Re: [TMIC] Shingles vaccine
My neurologist thinks that my last Flu shot (4/2004) probably precipitated my TM. I was told then to never receive any further type of vaccine. I have not even had a tetanus shot in 14 years. Linda E. East Texas From: heyjude48...@aol.com heyjude48...@aol.com To: le...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Shingles vaccine Hi Linda, I hate to butt in, but I was wondering what your physician says about you having the flu shot. Mine is strictly against it and I'm worried about Dalton getting it. I'd hate to see it exacerbate his TM symptoms. You take care now. TIAD In a message dated 4/30/2013 12:34:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, le...@sbcglobal.net writes: Dalton, I would be interested to see if this vaccine could improve your symptoms. but please consult with your doctor or even an infectious disease MD before going ahead. I have wanted to get this vaccine, but my MD says no. I have a friend who got shingles said it was the worst pain she ever had she still had pain after the blisters were gone. Take care. Linda E. East Texas
Re: [TMIC] Shingles vaccine
I've had TM since 1992, It's up to each of us to decide if we want the vaccines. I have the flu shot every year, have had the pneumonia vaccine and the shingles vaccine. All with no negative effects. That's my choice and my doctor doesn't disagree. It tough to weight what direction you want to take with these vaccines. Cindy McLeroy Cindy Budrow cinb...@gmail.com wrote: = I had shingles 20 years ago. It could be the cause of my tm. I wish they informed people that had the chicken poxs that there was a chance of them getting shingles. I had never heard of it. My older sister also got shingles after me. Lets hope she doesn't get tm too. On Apr 30, 2013 12:34 PM, Linda Egli le...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Dalton, I would be interested to see if this vaccine could improve your symptoms. but please consult with your doctor or even an infectious disease MD before going ahead. I have wanted to get this vaccine, but my MD says no. I have a friend who got shingles said it was the worst pain she ever had she still had pain after the blisters were gone. Take care. Linda E. East Texas
Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine
Two attacks! Just the same as I experienced; In fact, I thought it was MS because of the six week interval between the first attack and the second. And then my spine burned for days, weeks, after. But, all praises to Him! I walked again. However, the recurrent bouts of seizures, fits, whateverhave caused my early retirement. I still feel lucky. Compared to Akua and others on this list, mine was a glancing blow. Dalton From: Akua a...@artfarm.com Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 23:39:28 -0400 To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine Resent-From: tmic-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 20:41:49 -0700 Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine AGreed! And my TM struck twice -- I walked away the first time after a long weekend in the hospital and the second time -- a month later -- i was knocked down. I suspect that the steroids left me open to greater attack from the unidentified underlying cause. I had a very, very mild case of TM but it persisted. Stupidly I did not go to the doctor immediately but waited for weeks and weeks. I was asked the same questions...vaccines, bug bites...this was before I was actually diagnosed with TM. I was also rather surprised that my neurologist actually asked me if it was possible that someone could be poisoning me. That was a bit freaky to be asked that. Ultimately it was concluded that mine was also idiopathic. The months prior to my coming down with it I suffered a long bout of Bronchitis, followed by a miscarriage which was followed by a tooth problem that I ended up getting a root canal on. Who knows if any of that contributed to it. Anyway, as far as a shingles vaccine? I personally would not get one. I never get the flu shot either or the pneumonia. No thanks. That being said, I would really, really hate to come down with Shingles. Yikes! On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 11:21 PM, Akua a...@artfarm.com wrote: after they asked me about the flu shot, they asked me about bug bites. I did a lot of tromping around, gathering weeds for papermaking and gardening before TM struck, A Lyme sufferer told me theat most Lyme goes undiagnosed and unrecognized and suggested that my idiopathic TM might be Lyme's. Akua --
Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine
That's mother nature fer ya.. always throwing us stuff. BobbyJim - Original Message - From: john snodgrass To: susan zieke ; bobberino ; tmic Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine it is a fearful thought that something that happened to us years ago can cause something to go wrong today -- From: susan zieke zri...@charter.net To: bobberino elbobber...@earthlink.net; tmic tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine I found out 2 yrs ago, 9 years post tm onset that Lyme's is the root cause of my tm---99.9% sure. I'd had a bout with Lymes 8 years earlier, felt like I had gthe flu, ached all over, feet hurt to walk...took the doxycyline for 3 weeks, all better, or so I thought til 8 years later. Lymes causes neurological disease, as well as other things, it can attack any part of the body.. sue On Oct 21, 2011, at 9:55 AM, bobberino wrote: When my wife first came down with TM, back in San Francisco, 1997, one of the first questions asked by the doc was had she been out where there are ticks carrying Lyme's disease. No, she hadn't. I've read somewhere that Lyme's is a bif suspect in CNS events. BobbyJim - Original Message - From: PAMELA S To: lynnemye...@yahoo.com ; TMC Group Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:30 PM Subject: RE: [TMIC] shingles vaccine Lynn and Dalton and john and all; My doctor in Michigan told me no immunizations. Here on the west coast, they say, there's no evidence to prove they cause problems. I took the shots 2 years ago...all of them they told me to. And, I've paid. I got sick again. Who knows if there's a connection. I don't want to take it again, but I don't want the flu either. I've seen so many people who had sores that looked like shingles, and burned like shingles, but since the viral swab didn't show shingles, the doctor told them there was no evidence of shinglesI'm not sold on much of anything anymore I guess. -- Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 06:01:24 -0700 From: lynnemye...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine To: tmic-list@eskimo.com I have gotten shingles three times in the last few years, and to say the least it is miserable. But on the recommendation of many doctors over the years I do not get any vaccines. My TM was also idiopathic and the reason I was given was because they do not know what caused my TM I should not take any risks that could cause my immune system to go into overdrive again. Lynne --- On Thu, 10/20/11, john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com wrote: From: john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine To: PAMELA S subers...@msn.com, pjv1...@chartermi.net pjv1...@chartermi.net, TMC Group tmic-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, October 20, 2011, 6:14 AM I have a weak mind, I hope all this information doesnt cause me to have shingles!! -- From: PAMELA S subers...@msn.com To: pjv1...@chartermi.net; TMC Group tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:37 AM Subject: RE: [TMIC] shingles vaccine You know...I'm not going to get this shot. But, shingles is what led to my mothers cardiomyapathy and congestive heart failure. -- Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:35:34 -0400 From: pjv1...@chartermi.net To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] shingles vaccine Our local newspaper has a medical column in the Sunday edition by Dr. Anthony Komaroff. www.ask doctor k.com Sunday had a column titled shingles vaccine is a good idea for adults over 60. A healthy 65 year old woman asked - what is shingles and should I get the shingles vaccine. The doctor explained shingles and the vaccine. Here is a portion of the article. Getting the vaccine does not gurantee that you will noy get shingles. But it does reduce your chances by 50 percent or more. And it does an even better job of reducing your risk of postherpetic neuralgia. I've had patients worry that the vaccine itself could give them shingles. That's because the shingles vaccine is made with a weakened - not dead - form of the virus. And a tiny percentage of people do get either a shingles or chicken pox - like rash within a month or so of getting the vaccine. You may wonder if the risks associated
Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine
I agree with ya 100% Pamela if I done something that caused me pain theres no way i would repeat that action From: PAMELA S subers...@msn.com To: lynnemye...@yahoo.com; TMC Group tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:30 PM Subject: RE: [TMIC] shingles vaccine Lynn and Dalton and john and all; My doctor in Michigan told me no immunizations. Here on the west coast, they say, there's no evidence to prove they cause problems. I took the shots 2 years ago...all of them they told me to. And, I've paid. I got sick again. Who knows if there's a connection. I don't want to take it again, but I don't want the flu either. I've seen so many people who had sores that looked like shingles, and burned like shingles, but since the viral swab didn't show shingles, the doctor told them there was no evidence of shinglesI'm not sold on much of anything anymore I guess. Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 06:01:24 -0700 From: lynnemye...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine To: tmic-list@eskimo.com I have gotten shingles three times in the last few years, and to say the least it is miserable. But on the recommendation of many doctors over the years I do not get any vaccines. My TM was also idiopathic and the reason I was given was because they do not know what caused my TM I should not take any risks that could cause my immune system to go into overdrive again. Lynne --- On Thu, 10/20/11, john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com wrote: From: john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine To: PAMELA S subers...@msn.com, pjv1...@chartermi.net pjv1...@chartermi.net, TMC Group tmic-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, October 20, 2011, 6:14 AM I have a weak mind, I hope all this information doesnt cause me to have shingles!! From: PAMELA S subers...@msn.com To: pjv1...@chartermi.net; TMC Group tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:37 AM Subject: RE: [TMIC] shingles vaccine You know...I'm not going to get this shot. But, shingles is what led to my mothers cardiomyapathy and congestive heart failure. Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:35:34 -0400 From: pjv1...@chartermi.net To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] shingles vaccine Our local newspaper has a medical column in the Sunday edition by Dr. Anthony Komaroff. www.ask doctor k.com Sunday had a column titled shingles vaccine is a good idea for adults over 60. A healthy 65 year old woman asked - what is shingles and should I get the shingles vaccine. The doctor explained shingles and the vaccine. Here is a portion of the article. Getting the vaccine does not gurantee that you will noy get shingles. But it does reduce your chances by 50 percent or more. And it does an even better job of reducing your risk of postherpetic neuralgia. I've had patients worry that the vaccine itself could give them shingles. That's because the shingles vaccine is made with a weakened - not dead - form of the virus. And a tiny percentage of people do get either a shingles or chicken pox - like rash within a month or so of getting the vaccine. You may wonder if the risks associated with the shingles vaccine, though minimal, outweigh its benefits. And if we were only talking about shingles, you might be right. It's not pleasant, but most people get through shingles just fine. Postherpetic neuralgia is another story. It can last for months, even years, and be debilitating. The shingles vaccine can cut the risk of that happening by two thirds. And I'd say that tips the balance in favor getting the vaccine. I've voted with my feet. I got the vaccine, because I've seen too many of my patients suffer from postherpetic neuralgia. Chronic pain can disrupt a person's life (end of article) Jim, I think this is a question for a neurologist. Unfortunately, I haven't seen mine in three years so I cannot ask for you. I think it would be good of all our Tmers who are seeing a neuro to call and ask if the neuro votes yes or no for the vaccine and post the results for us. - Regarding the flu shot: I did not have a flu shot proir to my TM that was later lableled idiopathic - undetermined cause. I was also asked dozens of times during my hospitalization and rehab if I had had the flu shot thus determining that all medical personal thought the shot causes TM. Not so. Medical personnel asked if we had had the flu shot because they know the flu shot can cause various reactions and it is one of the many questions they ask a patient. The neuro who diagnosed me with TM asked if I had the flu shot during his first observation of me. I saw him for five years post TM and learned that he, his wife, and children received the flu shot annually. I asked my PCP in September why he didn't ask me if I wanted a flu shot. He said, Do
Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine
When my wife first came down with TM, back in San Francisco, 1997, one of the first questions asked by the doc was had she been out where there are ticks carrying Lyme's disease. No, she hadn't. I've read somewhere that Lyme's is a bif suspect in CNS events. BobbyJim - Original Message - From: PAMELA S To: lynnemye...@yahoo.com ; TMC Group Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:30 PM Subject: RE: [TMIC] shingles vaccine Lynn and Dalton and john and all; My doctor in Michigan told me no immunizations. Here on the west coast, they say, there's no evidence to prove they cause problems. I took the shots 2 years ago...all of them they told me to. And, I've paid. I got sick again. Who knows if there's a connection. I don't want to take it again, but I don't want the flu either. I've seen so many people who had sores that looked like shingles, and burned like shingles, but since the viral swab didn't show shingles, the doctor told them there was no evidence of shinglesI'm not sold on much of anything anymore I guess. -- Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 06:01:24 -0700 From: lynnemye...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine To: tmic-list@eskimo.com I have gotten shingles three times in the last few years, and to say the least it is miserable. But on the recommendation of many doctors over the years I do not get any vaccines. My TM was also idiopathic and the reason I was given was because they do not know what caused my TM I should not take any risks that could cause my immune system to go into overdrive again. Lynne --- On Thu, 10/20/11, john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com wrote: From: john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine To: PAMELA S subers...@msn.com, pjv1...@chartermi.net pjv1...@chartermi.net, TMC Group tmic-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, October 20, 2011, 6:14 AM I have a weak mind, I hope all this information doesnt cause me to have shingles!! -- From: PAMELA S subers...@msn.com To: pjv1...@chartermi.net; TMC Group tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:37 AM Subject: RE: [TMIC] shingles vaccine You know...I'm not going to get this shot. But, shingles is what led to my mothers cardiomyapathy and congestive heart failure. -- Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:35:34 -0400 From: pjv1...@chartermi.net To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] shingles vaccine Our local newspaper has a medical column in the Sunday edition by Dr. Anthony Komaroff. www.ask doctor k.com Sunday had a column titled shingles vaccine is a good idea for adults over 60. A healthy 65 year old woman asked - what is shingles and should I get the shingles vaccine. The doctor explained shingles and the vaccine. Here is a portion of the article. Getting the vaccine does not gurantee that you will noy get shingles. But it does reduce your chances by 50 percent or more. And it does an even better job of reducing your risk of postherpetic neuralgia. I've had patients worry that the vaccine itself could give them shingles. That's because the shingles vaccine is made with a weakened - not dead - form of the virus. And a tiny percentage of people do get either a shingles or chicken pox - like rash within a month or so of getting the vaccine. You may wonder if the risks associated with the shingles vaccine, though minimal, outweigh its benefits. And if we were only talking about shingles, you might be right. It's not pleasant, but most people get through shingles just fine. Postherpetic neuralgia is another story. It can last for months, even years, and be debilitating. The shingles vaccine can cut the risk of that happening by two thirds. And I'd say that tips the balance in favor getting the vaccine. I've voted with my feet. I got the vaccine, because I've seen too many of my patients suffer from postherpetic neuralgia. Chronic pain can disrupt a person's life (end of article) Jim, I think this is a question for a neurologist. Unfortunately, I haven't seen mine in three years so I cannot ask for you. I think it would be good of all our Tmers who are seeing a neuro to call and ask if the neuro votes yes or no for the vaccine and post the results for us. - Regarding the flu shot: I did not have a flu shot proir to my TM that was later lableled idiopathic - undetermined cause. I was also asked dozens of times during my hospitalization and rehab if I had had the flu
Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine
I found out 2 yrs ago, 9 years post tm onset that Lyme's is the root cause of my tm---99.9% sure. I'd had a bout with Lymes 8 years earlier, felt like I had gthe flu, ached all over, feet hurt to walk...took the doxycyline for 3 weeks, all better, or so I thought til 8 years later. Lymes causes neurological disease, as well as other things, it can attack any part of the body.. sue On Oct 21, 2011, at 9:55 AM, bobberino wrote: When my wife first came down with TM, back in San Francisco, 1997, one of the first questions asked by the doc was had she been out where there are ticks carrying Lyme's disease. No, she hadn't. I've read somewhere that Lyme's is a bif suspect in CNS events. BobbyJim - Original Message - From: PAMELA S To: lynnemye...@yahoo.com ; TMC Group Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:30 PM Subject: RE: [TMIC] shingles vaccine Lynn and Dalton and john and all; My doctor in Michigan told me no immunizations. Here on the west coast, they say, there's no evidence to prove they cause problems. I took the shots 2 years ago...all of them they told me to. And, I've paid. I got sick again. Who knows if there's a connection. I don't want to take it again, but I don't want the flu either. I've seen so many people who had sores that looked like shingles, and burned like shingles, but since the viral swab didn't show shingles, the doctor told them there was no evidence of shinglesI'm not sold on much of anything anymore I guess. Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 06:01:24 -0700 From: lynnemye...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine To: tmic-list@eskimo.com I have gotten shingles three times in the last few years, and to say the least it is miserable. But on the recommendation of many doctors over the years I do not get any vaccines. My TM was also idiopathic and the reason I was given was because they do not know what caused my TM I should not take any risks that could cause my immune system to go into overdrive again. Lynne --- On Thu, 10/20/11, john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com wrote: From: john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine To: PAMELA S subers...@msn.com, pjv1...@chartermi.net pjv1...@chartermi.net , TMC Group tmic-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, October 20, 2011, 6:14 AM I have a weak mind, I hope all this information doesnt cause me to have shingles!! From: PAMELA S subers...@msn.com To: pjv1...@chartermi.net; TMC Group tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:37 AM Subject: RE: [TMIC] shingles vaccine You know...I'm not going to get this shot. But, shingles is what led to my mothers cardiomyapathy and congestive heart failure. Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:35:34 -0400 From: pjv1...@chartermi.net To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] shingles vaccine Our local newspaper has a medical column in the Sunday edition by Dr. Anthony Komaroff. www.ask doctor k.com Sunday had a column titled shingles vaccine is a good idea for adults over 60. A healthy 65 year old woman asked - what is shingles and should I get the shingles vaccine. The doctor explained shingles and the vaccine. Here is a portion of the article. Getting the vaccine does not gurantee that you will noy get shingles. But it does reduce your chances by 50 percent or more. And it does an even better job of reducing your risk of postherpetic neuralgia. I've had patients worry that the vaccine itself could give them shingles. That's because the shingles vaccine is made with a weakened - not dead - form of the virus. And a tiny percentage of people do get either a shingles or chicken pox - like rash within a month or so of getting the vaccine. You may wonder if the risks associated with the shingles vaccine, though minimal, outweigh its benefits. And if we were only talking about shingles, you might be right. It's not pleasant, but most people get through shingles just fine. Postherpetic neuralgia is another story. It can last for months, even years, and be debilitating. The shingles vaccine can cut the risk of that happening by two thirds. And I'd say that tips the balance in favor getting the vaccine. I've voted with my feet. I got the vaccine, because I've seen too many of my patients suffer from postherpetic neuralgia. Chronic pain can disrupt a person's life (end of article) Jim, I think this is a question for a neurologist. Unfortunately, I haven't seen mine in three years so I cannot ask for you. I think it would be good of all our Tmers who are seeing a neuro to call and ask if the neuro votes yes or no for the vaccine and post the results for us. - Regarding the flu shot: I did not have a flu shot proir to my TM that was later lableled idiopathic - undetermined cause. I was also asked dozens of times during my hospitalization and rehab if I had had the flu shot thus determining that all medical
Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine
I have read that ,,asked my neuro about it and he told me that was something he checked for and ruled out. thats what he said. he might be right he might be wrong thus rendering the term idiopathic just a thought From: bobberino elbobber...@earthlink.net To: PAMELA S subers...@msn.com; lynnemye...@yahoo.com; TMC Group tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine When my wife first came down with TM, back in San Francisco, 1997, one of the first questions asked by the doc was had she been out where there are ticks carrying Lyme's disease. No, she hadn't. I've read somewhere that Lyme's is a bif suspect in CNS events. BobbyJim - Original Message - From: PAMELA S To: lynnemye...@yahoo.com ; TMC Group Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:30 PM Subject: RE: [TMIC] shingles vaccine Lynn and Dalton and john and all; My doctor in Michigan told me no immunizations. Here on the west coast, they say, there's no evidence to prove they cause problems. I took the shots 2 years ago...all of them they told me to. And, I've paid. I got sick again. Who knows if there's a connection. I don't want to take it again, but I don't want the flu either. I've seen so many people who had sores that looked like shingles, and burned like shingles, but since the viral swab didn't show shingles, the doctor told them there was no evidence of shinglesI'm not sold on much of anything anymore I guess. Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 06:01:24 -0700 From: lynnemye...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine To: tmic-list@eskimo.com I have gotten shingles three times in the last few years, and to say the least it is miserable. But on the recommendation of many doctors over the years I do not get any vaccines. My TM was also idiopathic and the reason I was given was because they do not know what caused my TM I should not take any risks that could cause my immune system to go into overdrive again. Lynne --- On Thu, 10/20/11, john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com wrote: From: john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine To: PAMELA S subers...@msn.com, pjv1...@chartermi.net pjv1...@chartermi.net, TMC Group tmic-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, October 20, 2011, 6:14 AM I have a weak mind, I hope all this information doesnt cause me to have shingles!! From: PAMELA S subers...@msn.com To: pjv1...