Re: [TMIC] When do you know if it is time to quit!
Hi Rob, I don't see it as complaining. I see it as asking your friends for advise. And that is what we are here for. Let us know how the MRI goes and the new Dr. Have a great day! Jenna - Original Message From: Robert Pall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2008 9:32:01 AM Subject: [TMIC] When do you know if it is time to quit! I am obviously on a letter writing campaign…this is due to what I perceive as a worsening of my condition…ok here is my question….I have been working full time for the past 10 years after contacting TM (obviously this was after the hospital and rehab)…I drive more than 2 hours a day (welcome to New York City) and for the first time I am really wondering how much longer I will be able to keep this up…it just keeps getting harder. On the one hand if I stop working I will have all the time in the world to think of my condition (bad!), on the other hand work just keeps getting harder and harder both physically and mentally(bad too!). Please don't tell me to just cut down..that cannot work…..therefore what I have done mentally is say to myself that if I can just work 2 more years then I can retire…only problem is that 2 years seems like a very very long time! I am going for a spinal MRI next week and Dr Kerr hooked me up with an excellent Dr. in New Jersey whom I will be seeing in a couple of weeks…so I am trying to be proactive…just not sure how much longer my positive attitude will be enough to get me by! Sorry about this I truly hate complaining when I know so many of you are so much worse than I am! Thanks for everything! Rob in New Jersey You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com
Re: [TMIC] When do you know if it is time to quit!
Oh, Rob, to us there is no complaining when it comes to our TM. If that were the case, we might as well back out of TMIC and crawl in a hole and be alone, again!! One of the most difficult moments of this entire TM time is when I had to walk in and give my notice having to tell my 'other family' of many years that I just could not do what I did before I was stricken. Nursing was so wonderful and the people I worked with and were truly my friends plus I was a lead nurse boss and by golly, I liked that!! I was sad to be giving up all of the patients that I had gotten to know so well over the years, also. The clinic would have let me continue working but my ability and stamina were not even half of what they were before. There was just too much pain and by noon I could hardly motivate. Plus I then had an hour drive back home which was stressful even with hand controls (that I didn't use) (another story).. So, Jack and I talked it over and me, being spoiled rotten (at work and) at home finally decided I had to quit. I was able to get onto disability quite fast and have not regretted it one moment. I miss my people from the bottom of my heart but I just couldn't keep on. Jack then took early retirement and we have had the most wonderful time together. THE BEST PART NO ALARM CLOCK!! We are so busy and able to help the kids and grandkids more plus get back into volunteering in our little town, again. When the weather is halfway nice, we are outside. (I have a picture of me on the tractor if you want to see it!) Anyway, just my two cents worth. Seriously, it's a very personal decision. That's where the prayer comes in Jeanne ---Original Message--- From: Robert Pall Date: 4/3/2008 8:32:19 AM To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] When do you know if it is time to quit! I am obviously on a letter writing campaign this is due to what I perceive as a worsening of my condition ok here is my question .I have been working full time for the past 10 years after contacting TM (obviously this was after the hospital and rehab) I drive more than 2 hours a day (welcome to New York City) and for the first time I am really wondering how much longer I will be able to keep this up it just keeps getting harder. On the one hand if I stop working I will have all the time in the world to think of my condition (bad!), on the other hand work just keeps getting harder and harder both physically and mentally(bad too!). Please don't tell me to just cut down..that cannot work ..therefore what I have done mentally is say to myself that if I can just work 2 more years then I can retire only problem is that 2 years seems like a very very long time! I am going for a spinal MRI next week and Dr Kerr hooked me up with an excellent Dr. in New Jersey whom I will be seeing in a couple of weeks so I am trying to be proactive just not sure how much longer my positive attitude will be enough to get me by! Sorry about this I truly hate complaining when I know so many of you are so much worse than I am! Thanks for everything! Rob in New Jersey
RE: [TMIC] When do you know if it is time to quit!
