Re: [TMIC] Cold Upstate

2011-10-04 Thread Dalton Garis
We're losing, folks;

The time is well nigh past when we can get out of our depression ourselves.
I fear we will be a shrunken nation in future, with good roads and
neighborhoods for the rich and the rest of us forgotten except insofar as we
can nourish the plans of the wealthy.

I see no hope for it, unless someone like FDR appears, one who has the right
instincts and a true feeling for the people‹all of them, and who also knows
how to wield the levers of power.

Otherwise, we await a general awakening in this nation of morality over
ideology, and empathy over envy, and service over greed.  But as I remember
the plagues visited upon Pharaoh and his people, did it change his heart?
And they blindly followed him over the abyss.

Then, and only then, was a better society built.

Dalton

From:  john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com
Reply-To:  john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com
Date:  Mon, 3 Oct 2011 07:51:48 -0700 (PDT)
To:  Akua a...@artfarm.com, tmic-list@eskimo.com tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject:  Re: [TMIC] Cold Upstate
Resent-From:  tmic-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date:  Mon, 3 Oct 2011 07:53:54 -0700

 sad thought Akua,,cut funding to infrastructure and system will come to a
 screaming halt!
 
 
 From: Akua a...@artfarm.com
 To: tmic-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Monday, October 3, 2011 12:31 AM
 Subject: [TMIC] Cold Upstate
 
 it's 40 degrees, all the apples are off the tree.
 I just did my tax prep which i send to my
 tax lady in nyc.
 It is still a shock to see how much
 I spend on infrastructure: catheters, wipes,powder, gloves, surgilube, etc.
 stuff that doesn'tfix or ease pain but is required for the day to day
 sigh.
 
 Akua
 
  Hi,
 I've had tm since 8/13/95 and have tight banding all the time. It does
 get even tighter during stressful times,and I almost can't breathe. It's been
 awful the past few months. It's the worst part of tm for me,along with the
 nerve pain.
Cheryl in gloomy Easthampton,MA.
 
 -- 
 
 




Re: [TMIC] I haven't been here for a long time

2011-10-04 Thread pat cooley
John I am glad you are getting some relief from your pain.  I also stopped
Neuronton (gabapentin) as it was doing absolutely nothing for me except
cause me to gain some unwanted and unneeded pounds.

I can't see putting stuff in your body if it doesn't help.

I will hope you continue to feel better.

Patti - Wisconsin

On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 6:37 PM, john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I have been through several days that were not as bad as normal. i am glad
 for the relief. learned not to hold my breath but to take one moment at a
 time.

 i stopped taking one of my meds. it stopped being useful. Neuronton.

 seamed i was hurting in areas that it use to help with so i started down
 dosing untill i just quit. i dont feel any worse for the lack of it so why
 bother.

 I am almost off of the backlofin also. feel the same as i did taking max +
 dosage.

 I dont jerk as much this year as i did last year.

 who knows.

 still taking the liver killers though.



 --
 *From:* Jeron Rampersad rumc...@hotmail.com
 *To:* em...@telephonelady.com; pjv1...@chartermi.net; tmic-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, October 2, 2011 9:03 AM
 *Subject:* RE: [TMIC] I haven't been here for a long time

  Indeed! where is Dalton? I haven't heard from him in a long while. John
 has also disappeared. Hope these guys are ok. I wonder why it's always so
 quiet here. Please be well my friends!
 Jeron

 --
 From: em...@telephonelady.com
 To: pjv1...@chartermi.net; tmic-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: RE: [TMIC] I haven't been here for a long time
 Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 21:43:19 -0400

  I am here…..and I am also on Facebook but I like this method MUCH
 better.  I do agree, it has been very quiet here lately.

 I have been wondering how Dalton has been doing since he is back in the
 USA.  Has anyone heard?

 And what about our dear friend and crazy West VA buddy John….where has he
 been lately?

 Maybe this is a good thing….everyone is without pain, spasms, banding,
 etc…..so no one is talking….LOL

 OH…..I did forget one thing….my husband is on a vitamin B complex with
 folic acid and it has helped with banding and spasms…it is a prescription
 only and it is called Metanx.  Has anyone else ever heard of this?  It
 doesn’t work in all spinal cord injury patients but so far it is working
 with my husband…praise the Lord!!!

