Re: [TMIC] AntiDepressant

2009-06-20 Thread lynne myers
Debi, 
Antidepressants like elevil, cymbalta, desyrel and others are often prescribed 
for pain relieving properties so they were not lying to you when they gave it 
to you.  These often have great results.
Lynne

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From: bradebi brad...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [TMIC] AntiDepressant
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com, Akua a...@artfarm.com
Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 5:51 PM



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Way to go Akua !...when I got my DX of TM..I was put on elavil every night 
before bed. I was told it was for the chronic pain... But I came to find out it 
is a antidepressant. And that was it...I didn't get PT at that time because  my 
disability was un-diagnosed for several years...my spastic paraplegia was 
treated with neurontin..and I had a sleep study because of spasms in the 
night..and the results came back with I twitch kick and spasm every 20 
seconds..and I have a very low breathing and have to have oxygen at 
night.but because I have TM the Doctor said he couldn't tell if I had sleep 
apnea or it is the TM causing it. 
I too have to dress like a dork and I like the fact of being in the chair I can 
hide if I am wet.
When I moved up here..I discovered there isn't many places that are handicap 
accessible (up in the high Sierras!!)..so I have had to fight to get 
everything!..and I am fixin to join or help people here that are disabled..and 
are house bound...So I agree Akua someone needs to teach me how to live like a 
paraplegic.
Debi 
 


 
 
 

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Re: [TMIC] AntiDepressant

2009-06-19 Thread Lawrence King
I found going on Cymbalta very helpful even though I've remained  
walking wounded the entire time. I found it lifted my mood without  
interfering with my ability to address my life adjustment issues like  
the older generation of antidepressants would have done.  This  
disease hit me hard even though I suffered less than most on this  
list because I tend to be terminally serious to begin with (my saving  
grace is I married a very comical person).


Now a 1 3/4 years after starting cymbalta I feel ready to go off with  
my doctors blessing and over the last month I have gradually reduced  
the 30 mg dose down to 15mg.  As I began writing this letter I  
thought it a good Idea to encourage you to try a depression test or 2  
(google it and you'll find ton's)  Then realized it would be a good  
thing to take my own advice as a measure of my weaning success and am  
happy to say that even at half the lowest available commercial dose I  
am not back sliding mood wise.  If you take a few and find you are  
not depressed then tell your doctor, I'm sure he or she will be  
reassured by your findings.


For me going an antidepressant has been a hand up to getting better  
and it's okay to ask for help!  I no longer need that hand up but I  
acknowledge that having TM as an impairment I may need a hand up  
again when life throws me another curve ball. But now I know how to  
ask for it and how to get off of it as well!


recovering Alcoholics in AA call trying to get sober by yourself   
white knuckle sobriety  we TM survivors have enough pain in our  
lives, we don't need to white knuckle our mood on top of everything  
else we have to face.


Mindy the Artist

On Jun 19, 2009, at 4:12 PM, Akua wrote:

One thing the neuro told me in ICU was that an antidepressant was  
very important because of having to go thru all of the issues of  
being paralyzed and the changes I would have to go thru with my life.



When the Drs said that to me, I wanted to slap them. I wanted a  
laptop, not a pill. I felt like they were setting me up for further  
disability.  Of course I was unhappy. Fearful even, but I wasn't  
depressed.
I never approached depression til last year when i came home to  
ramps i couldn't use, no transport
 and an inaccessible shower--- after waiting over a year for the  
house rehab by an agency that paid an alleged expert to oversee the  
construction. This is about externalities blocking me. Too bad the  
money I don't spend on drugs is not available to me to do the other  
things I need done: another hour or two of an aide, paratransit,  
help weeding in the yard, an accessible front ramp, a lift to my  
second floor... little things that would make a HUGE difference in  
the quality of my life. Or even--- dare I say---  fixing the  
condition: a standing machine, an exerciser, water therapy, stem  
cell therapy... instead of all or any of these things, instead of  
addressing causes or even teaching me how to live as a paraplegic  
--- all or any of these ---  fix or assist with them before you  
deem me depressed and prescribe a pill.