If you would see me walk, you would KNOW that I had either been tipping the bottle or was certainly disabled! I was just too darned stubborn to use the hand control and how, I don't know, but my right foot (the weakest one) just took care of me!!! We live around a lot of deer and that old foot came to the rescue many times...amazing! J When I walked into the DMV to get my driver's license renewed, there was no doubt there had been 'changes' since I had last had it done. I had to take a driver's test and even with the hand control built in the car, I didn't use it so had a choice in how my license was 'issued'. I chose to have it shown as 'handicapped' but the gal told me I could certainly have it as normal' since I didn't use the controls at all during the test and passed with flying colors. I wasn't quite ready to give them up 'just in case'. Now that the weather is better, I'll be out driving more and retake the test But that danged old parallel parking is for the birds! I didn't do so hot when I was 16 and still don't like it!! J PS: Me, too! ---Original Message--- From: Robert Pall Date: 4/3/2008 10:13:05 AM To: jrushton Subject: RE: [TMIC] When do you know if it is time to quit! Jeanne: I loved your reply. I think it will be the right choice for me (sooner rather than later). Mentally I could not use hand controls...it would have made me feel disabled and embarrassed! Strange as it seems I want people to not see me as disabled and certainly not treat me as disabled...but time is taking its toll! Thx Again! Rob PS: I believe if we ever met we would like each other! From: jrushton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 9:08 AM To: tmic-list@eskimo.com; Robert Pall Subject: Re: [TMIC] When do you know if it is time to quit! Oh, Rob, to us there is no complaining when it comes to our TM. If that were the case, we might as well back out of TMIC and crawl in a hole and be alone, again!! One of the most difficult moments of this entire TM time is when I had to walk in and give my notice having to tell my 'other family' of many years that I just could not do what I did before I was stricken. Nursing was so wonderful and the people I worked with and were truly my friends plus I was a lead nurse boss and by golly, I liked that!! I was sad to be giving up all of the patients that I had gotten to know so well over the years, also. The clinic would have let me continue working but my ability and stamina were not even half of what they were before. There was just too much pain and by noon I could hardly motivate. Plus I then had an hour drive back home which was stressful even with hand controls (that I didn't use) (another story).. So, Jack and I talked it over and me, being spoiled rotten (at work and) at home finally decided I had to quit. I was able to get onto disability quite fast and have not regretted it one moment. I miss my people from the bottom of my heart but I just couldn't keep on. Jack then took early retirement and we have had the most wonderful time together. THE BEST PART NO ALARM CLOCK!! We are so busy and able to help the kids and grandkids more plus get back into volunteering in our little town, again. When the weather is halfway nice, we are outside. (I have a picture of me on the tractor if you want to see it!) Anyway, just my two cents worth. Seriously, it's a very personal decision. That's where the prayer comes in Jeanne ---Original Message--- From: Robert Pall Date: 4/3/2008 8:32:19 AM To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] When do you know if it is time to quit! I am obviously on a letter writing campaign this is due to what I perceive as a worsening of my condition ok here is my question .I have been working full time for the past 10 years after contacting TM (obviously this was after the hospital and rehab) I drive more than 2 hours a day (welcome to New York City) and for the first time I am really wondering how much longer I will be able to keep this up it just keeps getting harder. On the one hand if I stop working I will have all the time in the world to think of my condition (bad!), on the other hand work just keeps getting harder and harder both physically and mentally(bad too!). Please don't tell me to just cut down..that cannot work ..therefore what I have done mentally is say to myself that if I can just work 2 more years then I can retire only problem is that 2 years seems like a very very long time! I am going for a spinal MRI next week and Dr Kerr hooked me up with an excellent Dr. in New Jersey whom I will be seeing in a couple of weeks so I am trying to be proactive just not sure how much longer my positive attitude will be enough to get me by! Sorry about this I truly hate complaining when I know so many of you are so much worse than I am! Thanks for everything! Rob in New Jersey
Re: [TMIC] When do you know if it is time to quit!
That's a hard one, Rob. Do you have any other job options? Barbara H. _http://barbarah.wordpress.com/_ (http://barbarah.wordpress.com/) In a message dated 4/3/2008 9:32:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am obviously on a letter writing campaign…this is due to what I perceive as a worsening of my condition…ok here is my question….I have been working full time for the past 10 years after contacting TM (obviously this was after the hospital and rehab)…I drive more than 2 hours a day (welcome to New York City) and for the first time I am really wondering how much longer I will be able to keep this up…it just keeps getting harder. On the one hand if I stop working I will have all the time in the world to think of my condition (bad!), on the other hand work just keeps getting harder and harder both physically and mentally(bad too!). Please don't tell me to just cut down..that cannot work…..therefore what I have done mentally is say to myself that if I can just work 2 more years then I can retire…only problem is that 2 years seems like a very very long time! I am going for a spinal MRI next week and Dr Kerr hooked me up with an excellent Dr. in New Jersey whom I will be seeing in a couple of weeks…so I am trying to be proactive…just not sure how much longer my positive attitude will be enough to get me by! Sorry about this I truly hate complaining when I know so many of you are so much worse than I am! Thanks for everything! Rob in New Jersey **Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316)
Re: [TMIC] When do you know if it is time to quit!