@chartermi.net; TMC Group tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:37 AM Subject: RE: [TMIC] shingles vaccine You know...I'm not going to get this shot. But, shingles is what led to my mothers cardiomyapathy and congestive heart failure. Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:35:34 -0400 From: pjv1...@chartermi.net To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] shingles vaccine Our local newspaper has a medical column in the Sunday edition by Dr. Anthony Komaroff. www.ask doctor k.com Sunday had a column titled shingles vaccine is a good idea for adults over 60. A healthy 65 year old woman asked - what is shingles and should I get the shingles vaccine. The doctor explained shingles and the vaccine. Here is a portion of the article. Getting the vaccine does not gurantee that you will noy get shingles. But it does reduce your chances by 50 percent or more. And it does an even better job of reducing your risk of postherpetic neuralgia. I've had patients worry that the vaccine itself could give them shingles. That's because the shingles vaccine is made with a weakened - not dead - form of the virus. And a tiny percentage of people do get either a shingles or chicken pox - like rash within a month or so of getting the vaccine. You may wonder if the risks associated with the shingles vaccine, though minimal, outweigh its benefits. And if we were only talking about shingles, you might be right. It's not pleasant, but most people get through shingles just fine. Postherpetic neuralgia is another story. It can last for months, even years, and be debilitating. The shingles vaccine can cut the risk of that happening by two thirds. And I'd say that tips the balance in favor getting the vaccine. I've voted with my feet. I got the vaccine, because I've seen too many of my patients suffer from postherpetic neuralgia. Chronic pain can disrupt a person's life (end of article) Jim, I think this is a question for a neurologist. Unfortunately, I haven't seen mine in three years so I cannot ask for you. I think it would be good of all our Tmers who are seeing a neuro to call and ask if the neuro votes yes or no for the vaccine and post the results for us. - Regarding the flu shot: I
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it is a fearful thought that something that happened to us years ago can cause something to go wrong today From: susan zieke zri...@charter.net To: bobberino elbobber...@earthlink.net; tmic tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine I found out 2 yrs ago, 9 years post tm onset that Lyme's is the root cause of my tm---99.9% sure. I'd had a bout with Lymes 8 years earlier, felt like I had gthe flu, ached all over, feet hurt to walk...took the doxycyline for 3 weeks, all better, or so I thought til 8 years later. Lymes causes neurological disease, as well as other things, it can attack any part of the body.. sue On Oct 21, 2011, at 9:55 AM, bobberino wrote: When my wife first came down with TM, back in San Francisco, 1997, one of the first questions asked by the doc was had she been out where there are ticks carrying Lyme's disease. No, she hadn't. I've read somewhere that Lyme's is a bif suspect in CNS events. BobbyJim - Original Message - From: PAMELA S To: lynnemye...@yahoo.com ; TMC Group Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:30 PM Subject: RE: [TMIC] shingles vaccine Lynn and Dalton and john and all; My doctor in Michigan told me no immunizations. Here on the west coast, they say, there's no evidence to prove they cause problems. I took the shots 2 years ago...all of them they told me to. And, I've paid. I got sick again. Who knows if there's a connection. I don't want to take it again, but I don't want the flu either. I've seen so many people who had sores that looked like shingles, and burned like shingles, but since the viral swab didn't show shingles, the doctor told them there was no evidence of shinglesI'm not sold on much of anything anymore I guess. Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 06:01:24 -0700 From: lynnemye...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine To: tmic-list@eskimo.com I have gotten shingles three times in the last few years, and to say the least it is miserable. But on the recommendation of many doctors over the years I do not get any vaccines. My TM was also idiopathic and the reason I was given was because they do not know what caused my TM I should not take any risks that could cause my immune system to go into overdrive again. Lynne --- On Thu, 10/20/11, john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com wrote: From: john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine To: PAMELA S subers...@msn.com, pjv1...@chartermi.net pjv1...@chartermi.net, TMC Group tmic-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, October 20, 2011, 6:14 AM I have a weak mind, I hope all this information doesnt cause me to have shingles!! From: PAMELA S subers...@msn.com To: pjv1...@chartermi.net; TMC Group tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:37 AM Subject: RE: [TMIC] shingles vaccine You know...I'm not going to get this shot. But, shingles is what led to my mothers cardiomyapathy and congestive heart failure. Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:35:34 -0400 From: pjv1...@chartermi.net To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] shingles vaccine Our local newspaper has a medical column in the Sunday edition by Dr. Anthony Komaroff. www.ask doctor k.com Sunday had a column titled shingles vaccine is a good idea for adults over 60. A healthy 65 year old woman asked - what is shingles and should I get the shingles vaccine. The doctor explained shingles and the vaccine. Here is a portion of the article. Getting the vaccine does not gurantee that you will noy get shingles. But it does reduce your chances by 50 percent or more. And it does an even better job of reducing your risk of postherpetic neuralgia. I've had patients worry that the vaccine itself could give them shingles. That's because the shingles vaccine is made with a weakened - not dead - form of the virus. And a tiny percentage of people do get either a shingles or chicken pox - like rash within a month or so of getting the vaccine. You may wonder if the risks associated with the shingles vaccine, though minimal, outweigh its benefits. And if we were only talking about shingles, you might be right. It's not pleasant, but most people get through shingles just fine. Postherpetic neuralgia is another story. It can last for months, even years, and be debilitating. The shingles vaccine can cut the risk of that happening by two thirds. And I'd say that tips the balance in favor getting the vaccine. I've voted with my feet. I got the vaccine, because I've seen too many of my patients suffer from postherpetic neuralgia. Chronic pain can disrupt a person's life (end of article) Jim, I think this is a question for a neurologist. Unfortunately, I haven't seen mine in three years so I cannot ask for you. I think it would be good of all our Tmers who are seeing
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please remove me from your e-mail list! --- On Fri, 10/21/11, susan zieke zri...@charter.net wrote: From: susan zieke zri...@charter.net Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine To: bobberino elbobber...@earthlink.net, tmic tmic-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, October 21, 2011, 3:54 PM I found out 2 yrs ago, 9 years post tm onset that Lyme's is the root cause of my tm---99.9% sure. I'd had a bout with Lymes 8 years earlier, felt like I had gthe flu, ached all over, feet hurt to walk...took the doxycyline for 3 weeks, all better, or so I thought til 8 years later. Lymes causes neurological disease, as well as other things, it can attack any part of the body.. sue On Oct 21, 2011, at 9:55 AM, bobberino wrote: When my wife first came down with TM, back in San Francisco, 1997, one of the first questions asked by the doc was had she been out where there are ticks carrying Lyme's disease. No, she hadn't. I've read somewhere that Lyme's is a bif suspect in CNS events. BobbyJim - Original Message - From: PAMELA S To: lynnemye...@yahoo.com ; TMC Group Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:30 PM Subject: RE: [TMIC] shingles vaccine Lynn and Dalton and john and all; My doctor in Michigan told me no immunizations. Here on the west coast, they say, there's no evidence to prove they cause problems. I took the shots 2 years ago...all of them they told me to. And, I've paid. I got sick again. Who knows if there's a connection. I don't want to take it again, but I don't want the flu either. I've seen so many people who had sores that looked like shingles, and burned like shingles, but since the viral swab didn't show shingles, the doctor told them there was no evidence of shinglesI'm not sold on much of anything anymore I guess. Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 06:01:24 -0700 From: lynnemye...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine To: tmic-list@eskimo.com I have gotten shingles three times in the last few years, and to say the least it is miserable. But on the recommendation of many doctors over the years I do not get any vaccines. My TM was also idiopathic and the reason I was given was because they do not know what caused my TM I should not take any risks that could cause my immune system to go into overdrive again. Lynne --- On Thu, 10/20/11, john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com wrote: From: john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine To: PAMELA S subers...@msn.com, pjv1...@chartermi.net pjv1...@chartermi.net, TMC Group tmic-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, October 20, 2011, 6:14 AM I have a weak mind, I hope all this information doesnt cause me to have shingles!! From: PAMELA S subers...@msn.com To: pjv1...@chartermi.net; TMC Group tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:37 AM Subject: RE: [TMIC] shingles vaccine You know...I'm not going to get this shot. But, shingles is what led to my mothers cardiomyapathy and congestive heart failure. Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:35:34 -0400 From: pjv1...@chartermi.net To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] shingles vaccine Our local newspaper has a medical column in the Sunday edition by Dr. Anthony Komaroff. www.ask doctor k.com Sunday had a column titled shingles vaccine is a good idea for adults over 60. A healthy 65 year old woman asked - what is shingles and should I get the shingles vaccine. The doctor explained shingles and the vaccine. Here is a portion of the article. Getting the vaccine does not gurantee that you will noy get shingles. But it does reduce your chances by 50 percent or more. And it does an even better job of reducing your risk of postherpetic neuralgia. I've had patients worry that the vaccine itself could give them shingles. That's because the shingles vaccine is made with a weakened - not dead - form of the virus. And a tiny percentage of people do get either a shingles or chicken pox - like rash within a month or so of getting the vaccine. You may wonder if the risks associated with the shingles vaccine, though minimal, outweigh its benefits. And if we were only talking about shingles, you might be right. It's not pleasant, but most people get through shingles just fine. Postherpetic neuralgia is another story. It can last for months, even years, and be debilitating. The shingles vaccine can cut the risk of that happening by two thirds. And I'd say that tips the balance in favor getting the vaccine. I've voted with my feet. I got the vaccine, because I've seen too many of my patients suffer from postherpetic neuralgia. Chronic pain can disrupt a person's life (end of article) Jim, I think this is a question for a neurologist. Unfortunately, I haven't seen mine in three years so I cannot ask for you. I think it would be good of all our Tmers who are seeing a neuro to call and ask if the neuro votes yes or no for the vaccine and post the results for us
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after they asked me about the flu shot, they asked me about bug bites. I did a lot of tromping around, gathering weeds for papermaking and gardening before TM struck, A Lyme sufferer told me theat most Lyme goes undiagnosed and unrecognized and suggested that my idiopathic TM might be Lyme's. Akua Wells Fargo took care of the compensation where I worked and they told me i could have gotten it from a bug bite. I should have gotten a lawyer but in our shape especially in the first months who is able mentally to fight bureaucratic systems. idiopathic = scape goat From: Dalton Garis malugss...@gmail.com To: lynne myers lynnemye...@yahoo.com; tmic tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine I also have idiopathic TM, which means, I suppose, that it I a pathogen of which the doctors are idiots. --