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Re: [TMIC] AntiDepressant

2009-06-19 Thread bradebi
Way to go Akua !...when I got my DX of TM..I was put on elavil every night
before bed. I was told it was for the chronic pain... But I came to find out
it is a antidepressant. And that was it...I didn't get PT at that time
because  my disability was un-diagnosed for several years...my spastic
paraplegia was treated with neurontin..and I had a sleep study because of
spasms in the night..and the results came back with I twitch kick and spasm
every 20 seconds..and I have a very low breathing and have to have oxygen at
night.but because I have TM the Doctor said he couldn't tell if I had
sleep apnea or it is the TM causing it. 
I too have to dress like a dork and I like the fact of being in the chair I
can hide if I am wet.
When I moved up here..I discovered there isn't many places that are handicap
accessible (up in the high Sierras!!)..so I have had to fight to get
everything!..and I am fixin to join or help people here that are disabled.
and are house bound...So I agree Akua someone needs to teach me how to live
like a paraplegic.
Debi 

 

     
From: Akua
Date: 6/19/2009 1:13:28 PM
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [TMIC] AntiDepressant
 
One thing the neuro told me in ICU was that an antidepressant was very
important because of having to go thru all of the issues of being paralyzed
and the changes I would have to go thru with my life.



When the Drs said that to me, I wanted to slap them. I wanted a laptop, not
a pill. I felt like they were setting me up for further disability.  Of
course I was unhappy. Fearful even, but I wasn't depressed.
I never approached depression til last year when i came home to ramps i
couldn't use, no transport
 and an inaccessible shower--- after waiting over a year for the house rehab
by an agency that paid an alleged expert to oversee the construction. This
is about externalities blocking me. Too bad the money I don't spend on drugs
is not available to me to do the other things I need done: another hour or
two of an aide, paratransit, help weeding in the yard, an accessible front
ramp, a lift to my second floor... little things that would make a HUGE
difference in the quality of my life. Or even--- dare I say---  fixing the
condition: a standing machine, an exerciser, water therapy, stem cell
therapy... instead of all or any of these things, instead of addressing
causes or even teaching me how to live as a paraplegic --- all or any of
these ---  fix or assist with them before you deem me depressed and
prescribe a pill.


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Re: [TMIC] AntiDepressant

2009-06-19 Thread Akua
so I have had to fight to get everything!..and I am fixin to join or 
help people here that are disabled..and are house bound...


YAY  Debi!!!
I am starting Corning ParaTransit Services--- a paratransit 
nonprofit.  There is next to no public transportation here and no 
public paratransit.  House Bound is not solely a function of 
disability -- it's about the LACK OF TOOLS.


A friend argued with me when i suggested that not everyone who gets 
Meals on Wheels may need it.
She's in New York City with cabs, subways, buses, dial a ride, and 
deliveries. Up here, NO ONE DELIVERS unless its Drugs, Chinese Food 
or Pizza No Groceries and no buses to get groceries!


20.8% of my county is Disabled. Perhaps that's why I'm here and 
afflicted with TM. To make a change!


Dare to Struggle! Dare to Win!
Akua


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Re: [TMIC] AntiDepressant

2009-06-19 Thread bradebi
We don't have a Para Transit here..but there is a organization here called
OPEN and they will drive someone somewhere..like for example...I have Skin
Cancer..there isn't a place for me to go to here, so I have to go to UC
Davis in Sacramento..it is about 100 miles away from me...and I don't have a
car, we have city busses but they don't go there...so OPEN is going to take
me there on June 30th for free...they have a fund raiser once a year to get
the money they need..they also do other things for the poor old  or disabled


 
---Original Message---
 
From: Akua
Date: 6/19/2009 3:54:43 PM
To: bradebi;  tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [TMIC] AntiDepressant
 
so I have had to fight to get everything!..and I am fixin to join or
help people here that are disabled..and are house bound...
 
YAY  Debi!!!
I am starting Corning ParaTransit Services--- a paratransit
nonprofit.  There is next to no public transportation here and no
public paratransit.  House Bound is not solely a function of
disability -- it's about the LACK OF TOOLS.
 
A friend argued with me when i suggested that not everyone who gets
Meals on Wheels may need it.
She's in New York City with cabs, subways, buses, dial a ride, and
deliveries. Up here, NO ONE DELIVERS unless its Drugs, Chinese Food
or Pizza No Groceries and no buses to get groceries!
 
20.8% of my county is Disabled. Perhaps that's why I'm here and
afflicted with TM. To make a change!
 
Dare to Struggle! Dare to Win!
Akua
 
 
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