 Emily


  --
  *From:* pjv1...@chartermi.net [mailto:pjv1...@chartermi.net]
 *Sent:* Saturday, October 01, 2011 9:35 PM
 *To:* tmic
 *Subject:* [TMIC] I haven't been here for a long time

 Hi
 I got booted off tmic several months ago by the computer phantom that
 does that every once in a while and decided not to sign back up for various
 reasons.  I signed up today because I visited with David and Judy Hoops ,
 aka Hey Jude, today and we talked about how long it had been since we had
 been on the TMIC.  I visited the archives to see what the current subjects
 are and who was participating and the subject that caught my attention was
 RE: facebook.  How fitting.  That was exactly what Dave and Judy and I
 talked about.  They told me about TM on FaceBook and how confused they get
 by it and wondered if it had totaly replaced TMIC.  I told Dave I would chek
 into it and let him know what I found out.

 It was good to see so many people post on that subject.  There were names
 that I hadn't seen on TMIC for a long time.  It sounds like a lot of people
 were lurking I the background.  I remember the last post I read. Someone
 asked how Saronj from India was and she answered.

 Jude has been in hospital twice in the last three weeks.  She sure is a
 trooper!  She's in ICU now awaiting test results.

 I think I'll stay on TMIC for a while.

 Patti - Michigan
 TM for 8 years  and wouldn't have known what to do without TMIC and the TM
 Forum.  I'm glad there's plenty of info for new TMers, however, my brain
 couldn't have handled it all back then.





Re: [TMIC] I haven't been here for a long time

2011-10-04 Thread Dalton Garis
Pregabelin‹Lyrica;

That what's works for me.  And I did put on the pounds‹about 20 of them.
But I sleep better and can forget about the pain for hours on end.  It is
harder getting up from sitting, and walking is a bit harder; but with the
pain down, I can actually think and do things with my mind, impossible
before since it took an act of great will to push the pain down enough to do
anything useful.

Dalton

From:  Patricia Cooley patticoole...@gmail.com
Date:  Tue, 4 Oct 2011 08:54:37 -0500
To:  john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com
Cc:  Jeron Rampersad rumc...@hotmail.com, Emily em...@telephonelady.com,
pjv1...@chartermi.net pjv1...@chartermi.net, tmic-list@eskimo.com
tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject:  Re: [TMIC] I haven't been here for a long time
Resent-From:  tmic-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date:  Tue, 4 Oct 2011 06:56:45 -0700

 John I am glad you are getting some relief from your pain.  I also stopped
 Neuronton (gabapentin) as it was doing absolutely nothing for me except cause
 me to gain some unwanted and unneeded pounds.
  
 I can't see putting stuff in your body if it doesn't help.
  
 I will hope you continue to feel better.
  
 Patti - Wisconsin
 
 On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 6:37 PM, john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I have been through several days that were not as bad as normal. i am glad
 for the relief. learned not to hold my breath but to take one moment at a
 time.
 
 i stopped taking one of my meds. it stopped being useful. Neuronton.
 
 seamed i was hurting in areas that it use to help with so i started down
 dosing untill i just quit. i dont feel any worse for the lack of it so why
 bother.
 
 I am almost off of the backlofin also. feel the same as i did taking max +
 dosage.
 
 I dont jerk as much this year as i did last year.
 
 who knows.
 
 still taking the liver killers though.
 
 
 
 
 From: Jeron Rampersad rumc...@hotmail.com
 To: em...@telephonelady.com; pjv1...@chartermi.net; tmic-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 9:03 AM
 Subject: RE: [TMIC] I haven't been here for a long time
 
 Indeed! where is Dalton? I haven't heard from him in a long while. John has
 also disappeared. Hope these guys are ok. I wonder why it's always so quiet
 here. Please be well my friends!
 Jeron
 
 
 From: em...@telephonelady.com
 To: pjv1...@chartermi.net; tmic-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: RE: [TMIC] I haven't been here for a long time
 Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 21:43:19 -0400
 
   
 I am hereŠ..and I am also on Facebook but I like this method MUCH better.  I
 do agree, it has been very quiet here lately.
  
 I have been wondering how Dalton has been doing since he is back in the USA.
 Has anyone heard?
  
 And what about our dear friend and crazy West VA buddy JohnŠ.where has he
 been lately?  
  