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I had a very, very mild case of TM but it persisted. Stupidly I did not go to the doctor immediately but waited for weeks and weeks. I was asked the same questions...vaccines, bug bites...this was before I was actually diagnosed with TM. I was also rather surprised that my neurologist actually asked me if it was possible that someone could be poisoning me. That was a bit freaky to be asked that. Ultimately it was concluded that mine was also idiopathic. The months prior to my coming down with it I suffered a long bout of Bronchitis, followed by a miscarriage which was followed by a tooth problem that I ended up getting a root canal on. Who knows if any of that contributed to it. Anyway, as far as a shingles vaccine? I personally would not get one. I never get the flu shot either or the pneumonia. No thanks. That being said, I would really, really hate to come down with Shingles. Yikes! On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 11:21 PM, Akua a...@artfarm.com wrote: ** after they asked me about the flu shot, they asked me about bug bites. I did a lot of tromping around, gathering weeds for papermaking and gardening before TM struck, A Lyme sufferer told me theat most Lyme goes undiagnosed and unrecognized and suggested that my idiopathic TM might be Lyme's. Akua Wells Fargo took care of the compensation where I worked and they told me i could have gotten it from a bug bite. I should have gotten a lawyer but in our shape especially in the first months who is able mentally to fight bureaucratic systems. idiopathic = scape goat -- *From:* Dalton Garis malugss...@gmail.com *To:* lynne myers lynnemye...@yahoo.com; tmic tmic-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 20, 2011 9:55 AM *Subject:* Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine I also have idiopathic TM, which means, I suppose, that it I a pathogen of which the doctors are idiots. ** -- ** -- Laura www.photographybylauraann.com/blog www.facebook.com/PhotographyByLauraAnn (please like my biz page)
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AGreed! And my TM struck twice -- I walked away the first time after a long weekend in the hospital and the second time -- a month later -- i was knocked down. I suspect that the steroids left me open to greater attack from the unidentified underlying cause. I had a very, very mild case of TM but it persisted. Stupidly I did not go to the doctor immediately but waited for weeks and weeks. I was asked the same questions...vaccines, bug bites...this was before I was actually diagnosed with TM. I was also rather surprised that my neurologist actually asked me if it was possible that someone could be poisoning me. That was a bit freaky to be asked that. Ultimately it was concluded that mine was also idiopathic. The months prior to my coming down with it I suffered a long bout of Bronchitis, followed by a miscarriage which was followed by a tooth problem that I ended up getting a root canal on. Who knows if any of that contributed to it. Anyway, as far as a shingles vaccine? I personally would not get one. I never get the flu shot either or the pneumonia. No thanks. That being said, I would really, really hate to come down with Shingles. Yikes! On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 11:21 PM, Akua mailto:a...@artfarm.coma...@artfarm.com wrote: after they asked me about the flu shot, they asked me about bug bites. I did a lot of tromping around, gathering weeds for papermaking and gardening before TM struck, A Lyme sufferer told me theat most Lyme goes undiagnosed and unrecognized and suggested that my idiopathic TM might be Lyme's. Akua --
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Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccineI had open heart surgery three years ago and have had a flu shot every year since with no problems. I have also had shingles this last year and I would take the vaccine in a second to avoid getting them again! TM attacked me over 13 years ago, it isn’t attacking me now. The damage is done and I hated having shingles, they really hurt on the area of my body I could feel and felt really nasty on the area of my body I can’t feel. Just my 2 cents worth! From: Akua Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:39 PM To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine AGreed! And my TM struck twice -- I walked away the first time after a long weekend in the hospital and the second time -- a month later -- i was knocked down. I suspect that the steroids left me open to greater attack from the unidentified underlying cause. I had a very, very mild case of TM but it persisted. Stupidly I did not go to the doctor immediately but waited for weeks and weeks. I was asked the same questions...vaccines, bug bites...this was before I was actually diagnosed with TM. I was also rather surprised that my neurologist actually asked me if it was possible that someone could be poisoning me. That was a bit freaky to be asked that. Ultimately it was concluded that mine was also idiopathic. The months prior to my coming down with it I suffered a long bout of Bronchitis, followed by a miscarriage which was followed by a tooth problem that I ended up getting a root canal on. Who knows if any of that contributed to it. Anyway, as far as a shingles vaccine? I personally would not get one. I never get the flu shot either or the pneumonia. No thanks. That being said, I would really, really hate to come down with Shingles. Yikes! On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 11:21 PM, Akua a...@artfarm.com wrote: after they asked me about the flu shot, they asked me about bug bites. I did a lot of tromping around, gathering weeds for papermaking and gardening before TM struck, A Lyme sufferer told me theat most Lyme goes undiagnosed and unrecognized and suggested that my idiopathic TM might be Lyme's. Akua --
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I have a weak mind, I hope all this information doesnt cause me to have shingles!! From: PAMELA S subers...@msn.com To: pjv1...@chartermi.net; TMC Group tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:37 AM Subject: RE: [TMIC] shingles vaccine You know...I'm not going to get this shot. But, shingles is what led to my mothers cardiomyapathy and congestive heart failure. Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:35:34 -0400 From: pjv1...@chartermi.net To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] shingles vaccine Our local newspaper has a medical column in the Sunday edition by Dr. Anthony Komaroff. www.ask doctor k.com Sunday had a column titled shingles vaccine is a good idea for adults over 60. A healthy 65 year old woman asked - what is shingles and should I get the shingles vaccine. The doctor explained shingles and the vaccine. Here is a portion of the article. Getting the vaccine does not gurantee that you will noy get shingles. But it does reduce your chances by 50 percent or more. And it does an even better job of reducing your risk of postherpetic neuralgia. I've had patients worry that the vaccine itself could give them shingles. That's because the shingles vaccine is made with a weakened - not dead - form of the virus. And a tiny percentage of people do get either a shingles or chicken pox - like rash within a month or so of getting the vaccine. You may wonder if the risks associated with the shingles vaccine, though minimal, outweigh its benefits. And if we were only talking about shingles, you might be right. It's not pleasant, but most people get through shingles just fine. Postherpetic neuralgia is another story. It can last for months, even years, and be debilitating. The shingles vaccine can cut the risk of that happening by two thirds. And I'd say that tips the balance in favor getting the vaccine. I've voted with my feet. I got the vaccine, because I've seen too many of my patients suffer from postherpetic neuralgia. Chronic pain can disrupt a person's life (end of article) Jim, I think this is a question for a neurologist. Unfortunately, I haven't seen mine in three years so I cannot ask for you. I think it would be good of all our Tmers who are seeing a neuro to call and ask if the neuro votes yes or no for the vaccine and post the results for us. - Regarding the flu shot: I did not have a flu shot proir to my TM that was later lableled idiopathic - undetermined cause. I was also asked dozens of times during my hospitalization and rehab if I had had the flu shot thus determining that all medical personal thought the shot causes TM. Not so. Medical personnel asked if we had had the flu shot because they know the flu shot can cause various reactions and it is one of the many questions they ask a patient. The neuro who diagnosed me with TM asked if I had the flu shot during his first observation of me. I saw him for five years post TM and learned that he, his wife, and children received the flu shot annually. I asked my PCP in September why he didn't ask me if I wanted a flu shot. He said, Do you? I questioned if he takes one and he said he did not because he is not prone to getting the flu and he will not push them on his patients. That was the best answer I've received yet. I am not getting the flu shot. --- Patti - Michigan
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I have gotten shingles three times in the last few years, and to say the least it is miserable. But on the recommendation of many doctors over the years I do not get any vaccines. My TM was also idiopathic and the reason I was given was because they do not know what caused my TM I should not take any risks that could cause my immune system to go into overdrive again. Lynne --- On Thu, 10/20/11, john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com wrote: From: john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine To: PAMELA S subers...@msn.com, pjv1...@chartermi.net pjv1...@chartermi.net, TMC Group tmic-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, October 20, 2011, 6:14 AM I have a weak mind, I hope all this information doesnt cause me to have shingles!! From: PAMELA S subers...@msn.com To: pjv1...@chartermi.net; TMC Group tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:37 AM Subject: RE: [TMIC] shingles vaccine You know...I'm not going to get this shot. But, shingles is what led to my mothers cardiomyapathy and congestive heart failure. Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:35:34 -0400 From: pjv1...@chartermi.net To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] shingles vaccine Our local newspaper has a medical column in the Sunday edition by Dr. Anthony Komaroff. www.ask doctor k.com Sunday had a column titled shingles vaccine is a good idea for adults over 60. A healthy 65 year old woman asked - what is shingles and should I get the shingles vaccine. The doctor explained shingles and the vaccine. Here is a portion of the article. Getting the vaccine does not gurantee that you will noy get shingles. But it does reduce your chances by 50 percent or more. And it does an even better job of reducing your risk of postherpetic neuralgia. I've had patients worry that the vaccine itself could give them shingles. That's because the shingles vaccine is made with a weakened - not dead - form of the virus. And a tiny percentage of people do get either a shingles or chicken pox - like rash within a month or so of getting the vaccine. You may wonder if the risks associated with the shingles vaccine, though minimal, outweigh its benefits. And if we were only talking about shingles, you might be right. It's not pleasant, but most people get through shingles just fine. Postherpetic neuralgia is another story. It can last for months, even years, and be debilitating. The shingles vaccine can cut the risk of that happening by two thirds. And I'd say that tips the balance in favor getting the vaccine. I've voted with my feet. I got the vaccine, because I've seen too many of my patients suffer from postherpetic neuralgia. Chronic pain can disrupt a person's life (end of article) Jim,I think this is a question for a neurologist. Unfortunately, I haven't seen mine in three years so I cannot ask for you. I think it would be good of all our Tmers who are seeing a neuro to call and ask if the neuro votes yes or no for the vaccine and post the results for us. - Regarding the flu shot: I did not have a flu shot proir to my TM that was later lableled idiopathic - undetermined cause. I was also asked dozens of times during my hospitalization and rehab if I had had the flu shot thus determining that all medical personal thought the shot causes TM. Not so. Medical personnel asked if we had had the flu shot because they know the flu shot can cause various reactions and it is one of the many questions they ask a patient. The neuro who diagnosed me with TM asked if I had the flu shot during his first observation of me. I saw him for five years post TM and learned that he, his wife, and children received the flu shot annually. I asked my PCP in September why he didn't ask me if I wanted a flu shot. He said, Do you? I questioned if he takes one and he said he did not because he is not prone to getting the flu and he will not push them on his patients. That was the best answer I've received yet. I am not getting the flu shot. ---Patti - Michigan