Yes, I do, Galon. Nurses put miles on (not literally, but it feels like it!) and even more so in a hospital setting. Most all of the medical field is computerized with way more sitting at the computer and not nearly as much moving around working with paper and charts but there is still a lot of moving and walking. Also, there are the hospitals, etc. that have gone to the longer shifts but then you get a longer period of time that you have off. They are also the ones that pay the best. In the clinical settings, you get more regular hours and days but the pay is not as good. Drawbacks in each. BUT!! I don t regret one second of all of the time I was able to be a nurse. Life is way to short to give up your dream and you may be able to work it out just great! There are so many fields in nursing you can get into and I do so encourage you to look into it further! I don't think you would put on as many miles being a radiologist and you might really enjoy that, also! All sorts of directions you can go! The world is open to you! My motto?? JUST DO IT!!! And think of the cheering squad you have here through TMIC no matter which direction you go!!! Jeanne ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 4/3/2008 10:53:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TMIC] When do you know if it is time to quit! Jeanne, I have been strongly considering going back to school in the health care industry, but when my mother just a few weeks ago was in the hospital with a brain tumor and operation the daily walking back and forth from her rooms and the parking garage day after day for over a week had me walking very slowly for the last few days of her stay in the hospital. The distance was great and my fatigue was extreme. This has caused me to rethink this field because I watched all the different nurses and how much they have to walk in a days time. Since you are experienced in this area I would like to ask you a question.If I were to study the Radiologic field do you think the amount of walking would be drastically reduced since most of the time the patients would be coming to me instead of having to go to the patients all day over and over again? What do you think about this theory? In a message dated 4/3/2008 11:09:13 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, Rob, to us there is no complaining when it comes to our TM. If that were the case, we might as well back out of TMIC and crawl in a hole and be alone, again!! One of the most difficult moments of this entire TM time is when I had to walk in and give my notice having to tell my 'other family' of many years that I just could not do what I did before I was stricken. Nursing was so wonderful and the people I worked with and were truly my friends plus I was a lead nurse boss and by golly, I liked that!! I was sad to be giving up all of the patients that I had gotten to know so well over the years, also. The clinic would have let me continue working but my ability and stamina were not even half of what they were before. There was just too much pain and by noon I could hardly motivate. Plus I then had an hour drive back home which was stressful even with hand controls (that I didn't use) (another story).. So, Jack and I talked it over and me, being spoiled rotten (at work and) at home finally decided I had to quit. I was able to get onto disability quite fast and have not regretted it one moment. I miss my people from the bottom of my heart but I just couldn't keep on. Jack then took early retirement and we have had the most wonderful time together. THE BEST PART NO ALARM CLOCK!! We are so busy and able to help the kids and grandkids more plus get back into volunteering in our little town, again. When the weather is halfway nice, we are outside. (I have a picture of me on the tractor if you want to see it!) Anyway, just my two cents worth. Seriously, it's a very personal decision. That's where the prayer comes in Jeanne ---Original Message--- From: Robert Pall Date: 4/3/2008 8:32:19 AM To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] When do you know if it is time to quit! I am obviously on a letter writing campaign…this is due to what I perceive as a worsening of my condition…ok here is my question….I have been working full time for the past 10 years after contacting TM (obviously this was after the hospital and rehab)…I drive more than 2 hours a day (welcome to New York City) and for the first time I am really wondering how much longer I will be able to keep this up…it just keeps getting harder. On the one hand if I stop working I will have all the time in the world to think of my condition (bad!), on the other hand work just keeps getting harder and harder both physically and mentally(bad too!). Please don't tell me to just cut down..that cannot work…..therefore what I have done mentally is say to myself that if I can just work 2 more years then I can retire…only
Re: [TMIC] When do you know if it is time to quit!