 Maybe this is a good thingŠ.everyone is without pain, spasms, banding,
 etcŠ..so no one is talkingŠ.LOL
  
 OHŠ..I did forget one thingŠ.my husband is on a vitamin B complex with folic
 acid and it has helped with banding and spasmsŠit is a prescription only and
 it is called Metanx.  Has anyone else ever heard of this?  It doesn¹t work in
 all spinal cord injury patients but so far it is working with my
 husbandŠpraise the Lord!!!
  
 Emily
  
  
 
 From:pjv1...@chartermi.net [mailto:pjv1...@chartermi.net]
 Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 9:35 PM
 To: tmic
 Subject: [TMIC] I haven't been here for a long time
  
 Hi 
 I got booted off tmic several months ago by the computer phantom that does
 that every once in a while and decided not to sign back up for various
 reasons.  I signed up today because I visited with David and Judy Hoops , aka
 Hey Jude, today and we talked about how long it had been since we had been on
 the TMIC.  I visited the archives to see what the current subjects are and
 who was participating and the subject that caught my attention was RE:
 facebook.  How fitting.  That was exactly what Dave and Judy and I talked
 about.  They told me about TM on FaceBook and how confused they get by it and
 wondered if it had totaly replaced TMIC.  I told Dave I would chek into it
 and let him know what I found out.
  
 It was good to see so many people post on that subject.  There were names
 that I hadn't seen on TMIC for a long time.  It sounds like a lot of people
 were lurking I the background.  I remember the last post I read. Someone
 asked how Saronj from India was and she answered.
  
 Jude has been in hospital twice in the last three weeks.  She sure is a
 trooper!  She's in ICU now awaiting test results.
  
 I think I'll stay on TMIC for a while.
  
 Patti - Michigan
 TM for 8 years  and wouldn't have known what to do without TMIC and the TM
 Forum.  I'm glad there's plenty of info for new TMers, however, my brain
 couldn't have handled it all back then.

  
 
 
 




Re: [TMIC] Cold Upstate

2011-10-04 Thread john snodgrass
I have to vote for a Governor today. Special election.

seams like they all promise the stars but we never even make it to the moon.

the country is broke. I am broke. my body is Broke.

Dalton Garis for president!

a vote for Dalton is one less for the other guy!

woo hoo! I'm IN!



From: Dalton Garis malugss...@gmail.com
To: john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com; Akua a...@artfarm.com; 
tmic-list@eskimo.com tmic-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2011 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Cold Upstate


We're losing, folks;

The time is well nigh past when we can get out of our depression ourselves.  I 
fear we will be a shrunken nation in future, with good roads and neighborhoods 
for the rich and the rest of us forgotten except insofar as we can nourish the 
plans of the wealthy.

I see no hope for it, unless someone like FDR appears, one who has the right 
instincts and a true feeling for the people—all of them, and who also knows how 
to wield the levers of power.

Otherwise, we await a general awakening in this nation of morality over 
ideology, and empathy over envy, and service over greed.  But as I remember the 
plagues visited upon Pharaoh and his people, did it change his heart?  And they 
blindly followed him over the abyss. 

Then, and only then, was a better society built.

Dalton
From:  john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com
Reply-To:  john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com
Date:  Mon, 3 Oct 2011 07:51:48 -0700 (PDT)
To:  Akua a...@artfarm.com, tmic-list@eskimo.com tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject:  Re: [TMIC] Cold Upstate
Resent-From:  tmic-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date:  Mon, 3 Oct 2011 07:53:54 -0700


sad thought Akua,,cut funding to infrastructure and system will come to a 
screaming halt!




From: Akua a...@artfarm.com
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2011 12:31 AM
Subject: [TMIC] Cold Upstate

it's 40 degrees, all the apples are off the tree.
I just did my tax prep which i send to my
tax lady in nyc.
It is still a shock to see how much
I spend on infrastructure: catheters, wipes,powder, gloves, surgilube, etc.
stuff that doesn'tfix or ease pain but is required for the day to day
sigh.

Akua

 Hi,
    I've had tm since 8/13/95 and have tight banding all the time. It does 
get even tighter during stressful times,and I almost can't breathe. It's been 
awful the past few months. It's the worst part of tm for me,along with the 
nerve pain.
   Cheryl in gloomy Easthampton,MA.