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I also have idiopathic TM, which means, I suppose, that it I a pathogen of which the doctors are idiots. From: lynne myers lynnemye...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 06:01:24 -0700 (PDT) To: tmic tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine Resent-From: tmic-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 06:03:41 -0700 I have gotten shingles three times in the last few years, and to say the least it is miserable. But on the recommendation of many doctors over the years I do not get any vaccines. My TM was also idiopathic and the reason I was given was because they do not know what caused my TM I should not take any risks that could cause my immune system to go into overdrive again. Lynne --- On Thu, 10/20/11, john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com wrote: From: john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine To: PAMELA S subers...@msn.com, pjv1...@chartermi.net pjv1...@chartermi.net, TMC Group tmic-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, October 20, 2011, 6:14 AM I have a weak mind, I hope all this information doesnt cause me to have shingles!! From: PAMELA S subers...@msn.com To: pjv1...@chartermi.net; TMC Group tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:37 AM Subject: RE: [TMIC] shingles vaccine You know...I'm not going to get this shot. But, shingles is what led to my mothers cardiomyapathy and congestive heart failure. Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:35:34 -0400 From: pjv1...@chartermi.net To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] shingles vaccine Our local newspaper has a medical column in the Sunday edition by Dr. Anthony Komaroff. www.ask doctor k.com http://k.com Sunday had a column titled shingles vaccine is a good idea for adults over 60. A healthy 65 year old woman asked - what is shingles and should I get the shingles vaccine. The doctor explained shingles and the vaccine. Here is a portion of the article. Getting the vaccine does not gurantee that you will noy get shingles. But it does reduce your chances by 50 percent or more. And it does an even better job of reducing your risk of postherpetic neuralgia. I've had patients worry that the vaccine itself could give them shingles. That's because the shingles vaccine is made with a weakened - not dead - form of the virus. And a tiny percentage of people do get either a shingles or chicken pox - like rash within a month or so of getting the vaccine. You may wonder if the risks associated with the shingles vaccine, though minimal, outweigh its benefits. And if we were only talking about shingles, you might be right. It's not pleasant, but most people get through shingles just fine. Postherpetic neuralgia is another story. It can last for months, even years, and be debilitating. The shingles vaccine can cut the risk of that happening by two thirds. And I'd say that tips the balance in favor getting the vaccine. I've voted with my feet. I got the vaccine, because I've seen too many of my patients suffer from postherpetic neuralgia. Chronic pain can disrupt a person's life (end of article) Jim, I think this is a question for a neurologist. Unfortunately, I haven't seen mine in three years so I cannot ask for you. I think it would be good of all our Tmers who are seeing a neuro to call and ask if the neuro votes yes or no for the vaccine and post the results for us. - Regarding the flu shot: I did not have a flu shot proir to my TM that was later lableled idiopathic - undetermined cause. I was also asked dozens of times during my hospitalization and rehab if I had had the flu shot thus determining that all medical personal thought the shot causes TM. Not so. Medical personnel asked if we had had the flu shot because they know the flu shot can cause various reactions and it is one of the many questions they ask a patient. The neuro who diagnosed me with TM asked if I had the flu shot during his first observation of me. I saw him for five years post TM and learned that he, his wife, and children received the flu shot annually. I asked my PCP in September why he didn't ask me if I wanted a flu shot. He said, Do you? I questioned if he takes one and he said he did not because he is not prone to getting the flu and he will not push them on his patients. That was the best answer I've received yet. I am not getting the flu shot. --- Patti - Michigan
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what got my goat is that if i had filled out an accident report after being in the cab of the truck with the sick guy comp would have covered me during that first month and beyond but who ever thinks of these things! Wells Fargo took care of the compensation where I worked and they told me i could have gotten it from a bug bite. I should have gotten a lawyer but in our shape especially in the first months who is able mentally to fight bureaucratic systems. idiopathic = scape goat From: Dalton Garis malugss...@gmail.com To: lynne myers lynnemye...@yahoo.com; tmic tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine I also have idiopathic TM, which means, I suppose, that it I a pathogen of which the doctors are idiots. From: lynne myers lynnemye...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 06:01:24 -0700 (PDT) To: tmic tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine Resent-From: tmic-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 06:03:41 -0700 I have gotten shingles three times in the last few years, and to say the least it is miserable. But on the recommendation of many doctors over the years I do not get any vaccines. My TM was also idiopathic and the reason I was given was because they do not know what caused my TM I should not take any risks that could cause my immune system to go into overdrive again. Lynne --- On Thu, 10/20/11, john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com wrote: From: john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine To: PAMELA S subers...@msn.com, pjv1...@chartermi.net pjv1...@chartermi.net, TMC Group tmic-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, October 20, 2011, 6:14 AM I have a weak mind, I hope all this information doesnt cause me to have shingles!! From: PAMELA S subers...@msn.com To: pjv1...@chartermi.net; TMC Group tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:37 AM Subject: RE: [TMIC] shingles vaccine You know...I'm not going to get this shot. But, shingles is what led to my mothers cardiomyapathy and congestive heart failure. Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:35:34 -0400 From: pjv1...@chartermi.net To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] shingles vaccine Our local newspaper has a medical column in the Sunday edition by Dr. Anthony Komaroff. www.ask doctor k.com Sunday had a column titled shingles vaccine is a good idea for adults over 60. A healthy 65 year old woman asked - what is shingles and should I get the shingles vaccine. The doctor explained shingles and the vaccine. Here is a portion of the article. Getting the vaccine does not gurantee that you will noy get shingles. But it does reduce your chances by 50 percent or more. And it does an even better job of reducing your risk of postherpetic neuralgia. I've had patients worry that the vaccine itself could give them shingles. That's because the shingles vaccine is made with a weakened - not dead - form of the virus. And a tiny percentage of people do get either a shingles or chicken pox - like rash within a month or so of getting the vaccine. You may wonder if the risks associated with the shingles vaccine, though minimal, outweigh its benefits. And if we were only talking about shingles, you might be right. It's not pleasant, but most people get through shingles just fine. Postherpetic neuralgia is another story. It can last for months, even years, and be debilitating. The shingles vaccine can cut the risk of that happening by two thirds. And I'd say that tips the balance in favor getting the vaccine. I've voted with my feet. I got the vaccine, because I've seen too many of my patients suffer from postherpetic neuralgia. Chronic pain can disrupt a person's life (end of article) Jim, I think this is a question for a neurologist. Unfortunately, I haven't seen mine in three years so I cannot ask for you. I think it would be good of all our Tmers who are seeing a neuro to call and ask if the neuro votes yes or no for the vaccine and post the results for us. - Regarding the flu shot: I did not have a flu shot proir to my TM that was later lableled idiopathic - undetermined cause. I was also asked dozens of times during my hospitalization and rehab if I had had the flu shot thus determining that all medical personal thought the shot causes TM. Not so. Medical personnel asked if we had had the flu shot because they know the flu shot can cause various reactions and it is one of the many questions they ask a patient. The neuro who diagnosed me with TM asked if I had the flu shot during his first observation of me. I saw him for five years post TM and learned that he, his wife, and children received the flu shot annually. I asked my PCP in September why he didn't ask me if I wanted a flu shot. He said, Do you? I questioned if he takes one and he said he
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You answered a question I hadn't asked. I wondered if anyone had gotten shingles since TM. How nasty to have two causes of pain at the same time. (I had a bee sting this summer that caused major pain for about 5 days. I laughed that it took my mind off my TM pain for a while.) Patti - Michigan On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 9:01 AM, lynne myers wrote: I have gotten shingles three times in the last few years, and to say the least it is miserable. But on the recommendation of many doctors over the years I do not get any vaccines. My TM was also idiopathic and the reason I was given was because they do not know what caused my TM I should not take any risks that could cause my immune system to go into overdrive again. Lynne --- On Thu, 10/20/11, john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com wrote: From: john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine To: PAMELA S subers...@msn.com, pjv1...@chartermi.net pjv1...@chartermi.net, TMC Group tmic-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, October 20, 2011, 6:14 AM I have a weak mind, I hope all this information doesnt cause me to have shingles !! ;) winking ___ From: PAMELA S subers...@msn.com To: pjv1...@chartermi.net; TMC Group tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:37 AM Subject: RE: [TMIC] shingles vaccine You know...I'm not going to get this shot. But, shingles is what led to my mothers cardiomyapathy and congestive heart failure. ___ Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:35:34 -0400 From: pjv1...@chartermi.net To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] shingles vaccine Our local newspaper has a medical column in the Sunday edition by Dr. Anthony Komaroff. www.ask doctor k.com http://k.com Sunday had a column titled shingles vaccine is a good idea for adults over 60. A healthy 65 year old woman asked - what is shingles and should I get the shingles vaccine. The doctor explained shingles and the vaccine. Here is a portion of the article. Getting the vaccine does not gurantee that you will noy get shingles. But it does reduce your chances by 50 percent or more. And it does an even better job of reducing your risk of postherpetic neuralgia. I've had patients worry that the vaccine itself could give them shingles. That's because the shingles vaccine is made with a weakened - not dead - form of the virus. And a tiny percentage of people do get either a shingles or chicken pox - like rash within a month or so of getting the vaccine. You may wonder if the risks associated with the shingles vaccine, though minimal, outweigh its benefits. And if we were only talking about shingles, you might be right. It's not pleasant, but most people get through shingles just fine. Postherpetic neuralgia is another story. It can last for months, even years, and be debilitating. The shingles vaccine can cut the risk of that happening by two thirds. And I'd say that tips the balance in favor getting the vaccine. I've voted with my feet. I got the vaccine, because I've seen too many of my patients suffer from postherpetic neuralgia. Chronic pain can disrupt a person's life (end of article) Jim, I think this is a question for a neurologist. Unfortunately, I haven't seen mine in three years so I cannot ask for you. I think it would be good of all our Tmers who are seeing a neuro to call and ask if the neuro votes yes or no for the vaccine and post the results for us. - Regarding the flu shot: I did not have a flu shot proir to my TM that was later lableled idiopathic - undetermined cause. I was also asked dozens of times during my hospitalization and rehab if I had had the flu shot thus determining that all medical personal thought the shot causes TM. Not so. Medical personnel asked if we had had the flu shot because they know the flu shot can cause various reactions and it is one of the many questions they ask a patient. The neuro who diagnosed me with TM asked if I had the flu shot during his first observation of me. I saw him for five years post TM and learned that he, his wife, and children received the flu shot annually. I asked my PCP in September why he didn't ask me if I wanted a flu shot. He said, Do you? I questioned if he takes one and he said he did not because he is not prone to getting the flu and he will not push them on his patients. That was the best answer I've received yet. I am not getting the flu shot. --- Patti - Michigan