It's hard, isn't it, to realize that it is real and that it is not going to go away like the flu BUT you just keep on doing the very best that you can, keep as good an attitude as possible, DON'T GIVE UP, and every time you go to PT and they tell you to do 25 whatevers, do 35! Keep a smile on your face as much as you can and pretty soon it moves to your heart and soul and that is what can get you through the rougher times. Also, remember that it is okay to have those times when all you want to do is curl up in a ball and feel sad and sometimes even mad.as long, tho, as you get back up and take off again! Life is just too danged short no matter if you're 20 or 70 so you live, laugh, and love..literally! Off of my high horse(which, at times, is a lazy, crazy old mule) Jeanne ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 4/3/2008 12:35:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TMIC] When do you know if it is time to quit! Thank you, I do know the feeling about determination. I was in total disbelief that I had been stricken. Actually I would have to say that I only now am really coming to terms with my TM illness since it hit me almost 7 months ago. In a message dated 4/3/2008 1:26:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My last day was a year last Sept. The TM hit 5/2005 and I was determined I could get right back to work as soon as I could stand and move with a cane, by golly! It actually set me back a bit because I pushed myself too hard. The best way is to go on line. If I was starting out, I would go to the college and go into the nursing department and talk to one of the advisors. They would be wonderful in getting you started. You will have your parallels that you'll need to get out of the way. You'll need to get your school transcripts and you will get credit for a lot you've already taken in the maths, sciences, and humanities. Some classes you can probably challenge and may not even need to take them. All of these things your advisor can help you with. The biggest part is walking through that college door to get started! You may go into the program thinking you want to go in a certain field and halfway through change your mind which is perfectly all right! You can't always tell until you get into your studies and clinicals and see what is actually done. I wish you ALL of the best in whichever direction you decide upon!! Please keep me up to date on your decision?? Jeanne ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 4/3/2008 12:13:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TMIC] When do you know if it is time to quit! Thanks for the reply Jeanne, how many years has it been since you had to quit your head nursing job?And what is the best way to get just how many different fields a person can specialize in , in the health care field? In a message dated 4/3/2008 12:56:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, I do, Galon. Nurses put miles on (not literally, but it feels like it!) and even more so in a hospital setting. Most all of the medical field is computerized with way more sitting at the computer and not nearly as much moving around working with paper and charts but there is still a lot of moving and walking. Also, there are the hospitals, etc. that have gone to the longer shifts but then you get a longer period of time that you have off. They are also the ones that pay the best. In the clinical settings, you get more regular hours and days but the pay is not as good. Drawbacks in each. BUT!! I don t regret one second of all of the time I was able to be a nurse. Life is way to short to give up your dream and you may be able to work it out just great! There are so many fields in nursing you can get into and I do so encourage you to look into it further! I don't think you would put on as many miles being a radiologist and you might really enjoy that, also! All sorts of directions you can go! The world is open to you! My motto?? JUST DO IT!!! And think of the cheering squad you have here through TMIC no matter which direction you go!!! Jeanne ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 4/3/2008 10:53:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TMIC] When do you know if it is time to quit! Jeanne, I have been strongly considering going back to school in the health care industry, but when my mother just a few weeks ago was in the hospital with a brain tumor and operation the daily walking back and forth from her rooms and the parking garage day after day for over a week had me walking very slowly for the last few days of her stay in the hospital. The distance was great and my fatigue was extreme. This has caused me to rethink this field because I watched all the different nurses and how much they have to walk in a days time. Since you are experienced in this area I would like to ask you a question.If I were to study
Re: [TMIC] When do you know if it is time to quit!
