Re: STILL Need Help w. Tomcat Install

2002-08-22 Thread jeff . guttadauro


Oh, come on, the this is Steve Burris bit makes me giggle every time...  ;)



   

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and please stop with the this is Steve Burris in
your email.  We know who you are based on the from header in the
email.  You don't need to tell us again.

later,

Jake



At 12:50 PM 8/21/2002 -0700, you wrote:
  This is Steve Burrus again, and I am damned sorry to have to post my
 plea for
help/assistance again, but everyday when I first access my email there are
literally 100's of postings from other members of the Tomcat newsgroup, and
my
original post--and any response--is VERY DIFFICULT to locate, so here it
is again:
   How exactly does one go about installing the Tomcat 4.0.* correctly???
 I have
racked my brain in trying to figure out how to do this, but I simply
cannot do
it myself, I am afraid to say! Thanx in advance to anyone who can help me!

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Re: STILL Need Help w. Tomcat Install

2002-08-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

what os?

On Wed, 2002-08-21 at 15:50, STEVE R BURRUS wrote:
  This is Steve Burrus again, and I am damned sorry to have to post my plea for
 help/assistance again, but everyday when I first access my email there are
 literally 100's of postings from other members of the Tomcat newsgroup, and my
 original post--and any response--is VERY DIFFICULT to locate, so here it is again:
   How exactly does one go about installing the Tomcat 4.0.* correctly??? I have
 racked my brain in trying to figure out how to do this, but I simply cannot do
 it myself, I am afraid to say! Thanx in advance to anyone who can help me! 
 
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RE: STILL Need Help w. Tomcat Install

2002-08-21 Thread Sexton, George

This is nothing personal. I really would like to see you get the help you
need. However, you didn't even tell anyone what operating system you are
using. I would strongly recommend you read this FAQ about how to seek help
on lists.

http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

George Sexton
MH Software, Inc.
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-Original Message-
From: STEVE R BURRUS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 21 August, 2002 1:50 PM
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Subject: STILL Need Help w. Tomcat Install


 This is Steve Burrus again, and I am damned sorry to have to post my plea
for
help/assistance again, but everyday when I first access my email there are
literally 100's of postings from other members of the Tomcat newsgroup, and
my
original post--and any response--is VERY DIFFICULT to locate, so here it is
again:
  How exactly does one go about installing the Tomcat 4.0.* correctly??? I
have
racked my brain in trying to figure out how to do this, but I simply
cannot do
it myself, I am afraid to say! Thanx in advance to anyone who can help me!

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Re: STILL Need Help w. Tomcat Install

2002-08-21 Thread Mona Wong-Barnum

Hi Steve:

   How exactly does one go about installing the Tomcat 4.0.* correctly???

What problem are you having?  What platform?

I installed pre-compiled tomcat 4.0.4 on my Solaris box and it worked 
fine.

Cheers,

Mona

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RE: STILL Need Help w. Tomcat Install

2002-08-21 Thread Turner, John


As far as I know, Steve is using Windows XP.

John Turner
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From: Sexton, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 4:03 PM
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Subject: RE: STILL Need Help w. Tomcat Install


This is nothing personal. I really would like to see you get the help you
need. However, you didn't even tell anyone what operating system you are
using. I would strongly recommend you read this FAQ about how to seek help
on lists.

http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

George Sexton
MH Software, Inc.
Voice: 303 438 9585
http://www.mhsoftware.com


-Original Message-
From: STEVE R BURRUS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 21 August, 2002 1:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: STILL Need Help w. Tomcat Install


 This is Steve Burrus again, and I am damned sorry to have to post my plea
for
help/assistance again, but everyday when I first access my email there are
literally 100's of postings from other members of the Tomcat newsgroup, and
my
original post--and any response--is VERY DIFFICULT to locate, so here it is
again:
  How exactly does one go about installing the Tomcat 4.0.* correctly??? I
have
racked my brain in trying to figure out how to do this, but I simply
cannot do
it myself, I am afraid to say! Thanx in advance to anyone who can help me!

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Re: STILL Need Help w. Tomcat Install

2002-08-21 Thread micael



If you will try again and document exactly what you do, I will be happy to 
chime in with where I think you ought to change things.  You must be 
missing something fundamental, because the documentation on this is pretty 
good.

Micael



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How exactly does one go about installing the Tomcat 4.0.* correctly??? I have
racked my brain in trying to figure out how to do this, but I simply 
cannot do
it myself, I am afraid to say! Thanx in advance to anyone who can help me!



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Re: STILL Need Help w. Tomcat Install

2002-08-21 Thread Will Hartung

From: STEVE R BURRUS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 12:50 PM


 This is Steve Burrus again, and I am damned sorry to have to post my plea
for
 help/assistance again, but everyday when I first access my email there are
 literally 100's of postings from other members of the Tomcat newsgroup,
and my
 original post--and any response--is VERY DIFFICULT to locate, so here it
is again:
   How exactly does one go about installing the Tomcat 4.0.* correctly??? I
have
 racked my brain in trying to figure out how to do this, but I simply
cannot do
 it myself, I am afraid to say! Thanx in advance to anyone who can help me!

Speaking of list volume...

Since 99% of the people here simply Reply to the e-mail, 99% of the
responses to your pleas should have the SAME SUBJECT as you used
originally (this e-mail is a perfect example).

If your e-mail client can not filter, sort, or whatever by e-mail subject,
then you simply need to get a better client. Clearly your current client is
not adequate to the tasks for which you wish to use it (for example,
managing a high volume mailing list).

As far as your request, you give NO details as to what is wrong, or how
you think your installation is not correct. No details whatsoever.

You don't say what things you've tried, what documents you refered to for
guidance in those attempts, and how they are not working.