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You are not the only one with a weak mind. - Roger in Kennewick, WA - Original Message - From: john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com To: PAMELA S subers...@msn.com, pjv1...@chartermi.net, TMC Group tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 3:14:38 AM Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine I have a weak mind, I hope all this information doesnt cause me to have shingles !! ;) winking From: PAMELA S subers...@msn.com To: pjv1...@chartermi.net; TMC Group tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:37 AM Subject: RE: [TMIC] shingles vaccine You know...I'm not going to get this shot. But, shingles is what led to my mothers cardiomyapathy and congestive heart failure. Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:35:34 -0400 From: pjv1...@chartermi.net To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] shingles vaccine Our local newspaper has a medical column in the Sunday edition by Dr. Anthony Komaroff. www.ask doctor k.com Sunday had a column titled shingles vaccine is a good idea for adults over 60. A healthy 65 year old woman asked - what is shingles and should I get the shingles vaccine. The doctor explained shingles and the vaccine. Here is a portion of the article. Getting the vaccine does not gurantee that you will noy get shingles. But it does reduce your chances by 50 percent or more. And it does an even better job of reducing your risk of postherpetic neuralgia. I've had patients worry that the vaccine itself could give them shingles. That's because the shingles vaccine is made with a weakened - not dead - form of the virus. And a tiny percentage of people do get either a shingles or chicken pox - like rash within a month or so of getting the vaccine. You may wonder if the risks associated with the shingles vaccine, though minimal, outweigh its benefits. And if we were only talking about shingles, you might be right. It's not pleasant, but most people get through shingles just fine. Postherpetic neuralgia is another story. It can last for months, even years, and be debilitating. The shingles vaccine can cut the risk of that happening by two thirds. And I'd say that tips the balance in favor getting the vaccine. I've voted with my feet. I got the vaccine, because I've seen too many of my patients suffer from postherpetic neuralgia. Chronic pain can disrupt a person's life (end of article) Jim, I think this is a question for a neurologist. Unfortunately, I haven't seen mine in three years so I cannot ask for you. I think it would be good of all our Tmers who are seeing a neuro to call and ask if the neuro votes yes or no for the vaccine and post the results for us. - Regarding the flu shot: I did not have a flu shot proir to my TM that was later lableled idiopathic - undetermined cause. I was also asked dozens of times during my hospitalization and rehab if I had had the flu shot thus determining that all medical personal thought the shot causes TM. Not so. Medical personnel asked if we had had the flu shot because they know the flu shot can cause various reactions and it is one of the many questions they ask a patient. The neuro who diagnosed me with TM asked if I had the flu shot during his first observation of me. I saw him for five years post TM and learned that he, his wife, and children received the flu shot annually. I asked my PCP in September why he didn't ask me if I wanted a flu shot. He said, Do you? I questioned if he takes one and he said he did not because he is not prone to getting the flu and he will not push them on his patients. That was the best answer I've received yet. I am not getting the flu shot. --- Patti - Michigan
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Lynn and Dalton and john and all; My doctor in Michigan told me no immunizations. Here on the west coast, they say, there's no evidence to prove they cause problems. I took the shots 2 years ago...all of them they told me to. And, I've paid. I got sick again. Who knows if there's a connection. I don't want to take it again, but I don't want the flu either. I've seen so many people who had sores that looked like shingles, and burned like shingles, but since the viral swab didn't show shingles, the doctor told them there was no evidence of shinglesI'm not sold on much of anything anymore I guess. Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 06:01:24 -0700 From: lynnemye...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine To: tmic-list@eskimo.com I have gotten shingles three times in the last few years, and to say the least it is miserable. But on the recommendation of many doctors over the years I do not get any vaccines. My TM was also idiopathic and the reason I was given was because they do not know what caused my TM I should not take any risks that could cause my immune system to go into overdrive again. Lynne --- On Thu, 10/20/11, john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com wrote: From: john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine To: PAMELA S subers...@msn.com, pjv1...@chartermi.net pjv1...@chartermi.net, TMC Group tmic-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, October 20, 2011, 6:14 AM I have a weak mind, I hope all this information doesnt cause me to have shingles!! From: PAMELA S subers...@msn.com To: pjv1...@chartermi.net; TMC Group tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:37 AM Subject: RE: [TMIC] shingles vaccine You know...I'm not going to get this shot. But, shingles is what led to my mothers cardiomyapathy and congestive heart failure. Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:35:34 -0400 From: pjv1...@chartermi.net To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] shingles vaccine Our local newspaper has a medical column in the Sunday edition by Dr. Anthony Komaroff. www.ask doctor k.com Sunday had a column titled shingles vaccine is a good idea for adults over 60. A healthy 65 year old woman asked - what is shingles and should I get the shingles vaccine. The doctor explained shingles and the vaccine. Here is a portion of the article. Getting the vaccine does not gurantee that you will noy get shingles. But it does reduce your chances by 50 percent or more. And it does an even better job of reducing your risk of postherpetic neuralgia. I've had patients worry that the vaccine itself could give them shingles. That's because the shingles vaccine is made with a weakened - not dead - form of the virus. And a tiny percentage of people do get either a shingles or chicken pox - like rash within a month or so of getting the vaccine. You may wonder if the risks associated with the shingles vaccine, though minimal, outweigh its benefits. And if we were only talking about shingles, you might be right. It's not pleasant, but most people get through shingles just fine. Postherpetic neuralgia is another story. It can last for months, even years, and be debilitating. The shingles vaccine can cut the risk of that happening by two thirds. And I'd say that tips the balance in favor getting the vaccine. I've voted with my feet. I got the vaccine, because I've seen too many of my patients suffer from postherpetic neuralgia. Chronic pain can disrupt a person's life (end of article) Jim,I think this is a question for a neurologist. Unfortunately, I haven't seen mine in three years so I cannot ask for you. I think it would be good of all our Tmers who are seeing a neuro to call and ask if the neuro votes yes or no for the vaccine and post the results for us. - Regarding the flu shot: I did not have a flu shot proir to my TM that was later lableled idiopathic - undetermined cause. I was also asked dozens of times during my hospitalization and rehab if I had had the flu shot thus determining that all medical personal thought the shot causes TM. Not so. Medical personnel asked if we had had the flu shot because they know the flu shot can cause various reactions and it is one of the many questions they ask a patient. The neuro who diagnosed me with TM asked if I had the flu shot during his first observation of me. I saw him for five years post TM and learned that he, his wife, and children received the flu shot annually. I asked my PCP in September why he didn't ask me if I wanted a flu shot. He said, Do you? I questioned if he takes one and he said he did not because he is not prone to getting the flu and he will not push them on his patients. That was the best answer I've received yet. I am not getting the flu shot. ---Patti - Michigan
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Patti in Michigan - I agree with you. My neuro (I am on my second because I moved) and they both recommend that I NOT get any shots - even for singles. I will take my changes. Patti in Wisconsin On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 9:35 AM, pjv1...@chartermi.net wrote: Our local newspaper has a medical column in the Sunday edition by Dr. Anthony Komaroff. www.ask doctor k.com Sunday had a column titled shingles vaccine is a good idea for adults over 60. A healthy 65 year old woman asked - what is shingles and should I get the shingles vaccine. The doctor explained shingles and the vaccine. Here is a portion of the article. Getting the vaccine does not gurantee that you will noy get shingles. But it does reduce your chances by 50 percent or more. And it does an even better job of reducing your risk of postherpetic neuralgia. I've had patients worry that the vaccine itself could give them shingles. That's because the shingles vaccine is made with a weakened - not dead - form of the virus. And a tiny percentage of people do get either a shingles or chicken pox - like rash within a month or so of getting the vaccine. You may wonder if the risks associated with the shingles vaccine, though minimal, outweigh its benefits. And if we were only talking about shingles, you might be right. It's not pleasant, but most people get through shingles just fine. Postherpetic neuralgia is another story. It can last for months, even years, and be debilitating. The shingles vaccine can cut the risk of that happening by two thirds. And I'd say that tips the balance in favor getting the vaccine. I've voted with my feet. I got the vaccine, because I've seen too many of my patients suffer from postherpetic neuralgia. Chronic pain can disrupt a person's life (end of article) Jim, I think this is a question for a neurologist. Unfortunately, I haven't seen mine in three years so I cannot ask for you. I think it would be good of all our Tmers who are seeing a neuro to call and ask if the neuro votes yes or no for the vaccine and post the results for us. - Regarding the flu shot: I did not have a flu shot proir to my TM that was later lableled idiopathic - undetermined cause. I was also asked dozens of times during my hospitalization and rehab if I had had the flu shot thus determining that all medical personal thought the shot causes TM. Not so. Medical personnel asked if we had had the flu shot because they know the flu shot can cause various reactions and it is one of the many questions they ask a patient. The neuro who diagnosed me with TM asked if I had the flu shot during his first observation of me. I saw him for five years post TM and learned that he, his wife, and children received the flu shot annually. I asked my PCP in September why he didn't ask me if I wanted a flu shot. He said, Do you? I questioned if he takes one and he said he did not because he is not prone to getting the flu and he will not push them on his patients. That was the best answer I've received yet. I am not getting the flu shot. --- Patti - Michigan