My last day was a year last Sept. The TM hit 5/2005 and I was determined I could get right back to work as soon as I could stand and move with a cane, by golly! It actually set me back a bit because I pushed myself too hard. The best way is to go on line. If I was starting out, I would go to the college and go into the nursing department and talk to one of the advisors. They would be wonderful in getting you started. You will have your parallels that you'll need to get out of the way. You'll need to get your school transcripts and you will get credit for a lot you've already taken in the maths, sciences, and humanities. Some classes you can probably challenge and may not even need to take them. All of these things your advisor can help you with. The biggest part is walking through that college door to get started! You may go into the program thinking you want to go in a certain field and halfway through change your mind which is perfectly all right! You can't always tell until you get into your studies and clinicals and see what is actually done. I wish you ALL of the best in whichever direction you decide upon!! Please keep me up to date on your decision?? Jeanne ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 4/3/2008 12:13:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TMIC] When do you know if it is time to quit! Thanks for the reply Jeanne, how many years has it been since you had to quit your head nursing job?And what is the best way to get just how many different fields a person can specialize in , in the health care field? In a message dated 4/3/2008 12:56:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, I do, Galon. Nurses put miles on (not literally, but it feels like it!) and even more so in a hospital setting. Most all of the medical field is computerized with way more sitting at the computer and not nearly as much moving around working with paper and charts but there is still a lot of moving and walking. Also, there are the hospitals, etc. that have gone to the longer shifts but then you get a longer period of time that you have off. They are also the ones that pay the best. In the clinical settings, you get more regular hours and days but the pay is not as good. Drawbacks in each. BUT!! I don t regret one second of all of the time I was able to be a nurse. Life is way to short to give up your dream and you may be able to work it out just great! There are so many fields in nursing you can get into and I do so encourage you to look into it further! I don't think you would put on as many miles being a radiologist and you might really enjoy that, also! All sorts of directions you can go! The world is open to you! My motto?? JUST DO IT!!! And think of the cheering squad you have here through TMIC no matter which direction you go!!! Jeanne ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 4/3/2008 10:53:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TMIC] When do you know if it is time to quit! Jeanne, I have been strongly considering going back to school in the health care industry, but when my mother just a few weeks ago was in the hospital with a brain tumor and operation the daily walking back and forth from her rooms and the parking garage day after day for over a week had me walking very slowly for the last few days of her stay in the hospital. The distance was great and my fatigue was extreme. This has caused me to rethink this field because I watched all the different nurses and how much they have to walk in a days time. Since you are experienced in this area I would like to ask you a question.If I were to study the Radiologic field do you think the amount of walking would be drastically reduced since most of the time the patients would be coming to me instead of having to go to the patients all day over and over again? What do you think about this theory? In a message dated 4/3/2008 11:09:13 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, Rob, to us there is no complaining when it comes to our TM. If that were the case, we might as well back out of TMIC and crawl in a hole and be alone, again!! One of the most difficult moments of this entire TM time is when I had to walk in and give my notice having to tell my 'other family' of many years that I just could not do what I did before I was stricken. Nursing was so wonderful and the people I worked with and were truly my friends plus I was a lead nurse boss and by golly, I liked that!! I was sad to be giving up all of the patients that I had gotten to know so well over the years, also. The clinic would have let me continue working but my ability and stamina were not even half of what they were before. There was just too much pain and by noon I could hardly motivate. Plus I then had an hour drive back home which was stressful even with hand controls (that I didn't use) (another story).. So, Jack and I talked it over and me
Re: [TMIC] When do you know if it is time to quit!
Robert, Try finding a new profession. Before I finished being a Family Practitioner in 1999, I was learning how to be a writer, then started submitting articles to magazines, then was befriended by a woman who hardly knew me- She turned out to my editor. She'd been reading my articles. I wrote well, but just needed a little bit of help. She would rewrite my articles, then send them back to me. I'd study the changes she made, then rewrite the article again. The first time we did this that document attached to our e-mail went back and forth 12 times, then OK'd, and published. I received a check for $1000. I was hooked, plus I'd found a way to continue practicing medicine the way I wanted, not what the insurance co. wanted. I found that the insurance problems were just too much, and that writing articles for women's magazines paid better, and no-one ever called me up in the middle of the night to complain about the latest sexual position, I'd written about in the issue she'd purchased at the grocery store t! hat afternoon. Maybe you can't write. How about a real Estate broker license? Or doing deed searches for law firms? Or Selling Insurance? Or if you want something even better... AMWAY!! Don't Laugh Amway is a pretty unique company. I did Amway for about 5 years while building my practice. A patient showed me the plan. I worked his plan and made lots of money. It made the difference in the quality of home we had, the location of our winter vacation. I actually recruited several other physicians. My patient (Sponsor) is still doing Amway, but lives in a small mansion outside San Diego, works 15 hrs a week and earns $300,000 a year. So, Change how you earn your money Good Luck- Look in the white pages under AMWAY F
Re: [TMIC] When do you know if it is time to quit!
If I were you, I'd ask about the possibility of SS Disability . In my opinion, there's no sense in working until what health you have is gone!! I get about $13,000 a year from SSDisability. How does one live on that amount? Are there people who live on that income? They must not go out to eat very often, probably have to turn the thermostat dfown to 55. That's Scary pH