The basic, binary install works just peachy out of the box. Extract it to
someplace appropriate, cd $WHERE_YOU_EXTRACTED_IT/bin, type 'startup.sh' or
'startup.bat', and boom, it works. Your JAVA_HOME environment variable must
be set.

It's that simple.

Finally, the point of a mailing list is not simply a forum to scream and
shout for help, its a community for sharing knowledge. Just like a USENET
newsgroup, the value in the mailing list is seeing how the problems that
people have are worked out ON the mailing list, thus when someone else has a
problem, the archives will hopefully have the answers.

There are few things more aggravating that seeing nothing but pleas but no
answers in a mailing list. That makes it essentially worthless, both for the
current readers and for future readers.

So, never expect private mail, particularly early on, from a public forum.
It's not fair to anyone.

But, why am I saying all of this, when you won't read it anyway.

Regards,

Will Hartung
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Re: STILL Need Help w. Tomcat Install

2002-08-21 Thread Jacob Kjome

Steve,

People have tried to help you. Case in point, you emailed me directly 
asking me the following

Now, would you please list, very methodically, all of the various steps 
involved in installing Tomcat?! Incidentally, I am trying/attempting to 
install version 4.0.4 without too damned many problems that I might encounter.

I responded with the following

First I'd have to know what OS you are installing on.  I won't be able to 
give out any Unix specific install info since I work on Windows.  I also 
need to know what difficulties you are having with your current 
install.  I'd love to help you, but I'm not going to run through every last 
detail of an install because that is what the existing docs and the 
archives of this list are for.  Once you give me some base info to work 
from, we can try to figure out the issue you are having.


I am still awaiting a response letting me know what you are having trouble 
with, specifically.  If you aren't going to bother writing back information 
that I need to help you out, I'm not going to go out of my way to help 
you.  I offered my help and you ignored the offer.  The only reason I can 
see for this behavior is that you want the solution spoon-fed to you so 
others do the work for you and you just benefit from the advice without 
having to do much of any work.  Please don't flame back at me for this 
statement.  If you believe the statement is a mis-characterisation of your 
intent, then prove me wrong by actually providing some evidence that you, 
in fact, *have* read the available documentation.  Until you do this, you 
have nothing to say to anyone else and no one else has *any* obligation to 
answer your pleas for help.

Note:  I am still willing to help you out, but please take the above into 
account before asking for more help in the future.  Make sure you define 
what you have done so far and what exactly you are having difficulty 
with.  No one here will write a book for you just in case one of those 
steps might just solve your issue.  Narrow your scope and you might get 
some better responsesand please stop with the this is Steve Burris in 
your email.  We know who you are based on the from header in the 
email.  You don't need to tell us again.

later,

Jake



At 12:50 PM 8/21/2002 -0700, you wrote:
  This is Steve Burrus again, and I am damned sorry to have to post my 
 plea for
help/assistance again, but everyday when I first access my email there are
literally 100's of postings from other members of the Tomcat newsgroup, and my
original post--and any response--is VERY DIFFICULT to locate, so here it 
is again:
   How exactly does one go about installing the Tomcat 4.0.* correctly??? 
 I have
racked my brain in trying to figure out how to do this, but I simply 
cannot do
it myself, I am afraid to say! Thanx in advance to anyone who can help me!

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Re: STILL Need Help w. Tomcat Install

2002-08-21 Thread micael

I made the same offer, with no response.

At 06:59 PM 8/21/2002 -0500, you wrote:
Steve,

People have tried to help you. Case in point, you emailed me directly 
asking me the following

Now, would you please list, very methodically, all of the various steps 
involved in installing Tomcat?! Incidentally, I am trying/attempting to 
install version 4.0.4 without too damned many problems that I might encounter.

I responded with the following

First I'd have to know what OS you are installing on.  I won't be able to 
give out any Unix specific install info since I work on Windows.  I also 
need to know what difficulties you are having with your current 
install.  I'd love to help you, but I'm not going to run through every 
last detail of an install because that is what the existing docs and the 
archives of this list are for.  Once you give me some base info to work 
from, we can try to figure out the issue you are having.


I am still awaiting a response letting me know what you are having trouble 
with, specifically.  If you aren't going to bother writing back 
information that I need to help you out, I'm not going to go out of my way 
to help you.  I offered my help and you ignored the offer.  The only 
reason I can see for this behavior is that you want the solution spoon-fed 
to you so others do the work for you and you just benefit from the advice 
without having to do much of any work.  Please don't flame back at me for 
this statement.  If you believe the statement is a mis-characterisation of 
your intent, then prove me wrong by actually providing some evidence that 
you, in fact, *have* read the available documentation.  Until you do this, 
you have nothing to say to anyone else and no one else has *any* 
obligation to answer your pleas for help.

Note:  I am still willing to help you out, but please take the above into 
account before asking for more help in the future.  Make sure you define 
what you have done so far and what exactly you are having difficulty 
with.  No one here will write a book for you just in case one of those 
steps might just solve your issue.  Narrow your scope and you might get 
some better responsesand please stop with the this is Steve Burris 
in your email.  We know who you are based on the from header in the 
email.  You don't need to tell us again.

later,

Jake



At 12:50 PM 8/21/2002 -0700, you wrote:
  This is Steve Burrus again, and I am damned sorry to have to post my 
 plea for
help/assistance again, but everyday when I first access my email there are
literally 100's of postings from other members of the Tomcat newsgroup, 
and my
original post--and any response--is VERY DIFFICULT to locate, so here it 
is again:
   How exactly does one go about installing the Tomcat 4.0.* correctly??? 
 I have
racked my brain in trying to figure out how to do this, but I simply 
cannot do
it myself, I am afraid to say! Thanx in advance to anyone who can help me!

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