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it is an odd thought,,i never did get a flu shot intill after TM. just never did fool with it. my family Dr told me since my immune system was comprimised that perhaps i should so i did. took flu,pneumonia,and some other shot as well. wont be taking one this year. cant afford it.hope i dont get flu! From: pat cooley patticoole...@gmail.com To: pjv1...@chartermi.net Cc: tmic tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine Patti in Michigan - I agree with you. My neuro (I am on my second because I moved) and they both recommend that I NOT get any shots - even for singles. I will take my changes. Patti in Wisconsin On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 9:35 AM, pjv1...@chartermi.net wrote: Our local newspaper has a medical column in the Sunday edition by Dr. Anthony Komaroff. www.ask doctor k.com Sunday had a column titled shingles vaccine is a good idea for adults over 60. A healthy 65 year old woman asked - what is shingles and should I get the shingles vaccine. The doctor explained shingles and the vaccine. Here is a portion of the article. Getting the vaccine does not gurantee that you will noy get shingles. But it does reduce your chances by 50 percent or more. And it does an even better job of reducing your risk of postherpetic neuralgia. I've had patients worry that the vaccine itself could give them shingles. That's because the shingles vaccine is made with a weakened - not dead - form of the virus. And a tiny percentage of people do get either a shingles or chicken pox - like rash within a month or so of getting the vaccine. You may wonder if the risks associated with the shingles vaccine, though minimal, outweigh its benefits. And if we were only talking about shingles, you might be right. It's not pleasant, but most people get through shingles just fine. Postherpetic neuralgia is another story. It can last for months, even years, and be debilitating. The shingles vaccine can cut the risk of that happening by two thirds. And I'd say that tips the balance in favor getting the vaccine. I've voted with my feet. I got the vaccine, because I've seen too many of my patients suffer from postherpetic neuralgia. Chronic pain can disrupt a person's life (end of article) Jim, I think this is a question for a neurologist. Unfortunately, I haven't seen mine in three years so I cannot ask for you. I think it would be good of all our Tmers who are seeing a neuro to call and ask if the neuro votes yes or no for the vaccine and post the results for us. - Regarding the flu shot: I did not have a flu shot proir to my TM that was later lableled idiopathic - undetermined cause. I was also asked dozens of times during my hospitalization and rehab if I had had the flu shot thus determining that all medical personal thought the shot causes TM. Not so. Medical personnel asked if we had had the flu shot because they know the flu shot can cause various reactions and it is one of the many questions they ask a patient. The neuro who diagnosed me with TM asked if I had the flu shot during his first observation of me. I saw him for five years post TM and learned that he, his wife, and children received the flu shot annually. I asked my PCP in September why he didn't ask me if I wanted a flu shot. He said, Do you? I questioned if he takes one and he said he did not because he is not prone to getting the flu and he will not push them on his patients. That was the best answer I've received yet. I am not getting the flu shot. --- Patti - Michigan
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You know...I'm not going to get this shot. But, shingles is what led to my mothers cardiomyapathy and congestive heart failure. Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:35:34 -0400 From: pjv1...@chartermi.net To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] shingles vaccine Our local newspaper has a medical column in the Sunday edition by Dr. Anthony Komaroff. www.ask doctor k.com Sunday had a column titled shingles vaccine is a good idea for adults over 60. A healthy 65 year old woman asked - what is shingles and should I get the shingles vaccine. The doctor explained shingles and the vaccine. Here is a portion of the article. Getting the vaccine does not gurantee that you will noy get shingles. But it does reduce your chances by 50 percent or more. And it does an even better job of reducing your risk of postherpetic neuralgia. I've had patients worry that the vaccine itself could give them shingles. That's because the shingles vaccine is made with a weakened - not dead - form of the virus. And a tiny percentage of people do get either a shingles or chicken pox - like rash within a month or so of getting the vaccine. You may wonder if the risks associated with the shingles vaccine, though minimal, outweigh its benefits. And if we were only talking about shingles, you might be right. It's not pleasant, but most people get through shingles just fine. Postherpetic neuralgia is another story. It can last for months, even years, and be debilitating. The shingles vaccine can cut the risk of that happening by two thirds. And I'd say that tips the balance in favor getting the vaccine. I've voted with my feet. I got the vaccine, because I've seen too many of my patients suffer from postherpetic neuralgia. Chronic pain can disrupt a person's life (end of article) Jim,I think this is a question for a neurologist. Unfortunately, I haven't seen mine in three years so I cannot ask for you. I think it would be good of all our Tmers who are seeing a neuro to call and ask if the neuro votes yes or no for the vaccine and post the results for us. - Regarding the flu shot: I did not have a flu shot proir to my TM that was later lableled idiopathic - undetermined cause. I was also asked dozens of times during my hospitalization and rehab if I had had the flu shot thus determining that all medical personal thought the shot causes TM. Not so. Medical personnel asked if we had had the flu shot because they know the flu shot can cause various reactions and it is one of the many questions they ask a patient. The neuro who diagnosed me with TM asked if I had the flu shot during his first observation of me. I saw him for five years post TM and learned that he, his wife, and children received the flu shot annually. I asked my PCP in September why he didn't ask me if I wanted a flu shot. He said, Do you? I questioned if he takes one and he said he did not because he is not prone to getting the flu and he will not push them on his patients. That was the best answer I've received yet. I am not getting the flu shot. ---Patti - Michigan
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My physicians have told me since the begining of my TM not to get any vaccines. They are all afraid it will put my immune system into over drive again and cause a flare up or possible recurrance. So none for me, even though I have had shingles twice since getting TM and they are definately not fun. Lynne --- On Thu, 11/11/10, Carol E snow121...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Carol E snow121...@hotmail.com Subject: [TMIC] Shingles Vaccine To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 6:29 PM What every ones opinion on getting the vaccine for shingles? I'm 60 and last week for my annual physical, my doctor recommended that I get the shingles vaccine. I didn't get, because I wanted to ask the TM group and the medical people on the list. Carol in Addison, IL
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My Internal Medicine doc wants me to get every vaccine made. I really don't think she takes into consideration the affects that it might have on patients with TM. I will call my neurologist to get her recommendation and then make up my mind. Carol Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its troubles; It empties today of its strengths. Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 05:37:15 -0800 From: lynnemye...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Shingles Vaccine To: tmic-list@eskimo.com My physicians have told me since the begining of my TM not to get any vaccines. They are all afraid it will put my immune system into over drive again and cause a flare up or possible recurrance. So none for me, even though I have had shingles twice since getting TM and they are definately not fun. Lynne --- On Thu, 11/11/10, Carol E snow121...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Carol E snow121...@hotmail.com Subject: [TMIC] Shingles Vaccine To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 6:29 PM What every ones opinion on getting the vaccine for shingles? I'm 60 and last week for my annual physical, my doctor recommended that I get the shingles vaccine. I didn't get, because I wanted to ask the TM group and the medical people on the list. Carol in Addison, IL
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I sure agee with that. Wished I had asked the neurologist when I went to Mayo Clinic in Sept. I made a list of things to ask, but I just didn't think of very thing. Carol Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its troubles; It empties today of its strengths. From: snow121...@hotmail.com To: lynnemye...@yahoo.com; tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [TMIC] Shingles Vaccine Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 07:47:39 -0600 My Internal Medicine doc wants me to get every vaccine made. I really don't think she takes into consideration the affects that it might have on patients with TM. I will call my neurologist to get her recommendation and then make up my mind. Carol Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its troubles; It empties today of its strengths. Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 05:37:15 -0800 From: lynnemye...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Shingles Vaccine To: tmic-list@eskimo.com My physicians have told me since the begining of my TM not to get any vaccines. They are all afraid it will put my immune system into over drive again and cause a flare up or possible recurrance. So none for me, even though I have had shingles twice since getting TM and they are definately not fun. Lynne --- On Thu, 11/11/10, Carol E snow121...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Carol E snow121...@hotmail.com Subject: [TMIC] Shingles Vaccine To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 6:29 PM What every ones opinion on getting the vaccine for shingles? I'm 60 and last week for my annual physical, my doctor recommended that I get the shingles vaccine. I didn't get, because I wanted to ask the TM group and the medical people on the list. Carol in Addison, IL
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Hi to all I am not a dr or a nurse. I am only operating on some common sense. 1.Vaccines are very useful in certain situations 2.Shingles are painful 3. Vaccines stimulate the immune system 4. TM is a result of many things, including the immune system going into overdrive and attacking the spinal cord (autoimmune disease) 5. Why would I want to do anything that would tempt fate and kick that immune system into overdrive and risk another attack, or another flare up 6. Homeopathic remedies work wonders on shingles (rhus tox) For those of you who remember my son and his issue - he is still in so much pain that most days he misses school, lays in bed, and generally is not having a good time of it. The diagnosis of it is organic and he will possibly grow out of it is not happening, and now, since he has not gone to a pain clinic, he cannot have any pain killers. Damn doctors. Damn system. Damn. Sorry, just had to let that out. Janet From: Carol E [mailto:snow121...@hotmail.com] Sent: November 12, 2010 8:40 AM To: lynnemye...@yahoo.com; tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [TMIC] Shingles Vaccine I sure agee with that. Wished I had asked the neurologist when I went to Mayo Clinic in Sept. I made a list of things to ask, but I just didn't think of very thing. Carol Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its troubles; It empties today of its strengths. _ From: snow121...@hotmail.com To: lynnemye...@yahoo.com; tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [TMIC] Shingles Vaccine Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 07:47:39 -0600 My Internal Medicine doc wants me to get every vaccine made. I really don't think she takes into consideration the affects that it might have on patients with TM. I will call my neurologist to get her recommendation and then make up my mind. Carol Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its troubles; It empties today of its strengths.