-- 


 

Re: [TMIC] I haven't been here for a long time

2011-10-04 Thread john snodgrass
oh well. a good day is a relief but not this day.

where i use to work when things went askew one would reply i am having another 
first day

i am having another first day.

beyond pushing it out of my mind to just not losing my mind.

it's like computers memory running at full capacity dont say anything ~~




From: Dalton Garis malugss...@gmail.com
To: pat cooley patticoole...@gmail.com; john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com
Cc: Jeron Rampersad rumc...@hotmail.com; Emily em...@telephonelady.com; 
pjv1...@chartermi.net pjv1...@chartermi.net; tmic-list@eskimo.com 
tmic-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2011 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] I haven't been here for a long time


Pregabelin—Lyrica;

That what's works for me.  And I did put on the pounds—about 20 of them.  But I 
sleep better and can forget about the pain for hours on end.  It is harder 
getting up from sitting, and walking is a bit harder; but with the pain down, I 
can actually think and do things with my mind, impossible before since it took 
an act of great will to push the pain down enough to do anything useful.

Dalton
From:  Patricia Cooley patticoole...@gmail.com
Date:  Tue, 4 Oct 2011 08:54:37 -0500
To:  john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com
Cc:  Jeron Rampersad rumc...@hotmail.com, Emily em...@telephonelady.com, 
pjv1...@chartermi.net pjv1...@chartermi.net, tmic-list@eskimo.com 
tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject:  Re: [TMIC] I haven't been here for a long time
Resent-From:  tmic-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date:  Tue, 4 Oct 2011 06:56:45 -0700


John I am glad you are getting some relief from your pain.  I also stopped 
Neuronton (gabapentin) as it was doing absolutely nothing for me except cause 
me to gain some unwanted and unneeded pounds.
 
I can't see putting stuff in your body if it doesn't help.
 
I will hope you continue to feel better.
 
Patti - Wisconsin


On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 6:37 PM, john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com wrote:

I have been through several days that were not as bad as normal. i am glad for 
the relief. learned not to hold my breath but to take one moment at a time.


i stopped taking one of my meds. it stopped being useful. Neuronton.


seamed i was hurting in areas that it use to help with so i started down 
dosing untill i just quit. i dont feel any worse for the lack of it so why 
bother.


I am almost off of the backlofin also. feel the same as i did taking max + 
dosage.


I dont jerk as much this year as i did last year.


who knows.


still taking the liver killers though.








From: Jeron Rampersad rumc...@hotmail.com
To: em...@telephonelady.com; pjv1...@chartermi.net; tmic-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 9:03 AM
Subject: RE: [TMIC] I haven't been here for a long time


Indeed! where is Dalton? I haven't heard from him in a long while. John has 
also disappeared. Hope these guys are ok. I wonder why it's always so quiet 
here. Please be well my friends!
Jeron




From: em...@telephonelady.com
To: pjv1...@chartermi.net; tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [TMIC] I haven't been here for a long time
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 21:43:19 -0400


I am here…..and
I am also on Facebook but I like this method MUCH better.  I do agree, it has
been very quiet here lately.  
 
I have been
wondering how Dalton has been doing since he is
back in the USA. 
Has anyone heard?
 
And what about
our dear friend and crazy West VA buddy John….where has he been
lately?  
 
Maybe this is
a good thing….everyone is without pain, spasms, banding, etc…..so no one is
talking….LOL
 
OH…..I did
forget one thing….my husband is on a vitamin B complex with folic acid and it
has helped with banding and spasms…it is a prescription only and it is called
Metanx.  Has anyone else ever heard of this?  It doesn’t work in all spinal
cord injury patients but so far it is working with my husband…praise the
Lord!!!
 
Emily
 
 



From:pjv1...@chartermi.net [mailto:pjv1...@chartermi.net] 
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011
9:35 PM
To: tmic
Subject: [TMIC] I haven't been
here for a long time
 
Hi 
I got
booted off tmic several months ago by the computer phantom that
does that every once in a while and decided not to sign back up for 
variousreasons.  I signed up today because I visited with David and Judy Hoops ,
aka Hey Jude, today and we talked about how long it had been since we had been
on the TMIC.  I visited the archives to see what the current subjects are
and who was participating and the subject that caught my attention was RE:
facebook.  How fitting.  That was exactly what Dave and Judy and I
talked about.  They told me about TM on FaceBook and how confused they get
by it and wondered if it had totaly replaced TMIC.  I told Dave I would
chek into it and let him know what I found out.
 
