Re: Quick clarification

2001-11-13 Thread Craig R. McClanahan



On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Paul Pattison wrote:

 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 02:34:41 -0500
 From: Paul Pattison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Quick clarification

 I'm a little confused and was hoping someone could clear something up for
 me.  I've recently downloaded Tomcat 4.0.1.  I've been using it non-stop for
 the last couple weeks and I love it.

 My confusion lies in the fact that I thought that Tomcat was built on top of
 the Apache web server and that when I did the Tomcat 4.0.1 install (which
 was extremely easy), that I had also installed Apache as my web server.  But
 from reading recent posts to this mailing list, it sounds as though I am
 just running Tomcat's web server?  Is this true?  Should I do a separate
 Apache install?


Tomcat includes its own web server capabilities.  When you point your
browser at URLs on port 8080, you are talking to Tomcat's internal HTTP
connector, and bypassing Apache or any other web server.

You should only install Apache if you need something it provides that
Tomcat doesn't,  Otherwise, running on Tomcat standalone is perfectly
sufficient.

 If it helps, below is what is output when I start up Tomcat:

 Starting service Tomcat-Standalone
 Apache Tomcat/4.0.1
 Starting service Tomcat-Apache
 Apache Tomcat/4.0.1

 Thanks,

 Paul


Craig


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Re: Quick clarification

2001-11-13 Thread David Smith

TC can respond to requests on 80 if configured in server.xml to do so.  It 
has it's own java based web server that by all accounts I've seen on the list 
is very close to as fast as Apache, just not as configurable.  Unfortunately, 
if you are in a *nix environment, TC has to run as root to serve requests on 
80 and that's a nasty security problem.

--David Smith

On Tuesday 13 November 2001 02:45 am, you wrote:
 When requesting a jsp are you using a port request?

 Apache by default is set up on port 80 (the default port for all
 webservers) i.e. http://localhost
 Tomcat is set up for requests to come on port 8080
 i.e. http://localhost:8080
 I'm sure you could configure TC to take requests on port 80
 TC comes with it's own webserver so there is no Need for an apache
 install but there are many features inherent witha full apache install that
 are not present with TC's webserver

 - Original Message -
 From: Paul Pattison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:34 AM
 Subject: Quick clarification

  I'm a little confused and was hoping someone could clear something up for
  me.  I've recently downloaded Tomcat 4.0.1.  I've been using it non-stop

 for

  the last couple weeks and I love it.
 
  My confusion lies in the fact that I thought that Tomcat was built on top

 of

  the Apache web server and that when I did the Tomcat 4.0.1 install (which
  was extremely easy), that I had also installed Apache as my web server.

 But

  from reading recent posts to this mailing list, it sounds as though I am
  just running Tomcat's web server?  Is this true?  Should I do a separate
  Apache install?
 
  If it helps, below is what is output when I start up Tomcat:
 
  Starting service Tomcat-Standalone
  Apache Tomcat/4.0.1
  Starting service Tomcat-Apache
  Apache Tomcat/4.0.1
 
  Thanks,
 
  Paul
 
 
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RE: Quick clarification

2001-11-13 Thread Paul Pattison

Ok, my next question is that I want to be able to run JSPs and PHP.  Is that
something that requires a full Apache install?  I was recently reading about
a Servlet that comes with PHP 4 that could process PHP files.  It comes with
a standard PHP 4 download.  Has anybody else heard of this or better yet,
got it working?

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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:44 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Quick clarification


On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Paul Pattison wrote:

 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 02:34:41 -0500
 From: Paul Pattison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Quick clarification

 I'm a little confused and was hoping someone could clear something up for
 me.  I've recently downloaded Tomcat 4.0.1.  I've been using it non-stop
for
 the last couple weeks and I love it.

 My confusion lies in the fact that I thought that Tomcat was built on top
of
 the Apache web server and that when I did the Tomcat 4.0.1 install (which
 was extremely easy), that I had also installed Apache as my web server.
But
 from reading recent posts to this mailing list, it sounds as though I am
 just running Tomcat's web server?  Is this true?  Should I do a separate
 Apache install?


Tomcat includes its own web server capabilities.  When you point your
browser at URLs on port 8080, you are talking to Tomcat's internal HTTP
connector, and bypassing Apache or any other web server.

You should only install Apache if you need something it provides that
Tomcat doesn't,  Otherwise, running on Tomcat standalone is perfectly
sufficient.

 If it helps, below is what is output when I start up Tomcat:

 Starting service Tomcat-Standalone
 Apache Tomcat/4.0.1
 Starting service Tomcat-Apache
 Apache Tomcat/4.0.1

 Thanks,

 Paul


Craig


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RE: Quick clarification

2001-11-13 Thread Martin van den Bemt

You still have to do some work to actually have to 2 talking to eachother eg
install mod_webapp, or ajp module for apache, update the config files for
apache). It just states that tomcat is ready and waiting for apache (which
is I presume the default in the installation of tomcat). There is some
documentation regarding this in the installation and is well discussed here
on the mailinglists.

Mvgr,
Martin

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Pattison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 8:35 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Quick clarification


 I'm a little confused and was hoping someone could clear something up for
 me.  I've recently downloaded Tomcat 4.0.1.  I've been using it
 non-stop for
 the last couple weeks and I love it.

 My confusion lies in the fact that I thought that Tomcat was
 built on top of
 the Apache web server and that when I did the Tomcat 4.0.1 install (which
 was extremely easy), that I had also installed Apache as my web
 server.  But
 from reading recent posts to this mailing list, it sounds as though I am
 just running Tomcat's web server?  Is this true?  Should I do a separate
 Apache install?

 If it helps, below is what is output when I start up Tomcat:

 Starting service Tomcat-Standalone
 Apache Tomcat/4.0.1
 Starting service Tomcat-Apache
 Apache Tomcat/4.0.1

 Thanks,

 Paul


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Quick clarification

2001-11-12 Thread Paul Pattison

I'm a little confused and was hoping someone could clear something up for
me.  I've recently downloaded Tomcat 4.0.1.  I've been using it non-stop for
the last couple weeks and I love it.

My confusion lies in the fact that I thought that Tomcat was built on top of
the Apache web server and that when I did the Tomcat 4.0.1 install (which
was extremely easy), that I had also installed Apache as my web server.  But
from reading recent posts to this mailing list, it sounds as though I am
just running Tomcat's web server?  Is this true?  Should I do a separate
Apache install?

If it helps, below is what is output when I start up Tomcat:

Starting service Tomcat-Standalone
Apache Tomcat/4.0.1
Starting service Tomcat-Apache
Apache Tomcat/4.0.1

Thanks,

Paul


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