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organic,,, mud, hard to mix. be nice if this earthen vessel we walk around in was as easy to manipulate as it is to screw up. he could get pain killers,,,just wouldnt want to get caught! i have had people in the upper higharchy in my life try and buy mine. sad part is if i didnt need what i have so badly,,i would have probably sold them to them. moneyslim pickens. anybody wanna buy a nice tape measure? Goes all the way to 16 ft! ;) --- On Fri, 11/12/10, Janet Dunn j.d...@shaw.ca wrote: From: Janet Dunn j.d...@shaw.ca Subject: RE: [TMIC] Shingles Vaccine To: 'Carol E' snow121...@hotmail.com, lynnemye...@yahoo.com, tmic-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, November 12, 2010, 10:50 AM Hi to all I am not a dr or a nurse. I am only operating on some common sense. 1. Vaccines are very useful in certain situations 2. Shingles are painful 3. Vaccines stimulate the immune system 4. TM is a result of many things, including the immune system going into overdrive and attacking the spinal cord (autoimmune disease) 5. Why would I want to do anything that would tempt fate and kick that immune system into overdrive and risk another attack, or another flare up 6. Homeopathic remedies work wonders on shingles (rhus tox) For those of you who remember my son and his “issue” – he is still in so much pain that most days he misses school, lays in bed, and generally is not having a good time of it. The diagnosis of “it is organic and he will possibly grow out of it” is not happening, and now, since he has not gone to a pain clinic, he cannot have any pain killers. Damn doctors. Damn system. Damn. Sorry, just had to let that out. Janet From: Carol E [mailto:snow121...@hotmail.com] Sent: November 12, 2010 8:40 AM To: lynnemye...@yahoo.com; tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [TMIC] Shingles Vaccine I sure agee with that. Wished I had asked the neurologist when I went to Mayo Clinic in Sept. I made a list of things to ask, but I just didn't think of very thing. Carol Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its troubles; It empties today of its strengths. From: snow121...@hotmail.com To: lynnemye...@yahoo.com; tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [TMIC] Shingles Vaccine Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 07:47:39 -0600 My Internal Medicine doc wants me to get every vaccine made. I really don't think she takes into consideration the affects that it might have on patients with TM. I will call my neurologist to get her recommendation and then make up my mind. Carol Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its troubles; It empties today of its strengths.
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Me three. Akua New York I'm with you, Candy... I've been told as long as I don't get any live virus, it should be okay. That's not good enough for me to risk. I refuse to get any now. Betty (in Northern California) In a message dated 11/11/10 15:33:04 Pacific Standard Time, cakal...@embarqmail.com writes: Carol, Shingles is one of the viruses listed as possible causes for TM. I refuse any vaccines only because so many may cause a flair up. That's just my 2 cents. Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably . And never regret anything that made you smile. Prayers and thoughts for you and yours, Candy K. --
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i was aprehensive about getting my flu shot this year but i went ahead and got it. have seen a bunch of conspiricy theories and well,,if something is going to happen then it is out of my control anyway. im only almost 50 so i aint worried about any shingles shot anyway. us young people have it made --- On Fri, 11/12/10, Akua a...@artfarm.com wrote: From: Akua a...@artfarm.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Shingles Vaccine To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, November 12, 2010, 3:09 PM Me three. Akua New York I'm with you, Candy... I've been told as long as I don't get any live virus, it should be okay. That's not good enough for me to risk. I refuse to get any now. Betty (in Northern California) In a message dated 11/11/10 15:33:04 Pacific Standard Time, cakal...@embarqmail.com writes: Carol, Shingles is one of the viruses listed as possible causes for TM. I refuse any vaccines only because so many may cause a flair up. That's just my 2 cents. Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably . And never regret anything that made you smile. Prayers and thoughts for you and yours, Candy K. --
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Janet, My pain management doc to wonderful.People come to him from many states and he knows what he is doing. He has helped me tremendously.Can you get your son in to a pain management doc? Hope you can. Janice From: Janet Dunn Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 9:50 AM To: 'Carol E' ; lynnemye...@yahoo.com ; tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [TMIC] Shingles Vaccine Hi to all I am not a dr or a nurse. I am only operating on some common sense. 1.Vaccines are very useful in certain situations 2.Shingles are painful 3. Vaccines stimulate the immune system 4. TM is a result of many things, including the immune system going into overdrive and attacking the spinal cord (autoimmune disease) 5. Why would I want to do anything that would tempt fate and kick that immune system into overdrive and risk another attack, or another flare up 6. Homeopathic remedies work wonders on shingles (rhus tox) For those of you who remember my son and his issue - he is still in so much pain that most days he misses school, lays in bed, and generally is not having a good time of it. The diagnosis of it is organic and he will possibly grow out of it is not happening, and now, since he has not gone to a pain clinic, he cannot have any pain killers. Damn doctors. Damn system. Damn. Sorry, just had to let that out. Janet From: Carol E [mailto:snow121...@hotmail.com] Sent: November 12, 2010 8:40 AM To: lynnemye...@yahoo.com; tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [TMIC] Shingles Vaccine I sure agee with that. Wished I had asked the neurologist when I went to Mayo Clinic in Sept. I made a list of things to ask, but I just didn't think of very thing. Carol Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its troubles; It empties today of its strengths. From: snow121...@hotmail.com To: lynnemye...@yahoo.com; tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [TMIC] Shingles Vaccine Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 07:47:39 -0600 My Internal Medicine doc wants me to get every vaccine made. I really don't think she takes into consideration the affects that it might have on patients with TM. I will call my neurologist to get her recommendation and then make up my mind. Carol Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its troubles; It empties today of its strengths.
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My first MS symptoms popped up shortly after a Hep B vaccination when I was 17. I've noticed that since my first TM attack, with the exception of bladder infections, I never get sick..no colds, no flues, nada. I'll feel like I'm getting the flue...malaite, general pain, dizziness, etc and I'm fine a few hours later while everyone goes on to develop a full-blown flu. And no, I'm not vaccinated. Laura www.laurabeaudin.com --NOT just another blog! http://practical-homeschooling.org On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Akua a...@artfarm.com wrote: Me three. Akua New York I'm with you, Candy... I've been told as long as I don't get any live virus, it should be okay. That's not good enough for me to risk. I refuse to get* any* now. Betty (in Northern California) In a message dated 11/11/10 15:33:04 Pacific Standard Time, cakal...@embarqmail.com writes: Carol, Shingles is one of the viruses listed as possible causes for TM. I refuse any vaccines only because so many may cause a flair up. That's just my 2 cents. Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably . And never regret anything that made you smile. Prayers and thoughts for you and yours, Candy K. --
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Carol, Shingles is one of the viruses listed as possible causes for TM. I refuse any vaccines only because so many may cause a flair up. That's just my 2 cents. Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably . And never regret anything that made you smile. Prayers and thoughts for you and yours, Candy K. - Original Message - From: Carol E snow121...@hotmail.com To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 6:29:00 PM Subject: [TMIC] Shingles Vaccine What every ones opinion on getting the vaccine for shingles? I'm 60 and last week for my annual physical, my doctor recommended that I get the shingles vaccine. I didn't get, because I wanted to ask the TM group and the medical people on the list. Carol in Addison, IL
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I'm with you, Candy... I've been told as long as I don't get any live virus, it should be okay. That's not good enough for me to risk. I refuse to get any now. Betty (in Northern California) In a message dated 11/11/10 15:33:04 Pacific Standard Time, cakal...@embarqmail.com writes: Carol, Shingles is one of the viruses listed as possible causes for TM. I refuse any vaccines only because so many may cause a flair up. That's just my 2 cents. Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably . And never regret anything that made you smile. Prayers and thoughts for you and yours, Candy K. - Original Message - From: Carol E snow121...@hotmail.com To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 6:29:00 PM Subject: [TMIC] Shingles Vaccine What every ones opinion on getting the vaccine for shingles? I'm 60 and last week for my annual physical, my doctor recommended that I get the shingles vaccine. I didn't get, because I wanted to ask the TM group and the medical people on the list. Carol in Addison, IL
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AMEN Betty! Why risk a flare! I do carry around the hand santitizer and use it while I'm out! During a flu outbreak, I wear a mask if I have to go out! Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably . And never regret anything that made you smile. Prayers and thoughts for you and yours, Candy K. - Original Message - From: Beeclark beecl...@aol.com To: tmic-list tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 7:08:56 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Shingles Vaccine I'm with you, Candy... I've been told as long as I don't get any live virus, it should be okay. That's not good enough for me to risk. I refuse to get any now. Betty (in Northern California) In a message dated 11/11/10 15:33:04 Pacific Standard Time, cakal...@embarqmail.com writes: Carol, Shingles is one of the viruses listed as possible causes for TM. I refuse any vaccines only because so many may cause a flair up. That's just my 2 cents. Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably . And never regret anything that made you smile. Prayers and thoughts for you and yours, Candy K. - Original Message - From: Carol E snow121...@hotmail.com To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 6:29:00 PM Subject: [TMIC] Shingles Vaccine What every ones opinion on getting the vaccine for shingles? I'm 60 and last week for my annual physical, my doctor recommended that I get the shingles vaccine. I didn't get, because I wanted to ask the TM group and the medical people on the list. Carol in Addison, IL
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I am told that my case of shingles (herpes zoster) is the most likely cause of my TM. I've been advised not to have any vacinations/ On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:32 PM, CANDIS KALLEY cakal...@embarqmail.comwrote: Carol, Shingles is one of the viruses listed as possible causes for TM. I refuse any vaccines only because so many may cause a flair up. That's just my 2 cents. Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably . And never regret anything that made you smile. Prayers and thoughts for you and yours, Candy K. - Original Message - From: Carol E snow121...@hotmail.com To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 6:29:00 PM Subject: [TMIC] Shingles Vaccine What every ones opinion on getting the vaccine for shingles? I'm 60 and last week for my annual physical, my doctor recommended that I get the shingles vaccine. I didn't get, because I wanted to ask the TM group and the medical people on the list. *Carol in Addison, IL*
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Very shortly after coming home from the hospital my doc wanted me to get the shingles vaccine. He said I had enough problems. Janice From: Carol E Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 5:29 PM To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] Shingles Vaccine What every ones opinion on getting the vaccine for shingles? I'm 60 and last week for my annual physical, my doctor recommended that I get the shingles vaccine. I didn't get, because I wanted to ask the TM group and the medical people on the list. Carol in Addison, IL
