you offered up in my name, I never would have lived through that long and mighty illness. ? I love you, Jude
RE: [TMIC] August Birthdays
I WISH ALL THE AUGUST KIDS A VERY, VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY. PATTI - WISCONSIN From: jharpe...@aol.com [mailto:jharpe...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 11:58 PM To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] August Birthdays Happy Birthday to the August birthday kids -- August has one of the longest lists! Please send any additions or corrections to mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com tmic-list@eskimo.com 8/1 Peachi ( mailto:pkeene2...@aol.com pkeene2...@aol.com) 8/1 Cindy McLeroy ( mailto:cindymcle...@socal.rr.com cindymcle...@socal.rr.com) 8-1 Stacy Firth ( mailto:safi...@dow.com safi...@dow.com ) 8-3 Larry Throne ( mailto:lbthr...@hotmail.com lbthr...@hotmail.com ) 8-10 Sean Indiveri ( mailto:sindiv...@hotmail.com sindiv...@hotmail.com) 8-11 Raylene Gökeri ( mailto:mrs_gok...@yahoo.com mrs_gok...@yahoo.com ) 8-11 Michelle Maricic ( mailto:mmari...@aol.com mmari...@aol.com) 8-11 Dalida S. Ortiz de Garcia ( mailto:py...@yahoo.com py...@yahoo.com) 8-16 mailto:phyllisj...@webtv.net phyllisj...@webtv.net 08/17 Sandra (Harth) Brassil ( mailto:sbras...@aol.com sbras...@aol.com) 8-17 Kim ( mailto:jnks...@huntel.net jnks...@huntel.net) 08/18 Corinne Cookie Knox ( mailto:horsecookies...@wmconnect.com horsecookies...@wmconnect.com) 8-19 Saroj ( mailto:sarojkumar...@gmail.com sarojkumar...@gmail.com) 8-21 Barbara H. ( mailto:jharpe...@aol.com jharpe...@aol.com) 8/22 - Debi ( mailto:debdo...@aol.com debdo...@aol.com) 8-23 Cole ( mailto:neilandwe...@rogers.com neilandwe...@rogers.com) 8-29 Lisa Baker (Judy's daughter) ( mailto:judybak...@juno.com judybak...@juno.com 8-29 Kathleen ( mailto:kkar...@dacor.net kkar...@dacor.net ) 8/30 Lynn Pouliot ( mailto:lpoul...@cox.net lpoul...@cox.net) 8-31 Robin in Ontario(Brampton)( mailto:rjohnson1...@rogers.com rjohnson1...@rogers.com ) _
RE: [TMIC] Regrets from Jude
JUDE SWEETIE: YOU DON'T HAVE TO APOLOGIZE TO ME. WE ALL SAY AND WRITE THINGS WE REGRET. I KNOW SINCE TM ARRIVED HERE, THERE ARE TIMES WHEN I AM A COMPLETE B- - -H AND ALWAYS TO THE ONES I LOVE THE MOST. I KNOW DEPRESSION AND SELF PITY ARE PROBABLY THE CAUSE, AT LEAST FOR ME. HOWEVER, SINCE I HAVE FOUND THIS SITE, I HAVE MORE GOOD DAYS THAN BAD BECAUSE HERE I KNOW I HAVE FRIENDS THAT UNDERSTAND AND FORGIVE. WE ALL LOVE YOU AND DON'T WANT YOU TO GO ANYWHERE ELSE BUT HERE. I ALWAYS LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ON A POST AND WHEN I DON'T SEE YOU FOR A WHILE I HOPE YOU ARE DOING GOOD. BLESS YOU JUDE AND PLEASE POST WHENEVER YOU FEEL UP TO IT. PATTI - WISCONSIN From: heyjude48...@aol.com [mailto:heyjude48...@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 1:30 AM To: TMIC-LIST@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] Regrets from Jude To all on the TM List, Whether you have been on this list for a short time or a very long time, I address my comments to you and I promise not to take up too much of your time. Ever since I joined this List, I have had a tendency to make remarks and write email that has resulted in hurting someone's feelings. I have deeply offended some of the persons whom I most respect in the World, and have never meant to do so. I don't know what is wrong with me. I promise you that I will get help with this continuing issue. I have a friend whom is a psychologist and she says that she will help me with whatever I need. As I have asked you before...please forgive my heartfelt apology. I feel like I have been such an ass to make the comments that I have in some of my emails. I will find elsewhere to go, but before I do, there are people I must take the time to thank. Elle, you know that you are the first person I ever exchanged email with shortly after I became changed by Transverse Myelitis. I must thank you for the unwaivering friendship, the ongoing love, phone calls, email cards and cards when I was in the hospital. Without you and the Prayers you offered up in my name, I never would have lived through that long and mighty illness. I love you, Jude _
Re: [TMIC] August Birthdays
May everyone have a joyous birthday...Ella **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=115bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115)