It was
good to see so many people post on that subject.  There were names that I
hadn't seen on TMIC for a long time.  It sounds like 

[TMIC] Facebook

2011-10-04 Thread Robert Pall

I have not been around here for awhile. I stopped working in Februuary and 
neveer changed my email address until yesterday. I have been on Facebook which 
has a TM group and there are a lot of people on it from this group. I was 
confused but now I am not and I am glad to be back where I started.
 By the way to celebrate my 764th birthday and my 14th annivarsary with TMJ 
I went skydiving at the Jersey Shoreit was incredible and the most exciting 
thing I ever did! I continue to not allow TM to disrupt my life!

Rob in New Jersey


[TMIC] spouting off

2011-10-04 Thread rn11...@yahoo.com
Hi,
   I hope no one is offended by the comments I am about to make.
   Why isn't there housing for handicapped people who are not low income?
   All the handicapped housing is federally subsidized and there are limits to 
what you can have for an income.My income is too high for one person and leaves 
me unable to live in any of these types of housing.
   Why can't there be a set number of apartments that I could pay the full rent 
myself to live there?
    Once my house is ready to sell,I don't know where I'll find an apartment to 
move to with minimal stairs.
   I know many of you are having a hard time due to lack of money and help,and 
that I am very lucky,but it is so frustrating.
   Cheryl

Re: [TMIC] spouting off

2011-10-04 Thread rn11...@yahoo.com
Candy,

    I can do laundry since I have a laundry room right off my kitchen.
   My ex husband mows my lawn and plows the snow.
   My oldest daughter and her husband are doing my house over so I can sell 
it;they come here on Sat. or Sun. ,and do some cleaning too..

   I just feel that I shouldn't be punished for having a good income from my 
pension and SS. Housing should be available for me.
  Cheryl




From: CANDISKALLEY cakal...@embarqmail.com
To: rn11...@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2011 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] spouting off


Cheryl,
 
I'm not offended at all!!  I believe that the lmits are WAY TOO LOW!  Also, 
when filing taxes - we are not allowed a special deduction!!  Blind people are 
BUT we have as many, if not more, expenses as a disabled person!
 
I know that financially, I am better off than most disabled BUT I still have a 
difficult time making ends meet!  I need help in doing heavy housekeeping - 
laundry, cleaning, yard, maintenance - stuff that 5 years ago wasn't a problem 
but now any one of the chores is a MAJOR  undertaking - just 1 load of laundry 
can take me 3 days!  Help doesn't come cheap!!
 
Once again the GREED of the 1% of population is down trotting the other 99%!!  
SUPPORT THE WALL STREET PROTESTORS!!


Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! 
Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably . 
And never regret anything that made you smile.


Prayers and thoughts for you and yours,

Candy K.


 From: rn11...@yahoo.com
To: tmic tmic-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2011 11:31:33 AM
Subject: [TMIC] spouting off


Hi,
   I hope no one is offended by the comments I am about to make.
   Why isn't there housing for handicapped people who are not low income?
   All the handicapped housing is federally subsidized and there are limits to 
what you can have for an income.My income is too high for one person and leaves 
me unable to live in any of these types of housing.
   Why can't there be a set number of apartments that I could pay the full rent 
myself to live there?
    Once my house is ready to sell,I don't know where I'll find an apartment to 
move to with minimal stairs.
   I know many of you are having a hard time due to lack of money and help,and 
that I am very lucky,but it is so frustrating.
   Cheryl

RE: [TMIC] Facebook

2011-10-04 Thread pjv1234


Congratulations on your retirement.  I know I've said it before, but I 
can't imagine working while having TM.  I think skydiving is the 
ultimate gutsy thing to try.  I'm not that gutsy, however, I went white 
water rafteing this spring and found it to be exilerating.


Patti

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Robert Pall wrote:

 I have not been around here for awhile. I stopped working in Februuary 
and neveer changed my email address until yesterday. I have been on 
Facebook which has a TM group and there are a lot of people on it from 
this group. I was confused but now I am not and I am glad to be back 
where I started.
 By the way to celebrate my 764th birthday and my 14th annivarsary 
with TMJ I went skydiving at the Jersey Shoreit was incredible and 
the most exciting thing I ever did! I continue to not allow TM to 
disrupt my life!


Rob in New Jersey