Re: webapp- who handles static content: Tomcat or Apache (* OFF TOPIC *)
Interesting idea to split the static content onto a different server. Does anyone know how a browser like IE handles this kind of situation, I know that with HTTP 1.1 the server will leave the connection open for further requests so that images/styles, etc should be able to go through the same connection as the original call. Will IE open a single connection to images.foo.com to retrieve all the images on a page, or will it open a new connection per image. What happens with an SSL based page, will I get annoying messages because I am getting insecure content. I assume I will have to put an SSL certificate on the image server as well. Regards. - Original Message - From: Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 2:00 AM Subject: Re: webapp- who handles static content: Tomcat or Apache Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cute... You can have some... Visit your local tobacconist. Anyhow, you'll see my reasoning when the article gets published. Few other folks having the same problems we do (very high loads + servlets) don't have the same problem as well It's actually way easier and better (in terms of what solutions it allows you to have), to move them away entirely from the web application at all... People doing GIFs HTMLs and CCS are (in our case), completely separate from JSP/Servlet writers, so I don't even need to give them acceess to the web application files... They can't overwrite or even touch any of the dynamic content... Finally the article (and together with it its full response) is up... http://www.onjava.com/ http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2002/07/17/web.html Page one, at the bottom. Pier -- [Perl] combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion of different sublanguages in one monolithic executable. It combines the power of C with the readability of PostScript. [Jamie Zawinski - DNA Lounge - San Francisco] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: webapp- who handles static content: Tomcat or Apache (* OFFTOPIC *)
Arshad Mahmood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting idea to split the static content onto a different server. Does anyone know how a browser like IE handles this kind of situation, I know that with HTTP 1.1 the server will leave the connection open for further requests so that images/styles, etc should be able to go through the same connection as the original call. Will IE open a single connection to images.foo.com to retrieve all the images on a page, or will it open a new connection per image. What happens with an SSL based page, will I get annoying messages because I am getting insecure content. I assume I will have to put an SSL certificate on the image server as well. When using SSL, or if you want to use keepalive fully, the optimal thing to do for convenience would be to do what we used to do @ VNU 5 months ago, the application is somewhere, and images/static are under a certain path (for instance in our case /v6_) . The browser can reuse the connection, and the server can use the same certificate for both... The problem we're solving by splitting the servers is splitting the load as well. As you might know, on our www server, when we separated out images the load went from an average of 3.50 daily, to 1.50, and the images server is just an very very basic and skinny HTTPd 2.0 with Worker... Far less heavy than the full web server on the main www... :) Pier -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: webapp- who handles static content: Tomcat or Apache
Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cute... You can have some... Visit your local tobacconist. Anyhow, you'll see my reasoning when the article gets published. Few other folks having the same problems we do (very high loads + servlets) don't have the same problem as well It's actually way easier and better (in terms of what solutions it allows you to have), to move them away entirely from the web application at all... People doing GIFs HTMLs and CCS are (in our case), completely separate from JSP/Servlet writers, so I don't even need to give them acceess to the web application files... They can't overwrite or even touch any of the dynamic content... Finally the article (and together with it its full response) is up... http://www.onjava.com/ http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2002/07/17/web.html Page one, at the bottom. Pier -- [Perl] combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion of different sublanguages in one monolithic executable. It combines the power of C with the readability of PostScript. [Jamie Zawinski - DNA Lounge - San Francisco] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: webapp- who handles static content: Tomcat or Apache
Bill Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 4:04 PM Subject: Re: webapp- who handles static content: Tomcat or Apache Sam Ewing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read elsewhere that that mod_webapp fowarded requests for static resources to Tomcat (instead of Apache). Is this fixed? If not, are there workarounds? It is forwarding requests, and it's definitely the last of my priorities to fix (actually I don't even consider it a bug anymore). I want some of what he is smoking ;-). Cute... You can have some... Visit your local tobacconist. Anyhow, you'll see my reasoning when the article gets published. Few other folks having the same problems we do (very high loads + servlets) don't have the same problem as well It's actually way easier and better (in terms of what solutions it allows you to have), to move them away entirely from the web application at all... People doing GIFs HTMLs and CCS are (in our case), completely separate from JSP/Servlet writers, so I don't even need to give them acceess to the web application files... They can't overwrite or even touch any of the dynamic content... Pier -- [Perl] combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion of different sublanguages in one monolithic executable. It combines the power of C with the readability of PostScript. [Jamie Zawinski - DNA Lounge - San Francisco] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
webapp- who handles static content: Tomcat or Apache
I read elsewhere that that mod_webapp fowarded requests for static resources to Tomcat (instead of Apache). Is this fixed? If not, are there workarounds? Tx, __ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: webapp- who handles static content: Tomcat or Apache
Sam Ewing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read elsewhere that that mod_webapp fowarded requests for static resources to Tomcat (instead of Apache). Is this fixed? If not, are there workarounds? It is forwarding requests, and it's definitely the last of my priorities to fix (actually I don't even consider it a bug anymore). I wrote an article for OnJava.COM about it. It should be published fairly soon (this week AFAIK). Pier -- [Perl] combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion of different sublanguages in one monolithic executable. It combines the power of C with the readability of PostScript. [Jamie Zawinski - DNA Lounge - San Francisco] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: webapp- who handles static content: Tomcat or Apache
- Original Message - From: Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 4:04 PM Subject: Re: webapp- who handles static content: Tomcat or Apache Sam Ewing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read elsewhere that that mod_webapp fowarded requests for static resources to Tomcat (instead of Apache). Is this fixed? If not, are there workarounds? It is forwarding requests, and it's definitely the last of my priorities to fix (actually I don't even consider it a bug anymore). I want some of what he is smoking ;-). I wrote an article for OnJava.COM about it. It should be published fairly soon (this week AFAIK). Pier -- [Perl] combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion of different sublanguages in one monolithic executable. It combines the power of C with the readability of PostScript. [Jamie Zawinski - DNA Lounge - San Francisco] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
